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Mandatory Music
Top 5 Guitarists Part 1
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🎸 This week on Mandatory Music, we’re diving back into a fan favorite — a Top 5 list! And not just any list… we're tackling our Top 5 Guitarists of All Time. As long-time guitar players ourselves, we knew this was going to be nearly impossible — there’s just too much talent to choose from.
We had so much to say that we had to split the episode in two. In this first part, we count down picks #5, #4, and #3, with the top two coming later this week.
We had a blast putting this one together, and honestly… ask us again next week, and the list might change. Think we nailed it? Or are we completely out to lunch? Hit us up and let us know what your top 5 would be!
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Sebastian (00:07.904)
Welcome to mandatory music. My name is Sebastian. I'm here with my good buddy, Michael. How are you, sir? On this fine Monday.
Michael (00:16.494)
Good evening, sir. It's a happy Monday. I'm good. Oh, I said I'm already twice. Look at me. no, I'm good.
Sebastian (00:21.482)
Good, good. That's okay. We have an AI tracker just for that. Mike is already on two and we're 15 seconds into the podcast.
Michael (00:27.182)
Oh man. I want to see if we can beat last week of, I believe it was 385 ums and ahs. So I'm going to try really hard not to do either of those. It's tracking. It's all, it's AI. It's always listening to it. Um, tonight we are, we're doing, we're doing another top five list and, uh, but I'm not sure you like this list because it might be too difficult to, to narrow it down from 8,000 to five.
Sebastian (00:35.914)
Well, you just said another two, so, you know, it's tracking. It's tracking.
Sebastian (00:46.462)
We all know how we like our lists, so.
It's difficult.
Sebastian (00:56.646)
I've, I've, I've conceded to the fact that this may not be a representative of my actual top five, but I'll just do five that have piqued my interest that I would put consider in a top five scenario. Right. So I'm not going to give an order for it. I'm just going to, because it's too hard. It's too hard.
Michael (01:15.458)
You wimp. Come on, man. You got to give it an order. You got to have a clear cut. Number one, clear cut. You got to do it. It it's as so as people, people know both of us play guitar. We, love guitar centric music and our, our sort of fascination with the instrument goes over like all genres. Like I can appreciate guitar in any genre of music. And we share, we share videos to each other of.
Sebastian (01:17.6)
man. All right, I'll give it an order.
Sebastian (01:25.12)
All right. man. Yes. Correct.
Michael (01:44.194)
guys playing acoustics, finger picking stuff, you name it. desert blues, whatever, heavy metal shredding. That was a nice sound. that's okay. cat again. But yeah, so guitar players, it's, it's tough. Like this, this list, like I obviously, I think of who are my favorite guitar players all the time. And
Sebastian (01:55.456)
Sorry, I was just turning my mic. My cat bonked it trying to climb on top of my lap here. Yeah, it's always always a cat issue.
Sebastian (02:12.553)
Yep.
Michael (02:12.768)
it's ever rotating, kind of depends on the mood you're in, but there's, for me, there's a stable of, well, at least five that are always there for me when I need, I feel like I need this today or I feel like I need that today. They're always there. And then it's just fun to find new people, but that five's always.
Sebastian (02:33.118)
Man, I've been, my's been switching so much. I'm just like, well, if I put him here then, so if he could do like a top 10, that would be great, but it's five. So I have honorable mentions.
Michael (02:40.29)
Well, we'll do, well, maybe another day, another time we'll do, we'll do another five that aren't my top five. That would be maybe your top five. Yeah. Just five, five randos.
Sebastian (02:46.654)
Maybe.
Just five, yeah.
Sebastian (02:53.704)
I do have some honorable mentions that we can talk about afterwards and the reasons why they're not in the top five list. but yeah, sure. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah.
Michael (03:02.062)
Did you want me to go first? Could that make it easier for you? Okay. So when we did our vocalists, top five, I, I mentioned Jim, Jim Morrison, because my love of the doors and my love of everything about the doors, Raymond's Eric's keyboards and Robbie Krieger's guitar. He, you know, obviously the sixties were a different time.
