The Hidden Jemz Podcast
Welcome to the Hidden Jemz podcast, where personal trainer and body builder Jesse Thomas dives deep into the journeys of individuals from various backgrounds. Whether it's in the realm of fitness, business, or personal growth, each episode uncovers the stories and experiences that have shaped the guests into who they are today. Join us as we explore the hidden gems of people's journeys and find inspiration in their paths to success. Tune in for insightful conversations and meaningful insights on self-improvement and resilience.
The Hidden Jemz Podcast
The Hidden Jemz- Tangled Lights and New Beginnings: Rethinking Traditions, Resolutions, and Fitness Essentials
Have you ever found yourself tangled in a string of Christmas lights, only to ponder the chaotic beauty of family traditions? That's where our holiday season begins, as we share stories of the memorable madness that comes with setting up those beloved decorations. We then transition to the perennial debate on New Year's resolutions, especially in the realm of fitness and personal growth. While I voice my irritation with the "New Year, New You" mindset that suggests a magical restart button in January, my co-host offers a compassionate perspective on why many feel inspired to embark on their self-improvement journeys post-holiday indulgence. Together, we question the cycle of redundant resolutions, urging a more lasting approach to personal change.
As the discussion unfolds, we spotlight the essentials of fitness training, stressing the importance of knowing why and how different programs work. There's a cautionary tale about the allure and risks of high-intensity workouts like CrossFit, which sometimes prioritize competition over safety. We critique outdated coaching practices that rely on harsh, old-school methods, advocating instead for modern, science-backed training that can maximize safety and effectiveness, particularly for young athletes. Our conversation reinforces the value of intentional and informed exercise regimens to prevent injuries and promote long-term wellness.
Venturing into the realm of body modifications, we explore the diverse motivations behind cosmetic changes, from personal fulfillment to societal pressures. Our dialogue emphasizes the significance of mental preparedness and informed decision-making, especially in the age of influential social media and its impact on beauty standards. We also touch on the delicate balance athletes must maintain between public image and personal authenticity, particularly with the rise of NIL deals. Throughout these discussions, we weave in personal anecdotes and insights, aiming to provide a thoughtful and nuanced perspective on these complex topics.
What's going on, my guy? How you doing, man Doing, well, how about yourself? I'm?
Speaker 2:great.
Speaker 1:I'm great man, appreciate you. Man Got my guy Scotty. This is going to be a full-time thing that we're going to do here, me and you jumping on. When we did our first podcast together, people really they took to it, they liked it. I mean, you know the 10 viewers that we have, you know.
Speaker 2:There's a lot to look at to it. They liked it. I mean, you know the 10 viewers that we have, you know about eight of them really gave us thumbs up man.
Speaker 1:So I figured it'd be a cool thing for us to just hop on here, man, and chit chat and then, along the way, we're going to bring on some really cool guests as well, but excited about that as well. Yeah, today I figured, man, we just, we just go at it, we, we, we hit up a couple of topics and, seeing that we're in the holiday spirits we just got done with Thanksgiving there's already a Christmas tree up in my house. I don't know about yours.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm waiting, good, good for you. I'm holding out. Yeah, my wife and kids could not.
Speaker 1:Apparently, starbucks was required to put up a Christmas tree, so they went on their whole. This is what we're doing the day after Thanksgiving deal. Oh, okay, yeah, they went on their whole. This is what we're doing the day after Thanksgiving deal. Oh, okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:That used to be the tradition in my household when I was a kid, but like now, it's just like. Whenever Heather decides she wants to put it up, it's like all right well yeah, yeah, and the wife, she wanted it.
Speaker 1:Like she sent us. We got a family chat. She sent us a bunch of like. We have enough of them so they were, you know, over the the years of kindergarten.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you didn't go out and buy like ornaments, yeah, I mean we know either they were given to us or the kids made them okay and I and I like it. I mean there's so many of them. It looks like it's themed Okay, but you know that's the way Cool. You know, if I had a, really it looks Hallmark-ish, you know what I mean at that point, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Right, I can't say the same random ones going up, and then Heather's got some, so everything just kind of looks kind of crazy. I got you dog, I got you.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we got Christmas going up. But I kind of want to jump in that, the one one after that one, the one that obviously in our industry is a really big one, which is new years right, yeah, and the new year new you whole kind of theme, right, mother wants to wait until new year's to get back in shape. What, what are your thoughts on it? I absolutely hate it I absolutely hate it.
Speaker 2:Could you explain?
