Episode 39: David Gilmour - On an Island

In this episode, we dive into what we've been spinning lately, including a mix of music and audiobooks that have caught our attention. Then, we take a deep dive into David Gilmour's 2006 solo masterpiece, On an Island. From the album's dreamy soundscapes to its reflective themes, we discuss why this release stands out in his legendary career. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on music, storytelling, and sonic journeys!

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Podcast recording - 2024/12/16 18:53 PST - Transcript

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Mandatory Music, Sebastian Kwapich

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Mandatory Music: Good evening and…

Mandatory Music: welcome back to the program. We are mandatory music. I'm Mike and I'm here always with my PA patient zero he's still a mess and…

Sebastian Kwapich: with patient zero.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's been four weeks.

Mandatory Music: whatever he's got whooping cough or whatever it is this poor man has been sick for going on four weeks. He's doing his best to hold it together.

Mandatory Music: His sinus cavities are full and flooded and I'm assuming his lungs are too with nothing good.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's something in there,…

Sebastian Kwapich: that's for sure.

Mandatory Music: My friend, how are you this fine evening?

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm a lot better than I was last week, Mike. Thanks for asking. my energy levels back.

Mandatory Music: You do sound better than last week. I know the cough. Good.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, it's just the only hindrance is this coughing fit that comes on every so often.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: But, they're less frequent now so I can actually exist and function properly in life.

Mandatory Music: Fabulous. Yeah. Right.

Sebastian Kwapich: Just don't make me laugh cuz I start coughing when I laugh.

Mandatory Music: I will do my best not to be funny. I'm pretty good at not being funny, so I will.

Sebastian Kwapich: I always try to make a joke out of things and…

Mandatory Music: Right. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: then laugh at my own jokes. So, it's probably on me more than anything. there I go again.

Mandatory Music: There you go again. but I'm gonna ask you a question because I didn't we Okay.

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Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: What have you been listening to this week?

Sebastian Kwapich: outside from David Gilmore.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, funny you mentioned that. I put on Chris Cornell's Scream album.

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I've never heard it. So, this morning was the first time I listened to it and…

Mandatory Music: Mhm. That's like the hip-hopy one.

Sebastian Kwapich: it was nothing what I expected it to be. kind of it's not rock.

Mandatory Music: No. Kind of.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's like they do a lot of synth stuff and it's interesting. There's of several songs that I put on playlist but what I think Chris like it's not alternative. yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Okay. No,…

Mandatory Music: I Timberland.

Sebastian Kwapich: Timberland was one of the producers of it,…

Mandatory Music: Okay. I was going to say TI,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: but it's Timberland. Okay. Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: so it was f I really enjoyed it. I'm like, this is a different side of Chris Cornell that I've never listened to before.

Mandatory Music: Interesting. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, I dove into that this morning before diving into Mr. David Gilmore,…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yes,…

Sebastian Kwapich: which is what we're going to talk about today.

Mandatory Music: we are.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, that's something that's genre wise, they say it's dance pop, and electroop.

Mandatory Music: Interesting. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: And it's coming from Chris Cornell, so it's a bit of a different Chris Cornell.

Mandatory Music: I'll have to give it a chance and…

Sebastian Kwapich: So, it's not bad. I'm…

Mandatory Music: give it a listen.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm not going to say every song is great, but there's nuggets in there that I really enjoyed.

Mandatory Music: No, but it's pretty cool for a guy with a pedigree of Chris's to step out of the alternative hard rock,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: grungy, whatever you want to call him, out of that scene and go, knowing that it's probably not going to be accepted by your fan base and just saying,…

Sebastian Kwapich: And Justin Timberlake is a writer of one of the songs on the album.

Mandatory Music: I need to express myself artistically this way. And he did. Nice. Can't really got to give the guy credit. really interest.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, he wrote it. there one called Take Me Alive and…

Mandatory Music: 

Sebastian Kwapich: he does the backing vocals for that as well.

Mandatory Music: I bet you that was a pretty cool backing vocal,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: though. That's awesome.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's pretty good. They're good songs. Scream is the good Scream and Sweet Revenge are like the two I like from that.

Mandatory Music: Okay. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So I mean if you give it a listen, go for it. If not, then maybe at some point you will. So, but yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I think maybe I'll add it to a running playlist or…

Sebastian Kwapich: it's interesting.

Mandatory Music: something and just put it on.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's not bad,…

Mandatory Music: Okay. No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: what about you? Have you been listening to any outside? I mean, you wouldn't have asked me if there's something you didn't want to talk about.

Mandatory Music: actually out of the ordinary, no. it's just like I was telling you before, I was digging back into some Led Zeppelin. Listen to what I listen to three and Physical Graffiti a couple times. nothing earthshattering, nothing really new.

Mandatory Music: there's a new Glory Hammer song out and I don't like it. It's not good. I like the one album and I think So that's fine. Mhm.

Sebastian Kwapich: That's fair.

Sebastian Kwapich: I did recently find something out which I had no idea and I told somebody else about it and they had no idea. But apparently if you have Spotify Premium, I think I told you this already, but I'll just tell this for the listeners.

Mandatory Music: That's right.

Sebastian Kwapich: You actually have audiobooks with Spotify. And I didn't know this…

Mandatory Music: Guest. …

Sebastian Kwapich: until a couple weeks ago. So I downloaded The Hobbit and…

Mandatory Music: interesting. …

Sebastian Kwapich: so I was listening to Andy Circus read The Hobbit,…

Mandatory Music: That must have been cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: which is pretty cool, So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: so you get 15 hours of audio book stuff a month with your, premium account, which basically works out to a novel a month,…

Mandatory Music: that's all right. Sure. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: so to speak, because most novels are within 8 to 10 hours.

Mandatory Music: Most. Yeah. Unless you get to the George R. Martin, Stephen King style…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: where I believe it's 49 hours.

Mandatory Music: It's and…

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: God.

