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Episode 80 – Soundtracks That Outshine the Movie 🎬🎶

Michael Heide and Sebastian Kwapich Episode 80

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This week on Mandatory Music, we’re diving into soundtracks that are way better than the movies they came from! From the hard-hitting riffs of Maximum Overdrive and the electronic brilliance of Tron: Legacy, to Ares, Last Action Hero, Blue Hawaii, and plenty more — we’re breaking down the albums that made mediocre movies unforgettable. Tune in for a fun, nostalgic, and music-filled discussion that proves sometimes the soundtrack steals the show!

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Good evening. Welcome to Mandatory Music, the show where passion meets power chords. I am Mike, your host. 


I'm here with Sebastian, as always. Hello. Hey, we're going to take you deep into the world of rock and metal, breaking down tracks, bands, and everything in between. 


And I just did something to the sound, but that is okay. We're still learning. Well, take your finger off the button, dum-dum.


But with all that said, we're adding a new wrinkle. We're adding movies. Yes.


Specifically soundtracks to our repertoire of stuff. Yes, we are. So we had the great idea. 


Why not talk about soundtracks that are way better than the actual movie? Because there are so many movies out there where the movie is a gigantic turd. It'd be too easy to do great soundtracks, great movies, because I have about 100 of them in my mind. I can say Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump right off the top of my head.


Right off of it. There you go. Right out of the gate.


See, there's three. Yeah. It's funny they're all from the 90s. 


Funny how that works. But there's a lot of crap, especially in the 90s, of amazing movies or crappy movies with soundtracks that are out of this world. So yeah, that's what we're going to talk about tonight.


But terrible movies with amazing soundtracks. Yes. Before we get to that, did you happen to watch any of the Rock Hall stuff? Because I did not.


I did not either. I read a bunch of stuff. Soundgarden got in and they had Taylor Momsen come out and play.


And one of Chris's daughters sang. And then I think his other daughter sang Fell on Black Days by herself. Oh, amazing.


That's a great song. Oh, dude, is it ever. With him passing, Chris Cornell, and I'll echo this with Ozzy Osbourne as well when we watched the concert.


Sure. Don't you think like his new songs or his songs just take on an entirely new meaning for you? Yeah. You know what? He was suffering with depression and he was unhappy a lot of the times.


Absolutely. And so like you can feel that in his songs now. And like when watching the Ozzy performance, he knew he didn't have long. 


He knew he had a lot less time than people realize because I mean, he passed a few weeks after the concert. Two weeks or something. Yeah. 


So he was like, I'm just holding on so I can do this concert. And then he just let go after that. And then there he goes.


Yes, absolutely. Yeah. It's just interesting.


It is. Yeah. I didn't see much of anything else. 


I just. Busy and just I just. Yeah, same.


And the only thing that came up on any of my feeds was Soundgarden stuff. So like everybody else kind of got like just pushed to the side and it was like, all right. Yeah. 


I mean, we did talk about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But for me, it just there's I don't want to say it's missing star power because it does have star power, but it's kind of missing that like, you know, the previous year had like Ozzy Osbourne, that like mega icon. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know.


We probably don't need to get into that again. You know what I mean? Oh, Mike, I think you muted yourself. I can't hear you.


Can you hear me now? Oh, I can hear you now. Sorry about that. That's okay.


Interesting. Interestingly, all the big four of grunge, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, right? Three of them are in. One is not. 


That is Alice in Chains. Like I kind of think personally, I'm still learning. I kind of think Alice in Chains should have gone in before Pearl Jam.


Definitely before Soundgarden. I think so. I think Alice in Chains' reach and influence is probably a little greater.


I think it's hard, right? Because Alice in Chains was... They'll get in. Yeah, I'm thinking the next two years. They'll get in.


Right. They'll probably get in. When did Nirvana get in? I don't know.