Sebastian (03:10.997)
Yes.
Sebastian (03:18.676)
Yep.
Michael (03:31.438)
You know, they're, by the time they came out, Jamie Hendrix is around Clapton, Jimmy Page, all those guys were around, but Robbie is a flamenco style guitar player, finger picker. And he's all about sort of not flashy leads. was just all about. Cause in the doors, the lead instrument was the, was the Oregon really that that was like their lead guitar. And Robbie was just, he was just color and shade and all the, accompaniment that they needed. And I just loved the way he plays it. Just.
I think he's underappreciated. He's a great guitar player, but you'll never hear him.
Sebastian (04:00.575)
Yeah.
There's a kind of subtlety around his guitar work as well. Like he's not like a super flashy thrasher, right? But he's a very accomplished guitarist for sure. Yeah. It's interesting that you would put the doors up there because they're so organ heavy, right? But whenever they put guitar work in it, it fits the song so well.
Michael (04:10.06)
Yeah.
No.
Michael (04:17.622)
Yeah. So again, he's not.
Michael (04:24.472)
I know, right?
Michael (04:29.858)
man, even just like, yeah, I could think of a million songs, even when the music's over accompanies that base, that organ bass and keyboard lines so well, even the end, it's all finger picked in like in the key of D, in the key of D. And it's just, it's awesome. Yeah, I know Krieger is, yeah, I think he's an unsung, cause you'll never put him on a list with Jimmy Page or any of those guys. Cause he's just, he's the light, no, he's the light, my fire guy. And he's so much more than.
Sebastian (04:38.163)
Yeah.
Sebastian (04:45.47)
Yeah.
Sebastian (04:52.576)
He's not known as a thrasher, right? So yeah.
great song, by the way. Dude, I had to revisit the doors. I haven't listened to the doors in a while. There's two weeks in a row or two of last three weeks. We're talking about the doors. Yeah. Okay. My number five also is not a flashy guitarist. And this one might surprise you because I'm not sure if you're prepared for what I'm going to say. But his his guitar work when you listen to it is so beautiful.
Michael (04:59.084)
I know. So great. Anyways, that's my, you should totally should mentioning the doors, right?
Michael (05:19.272)
boy.
Sebastian (05:27.804)
and seems so like it's just so the way he plays guitar is actually incredibly difficult to try to emulate. And I'm talking about I always say his name wrong, but it's john fruchante from red hot chili peppers. So I promise you, try to play some of their hits and it's way harder than you think it is. I promise you.
Michael (05:44.143)
John Frusciante, he's... yeah.
Michael (05:53.682)
even though I'm just thinking of Under the Bridge and I can remember when I was a young man, could kind of do it. It was all over the place and that dude is so creative and so...
Sebastian (05:57.042)
It's not easy to play.
Sebastian (06:06.378)
So the reason I like him is because he does a lot of arpeggiated chords, but he does a lot of interesting chords. And they're, you know, the way he plays on that electric guitar is usually a lot of clean work, but it just rings. just corally rings, right? And, you know, if you ever watch his hands in a live performance, you're like, wow, that looks like complicated what he's doing there. Like just listen to like, Cation or under the bridge, you know, breaking the girl. If you listen to that song, it's so super uniquely done.
Michael (06:16.205)
Mm-hmm.
Michael (06:25.213)
yeah, right.
Michael (06:34.986)
Mm-hmm.
Sebastian (06:35.636)
there's a lot of like raking of the strings where you just mute the strings, you know, and he just slides the chords up and up and up and up and up. So just purely from like a songwriting and uniqueness style of the choices that he makes to for music. And Red Hot Chili Peppers definitely have a very defined sound to them. And a lot of that is because of him, him and Flea as well, but like very bass heavy.
Michael (06:57.74)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they're very bass heavy too, which is interesting because he's playing off of what Flea is playing. He's not necessarily the lead guy. It's usually the bass, the bass is the lead and then Froschante is just adding.
Sebastian (07:06.216)
Yes.
