Not Your Average Feedyard Conversation W Jimmy Dale EP. 68

In this episode, we sit down with a feedyard manager to talk all things cattle, but it doesn’t stop there. What starts as a conversation about feedyard life quickly turns into something bigger—covering faith, relationships, and plenty of laughs along the way.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:05

Welcome to the registered random podcast with cattle humor and a little bit of cowboy wisdom alive. I'm Tucker Brown sharing stories from the rant and a TikTok every now and then. We're gonna keep the rants in the family and the family in the rant. Oh saddled up. Hey, saddled up, ladies and gentlemen, for episode 68. I'm Tucker Brown. Michael Stevens over on the other side. Welcome to the podcast. Do you do you go? Do you want middle name in there? Or do you trust? That's what I go by. It's just Jimmy Dale. Jimmy Dale Abner. Jimmy Dale Abner. Welcome to the pod, dude.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Appreciate you coming in. Oh man, I guess you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for guests.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Oh yeah, we were looking for them and you're the last one on the list, but this is the last podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

I appreciate it. You know, no, no. I thought we were gonna get started earlier. I didn't realize you put on that much makeup to uh before this deal. I guess the lighting or whatever, but I gotta get ready. I got you. I got you.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

I don't tell uh show everybody my makeup room. I got you. I gotcha. No, yeah, it makes sense. That's what the beard is for, so I don't have to. I understand.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Yeah, you bet.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

If I had a mustache that curled like yours, yeah, I might be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

When I grow up, it'll it'll kind of grow in. But uh you're saying I have a chance to? Yeah, no. I've got like the I am so anti-Nazi, I've got the anti-Hitler mustache, like there's no hair out there. Just the reverse. Yeah, that's that's what I call it.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

So Michael's German, so yeah. Hey, it's alright. It's alright. Yeah. We just came off a history-making sale. Yeah. That we didn't talk about that last podcast. We didn't, we need to, though. Yeah, sold um the highest average we've ever had, the highest cow we've ever sold, and the highest bull we've ever sold. All in the same sale.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

It was uh solid. One bull for leadoff Angus bull for 154,000, the leadoff cow for 100,000, and our average was 17,000.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Crazy. No, it it was good to watch. Uh what do you what do you think they're gonna sell semen out of Damascus for? What do you think a dose of that's gonna cost you?

SPEAKER_03 2:10

Well, I think they're gonna they'll probably wait at least a year, and only the owners will have the capability to have it. And then when it releases, I'll bet. I mean, for the commercial guy, I bet it'll be like 30 bucks, maybe 25 bucks. 25 bucks, 30 bucks, and then I don't know, registered?

SPEAKER_00 2:32

I don't know, good question. Isn't that cool though? 50? I don't know. I can't afford a$154,000 bowl. Just I can't personally do it. But I can't.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

I really don't that's why we've never sold one.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Like you know, the gardeners sell like three every sale they have like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Yeah. But I I don't need that bull. I and and just need a semen. I just need a semen. And you know, on on on the average cow calf producer has got 20 head, you know, for 600 bucks. You're breeding to the best bull. The best bull in the Angus breed right now? I'll say it. You may not, but the best bull in the Angus breed right now. Debate I like to say debatably first, clears you of all.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Oh, okay. Debatably. Debatably, yeah. The best bull in the he's he's pretty sweet. Uh the but the sale was incredible. The only thing, the only problem was that we didn't have more of them.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:25

Which is why they're all so high right now. Yeah. That's a good problem to have. It is. So we're setting up for that October sale. The weird thing is, whenever we have sales like that, anytime we have a record sale, the next year or the next sale tends to go down. I don't know if it's um I feel like we lose our the people who didn't get anything bought, right? Don't come back. And then that we lose that customer, and so we don't have that floor. Like it seemed like the floor was at like 14,000.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

Yeah. And then what happens is the next sale, we have those high-end bulls at the front, our medium ones hold their end, and then at the bottom, those fourteen thousand dollar guys aren't there, and then it drops to like nine to seven. Yeah. And then guys who do come back, they're like, Whoa, dude, I just stole these bulls.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Yeah. Sounds like second Wednesday in October, Dropmore, Texas place to be. You know, it might be.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

Uh that's that's what happened last time. In 2016. Yeah, 2016 when the market was so high, we averaged 10,000. We were like, Whoa, never another bad day.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:31

And then the next sale was like, There's your bad day. We averaged like 6,500, and we were like, what just happened? Yeah, you bet. Crazy. And then I got to haul Damascus.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Yeah, I saw that. I figured Donald wouldn't allow that. I figured you're just loading him up in the dark. But I'm glad they trust you like that. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Yeah. Nobody knows. Yeah. Load him in the dark. Yeah, I just had to take him to Elk City. You ever been there?

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Yeah, actually, uh, I grew up in uh Cheyenne, Oklahoma. So Elk City was like our big town. That'd say not far. Yeah. Uh me and world champion Sage Kimsey went to uh elementary school together for a little bit. So teach him how to ride. I did, I did. Uh actually we were in a play day together and uh we were running down the return alley because that's what you do when you're five years old. Of course. And uh he ran under a limb. His horse knocked him off the back of his horse. I guess he learned to ride one better now. But yeah, I'll I'll take some credit in that. You bet. As you should. I should. I mean, I taught Wesley Thorpe. Yeah, no, yeah, I remember that. I was there. I saw him there. Yeah. Yeah. That arena just north of town.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I remember I uh it's a great story for like two truths and a lie of where I say I beat Wesley Thorpe in a row. Yeah. It was a JKRA and we were 12. Hey. But that's that's a w still counts. Yeah, it's still accounts. Yeah, so that that's my one of my favorite things to like two truce and I did it on the uh live with Lucia last year's NFR.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

Um Anthony Lucia had a which we had a podcast with him, if you haven't heard it. I did. It's awesome. It is awesome. One of my favorite ones. But he had a live with Lucia show. And uh this is where I tend to be. Somebody backed out, and then like my sweet spot is just being in their mind. Right. To where when they get in a bind, I can jump in. And that's what happened. Somebody backed out on him last second, he called and he said, Dude, I need can you jump on? And I'm like, Yeah. Yeah, you bet. I'll jump on. Okay. And uh so two, we played two truths and a lie, and I said that one, and he was like, Yeah, right. And then I was like, Yep, I beat him. He's like, Where? What number are you? And I was like, We were 12. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

I I just tell everybody I was number 12. Number 12, number 12. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they go that high. That's all right. They do for me. That's what that's what I am, you know. But no, being available like that just helps your business in any way. I mean, we ended up getting a client at the feedlot that uh he called me. There were some tornadoes north of town, and he called me and he said, Hey, is there any way you can receive some cattle tonight? Like we're roads washed out, we can't get cattle to us. I said, Yeah, you bet. It was like two o'clock in the morning. I mean, we can literally see the tornadoes. And we unloaded them, and he's been bringing us cattle ever since. So just being available like that, you know, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

Well, let's go there. Uh Jimmy Dale Abner, feed yard owner. Uh, we got to we grew up together, went to the same FFA things, uh, played sports against each other, yeah, went to a lot of uh cattle conventions together.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Yeah, now we're on a podcast together.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Yeah.

unknown 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

So I I want to correct you real quick. I don't own the yard. My dad owns the yard. Okay. Um, I just I run it. Um kind of similar to your situation, I guess. So no, my dad owns a yard, and uh so he was an ag teacher and he retired three years ago and wanted to move back closer to the grandkids and asked me what I was doing. And um at the time I was trying to build a feedlot on some family land, and there was five pipelines running across there, and four of them approved our plans, and one of them said no, so that means no. And uh I I was pretty worried, you know. I that was my goal, my dream for a long time. And I just kind of went to God and I said, Hey man, you know, I thought that's where I was supposed to be. What are we doing? And um I ended up calling on a yard that that we did purchase and talked to him about it. There was no cattle in it, it had been sitting for a while, and he didn't want to sell it to me. And I said, Okay, so we waited a couple months. My dad called him, and you know, just the age thing probably helped a lot. Sure. He said, Yeah, let's let's look at it. And so uh dad closed on September 1st of 2024. So we've been there about a year and a half, and um, it was pretty rough, you know. It'd been, I don't want to say, you know, neglected, just hadn't been used um in several years. So we had to fix a bunch of fence and a bunch of pins, bunks, swaters, you know, there were 63 pins there when we got there, and about 35 of them were usable. And now we've got all but one that's usable. And I'm gonna have to rent a big piece of equipment to fix the water line at the end of it. So um, but yeah, I'm I'm happy to be here because I feel like the feed feedlot industry's been getting some hate on your show. Like everybody's yeah, everybody that's talked about. I was at a feedlot for a year, I was there for a summer. I'll never go back, I'll never go back. So uh it's tough, dude. It's tough. It is, it it's cowboy as you. Well, I don't know about it. I ain't as tough as you. Uh ain't as goofy as me, maybe, because I I I tell you, it it definitely has its its quirks and advantages and disadvantages. Um, I really like the business side of things and and trading cattle and and getting cattle in, you know, knowing that in 120 days they're leaving. Um I really enjoy the numbers behind it, but uh it's good for me, you know. Uh I'm kind of a nut, I'm a squirrel. And uh if I do the same thing every single day, that's not good for me. That's not good for my health and my mental health. And so at the feed lot, I never know what I'm doing. You know, I know what my morning looks like. I'm gonna ride cattle every morning. Um, but after that, I may be grinding hay, I may be welding, I may be on the phone, politicking, you know, trying to get cattle in. Um and so just the diversity that we have there, it it's really good for me, and I really enjoy it. And yeah, um that's the truth. But how many, you know, how many cowboys do you know that like that business side? Not a lot of people, not a lot of cowboys, right? Uh and I I think there's a distinction between a cowboy and a cattleman, and and agreed. Both of them have their place in this world, and both of them are doing what they love and need it. Um and needed. Yeah, I I was a cowboy for for a long time. I mean, that's my wife. Uh I tell everybody, you know, my wife dropped out of nursing school to marry some broke cowboy, and um they all say, well, mistakes happen, you know, at dancey, and then I'm like, oh no, that was me. So uh no, there there was an event my wife. Who's in the peanut gallery, by the way? Yeah, uh, my beautiful wife, I tell you. She's good looking, man. I tell you what. Um, you have to deal with him all the time, huh?