It's kind of crazy to think that they've only done three albums. They're in the Hall of Fame. I'm pretty sure Janis Joplin is in and she only did one.


Yeah, she is great though. That album was great and she died before it came out. What a shame.


Anyways, enough of this death and stuff. So, shitty movies, amazing soundtracks. Yes.


I'm going to let you go first. Okay. Blow my mind, son.


Well, I'm going to start off with this one. And to be fair, I have not seen the movie. Okay.


But when you broached this topic originally a couple days ago, this literally was the first thing I thought of. All right. Because I've heard this so many times in my life.


Okay. So, there's an Elvis Presley movie called Blue Hawaii, which is an absolutely terrible movie apparently. But the soundtrack is amazing. 


It's all Elvis. Yeah, it's like an Elvis album, right? And the famous song that he does is I Can't Help Falling In Love. Everyone's heard that.


I can't help falling in love with you. Elvis? That's where it comes from. Elvis? Where are you? I just heard Elvis.


So, that is the obvious outlier because a lot of people will be like, yeah, this movie is terrible. But the soundtrack is a 10 out of 10 if you're an Elvis fan. If you're an Elvis fan, which I honestly have never really... I haven't seen a single Elvis movie.


But apparently people do realize he became an actor later on in his career. He started a metric ton of movies as himself. And Blue Hawaii was one that did not go over very well.


But from terms of soundtrack purposes, it's all Elvis songs, right? But amazing, amazing, amazing album. It's kind of fun to go back and watch because from time to time, we have a channel on our TV. A camera, what it's called, it's like silver screen.


We were watching, I think it was a version of Frankenstein. And it's Christopher Lee was Frankenstein. The monster.


The Christopher Lee. Count Dooku himself. Saruman, Saruman the White, Count Dooku.


And who was the doctor? It was Grand Moff Tarkin. From A New Hope. Amazing.


They seem to work together all the time, don't they? Well, I guess he wouldn't have been in the ones that Christopher Lee was in. But yeah. No, but it was just funny that I'm like, hey, that's Tarkin.


And I'm like, oh my God, that's Count Dooku. Anyway, so yeah, we like watching old movies too. And I think I might put some Elvis movies on my list of things to watch.


You know, it's funny. I watched Citizen Kane a couple of years ago. I've never seen it.


But it's arguably like the number one movie of all time by a lot of people's list. So does it still hold up today? Well, no, obviously not. But the reason why people put it so high up is that it was doing things 30, 40, 50 years ahead of its time.


Like in how it was filmed with like, you know, the camera. Because prior to that, everything was just on stationary cameras. It was static, right? Yeah, they actually had like cameras that would like go through a window, you know.


And they like had all these creative ways of manipulating the camera, which was like 40 years before its time. So that's awesome. Yeah.


But anyways, okay. Give me one of yours. I'm going to give you one because it's a movie I watched when I was a kid.


Okay. And I had the soundtrack on compact disc. So did you ever see the movie Maximum Overdrive? No.


Stephen King, I believe it's a short story about basically trucks, semi trucks that come alive. He's really aggressive, isn't it? Yes, he is. Yes.


And I've seen the trailers. Oh my God. I've not seen the movie.


It's so bad. And then, and then, so, so that one came out with, I'll talk to the soundtrack in a minute, just to give some history. And then Stephen King made his own version and he directed it.


And I'm like, watch this. Oh, it's gotta be bad. Oh, it was even worse.


Wait, they made two movies? Yeah, the same movie, two versions. He did that with the Shining too. I believe so.


Yes. And apparently Stephen King's version is terrible. Of course it is.


Yeah. Because he wanted to follow his actual story. So I'm assuming the, I haven't read the short story.


I've read a ton of Stephen King, but I have not gotten to Maximum Overdrive. But the soundtrack to Maximum Overdrive is a greatest hits of ACDC. Oh, amazing.


Hey, that's where... Who Made Who? My favorite ACDC album. Yeah. Yeah.