Well, that it is an interesting point because they have arguably one of the best bassists ever in that band. Like he's so talented. because they're so bass heavy, allows for Shantae to not have to play, you know, these metal riffs, so to speak. He can go up to the fretboard and play all these arpeggiated chords, like really high up on the twelfth fret or tenth fret, ninth fret, And it opens up because it's so there's such a good
Michael (07:15.896)
yeah.
Michael (07:25.635)
No.
Sebastian (07:38.164)
bass sound already coming through that he can do like the lead clean work up high on the board and make it, you know, give that patented Red Hot Chili Pepper sound, right? So.
Michael (07:47.478)
Yeah. He's a lot like Robbie Krieger of the eighties and nineties, right? Because if you think of flea and the organ and the doors, it's kind of all the same because men's ever played the organ and the key and the, and the bass basically with his feet. And he had the bass keyboard and yeah, it's just very similar guitar players. And it's very interesting that we went, man. Yeah.
Sebastian (07:50.804)
There you go. There you go.
Sebastian (08:00.864)
Yeah.
Sebastian (08:04.788)
like, like listen to scar tissue. Amazing lead work, Californication under the bridge, other side, breaking the girl lever. He said that one, Danny California, snow, that song amazing too. That's, that's very difficult to play by the way. It's very fast and very quick. So yeah, he's on my list. So there you go. I know that's outside the box. That's probably not what you're expecting, but I massively respect him. And there's so many just
Michael (08:18.926)
interesting.
I can imagine. Wow. Okay.
No.
Sebastian (08:35.518)
red hot chili peppers riffs that just live in my head all the time. yeah. All right, Mike, give me your next one here.
Michael (08:40.086)
Interesting. Okay. Okay, I'm going sort of into a box and not the man in the box because it's not him, but.
Sebastian (08:50.612)
Bounce, out, bounce.
Michael (08:53.132)
I'm going to say slash for number four, just because of what he did. Like obviously his body work in guns and roses isn't huge. They only did what three really three albums more or less. And, but some of the riffs in those three albums, even the stuff on appetite, you know, you're much more of an appetite guy than me. I'm a user illusion one mainly guy. That's that's my jam.
Sebastian (09:08.704)
Yeah.
Sebastian (09:19.178)
Dude, I'm a homer for Appetite for Destruction. I freaking love that album so much.
Michael (09:21.046)
You told you so are, but even so, even just all that stuff is the iconic Les Paul Marshall stack and he's turned up to.
Sebastian (09:29.492)
He kind of put that in the mainstream, I think. Or he helped put the Les Paul Marshall half stack into the mainstream. Yeah.
Michael (09:32.078)
I think so, I think it helped. He helped, sure. know, like everybody, every rock heavy rock band and their mother has played on a Les Paul and a Marshall, but.
Sebastian (09:43.732)
For those that don't know, there is, when you have an electric guitar, you have to pair it with an amp, basically. And often the pairing of the guitar, having a great guitar and a great amp and that pairing is so important. So your guitar will sound different paired with different amps. And one of the most classic combinations that pretty much every major guitarist at some point probably had was a Les Paul Gibson Les Paul guitar with a Marshall half stack.
Michael (09:50.019)
Yes.
Michael (09:57.646)
Mm-hmm.
Michael (10:01.187)
Sure.
Sebastian (10:13.566)
Like that is the iconic eighties, nineties set up that you will sound like slash if you, if you have that and he helped make it famous, I guess. So.
Michael (10:24.268)
Yeah. And you know, some of the other, there are some older guys that played through a tube of slash really brought it to, to the mainstream and just, and even just the way he plays, even though forget the leads, the leads he's out of this world, the leads like all the November rain, don't cry. All the tender leads.
Sebastian (10:32.352)
forefront.
Sebastian (10:43.976)
Well, I mean, November late rain is the top five guitar solo of all time, that ending solo. And you can also say that sweet child of mine might be one of the greatest intros in history. Right? Like.
Michael (10:53.034)
Ever. Sure. Yep. So with all, with all that said, you know, the dude is a, he's a monster at playing fast. He's a monster at playing amazing, tender rhythms. And he's, he's just such a good songwriter. I don't listen to much of his stuff with, Miles Kennedy or anything like that, or the Velber stuff. Are they? I've never, I just, yeah, that's kind of my issue.
