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STRAIGHT TALK with RICOCHET OUTDOORS | Ep074 | Off The Clock with B Scott

Off The Clock with B Scott Season 2 Episode 74

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Will Fagan from Ricochet Outdoors joins us to discuss hunting season preparation, covering everything from firearms and feed to e-bikes and gear essentials as August signals the start of preparation season for serious hunters.

• The .350 Legend has become the most popular straight-wall cartridge due to its low recoil and effective range
• E-bikes are revolutionizing hunting access, with the Crusader 3.0 offering the best combination of features for hunters
• Nut Grub feed has replaced rice bran as the most effective deer attractant on the market
• Hunting retail business remains steady year-round rather than just peaking before season
• Proper preparation involves getting gear, ammunition, and feeds in place well before opening day
• Lever-action rifles like .45-70 and .30-30 maintain popularity among traditional hunters
• The step-through design of newer e-bikes makes them more practical for hunting applications

Check out Ricochet Outdoors in Conway for all your hunting supplies, guns, ammo, feed, and e-bikes as you prepare for the upcoming season.

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Meet Will Fagan of Ricochet Outdoors

Speaker 1

It's 5 o'clock and you're off the clock with B Scott. Today we have as our guest Will Fagan from Ricochet Outdoors there in Conway. He's a dealer of ours. He also sells guns and ammo, camouflage, deer feed, all kinds of stuff outdoor store and we're going to talk about getting ready for hunting. Okay, it's coming, it's August and we're itching to get out there. So we're going to have a good time. We're going gonna sit and chat about guns, camo feed, all kinds of stuff, just to get ready for it. And guys, you're not gonna miss it. Make sure you check out our gear shop and leave a like, subscribe, hit the bell notification.

Speaker 2

Let's get right into it what are you doing with it?

Speaker 3

I tried to call you back the other day I know, well, you got time now I was, it just started getting crazy.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

It's that new Benelli Lupo. What are you? Doing with it Three-way. I don't think they're sending it. Oh, to try, I got you. I had to have an FFL. Let's go. They can't send it to my house. You going to shoot something with?

Speaker 1

it this year. That's the plan. I always ask you, dude.

Speaker 5

That's a nice rifle.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Is that it I mean that's one.

Speaker 2

The Hawkeye, that's the one you got in it?

Speaker 3

It's like brown? I think no, that's it.

Speaker 1

I don't remember it looking like that.

Speaker 5

I think it might have been the same gun. No, no, that's it Stock was different. No, it ain't the same gun. No, that stock's definitely brown. I promise you Get the pictures.

Speaker 1

What I like about. Dad is he's got one of the worst memories on him. He knows it. But he will still fight what he thinks to the death no, that's it, even after he figures out it's half the time you know, he knows the memory suck. Oh, that's, he told me the other day.

Speaker 5

Listen. How would I even know? Didn't I say it was a painted or some kind of weird stock?

Speaker 1

yeah, all right, that's the laminate stock see, I knew that, so you put a pulled it up, so chances are I'm telling the truth you're telling the truth of your own beliefs, no, your own perspective.

Speaker 5

This is the gun that I got from Will.

Speaker 1

It was on the shelf. I don't know if that's the gun that you let Haley shoot, though is what I'm saying, Maybe not. That's what Daryl is also saying, yeah that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

That might be the gun that you're manifesting.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3

Now, that might be the case.

Speaker 2

Yes, it is. He told me the other day.

Speaker 3

He's not spitting on me now.

Speaker 5

All right, that's a valid point.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, I'm not saying you're wrong. I know you have that going. I don't think you're on. You're tracking what?

Speaker 2

oh, I got you, I got you, I got you he told me the other day I was talking to him about I was working on a boat, yeah, and I'd put like two inch spacers or something on it. And then he starts yelling at me that's not what you need. And I said, tim, that's what you fucking told me to do. And he said, well, that don't make it right.

Speaker 1

That don't make it right, that's so funny, there's just so much going on, you know.

Speaker 5

Oh it is. Do we need a note too?

Speaker 1

I just gave him one, because he's probably not as used to looking up to the board like you guys are.

Speaker 2

Am I supposed to be looking at something. There is nothing on the board we need to look at the board too.

Speaker 1

You got Magnum PI up there.

Speaker 5

You gave him a list and we don't have a list.

Speaker 3

Have you shot one of those new?

Speaker 2

AI guns yet no, I have not shot one.

Speaker 1

Explain that. What does the AI actually stand for? Is it not?

Speaker 3

It stands for something. So what's the sheep are?

Speaker 2

you all right, so it's a sheep brother. Yeah, they call it a shot pattern, there you go better and be more. True, supposedly how like?

Speaker 1

what's the process behind that like why?

Speaker 5

so the benelli shoots how does ai make the gun further?

Speaker 2

that's what he's trying to say no, it holds the shot pattern together better like. How's that, though? Stabilization it's just like when you lengthen your forcing cone or something you know, it just makes that shot. Stick together and go out further and you can get better.

Speaker 3

How does ai do that? I just what they're calling it, it's not. Ai it's not artificial intelligence. That's what I'm getting at here. Well, I didn't know.

Speaker 5

So, Jake, what is AI?

Speaker 3

then, the AI with the gun.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I don't know. But I know it's not artificial intelligence. Okay, I thought it was. That's my misconception too.

Speaker 1

That's why I kept beating Darrell up. I'm like, but what does that even mean? What does AI stand for?

Speaker 3

I'm going to do something cool with AI In a few weeks, we'll shoot one and we can tell what the difference is. I'd like to know what the difference is.

Speaker 1

What would Elon have to do with it?

Speaker 3

You have a bunch in the shop. Will yeah, Tim wants my exact gun. What the yeah? I want that.

Speaker 5

I mean, I want a panda, though they just got the AI version of it. Oh God, I got to have that.

Speaker 3

I know, I just ordered one yesterday, don't worry.

Speaker 5

I got to have the AI.

Speaker 3

I got to see the difference.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it is crazy. I really want to know what the difference AI is that.

Speaker 3

I like that. What is that? What are we looking at? It's 308.

Speaker 2

It's 308. I'm down. Which one do you like the best out of the ones I showed you?

Speaker 1

What it's for.

Speaker 2

Haley right.

Speaker 5

Can I see the?

Speaker 1

pictures. So I mean it needs to be smaller. It needs to be a smaller more controlled.

Speaker 5

What are they looking at over there? Oh, okay, it's fine.

Speaker 2

Okay, what is it?

Speaker 1

Hold up the camera so everybody can see. It's a pretty picture.

Speaker 2

It's a pretty picture.

Speaker 3

Well, Shockley knew Colt.

Speaker 2

Shockley did yeah.

Speaker 5

It's a pretty picture.

Speaker 4

Make sure to bring my damn gun back.

Speaker 2

What gun is he taking? He's taking my Benelli. Oh yeah you better.

Speaker 1

I seen it in the back seat, I was not going to bring it up. Okay, I knew flustery about it if I brought it up. I've seen it in the back, see, I rubbed the stock.

Speaker 2

I was looking at it. It's nice, it is, it's very nice. It's just a super black Rob Roberts, super black eagle theory, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1

I've seen it in your back seat. By the way, Can I get that new shotgun? The shotgun Daryl has.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think so. That's his shotgun. He wants a Super Sport Performance Series no.

Speaker 2

I don't have an Ethos.

Speaker 5

You can't get them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, but it'll take like six forehers for it to come in if I ordered it tomorrow. Really Left-handed, I don't know if they make the Ethos in the lefty.

Speaker 5

I'd have to look. You can't get a left-handed model, darrell, can I get one?

Speaker 2

No can I get one. No, I mean, I think he's only right-handed. That good, all right. I'm pretty sure the ethos comes right-handed.

Speaker 5

Let's look it up real quick you know that's the bad thing about being a lefty is like you're cut off from half the cool shit.

Speaker 4

Yeah, just be, born right-handed.

Speaker 5

When you're left-handed it's all.

Speaker 3

You're so bad you want to shoot it right-handed what what so bad? You want to shoot it right-handed. What? What the gun is so bad. You want to shoot it right-handed. Bad means good. I mean the gun is so good that I would.

Speaker 1

I mean I would, you would compromise shooting right-handed Compromise a right-hand gun, you would compromise how you've always shot guns your whole life Advanced impact is what AI stands for.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I can't believe y'all are fall face yet it has to be marketing schemes.

