HUNTING SEASON IS HERE!!! | Ep075 | Off The Clock with B Scott

Fall is in the air, and the Havoc Boys can barely contain their excitement as hunting season approaches. In this laid-back conversation, Jake, Shocklee, Darryl, Dad, and the team share their upcoming adventures and recent experiences that mark the transition from summer fishing to fall hunting.

Fresh off a successful event at Riley Green's bar in Nashville where they gave away one of the first Mud Buddy (not even publicly released until late September!) on a Havoc 1756, the guys break down what made the event special. The lucky winner overcame multiple vehicle breakdowns just to attend – a testament to determination that was rewarded with a cutting-edge watercraft featuring Mud Buddy's redesigned tiller handle. The team offers a detailed breakdown of the innovative improvements, including the repositioned key that prevents damage from limbs and the adjustable positioning that makes long days on the water more comfortable.

The conversation shifts to their packed hunting calendar: a Canada duck hunt on opening day, followed immediately by an Arkansas velvet deer hunt, then Louisiana alligator expeditions with Jay Paul of The Swamp People. The rapid-fire succession of hunts leaves little room for preparation, prompting honest discussions about bow practice (or lack thereof) and the anxious anticipation of those first hunts of the season.

Perhaps most fascinating is the deep dive into hunting methods, particularly the debate between traditional tree climbers and the increasingly popular saddle hunting approach. The team dissects the advantages of each system, with the saddle hunters explaining how their carbon fiber sticks and lightweight platforms allow them to hunt virtually any tree – a game-changer in places with crooked timber. Their detailed explanations of safety systems and hunting setups provide valuable insights for anyone considering making the switch.

Subscribe to catch all our upcoming hunting adventures, from Canada's early-season ducks to Louisiana's monster alligators, and everything in between. We'll be documenting it all!

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Transcript

Gearing Up for Hunting Season

Speaker 1 0:00

It's 5 o'clock and your off-clock will be Scott. Today's gonna be a laid-back podcast. We got Jake Shockley, daryl Dad, me, and here we're just gonna talk about what we got going on, what we've been doing, get ready for the seasons that are coming up. Obviously, we're fixing to go on this Canada duck hunt, we're gonna be alligator hunting, we're gonna be deer hunting. Big things are about to start moving. So, before we get into what seasons are coming up, obviously we're about to do the Canada hunt. Let's talk about this event we just came from in Nashville. Guys, what do y'all think about that man?

Speaker 2 0:35

that event was really good it was. It was a good time, it was fun. Somebody got to win a boat.

Speaker 1 0:41

It was a great turnout.

Speaker 2 0:42

Yeah, that story was pretty crazy too. Guy at the boat oh, I know, man, when he started telling me I was like.

Speaker 1 0:47

First he was like I was driving up there and my my truck was broke down, so I borrowed my buddy's truck and then a transmission blew up. I had to get it hauled to the dealership and then I had to rent a truck to haul my boat up here. I'm like dude. 90 of people would have gave up.

Speaker 3 1:02

They'd be like you know what it's time to go home like yeah, but you say that it seems like every time we do a giveaway there's a story something.

Speaker 1 1:08

It's always something. No, he deserved it. Oh yeah, like he definitely. He definitely needed the boat. You know he's bought what?

Speaker 4 1:14

200 worth tickets oh yeah, something like that and that is not me.

Speaker 2 1:17

If you're looking at this too, okay, so I swore.

Speaker 1 1:20

When I seen that photo I said I thought Daryl wasn't there.

Speaker 4 1:25

I was, yeah, I looked at the picture and I was like hmm, I mean, I would say you got a little bit more.

Speaker 1 1:31

You know, you're a little stalkier than that dude, huh.

Speaker 2 1:33

Yeah, I got a better bill. He got chicken legs.

Speaker 3 1:38

Oh my God, we have to do him like that.

Speaker 4 1:39

We don't even know, who that is, but that's funny.

Speaker 3 1:41

Oh my, oh, my god, this means it's athletic. Whoever that guy is, y'all gotta find him alright at least he's not standing in the habit, show him this, and then he's gonna have to challenge Daryl to a foot race yeah, that's the only.

Speaker 5 1:50

Yeah, that's the only. He looks pretty fast.

Speaker 3 1:52

He does have a 24-7 hat on though you're gonna know he's got a 24-7 hat there was a bunch.

Speaker 1 2:00

That's the guy that won the boat yeah, oh yeah winner?

Speaker 5 2:02

uh, mr travis, but he won a what? 1753 mstc 56 56, 56. My bad, it's all good he got three more inches, but anyways, yeah, we got to. We got to get out there and and ride around in it. Uh, with him he's. So, yeah, the next day, man, and that boat runs really good. It's the new Bud Buddy. They're not even releasing them until I think late September. We got one of the first three man and that thing runs like a dream.

Speaker 1 2:37

Yeah, he really enjoyed it. It does Turf looked good in the boat man.

Speaker 2 2:41

I think, my downtown. Nashville boat on the side.

Speaker 4 2:44

Oh, it was so busy it was so busy, I was blown away.

Speaker 1 2:47

And you know like so, because he had all them truck problems, you know he couldn't haul it back with him that night.

Speaker 5 2:53

Yeah, yeah, that's another story. That is another story, that's my story.

Speaker 1 3:00

And we ended up having a good time, you know, even after the event, you know, and we happened to leave the boat as low.

Speaker 2 3:06

Right left, the boat on the side of the road yeah.

Speaker 1 3:08

The boat actually got left on the sidewalk all night long yeah.

Speaker 5 3:15

That was a show. I wonder if we can get security footage from Riley Green's bar of me pulling up on the sidewalk and getting that boat hooked up by myself.

Speaker 2 3:24

And that's kind of downhill too. Yeah, it wasn't fun, was it sketchy?

Speaker 5 3:27

it was sketchy, it wasn't fun. Uh, wouldn't do it again really. So, yeah, was that fun. Huh, it was that fun. No, it was unfun, oh it was not fun.

Speaker 1 3:36

It was not fun at all, but you know everything. I'm sure you weren't feeling that great either.

Speaker 5 3:40

I mean, yeah, as you can see, you know we were having a good time, so you know you. You tend to feel that to the morning after those guys bought us tickets, you know, oh yeah we didn't know.

Speaker 1 3:49

There was several people there that were just balling out on tickets.