Speaker 2:uh, yeah because, like in life, most of the time you don't get the choice to like just have a time to like, all right, hey, I'm gonna wait until this time to get my shit together. Right, right, right. Um, and then everybody chooses new year's to do that with a very certain thing, and it's like usually only weight loss, or like addiction or things of that nature. Um, so like I hate it because I'm like you had all year to do this. Like you could have stopped at december 25th, you could have stopped during thanksgiving. Right right, you could have stopped on your birthday. But because it's a new year, not a new day, yeah, you know, because that's out the window. Right, right, you got 365 of them to choose from, but you want to choose this one to make it a thing that, like now is everybody else's problem, to like kind of move around you, because in the gym it's like usually those people who are the ones that either end up hurt or causing issues in the gym.
Speaker 1:Or it's just like hey, man, you could have done this at home. You know you could have done this at home. Yeah, yeah, no, so I, you know. So my point of view on it. I mean, I understand that and I do hear, you know, our regular members kind of always complain. They're like, you know, hey, y'all, here comes all of these, you know new folks for the new year type of deal.
Speaker 1:But I've been in this game so long that I understand like people they're always going to make excuses and I don't want somebody necessarily starting off like right before Christmas and they're going to go blow it anyway, right or right before Thanksgiving and they're going to blow it. They know in their mind they're going to blow it. So why even like yeah, why jump in it at that point? And mine are going to blow it, so why even like yeah, why, why, why jump in it at that point? So I do understand, like, all right, I'm gonna wait until at least after this holiday season so I can go ham in the paint Now. You could have started before the holiday season, you could have you could have, but the inspiration came with with everybody.
Speaker 2:I mean look, society, society, society society moves because other people move, right they're influenced, and the new year, new you, right.
Speaker 1:So I gotta share in your delusion, then. I mean, most people do so. Why not? So now, why not right? Jump in strong. My only qualm about it is, though, is is those who do it repetitively, right? Yeah, year after year, you say like, all right, january 1, I'm starting, this is the year I'm gonna do it repetitively, right, yeah, year after year, you say like, all right, january one, I'm starting, this is the year I'm gonna do it like, yeah, you know what I mean. And midway through, not even midway through, you know, three months into the game, right, it's march, this is so you have a slip up and you blow it up.
Speaker 2:It's usually when the weather gets warm for some people kind of fall off. Yeah, like that first inkling of like oh, oh, feels good outside, like I don't know, man, I might just go do this today instead of gym. It's like I mean you got to stick with it, or else you don't get to enjoy the time out during the summer when everybody else is enjoying their summer body.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly, and that's my whole point about like is there no point between, like, march and September that you're like man, I should get back on my shit again. I should really. Yeah, I mean we got all.
Speaker 2:We have a whole thing called bulking season. You know what I mean. For a reason, like everybody, it's getting colder outside. You get to wear more Husky clothes. You get to kind of not worry about your weight as much, but like, if you're going to do that, at least start early enough to like, make it Honestly September around that time. Let's start a bulk back then maybe, or start working out and addressing some issues around then.
Speaker 2:That way you have the level of commitment built up already and you're in the mode of things Christmas, new Year's, holidays don't tend to interrupt. You're already in the mode of thinking all right, hey, I've got to watch where I'm at with what I'm eating. All right, hey, I got to kind of watch, you know where I'm at with what I'm eating. And it's not like saying you have to be strict, but just be more cognizant of that than you would be if you're now starting towards the new year and you're like all right, this is my last week of you know I better enjoy this stuff Because, like you, now you're just compounding the problem and making it harder to actually get in the mode of now I need a diet, right, right, well, yeah, yeah, but look for all of my people listening out there.
Speaker 1:there's going to be a lot of Uncle Scrooges in the gym who don't want you to be around, who don't want you there.
Speaker 2:I ain't saying they can't come, I'm just saying just pick a different time to start Get acclimated, before this new season is.
Speaker 1:I want you there. I just seriously want you to take it serious though, like right, like, if we're gonna start this thing, like start it, because again, I hate seeing that every year after year, today's the day, january 1 it's the time I'm gonna get it going, we're gonna get it moving this and that, so just stick to it all right, like, make an agreement with yourself and see it through. It's not gonna be perfect. It's gonna be some ups and downs along the way. As Scotty said, around March, around April, once the sun starts shining right here in the Midwest and things start to change, people want to go outside and start kicking it, and that's when they slip up.
Speaker 2:Just the first time. Every time I see it, it's usually right around this time of year or when it gets warm. It's that first little warm time Everybody's like ah diet, what's that you know? Or like ah, I stopped working out. You know things were starting up, so it's like well, now don't be mad when July comes around, that pool party you've been waiting to go to with the invite, or that vacation's coming up and you're like I'm not where I should be.