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

So actually working. Yeah, so we yeah, we we jumped all in on this deal. So uh dad would. What'd she say? She she actually works for me. Okay, I didn't, I had the ears and I'm not sure. Yeah, no, you're good. She works for me. Um we we jumped just head first. I mean, went all in on this deal, turned back some lease country we had that we were running some earlens on and and running some cows on. We sold every cow we owned um because I just knew I wouldn't be able to be at the yard and then go in and check in those lease places. So uh we moved into the office building at the feedlot. Uh we pulled our kids out of school, we homeschooled, and she left her very, very lucrative oil field job to be there and support me. And so uh yeah, we went all in. We went all in, and I'm I'm a blessed man. I got I get to work hand in hand with my family every single day. And uh somebody asked me the other day, my son, he's a freshman in high school now, which yeah, uh freshman in high school. He's starting varstein on the baseball team, starting, uh leading off. I mean, the kid's athlete, he's got that hybrid vigor and him that helps. Got that from you, yeah, yeah. No, no, not at all. But uh he uh he's I mean he's super athletic. He he really uh enjoyed like wannack play and stuff like that, and he shows, and and so there was a parent that was like, man, we'd really like Luke to come back to school. Like, you know, he's he's just an asset, he's really cool. And I said, 10,000 a semester. And they said, what? I said that's what it's gonna cost you. I said you're gonna hand him 5,000 cash, you're gonna hand me 5,000 cash, and then I'll enroll him in that semester. I said, because one, I can't replace him. Yeah, you know, he's 15 years old, he drives a feed truck, he rides cattle. Um, I was in a bad wreck, I don't know, about a year ago and couldn't get on horse, and he's bringing sick cattle to me. Um that kid is just so impressive for his age. He's gotten five loans to buy cattle himself. Nice, he's paid them all off in advance. He knows what interest is. Um, he's gonna be more financially literate. Well, he probably already is more financially literate than 90% of the freshmen and and sophomores in college. I mean, um, so I I love what we do. Uh, it does come with its challenges, you know. Like if we had an HR department, I'd probably get in trouble for sexual harassment on my secretary. But um, I'm the HR department, so they just hand it to me and I throw it away. But um, it's hard when they're that good looking, you know, Mike, I'm telling you. But uh it's uh it's a bit of advice. If you're gonna sleep with your secretary, go ahead and just marry her. It helps. So uh Mike needs some dating advice. Do you have any? Yeah, well, um don't do what I did. Don't do what I did. So uh I chased Dancy in high school, just not hard enough. And uh I asked her out on a date, and then the girl I had just broken up with was a crazy, crazy barrel racer, and uh she talked me back into going with her, so I had to call Dancy and say, Hey, I'm gonna get back with my ex. We can't go on a date. But then she didn't talk to me for like three years, so yeah, had to earn her back. Yeah, yeah, and it wasn't easy, she didn't make it easy, but I don't know. That that was kind of enticing. That and you know, her rear third helps a lot. And I tell you, I I tell you, you know, Mike, like when you go to date a girl Do you need a mute button you for help? You you need to you need to look at her damn. My mother-in-law is good looking, okay, and I'm confident enough to say this. All right, so I knew that when I was taking this heifer in that she had the genetics to to really you know like her body. Yeah, yeah, you bet. And uh I tell you what though, man, that and this is super important on the cattle side, like phenotype and epds don't always match, right? So she is just extremely good looking. Structurally, well, she's not structurally correct. She's the only woman I know that is knock, knee, and pigeon toed at the same time. I think that's what makes that muscle in the rear, so we may breed some cattle for that. But um Cavanese, zero, zero. Uh oh, two C-sections. Okay, so Cavanese was awful. Milking. Growth, baby growth. Yeah, milking, horrible. Um, they were all on formula the whole time, but uh no, good looking kids. They grew really good. Uh so no, that's hot in here. Yeah, look look at look at the the dam of the the potential wife.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Um, that's smart.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

But no, in all honesty, when when you choose a life partner, you know, when when I started Mulberry Creek Cattle Company, which is my business, um I started it on a whim. I I was working for a guy at at the sale barn, and I I made a deal with him. Let me resay that. Uh I was working at the sale barn for a guy that was managing it. He was just a buddy of mine who needed help, and I told him the only way I'd come work at the sale barn is if I got to load every truck. And he's like, Why do you want to load trucks? I said, because I need to meet people. You know, that that's what's gonna help me in my life. So I had business because she my wife made me some business cards, and it just literally said my name, my phone number, Cattleman Entrepreneur. That was it. And I just handed them out to everybody. And it paid off because about six months later I got a phone call, and Philip called me and he goes, Jimmy Dell, I'm I I messed up. And I said, Well, what can I do for you? And he said, Well, I got five head of beeves going to the processor tomorrow, and I only need one. Do you and your wife need some beef? And just instantly my how do I make money on this brain kind of snapped. And I said, What do you want for those cattle on the hoof? And he said, Let me call you back. I said, Okay, so he can call me back. He told me a price, and this was in 2019, so it wasn't where we are today. And so I said, Well, can I run some numbers to give you a shout back? He said, Of course. So I hung up the phone, ran some numbers really quick, called him back, promised to buy those cattle if he delivered them to the processor. You know, whatever they weigh, when you drop them off at the processor, which I was getting the shrink on the truck right over there, whatever they weigh, I'll pay you right there. So processor sent me what they weighed or sent me pictures of the scale. I did not have the money to buy those cattle. Did not have the money. I mean, just it wasn't a thing. Within 30 minutes, I'd come up with a name, a brand, a logo, made a Facebook post. Hour and a half later, I sold out a beef. Sold four full beeves in an hour and a half. Then I tell my wife, hey, I just spent, you know, like 8,000 bucks on some cattle. She said, we don't have 8,000 bucks. I said, no, we're gonna have to go get some deposits. So uh I ended up ducking him for about three days, and then I got a check to him, and that's what started it. And then, you know, I realized, hey, I've got an eye for cattle. You know, I went to college on a livestock judgment's carship, like I can pick good cattle. And so before we even owned our own cattle, I was going to feed lots that may have some, you know, one-offs or uh just something that didn't fit a load, and I'm buying fat cattle from them, and that's how we supplied our beef business. And so that's what started it right there. But the support that she had when you when you pick a wife, you know, to be able to gamble like that and her to believe in you, that's that's more valuable than anything in this world. I mean, and and there's days where I don't believe in myself or that I'm worried about something, and she comes to me and reminds me, hey, you're Jimmy Damdale. You know, do your thing, you know what you're doing, you've come this far. Let's go. A pillar.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

JDD.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Yeah, JDD.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

So it's what the Bible says.

SPEAKER_03 18:03

Says Jimmy Damdale. I don't remember that. The wife is a pillar. The wife is a pillar.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right. Abner's from the Bible. My last name. Really? Yeah, he was a uh he was a warrior in Paul's uh army, and then when David became David, uh he moved over and was like David's favorite warrior, one of his best friends. And the other warriors got jealous of him, so they sent him out into battle by himself and retreated and let him get killed. So and David wept, David wept, so pretty cool dude. Yeah, to have somebody that you know slave Goliath cry over my namesake. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Yeah, we hadn't we're studying the life of David, and we're we're not at that point yet. So you'll get there. Yeah, now I'm gonna remember that part. Yeah, so there you go. There's your dating advice. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

Dating advice, a couple turns and returns, but yeah, yeah, you can cut like an hour and a half of that out. We've been here for a while. That'll be great.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

I liked it, it was funny.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

So, feed yard manager, yes, sir. And what uh what what got you to that? I know there's a long story in that.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Yeah, so short and sweet version, um, being an act teacher's kid, not coming from a place that was gonna be handed down. I knew that to do what I wanted to do, I wasn't gonna be able to run a cow calf operation. And you know, where we're at, it takes a lot of acres to run some cows. So if I can chop that land up into pens, I can run more cattle. And um trading cattle is is more liquidable, and there's always money to be made. You know, I make my money on the buy, and it was just really, you know, attractive to me in that sense of I can build something big enough. You know, one of the worst decisions I ever made was having four kids, and so everything I break up is gonna get split four ways, and so it's gotta be pretty dang good for it to be you know attractive for them. And so that's that's kind of like where I'm going is is just I gotta I gotta build something that's big enough to be cut four ways and still be valuable to those kids. And I knew I wasn't gonna do it on the Cal Caf side, so yeah, that's kind of what inspired that.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

Yeah, that's tough. I liked uh which feet yard business a little tough right now with the shortages and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Extremely tough.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

That's uh but how many people do you know? Like the guys that that took the I heard it once, they're like, man, they took the opportunity, and they're like, well at the time it was a risk.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 20:41

And I uh that changed my mindset on it, and I was like, oh yeah, they did. Because then it probably wouldn't have made sense.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

Because imagine if we were buying if we were buying cattle four years ago, if we were buying cows or calves four years ago, and we're like, dude, I can't do that, it's too expensive. Yeah. I'd be screaming at myself four years ago, like, dude, buy them all.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Well, I I sold a set of heifers. I'd uh bought some really, really nice heifers that were light, developed them at the yard, put a bowl on them, sold them as exposed. This was spring of last year. I sold them for$3,200 a head. And there was there was a guy from where my wife's from, he called me. He's like, hey, what do you want for them heifers? I said$3,200 a head. He laughed at me. He thought I was an idiot. And he was like, Well, when you when you get a realistic price, call me back. And I said, okay, but I mean I knew the genetics, they were they were fancy, they were they were really nice heifers. And a set of brothers from Merkle, um, good friends of mine, they called me and they said, We want them. Like, this is gonna be our start, we want them. Yeah, and so I sold them. And they called me this year and they said, uh, I think we're gonna sell these as pears. And I said, I don't blame you. Well, I don't either. I don't blame you at all. And so that one guy passed on some really nice cattle because the price was something that he He hadn't been used to. And them boys made a pretty good lick on just caving them out. So um yeah, it it was a big risk to buy the feedlot. We're probably still in that risk stage. Like uh I'm an optimistic person. I always try to look, you know, at what can be. Um so we're we're definitely still in that risk stage, you know, things are touch and go, but uh I'm gonna do whatever it takes to hold on to that place. I'm not I'm not going down without a fight.