Speaker 2 3:52

Man I'm talking about racking them up, yeah, yeah, and all we wanted going to get calls it was it was a great turnout.

Speaker 1 3:58

I mean they raised what was it total 40 was it 46?

Speaker 2 4:02

yeah, 50.

Speaker 1 4:03

Oh, that's great man, that's what they put okay and that right there that really shows the new tiller handle on this mud buddy too. You know they redesigned it and, man, when I was driving it was smooth, throttle cable was nice and easy.

Speaker 4 4:14

I mean, it was a really pleasant boat to drive it was so what you guys think about the new tiller handle.

Speaker 2 4:19

You think that's something my buddy needed to do I mean, I think so being like at a duck hunt and chocolate, you know how it is. I think it's gonna be good. I like the key. The key always been the key was on the, the, the block up there, right, yeah, you know limbs. You always see people that would be like their key broke off because the limb is hitting it.

Speaker 5 4:35

So moving that key to the tiller handle was like actually a functionality.

Speaker 2 4:38

That was like to me it's kind of what, putting my buddy like a little bit behind the others because like if I was buying one I'd be like, well, I'm scared that key's gonna break but now it's like well, well, most of the gripes you hear about Mud Buddy are the tiller handle yeah, it's mostly looks so them addressing the tiller handle was a great move for sure I had no complaints on the old tiller handles, other than just they didn't look cool yeah well, I mean, I guess cool that's that's the new days.

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Speaker 3 5:07

Yeah, that's cool, but uh the uh.

Speaker 4 5:10

Also the location of the tiller handle.

Speaker 3 5:12

It's in the center of the motor yeah, but you can turn it too, yeah, so that's, that's pretty neat. Yeah, you could tilt it. That's pretty cool, yeah, well, yeah, it don't stay behind, you can tilt it. Works out here.

Speaker 1 5:22

That's pretty cool yeah, no it's going to be a more comfortable drive.

Speaker 4 5:27

Especially when you're trying to reach out and make that right-hand turn. You know, a lot of times the tilt handle goes outside the boat.

Speaker 3 5:34

Oh, all the time, yeah, so now you're so long yeah so you could adjust that now.

Speaker 4 5:39

when you start turning, you know it's more away from you.

Speaker 1 5:42

I think, of all the things they could have done, addressing the tiller handle is probably the most on-point move you could have made, I think it's going to be a huge hit for Mud Buddy.

Speaker 4 5:50

It is. I think it's a good move on Mud Buddy and we're proud to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 5:55

Oh yeah, and on that 1756, when I was driving it, no noticeable bad torque. I mean it was a comfortable rig to drive and it performed well, it cleaned up and it ran out pretty good.

Speaker 2 6:10

Probably bad with the turbo on it too. We can't live nothing alone. I like fast.

Speaker 3 6:14

I had a big, long discussion with Delta. We need to have a talk sometime off air.

Speaker 5 6:18

Yeah, those guys are some good guys, huh, they are.

Speaker 2 6:21

I got to get one of their modes. Who?

Speaker 4 6:22

all did we meet up there. I mean, we met a lot there's everybody.

Speaker 2 6:25

It's such a good event it was there's anything about it was like there's people from all companies yeah, it's just everybody getting along, do something good yeah, I mean it wasn't like your company, my company yeah no ego everybody's shaking hands like hey, saturday, it was just company after company walking up like a palmetto.

Speaker 3 6:38

You had marine works, you had, uh, you have your company walking up, yep, like Palmetto, you had Marine Works, you had Prodigy Bud Buddy. Delta. Bud Buddy I mean, it was just. Yeah, you had a little bit of everybody, everybody that walked up was somebody. Yeah, Like with somebody you know.

Speaker 1 6:55

Yeah.

Speaker 3 6:56

It was cool.

Speaker 1 6:56

It was cool man and I think you know for me it kind of kicked this thing off Hunting season's coming. You know we had that event. Now we're rolling, we're about to get ready for the Canada trip and I'm pumped about it.

Speaker 3 7:06

He's all excited about the Canada trip. There's going to be an excursion there.

Speaker 5 7:10

I'm pumped up. Dude Jake, you pumped up, I'm fired up. It's going to be so fun.

Speaker 2 7:14

We're going to be there. Opening day.

Speaker 3 7:15

Opening day dude Bunch of dumb.

Speaker 5 7:21

Nothing.

Speaker 2 7:21

They haven't made it down the flyway to see a bunch of idiots with mojos.

Speaker 3 7:24

They haven't seen nothing. Colt Talley told me when the guy we're going with. He said now the ducks might not be colored up yet. We don't care.

Speaker 2 7:35

We know what color they are. We know what color they are when they get down here.

Speaker 1 7:40

Yeah, you know, joe, it's funny because we were actually getting our passports and we're sitting in the lobby waiting and there was a guy he had a White River shirt on and he's sitting next to us. He says y'all going to Canada too.

Speaker 4 7:50

I'm like that's what we're here for I don't know, I guess we just look like duck hunters. I don't know.

Speaker 1 7:57

I mean, I think there's certain people who get passports. You know, yeah, last minute, Like yeah those are definitely some guys. They're definitely going to Canada, yeah it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 8:05

No, I'm pumped up for it, did we got some new gear came in and coming on trucks.

Speaker 3 8:08

Oh yeah, Getting sick of it all man Stuff's coming together for sure.

Speaker 4 8:13

We got a bunch of good stuff. Yeah, sick of since a lot of stuff, that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 8:29

The guys reaching out seems like we're always running behind. We're always like hurry, hurry, hurry, especially, you know, a season being as close as it is. But I feel like we got a good handle on this season. It's gonna be a good one, except for our bows. We ain't shot yet. Okay, now that's gonna have to go in the back burner.

Speaker 4 8:39

Well, we, we go to canada, we come back. We got what two days to?

Speaker 1 8:43

the velvet hunt well, the way it lines out.

Speaker 2 8:45

I guess that's when I'll shoot my bow the way it lines out, I gotta make it to the bow shop. Good, let's go.

Speaker 1 8:50

So we go we go on the Canada trip, right whacking on ducks. Boom, we come back. We jump straight into, you know, arkansas velvet hunt. Right, that's over. We go straight in alligator hunting. Yeah, like bam, bam, bam. So, like in a perfect world, we go from shooting ducks, killing a deer, a velvet buck, and then killing an alligator within like a week well, who are we going to alligator hunting with?

