Robin Vieira Brower Signs with Oiselle

Big news meets bigger mountains. We sit down with Robin Vieira Brower to unpack her dual signing with Oiselle—as a professional athlete and the brand’s director of marketing—and explore how one decision can reset what’s possible for women in endurance sport. Robin opens up about the timing, the “duality” behind the announcement, and why showing the whole athlete matters just as much as splitting seconds on course.

We trace Oiselle's roots back to 2007, their return to trail, and a fresh strategy that prioritizes the moments around the moment: training blocks, travel days, recovery, motherhood, injury, and everything that shapes a race without showing up on the results sheet. Instead of slicing the sport into road, track, trail, or gravel, the focus is on gear that flexes with a woman’s life—fit, function, and feel that actually move with her from strides to summits. Robin explains how athlete voices are baked into product cycles that stretch to 2028, and why that long view is essential for meaningful innovation.

If skyrunning still sounds mysterious, prepare to get hooked. Robin lays out what makes these courses so electric—steep vert, technical ridges, and weather that turns tactics into art—then walks through a bold 2026 plan that balances the Skyrunner World Series with the U.S. regional circuit. We talk Whiteface, Beast of Big Creek, Kismet, and the tough calls when two great races land on the same weekend. Along the way, we get candid on the gravel boom, the value of athlete-led design, and the growing trend of pros taking real roles inside brands to build what comes after peak performance.

This is a story about clarity over hype, purpose over trend, and how a thoughtful career can climb as high as any skyline. If you care about skyrunning, trail culture, and better gear shaped by the people who test it at the limit, you’ll find a lot to love here. Subscribe, share with a training partner, and leave a quick review to help more runners discover the show.

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Transcript

Big News: Robin Joins Wazell

SPEAKER_01 0:00

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the Steep Stuff Podcast. I'm your host, James Loriello, and I'm so excited to welcome Robin Vieira Brouwer back to the show. This time with some really big news. Robin has signed with Wazell as a professional athlete on their team, as well as has become their director of marketing in a dual role, which is extremely exciting. Robin came on to break down this new chapter in her life and talk all about it. We talked a lot about the Wazel strategy and what it means going forward. We talked a lot about Skyrunning, as always. It got into uh Robin's calendar for 2026, which has changed a little bit with the announcement of some new series and all kinds of good stuff there. So without further ado, we'll hop into it. I hope you guys enjoy this one. Robin Vieira Brower joins Wazell. All right, Robin Vieira Brower. Welcome back to the show. How's it going?

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Good. Yeah, it's going well. Thanks for having me back.

Showing The Whole Athlete

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Yeah, yeah. I feel like we've got some not so breaking news, yet breaking news that I feel like we we got to talk about here. You are uh joining the Wazel team. This is super exciting.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Yeah, thanks. Yeah. I'm um it's been a long time building, I guess you could say, but it it feels like it's one of those things where it, you know, I I wouldn't have been able to plan it out any more perfectly as far as alignment and just when it happened and all that stuff. So I'm super psyched.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Oh, I love it. I love it. I love their announcement of it too. I feel like it it got not just into you as the athlete, but you as the professional as well. Like there was this like uh little like reel of you like uh talking to um, I guess like in a meeting. And I was like, oh, this is this is really neat. It it shows you as a multidimensional person and not just as an athlete. And I I like how brands or this specifically brand brand with Wazelle is highlighting that and um yeah, just not not just talking about the athletics, but talking about things outside of that as well.

Inside The Dual Role Decision

SPEAKER_00 3:00

Yeah, that was um it's funny, I'll be honest. I'm hoping, I'm hoping I can like reveal the curtain a little bit because I think talking about this stuff, you know, athlete sponsorships and whatnot, it can be um, I mean, sometimes there's there's just a lot that goes on behind the curtain, I think. And now in this dual role um as marketing director and professional athlete for Wazel, there's we're a small team, we're a small athlete team and we're a small team as a company. So it was funny when that uh when that post or announcement was being created. Um my chief brand and product officer had all these ideas of how to like introduce the side of me as a marketing director and then introduce the side of me as an athlete. And it was just we kept coming back to that concept of duality. And you know, there's so many. Um we're all multi-dimensional people, obviously, but there's so much that goes on behind behind being the athlete and behind all the hours spent training. And so yeah, it felt like a fun hybrid. I mean, that is my that is my day-to-day. I'm sitting at that desk right now and I just was having a meeting very similar to that one in the announcement post.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I gotta ask you this. So this is this is interesting to me. Like what came first? More the search for the marketing role or the search for the athlete role? And like, how did how did this come about?