Speaker 3

It's all marketing schemes. I'm sure it is. It has to be. It sounds cool, though it's exactly what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2

You got to come out with something new every now and then, really.

Speaker 3

I mean, at least call it. They did test it.

Speaker 5

They put them in the video where they shot through the little phone things.

Speaker 3

What is?

Speaker 2

the AI part of the gun, though. What is this? Is the barrel. It's like a hardened barrel or more twist or something at the end of the twist. I mean it's the forcing cone in the shotgun and then forcing cone in the shotgun I have a forcing cone in all my shotguns.

Speaker 3

I guess I don't know what that is what is that?

Speaker 2

it's kind of like it's just the shot chamber where the shot travels through, so it's a tighter and it holds it together better. It's a tighter cone.

Speaker 5

That's what it is Before the choke, really. So they just squeeze the shot together.

Speaker 4

You can sit in any gun and get it done yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 4

It's crazy.

Speaker 1

You'd think they would sell it like that they do.

Speaker 3

It's called. Yeah, I know, I'm saying. I'm saying like if they've been around as long, you know, if you get a performance series going.

Speaker 5

They are yeah so.

Speaker 1

So it's basically internal choke no, you crossed the line there yeah, well, I mean right.

Speaker 5

So you got two chokes now, so just one but kind of holds your pellets together denser.

Speaker 2

That way you can control it better with a tube.

Speaker 1

It's like a difference between a sports brawl and a regular wire brawl.

Speaker 5

So basically what it does is it shapes the shot up before it gets to the final stage of the choke. It just holds it all together better. Yeah, it's not all loose, they're not all running around the chambers and shit all over the place until they get to the end of the barrel. Let's get together real tight, let's go kind of like sperm. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's what I'm thinking they were all like grouping up.

Speaker 1

You know all right let's go the way he was describing it.

Speaker 4

I was like who's gonna get there eventually?

Speaker 5

we got like 28 inches to get our shit together before we hit the tube. You know what I'm saying? That's a lot, a lot less than that.

Speaker 4

That's like as big as this room what 28 inches, yeah, 28. That's huge. I mean, how long is the barrel? I mean three inches, 28 inches, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5

The barrel's 28 inches, right 26,. The final joke, that's right. That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it only comes in right hand.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that gun.

Speaker 1

That gun is sick, though dude so light.

Speaker 5

So the AI part is just pretty much getting the shit together right out of the shot.

Speaker 3

You can get a Cordoba, which is pretty much the same gun, just not doesn't have any carbon fiber.

Speaker 5

Oh carbon fiber is.

Speaker 2

It's a marketing scheme and I think it's a big deal, Darryl seems to think it's a big deal, that gun that's in your truck right now. The first day I got it I went and took it apart. Of course I was putting stuff in it, working on it, and I dropped the barrel and the fucking rib broke.

Speaker 5

It was a carbon fiber rib.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's just a rib.

Speaker 5

Oh, I got you All right. We don't need that. Can we get a left-handed?

Advanced Impact: Decoding Shotgun Technology

Speaker 1

He's quick. He's quick. He's indecisive enough that he's willing to take any guidance he gets. No matter what the first little piece of guidance he gets, he's like you're right, let's go with it, or is there a bad one? I was wrong. Is that the best? The only best?

Speaker 2

one.

Speaker 5

I was wrong, I mean whatever.

Speaker 3

I love my gun yeah. I.

Speaker 1

I will say Darryl's 20 gauge man, you can swing that thing around.

Speaker 5

That's cool, that's you, that is me How'd your Vortex work on a 20 gauge. You should show the camera that. Is that Tim golfing?

Speaker 1

I didn't even show that to the camera. I think I like just shooting down a red dot. Dang Tim, you're a badass.

Speaker 3

Because it's like you had to actually focus. It wasn't like just a yeah.

Speaker 5

So can we get that gun left-handed?

Speaker 3

The Cordova? Yeah, you can get the SP3. They're all about the same. Honestly, see how much money you want to spend. I'm confused. The price is just the only thing that starts changing in them. What's the difference in price? I mean one's higher than the other. Well, who knows more than me? The Cordova's like what? 25? Yeah, that's retail is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well, yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Then the one I got is like 32. 33.

Speaker 5

We'll make sure it's 33. Carbon fiber it's his.

Speaker 2

It's a performance series. Is it the carbon fiber stock?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I got the ethos one with the carbon fiber spot the red buttons and stuff on it the performance series.

Speaker 4

It's slick I ain't gonna lie it.

Speaker 3

The one I got has like forcing cones. It's like it goes to Rob Roberts before you ever get it.

Speaker 5

Really.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it is nice, you can take a Super Black Eagle and send it up there and get all that stuff done.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's my Super Black Eagle. It's in the truck, it has all the stuff done. It just doesn't look like mine Really.

Speaker 2

They pick up guns at my shop all the time.

Speaker 5

Well, let's do that you can, even if you send the rob roberts, you can have habit or send my gun off. Get it done, your gun. Okay. Is that even possible?

Speaker 3

yeah, okay, I think she had new benelli and get it done a new benelli yeah, yours is a one.

Speaker 2

What yours is a one, ain't it?

Speaker 3

I don't know he has three, that bottom one no, it's not bomb land, it's you have a bottom line three at the house, yeah I've had for like 10, 12 years no, that's not a three then. Yeah, I've had it a long time. Yeah, I think this is a one.

Speaker 2

Oh, it's a one. Yeah, wow, wow, that's a lefty.

Speaker 5

Why would you want to ask that? Huh, no, for the right guy.

Speaker 3

man, Wait a minute.

Speaker 5

Wait a minute, what the fuck? I'm out, I'm out.

Speaker 2

There's too much shit going on. That's just because I feel sorry for you.

Speaker 5

Is it really worth something?

Speaker 2

Those ones are sought after.

Speaker 4

The ones in the 80s, is it Really? You're probably going to get some offers in your Facebook inbox yeah, you're going to have people sliding up.

Speaker 1

Dude, Let me get that.

Speaker 2

Left-handed one too. Yeah, that's exclusive Nothing. The Tim Scott edition you should have said anything about it, you want?

Speaker 3

to sell that gun. You got like a thousand of them anyway. Why do you want to?

Speaker 1

buy a left-handed.

Speaker 5

I knew something was fishy. I knew something was fishy. You'll give me $250 for it.

Speaker 1

Wait a minute, something's fishy Good deal.

Speaker 4

So what'd they do from the one to the three?

Speaker 2

They made a few changes to them, stocks and something A little bit internal. Okay.

Speaker 3

The one you can float a shell to. Yeah, it's easier, you can do it, I mean yeah, it's easy on the one, it's like easy.

Speaker 5

What? Float a shell? Oh, that's why you want it. Put that fourth shell in there, just take your plug out, that's worth it.

Speaker 4

Every guy can do that.

Speaker 1

That'd be the easiest way to do it.

Speaker 5

I got you, I got you that's worth 800, easy, just the fourth show.

Speaker 1

I mean, how serious are you about it?

Speaker 4

you know, how bad do you want it?

Speaker 1

That's right.

Speaker 3

That's right, they're all good guns Now they're all good.

Speaker 2

I got a special one in the other day from them. They sent me everything but my 24-7. Really, oh, they hadn't released those yet. Oh, they hadn't come out yet.

Speaker 3

They released but they hadn't shipped them. They're still building. You should probably have them by the end of September.

Speaker 4

They're making a 24-7?.

Speaker 2

I ordered some just for you. You sucker.

Speaker 4

What are those going to look like?

Speaker 3

So they're just. They're called the funeral pack and all he is. Basically they're taking the pellets and they're putting You're talking about migraine.

Speaker 4

Yeah, oh, never mind, then I thought you were talking about that. Benelli was making it 24-7.

Speaker 1

At first, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 4

Well, now I look like the idiot, so it's okay.

Speaker 1

Well, that's why being quiet sometimes is the best. I know when to talk and when I don't know to talk, we just got to figure that out real quick. Yeah, I'll read the room quick, hey notice, I didn't say nothing.

Speaker 3

He was wondering too.

Speaker 1

I was like okay, tim still thinks about his gun. You know what?

Speaker 5

I mean.

Speaker 3

Are we getting a new gun or what? Yeah, you just ordered one. He's already. We're sending it to rob roberts. He's gonna have havoc boats. You have t scott on. It's gonna be cool custom, pretty cool terminator shut up.