Speaker 1:So just stick it through, keep pushing through. See, I'm not where I should be, so just stick it through, keep pushing through. See it through Again. It's not going to be perfect, right, but consistency is the biggest thing you can do for yourself. That way, you know, when it's Christmas time, when it's Thanksgiving time, you can enjoy it, you can have a nice meal, you can feel good about the work that you put in throughout the rest of the year, right, yeah, and then you won't be a new guy come January 1. You'll be a regular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, come see me now, Don't come see me in like four weeks.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Come see me now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll take you whenever Come. Come now, all right, but let's change gears a little bit, right. But still, I think that's a whole mentality thing, right? People just again making excuses or again wanting to get out all their bad habits before they start something.
Speaker 1:So they can have this fresh mind, fresh thought, but on the same lines of like mental capacity and training, flipping kind of the sports performance training. Where do you draw the line between like rigorous workouts and then things that are just extremely dangerous, right Taking it to like what's too much for an athlete in your opinion.
Speaker 2:To like what's too much for an athlete in your opinion. Uh, training with intent. Like if there's no intent behind where the exercise is going to help. Like if we're not doing I used to have a coach hey, we're gonna do 10 sets of 10 squats. Today happened about once every two weeks or so and in my head the whole time I'm thinking why are we doing this much volume and why? And like just why?
Speaker 2:you know what I mean, there's no other, just just why yeah, that's, and like I never really got a true answer out of it and I won't name names because people know him around here, you know um, so I I never got answers, why. And then like that to me, I mean, all right, we're just doing stuff just because you don't want to really deal with this, or like you think that this is going to be the best way to bully volume into a program or um, and so just not having training intent, um, that's where I think things become dangerous. Yeah, um, there's great things to do for rigorous training. If you want to do conditioning, well, there's, we got more than enough machines. There's sleds, there's amrap workouts. There's tons of ways to get that done safely.
Speaker 2:When we stop worrying about the safety in the exercises and what that means towards the athletes goals, that's when I think things become dangerous and it like it's. Now we're not training for the right reasons. Now we're training in that ego space or ego lifting or just wanting to catch a viral clip or something that looks great to a coach. There's context within every single part of a program that I think people forget. There's certain reasons. That's why we're doing, that's why we have certain times for rest. That's why we have certain exercises on certain reasons. That's why we're doing, that's why we have certain times for rest. There's why we have certain exercises on certain days. There's why we have plyometrics on one day, speed on another, strength on another day, wrapped in different forms of those, or intensities or percentages on the weights, like all that I think matters when it comes down to being risk adverse for training.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I agree with you 100. I like that right, when you lose sight on the intent of why you're doing something. Um, and I see it on a couple different levels. I've been doing this for a long time and again have been in different aspects of fitness sports. You know, fitness training, this and that, the one comparable, which the people who do it, they swear by it and you know they feel like they're gods.
Speaker 1:But CrossFit, I knew it was coming. I mean, look, it's only a matter of time, not if you're going to get hurt, but when you're going to get hurt. Right, when you're doing something that intense right overhead snatches, olympic lifts, putting your shoulder in those type of compromising positions, and you're fatigued, it's only a matter of time. Right, which, again, don't get me wrong, I'm very competitive. I know if I got in it I would be the one getting hurt because I'm a goal. I don't have the shut off valve that says, hey, man, calm down, right. So I think, again, that's individuals themselves. When they get in it and they're so competitive and they're put through something of that nature, right, that's bound to happen you kind of get that david goggins effect.
Speaker 2:You know you're just like go, go, go, go, go. Doesn't matter what's in my way, I'm going, even this injury, we'll figure it out, I'm going. It's like, hey, man, there's therapy for that, like muscle therapy, but also probably up top too, right, if you want to look into that yeah, yeah, and I know I'm a little crazy, so I would certainly be that individual, um, but other.
Speaker 1:When I see it on a coach's level, you know, I see I see a lot of like old school football coaches and that it drives me up a wall. Let's talk um. It's because the only thing that they know is that right they, they were taught to like you got to die, to like be great, you got to like really like bleed and cry tears and throw up and puke and do a million burpees and that's still.
Speaker 2:Japan's way of baseball.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, not even joking Wow.
Speaker 2:I got a documentary for you after this that you should watch. Their way of training is militant, wow, and it is. But I mean to argue with it is it's militant training? But it is very like a lot of it's science-based. So like they're like you should be doing this much and we're going to put you through this much intensity of it for this reason. And they are now producing the second base, second best baseball league in the world, comparable to the mlb.