Mandatory Music: I think I and…

Sebastian Kwapich: That's so egregious, Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: I think the Game of Thrones books are in the 40s as well. I could tell you I have them.

Sebastian Kwapich: cuz I think The Hobbit clocks in just under 10 hours,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: I believe, in audio time.

Mandatory Music: And that's a 300page book or…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: 300 and change or whatever it is. I'm going to quickly look at my library. So, I got Game of Thrones in here somewhere.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: So, it's fascinating. So, it's something that I don't think was ever really announced and…

Mandatory Music: No. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Spotify, I think of last year, got into the audiobook space or at some point this year they did and…

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: it just kind of flew under the radar. So, for our listeners, anyone that's interested in audiobooks and has a Spotify account, you have audiobooks. You can go into the audiobook format and…

Mandatory Music: Absolutely. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: find audiobooks included in your premium membership if you have one. So yeah.

Mandatory Music: That's cool because I recently found out to Amazon Music.

Mandatory Music: Amazon owns Audible, so it's kind of But included in the music membership now is you get your Audible membership and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Wait, is that separate from your Prime membership?

Mandatory Music: actually works out to be cheaper. I believe it is.

Sebastian Kwapich: Do you have okay. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. but you get a free book of any length a month, which is kind of cool, but they already own it, so really it's Amazon. It's just here's a few pennies here,…

Mandatory Music: few billions there. it's really no big deal. but Game of Thrones, I have two of them. I got books three four and five. Feast for Crows is 33 hours and the Dance with Dragons, it's 48 hours.

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Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: I mean,…

Mandatory Music: So, yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: they're about a thousand page books. This makes sense.

Mandatory Music: Same with I don't know, I think it's in the low 50s. it's long. And if you've read The Stand and if anyone out there has read The Stand, it's …

Sebastian Kwapich: I can't imagine being hired on to do the audio for that.

Mandatory Music: Right.

Sebastian Kwapich: You're like, " my goodness.

Mandatory Music: Yeah cuz I don't know how much I've always been fascinated by audiobook readers because if the good ones are so good and they don't have to make every voice sort of singular but just to be able to read something that is 1400 pages and how long that would a lot of studio time right…

Sebastian Kwapich: It's a lot of studio time you're in there because you're not just doing it on a first pass.

Mandatory Music: if you even doing no yeah okay We need another take of that line.

Sebastian Kwapich: You gota should I screw that up? I got to go back and reread that. Right. So,…

Mandatory Music: Another take of that line.

Sebastian Kwapich: yeah. …

Mandatory Music: Another take of this one. blah blah. You'd be in there forever.

Sebastian Kwapich: the nice thing about listening to Andy Circus for example is he does voices for each of them, So he does Gandalf,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Right.

Sebastian Kwapich: he does all these different voices and…

Mandatory Music: Cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: and the amount of how he retains that voice for all these different characters is just mindboggling…

Sebastian Kwapich: because there's so many different characters that he did that He does Bilbo, he does the dwarves, he does Gandalf, he did the Trolls. So it takes a lot to be able to nail that voice every time. but yeah, he's a good one to have to read those books.

Mandatory Music: Yep. …

Mandatory Music: and I really like Andy Circus is amazing. He's a super talent. there's a couple of narrators that if I see they have done something I'm like oo I don't care what it is like there's Will Patton the actor he does a lot of the newer Stephen King his voice is lends itself wonderfully and RC Bray if you've never listened to anything he's ever done man just check him out listen to commune an amazing book series yeah I

Sebastian Kwapich: audiobooks. Have you been in a situation…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: where you're and I'm sure you have, but you start listening to the book and the voice is just so bad you're like, " I can't listen to this.

Mandatory Music: I'll give you a good example.

Sebastian Kwapich: This is taking me out. I'd rather just read the book at this point." Oh boy.

Mandatory Music: So the Dark Tower series, the first four books were done by I'm going to forget somebody,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Somebody …

Mandatory Music: but then it switched because he got into a horrible motorcycle accident and had brain damage and he couldn't do it. So then it was onto some …

Sebastian Kwapich: It took away from my head.

Mandatory Music: That's who it was. It was Frank Mueller. And then it moved on to George Guidel. He's renowned book reader, but he was a lot older when he did this.

Mandatory Music: And it's just the Frank Mueller's voice was so clear and concise and George's was older and not that it was so different and I was just like it did.

Mandatory Music: So books five, six and seven it sort of took me a back. I was like wow. I'm like because you get the idea of…

Sebastian Kwapich: The whole time you're just wishing the original guy was reading it to you at that point,…

Sebastian Kwapich: right? Yeah.

Mandatory Music: who the character of voice is because he was like Andy Circus. he did Roland's voice away, he did Eddie's voice away, he did Susanna's voice away, and even Jake Chambers, he did all their own separate things…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: where Will Patton doesn't really do that. it's Will Patton with a tinge, but this guy did everything. And then the other guy's voice is like, "No, I understand he had to come in.

Mandatory Music: It's weird,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. I guess I'm kind of in that camp …

Mandatory Music: but it's like they get to Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: if you're going to do voices, you have to just commit to doing the voices. And if you're going to halfass it, just don't do the voices.

Mandatory Music: No, just straight up read it.

Sebastian Kwapich: Just don't at all. Do it. Straight up read it. I mean you can vary it a little bit so that it's a different person reading…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. It's like Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: but you have to commit to the bit basically. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: more or less. I know Steven Weber, the actor, he was on Wings and other stuff. He did it and his voices don't stray until you have someone that's Irish or a different sort of nationality, then he'll dig in. But everybody else's from George to not George, whatever, all the kids. And then Beverly, her voice was feminine tinged a little bit, but it wasn't like he wasn't overtly trying to sound feminine.

Mandatory Music: He was just doing his voice with just a little hint and the sensibility was a bit different sometimes.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, do they ever get more than one person doing a book?