Speaker 1

Do I need?

Speaker 2

to get one, or do I need to get four done?

Speaker 4

uh, oh, man whatever you're five, at least get two four hey, if we're gonna do two, if we're gonna go two, let's make it three I mean, I already knew I had, we need new guns anyway, exactly we need new guns. Yeah, it was like three that's why we're not successful you can't, yeah, you got it yeah, you need it.

Speaker 5

That's what I feel like when I go to the bait store, but by these baits I catch more fish.

Speaker 4

I will say give me every time you're gonna do this.

Speaker 3

I mean, you gotta you know what's the worst thing about a bait shop though, is we go in there and you look at somebody on the owl and they're grabbing something. I'll let them walk away and I'll go see if they grab, and I'll grab something like there's a reason he's grabbing this.

Speaker 1

he knows something we over complicated because tyler's the only one that actually knows how to fish and if you go to a base or a tower dude, he's like a sniper in there. He don't graze, he goes directly for what he's looking for. He's like boom, boom, boom, boom bang. That's the guy you need to follow and you're going to come out with six different things and you're not even going to spend no time in there.

Speaker 5

The road to the pro looks good.

Speaker 1

It did yeah.

Speaker 5

I was absolutely the worst, Really. I think so why? Because Daryl I mean Daryl, he seemed pretty cool, you had a good deal going.

Speaker 1

I looked okay. I felt like I did good for the fact that I couldn't catch any fish.

Speaker 3

I had a lot of different stuff going on in my video in my part.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, yours looked good.

Speaker 4

Well, we got to get you some drip.

Speaker 1

You know what that?

Speaker 5

is now, so next season, yeah, don't be capping on me, man.

Speaker 4

I'm not capping dude. Okay, road to pro style.

Speaker 1

It's to come, we're gonna get better at it. I mean, let's talk about some deer hunting. All right, season is coming, it is all right. Who here? Who here's pumped about it? Me well if fagin is I'm ready you ready for it?

Speaker 2

no, I'm not ready.

Speaker 5

You got your story ready, you gotta all come deer hunting stuff.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, we're getting stuff in every day.

Speaker 1

Yeah, getting geared up, yeah it's like when august hits, it gets for real you sell a lot of guns it's picking up.

Speaker 2

It slows down during the summer quite a bit, but people really yeah, people are dead, man, I mean. And I don't sell a bunch of the tactical ars and all that makes sense I mean it's just

Speaker 5

not really what we're known for. Yeah, you sell a lot of rifles and duck guns and turkey guns and stuff Higher-end shotguns and punch-bolt guns. Hey, I drove that new bike, that new bike I got from you. That's way better, way better.

Speaker 2

You're talking about the one with the lower frame. It's way more cruiser. Yeah, Crusader 3.0.

Speaker 5

3.0. Yeah, way better, crusader 3.0.

Speaker 3

3.0.

Speaker 2

Yeah way better.

Speaker 3

That's 100 times better.

Speaker 5

Yes, I drove for the first time a couple days ago and I was like dude, it was Ashley's bike, right. I was like you're not getting this bike.

Speaker 1

I was about to say you got that a while ago.

Speaker 5

I finally drove it, you know, because we was cleaning out the garage so I had to move it. I drove it around.

Speaker 1

Of course this guy would push it nowhere.

Speaker 5

No.

Speaker 2

That's too much it's got a motor, there's no sense in pushing it.

Speaker 5

Why would I push another motor? It's not like it's a regular bicycle.

Speaker 1

You probably drove it from one side to the other side of the garage.

Speaker 5

No, I drove it to the other shop. You know, out the door to the other shop anyways. You know, because we have that new shop. But anyways, it's 100 times better. I can actually get on it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's the problem with the big one. That's a really big one, was it Megatron?

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Dude, that thing's hard to get on.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

Especially if you're on unlevel ground, like you're on the low side. No way you're getting on it.

Speaker 5

Which one did you use?

Speaker 1

Megatron, the big one.

Speaker 5

You used the big one. That was tough, wasn't it?

Speaker 1

No, it wasn't too bad, he's taller. Yeah, you know he's a little taller.

Speaker 3

The problem that I have with the Megatron is that once we got to where we're at, it couldn't be that'd be level one.

Speaker 2

I couldn't get to go to level one.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, that's a handful, but it does fit in the backseat of the F-150. What?

Speaker 2

do I? I rode the F-150. Because?

Speaker 3

I was like he's like, well, just put it in the back of the truck. I'm like I'm not putting it in the bed of the truck, grayson, he's like I think it'll be okay, I'm like I'm, I don't know, I will never drive that Megatron.

Speaker 2

I used the Hellcat last year, which is like their Megatron, but I like the Megatron better because the Hellcat's got that big derailleur on it and by the time deer season was over that thing looked like it was 10 years old. Really, oh yeah, but it was all from loading it in and out of the back bed of the truck, you know.

Speaker 3

See, I feel like we need to hunt on the e-bikes. Take the cybercytes with us. Hunt on the e-bikes and if we kill, don't have cybercytes.

Speaker 5

You're talking about like New Mexico.

Speaker 1

No, no, no, For example, a magnet. I mean you could put a little bike rack on the cybercyte and drive, you know, the big leg of the trail on the other side and then get off on the bike and sneak in.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it would be really good. It blows my mind the amount more just animals, deer, coyotes, everything I see when I'm on the bike.

Speaker 1

Oh, you roll up on them all the time. How many of those bikes do?

Speaker 5

you sell a year. You sell a lot of them.

Speaker 2

I probably sell 20, 25.

Speaker 5

I don't think a lot of people understand how convenient they are.

Speaker 1

They're nice dude.

Speaker 4

Well see, I don't know where I can use them, and I can't in Arkansas.

E-Bikes for Hunting: The Game Changer

Speaker 2

It's free country, trump's president.

Speaker 4

We'll see.

Speaker 5

You know, the AGFC.

Speaker 3

they got their shit going you can take them anywhere. Just like on WMA, you just go level one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and you can change the setting right there in the screen.

Speaker 4

See, but I don't want to get in the situation that you were in and not be able to do that?

Speaker 3

Well, you just have to get the one that can change to level one.

Speaker 1

I mean you got to get the bike for your purpose.

Speaker 4

Just go to yeah, get the one that you need.

Speaker 2

Well, I don't know what my purpose is, is what I'm saying? The only bike I would have for hunting is the Crusader.

Speaker 5

The Crusader, no doubt that new one.

Speaker 2

That is nice, that new one Step through, step through, you can change it to level one, which I'm sure everybody does when they go on a WMA. The first thing you do is put it in level one, right?

Speaker 5

No, it's the nicest bike. Yeah, we have what? Three or four of them.

Speaker 2

It doesn't have that great big derailleur on them. Whenever somebody brings them back and they're tore up, it's usually they rip that derailleur off.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, for sure, it's the nicest bike.

Speaker 2

I told.

Speaker 3

Ashley, I was like we got to get more of these.

Speaker 1

Is it new in the Crusader?

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's a 3.0.

Speaker 1

On the Crusader. I came through a Actually offer me to take and I had a blind strapped to the back of it and I had my gun over my chest and I had the blind on the back of it and I had my bag too, and I was coming across this crop field. Dude, oh my gosh, I wrecked it like eight times coming back through there. There's no way.

Speaker 5

It's too muddy in certain areas for me just to go smooth on it. Well, you can't hear the motor because there's no motor. So it's like your mind is kind of like disconnected, like what's really going on.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, like how am I moving? Oh yeah, you almost can't hear your tires spinning, oh and rolling up on deer, like you said earlier. Oh yeah, you roll up on them and they're like what the? Yeah, like, how did you get so close?

Speaker 5

to me.

Speaker 1

I'd be nowhere. You know what I mean. Yeah, they'll just look at you. They're just like what in the world are you doing?

Speaker 5

No, no for sure. I mean, that's the bike to have right there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, If anybody's looking for an e-bike, that's the one to have as far as turkey hunting goes. There's no other way to do it.

Speaker 2

Mm-mm, there's no Now if you're hunting out west, you might would get one of those bikes with the derailleur and all the gears on it for going up long street. You know steep grades. Is that what that's for? Yeah, dude, I bet they can be bad.

Speaker 3

Squirrel hunting behind some dogs, that would be fun, dude that is a ticket, man, a bike, that you can go anywhere in the woods as long as you're back there. You real quick Shoot a squirrel. Oh, we're doing that.