SPEAKER_03 22:26

I mean has that border, Mexican border closing changed anything for you?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

Yeah, yeah, there was there was several buyers um that just don't have cattle, you know. That's that's where they got their cattle from. Um and and there are still some cattle out there to be bought, you know. You just I tell everybody the equation's the same, the variables have just changed, you know. So um get inventive with things and there there's cattle that we buy that are profitable. Um we go east, and a lot of people are kind of scared of those cattle. Um we do a really good job of keeping those cattle alive. I don't think it's because I have a magic pill or I do anything um better than anybody else. It's my name on the gate, and it's it's my dad's and and I want it to be successful. So we ride those cattle extremely hard. We ride them twice a day. We feed in the evenings, which is different than most anybody, but it's kind of backed by science with uh nutritionists and um doing those things differently have have lowered our our death loss, and we can take those high-risk cattle, and just by changing the geography on those cattle, you know, I can get them 40 cents cheaper with trucking from where we're getting them from. They come here. Well, now they're more valuable. And the first 60 days they're pretty rough. I mean, they're they definitely look rough, but day 61, you can't tell me that they're not natives. You mean it's Alabama cattle? Well, a little bit of Alabama cattle, yeah. Not not quite that far east, but uh no, uh, we we do get some Alabama cattle, some Mississippi cattle. Yeah, uh get a lot of cattle out of Mississippi. I got a good friend that's an order buyer over there. He does a really good job of sending you the right type of cattle. And then by changing the geography when we sell by heading north with them or putting them on video, we're making you know a 20 cent premium compared to our local sale barn. So I'm saving 40 cents a pound on a truckload by bringing them to me. By the time they weigh what they weigh when I sell them, that's two truckloads, and I'm picking up 20 cents, so I'm doing it again, and that's 60 cents you pick up just by changing the geography on one, you just gotta get inventive. You know, that's 60 cents a pound, you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 24:27

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that yeah, that's very inventive. I mean, I feel like guys like yourself who are uh new is not the right word, but your business is new.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

Like those are the companies that are always so creative and looking for ways that is not the normal.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

Yeah. Well, your your situation is is so drastically different. Like when you say you do something because your granddad did it that way, you had a pretty dang good granddad. Yeah. Like, yeah, if he did it, there was a reason behind it. Now, he was also really good at talking to people, so he probably told you why he did it that way. But there are so many people in the cattle business that say, Well, I just do it because my granddad did it that way. Well, what was his reasoning? You know, they might not even say it, but yeah, still yeah, and back in 1950 things were you know probably a lot different. I don't have a grandpa that was involved in the cattle industry. So my grandpa, my dad's dad was a coal mining safety instructor in the Wachita Mountains. Wachita, where is Wachita? That's far with Wachita, Wuchita, uh they call it everything. It's uh far eastern Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 25:37

Yeah, so I'm a Texan. I'm gonna say that. My dad graduated from Durant, Oklahoma, so he's okay, but no, I'm in Texan. Um, but yeah, that's that's what he did for a living. And he he passed away. My dad was 11 years old. And actually his best friend, my grandpa's best friend in the world is Jimmy Dale Levins, and I was named after him. He he stepped up and you know, and never tried to be dad, but was always there for for my my dad and my uncle. And um when I was born, they wanted to honor him and named me Jimmy Dill after him. But I don't have a grandpa to to say this is why I do things, and so what I do has to be, you know, backed by science and a little bit of gut feel and a whole lot of luck at times, but I do things because they make sense for me. Yeah, of course. And so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Well, it has to. Yeah, it has to. Well, this leads us into one of my favorite segments of the podcast. We've been talking a lot about price, Jimmy Dale. We've been talking about getting money, we've been talking about how to make the money. But you gotta know where your money goes, Jimmy Dale. It's important because that's how you make a business, right? That's right. That's right. So my friends over at Ambroke sponsor this segment, and it's called What's It Cost. So Mike and I have a few things put together that uh we're gonna ask you what you think this item costs. You give us that idea, and then we're just gonna tell you where that's at. This is meant for you to, and maybe you'll hit it. Okay. This is meant for you to to think about and to struggle because a lot of times there's a lot of ranchers that don't know what it costs. 100%. And Ambrook helps us do that. These may be things outside of your business. But what's it cost, Mike?

SPEAKER_02 27:09

Okay. We're gonna do an eight-foot J bunk. It's concrete.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Oh, I'm gonna guess 270 bucks.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

459.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

459. Yeah, that's probably why we we don't have those. Yeah, we got some metal 24-inch ones, so we have to shovel out, but that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

You got a um John Deere 6110M? I don't even know what that means.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

I don't even I'm I'm not a farmer.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

2023.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

It's like 2023 tractor?

SPEAKER_02 27:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

We we just think a tractor like that would run. It's uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

I'm gonna be like Trump. It's gonna be a million. It's gonna be a million. I don't I have no millions of dollars. Millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

124,000.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

124,000. That's is that a little tractor then?

SPEAKER_02 28:00

Yeah, yeah. Okay, see, I was picturing like a it's not it's not cabbed. It just has the okay, like a roof over it. That's how you cheated him.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

Yeah. That's okay. I'm I'm I every time I'm on a tractor, I lose money. I tear it up. So it's that's okay. What else you have?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Okay. So we're gonna do a uh tire mix. I don't know what brand. So tire mix tire mix? I might be mispronouncing this. Oh no. What is it? It's a uh it's a mixer wagon. Uh a K Zirit tire mix. I that's I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Like like it's orange. Okay, so pull behind the tire mix.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Yeah, pull behind a tractor. Yeah, um, feed mixer.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

I've never heard of that brand. Um, but I priced a vertical mixer the other day and it was like 82,000.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Yeah, this must be like a Timu one, 28,000. How big is it?

SPEAKER_00 28:52

Hang on a second. See, I I don't feel like I'm getting all the facts here, Michael. Come on. Yeah, that that makes us like a bowl of cereal amount of feed. It's a 45 horsepower. So you're not letting me know the sizes.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

It don't say no size on there.

SPEAKER_00 29:05

A horsepower, 45 horsepower. That's a little b tractor. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do know that. I didn't see I didn't see that part. That's for feeding sheep.

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Well, well, uh, here we go. Let's uh let's get you another one then. I'm bombing at this.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

What's it cost? I don't I don't even know this. Okay. Um the hedging seems to be extremely important today with the volatility of the market.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

And I don't I'm not a specialist in that, but I have had I have hedged some cattle that I have in the yard. Um what's it cost to hedge them?

SPEAKER_00 29:43

Oh shoot. That's gonna be we may have to cut this. Like, I really don't know. Uh we use LRP. Yeah. Uh that's what we used. Yeah. So livestock risk protection. You know, uh, I think we insured some the other day for$82 a head or something like that, you know. Um luckily I've got some really good guys that that do that for me, but no, like that's the important part. Is you had somebody do it for you. Yeah, I don't have to know it. Uh that that's what I'm saying. I think it costs us like 72 bucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

Um, but that was six months ago.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Yeah, yeah. Um, and it ranges like you you got different plans that you can choose from and number of head that you do. Um it it kind of depends on like the type of cattle that we buy too. Yeah. Um, but traditional hedging is something I want to learn a lot more about. It's just I don't know if I have the capacity in my brain to hold all that with everything I do. Those guys who do know it are yeah sharp. Uh I had a guy tell me that he makes more money with figurative cattle than he does on the live ones. And so that's that that'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. But no, that's not something I it's something I'm gonna work towards. Yeah, I'll say that okay.

SPEAKER_02 30:51

So a uh mid-size roto mix truck.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Oh, that's gonna be 130,000.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

120 for a used truck. Yeah, see, hey, there we go.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

See, I knew that one. Yeah, because I knew the size and everything. Yeah, the other one left him hanging. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. It had me a riding lawnmower with a yard. You know what a penta is? A pinta feed wagon? A pinta? No, I I don't. Is that a Mexican two? Is that on Two?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

I don't know. Fred helped me out with this list. Oh boy. It is um 437 cubic feet capacity. I don't know what that means. How many tons is that?

SPEAKER_00 31:31

Three foot in diameter. Three foot in wait, I think. Show me a oh, that one? Hmm. I don't know the brand of that. I'm gonna guess like it says 4540 on the side of it, so I'm gonna guess$45,400.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

$44,700. Check that out.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Check that out. Check that out. Uh on the side of the model number. I'll be damned. I'll be damned. Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

That's what that's what it costs. But Ambrook is like a QuickBooks, but it's built for agriculture, for feed yards, for ranchers, for um how am I gonna say it right? Oyst oyster's oyster.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Oysterarians. Oysterarians that's what you call them. Oysteries is the building.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

I like oystery building still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

Up in Maine.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Yeah, and there's a oysterion, is what I like to call them. It's a big old oyster.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

An oystery. How do you doctor an oyster? Like where does the shot go on that? How do you how do you tag it just in the water?

unknown 32:41

Oh, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

It's like on a bunch of ropes, like a row of ropes, and you pull the rope out, and it's like a big old bushel of them.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yeah. I bet tagging oysters is like milking them almond. You know, I want an oyster right now. I've never seen a teeth on.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

You know it's crawlfish season.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Oh, is it? It is crawlfish season. Well, that was by Ambrook. Yeah, you see. Thanks, Ambrook. We love them. I'm subscribed to him. I I am subscribed. Is that right? I am You're a subscriber? A subscriber to Ambrook. I use Ambrook. I use Ambrook. Yeah, they're at the sale. Yeah. Um, well, this takes me to one of my favorite segments of the podcast. Um, the bedrock tough question. Welcome to the bedrock tough question. Brought to you by Bedrock Truck Beds. The toughest truck beds there are, and that's why we use them. Get one today and find out for yourself. And now back to the bedrock tough question. Alright, the bedrock tough question, by the way. We're getting a new bedrock truck bed.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

Sure are.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

It's gonna go on a new rig we're getting. It's my first new rig since I've come to the ranch.

SPEAKER_01 33:46

Oh, heck yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Finally, finally earned my way to a new one. Landum got one before you, though, right? Oh, yeah. Everyone has. I figured so. The bullman, the last bullman. I mean I was like, what am I doing? So we're getting a new bedrock truck bed put on that. So the bedrock, tough question. We have them because they're the toughest ones around. But Jimmy Dale, what is the toughest thing about working in the what about you working in the feed yard?

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Oh, right now it's it's cattle, cattle procurement, a hundred percent. I mean just getting them. Just getting them in. Just getting finding people that that are buying cattle still, finding people that want to send cattle to the feed yard. Um, and and right now is a hard time. Like there's wheat everywhere. And so uh I hate trying to put them on wheat. Yeah, yeah. Which they don't perform as good, but the cost is a lot, you know, a lot cheaper. And those cattle, they sell better coming off wheat if they you know, if there's some compensatory gain for the next guy to buy, um, which we don't try to get those cattle, you know, super fat at 900 by any means. Um, but just getting cattle in. And and and we've been we've been hustling it, you know. So we made a trip to Mississippi um oh, about three weeks ago, I guess. And we stopped at every sale barn from the bottom to the top. Yeah, so we left San Antonio, Texas, drove across the bottom part of Louisiana into Mississippi, headed north, got to meet Brett Favre. That was kind of cool, and then stopped at every sale barn on the way and the way back and met some kettle buyers, met some producers, and um jumped up some business that way. So it it was it was good. And that's that's another thing too. Like, I don't mind getting in the pickup and going. I don't mind getting on the phone and calling. You know, I I had a guy that's been in this business longer than me, and he called me and he he's kind of in the same boat. He said, Jimmy Dill, how do you how many cattle do you have? So I told him, he's like, Well, how do you how do you got that many? I said, I pick up the phone. You know, I I've called every state association from here to Florida. Um, so I just hustle it. And um that's pretty much what my social media is for me. Yeah, yeah, you just the phone. Yeah, you're gonna get out of it what you put into it. And and there's times where that means I'm not riding my two-year-old that I I would much rather be on that two-year-old. Um, I'm in the office, I'm on the phone, I'm I'm doing Skype meetings or or whatever that looks like. And um, but yeah, that's definitely to answer the question, the toughest part is just getting cattle in right now. And uh I'm probably the only man in the cattle industry, and we're gonna get canceled for this, is uh when it rains and when cattle prices are high, my business struggles. So when it's dry and cattle prices are low and they need feed, I'm doing the best. And it's so it's it's not that I don't pray for rain. I just don't, well, I I don't pray for it not to rain. I just don't pray. I I leave the weather up to Jesus, whatever he decides to send me. Um, but no, you know, being at a feedlot when you get five inches of rain like we did last fall. That's brutal. Oh my gosh, it was nasty. I'm still getting mud out of my ears from that deal. I mean, that was just bad. Um see that that's the that's the toughest part of my job is just getting kettle in at this point.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