Sebastian (11:05.854)
Yeah.
Sebastian (11:15.054)
great. They're good. Yeah, I'm not a big Miles Kennedy vocal fan, though. There's the to me with him. I feel like there's a cockiness like there. I mean, I got to be careful how I say it, but he knows he's good. And you can tell by the way he sings that he knows that he's good. There's like an honesty there that's not there in his voice where he's just trying to show off his voice a lot. Yeah, I get it. I get it. He's a great singer, though, but.
Michael (11:29.304)
Thank you.
Michael (11:34.006)
Yeah, and he kinda, I don't know, just sum up buttons. Yeah, it rubs me, it rubs me the wrong way. You know, he's a great singer. I'm not, yeah, I'm never gonna say he's not, but yeah, but Slash is just, and he just seems like he's just a good guy. Like you see all the interviews, he seems like a nice guy, for the most part. I'm sure he.
Sebastian (11:45.29)
Yeah.
Sebastian (11:54.142)
Yeah, there's a running joke that he doesn't know anything technical on the guitar. So he has to have like people set up his amps for him because he's just plays guitar. Like he just doesn't care to learn about the technical side of like what the frequency of these pickups are. There's like, it sounds good to me. So let's do it.
Michael (12:01.794)
That's amazing. Yeah.
Michael (12:09.602)
That's, and that surprises me of a guy of that kind of.
Sebastian (12:13.288)
I don't know if that's true or not. It's just something I read a long time ago, but so.
Michael (12:15.928)
But even though this even this is play along with it is true. It's just he just goes in and tells the guy to turn it on and turn it up to whatever. Just play. I'm just here to I'm just here to play. But slash is so good.
Sebastian (12:19.006)
Yeah.
He's just there for the music, man. yeah. It is fascinating with Slash 2 because he has such an iconic style in terms of like when you hear Slash do like lead work or riffs like you can't really go through a lot of Guns N' Roses material and go, yeah, this is a riff from this song. This is a riff from this song because they don't do riffs.
Michael (12:44.621)
Not really.
Sebastian (12:45.024)
Like that's why Guns N' Roses is different than like Metallica, for example, because Metallica is all about the riff, right? You hear that riff and it's iconic for that song. Whereas like Slash is like a bona fide lead guitarist. Like it's a combination of the rhythm and the lead that combine for like the sound basically, right? So, but he's got this kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for?
Michael (12:48.3)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Michael (12:56.502)
yeah.
Michael (13:01.293)
Mm-hmm.
Sebastian (13:10.632)
Like he's got like a modulating approach to a lot of his lead work where he doesn't like repeat over and over and over the same thing. Like he'll let things like linger and he'll like do them in patches. But like, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but. Yeah.
Michael (13:21.206)
Yeah.
Michael (13:26.658)
Well, I think it's his phrasing is where you're going, and he's able to find the space and not just fill that space with notes. He's kind of like David Gilmore in a way, but just a lot faster where...
Sebastian (13:39.572)
He plays around a lot with the timing of the bars of the music. like he'll go into like one patches of the solo and he'll like sing competed on the off beats. And then the next passage of that same riff, he'll like play on the beat or, you know, he'll add a bunch of notes like he does a lot of like just, you know, different, slightly different things. Experimentation. Yeah.
Michael (13:42.253)
Mm-hmm.
Michael (13:52.589)
Yeah.
Michael (13:57.524)
experimentation. And it probably a lot of it is just off the cuff too. He's just that good where, right? Like not like other guitar players that are not on my list.
Sebastian (14:03.88)
He is really good. Yeah.
Sebastian (14:09.888)
It may not be on my list either. okay. Okay. My number four is we have covered one of his songs before on this podcast, but it's Mr. Zach Wild. So.
Michael (14:11.402)
Anyways, okay, son, you're number four.
Michael (14:21.617)
yeah, of course. How could he not be on your list?