Speaker 1

That's a good idea. I don't think I've ever seen anybody squirrel hunting with one. They haven't.

Speaker 3

Coon hunting or anything.

Speaker 5

Especially a new one, because it's so small, it's not like the big ones.

Speaker 2

You just got to get the tires filled with some good slime so they don't go flat. Does that make a difference? Oh yeah, my place is just solid thorns. I put slime in it and it does okay. But then there's a lawnmower shop over there that sells some stuff that you can't shoot a hole in a tire.

Speaker 5

Really, really, it's freaking nice yeah.

Speaker 2

What's it called? It's like Evafoam. I don't remember what it's called.

Speaker 1

So you poke your tires, thorns and stuff, mm-hmm.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that would suck.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3

Be out there coon hunting at 2 in the morning.

Speaker 1

And you're way further than you ever would have been. Yeah, because you're way further than you ever would have been. Yeah.

Speaker 4

You know be like a two-hour walk back to the trail.

Speaker 5

Well, how's?

Speaker 2

bow sales. Good well, how's both? How's?

Speaker 5

both sales. Good, good been steady man. People are definitely thinking about hunting. Yeah, even as hot as it's been, I know I'm looking forward to it cool down a little bit.

Speaker 1

Yeah, me too well, you got the people that are getting ready now, and then you got the big wave of people are getting ready right before you know, and that's the.

Speaker 2

That's one thing that's always blown my mind and people ask me all the time. Well, I bet you're in your busy time of year. It's probably slow right now, man. I can't, I've never been able to pinpoint. Okay, this is the slow time or this is the busy. I mean, it's just pretty steady.

Speaker 5

Well, you sell so many different things. You sell clothes, guns, bikes. Yeah, I'm just talking about just boat sales.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's just always pretty steady yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Somebody's always looking for a boat. Yeah, I mean, duck season's over with. You would think it would die down, but you know duck hunters, as soon as it's over with, they're thinking about next year. Yeah, they're getting ready.

Speaker 1

Mm-hmm Well you know it's like also too, with sailing, so many different models. You know it's like a boat for everything. Yeah Well, you know it's like a boat for everything.

Speaker 2

Yeah well, I mean, that's the deal. It's like with anything else, there's no such thing as a perfect boat right they run their boat all year and they're like man. I wish I had a 53 instead of a 56 or whatever, get some thinking and then they say you know, they're looking their buddies boats nicer than theirs, you know yeah, and then the sandbar stuff, yeah.

Speaker 5

What's your best seller?

Speaker 2

653 vj.

Speaker 4

I'll be there jake, we'll have to cut that out um say something else will uh second, yeah, yeah, I'm perfectly a-okay with the vjs going away.

Speaker 2

Really, I mean, it's a. I wish there was just one, you know, like a 653 or a 553, and that was it, you know.

Speaker 1

Yeah so you got people that come in like I'm looking for a vjst, I want a 653, and you're like, you got 553s.

Speaker 2

You're like, yeah, well, and I want to put you know, I want to put a 25 to hot suit on it so they can run it in the metro or whatever. But they don't want to set it up and all my boat hops or whatever. Yeah, vjs are great boats and they're they're tough too, but I don't know.

Speaker 5

I just wish there was just one size yeah, well, you get a lot of different people out there, you know, wanting different things. I mean, it's hard to get that one perfect boat, you know especially when you have, like you have, different size in the vjs and you got the different sizes in the dbsts and different sizes in the msts, and it's like well, there's.

Speaker 2

there's a lot of people come to shop and they'll come by four or five, six times and just walk around, looking and, looking and looking. Like too many options ain't there? Like yeah, I'm more confused now than when I got here, that's crazy.

Speaker 5

Why do we have so many options, Jake?

Speaker 4

I think that's a different stroke for different folks, you don't?

Speaker 2

have nearly the options you used to have.

Speaker 4

You're too innovative, you know everybody comes to you with a problem and you build a boat for that problem.

Speaker 5

Yeah, we try. You know everybody comes to you with a problem and you build a boat for that problem and then you know we tried to get rid of the 756 VJ now we replaced it with a 1760 and that's about to come out.

Speaker 4

So you know, I don't know that we'll ever be able to get them. You know, get the officers dialed back but it keeps us busy too.

Speaker 3

It really does Get the off-sense dial back as soon as you delete it. Somebody will be like man, that's the boat I want.

Speaker 2

But it keeps us busy too.

Speaker 4

It really does the 1760,.

Speaker 2

I think it would be a good size for a DJ too, but the Brawling 1760, though Do a big one and then a 553. A big one and a little one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, just two. A lot of the't have to have the big eye bait.

Speaker 1

They don't have to over trim and make the boat hop or whatever they don't want to run on the plug.

Speaker 4

The 1760,.

Speaker 5

When I first seen it, though, I thought it was going to be wider and shorter. Yeah.

Speaker 1

No, it ain't. I don't even know what we can say or what we can't say about this, but let's just say we built the boat and me and Dad, we went to the rigging department looking for it. We couldn't find it.

Speaker 2

And they're like it's in there.

Speaker 5

We done called everybody. We're like hey, where is this VJ at?

Speaker 1

They're like it's in the rigging department, we finally find the VJ, and I understand now why we couldn't find it. Yeah, I understand now why we couldn't find it. Yeah, because it looks identical to a regular DBST.

Speaker 2

It had a gun box in it and everything. Why are we building it? Do you have gun boxes in there?

Speaker 1

No.

Speaker 4

Not anymore.

Speaker 1

The one we built I'm talking about from the naked eye outside, looking in the boat.

Speaker 5

We couldn't tell a difference there wouldn't be a difference between a. Dbst and a VJ. I'm like this won't work At all. Solid floor everything. Why would they buy a DBST when they can buy a 1760?

Speaker 1

VJ for the.

Speaker 5

VJ price and it looks the same.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean it had a. They got a solid floor in it. Yeah, no, it did. It had a solid floor. Well, it did.

Speaker 5

I think it was a mistake on our part, but yes, dpst with a VJ price, I'm like, well, that ain't going to.

Speaker 1

That's what it was. I said that dog ain't hunting.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

That can't fly. No, where's the boat at now? Take the floor out.

Speaker 4

There's two of them. Someone very lucky is going to get that boat.

Speaker 1

The first one with a solid floor and a gum box. Lucky guy, yeah, lucky guy. He's getting a hell of a boat.

Speaker 5

Well, I mean, it's a VJ. It looks like a DBSD.

Speaker 1

Yeah, nobody's going to know the difference. It's like makeup on a VJ it is a DBSD. You know what I'm saying? It is a DBSD.

Speaker 4

That's all it is the only difference is the ribs.

Speaker 3

It only has the ribs, it's a rib. Like the DBS, confuse ourselves all the time you know what I'm saying, so we understand. We'll try to make it easier for you guys. Somebody getting a boat with a lot of upgrades for the no upgrade price for no upgrade price no, no, that didn't work alphabet boat.

Speaker 1

We actually we're getting a lot of names. Yeah, the the podcast boat's been pretty good.

Speaker 5

The podcast boat yeah like all the set-up boats from the internet Podcast boat.

Speaker 3

Oh, you own a podcast boat. That's what they're calling them. It's trending on TikTok the podcast boat.

Speaker 2

Yeah, podcast boat.

Speaker 1

Something new every day.

Speaker 2

You know what they say? What when you're at the top of the flagpole? They can't say nothing but your ass.

Speaker 5

That's right, that's right, I ain't worried about it?

Speaker 2

I ain't worried about it.

Speaker 5

So what else you guys got going on at Conway?

Speaker 3

You got some sick in that store yet, nope, no sick, still working on it.

Speaker 5

We working on it though, aren't we? Yeah, we working on it, just the We'll get it Cl?

Speaker 2

I don't know, I just hadn't done great with them.

Speaker 5

Is it a volume deal? Like you might have a bigger selection?

Speaker 2

I mean, I tried to get more stuff last year, you know a bigger selection and you got to have every color, every camo, every color, every size. And then you know, then everybody's got their discount codes and yeah stuff and they come in, look at it and they go order it online or whatever. But you know a lot of people like to go to the store and buy it, try it on, buy it there yeah we've done okay with it.

Speaker 5

Never did great yeah, we can see how that can be a problem yeah, yeah, we went to the Sitka store in Montana and it was nice to walk around and actually feel the material of all the clothes and stuff.