Well, with uh I mean look at uh that's probably a lot why the Lovick feeders shut down.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Yeah, and I I've got some opinions on why that shut down too, but no, that that was definitely a big part of it. Uh I think it's probably easier to um it's not as muddy when you go to settle up who owns what and to when there's that many people involved, when there's cattle on the yard. Yeah, yeah, when there when there's cattle in the yard, it's a lot muddier. Um so to make a real estate deal easier, um, that might have might have been played a part in it. You don't have to put that in, like maybe not, but I I do think that that was probably part of it because there was a lot of cousins and stuff like that. Sure. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:39

I mean I hadn't thought about that. I haven't thought about it much, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

I just yeah, I know they got a lot of Mexican cattle. They did, they had a lot of them. And actually, one of our clients is married to one of the owners. So that's kind of cool. Yeah. And I think that's gonna send us some more business. I'm hoping.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

So yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, it's sad that they closed, but it's also scary too. Like somebody like that that's been in the business for 70 years, they closed down. It kind of makes everybody's head Yeah, yeah. Start swiveling. Yeah. What's going on? A little sweating the bull. Or sweating bullets a little bit. Yeah, sweating the bull. Hey, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 38:13

Or shooting it, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Shooting the bull, stepping in it, smelling it.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Well, what do you think about this? Uh, you know, it's warming up, and there's been a lot of talk about the screw worm. Starting to warm up. What where was the last one found? 70 miles south of the border.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

70.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

Man, it's disgusting that we're sitting here talking about the New World screw worm. Do you know how frustrating that is? Yeah. That's ridiculous that that we let it get this way. And and I blame Mexico. I'll I'll just say it. Like, I'm not gonna run for governor there. So um, so the Panamadians were producing all these flies and shipping them to Mexico, and they're supposed to be let out, and that didn't happen. And I I think it in in large part is we don't want to work with Big Bad Trump, and so we're not gonna do it. And what's sad is you know, we talk about the cattle side of it, but look at the wildlife side of it, and look at the people. The wildlife side would be destroyed. I I I mean, Lanham can make a good horse, but I don't think he can make one that can run white-tailed deer down, so we can doctor him.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

You know, so or go find the fawn that was just born. Yeah, oh my gosh. And and I I really think that when people that have money and people in power, when their little weekend getaway, when they don't have the deer that they want to have, that's when eyebrows are really gonna start getting lifted. Um right now they think all the cattle guys will figure it out, but no, when it when it starts affecting their playtime, that'll that'll be a serious deal. But no, it it's it's sad that we're even talking about that because never should have happened. Never should happen.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

But it's crazy that like this is there's a lot of pieces that made it happen, but it did start during that COVID time. Of all the things that added into it, you know, COVID was a part of that. And that is that's wild to me that yeah, in 2026 we are about to we are worrying about a bug that came here because of the part of the impacts of COVID.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

And it's gonna change also some policies, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

And it but it it's gonna change a lot of what what we do in the feedlot, especially. You know, like when yeah, when we get them bulls in, you know, we get a lot of bulls. A lot of bullshit. As far as cutter bulls you're saying, yeah, cutter bulls are even like four-weights, you know, straight off mama that that they just haven't been worked. Like we're we're gonna have to cut a lot of bulls. Um, we dehorn a lot of cattle. We're gonna have to change up how we do things and definitely keep an eye on things. And yeah, it's just it's crazy that we're in this situation, you know. Yeah. I bet your grandpa when when it started coming back, he was not thrilled.

SPEAKER_03 40:50

No, I remember him giving me the look that he probably gave me when I told him why I was late one time when I was 16, but just like what? Yeah. What was that reason? Don't you relate? It was after a basketball game, Tuesday night basketball, no, Friday night basketball game. And uh he had us, he had me and one other guy picking uh limbs that he had had me cut down the week before, but he wanted the leaves to fall off for fertilizer.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

So then he had us, me and him going to pick them up on that Saturday morning. You were a little late. I was I was a little late. I was like, I just had a good game, and I was like, he'd understand. I'm gonna sleep a little longer. Yeah, no longer. And then I just remember showing up and him giving me that look like because you had a good game?

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. That just like speaks volumes on your granddad, though, because like how many guys when they cut limbs off a tree go, let the leaves fall? How many how many people have that thought? You know? You talk about the big thing. I don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing, but it's just a steward of the land. I don't I don't know how much leaves, dead leaves are gonna fertilize the soil, but the thought to have I was always thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. Just land improvement.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

Oh Rob, he's a good one. What is off the off the wall question here?

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

If someone's name is Robert and you shorten that, what do you call him? Rob or Bob, I guess. Rob or Bob. So I just got a new horse. I sold Trump, right? Okay. New horse coming up that we've raised. His name is Robert. They've been calling him Bob. I would like to call him Rob.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Is your horse? Is that considered changing his barn name? I don't care. I I've changed so many horses' names. Uh there's a lot of those like cowboy rules that I just don't care about. Uh we bought a horse named Diablo. I'm not gonna ride a horse and call the devil. Diablo. I'm just not going to. And so we changed his name. Uh Did Dilly? No, his name's Elvis now. Dilly Dilly. My wife calls him Ricky Bobby because when we first got him, like he'd only had like three or four rides on him. Ricky Bobby. And he would not go right. He liked to go fast. Go left. No, he would just go left. I mean, would not go right. And so I had my son on my good horse riding next to me, just kind of trying, and he would push that mare into him, and this horse would stop and let her go. Like, he just would not go right. And then, you know, just trying to get you to move out a little bit more. I had my son like trot in front of me so we can follow, and that sucker just went to hit and laps, like he will not be second. So she wants to call him Ricky Bobby. I call him Elvis. Uh I just I think because he does the boogie or something. No, he he's got like a little snip in his lip. Uh, so he kind of got that that curl, you know. Yeah. So got that little Elvis curl. He's black, he's shiny. Um I don't know. But no, I I it's your horse naming what you want to. Yeah. What is it called? The make believe bucking horse all the time? Teacup, buttercup? Jelly bean. Jelly bean. I don't know where that came from.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

Jelly bean.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

Name him jelly bean. It was an old uh that would be funny. It was an old bucking horse. Like whenever dad, as kids, when we'd be on the trampoline, whenever dad would uh be the Bronk or the bull that we would ride. I always wanted Jelly Bean because we would see him in the PRCA um or the NFR and he would always rare out. Because you knew when Jelly Bean was coming out, he was gonna rare and go. That's awesome.

unknown 44:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

Call him Jelly Bean. I don't want to I don't want to call him after a bucking horse. Call him Billy.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Dilly. I don't know. Dilly does. You kinda want to call him Rob afters. I think Rob's I I think that'd be really, really good. I think Rob's a good name, but uh if you want to sell him in a couple years, I don't know. You may not want to waste Rob. Like you may wait until that's the one you're gonna hang on to. Which snaps kind of the one Snap's the one you're gonna hang on to? Probably so.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

I mean he's he's 10 and solid. I wish I knew more when I started him. Yeah. Like he's not uh he doesn't really challenge me anymore. Um and not because I'm a great rider, but or a great horseman, just because I knew nothing at the time. I just knew I just knew how not to ruin one. Yeah. And some might call him ruined, but he's broke and I can do everything on him.

SPEAKER_00 45:08

Oh, I I I've got a horse that I wouldn't sell for any amount of money, and you probably wouldn't pay 500 for him, you know. But for what I do, he's really dang good. I might sell him for 100 grand. Yeah. Well yeah, I guess I'd sell him, but uh not about not any amount of money, but a hundred thousand. But hundred, yeah. Now we can we can talk about it. What's really sad is is he's retired now, and I just turned down ten grand for him right before. Did you? And then we laid a trailer over on I-20 and it ruined him. So he's crippled. But uh no, that horse, being a good horse, and and I'm not a horseman at all. Like I don't, I'm not a horse trainer. Um, but having a good horse like that taught me a lot. Taught me a whole lot. Where something that I might have made a mistake on, or something I you know messed up on training him, he just grew out of it, or he was just his natural instinct told him not to do that. He's a Hancock horse. People people talk bad about them handcocks. I don't know why. We got a bunch of that. Boy, I like them. They got a they got bottom. You ever seen Hilo Country?

SPEAKER_02 46:18

The what?

SPEAKER_00 46:18

We didn't have Howard. You've never seen the movie Hilo Country? Uh-uh. There's a reason I have three kids. You ain't no cowboy. No, I'm not. You ain't no cowboy. All right well, you need to watch that movie. And there they're talking about a woman. He says, Mona's got bottom. It's like a good horse. She's got bottom. And Hancock horses, they got bottom. They got bottom. What was it called? High Low Country. Some guy told me to watch a movie called The Lonesome Something. Lonesome Something. I don't know about that one. Lonesome dove? Dove?

SPEAKER_02 46:45

I thought it was Lonesome Pigeon.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Parakeet or something like that. The Lonely Parakeet. The lonely parakeet. No, that's that gay boy in Alabama. It's the lonely parakeet.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

It's a pink pony club actually on the beach.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Yeah. Who was it that was here that told us not to talk too bad about those Alabama cattle?

unknown 47:04

I like them.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Um I don't remember who it was. Were they on the pond? I feel like they were. I I think I was at the horse sale, the Gibbs family.

unknown 47:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Oh, I met them. Those are my people right there.

SPEAKER_00 47:16

Boy, I met them.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

They're like, we're gonna have to talk to Tucker about this Alabama jump.

SPEAKER_00 47:22

No, I I met them. Uh I I thought he was somebody else. I I thought I recognized him. Peter. And I walked up to him and I said, Hey, are you so-and-so? And he goes, No, no, I ain't. And I said, Oh. Well, no, because I asked him, I said, Are you from somewhere in Texas? And no, sir, I'm I'm from Alabama. And I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:40

Well, good impression. Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

I lived in East Texas for a while. I lived in East Texas for a while. East Texas and Alabama are pretty close to the same same. But uh, and I think those Alabama cattle, it kind of depends on where you're getting them from too. Like, are you getting them from the coast? You getting them from northern Alabama? Like, there's some there's some good cattle there. There's some really good.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

I mean, look at the difference between cattle and oh shoot. Dal Hart and the cattle and you know Houston area.