I have listened to death that album, for sure. Yeah. So side one is Who Made Who, track one.


Great song. It honestly is a great song. You Shook Me All Night Long.


DT, which is instrumental. Sink the Pink for Fly on the Wall. Ride On, which honestly is probably my favorite ACDC song.


Dirty Deeds, because I am a Bon Scott guy. And then side two was Hell's Bells. Shake Your Foundations from Fly on the Wall.


What an amazing album. Chase the Ace. Just that one album, yeah.


And for those about to rock. Don't you think that Who Made Who is like a precursor to Thunderstruck? Oh, absolutely. Like if you actually listen to Angus Young's lead, it's like exactly like Thunderstruck.


It is literally Thunderstruck. Yeah. Except Thunderstruck is more up front in this.


Yeah. And then Who Made Who is like, it's more melodic. And it's sort of, it's set back in the mix because you can hear more of the song.


Actually, I never thought of putting the two together. That's interesting. Because ACDC has never been known for making, you know.


Diverse music? What are you talking about? I don't know. Like the most diverse band on the planet. Absolutely.


But you know, that begs the question. We should one day, we should have a little debate of if you're a Brian Johnson or Bon Scott guy. I can answer that right now.


No, don't say it. It's Brian Scott. No, Brian Johnson.


You can't have both. You can't do both. I think Brian Johnson is technically a better singer, but Bon Scott made ACDC.


Yeah. Right. He had that like.


He was the heartbeat. Yeah. Brian Johnson kind of had like the technical, I'm going to like, he was more like percussive and precision in terms of his voice.


And Bon Scott was more flowy and fluid and like willing to go to these different spaces. Right. He was more, he was more loose, which is a good thing.


Right. So it is a good thing. I just sounded more comfortable.


Yeah. I love Bon's voice. I love the sound of the band of pre-Mutlang too.


I just love that unpolished sort of. Anyways, whatever. So there goes that episode.


Nevermind. Um, okay, son. Okay.


So I actually really liked this movie, but review wise, it's terrible. And this is an incredible soundtrack and we're talking about last action hero. Okay.


You stole one of mine. I knew you could have it. Well, come on.


It's like the most obvious one in the world. I had to say it though, but it's so, it's so impactful. It's a hard rock metal.


Amazing soundtrack. More ACDC, right? ACDC, Alice in Chains, Megadeth, Queensryche, Death Leopard, Anthrax, Aerosmith, Alice in Chains, Blind Melon, Fishbone, Tesla. Even our friend, Michael Kamen.


Yes. With Buckethead. And then he did.


Oh, I didn't realize Buckethead. So there's a song called Jack the Ripper, which I cannot remember, but it's the last song on the, on the one side. It's Michael Kamen with Buckethead, instrumental theme from the film Score.


So I guess that's like. Yeah. And then there's a B side to it, which is all Michael Kamen stuff from the, from.


Oh, I guess you did the sound. I've never heard the B side. Yeah.


I've never heard that. I have neither. Because I was doing.


Oh, interesting. Yeah. But like, Odyssey, Big Gun.


Amazing, amazing ACDC song. Classic ACDC song. Sounds like any one of their hits.


It sounds like ACDC. It's not like re-inventing the wheel. Yeah.


Nope. Also, Angry Again, which is low key, an amazing Megadeth song. I'm shocked that never made it onto a record.


Well, they wrote it for this specifically, right? Was it? Oh, was it? I thought it was a leftover from, uh, from Countdown. It might, uh. This has kind of got Countdown vibes to it.


I just, what I always thought. I don't know. Well, it says from chat, GBT recorded exclusively from the soundtrack.


Also nominated for a Grammy. Interesting. Angry Again.


What's the other song that the Megadeth did for a soundtrack? Why can't I remember it? Oh, uh, they did 99 Ways to Die. Oh, that, 99 Ways to Die. Yeah.