Speaker 4 9:17

uh jay?

Speaker 2 9:18

paul, jay, paul okay, paul and hunter, so we're going. That was a good time. Yeah, we're really good people.

Speaker 4 9:23

Only thing they don't like about the alligator is all the puke don't get it on your shoes, man.

Speaker 2 9:30

I'm telling you, man, it's bad, it's bad yeah, so we'll come back and go down there and hang out what butter we taking down there this year? We're going to take a uh, a mud motor and a freedom cool.

Speaker 4 9:42

So we won't take them. Well, we can take the new money.

Speaker 5 9:46

We could no no, we got turf in there.

Speaker 1 9:48

Y'all can say that nice turn hey, we could take it, but it ain't gonna have an alligator in it.

Speaker 5 9:54

We'll put it. Yeah, we can put it on a different boat. What?

Speaker 4 9:56

about what? About the? What if we take the new 1760 vj? I like that, I like the idea.

Speaker 1 10:02

It's a very good idea so honestly now I thinking about it.

Speaker 2 10:05

We should take that new, new boat. This will be in the marsh while we're down there.

Speaker 4 10:08

Well, we're definitely going to take it down there and get some content.

Speaker 2 10:11

No, for sure, we're already going to be down there.

Speaker 4 10:13

Talking about the 90?.

Speaker 2 10:14

The big boat. Oh, you're talking about the new marsh, the secret boat messed up. We got like three new boats. Oh, that new boat, the new, the new fall lineup coming out it's actually insane.

Speaker 1 10:29

Not any of us can remember what we have talked about and haven't talked about like what new boat are we talking about?

Speaker 2 10:32

like we have a four or five of them the big body, the big body, I'm really I'm super excited about the 1760 uh vj though. Yeah, it's gonna that's gonna be good. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 10:42

We should roll like five different boats down there that's gonna be like my go-to hunting rig, I think, for like deer hunting. It's such a good frame deer hunting so much space it's gonna run easy, you know.

Speaker 5 10:51

You know it's not.

Speaker 4 10:52

You know it's not a lot of work to what a lot of people don't understand about big boats is like, if you build a big platform boat, like wide, like that, and it weighs, the weight ratio is like lighter than the you know. You know what I'm saying. It's just you carry a lot of gear. You know, in the vjs it's a workhorse and that's what's so nice about it, because you're not worried about floating the nose, you're not worried about none of that crap, right? So you, you know, you want something that floats really shallow, carries a lot of gear and gets the job done, that's where the vj.

Speaker 1 11:20

Yeah, that's where the vj just slams it. Man. Yeah, that's especially when we're deer hunting out of there, because you know you might have your lock on your climber, your saddle, all your sticks and you know, and then you know you kill something.

Speaker 2 11:31

Gotta haul it out, you know, I mean there's a lot of gear that goes into that I guarantee you, that's the boat that 70 60 really would be good down in gator hunting oh, it would be perfect in that freedom rig. We put what? 16 gators, 17, 18 gators. I don't know how many years it was we're trying to get that thing going.

Speaker 3 11:44

It's gonna float shallow too. Ben's 60 is a great platform.

Speaker 1 11:47

Because of that, you know your whole shot is gonna be better. Because of how wide it is yeah, it surfaces so much easier I'm telling you it's, it's gonna be a good rig it's a good body.

Speaker 4 11:56

Yeah, you're pulling one of those aside, aren't you for yourself? Oh yeah, yeah, that's my. I mean we might go to boat because I used to run an 1860 DBS-T and I loved it. I ran a 60 Mercury on it. It was a little heavy though when you get back there in the stomps and deer hunting out of it, but then we went to a VJ-ST.

Speaker 1 12:14

I think that was a 1756.

Speaker 4 12:16

Yeah, we had a Tuatsu on it. It was game over. Once we loaded it up, we ran it and we was like, wow, this is the boat to have, because you know we'd actually get back there, get on stomps and slide off easy. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 12:29

It's not a super heavy boat and there's like shallow gravel bars we have to drive over and stuff too. So we'd like we put aluminum prop on there just to grind it off.

Speaker 4 12:37

We did we did run aluminum prop just for that reason. Yeah, because we, you know, we was grinding props and shit it fun, but we was able to get way back there.

Speaker 1 12:45

Other people couldn't.

Speaker 4 12:46

Yeah, it was really fun. That's where the VJ stands out to me. A lot of people are like hey, I don't need a VJ, I need this, whatever. That 8-degree VJ is the shit when it comes to hunting it is man, it's powerful gear.

Speaker 3 13:00

The problem is people want to buy a VJ and they wanted to do this and then they also wanted to do that, but the people that are going to buy the 1760, though those aren't going to be the same people.

Speaker 1 13:10

These are people that are.

Speaker 3 13:11

You know, it's a utility boat at this point it is they're buying it for a workforce, it don't matter if you put traps in it, it don't matter if you're carrying wood duck blind Dogs.

New Mud Buddy Tiller Handle Design

Speaker 4 13:25

Matter if you're carrying wood duck blind dogs, you know. You know, working out of it, generators, whatever, I mean, it's just a good wide platform, um, that just gets the job done. I mean just those blocks in there, it just doesn't matter, just to work or pull up at a sandbar with your family.

Speaker 1 13:36

Oh, yeah, hall, you know, yeah, absolutely perfect for that. I don't know, but in that 19 footer we got coming out, that thing is gonna be an animal too it reached for a 90 and dude.

Speaker 4 13:47

It runs good, but yeah, it runs good, good. Yes, I was really surprised. I mean, b scott looks so small in that boat right it's a huge boat.

Speaker 3 13:56

You got so much boat out there. You know it's like off the trailer for fishing.

Speaker 4 14:01

Yeah, no, no functionality maybe.

Speaker 1 14:04

I mean it is our, I would say it's our most thought out put together functionality fishing boat we built, yet it's out of a tiller handle, which is, I mean, that's cool, well, that's 12 months of bass fishing out of bigger boats yeah, I mean you just learn.

Speaker 4 14:17

I mean you just you fish out a big black. You know big glass boats. That's what we've been doing, you know, and, uh, you know road to the pro and it's taught us a lot. You know just for fishing, and whatever you can do to make it easier on somebody, even an aluminum boat, that's what we should do, you know. So we've learned so much um and big waters and um, just just fishing all around. More time you spend in the boat, the better they get.