Wazell’s Legacy And Trail Return

SPEAKER_00 4:28

Yeah. Um, well, I found out about Wazelle a handful of years ago as an athlete. There was a little um, or not little, but a women's elite running team here in Bend called Little Wing. And I just it was just like cemented in my brain as like that's that's so cool. It's such a I mean, this was a while ago, and like women's run clubs were definitely a thing, but um maybe less like common than they are now. And so to answer your question, the the the marketing role came first, but they started happening around the same time. I mean, how it how it happened was like last time you and I talked, I was a free agent. I didn't have you know an apparel sponsor, and then we were heading in, I was heading into season or heading into pre-season before season started. And I had um, I was having a couple conversations with some brands, and I had a couple handful of good results last season and was like in conversation with some brands. Um and at the same time, this marketing position had come about, which is a different story. Like I was not seeking, I was not seeking this role when it first um came about. So that's a different story. But I realized that uh my perfect world, like my golden scenario, was kind of right in front of my eyes, and I just hadn't really seen it yet. But that truly is to be to marry both me as an athlete and me as a as a creative. I think we talked about this last time a little bit, but um Wazel has uh always been in trail, but has taken a couple of years like hiatus, I guess you could say. And now we're headed back into trail. Um and so it just everything kind of started happening at once. I mean, I didn't a lot of people have, I think their sites, excuse me, their sites set on like one pinnacle brand or something like that for their ideal sponsorship. Um, and I had those, of course, but Wazelle was on my radar. But um, like all these conversations just kind of happened so naturally, slowly.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

I think it's super cool. I mean, they popped onto the scene for me a few years ago when uh Ali Osterman had signed with them. I feel like that was their on the as far as the trails slash kind of track go. That's I guess was their first, I guess, I don't know, to the mainstream or to people like me that somewhat follow this stuff. That was kind of the first uh showing for me. And I was like, oh, this is really cool. Like they make great stuff. Like I and I love how um you know they've really like bolstered out their athlete, uh kind of their their athlete group since then, which has been very cool. And they've got like a small little little dip in trails, which is cool. And with you, I feel like now there's a little little segue into sky running, which is is even cooler.

Educating The World On Skyrunning

SPEAKER_00 7:33

So yeah, yeah, it's cool. There's I mean, they've got such a the brand has been around since 07. Um, and then there's been some like roller coasters of success and then kind of workshopping some growth areas over the past years. But was I was one of the first, like if not the first, um, brand to do women's running like differently back then, like 07. To me, that doesn't feel like that long ago, but then I have to stop and think like that actually was kind of a while ago. Um but this was, you know, kind of around the time when some of those other big name brands were trying to figure out how to market to women or make product back then, like it was a big deal to not shrink it and pink it, so to speak. And Wazell just did things differently and um like had some legend, legendary women, Olympians on their roster, like pro marathonners, and then some really strong cross-country runners, too. And um, yeah, bringing on Allie was huge for the trail world and also also just like we're really focusing on just the multidimensional athlete. She doesn't have to be only track or only trail or only road, um, which I think is pretty cool because like I think so many of us cross over into different territories, but for skyrunning, um there's a lot of there's a lot of education to be done. I mean, skyrunning's so niche to begin with. Like so many people who run trail are like just learning about skyrunning, which is awesome. But when it comes to yeah, Wazelle, I mean, my favorite part about the team is everyone's so open to to to product feedback and and learning about these different like niche markets and opportunities and trail and road and everything in between. So um I'm super excited. There's a ton of product innovation work that's being done right now that like won't show itself until probably 2028. But um, it's super cool to be a part of that process and one of the athletes being involved in that product redesign process for um all the different types of running. Um but obviously also cool to be in the marketing side, building the campaigns and storytelling around it too.