Sebastian Kwapich: There's multiple people that do different voices for Okay.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I prefer not to listen to those…

Mandatory Music: because I just did Stephen King last batch of short stories and he's fine he narrates his own book sometimes and he's fine but then Will Patton did all the other ones and was like now Stephen King great you just know it's not going to have that same sort of absolutely can't and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay.

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Sebastian Kwapich: I mean, it's his book. He can do it, I guess. But yeah.

Mandatory Music: it's just but it doesn't have that same flare

Mandatory Music: to it,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. We need Morgan Freeman doing Audible books.

Mandatory Music: right. my god,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I would listen to Morgan Freeman all day long.

Mandatory Music: that'd be so good. You could just narrate an encyclopedia and it would be fine. It would or…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Just hit it at me.

Mandatory Music: the dictionary, whatever you like, a thesaurus, you could throw those big words that Exactly. But anyways, that's Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay. Wow.

Mandatory Music: Tonight we are I'm forcing I force you to listen to a record that is near and…

Sebastian Kwapich: He didn't force me,…

Mandatory Music: dear to I kind of not forced…

Sebastian Kwapich: but Actually,…

Mandatory Music: but I asked you to I kind of didn't and…

Sebastian Kwapich: she didn't really give me much of a choice. this is what we're doing. I'm like, okay. Yes.

Mandatory Music: I might do the same thing for next week too but on an island by David Gilmore was released in 2006 and it's an album for me I love

Mandatory Music: I like this way more than Luck and Strange. I like it. It's better than The Division Bell. It's whatever I love it and there's some sentimental songs for some sentimental reasons.

Mandatory Music: But we'll get into all that. So, you put it on today and track for the first time ever and…

Sebastian Kwapich: For the first time this morning.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. It's definitely a mood.

Mandatory Music: I asked you the question, did you pass out from either boredom or you were so relaxed you were just lean back in your chair and I'm like, I'm having a nap and I'll see you in 45 minutes. Mhm. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: The whole album is a specific mood, And so if I just tell our listeners,…

Sebastian Kwapich: imagine a guy just sitting on an island in the middle of nowhere reflecting that kind of gives you the whole mood of…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, cuz I was going to ask you is this the greatest album title for…

Sebastian Kwapich: what this album's going to be about, And it's very internalized and…

Mandatory Music: what the songs are? it's so literal. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: very personal for sure, and I was actually thinking a lot about this and what Pink Floyd and David Gilmore specifically does so well is that they kind of give you a nugget of a melody and for each of the songs they kind of just stay in that pocket of that melody, it's only a couple notes and it just kind of waves in and out, but they always kind of just circle around this idea in a song, right? It's not like and…

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: I like let's just say Spit Out the Bone for Metallica who goes through a hundred different changes in the song and it just keeps morphing and morphing and morphing. Pink Floyd doesn't do that. David Gilmore doesn't do that.

Mandatory Music: No. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: They just hit you over the head with this mood theme. And man, I don't think that there's a single track I've ever heard of David Gilmore that's in the triple digits for a beat time. everything is so soft and somber and slow. …

Mandatory Music: Even on an island like this,…

Sebastian Kwapich: .

Mandatory Music: the title track, it's just so you get the instrumental track like they sort of,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Division Bell had and I think Luck and Strange also the opening track is an instrumental as well. But it sort of just sets the mood.

Mandatory Music: Just like you're looking at the stars and then you see something beautiful, fireworks are going off in your head and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Mandatory Music: that right like Mhm.

Sebastian Kwapich: I know after exploring David Gilmore a lot over the last couple months, he definitely likes to sit in that pocket of a drone note, whether it's de E or whatever, but he really echoes that drone. And then what he will do is he'll subtly throw in pockets or little tingles of dissonance just to kind of it's irritates the wrong word,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: but to give it a bit of an edge where you're like, "Whoa, what was that?" Right? To kind of give it a little bit of distress in the song.

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I don't mean distress at all in a bad way. Because when you have distress in a piece of music, the resolution is much more appealing when you get there. you can't just have a whole song of resolving the musical line.

Sebastian Kwapich: Sometimes you need to throw a little dissonance and irritation in there for that resolution to hit that much more.

Mandatory Music: It just does it.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, he does that a lot,…

Mandatory Music: Interesting. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: you can tell that in the first track actually because there's these violin jingles that kind of come in real sense of dissonance on purpose, but they just fade in for a little bit.

Sebastian Kwapich: But yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Yep. No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: it's an interesting album for sure. It's, if you want something fastpaced and this is not an album I would take to the gym to work out and I'll tell you that much right now.

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Mandatory Music: no. This is something like I used to put it on before I go to bed,…

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah.

Mandatory Music: I'd have headphones in trying to get I'm not saying it's boring.

Mandatory Music: It's something that's so incredibly relaxing.

Mandatory Music: Like I can just Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's 3:00 in the morning.

Sebastian Kwapich: I need to get to bed and I can't sleep. I got to do something.

Mandatory Music: And Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: Put this island this is going to relax, make me feel peace. I'm going to calm I'm going to feel calm after this.

Mandatory Music: Yep. Absolutely.

Sebastian Kwapich: Calm is a good way to describe this album. It's calming,…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: There's nothing aggressive about it,…

Mandatory Music: Like no.

Sebastian Kwapich: right? …

Mandatory Music: And even there's one track that is quote unquote fast. take a breath. And even it's fast in context on an island,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I mean,…

Mandatory Music: but it's no faster than shine on you crazy diamond. it's Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's fast if you factor in the songs that are around it and the track listing, but when you compare it to Mega Death or…

Mandatory Music: And no,…

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: something, it's not fast at all. Yeah, dude.

Mandatory Music: you're not getting 160 BPMs. You're getting, 85 if you're interesting tidbit for the title track.

Mandatory Music: David Crosby and Graham Nash of Crosby Sills and Nash did the harmonies. That's kind of cool. I didn't know it until I just read it now because apparently I own the CD and somewhere, but I haven't looked at the liner notes in 18 years cuz Yes,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I really like the opening track. …

Mandatory Music: It's the best song on the album. it Let's be honest,…

Sebastian Kwapich: what it kind of reminds me of?