Speaker 1 14:42

Yeah, because the more problems you're gonna run into the more things you're like.

Speaker 4 14:45

You know, it'd be a lot nicer if I could just do this that's why I mean your mom can't fish together, because especially in our boats, because we'd be arguing over shit. Why don't we do that? I don't know that's. That was b scott's idea. You know I'll be blaming b scott I know, I didn't do that shit.

Speaker 1 15:01

that's stupid, you know, that's fine. I blame you too, mom's like why are we even building this? This doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 4 15:08

I'm like he dreamed it. He dreamed.

Speaker 1 15:11

You know him as well as I do he had an idea we're going to fucking build it.

Speaker 4 15:14

But seriously, though, that's why we can't fish together, me and Mama. She gets on my nerves.

Speaker 1 15:26

I'm trying the best I can, you know you know it floats.

Speaker 4 15:28

You know shit, give me a break, yeah, but no, it's fun, it's, it's all fun.

Speaker 3 15:31

But between that and you won't bring her back to the ramp when she's ready to go. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the, that's the main. Oh, if I'm scoping, if I'm scoping, I'm locked in. I, I mean nothing matters to me.

Speaker 1 15:42

It's like I see a fish.

Speaker 4 15:47

I'm like, I'm on his ass, you know.

Speaker 5 15:49

You're on him, I'm on his ass. You can't leave him. No, I can't leave him.

Speaker 4 15:52

That's my biggest problem. I see a big fish. I'm sitting there. Well you know, now.

Speaker 1 15:59

I'm not even thinking about fishing right now. No, I didn't either. It's not even on my mind, dude.

Speaker 2 16:03

No.

Speaker 1 16:03

And it's because hunting season's right here. We're knocking at the door of it and until the bed fishing gets right, I'm out. You know what I mean. Like I don't even want to think about it. A bed fishing is fun, though, dude, you can't even replace that in your life. Yeah, back when they're, you know being fat. Yeah, you're right about that you like those fat girls?

Speaker 2 16:24

mmhmm, mmhmm if it ain't eight, I don't want it that's funny dude. So you got dove hunt coming up, don't you? Yeah, we got a big dove hunt September, same with y'all velvet hunt yeah, I'm on dove hunt too. I'm on dove hunt. Alright, y'all can kill a big deer, we. I'm going to go to Louisiana and shoot some gators.

Speaker 1 16:42

What comes after that Teal?

Speaker 5 16:44

Yeah, teal will be the next. I think we've got a trip to Kansas and a trip down to Louisiana set up. It's going to be busy.

Speaker 1 16:51

Jake, I'll tell you who's more pumped up than we are right now, though it's Tyler Tyler Shintz.

Speaker 2 16:56

Oh my gosh, he's forgot what a fish looks like. Dude, where does his jet ski?

Speaker 3 17:01

and stuff come from. Is he fixing? To go race, jet skis.

Speaker 1 17:03

He's going to race jet skis for a few days. The monster jet ski race, yeah. I've seen a video of that dude. I hope he's ready.

Speaker 2 17:09

Yeah, the waves out, there are nuts when is that I think we need to go watch that, whatever.

Speaker 3 17:22

It's a mile.

Speaker 1 17:23

It's violent though I watched a video of it I was like damn dude.

Speaker 2 17:26

Like there's a dude last year that got flipped off and everything. Really they're running like fast.

Speaker 1 17:31

They're fast jet skis and they're jumping like six foot waves and shit.

Speaker 2 17:36

I think Tyler has advantage though, because he used to dirt bike race there.

Speaker 1 17:41

I don't know, like a race car. He's always on the water. He's got to just mash it. You know, he's just got to mash it and hold on.

Speaker 4 17:46

Oh, he will, I mean yeah, he will.

Speaker 2 17:49

For sure He'll peg it.

Speaker 4 17:52

Yeah, he'll definitely lock in, and once he locks in it'll be like okay.

Speaker 1 17:55

Well, I feel like if you're in a jet ski race, these are the the two things that's going to happen. You're going to give it everything it's got and either win it or you're going to wreck yeah.

Speaker 3 18:05

Oh yeah, that's what's going to happen, I mean that's jet skis in general.

Speaker 4 18:07

Well, you got four monster guys. I mean, you know they're all thinking the same shit.

Speaker 3 18:15

They're all going to let it rip. It's going to be extreme.

Speaker 1 18:17

On Adrenaline. I mean you're willing to die for it.

Speaker 5 18:20

They were picked for a reason. Those four were picked for a reason To put on a show.

Speaker 2 18:23

Yeah, and they literally got them all to get custom helmets. They have to wear helmets, so you know it's getting serious. That's so crazy. They all have to have their own helmet.

Speaker 5 18:32

Well, I mean, think about it. You go 90 miles an hour over a six-foot wave. It's going to hurt.

Speaker 3 18:35

You may kiss that handlebar oh dude, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 18:39

Yes, yeah, I'd be wearing a helmet. Actually, I wouldn't even do it. I wouldn't do it, you wouldn't do it, oh.

Speaker 2 18:50

I would definitely do it.

Speaker 3 18:51

I would 100% do it.

Speaker 5 18:52

Okay, I'd probably do it.

Speaker 2 19:04

I'd be uneasy about mouth guard. This way would be uneasy because they have like a. I asked them how it works. They have like a 15 minute practice or 30 minute practice. They're going to practice like a couple hours for it. So you get so comfortable out there you know ripping it and then once you get in the game time, they you take off. You'd be like just locked in, you'd be, locked in yes, is it a circle race?

Speaker 4 19:19

I don't know what the track's like. It's a track.

Speaker 1 19:21

They have to run a track, I think it's buoys and stuff they got to drive through.

Speaker 4 19:27

And monsters doing this.

Speaker 1 19:28

Yeah, yeah, monster athletes.

Speaker 5 19:31

Are they going to be racing side by side, or is it like a time?

Speaker 2 19:33

deal. No, it's all of them at one time. That's crazy, yeah, side by side. That's what I'm get it to you really fast.

Speaker 3 19:39

Sound like some kind of what is it called dinghy racing yeah, kind of we need to raise we need to bring that to the states what monster involved with some havoc dingy race.

Speaker 4 19:48

How come they pick these jet skis?

Speaker 2 19:49

I mean, they're just I think they're like they have professional jet ski racers.