Sebastian (14:25.696)
I adore Zach Wilde. I adore his guitar playing. I will say this about him. Sometimes it's too much for his solo work. Like sometimes I feel if he just takes more space and just lets things pace a little bit better, like it doesn't always have to be flashy and pinch harmonica all the way through. However, he's a phenomenal combination of having great lead work.
Michael (14:27.415)
You do.
Michael (14:41.997)
Mm-hmm.
Michael (14:46.06)
No.
Sebastian (14:52.22)
and being a phenomenal rhythm riff maker. Like listen to No More Tears, listen to, although I know that's bass heavy, but listen to his version of No More Tears, where he plays it on the guitar. Yes. Yeah.
Michael (14:55.69)
man, is he ever.
Michael (15:02.188)
Well, but even still on No More Tears with that slide guitar, you know, the slide and then going into the chunky heavy part, that's just, I mean, that's awesome.
Sebastian (15:10.42)
He does a lot of work in Drop D as well. you know, like Miracle Man is probably one of his best riffs as he's ever done. I freaking adore that song. And he's just very like metal Southern Rocky, basically. I adore him. I know we've seen him a couple of times live together. Yeah. We went to his solo project, right? His Book of Shadows tour. Yeah.
Michael (15:12.813)
Yes.
Michael (15:24.705)
yeah.
Michael (15:28.75)
We've seen him a few times, yeah absolutely, more than a few.
Michael (15:36.046)
Yeah, like back in almost 30 years ago when he did the Book of Shadows and we watched him play a bunch of Pride and Glory stuff, a bunch of stuff off of Book of Shadows. All acoustic, just him. I think it was him and one other guitar player. I know I got a couple of guitar picks. We were so close. We were like at his feet and it was just wild. No pun intended. To see Zack Wild.
Sebastian (15:50.058)
was him and another guitarist. Yeah, no drums. It's just guitar work then. Yeah.
Sebastian (16:01.886)
Well, I will say this. If you leave your table two and half feet away from somebody and you leave your guitar picks unattended, then I just think that they're meant to be taken. You're a fair game at the end of the show.
Michael (16:14.542)
It's fair game. It's fair game. I've got them somewhere still. had to grab a green one and a black one. I don't know where they are, but they're in this room somewhere. I don't know.
Sebastian (16:25.76)
Yeah, I don't know where I put them, but yeah, I do. I do have them as well. But yeah, you know, Zach Wild, he's he's he's got this southern drawl sound to him, I guess is the best way of saying it. So he's very he's very southern in the sound, very, very low on the guitar. No.
Michael (16:42.222)
which isn't an easy thing to get the drawl coming out of your guitar. It's not an easy thing to accomplish. Especially if you're like, no, some Pride and Glory song came on, I don't know, recently. And I was like, man, why can't he do more of this? Like, it's just, like, I like black label and all, but can't you go full like heavy metal skinnered again? Just one more album.
Sebastian (16:49.535)
Yep.
Sebastian (17:00.998)
All s- yeah.
Sebastian (17:05.376)
He's only done one album with Pride and Glory, right? It's only the one album, I think.
Michael (17:08.16)
Yeah, yeah. Then there were Book of Shadows one and two and then all rest was black label. But there's a lot of good, there's a prolific guitar player, songwriter, piano player. He's very accomplished. He's got the, yep.
Sebastian (17:12.138)
Yeah.
Sebastian (17:21.952)
Yeah. Oh, he's a singer. Yes, you're right. He's a singer. He's a pianist. Like he can play piano very well. So he's definitely grown up as a musician for sure.
Michael (17:27.83)
yeah, I think he, cause I think he started playing piano first and then he went to guitar when he realized piano wasn't cool. So he played guitar instead. Dude just, he's like, he's just, it's amazing to watch, just to watch the man play just the way he approaches the piano and the guitar and the vocals. Like the dude can, he's do it all. He can do it all.
Sebastian (17:36.479)
Yeah.