Product Design And Athlete Input

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Yeah. I mean, if that's one thing like you are amazing at, like I think you're that's one thing I I really talked about in our last conversation where I was like, you do such a good job at being able to convey your story. Like you talk about like when you're on the track, you talk about you just had a race this past was it this past weekend? It was not too long. I think it was yeah. You know that yeah. Yeah, I don't know weekends. Two weekends ago, my bad. Um you just you're just very good at conveying your stories, and I and I and it's such a professional level that I think that that crosses over extremely well, not just as you as the athlete, but you as the storyteller. One thing I was gonna say too that I find super interesting, and I think this is maybe the future of the sport in a lot of ways, is we're seeing more and more athletes in these dual roles where you have athletes like David Laney with Kraft, um, where he's both a professional athlete and he's working internally with like shoe design. Anton Kropitschka is another one of Sportiva. So we're starting to see more of these dual roles where athletes are obviously competing at a high level, but also getting to shine internally, you know, at these brands. And it and I think too, because um, you know, it on the athletic side, careers are relatively short, right? Relatively speaking, but you have all this life to give after the fact. And so it really just helps set up a career for a lot of athletes on what they can do after they're done competing, which I think is so cool. And you know, I gotta tip my cap to any brand that does that because uh a lot of times it's you know, you have your contract, you finish your contract, and then it's you know, goodbye, see you later. Um, but the fact that like you are able to have this role and a lot of other athletes are able to do something similar is uh very encouraging for the future of our sport.

Dual Careers And Life After Sport

SPEAKER_00 11:34

Yeah, I mean, I could I could not agree more. I'm super been super impressed as well by the amount of brands that are starting to build space for that duality. Um and it's it's so necessary. Like, like you just said, you know, whether you're a man or a woman competing, your career at some point in professional running is going to change. And then what? But you have this like lifetime career and knowledge built that really only comes from being that close to the sport on like a super, super intimate level. And that's just a wealth of knowledge when it comes to product or development, um, you know, storytelling, being able to hit upon those like emotional narrative moments that athletes can relate to. Um, no matter what you know, level of athlete you are, is just critical. So I love to see other brands doing that too. And I'm super, super proud of um Wazelle and and and honestly proud of um Margot, who's our CEO and owner who just took a um has been having these conversations with me for a long time and trying to build, you know, the how. Being a small brand, there's everyone wears a ton of different caps, obviously. And and she's so busy and has 10 million things going on, but she prioritizes things that truly matter. And our intention for this is to have this be a model not only for, you know, like me and my career, but for for other women too in the future. And I hope that other brands can see this um being done specifically for women, um, and see that there's, you know, a lot of different ways to work with work with our athletes beyond just the typical athlete retainer where they perform and train and all that stuff. Um, so yeah, for me it's it's always been about um, you know, what can I what can I do as an athlete on the performance side for sure. I have big goals there, like so many of us. But beyond that, what can I do to help, you know, create, carve the way and create the pathway for women, girls, girls and women in the future to be able to step into like their strongest self running professionally and know that there's a future for them beyond that. Because I think that's always kind of on our radars or like an area of concern, you know, like what happens when life changes or there's transitions that take place in a woman's life, like wanting to start a family, being a mom, or even just, you know, luckily we've we've got a while, I think, where our like endurance engine can go for quite a while, but after that, too, just creating more space and carving that path is super important to me.

Meaning Of The Contract And Goals

SPEAKER_01 14:31

I love that. That's a beautiful answer. And I and I I think like from a role model perspective, it shows so many women coming up in the sport that like this is possible and you can do you can do both, which is really cool. And I because I think you're kind of I mean, Magda Boulay, I think with goo, I mean and Hoka, like there's not too many women that work on the marketing side and also um you know are an athlete in their own right. So I think it's really cool to see you doing this. And you're you're a pioneer in a lot of ways, which I find very interesting. Um, let's talk, I want to pivot a little bit. Like, I don't know, I I find this very interesting. I asked myself the same question. I was actually thinking about this last night. Um, I was talking to a friend that uh signed a big contract. And you know, when you get what you want as far as success goes, it's like it's always you move the bar to like what's the next thing. How how does this contract and like becoming a professional athlete with with Wazelle, like how what does it mean to you? Like, uh do you are you already thinking about, you know, okay, how am I going to perform this year? Or have you been able to take a second and be like, well, this is a really this is a big step in my athletic career. This actually like really means something.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