Mandatory Music: right? Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: It reminds me of music for a Christopher Nolan movie, like something from Tenant or, it's got that Christopher Nolan vibe, I guess, a little bit,…

Mandatory Music: Would it be fair to say it's like an English vibe?

Sebastian Kwapich: .

Mandatory Music: Like a Right.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, that's fair because they're both English,…

Mandatory Music: That's Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: right? Yeah.

Mandatory Music: like that calming it's tea time that kind of vibe like it's just or…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: whatever you choose to do in your relaxing time. it's that time.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Mandatory Music: But I think this album didn't get the greatest reviews. I've read,…

Sebastian Kwapich: three, three and…

Mandatory Music: …

Sebastian Kwapich: four stars out of five.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Where am I? The Guardian. And it's Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: The Metacritic rating was 67 out of 100. So that's a passing grade.

Mandatory Music: That's barely fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, right? That's…

Sebastian Kwapich: So this was his next album after the division bell,…

Mandatory Music: but it had been so I don't think he released anything in between the division bell which was Pink Floyd's last album in 1994 until this in 2006. Yeah. So 12 years on a lot had changed.

Sebastian Kwapich: Interesting.

Mandatory Music: 2006. This was the last record to feature Pink Floyd keyboard player Richard Wright which him and Gilmore were very very close friends for all the years and…

Mandatory Music: they were like songwriting collaborators and he played at all David Solo shows. so I think Wright passed away in 2008. Cancer not cancer yeah and I can't pronounce his name and I'm not even going to try. I don't know if you want to look up the string composer for all these songs as a Polish fellow, but I'm not even gonna try to do Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: No. …

Sebastian Kwapich: what? let me look it up.

Mandatory Music: You would have a much better time with this because you could probably pronounce it, but I like Priz's last name. I can do that. But the first name is whoa. It's a lot of letters that don't seem to fit together to me.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. There it is. I don't know.

Mandatory Music: What is that? Come on, You're Polish. You have got to give it a try.

Sebastian Kwapich: I wouldn't even know…

Mandatory Music: You could put that right.

Sebastian Kwapich: how to freaking pronounce that.

Mandatory Music: It's ZB I G N I E W. I don't know how that And pardon my ignorance.

Sebastian Kwapich: As my parents are listening to this podcast now,…

Mandatory Music: And I'm so sorry as well,…

Sebastian Kwapich: they're going to be shocked with me that I can't pronounce it.

Mandatory Music: Mom and Dad, because I don't want to be a disappointment.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. totally.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, he's a film composer,…

Sebastian Kwapich: so that makes sense because there's a lot of filmy soundtrack vibes on some of the songs in it.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. …

Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: it reminds me I don't know if you ever listened to the Lethal Weapon 2 soundtrack, but I believe it No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: not in recent memory. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: but it's got air clap and I think George Harrison's on Stuff like that. And it's a lot like this. it's just chill and…

Sebastian Kwapich: parts of it. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: there's lots of horns and it's a film soundtrack and that's what this could have been.

Mandatory Music: You're absolutely now that the wheels are turning in my head. You say it could have been in a Christopher Nolan movie it totally could have been in a Christopher parts of it. Absolutely. it's so when I say like I said there's some sentimental songs I don't want to get sappy on you but there the one song smile…

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Sebastian Kwapich: It resonates at the core with you.

Mandatory Music: which reminded me a lot of when my dad was sick and trying just to get him to smile blah blah blah blah. So to me that song is incredibly sad but it does it and I was out doing some raking some leaves before it snowed. Thank goodness I got that done yesterday. I leave it till the last second as always. yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: Got a boy. Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: So I was like I'm out here by myself. I'll put the AirPods in and I haven't listened to on Island in a while.

Mandatory Music: So I did and then just soon a smile came on instantly and it's not sad anymore but it's just thinking about my dad made me smile. So it sort of flipped in it's gone full circle. It made me sad at first now it's like remember all those sort of the good times. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: that and on an island I believe are the two singles that were released from this album according to Wikipedia page. which is Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: But it's interesting to see all these different reviews even from one to eight years later. the first thing says although Gilmore had never been known for favoring uptempo material. No kidding.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's always minor and…

Mandatory Music: No. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: moody usually.

Mandatory Music: Look at Comfortably Numb.

Sebastian Kwapich: You're right…

Mandatory Music: It's like Comfortably Numb would fit on this record, right? It is.

Sebastian Kwapich: because smile is very upbeat. Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: I took it at the time, as something sad, but Smile because I believe It's in a major key. yes,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So, I was just reading about this, but Paulie Samson is David Gilmore's wife wife.

Mandatory Music: the writer. Yes. All of his lyrics. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: Does she largely write most of his lyrics? cuz Yeah, because she's basically written the only track on this album…

Sebastian Kwapich: where he wrote the lyrics, I believe, according to Wikipedia is the last one where we start and then Samson wrote everything else and then they wrote On an Island and wrote This Heaven, but everything else was Paulie Samson writing the lyrics.

Mandatory Music: Interesting. Yep.

Mandatory Music: Yep. She So,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So, that's a great partnership, I assume she's a writer,…

Mandatory Music: I've never read any of her work, but they've been Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: right? And go

Mandatory Music: I think she's a novelist but she writes some amazing lyrics. I'm sure he just tells her this is what the song could be about and yeah, I'll see you in a couple hours and you'll have that done, but it says here Gilmore resumed his solo recording activity in 2001 collecting song fragments in his private studio on board the houseboat Atoria. There you go. yeah, which he says he purchased in 1986 and used for the division bell and a momentary lapse of reason to write on.

Mandatory Music: And so I guess being on the boat, I don't know. That's So the gently drifting feeling of sort of just being you record. He's like, I can't stand being in place of the windows. So you can write songs up,…

Mandatory Music: you're on the ocean. I'm sure it was incredibly fruitful, material because I think there might be a couple of riffs on here that are on Luck and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Sebastian Kwapich: he spent a lot of time pontificating and…

Mandatory Music: Strength. yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: reflecting on his life probably before he wrote this because it's been some time since you released music,…

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: especially I mean what it's 12 years between this and The Division Bell, I guess. So, that's quite some time.