Speaker 2:So yeah there is some validity to it, but also not what I've seen here in america exactly. We're talking about old coaches, right, we can talk about old, old heads out here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just don't know another way, right? They don't want to pick up, uh, that laptop and do the research they don't want to. You know, go take new classes. They feel like they, they this is what got them there right them, their coach put them through the oklahoma drills and you know the back hills in west virginia and that's all they freaking know, yeah, right, uh, which it kills me when I see kids just being trained like that.
Speaker 2:Um, so that that's definitely one aspect that I see, but it's frustrating because, like you can't interfere, like can I can't really interfere with that either, because that's a dynamic that you don't really want to step into for sure. Um, and step on someone's toes and be wrong, but like if they, if they are giving that kid bad advice, at some point you got to step in and say, hey, man, is there, are you? How much are you getting from this training? Do you feel like you're getting enough or ample? How are you going home feeling every day? How do you come back feeling the next day? Because all that matters right, like it's not just they got a good workout in, they should be happy with that. Okay, I can run a.
Speaker 1:I can run a dog, dog tired, but it's not going to change the way the dog feels about me exactly and that's the difference in it and that's that's what I'm getting to like I like I don't trust me. Working out hard is is what I love. I love to see effort, I love to see people get it in sweat. Right, if you end up bleeding, you end up throwing up. That is cool. But, like you said, if there's no intent to it and I can tell some of those coaches who even come in here contractor trainers, you know and some of the athletes that they train they're just looking to see what they can stick on the wall, like we're going to go do this next and we're going to go do this next, right, and, like you said, just trying to put the kid through the hardest workup they can possibly think of on the spot, instead of having any purpose behind why they're doing what they're doing. And it drives me up a wall.
Speaker 2:It don't work because it's not one. It's not repeatable. Like you can't, on the fly, think of these exercises over and over again and then also think about a progression that should go with that and be set for that person, based on where they're at in that training. Like you're talking about having superhuman level, like reading ability of someone's body and notion of what they're going through on a daily basis, and all this to be able to put a workout together and just have it consistently stick and prove results at the end of a 16 week period that are measurable, that you could say that you guaranteed at the beginning not possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not possible. No, it's crazy. Man. I just like I said that was, that was on my head, man, I had to, cause I've been seeing a lot lady has been driving me crazy, but sticking to the theme of mental right, health and capacity, we don't. We don't get to some of these, and more so I think. Well now guys, girls, right, what, how? Tv and even more so than tv, social media is influencing people like crazy. Uh, I posted, you know, a couple days ago, which for me super hilarious, but these guys that are getting these bodybuilding bbls, that are just mind-blowing, like bro, like pause, yes, bb bbl whatever you want to call it uh, bodybuilders are getting bbls they, they are, they are getting their body structure to look like bodybuilders.
Speaker 1:It is going in looking like stick figures and coming out looking like so we're just kendalling it. Basically, yes, yes yes, uh, so getting the six pack, getting chest, getting shoulders uh, it was amazing. I just seen holes all over this guy's body where they're injecting them and sticking them and sculpting them and he was the happiest man on the planet, like the happiest guy on on the planet Smile from ear to ear.
Speaker 2:I'm doing it wrong, then bro, cause I'm in this?
Speaker 1:I'm in this gym every day Just working out, and I hate life.
Speaker 2:No, like there ain't. No way, bro, I couldn't be happy with that.
Speaker 1:There's no way, it's crazy, right? So I mean, we know, give me some height. You know what I mean. Like we're going to do a surgery like give me that six foot, the Brazilian butt lifts and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2:It's a real thing? I didn't know either, he said, is that a news channel? It's like BBC, right? British Columbia News.
Speaker 1:Oh, man, yeah, no, it's crazy out here, man, uh, but um, it's, it's, it's, wow, what these guys are doing and girls right, and I think a lot of it is what they see on social media, what they see on tv, like what's presented out there and what's realistic and what you know uh. So what? What are your thoughts on getting work done and how far is too far?
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't really care about what people get done, right? Uh, at the end of the day, it's your body. You're going to do what you want. It's your money First of all. So you want to spend that by all means.