SPEAKER_00 48:07

Well, I mean, just in my college career, I went to East Sex AM. It was AM Commerce, right? And then I graduated from Saul Ross. Yeah. You want to talk about them? Yeah. You saw both different chapters. Yeah, it's a big difference there. So no. Well, this leads me. Time out. Something we gotta bring up that I don't necessarily love to talk about, but the sheep. Yeah, I plan on it.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

I plan on. Sorry. Okay, this leads me to one of my favorite segments of the podcast. Look, I wear boots made for cowboys. There are a lot of boots that aren't made for cowboys. Michael likes to wear them. Yeah. Anyway. The finolio boots. Finolio boot company. That's the ones I like to wear. They're made for cowboys. And they sponsor this segment called Give It the Boot. Yeah, my wife's got a pair. The Finolio boot. You can get a discount on your next pair. Great. Use discount code Tucker Brown. All caps no space. We did not get the discount. Or walk in and tell them Tucker Brown sent you. You get the discount.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Never, she's never owned a pair of like nice boots in her life. So you went and got her some? She picked out elephant.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

The first pair. You know what? I like these. Yeah, that's that's exactly I said them ostrich are awful nice. Now that I think about it. I want an elephant. And so we did that. No, Caden's a good guy, too. Yeah, I like Caden's a good guy. Great, great boots, great people.

SPEAKER_03 49:31

So if there was something, I'm gonna leave it very open. Okay. And you can go as niche in the feed yard or as wide as the ag industry. Okay. What is something you would give the finolio boot?

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Kick it out. In the feed yard mechanicking. Anytime I have to mechanic, it's because I'm not very good at it. Like I'm just not. And so if something broke down and I'm having to work on it, it's a bad day. Um, so that's what I would give the boot. If I could like hire a full-time mechanic uh just to go behind me and fix everything I break, that'd be really cool. But like on a more broad spectrum, uh in the state of Texas, I would kick out feral hogs, illegal immigrants, and awdad. Barbary sheet, those three things.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

Probably in that order. I feel I put awdad and what are those things in South Texas that are big deer?

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Axis? Axis deer?

SPEAKER_03 50:27

No.

SPEAKER_00 50:27

Fallow deer? Uh Neal guy? Neil deer? Neil guy or not deer. Those are antelope. That's okay. Are they wild? Isn't he the wildlife guy at the Ari Brown ranch?

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Yeah, I quit that. I mean, wait, yeah. That's how in the social media straight the bottom of the barrel.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

Wait, are those wild?

SPEAKER_00 50:47

Yeah, in places.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

No dead?

SPEAKER_00 50:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

Down south.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Good eating. Real good eating. Call him the blue devil.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

Dude, if you like to not like your meat, eat all dad. Oh, no, don't eat at all ad. I don't know. You're from Alabama. I eat everything. That's what I said. If you don't like to like, if you like to not like it.

SPEAKER_02 51:05

That's what's you know, Cajun season is for.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Well, I figure like when you make your possum stew, you could probably throw some audad in there to add some girds to it, but.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

I've had possum.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

Really? Are you really from Alabama?

SPEAKER_03 51:19

Yeah, he's from LA. Yeah. Possums. Oh, you have had a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

I thought you said you hadn't had possum. No, I've had I've had quite a bit of oh, so you're you're not from Alabama.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

He ain't eating possum. Possum and fried green. Roadkill. Possum and fried green tomatoes. That's the only vegetable I like.

SPEAKER_02 51:38

Fried green tomatoes? Fried green tomatoes. Fried.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Huh?

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Because they're fried. Fried green tomatoes? Yeah. Just green tomatoes in general.

SPEAKER_00 51:46

Well, I kind of like them all, but we had some fried green tomatoes in Alabama. Just out the Greenbow, Alabama.

SPEAKER_02 51:52

Yeah, green bow.

SPEAKER_00 51:54

Yeah. We had some like fried green tomatoes with like some jelly on them. Like dessert. Boy, I tell you what.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

You ever had a frying fried green tomato sandwich?

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Michael's fried tomato, bacon, mayo. Oh, like a BLT, but fried green tomato. No lettuce in there. No lettuce. Okay. I need no lettuce. Fried veggie, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

Bacon and mayo.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

So maybe some like uh pepper jack cheese in that. That'd be good. You could you could throw that in there? You bet. So you'd get the you'd get the hogs out. Hogs, illegal immigrants, and audad. Probably man, I really hate audad.

SPEAKER_03 52:29

Like what makes you hate them so much?

SPEAKER_00 52:31

So when I was at Saul Ross, they canceled the program. I moved all the way down there to study. And so uh I ended up getting my degree in natural resource management, sustainable ranch management. And I'd already had all my animal science classes taken. So the last two years of school, I studied wildlife and ag business, like wholeheartedly. And I got to go see desert bighorn sheep in the state of Texas on their native land. And that was awesome. And then I found out that these dang Egyptian sheep will run bighorn off water. Like they're they're their biggest competitor for resources, and they run them off water, and we're trying to grow the population of Desert Bighorn, and we've got these immigrant sheep that are in the way competing for the same resources. And the problem with Audad is, and people buy them, put them on high fences, and they normally last like three years, people get rid of them. Because when they when when audad find land that they like, they just camp out on it until there's just as much grass on this table as is on that land. You know, our native species, they travel, they've got a big area, and they they graze like cattle, you know. Them audad boy, they find a spot and they just go to eating it until it's absolutely nothing. Oh be dang. And you can't eat them.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

You can?

SPEAKER_00 53:42

No, no. They're disgusting. We even tried we we even shot a lamb one time.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

And like you ever soaked it in mustard?

SPEAKER_00 53:48

No, I don't like mustard. Well, I like honey mustard.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

Uh yellow mustard.

SPEAKER_00 53:52

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 53:53

Pulls the game out of it. It does.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

Put in duck, mullet.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

I don't I don't I I love duck, but I don't put it in my mustard.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

No, you you like soak it. Then you wash it, and then you put your seasonings on and cook it the way you want to cook it.

SPEAKER_00 54:10

So if we put mustard on it and then wash the mustard off, have we really accomplished anything? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

No, you let it soak like overnight in the mustard.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

And it like pulls the game out. You know what mullet fish are? It's bait fish to everybody, but we tear those jokers up.

SPEAKER_00 54:27

I bet you eat carp too. You eat carp too. I eat any carp.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

A mullet? Uh silver bullet. Oh, is that what they call it?

SPEAKER_03 54:35

Yeah, I've seen them. Like yeah, it's a mullet.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Good.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

Good eating. I'll worry about you, Mike.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Hey. Hey. God put them on here for a reason.

SPEAKER_00 54:47

I don't I shoot you an audad sometime. Call me and let me know how it goes.

SPEAKER_02 54:53

I will.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

I'm gonna cook it up. I'm gonna find a way to cook it up and then start selling it. I'll open up a food truck in town here in Throckmorton.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Sell.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

Run OCs away. I don't think you can shut your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

I don't think you can compete against Alsace Burrito with stinking old odd ad.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Never know.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

The reason that they're such a problem down there though is they're the monetary value. You know, the ranchers can sell hunts on them. The problem is they're only selling big rams, and it takes them several years to get big, and they're not they're not doing anything for population control. Dang.

SPEAKER_03 55:25

So I thought they were fake whenever I went to I remember I went to college and you know they're right there kind of around Lubbock or post area around that bedrock bedrock, around that uh cap rock. Yeah. And um one of my buddies showing, like, man, I yeah, I went home and shot this. And I was like, You have a high fence? He's like, No, it's an all dad. Yeah. And I was like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Not all. Technically, they're called Barbary Sheep. Found them.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

They're weird.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

Those look like some Middle Eastern sheep. Well, they're from Egypt. I'm like, golly, I hope somebody didn't study wildlife like calls me and is like, you idiot. You made us look bad, but I'm pretty sure they're called Barbary Sheep, they're from Egypt.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

They look like they would be good eating though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:11

Wikipedia, that real quick. Just double check me. We may have to redo this segment.

SPEAKER_02 56:15

But no, you're right. Well, you mean look up where their origin?

SPEAKER_00 56:19

Yeah. Like Jekystan, Egypt, some no one jigstanz in Asia. Never mind. That's where Marco Polo sheep are from. I don't even know what those are. It's like the world's biggest sheep. They're called Marco Polo because he wrote about them when he was traveling across there. They all thought he was lying.

SPEAKER_02 56:35

Like they got that Rocky Mountains of North Africa.

SPEAKER_00 56:39

Egypt. That's North Africa. Sounds like. Yeah. Uh he was writing about them, and people were like, there's not a sheep in the world that's as big as a horse. And then somebody saw him, besides the locals, and was like, oh, okay, those are the sheep Marco Polo wrote about. So Marco Polo sheet. Marco Polo sheet. Yeah. I am full of useless information. Just things you don't have to know, ask me. I got him. You ready for a good joke?

SPEAKER_03 57:01

You might know this one. Okay. What do you call? Um, let's see. What do you call? Oh, oh, here we go. Why didn't the you get pregnant?

SPEAKER_02 57:14

Why didn't the you get pregnant?

SPEAKER_00 57:16

I don't know. I know where this is headed, but I don't know. I don't know the answer to this joke. Do you know, Mike?

SPEAKER_03 57:24

What are you counting? January, February, March? I was doing the alphabet. Oh, you were going to U.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

Because you couldn't see the V. Something like Montana Cow wizard or something. Somebody lonely. Well, they had like half-price vasectomies down at the local doctor's. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Hit that punchline.

SPEAKER_03 57:48

Why didn't you get pregnant? Because she was under the weather.

SPEAKER_00 57:53

Oh, but but weathers are goats.

SPEAKER_03 57:58

So what do you say?

SPEAKER_00 58:00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 58:01

What do you call a castrated lamb? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 58:02

We don't castrate them. They like them in their entirety. But a weather is a castrated goat. It may be a castrated lamb, too. Is it? I think so.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:16

Now she was under the weather.

SPEAKER_03 58:18

Now they're both probably just gonna sound like idiots. That's okay. That's why I came. But she was under the weather mic, which is a castrated, like can't get pregnant. Or she's under the weather sick. I do. Thank you. Yeah. Some of our other interns are like, don't laugh at that. And he's like, I get paid to, okay? Yeah, that's my job. I honestly think Tucker's funny. Or you give him a heart. He is. See, I did pay him really good, didn't he? Has he ever seen the videos of like the parodies you did in high school? Who knows? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

No, I just love a good dad joke.

SPEAKER_03 58:51

Yeah, he does love dad jokes.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

You want to hear one?

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Yeah, let's hear one.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

What do you call Batman that skips on church?

SPEAKER_00 59:01

Hmm. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 59:02

Christian Bale.

unknown 59:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Yeah. You get that one?

SPEAKER_00 59:08

I I get it. I know why you're single. Oh boy. Totally get why you're single.