Mandatory Music: there's a lot of time and…

Mandatory Music: even before division belt the other momentary lapse was seven years before that so there his musical output was pretty and now he's on it every nine years I think right out of that lock was 2015 and that was nine years after on an island and I won't make you go through rattle that lock I'm not going to do it to you it's not my favorite I made him laugh he's coughing again so after putting the building blocks of the record together, he reached out to his friend and neighbor Roxy Music guitarist Phil Manzanera for assistance with co-production. That's kind of a cool tidbit. I guess a quote by Manzanera says the album was only you're fine not only very acoustic…

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm fine. I'm fine. Everything's fine.

Mandatory Music: but very orchestral.

Mandatory Music: I didn't think it was a brilliant idea to have so much orchestra, so it was diluted in the end. there you go. And all the guitar solos were done in the last month of recording.

Mandatory Music: He left the electric stuff for the last moment. And he even said he wasn't sure he was going to do it at all. that Yeah.

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Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, …

Sebastian Kwapich: it is interesting because this album is a lot more orchestral driven than what Pink Floyd people like…

Mandatory Music: Or…

Sebastian Kwapich: what you're used to for Pink Floyd.

Mandatory Music: even Luck Strange, looking strange is straight up,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: it's guitars, bass, drums, keys, and…

Sebastian Kwapich: There's a lot of film score orchestra type tones to each of the tracks.

Mandatory Music: yeah, yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: And…

Mandatory Music: And take a breath.

Sebastian Kwapich: there's some jazz in it, too. …

Mandatory Music: There is some jazz. He loves the jazz.

Sebastian Kwapich: yeah, some jazz flavors for sure.

Sebastian Kwapich: That's something that I haven't listened to in a long time is just straight up jazz.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I'm not a big jazz guy.

Mandatory Music: I don't know. that's …

Sebastian Kwapich: You have to see it live.

Sebastian Kwapich: Jazz is such a different animal when you go see it live and…

Mandatory Music: right, with all the improvisation and…

Sebastian Kwapich: you Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: that's what it's all about.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's what it's about. you have the initial song and then you basically just feel it live and…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's the magic of jazz when you see people just do it live and…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, no.

Sebastian Kwapich: just explore that space of songs. So yeah. No, there's some pretty good tracks on here. it's definitely not one that you would want again to take to the gym when you want to lift the world, but if you're going on like a long marathon run, that's probably very therapeutic to put into your Also true.

Mandatory Music: Or it could slow you down because it is so incredibly Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: because Lately when I run I have the exact opposite of what we're talking about on is the louder kind of the better. But I've run some half marathons with just Pink Floyd going and…

Mandatory Music: just have a playlist of just all Floyd from over the years and the longer songs the better because if you get through let's hear it.

Sebastian Kwapich: I have a Pink Floyd story actually.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, I tore my miniscus playing soccer probably 12 years ago or…

Mandatory Music: Mhm. Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: 10 years ago or something like that, nine years ago maybe. so I was on a wait list to get an MRI and they asked me if you were okay doing midnight bookings cuz our hospital on Bard Street was going to a 24-hour MRI schedule…

Mandatory Music: Sure.

Sebastian Kwapich: because of a lot of the backed MRIs that people needed. So I said it doesn't matter…

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: what time of the day. I'll go at 4 in the morning. It doesn't Just get me in. And so my weight for six months went down to a month and a half basically.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: What? Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: And they took me in and it was 12:30 a.m. I go in and she's like, "Okay, here's the MRI machine. we'll put headphones on. you're going to go in there and it's going to be loud, blah, blah, blah." So, she's like, "What do you want to listen to?" I put the headphones on and Pink Floyd was playing. I'm like, "This is fine.

Mandatory Music: Of course you did,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Just play Pink Floyd." I fell asleep during my MRI.

Mandatory Music: right? Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: And if anyone's ever been in an MRI machine, it's loud. It's so I go in there and…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: I didn't fall asleep right away, But they go in and they take a couple pictures and they gradually go to a longer periods of time, but they want to make sure you're okay first. So I was out within two and a half minutes and…

Sebastian Kwapich: then she wakes me up and I'm like, " what's going on?" She's like, "Oh, no. We're all done." I'm like, " I do it?" She's like, "You didn't move for the 30 minutes you were in there.

Mandatory Music: Perfect. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: You were asleep for 30 minutes." we have some great images…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. No kidding.

Sebastian Kwapich: because Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Because you're not supposed to move at all.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, no. So, I was frozen asleep listening to Pink Floyd for 30 minutes with this magnet going.

Mandatory Music: No. That's amazing. Yeah. That magnet's horrible.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, Pink Floyd, it's, …

Mandatory Music: Yeah. That's cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: you want to get an MRI,…

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: put on some Pink Floyd.

Mandatory Music: I'm curious. The headphones they gave you,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yes, sir.

Mandatory Music: what kind of headphone? what? Because I know you're not supposed to have any metal on you or…

Sebastian Kwapich: No, they were like when we used to have those tape decks those little kind of foamy plastic headphones they Yeah.

Mandatory Music: anything like that. my god. Yeah. Really? That's what they were? they're money. That's awesome.

Sebastian Kwapich: When we had those Walkmans the tape Walkman's so yeah…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. yeah, that's right.

Mandatory Music: back in the day.

Sebastian Kwapich: but I didn't go in all the way so I only went into my waist.

Mandatory Music: They're doing your knee. Yeah. So I had one on my shoulder years ago and…

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: So I didn't need to go in all the way. So, …

Mandatory Music: I was in head first and I'm like I don't think I can.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's very claustrophobic, isn't it?