Speaker 3 19:53

Oh yeah, I think it's just inside the company type contest maybe monster does all kinds of cool stuff.

Speaker 4 19:59

I know I mean the video.

Speaker 1 20:00

I the video I've seen of. I guess they did it last year whenever they did it. But, like dude, their jet skis are hitting and stuff.

Speaker 4 20:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1 20:06

I mean it's going to be a good time.

Speaker 4 20:08

Yeah, they're marketing guys like extreme. Oh, dude, it's, Monster I know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 20:13

People like extreme stuff.

Speaker 4 20:14

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:23

I mean they do earlier. Um, the dude on red bull yeah, that was going down the interstate on one 18-wheeler with a ramp.

Speaker 5 20:26

He flips over a sign off of 118 to the other back flips on a back, flip like back.

Monster Energy Jet Ski Race

Speaker 2 20:28

Let's go to hand more and lands on other.

Speaker 4 20:30

It was nuts what in the world? And if you watch cars and those cars going to interstate next to him, how do you I mean seriously, how do you practice for something like that?

Speaker 2 20:38

I don't know. I was thinking. I was like this is.

Speaker 1 20:39

And when it goes to his GoPro camera. You see, when he lands in the truck in front he lands on the right side of it. He almost missed it. Yeah, it was super close, he almost missed the whole truck.

Speaker 2 20:50

It was like an inch from being there. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 20:53

And you know that's like hit or miss then, like you'd probably, I mean there's a good chance you die.

Speaker 2 21:01

I mean, I would think it was literally it was a car, like literally driving right next to like an actual, just car just driving down that road, like imagine, just driving, like what? The what is that?

Speaker 5 21:12

that's nuts it is crazy, man.

Speaker 2 21:14

It's like that story where it's like the guy got pulled over and he was. They gave him like a test and the cop told him that if he could juggle three things that he could go. So he pulled out bowling pins. He told him he was a clown, he was late to the show and he started juggling the three things and the cop was like okay, you can go. Well, another guy pulled over and got in the backseat of the cop car and the cop was like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 21:49

He's like that's what I feel like it'd be like oh yeah, oh yeah, for sure thing. You know, I'm like yeah, yeah, it's over with there. It's nuts. You know, that's like born into you though the the need for adrenaline like that.

Speaker 4 21:54

That's something you just gotta have well, it's a drug man it is, once you get it, once you feel it, you just gotta have it all the time.

Speaker 1 22:01

But if you felt like you had a big adrenaline rush like that in your life, would you go seek that? Or would you be like, oh, that was cool, that was crazy, but it was cool. But you know, I'm probably going to go back to my normal day, fucking life here, I don't know and not chase that anymore.

Speaker 2 22:16

How do you top that?

Speaker 1 22:16

though Like over something.

Speaker 2 22:19

I don't know, I would have never chased, that anyway, I thought you meant like, just like, say, the jet ski stuff.

Speaker 1 22:25

Like, do you think if we all was sitting and said, all right, you know, next week we're going skydiving, let's make the appointment and we go and skydive, would we, when we got done skydiving, be like what's next, guys, bungee jumping?

Speaker 2 22:37

There's no chance I off.

Speaker 5 22:38

I was kind of that's all on bucket list for sure. We do not know what I say.

Speaker 3 22:41

We do it this year, brian's already trying to get us to do it.

Speaker 4 22:44

No brian's already skydived. But brian's already like that and he's crazy already. I mean he's. Why don't you want to skydive?

Speaker 1 22:50

he's had a kid now he's kind of coming down like what like what is he?

Speaker 2 22:54

well, I want to jump off a perfectly good flying plane.

Speaker 3 22:56

He's gonna have to kill it, make it run out of field, say something wrong with it.

Speaker 2 22:59

Yeah, we're going to be going down. It can't be that bad.

Speaker 4 23:04

Well, we can make that happen too. We can make that happen too.

Speaker 1 23:07

People do it all the time, dude, People die all the time too. Well, so do they. I mean, people die all the time anyway.

Speaker 3 23:12

But you really don't ever hear about skydivers dying.

Speaker 1 23:17

What's the chance that happens to you on the first time?

Speaker 3 23:19

what about? What about the ones that are doing it without a parachute, though?

Speaker 2 23:25

that's, that's insane that might be borderline retarded that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 23:30

That's what I'm talking about. That's the edge.

Speaker 1 23:32

I'm talking about what makes you do that that guy just flirting with death, I mean he's not flirting. He got some bigger life issues he's flirting with it. He's making out with that.

Speaker 2 23:42

I'm telling you that's extreme.

Speaker 4 23:44

No, I'm out. I mean, that's really bad.

Speaker 1 23:48

I mean, what do you tell your family before you do some stupid shit like that, like hey?

Speaker 2 23:54

I'm trying to apply with no parachute and see what happens.

Speaker 3 23:57

I think my wife would say like it's going to go one or two ways.

Speaker 4 23:59

Like you're stupid, my wife would be like.

Speaker 2 24:01

I hope you got to get life insurance for us my wife would be like you're out.

Speaker 5 24:06

There ain't no life insurance in the world that'll cover the skydiving death.

Speaker 2 24:11

There's no way.

Speaker 5 24:12

Yes, it is that's written in the small print. The small print, yeah.

Speaker 1 24:16

For sure you're losing that.

Speaker 5 24:19

It's probably in there too. It's got to be. Yeah, no skydiving, I mean.

Speaker 1 24:21

I would think for sure that, like that's one of the things, like hey, also, if you put yourself in death's way, like often, you're probably not going to get covered.

Speaker 4 24:28

I mean a stunt driver don't have life insurance probably.

Speaker 1 24:31

Probably not.

Speaker 2 24:40

The dude that did the backflip off on the inter Because he made it. He might be missing brain cell.

Speaker 4 24:43

You know, but you know You're talking about duck hunting, arkansas duck hunting With the fast boats and running the timber. I mean that's why those guys enjoy it so much.

Speaker 1 24:51

It is a rush.

Speaker 4 24:52

It's the rush Of hitting a tree, I guess.

Speaker 1 24:54

The four o'clock launch off Dude Is a adrenaline rush, and you got to know your shit too.

Speaker 4 24:59

You know you got a lot of guys that watch that stuff on YouTube. They're like there's no way I'll do that. You're running 30, 40 miles an hour through the timber, you know.