Speaker 2:But I spent a different 100%, yeah, yeah, means what I spent a different 100, yeah, yeah. But, um, you know, I see there are there. Perfect example there's girls I went to high school with um look completely different. Now, right, got lip injections, um stuff done on breast but, or what you know. Whatever the case may be, whatever makes you happy, fine, as long as you're not utilizing yourself to look like a completely different person. I think that's when it gets too far. You're unrecognizable to probably everybody else, but also yourself in the mirror. Unless that's your goal. Again, more power to you. At the end of the day, I just think it's not something that I would sign up for personally. Now, I know there's also medical reasons or um later stage in life reasons that people do get work done. So, like women, for instance, get um breast lifts because, like, as you get older, they, you know, oh for sure, start to droop. I'll power for it.
Speaker 2:Same thing for forehead wrinkles, uh, botox and all that the I think it comes down to back to like the whole kind of will be somewhat of. The theme of this is safety and being okay mentally with knowing that like, hey, this is what I'm doing, this is what I'm signing up for, this is what I'm putting myself through, and not just making a rash decision about those type of deals or those things that you're signing up for and just saying, oh, I got practice surgery. Like no, it's kind of a big deal. Like you went under the knife, you had surgery, you changed the way that you looked. That's something you have to deal with now, either on a constant basis, depending on what surgery I've done, or a permanent basis that you don't necessarily have to maintain but you still have to deal with it and that, at the end of the day, I don't really care.
Speaker 2:Just, let's be reasonable about, like, if you're going to change the way that you look, let's remember who we are inside, you know. Can you look at yourself every day? That's kind of where I draw the line. Can you look at yourself every day and say I'm still me? You know what I mean and I'm happy with the way that I have changed my look not the way that I look, but I'm happy with the way that I changed my look because obviously you're happy the way you look. You wouldn't be going through this Right. But I think it just comes down to. Finding a happy balance would happen for you because, at the end of the day, people are going to do what they want. Everybody's going to.
Speaker 1:The internet's a wild place, people will say whatever they want about the way that you look.
Speaker 2:So whatever you decide to do and put out there, you got to be with okay, with getting just the shit kicked out of you coming back, because that's the internet, yeah.
Speaker 1:I feel the exact same way, man. It's your priority, prioritative, prioritative. Thank you, jesus. So do what you want to do. It's your money. Spend it how you will.
Speaker 2:They ain't cheap. I know what you yeah Spend it how you look.
Speaker 1:They ain't cheap. I know what you're spending. Spend it. Spend it how you will. I'm all about, you know, making yourself look good, making yourself feel more confident. But again, I think it's a thin line, right, like, are you doing it because you feel the pressures of society, because of what you see every day on social media, on TV? Right and most likely, yes, right. You want to stand up to what you see every day on social media, on TV? Right and most likely, yes, right. You want to stand up to what you believe is beautiful. It's what you see, is what you see people praising, so it's what you go for. But I think it's a dangerous game to play as a young kid.
Speaker 1:It's very dangerous. Young, I think you need to be old enough to you know. Have your head wrapped around what you're getting yourself into right, making that incision, that injection, uh, that botox deal, whatever it is and and that's a fitness community kind of one-on-one.
Speaker 2:There's a there's a huge wave. Since social media kind of blew up, especially after covid, there's been a huge wave of like, hey, take this type of, you know, let's inject, inject this, or I can't, I don't know which one. We're putting this on platform wise, so being kind of careful about the words being used, but we know the all, the uh, the alphabet, um, the alphabet boys.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Right, put it that way the alphabet boys in the gym.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, a lot of young kids are being influenced to kind of, hey, get on this, this, this gear or this, uh, whatever the you know I mean even now, the older women now, like the hot thing is Ozempic, yeah Right, like everybody's shooting the Ozempic.
Speaker 1:And again, you know, in the past I was very naive as a trainer and like thinking everything was a cheat code and this and that. That's the same way, you know, from lap bands to this and that. But I do like truly obviously it was. Ozipic was made for people with diabetes, not for weight loss. So if you need it, right, if you're extremely obese and you have diabetes, you need to save your life. So, yes, you should take it.
Speaker 1:If you're just taking it to lose weight and you don't understand, the ramifications for it what that can mean down the line, then I think that's a little foolish. Right, at least you need to be set with like hey, whatever happens happens.
Speaker 2:Like I'm willing to live with it. I think we've kind of gotten to that space with a lot of our society as just doing things with medical kind of purposes nowadays and that's that's the dangerous game that we're on because, like, it seems like anybody can have a supplement company now for sure.