I think yes to both somehow. Um I think I've been, you know, we're all so focused. I mean, I'm such a goal-oriented person. Like I think about my my goals for the year pretty much every day. Uh whether that's like a specific race goal or trying to figure out. I'm still kind of ironing out some details of my schedule, but I have been able to take a step back and appreciate it. I just, I mean, I feel enormous gratitude for both opportunities because they provide a sense of security and stability that is often like unknown for professional athletes that even if they're on like a multi-year retainer. Um, but then again, there's this is such a such a dynamic industry and one that is growing like crazy all the time. So right now I'm trying to exist in both like future, trying to, you know, plan for the growth of women's running, which we're already seeing, and how to show up for her in the future while also celebrating, remembering to celebrate like my success right now, while also balancing the goals and ambitions I have this year and beyond. But um it's a it's an interesting question. I probably don't spend enough time just slowing down and taking a minute to appreciate it. Um, because it is, yeah, for us like high achievers. I mean, you can relate to this probably. It's like, yeah, you set the bar here and then you get there, and then automatically the bar gets bumped up and you're like, well, wait, hold on a sec. But I think that goes back to the joy, like remembering that the joy and the reason, like the why for showing up for all this is truly it's I mean, it's heavily baked into the process. It's the classic cliche for runners, like when we, you know, race the race and let's say we get the podium or the result we want, you feel an inkling or more of of kind of disappointment because you've made it, you've achieved your goal, and so then then what? You always kind of move on to the next what's next. So I'm it's a constant, like constant reminder and juggle.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

It's interesting. Yeah, I find it so interesting. And I appreciate you being candid in that because like I don't know, like I think about it with friends and I think about it with myself. Like you you achieve things that like maybe five years ago you'd never thought you would. And then, but as of you right now, you're fixated on goals this summer and then beyond. And it's like you don't even stop to think about the fact that, like, oh my god, I just I did this, and like when you look back on it, it's like not so five years ago it would have been a massive deal. But right now it's like you know, you're still focused on other goals. It's funny how we are as people and as athletes, you know. I don't know, it's it's an interesting thing in society. I don't know, like we we as people always want to continue to push harder and and further and faster and and get better. And yeah, I don't know, it's an interesting thing.

Wazell HQ Vibes And Team Culture

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Yeah, it is. It is. I do I go so Wazel is based in Seattle and I go in from Bend once a month, which is nice to just have that time. And I think I think that helps me, like when I'm there with everybody, helps me remember to be present.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

Is it a cool like corporate HQ? Is it pretty dope?

Brand Strategy: Serving Her Transitions

SPEAKER_00 19:14

It is so not corporate. Well, obviously, we're a small, small team. It's a small office. Do you know where Green Lake is in Seattle? It's yeah, it's one of the like um more popular running areas in Seattle, but yeah, it's just like a humble office space on a second floor of a building, old Seattle building. Um like product everywhere, fabric everywhere. Um, couches, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Okay, all right. I like the vibe. That's cool. Yeah, I don't know how much you can give away in strategy. We kind of like touched on this a little bit in the beginning, but I I assume with trail running becoming like the biggest growing segment for everybody right now, is that is that kind of the push brand strategy-wise, or is it still to appeal to all women? Like from a strategy perspective, like what are you guys uh I guess kind of chasing now and in the future?

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, we're going through a pretty major like brand repositioning moment, which is exciting to be a part of as marketing director for sure, because like a big role that I play is shaping that with my team, but also super exciting to be going through that as an athlete and being one of the one of the boy the main voices um in the push for trail. But strategically, we are very much so focused on um kind of these like transition moments for female runners. And what that looks like is focusing on performance run, but making sure that we're figuring out ways to show up for her in all phases of her life around the race or high performance moment, whatever that may look like for her. So um with that, it's it's less about, at least right now, because we're still kind of shaping it, but it's less about having a clear divide between trail, gravel, road, track. It's less about that and more about um those transition moments in her life. And you know, you look at someone like Ali, and she's training, she's done Golden Trail. She's obviously competed at a very high level for track and road. And um, and then, you know, my training looks like gravel and track and road, but my like A-level races are sky running, which is a whole other category. But it's it's like no matter like rather than differentiating by terrain or like surface, it's more so about yeah, those transition moments and making sure the product, and this is what we're working on, can work for those different scenarios that a woman specifically. Goes through in her life as a runner.