Speaker 2

I mean, I think something like Sitka would do better. I mean, and I like some of that other stuff, but me, if I'm going to spend that kind of money on a jacket or whatever, I want to put my hands on it.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 5

I've never been able to make myself. That's really why I have so much clothes Sika clothes.

Speaker 4

Because you ordered it all online. You ordered it all online, yeah.

Speaker 1

There's nothing wrong with that, and it's like trial and error. You feel it and you're like I don't really like the material. It becomes a functional tool Cool.

Speaker 5

Well, it comes from that to just a collection of clothes. Well, I'm so far in, I might as well just collect all of it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean there's a Sitka store in your house.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I got way more. It's pretty cool. I got way more.

Speaker 2

I've always done a lot better with like accessories.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And you know bags and Decoys, yeah, decoys, and you know whatever.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I stopped there and bought a shot caller on my way to. Where was I going last year? Nebraska. Yeah, on my way to Nebraska I got stopped at Will's by a shot caller.

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Speaker 2

We started doing some more of that stuff, some more dog stuff.

Speaker 1

It's been doing pretty decent, yeah, everybody loves their dogs oh yeah man, I bet you sell the shit out of some drain plugs. I give a lot away, I tell you, I need one all the time. There probably are drain plugs.

Speaker 5

You know I call those stuff, hey, y'all got to ship drain plugs.

Speaker 1

We'll send them like 50 drain plugs.

Speaker 5

Hey, y'all shoot me a load of buzz and I get no drain plugs.

Speaker 3

You can sell some drain plugs at boat ramps. Oh yeah, dude, there's a couple times I've been in someone.

Speaker 1

Imagine you just had like a little drain plug machine at every boat ramp $20?

Speaker 2

Yeah, a shotgun shell and electrical tape will work. Yes, it will work. It will work.

Speaker 5

Get you out of a bind For sure how many times did y'all go to the boat ramp and not have a drain plug?

Speaker 3

I can't count All the time. We were scrambling through trucks trying to find one.

Speaker 1

I watched Daryl. One time we went to the.

Speaker 2

Tiller Ham race.

Speaker 1

And Daryl didn't have a drain plug. We were going to the Tiller Ham race. Daryl didn't have a drain. I watched him find Shockley's truck in the parking lot, climb in the back of his truck, break into his toolbox in the back of his truck and steal a drain plug out of it.

Speaker 3

I forgot about that.

Speaker 1

I watched him do this.

Speaker 3

I was like you don't got a drain plug. He's like what are you doing? I said I know Shockley got probably one in the back of that truck somewhere and we're both people. He had a dishwasher box and everything back there.

Speaker 5

We're boat people, we're terrible.

Speaker 3

I'm telling you If I get to my truck season, I'm in my truck. My neighbor searched for something and they told me only for a drain plug. I'd be like I understand.

Speaker 1

I get it, dude, I get it.

Speaker 2

I get it Like you came all the way day I rigged. I finally rigged the white boat. Yeah, I'm gonna go take it out.

Speaker 5

No, drain plug no, I had drain plug.

Speaker 2

Just had my steering hooked up backwards I've done that.

Speaker 1

Hey, that's hard to load back up with the trailer yeah, he is a dealer, yeah I don't double check my stuff.

Speaker 2

That makes too much sense. I do this every day.

Speaker 4

I don't need to double check my stuff. That makes too much sense.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I do this every day. I don't need to double check it. The bad thing is is when I was bleeding the system. You know I'm sitting there turning the wheel looking at the motor. Never, even Never dawned on me. Nope, never dawned on me.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Until you get out there, yeah, hey driven a console boat backwards with reverse steering.

Speaker 1

Dude, it is ridiculously hard, it is. It's right there like. Imagine if, like, a bicycle, had reverse steering, like you wouldn't be able to ride it you have to make yourself think opposite.

Speaker 5

Yes, let's turn right. It's really hard it's very hard to do, especially if you gotta do it fast yeah you know, yeah, I've been there, done that, trust me, I've been there oh yeah, it's just Do it.

Speaker 1

Long enough, you're going to eventually do it.

Speaker 2

So if you've never done it. You haven't done very many of them.

Speaker 5

No, that's right, that's right. So we've got hunt season coming up. We've got bow season coming up. Do you sell bows yet?

Speaker 2

No, I do not sell bows. There's not really any territory open and with man I you just you've got to have a full-time bow guy set up. I I'm, especially during hunting season I'm all time working on guns. You know, I don't do no gunsmithing and stuff, just some light stuff, but all time working on guns, all time trying to get people's boats fixed and get them back on the water and I just I'm not gonna fool with it, you know you'd almost have to have a whole nother section.

Speaker 1

Yeah, just for that. Year round is about yeah.

Speaker 2

Bows are so cool, you gotta have. I mean, I love bow hunting, but I just don't have the time and I don't know anybody that I could trust to bring in to do it.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying yeah, Cause a lot of people they go to the bow shop.

Speaker 2

I mean, there's some really good bow shops around there is.

Speaker 1

There's some really good guys, yeah there is yeah, I can see that I'm ready for it, though I'm ready for that cool weather, I'm ready to hunt anything.

Speaker 5

So the first season coming up is muzzler season.

Speaker 1

After yeah, bow.

Speaker 5

And they pass a new law where you can use, a straight New law where you can use a straight Straight wall. Straight wall. So tell us about them. What's your most popular gun you sell.

Speaker 2

There's by far a .350 Legend, .350 Legend. I can see that.

Speaker 4

Yep.

Speaker 2

By far. Yep, low recoil, pretty good killing power, decent range.

Speaker 1

What's the?

Speaker 2

range man. I mean you can shoot them 200. There's people that can shoot them further than that.

Speaker 5

Is that?

Speaker 2

what we got, ashley. I think so, I think so, yeah, I think so. 350 is definitely.

Speaker 5

Oh, yeah, I did I shot it last year and it was yeah, you're right, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1

No recoil yeah, we got 45-70, because it's the greatest caliber ever invented it's, it's, it's cool, like it's just cool to have yeah, but man it kicks so bad, oh my god I just love it, but I've been that was my, always my favorite. Yeah, but you weigh 350 pounds well shut up he's like he's a little petite princess over here I.

Speaker 5

I weigh 214. You weigh 350. I don't weigh 350. How much do you weigh you?

Speaker 2

weigh 214. Yeah, I don't know, 280, 290. Good for you, dude, really.

Speaker 5

You carry your weight really nicely.

Speaker 1

You're what? Six foot two, six one, six one. I'm five foot five. You're five foot four and a half.

Speaker 2

So four and a half. So bmi, this body mass index, he has a better figure, he's sitting on two phone books over there.

Speaker 5

I mean I. That's not true. I got a special seat to hide the reactions yeah no but I mean obviously you got a big body, so okay.

Speaker 4

Okay, a .45-70. I'm just saying, I mean the .45-70, like he can shoot it a lot more than I can.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but he's taller, so the leverage of the power of the gun is probably more than your low central gravity.

Speaker 5

What am I supposed to say? This is real back and forth, big frame.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Big body. It's like a pause in the big body.

Speaker 5

So what's after muzzleloading? I'm just saying he can handle the .45-70. Because he's got a nice body on him .350 was definitely the best seller by far.

Speaker 4

Really.

Speaker 2

Yeah, guys like me, girly men Small women.

Speaker 5

I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 3

I don't like guns that kick either.

Speaker 5

Will's always shot a .45-70. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2

I love them. I've got a problem with lever action rifles and .45-70 and .30-30.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I love them. They're cool man, If you've ever just ripped on a lever action gun ever once in your life.

Speaker 5

Did you imagine Will Fagan as a cowboy? Back in the day like early 1900s.

Speaker 2

Big ass horse. I was about to say.

Speaker 1

What was?

Speaker 5

Clydesdale White horse. Yeah, big people make big targets.

Speaker 3

That is true. Yeah, see, I think you like big people.

Speaker 5

No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1

I'll just stay obvious. You're saying you would not recommend him for a 1550.

Speaker 5

VJ. No, it'd run like this that way. No 1860, 1860, 1860s run good.

Speaker 2

They do run good. I love 1860 you just got 2172.

Speaker 5

I know I like it too, cause it's big. You know why? Cause when you get in it, you feel like you got a lot of space, because you're big.

Speaker 1

We'll say it ain't as big as it seems.