Mandatory Music: Yeah. It was weird because they're like okay just arms, have your arms at your sides and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: they're move. I'm like how long can I have to not move for? half hour to 45 minutes. it's So you just do it. But then of course as soon as you say you're going to do it, you get some itch in your foot and you're " good God." Or you get an itch in your back,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I got a Yeah.

Mandatory Music: you know that you say, " I need to get to it." And yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: You do want to do it.

Mandatory Music: all you want to do is the shuffle on your back just to get the itch to go away and it's like, "Nope, you just got to deal with it." Or you got to sneeze or something. yeah, but it was loud and stupid, but it worked well.

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Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: It shows things and it's there for a reason.

Mandatory Music: …

Sebastian Kwapich: Pink Floyd, that's your go- for MRIs.

Mandatory Music: yeah, if you ever even need an MRI, get the Pink Floyd going. you'll be just fine.

Sebastian Kwapich: It works,…

Mandatory Music: You'll be asleep and…

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm telling you.

Mandatory Music: you'll be good to go.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. No,…

Mandatory Music: So, I think the to round all this out, I don't think we need to spend a ton of time talking about this because I don't think you enjoyed this nearly as much as you enjoyed Luck and Strange. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: I definitely liked Luck and Strange better for sure.

Mandatory Music: Lock and strange is just …

Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: he said it.

Sebastian Kwapich: the thing with Luck and…

Mandatory Music: What does Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Strange is it gives you more variety of songs whereas On an Island is all the same mood. I mean, there's variety, but time-wise, they all feel the same pace, right? And I'm a big proponent,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah. They really do.

Sebastian Kwapich: someone that very much enjoys different speeds in an album.

Sebastian Kwapich: You can't just have all fast,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. No.

Sebastian Kwapich: you can't just have all slow. Just all starts to say on one song.

Mandatory Music: And that's funny you say that cuz I put this on in the car. It's me and the misses were going somewhere and she's like, "Do we have to listen to this?" I'm like,…

Mandatory Music: "Why was it on? It's David Gilmore." She's like, "It all sounds the same." Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: There's a time and…

Sebastian Kwapich: a place for it. this is definitely an album that's not like an everyday album, but for sure you're right.

Mandatory Music: No. Sure.

Sebastian Kwapich: If you're in a period of reflection and you want to really go inside of your soul, this album will definitely help get you there.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Sure.

Sebastian Kwapich: If you want to go to sleep at night, I know that sounds bad, but it's a calming album,…

Mandatory Music: That's Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: right? Yeah.

Mandatory Music: And No.

Sebastian Kwapich: You're not going to use it as a warm-up song before you step on a soccer field or,…

Mandatory Music: No. Or the No.

Sebastian Kwapich: this is not your entrance theme music to, a boxing match or anything like that, but maybe.

Mandatory Music: I've always known in the back of my head all these songs sound the same, but I still love and a pocket full of stones, which is on right now. It's that song is but I think it would have been better without the orchestra behind it if it was just a piano and the guitar only for the whole song.

Sebastian Kwapich: Did he tour this album?

Mandatory Music: Yes. it might have been all Richard,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Did the orchestra or was it all like synth or was it all played in the background tracks?

Mandatory Music: And they probably had another synth player doing it all. I don't think he cart did a whole orchestra around. and he didn't play a ton of songs from it either.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, probably not.

Mandatory Music: Let me pull up live in Gdansk…

Mandatory Music: because that was that tour. And that's a great live record actually.

Sebastian Kwapich: Shout out to my city in Poland there.

Sebastian Kwapich: Ginance. Let's go.

Mandatory Music: There you go, so he played off of this album. What did he play? Castellarization on an island. The blue red sky night. This heaven.

Mandatory Music: He played a lot of Okay,…

Sebastian Kwapich: So that's five of them already. So you did play quite a bit.

Mandatory Music: Then I close my eyes,…

Sebastian Kwapich: That's half six. Okay. So you played pretty much everything.

Mandatory Music: take a breath. my god. Pocket Full of Stones. He played most of the record.

Mandatory Music: He played 20 my god. He played Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Is this off one set list or…

Sebastian Kwapich: is it just on the tour?

Mandatory Music: this is one set list. You played 24 songs.

Sebastian Kwapich: Remember when we went to see Iron Maiden on the Brave New World tour and they started the concert playing the first six or…

Mandatory Music: Yes. First Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: first five songs on the album.

Mandatory Music: The first five off of Brave No Water like Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: One song one,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Which is…

Sebastian Kwapich: song two, song three. And you're like, are they just going to play the whole album and  That was very weird. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: which live in Gdansk. it's over two and a half hours long.

Mandatory Music: So in ' 06 he was still older. He played Echo, all 25, 26 of it, which is pretty crazy. He played High Hopes is 10 minutes. Comfortably Gnome was 10 minutes. Shine On was 12. there's a lot of long songs on this,…

Mandatory Music: which he opened the show with Speak to Me and Breathe and then Time and Breathe in the Air again or Reprise, a different version. but yeah, no, he played most of on an island, which talk and he played them all in a row, which I'm not sure that's a good idea.

Sebastian Kwapich: That's a …

Sebastian Kwapich: you did the Iron Maiden thing.

Mandatory Music: He played from song five until song basically 14 where all was on an island.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: I understand where he's there to promote his new music,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I don't get that either.

Mandatory Music: but …

Sebastian Kwapich: But you know what?

Mandatory Music: as we were talking about,…

Sebastian Kwapich: You want to play the music you just wrote because it's fresh and you like it.

Mandatory Music: of course. but what I'm getting at is wouldn't you spread them out a little bit instead of hitting you with nine straight songs,…

Sebastian Kwapich: One would think. Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: sort of, okay, he's going to play, okay, we're playing 24 songs, nine are new, we got 15 others. Why would

Sebastian Kwapich: But that's a very Pink Floyd aka David Gilmore thing to do.

Mandatory Music: Isn't it though?

Sebastian Kwapich: That's just so they're unapologetically the way they are,…

Mandatory Music: Yep. Yeah. That's just how it is. Yeah. Yeah.