Yeah. Yeah. There was another one where they ripped off Enter Sandman.


They did the, the prayer in the middle. And Dave made fun of that. He's like, uh, now I lay myself down to sleep and blah, blah, blah.


He's just like, dude, come on. Get over yourself. There's a, yeah.


What's the name of that song? I'm not saying the Megadeth do for soundtracks. Chat, GBT is a great thing. Oh, I don't know what you're talking about.


Oh, they did No More Mr. Nice Guy. Oh yeah. From Shocker, the movie Shocker.


Terrible movie. What? Come on, Shocker is so good. Go to Hell.


Oh, Go to Hell is the one with the prayer in it. Yeah. That's a good song.


Actually, that's a good song. It's heavy as hell. Actually, Dave, you know what? Their, their soundtrack songs are really good.


Did they do Die? Was Die a Dems? Is that a song? Yes. So Go to Hell, Angry Again, 99 Ways to Die, Breakpoint. Also a great song from the Super Mario Brothers movie.


And Die a Dems is from Tales from the Crypt. And then a bunch of stuff they used from actual, um, songs that, but they didn't write specifically for soundtrack. They were featured on their albums.


Oh, okay. Yeah. So yeah, 99 Ways to Die.


That's what I was thinking of actually. Yeah. But yeah.


And anyways, great, great soundtrack. I'm sorry I stole one from you, but. No, no, that's fine.


Yeah, I do. I'm going to, I haven't, okay. I'm going to, uh, I'm going to combine two into one.


Do it. Because they're two sequels to one of my most beloved movies. Obviously when we were kids, Tron was like, it was like Tron.


It was like the one movie. And then the first one flopped, whatever. And then they brought up Tron Legacy in 2010.


It also flopped. And then Tron Ares, which I have not seen yet. Which apparently it's flopping.


It flopped. But I think it's, it's still in the process of flopping. But hey, listen, anytime you put Jared Leto in a movie, you know, it's going to flop, right? He hasn't done a great movie since what the Dallas Buyers Club, I think was the last time he did an incredible acting job.


Now he's just too into himself as a cult leader, apparently. So I'm, I'm, I, yes, the cult. Yeah, well, it's allegedly, it's, it's there's rumors, rumors to be had.


So Tron Legacy, 2010 Daft Punk did the soundtrack. I remember that. Yeah.


And it's just, if you like, if you like that type of music, which I love like instrumental sort of electronic music. Very good. It's very, very good.


And then this year Nine Inch Nails put music and it's, it's really good. Like I'm not the biggest Nine Inch Nails guy. I like a couple songs, but since it is a soundtrack that kind of spaced out, like there's a banger and then there's all this ambient stuff.


Then there's another cool song, more ambient stuff, another cool song. And it's, it's a fabulous soundtrack. It's like to drive to, to work out to whatever, whatever you enjoy.


But yeah, I'm not going to watch Tron Ares because I'm not going to support, sorry, Disney. I'm not, I'm not doing it. You got me with Legacy.


I really enjoyed Legacy. I thought it was really good. And then the new one, like.


I think it would be good just for visuals. I mean, the story is probably crap, but like just watching the trailer for it, like it looks awesome. Like it actually looks really good.


But when the first lines are, it was filmed for IMAX and Nine Inch Nails did the soundtrack, you know, you're in trouble. Yeah. When they don't talk anything else, but hey, this is going to be a spectacle to look at.


I have a hot take here. Oh, hot take. I have a hot take.


I'm going to share it with you. And this is something I've believed in for and just kind of off topic, but not really. This is kind of something I've believed in for the last decade or so.


If you watch a movie trailer and you see a lot of the best parts of the movie trailer or you see like a complete story in the movie trailer, the story is shit. Oh yeah. But if you watch a trailer and you have no idea what the movie is about, the movie is going to be phenomenal.