Speaker 4

Yes, that we're making it.

Speaker 1

That Dad's making it.

Speaker 4

No, he's pretty big, he's a big guy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, wasn't it in your past life? He was a bouncer or something.

Speaker 5

No, he was a bouncer. No, he was a bouncer. No, he was a. What were you? What was he? Bell Bondsman, we had a Bell.

Speaker 2

Bondsman, the Bell Bondsman yeah.

Speaker 4

Who said bounty hunter.

Speaker 1

I think I did.

Speaker 3

A bounty hunter. No he will hunt your ass down.

Speaker 2

We did a lot of that. No, that's what they did. No, he fish hooks people.

Speaker 4

That's a true story.

Speaker 2

He fish hooks. The fish hook works. It does work. I hate on the fish, hook the fish hook's pretty serious, you know. You showed me the fish hook. I got scars on my thumbs from fish hook.

Speaker 5

Let me tell you something. If shit goes down and I need some horsepower, I'm calling real fast.

Speaker 4

I think you should show You're talking about putting your finger in somebody's mouth, right?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, He'll fish hook. Show Jake the fish hook.

Speaker 2

Both. Dom's got scars from teeth. You want me to show you the fish?

Speaker 4

No, Show them the fish. So do you have to get to the side of the teeth Right on?

Speaker 2

there like that right on and crank down on it and you get control of the man's head.

Speaker 5

That dude will do anything you want him to do. I mean anything. He can move that anywhere You're making me nervous.

Speaker 1

I'll fish him in the ass, dude, it hurts.

Speaker 5

It does hurt really bad he fished me one time to show me, but it's also one of those things you got.

Speaker 2

I mean, it takes some sacrifice Because they're going to get the skin right here with their teeth.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, and you can't back off, then.

Speaker 1

You just got to hang in there. Ain't no letting go A three-year-old can fish hook you and he'll mess you up. I promise you, Dude, there's something about it. I'm telling you right now. You think you're tough enough?

Speaker 4

You ever been in a double fishhook situation? No? Never, double fishhook They've got you.

Speaker 2

Like double stalvite. Never been in one of those.

Speaker 5

No, when I first met, will That'd be a battle though?

Speaker 1

Yeah, it would.

Speaker 5

Yeah, when I first met Will, that's what he did. Yeah, he fish-hooked people. Yeah, he pissed them off.

Speaker 1

When needed, when needed.

Speaker 2

When needed. Yeah, gentle John, what's the effect of that?

Speaker 5

Well, he's moved from that lifestyle to a boat dealer.

Speaker 1

He's a salesman now, yeah he's a salesman, yeah the high energy, high you know, don't go in there starting nothing.

Speaker 5

Y'all didn't know that Y'all didn't know Will was a bomb buster.

Speaker 4

I knew that he never, came up.

Speaker 1

I can see if I had to guess when I first found out, I was thinking more along the lines of Dog the Bounty Hunter.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm talking about. Oh, my gosh yeah.

Speaker 1

Was that kind of how you rolled up? No? No, oh my gosh. Yeah, was that kind of how you rolled up? No?

Speaker 2

No, hey, that was all BS aside, it was a pretty good business. It is a good business because everybody skips court Until no, you don't want them to do that, yeah, Until that show came out, really yes.

Speaker 1

Really. Why is that?

Speaker 2

Then what happened then? Well, I mean, it was everybody and their grandma was started.

Speaker 1

So you're saying it was lucrative for the people that were doing it before that show? Yes, then it got washed out, with everybody wanting to do it yeah just, you know, market get flooded, you know.

Speaker 2

you go into one of these towns now and it's just bail bond office after bail bond office.

Speaker 5

Yeah, there's a lot of them now. Yeah, so basically, basically you just go out and find people bring them back to court.

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Speaker 2

No, I mean, you're bonding people out of jail yeah you know, putting up their bail form right guarantee, basically essentially guaranteeing they're gonna show up to court if they didn't show up.

Speaker 5

You had to find them. You gotta go find them. That was pretty fun, wasn't it?

Speaker 2

It was fun.

Speaker 3

It was no.

Speaker 2

I mean, there is some that are hard to find.

Speaker 5

Well, a lot of people think like building boats, running boats every day is fun. But really, like people come to the boat ramps, oh, you got the best job ever. You get to go to the lake every day. I'm like dude, if you see me at the boat ramp, something's wrong.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I got work on this boat it needs carrying cross ties.

Speaker 5

Oh it does. I've done that with you Will.

Speaker 2

That sucks.

Speaker 5

I know, I know you stuck me with a big deal.

Speaker 2

Man, I'll get running around kicking stuff in the shop, mad thinking what the heck am I doing. And then I got to just kind of put myself in place like dude I could be carrying a cross tie. Dude, you're getting to play with boats and guns for a while I know, I know you take everything I know asphalt on the highway.

Speaker 1

It could always be we'd be roofing houses in the middle of summer.

Speaker 5

I did carry cross ties, though in pennsylvania I poured asphalt one summer that was tough.

Speaker 3

I bet that sucked. That's when I decided college was for me. I got him over this.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I was like, yeah, this sucks daryl's like I gotta find a way to hunt and fish for a living. What's the first step?

Speaker 3

become a nurse working the air condition first so I can plan it out.

Speaker 1

No, it definitely. It's like uh, you know, yeah, we have to go out and work on stuff all the time, go here there, but I mean there's way worse things that I can imagine us doing.

Speaker 5

Oh yeah, sometimes you just got to sit down and say, you know, it's not this bad yeah.

Speaker 2

You got to put yourself in place.

Speaker 5

Yeah, you do Get to feeling sorry for yourself yeah it sucks Gosh dude, you know, I've been in the lake five times, you know it sucks. Where's this shit going to end?

Speaker 2

Go home.

Speaker 5

Go home, drink your sleep.

Speaker 1

Yeah, poor me. Yeah. Then your wife says you're so stupid. Yeah, I know is that?

Speaker 5

wake up, go back to the lake in the morning. Everybody else that's gonna work like. No wait, you're right.

Speaker 1

All right, I'll deal with it all right, it can't be that bad.

Speaker 2

I mean the worst part for me when I get to feeling sorry for myself is always during hunting season. Why is that? Because I just I don't, I don't get to go like I want to, oh okay, because. I got to keep you know I'm at the store.

Speaker 5

I can see that Keeping everybody else going.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so you just mope around shop and Bob Brook will come out and throw something at me and she's like you can quit feeling sorry for yourself. We won't go hunting.

Speaker 5

We shouldn't open the hunting store.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you did it yourself.

Speaker 5

What did you?

Speaker 1

expect.

Speaker 3

I bet when season's open, it's probably the best time to be open. That's when people start realizing they need new stuff, like me personally.

Speaker 1

that's when I realized I buy more hunting stuff in hunting season than before Because these two will show up with something new, and I just got to feel like I got to have it too.

Speaker 5

I don't even need it.

Speaker 3

I don't even need half that stuff.

Speaker 5

I'm justifying it for something real.

Speaker 2

It's gotten so bad that if I catch wind, all this stuff is for us and it ain't for ducks or deer or whatever it's for us.

Speaker 1

I know I'm like all right. Why does he want it? What is it even?

Speaker 5

Just like the pistol. Yeah, I was about to say, and I'm like I might win it 30 minutes ago, just like the pistol. He's like where's mine? I was like what the?

Speaker 1

Well, I feel like we're in a constant battle.

Speaker 2

You can't say nothing. When B Scott got that all-weather at the shop, you're like this is bad Will.

Speaker 5

Can you get another one?

Speaker 2

No, Okay, well, don't sell him that one.

Speaker 1

I want it. I was already driving up there like yeah he went up there and got it.

Speaker 5

I didn't even know it. It's like a special op. Yeah, I was like what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 1

Well, I think everybody's just competing.

Speaker 5

I'm like I've known Will real lot longer than you have Put your time in and you know it's not just us that do that.

Speaker 1

You know you get a guy in your group that's got something that's sick and you're just like God. I want that. So bad.

Speaker 5

I think that's what feeds the marine industry and it just keeps. I mean you know just, they sell me all the names and stuff half the time. Yeah, I guess that's what I enjoy. Their havoc, too, is like we do have an opportunity to build something new. Yeah, because when you get, something new.

Speaker 3

You get it for like a day or two and it's like, oh, super cool, and you just throw it in your truck and like, yeah, what's next?