Speaker 1 25:08

What makes it, what takes it up a notch, is when you have other people doing it, like at the same time as you. So like it's not just running the course. Running the course you know you could do fairly easy, but when you got uncontrollable variables, like other people going in and out and throw some fog in there too, buddy, that's when you separate them.

Speaker 4 25:31

Luckily 90% of them are havoc and they all turn good.

Speaker 1 25:33

Yeah, so that's good, definitely helps. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be sliding around out there for sure. Oh yeah, the last minute decision in a tree.

Speaker 4 25:39

At least we hope it's 90% of them, yeah, but yeah it in a tree. At least we hope it's 90% of them. It's been fun. That's what all these guys enjoy. They enjoy the race and they enjoy killing ducks.

Speaker 2 25:51

You can get insurance skydiving.

Speaker 4 25:54

I bet that costs a lot. How much is it?

Speaker 2 25:59

Get a quote on that, darrell?

Speaker 4 26:02

Can I get a quote? Should we call insurance? How does that even work? Like is that just?

Speaker 1 26:06

like a full policy? Or is that like insurance that if you die you get to insurance that they will cover your insurance, that it's not going to cover you? Like how does that work?

Speaker 5 26:15

I don't know, Count out next week. We'll have to put that on next episode. We'll find out If we go, darrell, you're going.

Speaker 1 26:23

No, yes, you are.

Speaker 2 26:25

I'll sit on the ground with the camera guys and video Camera guys got to be falling out of the plane.

Speaker 4 26:30

David's going with me.

Speaker 2 26:33

That's something David's not looking for. There's two things I can promise you, me and David will not be on the plane on the plane.

Speaker 4 26:39

You know it would be scary, though.

Speaker 1 26:41

Oh, you know. Well, it's like everything, the scariest part would be the first step out.

Speaker 5 26:45

You would try to back out, yeah.

Speaker 1 26:47

I would.

Speaker 5 26:47

There's no doubt I would too.

Speaker 2 26:49

He would try to back out. You would talk it up and get to where, once they start making silent papers, all liability goes away.

Extreme Sports and Adrenaline Rushes

Speaker 1 26:56

No, once you get dressed, walking through the plate, yeah, you're like oh is it?

Speaker 2 27:02

oh yeah, dude, I would.

Speaker 3 27:03

Okay, I'm gonna fix the guilt he'd be looking for a reason not to like man. I got a thread messed up on my harness. Look, there's one thread right there.

Speaker 1 27:12

I'm out who packed my shoot I need to meet in person the qc guys that did my whole, the whole thing yeah, I don't know, it's just.

Speaker 4 27:23

You could talk all the shit in the world until you get up there oh, it's shit comes real.

Speaker 1 27:27

You know it's like oh yeah, I mean, see what you're capable of like mentally pushing through.

Speaker 4 27:33

So have we released a podcast yet of me talking shit? If not, let's delete that podcast I'm not jumping. I don't know it's definitely been experienced, so like once you do it, though, there's you.

Speaker 1 27:41

I don't know. It's definitely been an experience, though. Once you do it, though you're like I've done it, been there, done that, put that thing to rest, I'm good Should.

Speaker 4 27:51

I get down and climb up a tree, though Get way up there. I'm the same way. I remember when I was a lot younger. I could climb up.

Speaker 3 27:57

I'd high, didn't care. Now about 22 foot, now I'm shit.

Speaker 2 28:04

I'm good.

Speaker 4 28:04

I don't think they can see me 22, 25 foot up, that tree starts blowing in the wind and thinking I wonder how good, the root system is on this damn tree you know, you start gauging, I do the exact same thing and I'll tell you something else I won't do either. I won't climb up a tree if it's on the side of a creek bank, If it's part of the root system washed out or something and it's the only tree. I'm not getting in that damn tree. Knowing my luck, it would just fall over.

Speaker 1 28:31

Well, you know, darrell, don't like getting high in the trees either 12 foot's good.

Speaker 4 28:35

All you do is pick a tree that has a bunch of bushes.

Speaker 2 28:38

All you need to be is two foot.

Speaker 4 28:39

His sticks are so close together it's like a solid stick.

Speaker 1 28:44

I'm like Darrell Space of that little bit you got to space.

Speaker 4 28:47

your sticks out a little bit. I'm good you need ground blind.

Speaker 2 28:52

Oh my God.

Speaker 4 28:53

How'd you carry a big ass long stick through the woods? Oh, there's four of them. They're just touching, they touching. Yeah no, I usually put my sticks as far apart as I can. I try to get as high as I can. I seen b scott one time climb up a tree and there's like three trees together. He had one stick on this tree, one stick on that tree. I mean, what did you do? I've done that before he went back and forth between trees, finally got it actually.

Speaker 3 29:14

It's actually easier because you can.

Speaker 4 29:16

It is easier only problem is I like to stay tied onto the tree well, I do too.

Speaker 1 29:21

I untie and tie back on before I clip out.

Speaker 5 29:23

Well then, that defeats the purpose. Are you talking about?

Speaker 1 29:26

a safety harness? No, but the tree I was climbing. We've got to put this in retrospect here.

Speaker 2 29:30

I don't know how to use one.

Speaker 3 29:31

Help me out here, you don't use a safety harness, the tree was so gnarly that you had to get off this tree to get onto that tree to keep usually it was in illinois you need trees are so jacked up where we're at, we all may get shockingly what do you hunt out of? Usually a tree climber I don't never use.

Speaker 4 29:50

No no, we use sticks and you're a south.

Speaker 1 29:52

Or I saw pine tree hunting son of a gun. Dude climbers work perfect there yeah, you don't put them in as soon as you're getting river bottoms or something dude when we were hunting on Illinois, off the river dude, you couldn't hunt out of a common area.

Speaker 4 30:06

My tree is like on a 22 degree angle. Every tree is like this dude, I had to climb up on this side of the tree Like walk up it. It was angled so bad.

Speaker 2 30:15

You know where safety is. I don't even undo my lineman belt A lineman belt.

Speaker 3 30:20

What are you talking about? Oh my God, shockly dude Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 30:24

right now, everybody hunts like this.

Speaker 1 30:27

You don't know what we're talking about. It's 2025, and you don't know what a lineman belt is.

Speaker 2 30:32

Is that the lifeline? No, it's the one right here that goes right here. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 30:37

And you climb up the tree with it, no matter what if you fall a. Oh, I don't come out, oh, it's gonna be so.