Bingo. Because they don't, they believe in their products so much that they don't reveal too much in the trailer. If the product is bad, they have to basically go, well, we got to kind of tell the story so we can get people in to watch the story.


Right. Just think about the matrix, for example, is my prime example. The only thing I saw of the matrix when the first trailer came out was him dodging bullets on top of the building.


And you're like. In bullet time. And you're like, what am I watching? Yeah.


Right. Right. So, and I wanted to go see it immediately.


And I had no idea what the story was. Incredible movie. Probably one of the most groundbreaking movies I've ever watched in my life.


Back in the day, I think it was in 99 when I watched it. Yeah. That's when it came out.


It was like, right. It like, well, the matrix hit like perfect storm. Right.


Dude, I remember my job was on the floor watching that whole, like when, when he takes the, I can't remember if it's the red or blue pill, but whatever pill he takes to. I think it's your red pill. And then you take the blue pill and you wake up in the morning.


You take both. But like when that whole secret, I was like, what is going on? Right. Yeah.


Yeah. But anyways. Yeah.


So I'm going to go with a double dose of Tron because Daft Punk is. Awesome. They're good.


They're good. Absolutely. Okay.


So I have a bit of an interesting one. Okay. So again, I didn't have a problem with this movie when I saw it initially, but I guarantee you, if I watched it now, it would be really bad.


And the soundtrack for this is super interesting to me. So is it the best soundtrack from a movie? No, not necessarily. But what the soundtrack really did was try to blend metal with like hip hop or metal with.


Are you taking my other one? You. I'm talking spawn. Oh, you're not.


Okay. Okay. So they did a fusion of like techno and electric with like metal.


They tried. They tried. And you got to give them props for trying, but the soundtrack works for the movie specifically.


Right. So they really nailed what they were trying to achieve. Is some of this stuff the greatest songs you're ever going to hear? No, but it does have like filter with the crystal method on one song.


It has Marilyn Manson with a sneaker pimps on another one. Kirk Hammett plays the guitar for a band called Orbital. Korn is with the Dust Brothers.


Butthole Surfers is with Moby. So they pair up Metallica with DJ Spooky. They do a For Whom The Bell Tolls mix on there.


So, you know, it's Prodigy is there with Tom Morello. Silver Chairs. There's Vitro.


Henry Rollins is on there. Incubus is on there. So there's a lot of great artists.


You know, not all of them hit, but it is pretty good, man. That's interesting. Yeah.


Which I remember because I was such a Metallica homer. I bought that soundtrack going. Oh, my God.


That's a different version. Was it For Whom The Bell Tolls? What am I listening to? And I put it in because at that time, my mind was very closed off to anything that wasn't guitars and normal stuff. And it was just like, what the hell is this? And I tried so hard.


I tried. I tried so hard to like it, but it's not. It's just not good.


You know, honestly, I think that For Whom The Bell Tolls is the worst track on the album. It is. It didn't work.


Because they tried to electrify it into like a dance, hard trance song. But I mean, it is an album that has a specific reason for why they're doing the songs that way, because it fits in with the mood and the feeling of the story, right? So it's almost like you're listening to the score of the movie. But like when the director, I can't remember who directed Spawn, but he had a vision about how he wanted the mood to feel like.


And he wasn't Todd McFarlane was the guy who made. He created Spawn, but I don't think he directed it. No, he couldn't have.


So he could have done anything he wanted to, but he could have. Yeah. I'm just gonna look up the director.


I was just doing that. Michael J. White's the lead guy in it, too. That guy.


Yeah, I remember that. That guy's legit like an uber martial artist. I don't think people realize how amazing he is at martial arts.


It's some guy named Mark. I am going to butcher this. D-Pay.


He was a special effects supervisor. Come on, dude. Stay in your lane.


Don't direct movies. Movie wasn't that bad. But I mean, I guarantee if I watch it now, I'll be like, ah, it's bad.