Sebastian (17:49.928)
Yeah, so the one the one niche that he has that he's known for is what's known as a pinch harmonic. And that is where you where you you strike the the note but you kind of strike it with like part of the skin as well as the pick. And what it does is it makes the note squeal like so it octaves it up by one or two I'm not sure what the math is on that but it gives that little wham sound. Yeah, he loves he loves his vibrato so
Michael (18:03.394)
Yeah.
Michael (18:13.782)
And then a lot of vibrato on the string as well. Getting that, getting that string is shaken. You know what I mean?
Sebastian (18:21.766)
Get that string a-shakin'. But yeah, Zach Wild, phenomenal guitarist.
Michael (18:22.85)
Get that string of shaking. Was that, wow, that's phenomenal. My number three will probably come to no surprise to you and my love of Led Zeppelin. Actually it was Joe Jonas. I think it was Joe Jonas. He's whatever. No, don't. If you save yourself. Well, that is funny, but. So Jimmy Page.
Sebastian (18:32.817)
Machine Gun Kelly. No, okay.
my God. Watch Joe Jonas's guitar solo. my goodness.
Sebastian (18:47.936)
you
Yep.
Michael (18:51.52)
I, there isn't a lot that I need to say because the proof is in the pudding. It's all in the music. It's all in the live performances that dude. my God. He's, he's just, he can, a guy that can play anything and do anything and just, he knows every, everything about the instrument and he can just, he can just make it shine. And what he did in Zeppelin is you solo records were okay, but
Sebastian (18:59.668)
He's so creative. He's so creative, so creative.
Sebastian (19:16.213)
Yeah.
Michael (19:20.418)
That time in Zeppelin was magic. Those 11 years was just absolute magic. So.
Sebastian (19:26.814)
Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's got a way about, you know, like if you actually deep dive a lot of Led Zeppelin stuff on the guitar, it's, you can take one album of Led Zeppelin and you can look at one song, then the next song, the next song, and everything's so substantially different. What he does, you know, like you can't say that like cash, the riff for cashmere is the same as the riff for stairway. That was a completely different thing, right? He's using octaves and stuff like that, like on cashmere. So, you know,
Michael (19:50.062)
Not even close.
Yep. Yep.
Sebastian (19:56.756)
Great. Yeah. He's a top five guitarist in everyone's list, probably so.
Michael (19:56.76)
Jimmy Page, right?
Michael (20:01.332)
in everyone's list. He's probably number one in many's.
Sebastian (20:04.816)
I I had him, but I will put him aside for my list just because he's.
Michael (20:07.316)
that's an overlap. We actually have one overlap, probably just the only one. Well, maybe that might be another one. you did? nice. But we're not gonna sit too long in the Led Zeppelin world because we don't need to. We don't need to explain to anybody of the greatness of Jimmy Page, to be perfectly honest. Okay, number three.
Sebastian (20:13.458)
No, I had Slash too, but Slash is an honorable mention for me, so yeah.
Sebastian (20:20.703)
No.
Sebastian (20:27.776)
Okay, so my third guitarist is from Extreme, Mr. Nuno Bettencourt. So he has a small sample size, like he's probably not well known in terms of the average person that's involved in music. Like everyone probably knows who Extreme is. He's the more than words guy, yes, but he's an accomplished singer.
Michael (20:33.708)
Ooh, Nuno, I figured he'd be on your list.
Michael (20:45.558)
He's the More Than Words guy.
Michael (20:50.542)
Yeah.
Sebastian (20:50.9)
wrote one of the greatest ballads of the 90s, I would say, like More Than Worlds is freaking amazing song. So he has a really good sense of acoustic of being a riff master, but it's his solo work that I really adore because he doesn't use the natural panatonic scale or minor panatonic scale. Like he really explores with different scale structures and has some interesting choices a lot of the times. Just go listen to his solo for Rise.
Michael (20:53.854)
I'd say almost of all time.
Sebastian (21:21.012)
that end part there where it's all palm muted, it's so difficult to play, but it sounds amazing and unique. His song, Flight of the Wounded Bumblebee, his solo, like two minute solo piece that he whips out from Occasion is phenomenal, right? He's using a delay pedal and an echo pedal as well. So it like echoes like three times. So every time he hits a note, triples. So it's like da-da-da, da-da-da.