SPEAKER_04 59:13

This guy stinks.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Why can't a duck drive a car?

SPEAKER_00 59:21

I don't know. His windshield's quacked. Oh, I like that one. I like that one. I'm a duck hunter. I like that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:27

I have a lot of good duck hunts, but Tucker's tired of hearing him. I say them all the time. Got the same like 10 jokes. That's me.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

You could be a duck farmer.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

That would be cool, huh?

SPEAKER_00 59:36

Yeah. You could do that.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

I'd say you probably can't do that.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

No, no. A guy from Alabama told me this. He said uh poor boys put corn in water, and rich boys put water in corn. You know why?

SPEAKER_02 59:50

Yeah, because you get the ducks to fly in and you kill them.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

And then you water your crop.

SPEAKER_00 59:56

Yeah. So basically, rich duck hunters buy a cornfield and then flood it. They do. Yeah. Like up in Ohio?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:05

Poor boys put corn in water. Rich boys put water in their corn. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

Didn't you we were talking about sheep? Don't you have sheep? I do. Are you a sheep farmer? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

You're a shepherd.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

You're a shepherd. Uh I don't know. I hate sheep. Let me start with that. Can we start with that?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:26

I hate sheep. Dude, I worked with sheep in Ireland whenever I went there for two months whenever I was in college. Dude, I I after that I took offense to Jesus calling us sheep.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

Yeah. They're dumb.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

It just showed how dumb we are.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

But yeah, I mean we kind of fit that bill, Michael. But like, yeah. But no, they they're very dumb animals. Here's the problem. So I keep telling my wife, we will no longer feed sheep as soon as they quit making money. And they keep making money? The dang things keep making money. As much as I hate it. Yeah, so we we we diversified. Um helps fill the yard a little bit. And uh so we what started it was when we bought that yard, it was growed up in careless weeds. And so I bought 80 head of nanny goats um just to knock down the weeds, just clean the place up. And they kitted out, and I put the kids on feed, and they made pretty good money. And the the um the market for those sheep, the people that are buying those sheep and goats, don't like things to be messed with. They don't want them cut, they don't want them, you know, pretty much as natural as you can get it. So you input's pretty low on them. Um, you know, they're eating less than like two pounds of heat a day. So the money's there. And so we had these goats, and uh somebody had some sheep for sale, and I thought, well, I'll try it. I'll try like you know, a small group of dorpers, and they made money. And then I was talking with a buddy who raises game sheep for hunting, and he said that the biggest bottleneck of his business is he has to wait until those rams are three years old to see if they're worth breeding, right? Like they they've got like different classifications, and so it's like having a ranch with 75% bulls that you don't know are worth breeding, right? And he could not produce enough lambs for his customers because he had so many rams he couldn't run enough ewes. So I said, Why don't you send them to me and let me feed them? And he said, Well, because nobody's ever done it. And I said, Well, here we go. And so I called a guy in Colorado, he feeds 65,000 head of sheep a day at a sheep feedlot. He helped me come up with a base ration. I contacted a lady who's known for antler and horn growth, and we added some stuff to the ration, and we can grow those horns bigger, faster, and cheaper than just having them out on pasture, and gives those place, uh gives those producers a place to take them to and grow them. And then I'm a hustler, and so I saw a wanted ad basically on Facebook for you know a good source for sheep to ship to California. Made the phone call, and uh it's an Arabic fella, and we send him a hundred lambs and 40 kid goats a month for them to butcher, and it's snowballed, and we send we've got an order for a thousand or for a hundred ewes a week. Let me say that again. We've got an order for a hundred ewes a week going to Georgia. Um they sort through them the top end or become replacements and the bottom end go to um halal, halal, halal, halal halal, halal processors. Um, and then that snowballed, again, I was just hustling. When when when my wife gives me the green light, I go. Like she's the brakes. And so then we uh we contacted a solar farm company, and that worked into um they're pretty big. They need 5,000 head of sheep to run on their new contracts, and so we're working with them on that. So uh we we really enjoyed doctoring sheep. Let me say that because you can't do it horseback. We have a goat roping every day at my house.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:10

You just gotta fight them.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:11

Yeah, we just rope them. Yeah. Like, and you know, I've got all them kids, so heading and healing a bunch of sheep every day is pretty fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:18

There you go.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:18

It is pretty fun. That's the only thing I like about it. It's just getting a rope and choke them down, it's pretty neat. Um, but no, we do feed cheap. Uh and make money. Yeah, as the situation that we're in right now, if the zoo called me and asked me to finish out some drafts, I'd be building 20-foot bunks, you know. Um, so yeah, we we feed cheap. I I think it's good to diversify. I really do. Uh there's a study out of Angelo State saying that you can run one U per cow, and because the U will get into places that the cow won't, that you can run one U per cow and not change your your grazing rate.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:51

One U per cow?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

Like you can add one cow. Yeah, you can add one U. So if you're running a hundred head of cows on a plastic. I thought you're saying if you got rid of your cows, you can run around. No, no, no, no. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

No, you can run a hundred if you're running a hundred head of cows, it doesn't cost you anything to add a hundred U's. So just the fencing and the dogs. Just the fencing. Yeah, the fences and good set of dogs is important. Like a really good set of dogs. When we go to the solar farms, like I've got somebody that's got dogs, and it's really helpful.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:17

So I thought whenever I came back to the ranch, I thought that's where you know when we come back, we have to have a business plan. Right. Grows the ranch, and whenever I left TCU, sheep were making money. A lot of money. And uh I was like, Well, I'll just I'll just have sheep.

unknown 1:05:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

And then my dad was like, sheep, huh? Yeah, yeah. He's like, Where are we gonna put those sheep? Because they're not gonna go where our bull customers come up. I was like, he don't he don't want them to be seen. And he's like, maybe on the north side. He's like, I'm not saying you can't do this. There's just places you can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:52

Oh, dad, my dad hates it. Like, like I advertise for people to send us sheep, and he's like. Stop doing that. I'm like, dad, it's fillin' pins. He's just don't do that no more. Fillin' pins. Don't do that no more. So fillin' pins. Yeah. No, I I think it's important for anybody to versify. I mean, how many revenue streams do you have? You personally. Me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:15

Six, seven.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:17

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:21

I mean, that's probably close. Yeah. I mean, if you just do social media alone, there's if you can count social media as one and uh there would be it's probably five.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:35

Yeah. Yeah. No, and I mean we sell beef, we we feed cattle, I buy cattle for people, I consult, and we do sheep. And and the sheep is three different ways, you know. Yeah. So yeah, you're diversified on your sheep. Yeah, I'm learning a lot. Something I never thought I'd want like I don't want to be an expert in it, but uh I'm learning a whole lot. And it pays the bills, so we're gonna keep doing it until it stops.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:00

One of my friends, he was uh he was in the army and they were trying to figure out you know what job he was gonna specialize in. And then they were like, well, you know, depending on what job you're good at, is dependent on where we'll send you. And you can say you want to be, you know, in Abilene, Texas, but if your job isn't needed there, you're not going.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:22

And so he was like, Where do I want to go? And he just kind of reversed what do you call that? Uh reverse engineered it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:31

And he was like, Well, I want to go to Hawaii. And so he looked up what jobs they needed in Hawaii. Right. And radio technology was going out, so they didn't have anybody plan like studying it. He was the only one that studied it, so he got to pick where he was gonna go. Oh, heck yeah. Because they were going out with the radio and nobody wanted to be in it going out, and so he got to live in Hawaii for four years and bang.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:56

Well, I like I like how he, you know, this just goes back to being inventive. This is where I want to be. Whatever it is, that's whatever you gotta do to get there, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

Right. And I feel like that's what some like the new businesses kind of have to do as reverse engineer. What do you want to do? Well, I want to feed cattle. It's like, okay, well, how do you do that? Well, we're gonna feed some sheep along the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:16

We're gonna do this and do that. Oh, that's exact that's exactly right. I mean, my goal was to be trading, you know, three truckloads a year, was my goal of cattle, right? Well, Capital Farm Credit had a different goal for me. Let's we're we'll we'll work up to that. So my operating loan uh was not was not gonna be good for cattle because the number of head I bought increased the risk, if that makes sense, right? So um you buy 110 and you lose two, that's okay. You buy 20 and you lose two, that's not okay. A little different. And so we started buying the sheep and it works good. And in fact, we just got our operating loan increased because it is doing so good. So I guess that means more sheep. More sheep. More sheep.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:58

Now you gotta ride the wave sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

Yeah, yeah. And we like my daughter, she was doing mutton busting. Boy, we had plenty of practice. Yeah, you didn't. I bet you did practice. We had some with handles on them too. Nice. I think they should do some like like a series of mutton busting, and then put some of them game sheep at the end, like the ones that jump. Yeah, that'd be ranked. That'd be ranked.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:20

What advice do you have for some young cattlemen that are in that are in college right now, wanting to get into ranching? Wanting to get into ag wanting into ag.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:31

Okay. Um I've got two pieces of advice. To get into ag the feedlot industry is a pretty good place to do it. Great way. You're gonna learn a whole lot in a hurry. Great way to do it. I mean, um, and in fact, I'll just put this out here. We're hiring right now. Like, I need a hand. Come on. I really do. So if you're young and aggressive and um want to show up, I I will teach you everything I know. I have no problem sharing my knowledge. My dad's a retired ag teacher, he loves teaching. Um, but go somewhere where you can learn, and when you're there, you can learn what not to do, and that's okay. There's a lot. There's so many places I day worked when I was dayworking all the time. Boy, I ain't gonna build a set of pens like this. Boy, I ain't gonna run a kettle like this. Boy, I'm not gonna talk to my wife like that. You know, uh I saw it all. Um, so just just go in with an open mind, know your value too, and increase your value. If you can learn, like, like in my operation, if you've got mechanical skills, you're gonna take precedence. You know, I would rather you be good at mechanicing than riding a horse. Uh, I can teach you how to ride a horse, not really good, but you won't fall off.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:44

Um, which I fall off, but maybe not. Uh, but bring some value to the table and know your value. We we had a young lady reach out to us that wanted to intern with us and was pretty interested, had some family in the area, uh, really wanted to kind of learn the like buying trading to scale your business, and that's something I'm pretty good at. And so we talked about it, we were pretty interested, and I asked her, you know, what are you looking for out of an internship? So she told me, and then she said she wanted$20 an hour. And I can't pay the least experienced person the most money.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:14

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:15

So kind of know that when you go somewhere, like if you get the internship at the Ari Brown Ranch, the knowledge that you're getting, the people that you're around is worth so much. It's it's the majority of the pay, is what I would say. I mean, just a few, like being a friend of yours from high school, like the stuff I learned from your dad, just you know, riding in the pickup with him every once in a while, just the value and just being an intern there. Oh my gosh, that that's a great opportunity. So get out there and and and find you a find you a place to just pick up the dang phone. It's not as hard, like people aren't gonna come to you and offer you a job. Pick up the phone, go to calling people, like except I called Mike. He did.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:00