Speaker 2:Um, anybody can have a supplement company now For sure. Anybody can have an Ayurvedic type of practice to sell people now. And so those things are like oh yeah, it worked for one person and me and my mom and her cousin, and it's like now we can sell this as a real legitimate product. And then you get like this isn't fitness, but the lady that had the pink sauces or whatever, like Sauce Queen on TikTok, she had a pink sauce that she would put on chicken that everybody loved Well, it wasn't food and it wasn't FDA approved Got in trouble for it, got sued and all this stuff. And like now it's trying to reel that back in Because the influence of social media has allowed us to have instant gratification for the things that we make or the things that we decide to go, do or put out there.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things going unchecked before they get back to the source and now it's oh, that's a problem, that's a legal issue, yeah, or a health issue on the aspect of the things you decide to put into your body. So I think, without that cognizance of what are the ramifications? Five, 10 years down the road, we're going to have a lot of kids and young adults and older adults have. We're going to see those commercials. Hey, did you take that back into that? You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying Like five years ago.
Speaker 2:There's going to be so many of those come from just this, probably like four from 2020 to 20, I'd say 25, 26. You're going to have a lot of these in the next 10 years of just. You shouldn't have took this buddy, but you did. Here's a lawyer. Right yeah, no man.
Speaker 1:Are you?
Speaker 2:entitled to a claim Like nah.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, but yeah, no, I think, as long as you're comfortable, you make a clear, rational decision on what you're doing and why you're doing it, and you can live with that, then more power to you, good luck, I hope. I hope everything works out well, you get the result that you're looking for. You know physically and mentally for that, for that matter, right, because you know when you're doing something like that, it's there's a mental component of that, right, like you don't feel confident or comfortable about something and that's why you're changing it. Yep, um, so you know again, you got to do what you got to do, but just would also suggest going and seeing a therapist before ever signing up to go do these procedures.
Speaker 2:But because I like, if you're willing to like, I think there's a. There's a stat that says it's from a psychologist I can't name him right now, I can't think of exact name but people with like facial tattoos have some type of like. They I think it's like trauma or some type of. They're kind of messed up in the head, basically like that's that's an indication, right? So I look at that and I'm like, okay, if you could indicate that from something such as small as a face tattoo.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, there's got to be. Like people are modifying their body, so what's wrong with those? You know what I mean. Like what's the study behind that? What's going on with those people? So I look at it as like, if you can do this without a thought in the world and then someone says, hey, that's a sign. And then someone says, hey, that's a sign, I'm like, okay, so a BBL, full-blown plastic surgery, all that, and the choices that are being made outside the need for health, you should probably go see someone Talk to them first. At least I'm not saying they can talk you out of it, but just go talk to them. Right, right, right, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So in kind of again staying in the same realm of, like the social media, like pressure and aspect, I've talked to a couple homies of mine right, and in one, uh particular, he kind of like he has me laughing when he say this but it could be very well, true, uh, I know it is for him, see, for how many other guys out there I wonder.
Speaker 1:But okay, he basically is saying that, like instagram, instagram has ruined his marriage, ruined his outlook I mean because every time he opens his feed it's some bad chick and a lot of bad chicks that are saying the right things and he's like, well, I don't get that and I don't get that, and she don't look like that and he's just kind of it's almost like you know, they say guys get addicted to pornography like well, he's, he's being addicted to, like looking at these chicks that he wish he had. It's like a false idol, right, right. So he's comparing that to what he has and it's not standing up to what he has. So he's like man.
Speaker 2:The grass ain't always greener, though. Facts. I have a buddy who used to that's kind of. All he dates is those Instagram girls, right, right, this man ain't happy. He ain't never been happy with one of them bro Right man, you know that crazy accent.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:My man went on a spree when I lived out in St Louis. He did, he went on a real jaunt.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying he was blessing people left and right, right, right, right, was not happy with one of them. I'm like you can't find one you're happy with, like not one. He's like nah, man, there's just something like you know, something was always wrong and I a problem. Yeah, because it looks great from afar, it looks great in the window, but there is nothing behind the eyes, you know. I mean, it's just facts, so yeah, no people's point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it may look good and it may it may.
Speaker 2:It may walk like a duck, it may talk like a duck, but nine times out of ten on instagram, that ain't a duck like it, it ain't a duck.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, for sure, the filters, the, the, oh yeah, the, everything right, it's just it's crazy out there.
Speaker 2:You can use ai now, you can use filters and ai and then and then like your. Your phones now will edit your pictures for you don't even have to go to like the actual, like download apps, no more. So like you don't really know what's real until you meet someone face to face in person, like, hopefully, at at a pool. Take that makeup off, like what are you working with? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Let me get 90% of it out the way first, and it usually is not matching up to what you see online. No, it's not, not online, exactly, not online, exactly.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I just think it's kind of crazy and it's no disrespect because I know my girl doesn't 90% of the time and I know what I'm getting, but a lot of times you ain't going to get that.