The Gravel Debate And Segmentation

SPEAKER_01 22:02

I like that. I mean, it's it covers everything, you know. It's like and I think it's smart instead of just being, oh, we're we're pivoting to being a trail brand or we're pivoting to being a road brand, you know. I don't know. It's really interesting. Like with the podcast, I've had an opportunity to sit in on a lot of like and have a lot of interesting marketing calls with brands that just have like they're trying to figure out like what they are and they don't know. And it's like, oh my god, I figured you guys like knew what you were doing. Like, what are they? So I don't know. That's why I asked. No, not you specifically. I'm just saying this is just in in general. Like, um, I've sat in on some brand calls. I'm just like, this is really interesting. Like, I just figured like they they have an idea, but a lot of brands continue to pivot. So I don't know. I find it it's interesting stuff, and uh I appreciate you uh answering that. So very good.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

Yeah, for sure. I will also say something that I just chuckle at is like the rise. I mean, it was all over Tier E, the rise of uh I don't know what you think about this, but the just the gravel space as an entire category. Well, it makes sense. It's a perfect, there's a market opportunity, there's money to be made for making gravel specific products. But I was just, you know, like the the gravel specific running vest or the gravel-specific like sports bra, or it's just so funny how we're segmenting out by based on terrain. I mean, you can wear the same sports bra, whether you're running a marathon or a sky race, I'll be honest.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

So I was gonna ask you that because you did say the G-word, and I was like, I was gonna I was but that could be a whole nother podcast. Like, I feel like that's a conversation that like, yeah, it needs to be had because yes, you see, I mean, I've seen a lot of like Solomon's a great example. Ultra, everybody's coming out with a gr like a gravel shoe now that's like for dirt roads, and it's like, guys, like you can kind of wear any, you just wear a road shoe and you're gonna be okay. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, hey, if it sells, it sells. I I get it, you know. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

There's there's a hand, there's a big market for it, apparently. I mean, I think about cycling too, with you know, gravel bikes and all that stuff, but you're right, that is a whole other can of worms.

2026 Race Calendar And World Series

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Yeah, it's a whole, it's a whole thing. Um, I don't want to take too much of your time, but I do want to get into schedule. Last time we spoke, you kind of gave a rough schedule of some of the A goals you were targeting. Um, since then, a lot of calendars have been released, things have changed. Yeah. You've signed with a brand now. Uh what I guess have the A goals shifted at all? Maybe you just give a make a recap of like what you're thinking for this year.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Yeah, recap. So I'm still targeting the World Series, the Sky Runner World Series. Obviously, they've, you know, um I don't think we, yeah, I think we talked right before they released like their new point system and everything. So um more or less, my my year kind of ramps up and then gets crazy starting at the end of June. But my egg goes at the moment I have two competing eagles, which is fine. I'll figure it out. Um, one is World Series and one is the USA regional skyrunning series. I just listened, I was listening to your podcast about will sky running survive in the US and I was chuckling it like yeah, it is catchy and relevant. Um so I'm gonna be competing, I think, in all four races for the USA series. Super stoked to have that here um on US soil, and then also focused on the world series, and I think I've I think I've worked it out to where I can I can do both, but we'll see. Um so I have just some couple, you know, some like fun prep races leading up to that. Um as of now um in April I'm racing Gorge Waterfalls 30k as like a fun, speedy, flat, not flat, but in comparison to a sky race. Yeah. Um just to get some practice on that. And then my first sky race is gonna be um Sky Race uh at the end of May with George Duterne. Probably not pronouncing that correctly.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Listen, it can't be worse than my French.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Um mostly because I mean, if you look at I've the lineup for that in the past years, it's just all Spanish women. So it's gonna be a really competitive, um crazy fast race. But I'm just I'm stoked to go. And I've always wanted to race in the south of France. So that's mostly the reason for jumping into that one first and foremost. Um and then yeah, and then we get into let's see, uh Beast of Big. No, that's later on. Whiteface. Um that's gosh.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

July. Is it July 4th or the year? They might have moved it to July 13th. I can't remember. Last time I turned it, yeah. It's like July 4th weekend or was at least.

U.S. Skyrunning Series Plans

SPEAKER_00 26:59

July 4th weekend. I'm planning on raising speed goat. Um nice. Yeah, for fun. Uh it's just the 35k. And then, yeah, and then August kicks off with like way more things that I probably way overcommitted, but um we have released my calendar yet because I I I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Yeah. Beast, which would be big um and super fun. I'm excited. You know, that's like the closest race to home. Um, and then gonna be probably doing Y's Trail Fest here at Mount Hood just as a as a fun one. Um, I'd love to go to Switzerland for Matterhorn. I have some like unfinished business there because I was supposed to go last year. Um but that is a tough race. I it's beautiful. I mean, talk about extreme. Isn't it called yeah, it's called Ultra X. Um yeah, and then the Alaska Ski Talk skyline scramble is at the end of August. So um August is packed, and then yeah, September is Kismet. Um and then the world championship, we'll see. I'm a little bummed that the Rut is the same weekend as Kismet. Yeah. Um, but you know, because I'm right now I'm signed up for both and I have to pick one.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

But it's a tough one. Yeah, it's tough. Don't make Tom Hooper sad.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

I know, I know, I don't want to make anybody sad, but I'm like, can I fly? I was like, how could I fly? How could I do both? And I'm like, that's a stupid idea. I think we I can't remember if we said it's technically Saturday, Sunday.