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Sebastian Kwapich: right? And you Yeah.

Mandatory Music: And that's Okay. you just answered my question of why spread them out. Forget that. Let's just No, we're going to give them the whole record.

Sebastian Kwapich: Why not

Mandatory Music: And if you don't like it, because I think there's a lot of people at this concert. It looked like an awful lot of people. there's a live footage of this professionally filmed. It's amazing. You should check it out. It's probably on YouTube.

Mandatory Music: probably on YouTube. but it's really good.

Sebastian Kwapich: probably. Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I will say this…

Mandatory Music: You like it?

Sebastian Kwapich: though and I don't mean to say this to detour from the lyric writing or the lyrics,…

Mandatory Music: Interesting.

Sebastian Kwapich: but I actually believe that the three instrumentals are the three best songs on the album.

Mandatory Music: Because they're the most different and varied, right? Because they offer you something a little different than the other batch of songs.

Sebastian Kwapich: And they're strategically put in too, Because I mean it opens with an instrumental,…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: then you have three songs with lyrics, then you have a break right at the five slot. You have another instrumental,…

Mandatory Music: Yep. Interesting.

Sebastian Kwapich: then you have another song, then an instrumental, and then closes off with three lyrical songs. But yeah,…

Mandatory Music: That's just something to break up probably.

Sebastian Kwapich: I think it's purposely done in those for pacing purposes for the album, right? So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, absolutely.

Sebastian Kwapich: David Gilmore doesn't strike me as the type of person just randomly throw songs in rotation.

Sebastian Kwapich: Everything is very purposeful with how he arranges the song orders on albums or even set lists.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yep.

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: There's a reason he's doing…

Mandatory Music: Without a doubt.

Sebastian Kwapich: what he's doing it. And most of the time people can't figure it out.

Mandatory Music: Yep. No, only he knows,…

Sebastian Kwapich: And maybe you're not supposed to,…

Mandatory Music: right? Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: Maybe you're just supposed to feel it. but yeah, David Gilmore is a very feeling guy.

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: He does a lot of things based on feeling, I suspect. So, …

Mandatory Music: If this is any indication, so he put a record out in 2015. He toured I did a live show in Pompei, which they did a famous concert in Pompei back in 71.

Mandatory Music: He only played, I believe, one song from Modern Island, but This was the greatest hits of …

Sebastian Kwapich: So his set list is limited because there's certain songs he's required to play or…

Mandatory Music: yeah, there was a lot of Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: he should be playing.

Mandatory Music: there was a lot of Rattle That Lock in there,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. You bring up a good point as well.

Mandatory Music: but there was What do you want from me from The Division Bell, Fat Old Son from Adam Hartmother, there's Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Legacy versus album tours. And I know Iron Maiden does a lot of that. they'll do a tour that's centered around the latest album they've released, and then a year or two later, they'll come back and do a legacy tour, which is basically a greatest hits tour,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: right? So, it's smart from a marketing standpoint because now your fan is going to go see them again because okay, we saw them this time and…

Sebastian Kwapich: it was largely songs off the album,…

Mandatory Music: Yep. …

Sebastian Kwapich: the new album. They're coming back in two years and they're going to be playing all of their hits from the 80s and…

Mandatory Music: yeah. Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: 90s. Let's go see them again.

Mandatory Music: cuz what we just saw last year was …

Sebastian Kwapich: So, there's a theme tour.

Mandatory Music: it was a theme tour. It was the new record mixed with Somewhere in Time.

Sebastian Kwapich: And that was 70% of the set list,…

Mandatory Music: And then the tour before was a legacy tour.

Sebastian Kwapich: too. Those two albums,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: just those two albums alone.

Mandatory Music: Basically. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, yeah.

Mandatory Music: There's a couple other classics thrown in for fun and that was And the time The Legacy of the Beast in 2019 and then before that was an album tour.

Mandatory Music: Then before that was a legacy tour and so on and so forth. So it…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: but that also begs the question, do you really want to be on the road that long? It's a lot of touring, That's a lot, right? it's like it takes its toll. Eventually it's got to take its toll or what? I don't know. Do you

Sebastian Kwapich: I really think Metallica nailed it on their tour this one cuz I would assume they're not with the roadies the whole week,…

Sebastian Kwapich: They arrive Friday morning at the city.

Mandatory Music: God,…

Mandatory Music: no. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: Probably Thursday night. Let's be real.

Mandatory Music: It say Thursday night to be Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: They're in the city Sunday night.

Mandatory Music: Yep. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: They spend Wednesday at home and then fly out back to the city on Thursday…

Mandatory Music: They only do two.

Sebastian Kwapich: because they can afford to do that,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So yeah.

Mandatory Music: They can afford to do two weeks off. I saw a crazy stat, which obviously It's out of context really, but Metallica's grossed over whatever $1.5 billion in their career playing live. And Taylor Swift's tour, just the Arrows tour alone was 2 whatever. But again, the money is different now and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. She's also been on tour for two years almost on this tour.

Mandatory Music: it's much bigger, two or three years.

Mandatory Music: and she plays a lot more shows like she played six three or…

Sebastian Kwapich: Three in a row in Vancouver.

Mandatory Music: she played six in Toronto in a row and…

Sebastian Kwapich: She played Sunday. Yeah. Yeah,…

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Mandatory Music: that's like selling out where the Blue Jays play. So there's 60 70,000 people a night. So if you think of it that way it's mindboggling how much but it's a lot either way it's still a lot.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: that's a lot. And she plays for three hours too apparently.

Mandatory Music: They've done it over 40 years or Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So she does.

Mandatory Music: I don't think we'll see much of her for a while. I think she's going to take a nice deserved break. she deserves it. I think she's insane that lady. so yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: But yeah.

Mandatory Music: so I was kind of hoping that your reaction on an island was different, but now that I have your perspective on it, I still love it.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's not a bad album by any means,…

Mandatory Music: No, it's very

Sebastian Kwapich: but it's not something that people can listen to all the time.