Speaker 1:I just think it's. I just, you know, again, I kind of wanted to go down this path and road, cause I think it's so fascinating how society kind of dictates what, oh yeah, what is attractive, what is good, what is this? And that I mean cause, way back in the day the big girls was in right, that that showed that you had wealth, that you were being fed, that you, you had means, some beauty, basically right, uh, and, and now you know, then it went to a phase where chicks were super skinny, right, like super skinny cocaine was around back then too, though the 80s were a crazy time, right and now.
Speaker 1:I think obviously you know, know, the Latin women, the black women, like the big butts, are really in the curves, are coming back. Bbls in, the BBLs are the thing now. So the trends man. It's kind of just fascinating to see how the trends go.
Speaker 2:I think people just forget that preference is a real thing. Yeah, you know Like, and you don't have to go by what the industry standard is yeah, you know, because like. I've liked all types, all sizes, all shapes my whole life, but I've had homies that are just about one thing.
Speaker 1:I ain't got no type.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, and I got homies that are just this is my thing and I'm like cool, I'll never be interested in that, but like good for you, you know. And I think people just forget that because it's all over.
Speaker 1:They're all over Everywhere. So that's what's so dope. All right, I'm going to go down one other crazy like mental kind of road which you hear on sports, and that is gender and sexuality and the whole In sports, whole in sports, in sports, right. And you know, I seen a real of a transgender. I'm not sure which way it goes.
Speaker 1:Once was a male now female OK beating the crap out of a chick in a boxing ring, now female, okay, beating the crap out of a chick in a boxing ring, I, I can't get down with that. I, I'm like I, I again, I have no problem with if that's what you want to do, and you know what I mean. You're transgender more power to you. I'm cool, be happy. But I don't think it's okay to mix physical combat sports. I don't think really any sport for that matter, but certainly physical combat sports.
Speaker 2:No, there's when? Okay. So the way that I would put it is if you can have, if any woman at the top of her respective sport can beat the top four or five in the man's numbers of that sport or competition, you should be allowed to compete Outside of that. Just play women's sports. Now, men, stay in your goddamn lane and play men's sports. Them in sports. Yeah, now men, stay in your goddamn lane and play men's sports. I don't like dude. There is no point in my life where I've ever thought that, like I've looked at a woman that is the same size as the man that's standing across from her and be like she's gonna take him right, like no it's just, I mean it's just science, right, it's not a matter of being sexist or thinking man and more dominant, it's is science right, we have more muscle mass, more testosterone running through our body.
Speaker 1:Usually, again, if it's pound for pound, we're going to be stronger, we're going to be able to jump higher and run faster.
Speaker 2:Just produce more force, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why we have different leagues, to begin with, exactly.
Speaker 1:So again, when I start to see things like that, even the stuff that was going on with the Olympics and the boxing, I think she is actually a he in that scenario.
Speaker 2:I think that came out earlier this week or last week or something like that. They actually got caught. That was pretty controversial because they had people saying like I've never felt a hit like that before, bro, could you imagine? I bet, I bet that I mean that is crazy just to equal that out, like, just from like a man hitting a woman, to like, imagine us we don't box right, right, let's just step in a ring with john jones. You would never have felt a punch like that in your life.
Speaker 1:A kick to the ribs and to be able to just stand there and say that like, hey, I never felt like something like that and truly admit that that takes some pride like the drop of pride and be like, hey, yeah there's something going on, yeah, I mean, but I felt I felt, you know again, I know they had to like go through the whole you know investigation, like figure out what was really going on. But you know that that woman worked four years to get to that position, to get that opportunity. They don't get paid usually and they don't get paid, they're amateurs in olympics. So to go out there and have to face a man that you know physically was just outmatched everybody, not just her right outmatched the whole class, I I think, I think it's crazy and, uh, I hope they really put some, some better regulations on it. Um, you know, I mean like start a trans like league to or like your division, I don't care.
Speaker 2:But I've actually had that same argument with a transgender person and a couple other people and they're like well, that's. And I'm like so is the idea of having men and women's sports for a reason Like, for a reason yeah, like if we went consistently on just the pure numbers of let's go basketball, let's go track and let's go baseball, right, baseball right. No woman has cracked the top 10 of a man's like running, ever. Yeah, in track, like. As far as the let's go sprints, I don't think that's ever happened. I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened in. I think the closest it may would be long distance. Um, other than that, it hasn't happened. Basketball, there's no way you're telling me britney griner is, is taking on anthony davis, or like lebron james or ant-man, ain't happening, bro, it's, he's not gonna put up no 30 or 40 and like. These are things that they've already admitted, right, so like I don't understand where the, the couch potato gets to have an opinion about. Oh no, this should be equal. We got to do this and this is the way. Like these professional athletes have already admitted that it's not a thing like it. It will never be equal, it'll never happen, right?