Speaker 4 30:41

It's gonna be so fun this year. It's gonna be so fun I always take my mom.

Speaker 1 30:45

I keep both on, then I'll rig up something else to make sure you should see I always just get if I hunt a lock on.

Speaker 3 30:52

I just try not to fall out you should see.

Speaker 4 30:53

You should see david, and oh my god most people try not to fall.

Speaker 2 30:59

I think 99 people try not to fall out.

Speaker 1 31:01

the people that fall out of the tree, it's never because they wanted to.

Speaker 3 31:04

Yeah, you know I mean you don't go up there and go to?

Speaker 4 31:06

sleep. I mean that's what's so nice?

Speaker 3 31:09

I do too.

Speaker 4 31:10

I just sit there and go to sleep.

Speaker 3 31:11

Y'all sleep in a deer stand.

Speaker 1 31:18

How many times, Daryl, have you been in your saddle and you're? Of a sudden, you catch yourself it scares the absolute shit out of you so I need some safety stuff when?

Speaker 4 31:26

uh, you know, you know, when we go somewhere to hunt, we'll go in there daylight, we'll hunt all day, I mean oh yeah we'll pack our lunch whatever. And uh, unless you got david with you, we gotta take naps and stuff, you know. But you know that was photoshop.

Speaker 3 31:40

I wasn't asleep when you took that picture of me in Missouri.

Speaker 4 31:44

Oh yeah, oh, you was asleep in a box stand. No, I wasn't, that was a box stand.

Speaker 2 31:48

Oh yeah, I remember that that was just a box stand. I remember that I wish Whitney would have rung one off right in her sleep. Did you get them? Did you get them, oh?

Speaker 4 31:56

I can't.

Speaker 1 32:00

Those noises and shit like no shot. We're just fucking with you, dude no, I can't wait.

Speaker 4 32:06

I can't wait to get sticks out and get the harnesses out.

Speaker 1 32:09

I'm ready for some cool weather, dude, yeah, yeah like it's fixing to be here, we can go next week. I mean, we can get the sticks and harness out right now, dude it ain't it ain't feeling right?

Speaker 4 32:17

you know when I tie off at the top of the tree. Once I tie off, I you know, when I get down I just propel out of the tree. Once I tie off, when I get down, I just propel out of the tree. I never climb down the sticks.

Speaker 1 32:29

You've got to see this shit in person.

Saddle Hunting vs Tree Climbers Debate

Speaker 4 32:31

When you make a bad shot. I look like a freaking Navy SEALs coming out of that tree. Dude, I jump out of the thing. I slide down the thing. He has that buckle wide, screaming David's seen it, david's seen it, that that buck I shot missouri. It was the buck I shot missouri, uh yeah, so we're going out of lock on.

Speaker 3 32:54

You're hunting out. No, it's a saddle saddle all right, so we got like comfortable as shit.

Speaker 1 32:59

Well, sometimes they are, they're not there fatter you are, it is.

Speaker 4 33:02

I'm gonna have to bump on you because you got love handles sticking out of the shit. It's like a can of biscuits up there. I get real paranoid.

Speaker 3 33:11

It's like a whole bunch of stuff, all your safety stuff. You've got all your harness stuff, but you're really safe though.

Speaker 2 33:15

But you're way safer.

Speaker 4 33:17

You're way safer.

Speaker 1 33:24

Because you're never unhooked and that's what's safe about it. Yeah, you never. And then when you're up there you can uh. So you got your lineman belts on and then you got, like your uh, your mate, what's the main line called the uh tether line?

Speaker 3 33:32

you know, you tie it up there, dude, you can be hooked up you can have two tether lines at the same time if you fall like, yeah, but mine's like 30 foot long so he can propel out.

Speaker 4 33:40

He has a lever.

Speaker 1 33:41

That has a lever on it that, like he pushes off the tree, hits that lever.

Speaker 4 33:44

It's like I'll come rolling out of that damn tree boy and then when I get ready to pack everything up, it's on a little D-ring up there with a string and I just I just yank on it and it just falls down the tree. So when I so when. I take down my platform off and I take my steps off. I just propel and stop. I never touch the tree. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 34:09

Some trees they're like leaned over, so how?

Speaker 3 34:11

long does it take to change all that? It's like if you see a buck one evening, you're like dang, I need to be over there about 50 yards further. That way you want to rig that way.

Speaker 4 34:19

I'm a little bit slower because everything has to be strapped just right and color-coded and shit. It's really a disease Now I guess if somebody actually practiced it all the time, I bet they could have a tree in five minutes.

Speaker 3 34:33

Yeah, with all your stuff. Yeah, well, hell, it takes that long Tree climber.

Speaker 4 34:37

Tree climber's old shit dude.

Speaker 3 34:40

I love my tree climber.

Speaker 5 34:41

I'm the same. I still use a climber dude. I love my tree climber Same.

Speaker 1 34:44

I still use a climber. What I know? I'm just now speaking up the part that I like about saddle hunting more than anything is you don't carry nothing.

Speaker 4 34:50

I got carbon fiber sticks right so it doesn't weigh nothing. Of course you do. I mean, the lighter the stuff is, the easier it is to walk in.

Speaker 5 35:00

I'm not against it.

Speaker 4 35:01

I'm also the same guy that looks at my weight of my shoes too. Oh, my goodness, how I don't. I mean I do. I buy the lightest shoes I can buy, because if you got to walk two or three miles, it matters, don't do yeah, weight definitely matters.

Speaker 4 35:14

Yeah, it matters sure, so you know. So you carry your sticks in. You got your little platform. Your platform's not very big, you know, it's a lightweight platform. Then you're wearing your saddle. You're wearing it. It's around your waist, like when you get out of your truck. It's on.

Speaker 1 35:29

Yeah, it's on, and I always run like a backpack with me. Yeah, that'll have my sticks and my platform tied to it.

Speaker 3 35:44

So when I get to the tree I'll put my llama belt on and I'll got my sticks like fastened to my side, so I put one on the tree, I climb up, I grab another one, put it on the tree and my backpack is still on as you get there.

Speaker 1 35:49

Yes, yes, you're staying, you're hanging it as you climb up and you take it down as you come down yeah, you just pick a.

Speaker 4 35:54

You just pick a tree and you got all your stuff on you already. So we'll hunt here, we'll put a stick on the tree, climb up, tie up and just go up tree.