Speaker 1

yeah, it's more than likely not an essential tool to doing the job.

Speaker 5

You know what I mean yeah, like, actually, like, like she could pick up on this, like I'd be walking around the house or especially weekend, where it's hot and you just can't do nothing. That's my worst time of the year, because I'm usually fishing or hunting or doing something productive and I'm like I get depressed. She's like you're going to go buy something. Get you out of this, this rut for a week or two.

Speaker 1

Go pick up a weekend hobby.

Speaker 5

Go buy something, go buy a gun, go do something, go spend something, do something this guy was the same way Whenever he was batting really shitty, you know, for like three games straight we'd just go buy a new bat no shit. No home run no shit.

Speaker 1

Not that it wouldn't be like three games yes it would. He'd get in a slump.

Speaker 5

Yeah, he would like strike out, strike out, strike out, strike out. We're like fuck, let's go, let's get a bat. We'd go buy a bat, bring it back. Here's a new bat.

Speaker 1

That might have happened twice. You know what I'm saying. Like the way you word, you know that seemed like we'd get new bats every other week. You know what I mean we had to. That's where he's standing.

Speaker 3

He's stuck. I don't know, I don't

Speaker 1

know, I don't know, I don't know what he's saying here.

Speaker 5

No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I don't know his angle here.

Speaker 3

No.

Speaker 1

I mean, I can't figure out what point he's making.

Speaker 4

That sounds like some horrible slurs.

Speaker 2

No, I mean, I'm yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5

You did bat like a 500, though what did you have? Like a 500, or?

Speaker 3

something, something like that, I don't remember. That's pretty good, huh, jake, that's a very good batting average 500?.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4

What was your batting average in college? It's in the archives.

Speaker 3

I don't know.

Speaker 5

I watched Jake hit a bomb on Instagram the other day, yeah, rip them.

Speaker 1

He's pretty good. Jake was salty man.

Speaker 4

Hey, speaking of being good at things, I heard you were an excellent bowler.

Speaker 5

I was back in my day, did you know that about him? And you got a bowler.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he sent me a picture yesterday. He found in some old files from like it had to be, the had to be what the 80s, 90?, early 90s maybe? I was born in 79, dude, so we talking about early 90s.

Speaker 5

I was in my high school, probably 90s, mid 90s 250 bowling patch you know my average, you know, ain't that some shit?

Speaker 4

dude, when's the last time you've been bowling back it up?

Speaker 1

he's actually phenomenally good at bowling.

Speaker 2

I used to bowl all the time in high school.

Speaker 1

He's low to the ground he can see. Here we go. He is one with the shape, he's one with the shape, I didn't have to pick the ball up very far. When his arm was at full down tilt he pretty much kissed the ground.

Speaker 2

He's on the ground.

Speaker 1

There was no bounce to his ball, it was so smooth. Call him Stilky.

Speaker 4

Like you didn't hear, it hit the floor.

Speaker 1

No, there was no hitting. It just kissed the floor and made love all the way down the bowling lane.

Speaker 4

All right, all right, all right, let's reel back in again.

Speaker 5

It's time to go bowling. My average was 250 for three, so why?

Speaker 4

don't you do that anymore.

Speaker 5

I started building boats.

Speaker 4

Dude, that's not a 24-hour day job.

Speaker 1

For one his wrist is broke For one.

Speaker 3

His wrist is broke. He broke his wrist, it was broke. It's not broke anymore. Sprained Sprained Bowling injury.

Speaker 5

Yeah, pete's got injury.

Speaker 3

He hit a bowling ball.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I did.

Speaker 1

I hit a wall Hit the crimson chin.

Speaker 3

We won't go in that big deal.

Speaker 5

I mean we won't go there, no he folded his little weak wrist right up.

Speaker 1

Did you ever find the?

Speaker 5

picture where I beat you in bowling Dude shut up Will's good at bowling too, aren't you Will Bowling, Good at bowling? I just made that up I mean.

Speaker 1

That sounds like it made up. Aren't you Will. What did he play golf.

Speaker 2

A negative. What do you?

Speaker 1

do for fun Will Do you do anything sport-wise, Anything badminton?

Speaker 2

Yeah, probably badminton. For sure, For sure, I kick ass at pickleball.

Speaker 4

Yeah, he invented pickleball. I mean he was on the first, I can see that.

Speaker 3

I'm not judging dude.

Speaker 1

I played tennis one year in high school and that was actually a pretty good damn time. Where do you play pickleball at?

Speaker 4

How does that work? Just, you know the local tennis court.

Speaker 3

You play that. You play it on the court. I think I can beat Jake at pickleball.

Speaker 4

I don't think you could.

Speaker 3

I think I could.

Speaker 4

No, I'm more athletic than you Still, but yeah, you just show up, you know you got your.

Speaker 1

You think so. All right, to be honest with you, if it was head-to-head on pickleball, jake's a sleeper, I'm telling you Joe.

Speaker 4

How am I a sleeper? I play pickleball. He doesn't play pickleball.

Speaker 3

I've never played pickleball. Oh, then Jake's beating you 100% Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1

I would compete, though it wouldn't, be a.

Speaker 5

I understand that I'd make it close you make it respectable, is it?

Speaker 3

a one on one Kind of game, I don't know.

Speaker 4

I've never, played Football, so I can't tell you For you, hold up.

Speaker 1

It was two on two If it was Jake and Tim Versus me and Daryl. Who's winning that? Oh, we're definitely winning. We're winning that.

Speaker 4

Yes, because Young Just picked on Tim.

Speaker 3

What about Will? Yes, exactly what about Will, though.

Speaker 5

Well, what if you put Will?

Speaker 2

on. Is there a goalie in that we still win? I want to be the goalie, see.

Speaker 5

No no goalie no goalie I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 1

You can play the net. You can play the net.

Speaker 2

I just heard pickleball and thought it sounded gay. So that's what I said.

Speaker 4

No, I mean, it's a ton of fun. Oh, is it Everybody's now? Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, but hey, people are blowing out the achilles knees all that, so I'm trying to stay away from as much as I can. Really got bad knees yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5

Oh my god I like golf because she doesn't catch it.

Speaker 4

Yeah I mean b scott, so but uh I've played golf like three times daryl's pretty good golf.

Speaker 2

He's been playing golf all over the place with all kinds of people and so the first time I had a meeting in oklahoma, I had to go play golf and I'm like in a meeting like a business meeting.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it was a meeting they want. That's a terrible place yeah no, it's a great place for some, that's great yeah but, it's good at golf.

Speaker 3

Yes, well, that's a corporate.

Speaker 1

Golf is a great place that's a corporate kind of it is. You know it is. It's a corporate type deal. We don't really do?

Speaker 3

We're not corporate here. Get in the golf cart, stand around and put in the green. I've never played before you get a drink.

Speaker 2

Everybody's telling me, oh, this is going to be a nightmare. And I'm like freaking. Not, I mean, it's golf, this is easy. I mean, I've always been able to hit a baseball. I can surely I can hit this white ball standing still yeah, it's easy. So they're like yeah, you're gonna suck.

Speaker 2

I'm like whatever and so I bought some golf shoes, went and borrowed some clubs from my cousin and then, after listening to everybody tell me how bad I suck, I'm like I'm gonna suck. All right, I'll go out in the backyard and hit a few golf balls, you know, into the woods like 30 yards. I get the club out, whichever one it was, and I hit a few and I'm like this is easy. Of course, you know, like, say, I'm hitting it 30 yards before it hits the trees. So I don't, you know it can't see what it does after that, yeah it does after that and I walk back in and brooke's like how was that?

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Speaker 2

And I was like no, it's fine, it's easy. I was like I got golf club, I got tar all over me. Club tar all over me, she's like what. And I was like you know, like bat tar, Like it's on a baseball bat, she's like what Bad grips. Yeah, yeah, I just assumed it was normal. I was like hey, tar on it. But yeah so I went out that next week and played and I absolutely sucked Really.

Speaker 1

I was horrible, Did you hook them?

Speaker 2

real bad yeah but it ended up being a good thing because it was kind of the funny joke. I don't know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you're that guy. Everybody's like oh, you could be doing worse, at least you're not Will. Yeah, that's my role, and I get mad too. What did you?

Speaker 5

do, though, when everybody's watching you swing the golf club and you just suck so bad. Were you nervous?

Speaker 2

I mean, I knew I was going to. After the very first hole I was like, well, I suck at this, so I might as well just keep sucking.