Mandatory Music: No, it's very mood.

Sebastian Kwapich: Specific Yeah.

Mandatory Music: It's mood specific. If and it's not for everybody. it's I don't know.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. I do think there would be a I shouldn't say better…

Mandatory Music: I love the way he plays guitar, all that stuff. So, the more of that I can have in my life, I'm good. I don't care in what form, acoustic, whatever. Just to hear the man strum chords, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: but more widespread appeal if some of the songs were a little more varied. I think a lot of people would really dive more into the album. a lot of the tracks really kind of feel similar in terms of the mood and what the structure is of it and whatnot, which is fine.

Mandatory Music: Mhm. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: When you're prepared for that, I guess, or when you're doesn't matter.

Mandatory Music: And that's just…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: what he wrote and that's just what was coming out. And obviously Luck we've gone to the Luck and Strange thing a few times tonight. And it's Luck and Strange is really varied and there's a lot of all the songs they're I say more different…

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: Yep. Yeah. more different.

Mandatory Music: because That's bad English. More different.

Sebastian Kwapich: You can say It's fine.

Mandatory Music: I just did. but there's just differences between the songs and I don't want to say this is a hard listen. It's just luck and strange is a more broad broader listen because there's more there I didn't like it that much…

Sebastian Kwapich: So after this one, he did rattle that log. Is it substantially different than this one? Interesting. Why not?

Mandatory Music: but I don't know I didn't like the sound of it…

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay. …

Mandatory Music: but it came out in 15 I think I haven't listened to it since 2016.

Mandatory Music: I should give it a chance because I like the acoustic sounds and I think this is pure ignorance talking but from what I remember it's not that you might like it because I think it's a little more upbeat.

Sebastian Kwapich: Interesting.

Mandatory Music: In terms of the universe that we're talking about there's more pace to it,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Maybe.

Mandatory Music: but yeah, it didn't do it for me at the time, but that could have been just maybe where I was in terms of what I wanted to hear in my ears, and it probably wasn't that. So, I might let's do it tomorrow because I have all the time in the world.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Mike's off work right now. It's amazing.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. a month off of work and if this could be my full-time job doing this…

Sebastian Kwapich: Jealous. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: what we're doing, it would be absolutely amazing. But we're far from that.

Mandatory Music: So, we'll get there one day.

Sebastian Kwapich: But yeah,…

Mandatory Music: But I'm not quite either way,…

Sebastian Kwapich: and in that Mike's quitting his job and…

Mandatory Music: I'm not quitting my job cuz I like my pension.

Sebastian Kwapich: becoming a full-time podcaster.

Mandatory Music: No.

Sebastian Kwapich: That's the dream eventually.

Mandatory Music: Not for sure. But I don't know if I'd even quit my job because pensions and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Fair enough.

Mandatory Music: all that stuff. That means How do I do Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: And you like driving cuz you listen to your music when you drive and you drive a lot for work. So, it's kind of like it feeds that part of your soul, I guess, the need for music,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: and you can listen to it uninterrupted by anyone else in the household when you're on the road. So, it's almost therapeutic, I would assume.

Mandatory Music: Yes. Very much so.

Sebastian Kwapich: Sort of that, right? So,…

Mandatory Music: And…

Sebastian Kwapich: yeah, I ain't doing s***.

Mandatory Music: the funny thing is because usually when I take time off, I got to do this, I got to do that. Last week was just like I'm going to do my running what I need to do. I was doing stuff,…

Mandatory Music: but I wasn't frantically going, "Okay, I need stuff to do."

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Perfect.

Mandatory Music: I was able to just sit back and go I could take a breath and I'm And the wife asked, "What did you do today?" I said, after you guys left, I worked on some music. I had a shower, walk the dogs, and that's my day." And that's my god.

Sebastian Kwapich: Sometimes you need that in life though.

Mandatory Music: Like you do.

Sebastian Kwapich: You need to slow down and…

Mandatory Music: And yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: relax because chaos and hecticness and…

Mandatory Music: And I'm in a mental space…

Sebastian Kwapich: whatnot. So good for you.

Mandatory Music: where I'm not Atlas with the world on my shoulders but the weight of stuff isn't there and…

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Sebastian Kwapich: Feels like it sometimes.

Mandatory Music: it's freaking amazing. it's amazing. Yeah. So no.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, good album. would I listen to it on a daily basis? No. …

Mandatory Music: Will you ever listen to it again?

Sebastian Kwapich: will I listen to it again?

Mandatory Music: Probably not. Maybe.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: Yes, I will. Maybe not the whole album, but I would definitely put,…

Mandatory Music: No, but yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: listen to some songs.

Mandatory Music: there are some really good on an island it's just to have that on rotation in a playlist of some kind.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: That's like the number one single from that album, right? So,…

Mandatory Music: absolutely. Mhm.

Sebastian Kwapich: and It's the album name as well. but yeah. No, it's a good album. It's David Gilmore. less is more. That's his whole existence in music is…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Mhm.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Sebastian Kwapich: How much can we say with the least amount of Work is the wrong word. what can we say with the least amount of notes basically…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Stalty in open space.

Sebastian Kwapich: because it's all about subtlety. Yeah. So,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Breathing.

Sebastian Kwapich: good album.

Mandatory Music: Anyways, good.

Sebastian Kwapich: I enjoyed it.

Mandatory Music: So, that'll be it for the David Gilmore talk for a while.

Sebastian Kwapich: The foreseeable future Why?

Mandatory Music: Hey, you know what? I got you.

Mandatory Music: listen to it. That makes me happy. So, I'm glad you did. So, on that note, yeah, whatever. thank you for listening and bringing us into your lives. We appreciate it wholeheartedly and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Thank you.

Mandatory Music: we will be back again next week with I have an idea…

Sebastian Kwapich: Something. You'll have to tune in next week.

Mandatory Music: what I'm not going to there's no forcing here. We'll have to tune in All Good night. You forgot to do Okay,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Bye.

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