There's rumors there's making another one. Oh, apparently the new Street Fighter is supposed to be legit. No, that's what I've heard.


It's going to be awful. No, I think they're actually doing like a serious movie. No, they're not.


So with 50 Cent as a guy in the movie, no, they're not. That comedian is like Andrew Schultz is in it, too, because he plays like Ken's sidekick. So he was in an interview saying like he was there for two months filming because he's in a major he's in a lot of the movie because he's with Ken.


You know, like I don't want to say anything about wrestling, but when you got wrestlers and 50 Cent playing your main, well, they're doing it for clout, right? They're doing it for to sell it because, you know, you put in Cody Rhodes, you put in Roman Reigns, you put in 50 Cent, you put all these guys in. People are just going to watch it because they're in it, right? I think it's like showing the whole trailer or the whole movie in the trailer. It's not going to be good.


Yeah, it might be. We'll see. I'm hopeful.


It's going to be trash. All right. Give me one.


Oh, my God. I had it. Oh, yeah.


Okay. So in 2010, do concert films count? I think they should. Sure.


So I think it was 2010, 12, whatever. Metallica attempted to make a movie. And I see where you're going with this because we went and saw the filming of the of the concert.


And did you ever watch the movie? I didn't even freaking think about. Yeah, I did watch the movie, but I didn't even think about that. No.


But yeah, you're so spot on. Oh, my God. The movie is awful.


Like, it is awful. Like, it's like, what? Like, who signs off on this? I'll tell you why. It's awful.


But go ahead. Okay. Yeah.


Anyways, the movie is stupid and it's absolutely pointless, except for the very end when Ding Dong walks into the empty stadium and they're playing Orion. Oh, my God. Now that's now we're talking.


That's the best ending to a movie. But the soundtrack is basically Metallica's true greatest hits, more or less, and them playing live. And when we saw them, they were actually trying.


Like, it was like they gave her. That's one thing I took away from that 2012 show is they gave. Those three shows, they're like, we need to step up because they played hard.


They played fairly flawless. And the intensity was like it was spot on. But anyways, the movie is called Through the Never, and I don't even know where you can find it nowadays.


I'm pretty sure I own it. It's probably on some streaming service. It's gotta be somewhere.


But the movie is rather pointless. And well, it fails as a movie because there really isn't a story to it. No, there's the main character, Dane, whatever.


Dane DeHaan was the main guy. Most people probably know him from whatever that City of a Thousand Planets movie is, whatever that was. Yeah, he was in some.


Yeah, he's in that with Cara Delevingne or whatever name is that model. Yeah, that's actually a really good movie. I mean, it is what it is.


It wasn't rated very well. I enjoyed it. It's very visual.


I think ratings are subjective, right? It is. Well, you like different things than I do, and I like different things than you do. But the problem is the whole movie plays out like a modern art piece, right? There's a lot of things that don't make sense.


And when you're watching a movie and you watch a story unfold, you want to start putting pieces together. But when those pieces don't fit into the right pieces, you're just left confused, and not in a good way. Because you can be confused in a movie, but you need some sort of resolution, right? And so I feel like they just missed their mark because they didn't really know what to do with it.


They're just like, well, we want to do a concert film, but we also want a story in it. But then we also want the concert part. But then we also want it to have some kind of horseman of the apocalypse because we're doing a four horsemen and that kind of stuff.


Well, it's an apocalyptic movie, but then it's not. And then this guy goes on an assignment throughout the city of New York or wherever it's supposed to be. But it keeps smash cutting back to Metallica every couple of seconds.


So it's just like, what am I actually watching here? Because he was sent out on an errand to get something. Well, the rumor is it's Cliff Burton's soul. Yes, that's kind of what I've heard too.


But they don't tell you that. And there's nothing in the movie that explains anything. It's just a bunch of visual things that are supposed to be themed to a lot of Metallica songs.