Summer Race Logistics And Choices

SPEAKER_01 28:44

Yeah, I can't remember if we said it on the podcast, but I do think I think the uh Kismet's gonna be the final for they haven't like announced it's not official yet, but from what I understand, I think Kismet will be the final. So that's like that makes it complicated because the rut's a great race, too. I'll be at the rut. I know, but Kit Tom doesn't know that yet either. So well it's hard. I know it's so hard to like pick. I mean, uh when you said all your schedules like, oh my god, I thought I was gonna be busy. I you're you're all over the place. That's message.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Yeah, I I've I like sound, I have it all mapped out in a spreadsheet. It's like color-coded and everything, but so I like to think that I'm organized, but then I talking out loud to you about it, I'm like hearing myself. I'm like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Most of them are easy to yeah, most of them are easy to get to too. The whiteface race is hard, hard as hell to get to because it's like, do you fly into Burlington? Do you fly like where you fly? It's a kind of a pain in the ass. But most of them are relatively easy. And you're lucky because you have Beast in really in your backyard. That's not a too far from you either. So yeah, you've got some good ones. Yeah, and it seems like you know what? I I'm gonna definitely cover it this year. I feel like a lot of people are going to Y East. Like the uh that 50K is gonna be the I think the USATF 50 uh K champs. So that should be a very competitive race this year, which will be fun to follow.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

Yeah, yeah, it should be. I'm doing the it's not the 50k, the what is it, 20? I don't know, the distance that's shorter. Yeah, yeah.

unknown 30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Your training has looked legit though. I gotta say, I gotta hand it to you. You're speedy these days. I'm very impressed. That race looked really good, like a very solid, strong race.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

It was fun. It's like a it's a great like local race here in Bend that Foot Zone puts on. And um yeah, I'm feeling bodies like knock on wood feeling pretty good. And nice. I think just we've had such a mild winter here. The I've been able to train on the trails pretty much every day with no snow, and it's been weather's been cooperating, so I think I think it's due to that and trying to take care of my body best I can. So hopefully it keeps up.

Training Momentum And Outlook

SPEAKER_01 30:47

I like it. I like it. Well, hey, we're only in what are we in March? So the build continues. You're gonna be a world dominator this year. I'm excited. It's gonna be fun. Listen, I uh Robin, thank you so much for coming on the show. I I told you I promised you this was gonna be a short one. So just to talk about Wazell and giant congratulations to you. And uh, I can't wait to see what you're gonna do this summer. I I'm very excited you're racing the regional series too, because I'm gonna be asking you a lot of questions. I feel like you're gonna be my my person on the ground. So, whatever stuff I can't go to, we're gonna be bringing you in on our uh on on some of our episodes so we can get some more info. So I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

Sounds good. Yeah. I'm stoked. It'll be good.

SPEAKER_01 31:27

Well, wishing you the best of luck. Thanks again, and uh, we'll be in touch. Thanks so much to Robin for coming back on the show. Always great conversation there. Looking forward, you guys are gonna be hearing a lot from her this summer. We'll be asking her all kinds of sky running questions because she'll be running at some of the biggest skyrunning races on planet Earth, uh, as well as bringing some uh hopefully some good feedback too um on some of the more regional stuff. The new Whiteface Sky Race, our uh fan favorite Kis McCliff run, as well as uh the Beast of Big Creek, which will be uh on the world sky running circuit additionally. Um want to say again, giant congratulations to her. Guys, the best way you can support her is give her a follow on Instagram. You can find her at mindfully robin on Instagram. Um, give her a follow. Let her know what you guys thought about the episode. You can also find her on Substack at Robin Viera.substack.com, linked in the show notes as well, and uh give Wazelle a follow. And uh yeah, definitely check everything out and uh big stuff there. Big stuff on the horizon. Super excited. Hope you guys enjoyed this one. Thanks so much for tuning in. More on the horizon.