He did.

unknown 1:12:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:03

Like, but only because you introduced yourself at Catalcon.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:06

Yeah. Introduced myself and then introduced myself again as Matt at the Red Bull event last year. He didn't introduce himself as Matt. I called him.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:15

I saw him talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:16

I was like, I was like, I was about to say, how much Red Bull did you drink? Did have the wrong name.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:22

Well, I just I asked him soon after I I called him Matt. I said, I said, you had a few of those? He goes, 12.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:30

He's like, you know what? I'm gonna hire this guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:34

Somebody that'll engulf 12 Red Bulls to keep functioning. That's that's pretty good. Do whatever it takes. Yeah. But no, just just get on the phone. If you want it, you can have it. And you can do that with anything in this world. If you want it, you can have it. Uh I wanted a smoking hot wife. I went and got her. I wanted a feedlot. We went and got it. You must have been in the dog house here recently. No, I just I mean that's good looking as I'm infatuated by my wife. People like love their wives. I'm telling you right now. If I walk through anywhere, I'm gonna smack her on the boat. I smack her on the butt when we're working the shoot.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:09

I send uh Instagram things that say like uh it's a scientifically it's a sign of a good relationship. Dude, I'm gonna live to 150. There's nothing that could kill me. I remember granddad doing that all the time. I'm telling you. He's like, you know what that is, Tup? That's a love spanking. That's a love spanking.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:28

Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:29

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:30

You you want something in this world, go get it. Don't make excuses. Don't everybody deals with something, right? Okay. We'll we'll talk about this, and I didn't plan on this, but your granddad dealt with depression.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:41

I deal with depression. I deal with it to the point that I've been in a mental hospital twice now. Okay. It's okay to talk about these things, guys. There's a lot of people in this world that's maybe one of them cowboy rules that I don't agree with, right? We gotta be tough all the time. That's okay. If you want something in this world, go get it. Go on. That's it. Just go get it. Don't make excuses. I mean, I had a son at 16 years old. He was born the month before I started my junior year of high school. Okay? I had people saying you're gonna be a dumb cowboy, you're not gonna get into college, you're gonna do this, you, you know, you've ruined your life, everything else. Not only did I graduate high school, but I got a four-year degree. I graduated with zero student debt. Okay, don't tell me something's not achievable. Okay, that's just an excuse. If it's not achievable for you, that's on you. But if you want something in this world, go get it. If you want to be in agriculture, find your way in, get on the phone, get on social media, and and ranch world ads, ranch world ads, there's ad every day for a job. Probably 50 of them a day.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:45

Yeah, we know plenty of people who've talked about it on the pod. Like that's how the ranch world got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:48

That's how Ben Cretchman got his job. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:50

That's how Ben got it. That's how Hayden, one of our interns, got one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:54

That's how uh you're gonna have to edit a lot of this out because we went off the rails there. But Cord Weehawk. That's how Cord Weehawk got his start. The second piece of advice I'd have for anybody in agriculture, Mike, write this down. This is gonna make you more successful. Coal ruthlessly. Coal. K-U-L-O, right? No, C-U-L-O. Throshort, maybe coal ruthlessly. Okay. Cattle, sheep, friends, people. I'm gonna say that a lot of people won't. People. There's people in your world that are dragging you down. They don't have to be there. That's right. I wrote a uh article when I was Mike, we gotta talk. Yeah.

unknown 1:15:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:35

That's enough of the Alabama. Sorry, go ahead. Uh no, I wrote an article in college and it was basically a copy of Walmart's employment contract. So when you go to work from Walmart, they give you a contract, and then basically what you can expect from Walmart, you know, pay, insurance, respect, all those things, and what they expect from their employees. So I wrote it for cattle. If you're a cow, I expect you to have a calf every 11 months and wean that calf. If you're a bull, you have the best job in agriculture. Your job is to breed and eat, okay? If that was my job, I would be employee of the month every single month. And I mean, hustling. Just do your job, okay? Don't put your tool somewhere it doesn't belong to where it don't work no more. Don't break fences, don't run over nobody, don't go to the neighbor's house. Okay. If you bluff my my mother-in-law off the fence once or twice, you'll get a pass, but don't run over. Um yearlings, right? They need to get there and they need to gain. If I see something's falling off and not gonna fit my load anymore, he goes to Sellborne. Okay. Those cattle can expect for me to be treated with respect. They're going to be given every tool they need to do their job. But there are so many people that lose their operation or lose money in the cattle business because they let their emotions get in. I got a phone call the other day from a guy that has a cow that hadn't calved in two years. Is there anything I can give her to help her calf? Nope. Let's think of it this way. If you had a hundred employees, okay, 98 of them showed up every day and did their job, and two of them didn't do their job for an entire year, what would you do with those two employees?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

Are they Alabama fans or Auburn fans?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:11

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:12

I'm just playing. Get rid of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:14

Get rid of them, right? There is not a bovine on this earth that means more to me than my wife and kids. She has never done anything to make me emotionally attached to her enough to not fire her when she doesn't do her job. I f I sold my first showhever.

unknown 1:17:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:29

She had a calf. Calf got killed by couch, never read back. Went to the cell bar.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:33

Ouch.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:34

Okay. That's Molly. That's a showheifer, right? No, she's gone. Poor Molly. Poor Molly. I bet she I don't know if she tastes good or not. I don't care. And and you know, I'm a black and white thinker. You do your job, you get a place to stay. You don't do your job, you go. So call ruthlessly. And like that. Everything will be better.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:54

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:54

No second chances.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:55

If somebody's wanting to work for you, where can they find you or reach out or your Facebook?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:01

I just give my phone number. Yeah. My number's 325-650-6657. You can get us on Facebook. It's Jimmy Dill Abner. Abner Family Feeders and Mulberry Creek Cattle Company. My wife will check that. I don't. But yeah, shoot me a message. Give me a phone call. If I don't answer, text me. I'm busy. But I'll get back to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:24

That's good. Yeah. There you go, poop. There you go, folks. Somebody's wanting in, and here's your opportunity. You bet. Holler at him. Alright, we'd like to end it with uh favorite Bible verse.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:35

Do I get to ask all y'all a tough question? We get a reverse. I want to do that if we're gonna have time.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:39

Yeah, we got time. I got two questions. We got time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Jimmy Dale Abner Podcast. Jimmy, this is where you get to ask a question to Michael or I. And I.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:50

Or I. Heck yeah. No, I got one for both of you. Howdy, folks, and welcome to the Jimmy Dale Abner Podcast right here in Throckmorton, Texas. I've got Tucker Brown and Matt with me.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:01

Oh, Matt Damon.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:03

Matt Damon. Yeah. Alright, Mike, I got a question for you. What was the uh we'll go back to the bedrock tough question, one of my favorite segments of the show. What was the toughest part about leaving Alabama and coming to Throttmorton, Texas? Or what what's what's the toughest part about just leaving home?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:19

Um leaving my granddad.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

Come on.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:25

But I don't know. I don't know. I I trust God. This is where God wants me to be in life. Amen. So I prayed about it. It weighed on my heart. Now I'm here.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:37

Yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:38

And this feels like home now. That's awesome. So that's great.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:41

You still get to go home and see granddad?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:43

Yeah, if I want, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:44

Yeah, heck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:45

I get FaceTime all the time. This boss lets you go back.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:47

Your boss is pretty good about letting you go back to granddad.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:49

Yeah, my boss is pretty cool. Yeah, granddaddy.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:52

Granddads are cool. Um, but I love visiting with the older generation. Just I don't even care if I learn anything, but just what they say is is really cool. I got a few numbers I need to send you. Yeah, you bet. Yeah, if you if you want to adopt a grandson, I gave him my number earlier. Go ahead and give me a call. I'll drink coffee and talk cattle all day long.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:08

Grace was talking about getting adopted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:12

I need I need a oh, never mind. We're not going there. Uh I already know where you're going. That's not that's not. Uh all right, I do have a Tucker or uh a question for Tucker Brown. And this is gonna be a bedrock tough question. I know your dad could answer this without like any bobble. Uh-oh. But uh 17 breeds that are brown ranch has raised and sold at the ranch. Can you name them? Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:42

Let's see. Keep counting. Yeah, keep counting there. We got uh Herford Angus, red Angus, black red Angus, we have a cementol, we have a semangus, we have Hotlander, we have Cinepal, we have Brahmin. We have um Sinegus, we have what would you call a Brahmin? Cinnabole cross. Bra pole.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:17

Sinabral? Cinnabral. Yeah. Sinbra, maybe. No, no, that's a Cemedology. That too.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:25

Oh, both those. Both those. That's okay. We're at twelve. Um, okay. Wagyu? What are we at? 14? You sold Wagyu? Commercials. Commercials, okay. Um I'm gonna say. What's that? What's what's uh what are you doing over there? I can hear that.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:53

Oh, you can?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:55

Sure. Whenever you grab it.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:56

Oh, it's the semi charge and I grab it and close it?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:59

No, don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:02

That's right. 14? What uh the Aka Usi Angus cross. I don't even know what to call that.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:11

Okay. Okay. I've made that I think that's as far as I can go. That's a 15? Never never Charlet.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:18

Charlet's never not even back in the day. No, I guess I guess a Herford Angus would a Herford Angus cross. Like a black baldy would be another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:27

Yeah. Next time your dad's in here I ask him that question, I want to know. That's a good one. He said 17, so I got limousine maybe back in the 80s. No lemmies. Not that I know of. Yeah, I don't blame you. I wouldn't, I don't like limousine kettle. I don't like Japanese kettle either. But always tell uh always heckle people.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:48

You know that Southeast guys are really good at crossbreeding, mostly because they have to.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:52

And they they're always like, dude, you need some brahmin up here. I was like, if I wanted to lose money, I would absolutely have some brahmin.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:00

You bet.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:01

Which doesn't go over so well because they really love brahmen. Yeah. But we just don't need them. Yeah. And they discount them up here. So really, if I wanted to lose money, I would I would we've taken some eared cattle to the yard. They were at the right price. There are some that don't agree with me. There's some Brahmin cross cattle here in the county.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:18

Yeah, I mean, your environment tells you what kind of cattle to run in your market. True. So there's not a broad blanket there, you know. Uh they got 1,400 pound cows up in Nebraska, up to 1600 pound cows. I don't want to I want a 900-pound cow. I want a 900 pound cow weaning a 700-pound calf. People say it can't be done. I think it can. I think uh some R.A. Brown genetics would help. And I think getting a smaller cow that milks good.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:46

Tech did a uh Texas Tech did a study, and they it was pretty cool how um they did the three different cow sizes and how many cows you could have on that same acreage, and uh it was really cool. Dr. Rathman did it. And at the end, for like Western-ish Texas, like Lubbock, Throckmorton, all that around there, that the cows that made that made sense, where they're like using 1,100 pound cows and then using every um implant along the way could get you to your final weight that made the most money because you could have the most cows and more pounds of beef per acre. Yeah. And uh I that I don't know what breed that was, but that was one of their studies, and I was like, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:30

Yeah, you bet. No, I I think there's some breeds that are underappreciated, like the Bronvey breed. Boy, I like Bron V cattle. I think Bron V's demises are gonna turn into the short horn because they like them in the showing. They do like them in the showing. And we're gonna push them away from being the good kettle they are. But no, I I think we've got the genetics, we've got the management, we've got the tools to do it. Let's let's make the perfect cow. I think that's you know something your dad's been working on. Abby Grace is pretty close. She is pretty close. Pretty close. And then you sell a female for you sell a cow for a hundred thousand.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:01

And we sold her two years ago to a cooperator, and then the cooperator had two bulls out of her, sold them for ninety-four thousand and sixty-four thousand. And then sold a cow again. And then sold the cow.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:13

Did y'all sell some embryos out of her at the sale too? Yeah. What'd they bring?