Speaker 3

He's like where's the cart girl? That's the good thing, though, about being the worst player.

Speaker 1

When you're the worst player, you don't have a pressure.

Speaker 4

There's no expectations.

Speaker 1

No dude. So when you accidentally do a good job, you're like y'all see that shit.

Speaker 2

I got a hold of one and they're like oh man.

Speaker 3

It's like the kid that comes off the bench in a sport it doesn't matter. Everybody else can be having the best game of their life.

Speaker 1

That's who they want to cheer for. That's it, Both teams being the worst player.

Speaker 5

That's the worst thing Everybody laughed at me when I played with y'all.

Speaker 3

No but the first one I'm going to shoot you straight. You're kind of no no, the first hole he hit. That 120-yard shot no, those were great shots. That was dialed in.

Speaker 4

For sure.

Speaker 1

No, he started off hot.

Speaker 4

You played two rounds of golf in your life. Yeah, I mean. Well, I played a little more than that. Well, don't say that.

Speaker 1

Yes, yeah, you could have totally got away with that right there. Nobody knows that.

Speaker 3

I just suck at it. Well, I mean, you gotta do something, you gotta practice.

Speaker 5

You have to be flexible.

Speaker 3

Your form is a little it's like the old men are sometimes the best golfers.

Speaker 4

Really, because they're not too flexible. Yeah, you don't do too much. Athleticism can take over To hit it a long ways. You gotta be flexible.

Speaker 5

I'm completely wrong about it, but you don't want to get but hitting.

Speaker 3

But he's got a computer a long ways.

Speaker 2

I bet you, I am the only person here that's ever made it into Golf Digest.

Speaker 4

What is that? How'd you do that?

Speaker 3

How'd you do that? It's the big magazine for golf, like Field and Stream for punting.

Speaker 2

Oh really, I had one of my big frack pumps that we used to use in the oil field and somebody up in Russellville knew I had it. It was just a leftover pump and so I sold it to John Daly. Oh, and we go up there and we're setting it up. And we're setting it up and over the little pond there I noticed there's a cotton mouth in the tree. Ain't nobody around, I'm fitting to shoot it.

Speaker 2

And about that time, pull up, shoot, miss. Falls down in the water. I got 22 of them shooting it and there's like three of us out there and here comes John Daly with another guy in a cart and he's like what are you doing? I was like I was water moccasin' in your pond. I killed him. Oh cool, kill them all. You know. Well, the other guy that was with him was a writer for Golf Digest and he was writing a story about him going into like the senior tour or whatever. And then another buddy of mine that reads that I don't know anything more boring than golf is reading about golf Sends me a picture of this article. They're like yeah, I pulled up on his course and there's a guy shooting snakes out of the tree.

Speaker 4

I made it.

Speaker 1

Hey, put it on the resume, yeah golf digest yeah, that's pretty cool, that is good I know maybe we uh, maybe I ought to go golfing.

Speaker 5

You're pretty soon guys no, we, no, we got plenty to do.

Speaker 1

We should go.

Speaker 4

That's the beauty of golf you can squeeze around in.

Speaker 3

Around shit. Here we go Saturday morning. Here we go. Before you leave, saturday morning, we're squeezing around in.

Speaker 4

Before you leave oh my God, here we go. I didn't hear a no, I that's like hey we're doing this.

Speaker 5

Yep Sweet. If you don't go to the sandbar, you got to go play golf. Okay, I'm golfing, dude, I'll be there.

Speaker 3

The last time your club touched a course, they won money.

Speaker 5

Oh hey, yeah, you played with them. The only thing I want to do is race a golf course. That's all I want to do is race.

Speaker 3

Well, the golf cart you have wins every race. It's not fair, cool. Yeah, I took his golf cart and, like everybody got in front of me like probably 50, 60 yards, like they were sitting still it's a havoc golf.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I mean, what would you expect it's?

Speaker 1

nuts, that's the rdb. Yeah, he's got the golf cart.

Speaker 3

It's a model yeah, it's not even close like I mean's. Did they let you use it out there?

Speaker 4

Yeah, for real, it's a golf cart.

Speaker 1

I mean, it's a golf cart, it's got a lot of power.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it has to do with how big the tires are.

Speaker 5

I swear to God, they're not illegal.

Speaker 3

We can throw you in on them For sure, I'm sure yeah, we can definitely Bohan.

Speaker 1

First. I got my mind set. I got this monster six point. I keep showing everybody and wearing everybody out about. They've seen these pictures a hundred times now. I think he's potentially a state record. I can't show y'all but it's going to come up soon. Show Will Fagan real quick the picture. I've seen it.

Speaker 2

I was here 14 seconds before he had a stone in my face.

Speaker 5

I know.

Speaker 1

You're lucky, I haven't pulled up before you, do you think?

Speaker 5

he's 120 inches.

Speaker 2

I don't know. It'd be hard for a six to get there.

Speaker 1

He's big.

Speaker 2

He is big, he's heavy.

Speaker 1

I mean he's big, I don't know what the state record is in Arkansas? Six points. If somebody knows, please drop in the comments. But I don't know. He's close, he's big.

Speaker 5

Real big. What do you think he is? 115? I don't know. He's a good deer.

Speaker 2

He's a good deer for sure, especially for down here. He's huge, six point. He's big, yeah, anyways. Well, then we got straight wall after that.

Speaker 1

He's going to die. I'm getting him this year. He'll die. I've watched him the last three years. I got to kill him. You got straight wall modern gun it's. It's getting fired up pretty soon. I mean the weather's getting right still hot, but it's getting there. It's getting closer to our time.

Speaker 5

It is people are starting to feed.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, if you guys need any hunting supplies, guns, ammos, feed, anything you need. Check out, will fagin air conway ricochet outdoors?

Speaker 3

I'm feeding hogs right now. It gets you hooked up. They're so disrespectful they are? They are beating their babies in my feed pile.

Speaker 1

They're laying down feeding, nursing, in his nut grub pile and they're fucked up.

Speaker 2

I got one of the nut grub feeders and it's awesome.

Speaker 1

Is it you?

Speaker 2

got one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, is it good yeah.

Speaker 2

Went and put it out the other day and I was just watching it on the other day and I was just, of course, watching it on the camera. And then the second day I said the only problem with nut grub is if there's cows anywhere, they're going to eat it. Well, I mean, there's not any cows on my place, but there's cows on the place just north of me. They will find a way to get through that fence and get to that nut grub. That nut grub is awesome.

Speaker 3

It brings them in dude, it does the deer too. It's like crack they look like little crackheads.

Speaker 5

Nut grub works, so good they love that nut grub.

Speaker 2

They really do.

Speaker 5

Oh yeah, Remember back in the day when you used to use rice bran Mm-hmm. But this nut grub's a whole different level. Oh yeah, it's like the rice bran kind of died out, like it was hot for a while.

Speaker 1

This has a lot going on in it.

Speaker 2

I still get people looking for rice bran.

Speaker 1

Really.

Speaker 2

I don't really eat it. At my place they only eat it if you put Kool-Aid packets in it, kool-aid packets.

Speaker 3

I swear to you what kind of Kool-Aid? Daryl for the day, grape no Watermelon.

Speaker 5

Watermelon Grape. That's Daryl's favorite color.

Speaker 1

Alright well.

Speaker 5

Okay, we're going to move on.

Speaker 4

Somebody's going to think like did you hear what Tim?

Speaker 1

said Grape Kool-Aid.

Speaker 5

He's one of the tellers who likes Grape Kool-Aid I do like Grape Kool-Aid. Well. One of those who likes Grape Kool-Aid I do like Grape Kool-Aid. Well, gosh damn, I was right.

Speaker 3

We did drink that at Lake Fork yeah.

Speaker 4

We did.

Speaker 3

I mean, if Chucky's wife could get a Grape Kool-Aid package.

Speaker 1

And we had Grape Kool-Aid and strawberries. It was good. It was good. Well, guys, Anything outdoor-related, he's got it Guns, ammo, feed clothes. I mean anything else you want to mention. Check the bikes out, the Crusaders, awesome bikes.

Speaker 2

The bikes are fun, the Crusaders are fun, absolutely. For sure the 3.0 is few Havocs out there for sale too. Somebody needs a boat. You still got some A couple.

Speaker 1

Hey, check them out, your man, will Fagan, here in Conway. I wrapped this up. Catch you guys on the next one.