Right. But when you just do something like that, you're just throwing shit on a wall. Excuse my language, but like there's no thread line between everything.


You're just kind of like watching like a confused mess. Yeah. Right.


Like the concert part of Metallica was great. Like watching them play. Fantastic.


You know, and I didn't even mind like what they were trying to achieve. They just missed them. It looks like a two hour music video.


Really? Yeah. Because it's one long music video. And maybe that's what they were going for.


But yeah, that's a that's actually a good one. Yeah. Well, you could probably say the same about the song remains the same.


But that's that one's completely different. It's not really it's not a concert film. It's like there's interludes of each member doing weird stuff.


And that's that's kind of that. But yeah, I just I just figured I'd throw it in. That's a good one.


Because the movie is probably one of the worst movies. You know, of this century. Let's go.


Let's go. I have I have one more. Do it.


And there's millions more. There are millions. There is.


But I'm going to leave it with this one. And then if you have another one, you can add it in after that. But this kind of helped.


Revitalize Seal's music career. And we're talking Batman forever. Oh, man, I didn't even think of the Batman movie forever.


Terrible movie soundtrack. I mean, I had Seal Kiss from a Rose, right? I had you hold me, throw me, kiss me, kill me. Which that song is awesome.


That's such a good song. Massive attack. Massive attack is in it.


And I don't know. You're probably not a massive attack, man. I don't I like them.


I don't mind them. That's a good one. Offspring is in it as well.


With Method Man is in it. Michael Hudson from In Excess does a song on their flaming lips are on there. It's a good soundtrack.


And it's often around to being like a phenomenal soundtrack. But yeah, Kiss from a Rose. That's like the song that kind of... That would be so good.


That's a great song, by the way. It's a great song. Yeah.


Nicole Kidman was in that one, right? Is that the one with Poison Ivy? No, that's for Batman and Robin. This is the one with the Riddler and Arnold. Yeah, stick around, Mr. Freeze.


Okay. So the entire... Because I watched the video on this. The entire dialogue for Mr. Freeze, for Arnold Schwarzenegger, his entire dialogue through the entire movie is cold and ice puns.


Oh, yeah. Every line is like some kind of variation of like chill out or... Even when he's being serious about his frozen wife in the bathtub. It's like this is too much, man.


I know. It's something else. I can remember going to the theater and waiting for... Because I was a huge... I loved Batman back in the day when I was a kid.


And so 97 rolls around and Batman and Robin's coming. And of course, the internet wasn't really a thing. Like it just... It wasn't... So he... Not in 95.


I mean, it was, but it wasn't like... Yeah, right. You were still using dial-up. And so in 97, I was madly in love with Uma Thurman.


So I'm like, Poison Ivy, this doesn't get any better than this. Go see the movie. I'm super... We lined up.


I lined up early because you had to line up. You couldn't pick your seat. So I lined up to get my good seats.


And within like 30 seconds, I'm like, what the hell am I watching? Like it was... And it hasn't grown on me. Like aside from Uma Thurman being amazing and beautiful, the movie is god-awful. Like... The problem with what they did with the third and fourth one is that they took what Batman is supposed to be and turned it into this colorful cartoon.


They made it like the 60s TV show. Batman is supposed to be dark, dreary in the shadows. It's supposed to be like moody.


And they turned it into this freaking paint-by-numbers disaster that is just egregiously colorful. And when they came out on the glow-in-the-dark paint on roller skates or whatever, or roller blades, like what the heck? I know. And then the whole ice skating with the hockey.


And you're like, seriously, what are we watching? Yeah. But I will give it one thing. The motif of the movie is like that sort of 30s futuristic look.


I really dig that kind. Like the art deco, I guess they would call it. I really dig the look.


But the rest of the movie was crap. Even the Lego Batman movie is 10 times the movie. Never watched it.


Oh my god. Apparently it's good. It is.


Apparently it's good. Dude, you honestly...

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