Speaker 1 36:02

I'll have everything fastened to me, your platform's on your back.

Speaker 4 36:05

You grab the platform, put the platform up, climb up the tree. You're there. It's really nice. It's a new way of hunting. Then you don't have to have a straight tree. You can climb around limbs. You can do anything you need.

Speaker 1 36:19

Yeah, when we were hunting in Illinoisinois dude, there was not a straight tree like nowhere. That was the worst part about it.

Speaker 4 36:25

Every tree was crooked and you couldn't hunt like, if you just want to have a climber, it just it's a no-go too many limbs. I mean dude, you might have one tree out of a hundred that you could hunt out of, but with a saddle more than likely not going to be where you need to be. That's the thing so it don't take a lot of room up in your boat. It's all in your backpack, so it's a nice deal, it's a good deal, man, I'd lug them up.

Speaker 3 36:47

All right, we're going to have to do like a Shockley training course.

Speaker 1 36:50

I think we should do a podcast about getting Shockley caught up with a. Do a video where we just like here we go when we just rig him up with like the coolest stuff ever and he just have at it you know, take a minute, do it.

Speaker 4 37:02

What couple years Darryl went through the same thing and that was funny and he still was shooting whole eight.

Speaker 3 37:07

So he ain't all the way there yet I'd shoot the best, yeah what can I say?

Speaker 4 37:14

into targets occasionally I hit one we do gotta start shooting here pretty soon though yeah, I got to.

Speaker 3 37:22

I usually, like you said day before season, get out there 20 yard. Let's go Good when we get back from Canada.

Speaker 2 37:29

I'm going to get mine all set up. It's my worst fear, though, is getting out there and not being ready though, because that shot just becomes an over-riding.

Speaker 1 37:37

Yes, dude, because you got to at least practice with somewhat ready.

Speaker 3 37:40

I usually shoot better under pressure than I do at a target. That's why I quit shooting tournaments.

Speaker 5 37:45

Really.

Speaker 3 37:47

You like that pressure? I just like. I feel like I hit one target, but I got target.

Speaker 4 37:52

panic, see me see me, I'm up in tree all day sitting saddle. Whatever it's hot, I mean I gotta get this shit done. Quit fucking around. Hit this deer.

Speaker 3 38:05

This is serious. Put it in. I mean at the end of that.

Speaker 4 38:07

Well, if you hit the deer or not, your hunt's over, yeah well, you know, you know, I mean it's true, yeah, but it's so disappointing. You know, like you put all that time in, you miss.

Speaker 3 38:14

You make a bad shot because you're that just uh tells you what the rest of the day is gonna be like shitty yeah it don't matter if I miss a deer, I'm getting down like it's over for me.

Speaker 1 38:25

It don't matter If I miss a deer, I'm getting down Like it's over for me. Oh, it is Me too. If I miss a deer, it's done Like if I'm going after a specific deer and I see that deer and I miss that deer. It's over, it's over.

Speaker 4 38:38

I'm out of here for the season, for me bow season, because all your text messages and your little group, it's like shit, I dropped my release. Shit, I dropped my arrows.

Speaker 2 38:48

I forgot my arrows. Could you bring me some arrows? That's just shocking. I dropped my whole bow out of the tree. I climbed down and got it dropped. My release had to climb back down again. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 38:57

In the same hunt In the same hunt and then I missed Open day of bow season.

Speaker 3 39:01

Put her in her stand. Oh, the second day of bow season forgot to put her broadheads in. She didn't have no broadheads, had to go back to the house get her broadheads.

Speaker 4 39:08

Oh, it's a shit show for us too. Man, it never fails.

Speaker 1 39:10

The first sit that you do. You're going to forget stuff, You're going to drop stuff. You're going to get set up in a horrible setup.

Speaker 2 39:26

Like it's hot.

Speaker 4 39:27

She's always into the deer hunting more than I am, but I ain't never been able to either. Well, maybe now again. Well, we got what? 15? Deer to kill. This year we got a lot of deer to kill, so y'all better not be missing.

Speaker 3 39:35

Yeah, we're going to Illinois for two weeks.

Speaker 2 39:37

What about the urban?

Speaker 3 39:37

deals. I know I didn't get my stuff at any point.

Speaker 4 39:39

No, no, we were actually doing something that weekend or something.

Speaker 1 39:48

Yeah, all the weekends we just couldn't do it. There were three that you could go do and we were just tied up all three. Yeah, we're at shows.

Speaker 2 39:54

Do what we're at the shows. Yeah, yeah, and we got too much of the crap.

Speaker 4 39:58

It's busy, it's just busy, busy, busy.

Speaker 2 40:00

Clap our old duck.

Speaker 4 40:01

Yeah, we got to head to that's first things first. Yeah, a couple days we're heading to Icon. Want to tell us about that, Darrell?

Speaker 2 40:09

Yeah, we're going to head over there and hopefully be able to work out some with them and get ready for Road to the Pros. Yeah, got a couple big sponsors going to help us out next year on the Road to the Pros. Yeah, after we the road to the pros after we get through hunting season. So you gotta stay tuned for that.

Speaker 4 40:22

We're gonna do a lot of big stuff next yeah, I'm right, I'm pretty, I'm pretty excited about seeing their, their plant and everything yeah, I'm pretty pumped, you know icon.

Speaker 1 40:29

You know icon builds a nice boat and, uh, it's pretty neat seeing all that technology and yeah, I'm excited to see it, you know, because, like you have envisioned in your mind what you think it is it looks like and I like to just go and look at the you know plants and stuff, because it's always different than what you thought, and I like boats in general not just boats. I mean, I mean, yeah, he's got to build fiberglass.

Upcoming Hunting Plans and Trips

Speaker 4 40:51

But yeah, bass cat and all these companies. They build some badass boats, you know?

Speaker 1 40:56

yeah, no joke looking forward to seeing all that and it's all fixing to come to a head. Guys, these next couple weeks about to get big. All right, we're about to get busy hunting uh, maybe not so much as fishing, but definitely a lot of hunting coming up for sure you guys are going to stay tuned. But before we get off here, make sure you like, subscribe, hit the bell for notifications. Check out our other videos. The rigging havoc outdoors that's where things will be under all this hunting and fishing we're going to be doing, and we'll have to catch you guys on the next one.