Speaker 2:You had 18 year old boys in soccer um, I think it was like finland or something like that played a women's national team and ran circles around them. Right, on pure physical ability alone. Not skill, but pure physical ability. Ran circles around them, yeah, and these are grown women, right? So it's like what's to argue, what's not? Let's just keep it one way or another. You were born with one part or another. You're playing this part. You're playing with these people that got the same part when they were born. That's it, yeah, and just leave it at that. You can call yourself whatever you want. Don't give a damn if you dress however you want on the field. You had this to begin with. This is who you're playing with.
Speaker 1:That's what you got to sign up for. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no man, I get it. I get it. It's a wild world out here. So, like I said, when I just I seen the Olympics and then I recently seen a reel of another match and I was just like what?
Speaker 2:are we? It happened in the UFC too. Yeah, Like it's wild Broke her jaw, I'm pretty sure on that one Like the lady look, hey, look like she. You know what I'm saying. It looked bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, nah, man, it's wild out here, but yeah, so we went down this whole mental road today. Man, I greatly appreciate you tagging along for that one there. I'm down with it. I look forward to us jumping on. We're going to bring on some really dope athletes here.
Speaker 2:I'm excited for that as well. Obviously, you know, kind of put them through the ringer because you will have to talk at some point, the bigger that this thing gets Absolutely. Well, not just the podcast, but when I when I say this thing, I mean like their representation of who they are going to stand for and stand behind and become as a player, like you're expected to have some media days or talk to in public and you know, and that having that awareness is something that I think more people need to have, or more people we should have a class on, like that should be, since this is a thing in school now, for sure, this needs to be a class on how to present yourself on social media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Right, yes, pr awareness Boy, I mean it's huge. Hey, you want a?
Speaker 2:job later on. That's the stuff I'm talking to my nephew about now. I'm like, hey, you want a job later on. You gotta be careful what you say now, because whatever you put out now can be bought back. You know, five, ten years later, when you was yeah you was 16, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:Question, no question. I mean, we preach the same thing and that's that's something that we definitely got to dive into right with all the nil money that's out there. Um, you know, you hate to be turned down for a deal because you posted the wrong thing on social media, right? Or you didn't know how to conduct yourself in an interview when somebody asked you a controversial question.
Speaker 2:Heard a deal get taken away from a kid about. I think last year or earlier this year Posted some stuff. I'm going here, here, here Come, to find out well, coach has switched and now you're not going there, there, there. So, now you look like Boo Boo the Fool because, man, like you don't know until you don't and that's another thing that kids don't understand you don't really have no guaranteed offer. You don't have no guaranteed nothing, right Until you get it on paper, baby.
Speaker 1:Until it's on paper, yeah, until you sign that paper, you ain't going nowhere. Yeah, a verbal commit can be taken away any day. Right, they can renege and pull that thing away any day. So but you know again and that's definitely something I want to jump into and, like you know, teach the young kids coming up on how to navigate that recruiting aspect, how to talk, you know, on social media and the whole nine yards right, what to post, what not to post.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're going to post, you got. I mean, we need stop being a high schooler. You know as dumb as that sounds. You're going to be expected to grow up from about 18 years old to 21 as soon as you touch college. Right, they expect you to have that. Hey, you're taking care of yourself. Now You're on your own, you get to class, you take care of these things, you got this to manage. So the life of mom and dad doing all that at 18 kind of stops and goes out the window. Yeah, you get some help, but like, you're expected to be a full-fledged adult at 18, especially if you're a dog, if you get an nil deal.
Speaker 2:You are a paid athlete now they.
Speaker 1:They have expectations. You. There's no more slip-ups like before. You came in as a freshman. You made, made a mistake. They might brush it under the table. Let you go. If you were taking these people's money and you go, act a fool Boy, you accountable, you on the clock. Hey, no question dog. No question and that check is due every single day. It is man. So, yeah, I'm looking forward. Right, I got to get my kids up on it. All the and all the athletes that we train. It's something big that we all play with.
Speaker 2:We're going to sit down and have a talk here soon.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you ain't wilding, but like I need you to have some presence about what's going on.
Speaker 1:Just got to be, aware. Yeah, got to be aware. For sure, for sure, man. Well, again, man, I appreciate it. Great show, man. I look forward to the next one, man.