Michael (21:27.011)
Yep.
Michael (21:39.8)
Nice.
Sebastian (21:45.33)
And what he does with that is amazing. Yeah, like just go through the extreme catalog and like actually just like pick, you know, focus on his solo lead work. It's phenomenal. He's good. So, Nuno is on my list, man. I know you probably are not the biggest Nuno fan or listen to him that often, but yeah.
Michael (21:45.728)
that's cool.
Michael (21:54.018)
Hmm. Interesting. Wow.
Michael (22:00.96)
No, because I was going to say like when I said he's the more than words guy, like I was talking about how I see him because I don't listen to extreme. I don't listen to any of his solo work. I know he's great.
Sebastian (22:06.737)
once. Yeah.
Sebastian (22:13.234)
Man, listen to rise, listen to rest in peace. His solo on that is phenomenal. Wholehearted. It's a mate. That's an amazing song as well. So, yeah.
Michael (22:19.648)
yeah. that's a good song. That's a great song. Yeah. There you go. Look at that. Nuno. So now, yeah. my God. Is that with the kid with the cigar? Is that the one? Yeah.
Sebastian (22:27.454)
Get the funk out.
Sebastian (22:32.604)
I guess that's that's I think the fur or the second one that they released off of the porno graffiti album or so. Decadent Dance. dude, the guitar work and Decadent Dance is phenomenal.
Michael (22:37.74)
I think so.
Michael (22:42.094)
Yeah, I think I to make a return trip to the Noono world. I should, I'm going to, I'm going to. Oh God, so number two, these decks too are really hard. Like this is almost impossible. Cause I told you I had a solid four and my number one is my number one. And then the number two was like, there's like 50, there's like 50 guitar players that I could pick.
Sebastian (22:47.4)
You should. You should take a look at it and see.
Sebastian (23:09.273)
Yeah.
Michael (23:11.756)
Like, and then if I leave off like Jimi Hendrix, like, well, that's my problem. Or, you know, like.
Sebastian (23:18.762)
Jimi Hendrix is an honorable mention for me.
Michael (23:21.406)
He is insane. I think same with Eddie. Eddie.
Sebastian (23:23.904)
Let's just talk about Jimmy and Eddie specifically right now, because we're talking our personal favorite top five, right? I understand that people are probably screaming at us saying Jimmy Hendrix is the greatest guitarist ever in the history of guitar. I respect what he's done as a guitarist. He's a sloppy guitarist. Let's let's get that cat out of the bag right away. But he was pretty much on stuff the whole time he was performing because the 70s, 60s. Yeah.
Michael (23:26.446)
Okay, right now, let's do it.
personnel. Yes.
Michael (23:38.584)
Sure, yes.
Of
Michael (23:47.192)
The whole time. I think that was kind of the point to his music was the slop and done, you know, one take and it's just, okay, good enough. There wasn't, maybe he just didn't think he had time, which you probably, yeah.
Sebastian (23:55.389)
Yeah.
Sebastian (23:59.614)
That's why they're honorable mentions for me and maybe for Mike, I don't know. like, especially with Eddie Van Halen, we were never in that world of music. Like I respect Van Halen massively, but there was very synthy glam rocky type thing. And Mike and I are not glam rocker enjoyers for the most part. We're not like, yeah, go ahead.
Michael (24:09.921)
No.
Michael (24:16.736)
No, there's a couple like there's handfuls of songs of Van Halen that I love, but
Sebastian (24:22.57)
Should he be on a top five list? Absolutely. Is he on our top five list? No, but ours is subjective based on what we like. Yeah.
Michael (24:24.576)
Should he be, no, should he be one A or one B to Jimmy? Yes, but not on our list, he's not, so, yeah.
Sebastian (24:32.734)
Having said that, I'm just pumping extreme tires and they're pretty glam rocky too, that's walking contradiction Seb here over here over here.
Michael (24:39.81)
Yeah. Okay. So yeah. Right. So, okay. So we got, we got the two elephants out of the room, Eddie and Jimmy. are on a list. They're just not on this one.