SPEAKER_03 1:25:16

I don't remember. Because I was still going a hundred thousand. Yeah. No, that was my first time to get off the my dad does the females on the block, and that was my first time off the block, so I went to I watched her sell and then I went and got somebody.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:29

Yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:31

When them embryos selling, like like some of them were selling for like$600? Is that per embryo? And uh probably. That's a pretty good deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:40

Pretty good deal. A lot of times there's four of them, but they only charge you for three. So basically they're three.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:48

So is that$200 embryo or is that eighteen hundred dollars for three of them? Yeah. Yes. Golly, these questions I'm asking. The Jimmy Dale podcasts are pretty hard today. I'm sorry. Had amateurs making noise on their microphone and amateurs, man. I don't know. 14 out of 17 is a passing grade, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:08

So I'd say so.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:09

Yeah, close enough.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:10

That's about what I did. That's about what I do in life. Yeah.

unknown 1:26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:14

14 out of 7. Yeah, I think you agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:17

No, me too. Well, there was a study put on by the Red Ang Association that you're going to lose tw lose money on 21% of the cattle that you buy. Like this is feeder cattle. Yeah. Right? Well, that that like scares people, but that means 89% of the time I'm making money. I just got to make sure that that 89 covers that 21%. If you can't bet on yourself in this world, what can you bet on? You know, have faith in Jesus and do what you know what he made you to do and do it the best. So that was the Jimmy Dill podcast. Kind of fun. That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one. Might might need to do a number two. Listen to it. Now he's going to start his own. No, no. I don't have the time for that. My wife would have to set it all up. Hey.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:56

I wouldn't get Jimmy Dill. I heard a guy say, if you want it, go get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:59

An excuse is an excuse, man. That's right. That's what I've heard. Maybe I'll bring back Christ's coffee and cattle. I might bring that back.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:05

It's been a couple years.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:06

It's been yeah. Yeah, that was that was a lot of fun. When was that? The three C's. 18? No, no, no. Way before that. I like stopped in 17 or 18. Really? Yeah. And I did it for two and a half years. I started in 15. Is that grad still a thing? I don't know. I don't know. I haven't seen it. I haven't either. Uh it was a pretty cool group, but no, I haven't seen them. So I know it's kind of ran by one guy, and that's probably a lot for one fella. Yeah. So, and that that's what happened with with my talk show. Um, for those that don't know, I had a talk show called Christ, Coffee, and Cattle. We talked about those three things. Um, normally we talked about God and cattle while I drank coffee, but uh yeah, it was on Snapchat. That's how like far back it was. It's before Instagram, TikTok. And I didn't know how to monetize it. There wasn't really influencers, like Dale was Dale was starting his thing. Starting his thing. Um and I didn't A lot more like the educational stuff instead of the entertainment stuff, but I got to go to Brazil and that really picked it up. And so now that we're at the feedlot, um, we'll probably do some more of that. I just won't show the sheep. But you could show them too. Yeah. No, it's something something I definitely need to work at. So you've inspired me. Mike has. There you go, Mike. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:21

I've inspired someone. What did I do?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

You remember when we were talking about them places where I learned what not to do? Mike has inspired me.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:30

I hey, all I heard is I inspired you. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:34

You're welcome. Yeah. Appreciate it. Of course. Anytime.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:38

Life advice and um life advice andor favorite Bible verse or story. What you got?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:45

Yeah. Um pick you a good partner that has the same beliefs that you do. Oh yeah. Okay. That's that's super important, Mike.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:53

Equally yoked.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:54

Yeah. And it's like you got slim pickings, so.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:58

Yeah, I do got slim pickings. Make it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:01

Maybe make it a little harder. But no, uh, I got a favorite chapter in the Bible. It's Deuteronomy 30. I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but I like Deuteronomy 30.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:10

Don't hear many from Deuteronomy or numbers or boy, I like Deuteronomy.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:13

I don't know, I'm a weirdo. Deuteronomy 8. But Deuteronomy 30 basically lays out the choice of life and death, and God pleads with us to choose life and what will come from that. But uh, because of the letter that your dad wrote, uh, this is something that helped me when I was dealing with depression. It's Isaiah 41, 10. It says, Do not fear, for I am with you. I will strengthen you and help you. And that's not a promise, or that that's not a suggestion, that's a promise. Yeah. And so no matter what we're going through, Jesus is right there. And uh take faith in that. Whatever you're going through in today, or whatever you're going through today, just know that Jesus is there for you and He loves you and He cares for you. And uh if you ever need to talk, give me a call. Amen. We can discuss it. I would I would much rather get a phone call at two o'clock telling me that you're depressed than get a phone call from a loved one. Um, and this has happened in my life, that that you're no longer with us, you know? Yep. So give us real. Yeah, talk about it. Is real.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:10

I got it.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:11

Israel. Israel. Is that what you said?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

It is real.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:15

Oh, okay. It's that Alabama died gum. Give me a second, he'll get it out of there.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:19

Okay, so hey, get the mic. Dang, I'm an amateur. I'm an amateur. But remember the Lord your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth. Then Psalms 37, 4, delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart. God puts the desires in your heart, but you gotta put the work in. That's right. You gotta get out of the ability. What did it say?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:47

Gives you the ability. Yeah to what?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:50

The ability to, I mean, I'm not butchering this whole or something.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:58

It is the ability to produce wealth. Produce wealth.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:01

Yeah, yeah. I like that. I always say you can pray for a hole, but God doesn't want you to lean against the shovel. Get to digging, boy. You know, it's not gonna do the work for you. That's right. That's right. He'll support you.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:12

He doesn't glorify laziness.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:14

Oh, amen. He's preaching now. Maybe that's what he needs to be. Easy, Mike. Easy. Get him fired up now. Yeah. Go to preaching. Get him fired up. Be a priest, you wouldn't even have to worry about finding a woman.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:24

Yeah, true. True.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:26

We uh we've been still studying the life of David in um in church, and Carly's been studying the Bible of Matthew, so I've kind of been getting both. Um but one of the things I love about I'd found out that there's more written about David in the Bible than any other character in the Bible. And like he's in he's in Psalms, he's in Acts, he's in Samuel, like everywhere. Um but we were they were talking about creating a clean heart, and that's what David was praying for after this is a dang woman in a bath or something. Yeah. Bathsheba, what a lady. They uh he but it says in Psalms 51, 10, create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew my spirit within me. Um but even the guy who has written the most most in the Bible about making mistakes and then asking for the pure heart.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:20

Yeah. Still a sinner.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:22

Yeah. We all are. But he is, but then he is he was like, Okay, I know I messed up, and you're the only one that can help me clean that up. Like create clean my heart and get those desires.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:32

A king had everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:35

A king that had everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:36

Run by a woman. Take note on that too, bud. Baden badin's a badin'. Good's a good and but a badin' a badin'.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:42

Then he he went off sin off her husband to die.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:46

Yeah, try to cover up his mistakes. And and you know it's it's crazy, it's it's hard to confess our sins, but he already knows about them. Yeah, and so when when when we pursue like an actual relationship, a friendship with them, yeah, it gets a lot easier to confess your sins, which makes it a little bit easier not to sin as much.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:04

Yeah, you gotta your your love for Christ will outweigh the desires to feed your flesh. Yeah. And that's how you kill it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:12

You desire a relationship with Jesus, your desires are gonna be more godly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:17

You know, I don't desire desires on your heart are not gonna be of the flesh, they're gonna be spiritual.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:21

I want to please him, I want to do his work. That's right. And there's there's also a lot of uh, I mean, I remember wondering, there's a lot of kids in college that I was with, same age. I say kids, we were all we were kids in college. And they said, uh, they're like, everybody's like, what are you gonna do? And they're like, man, I don't know. I don't know what I want to do. And uh it's in the Bible it tells us it was like, dude, ask the Lord and he'll he'll show you the desires of your heart. And it's like and that's been a cool part about the whole social media deal, yeah, is that I've just been able to enjoy the ride.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:58

Yeah. And just real quick, uh we're done, but um and just to follow that, like following God's plan for you, just giving him the reins, being able to turn that over. You know, it's not easy. When I graduated college, I had a job offer that I really wanted. Um and the same day that they offered me a job, I found out I was a match to give my dad a kidney, and he was gonna die of kidney failure if not. So forgot about that. Yeah, I had to turn down the job to be able to do that. I was pretty upset. I'd you know, I'd worked hard, I deserved that job, I'd earned that job and wasn't able to do it, so I was frustrated. Then I got offered a state job and COVID hit, and for a year that was postponed. They called me like 13 months later, said you still want the job. I was like, I've I've moved on, you know, and I was I was curious, like I'd I'd got my degree, I'd worked really hard, I'd I'd gotten offered those two jobs that really were attractive to me. Now I'm at the feedlot with my good-looking wife every day. You know, I wake up and she's got breakfast wearing an apron. I wish she never mind. You know, I'm getting carried away. Easy, easy. She's distracted.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:05

Where's the moot? Where's the mute button?

SPEAKER_00 1:35:07

Yeah, no, uh, but I'm at the feedlot with my family, doing what I love every single day. And it's not where I thought I was gonna go. That's not what I wasn't working towards, but that's where God wanted me to be, and that's where he put me. So being able to just to give him control and say, I trust in you, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:22

Yep. I 100% agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:24

Amen.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:24

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:25

Thanks for being on Jimmy Dale. Uh thanks, guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:27

I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:28

Yeah, that was awesome. That was a good pod.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:30

Yeah, episode 68. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:34

Doesn't hit the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:36

It doesn't hit the same, does it? It just doesn't do it. You have a hard time finding a woman, like, yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:41

I'll I'll I'll put them through something.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:44

Hey, thanks for listening to the Register Ransion Podcast. Check out the merch online, registeredmansion.com. We'll get it shipped right to you. Check out uh 55. But until then next time, ladies and gentlemen, we'd love you guys to stay classic and random.