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Jewels on Mars
Who would have guessed that it rains DIAMONDS on Mars???!!!
We had a serious cache drop in when the one and only: actress/motivational speaker/author, Miss LaJoy Jewel "aka" Choose Joy, decided to make a voyage to the red planet and link up with The RYL Talk Podcast captains: Blastoff & The Prez. This was one to remember as they tap into many topics: her career goals, views of women's roles in politics, social dynamics, relationships, and the effects degeneracy has on this modern world. This is one you don't want to miss, be sure to tap in. Be sure to like, subscribe and leave comments! We greatly appreciate you letting us know what's your personal opinion.
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Yo, what's up? It's your boy Blastoff, here dropping in to give a thank you to all of the subscribers, all of the commenters and all of the likes that we get on our social medias. Keep on tapping into the Real Talk podcast on all of your streaming apps and follow us on YouTube at BlastoffNTCO and on IG at Blastoff underscore entertainment. Y'all just keep coming in. We're going to keep coming. With this heat, we got special guests lined up left and right. Y'all just go ahead and tap in and please, please, by all means, leave a comment. Let us know how we're doing so we can keep doing what we're doing. Thank you again. This is your boy Blastoff man, once again broadcasting live from a secret location on Mars. Let's do it. Hey guys, guess what Y'all back? Broadcasting live from a secret location on Mars. Everybody, it's your boy Blastoff man, with my host, my ace bull Coon. Y'all already know the deal. Do we even need an introduction at this point?
Speaker 2:Do you?
Speaker 1:need an introduction at this point dawg.
Speaker 2:No introduction needed. No, our, we even need an introduction at this point. Do you need an introduction at this point? Dawg. No introduction needed no our guest does need an introduction. We have a visitor from Venus here.
Speaker 1:Y'all see it, y'all see it, it's a special time.
Speaker 2:Very special time.
Speaker 1:We told you it was coming, told you it was coming and it's gonna keep coming. But we got the lovely, lovely Miss aka, lovely miss aka choose joy, aka miss joy jude, shining bright like a diamond.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the show, welcome, thank y'all for having me. I'm so excited welcome.
Speaker 1:We're honored to have you she does a lot, she's involved in a lot, author and and and I I don't have to do it, she can tell you what she does. She's an author and poet and an actor. You know she does it all, man, she's blessed by the best you know.
Speaker 3:Most definitely, thank you. Thank you for coming on, man.
Speaker 1:So, you know, tell us a little bit, introduce us to the people that don't know you. You know, let them know who you are and what you do, and and and um, you know what all you got going on at the current moment.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, once again, thanks for the invite. I'm so excited to be here tonight. Um, so just a little bit about myself. One of the biggest things I love to tell people it doesn't matter what I do. Um, it matters if I'm making impact. But I am as far as titles go. I am an author, an actress, full-time motivational speaker and a life and energy healing coach. I have a brand by the name of Choose Joy.
Speaker 2:Come on with it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes, we definitely have to choose joy right. It's a choice daily, and I like to say that my brand just basically empowers people in a holistic way to choose joy, to choose them, choose their destiny and do the work that's needed so that they can maximize their potential while they're here.
Speaker 2:I love it, absolutely. Love it Right on, right on Stuff like that. Extremely important, especially in this year 2024. A lot of chaos, a lot of divisiveness and everything going on, so it's very important that we have people like you in this world to help give us a guiding light.
Speaker 1:Very, very important Most definitely yeah, yeah. So I mean you're not originally from Houston, texas, are you?
Speaker 3:No, I'm not a Houstonian. I'm a native of Beaumont, texas, just right up the street. Right up the street, but much smaller. Everybody knows everyone. Texas, just right up the street, but much smaller. Everybody knows everyone. I've lived all over lived in Florida, lived in LA, I've lived in New York, baltimore, dc. So you know I've been quite a few places, but I am a native of little old Beaumont Texas.
Speaker 1:So are you into traveling? Do you travel a lot? I love traveling.
Speaker 3:I love traveling. I feel like traveling heals. It opens our minds to you know things outside of our normal boxes and it just teaches you that there's a world outside of your everyday life.
Speaker 2:So it gives you access to you know other people's lives and it helps you to see the world in a different way, right on right on Very important and I think as we get deeper into the podcast we'll ask you to kind of call upon some of those experiences that you've had as you've traveled to this whole myriad of places. You know stuff like that is very invaluable and we really appreciate you coming.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1:So I mean, as you, you know, get into all of these things how? The question is, how did you become who you are today? How did you get into what led you to the path that you are on, to be an actress and author and, and when you know, poet, and, excuse me, you know?
Speaker 3:motivational speaker pain, trials, tribulations, but on the other side of that, just standing on the shoulders of people, that seemed the best at me. So a lot of mentors, you know I had a lot of great women that came alongside of me and pushed me into greatness. So, community, you know, mentorship, um, and just getting into a place where I wanted something different than what I felt like the world was trying to tell me that I was going to be. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1:The world will put limitations on you.
Speaker 3:Oh, definitely it will try to hold you back.
Speaker 1:You know, in this world we talk about this all the time you are ultimately responsible, no matter what you go through, exactly you know, because it can be. I said this in another episode. You know, troubles and problems are like weights on your back. Yeah, but you still got to keep pushing forward to get to where you got to get to, because if you don't, you letting yourself down and there may be other people that are depending on you that won't get the help that they need because you are giving up, correct.
Speaker 1:So, at the end of the day you know, I like that the whole premise of who you are and the name, no matter what pain you've been through, what you've been through, you choose joy and that's a wonderful, that's a wonderful saying and. I got to say you know, y'all know I'm acting, well behaved today, because I'd have been in Cursed Island. I got manners though you know what I'm saying. I got manners for the young lady on the show and whatnot, but y'all know I cuss up a storm and talk like really but we still going to keep it silent and real.
Speaker 1:It's raw, authentic. That's why we're here on the Real Talk Podcast. This is what it's about. But again, we are very blessed and honored to have you on here. I'm just excited man, me too. One thing I will say is that I was looking at your book Standing Still.
Speaker 3:Still.
Speaker 1:Standing and you have a co-author in the book, so you have your own segment in the book that you're responsible for. Uh, uh, you know authoring and you put your your two cents into the book and, uh, how long did it take you to get to that? Was it hard writing this book? Was it hard, Um, um, you know, coming up with the, the, the, the whole summary scenario. You know what did what parts of? Was it just parts of your life, or what is it that that you put in there?
Speaker 3:so it wasn't hard. I would say the biggest thing is that, because I've been through so much um I had, it was kind of difficult finding, okay, what do I put in this book and what? What is it time for me to release certain things? Um, that was the biggest thing, cause it's always time and purpose in every season, right? Um? So the biggest thing for me was going to God and saying like, hey, what do you want me to release for this project? Because I am a coauthor and there are other women's stories that are in there, so I wanted to make sure that I matched the vision for the visionary Um, and so that was the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 3:But the book was an awesome project. It took us a year to finish and I do believe that whoever and what you know, whatever woman gets, that book is going to be a reminder to them to just stand. You know you might fall, but get back up, you know, and continue to stand. I think that we give the enemy a lot of power when we let life like knock us down and we don't get back up. We have a thousand excuses for why we can just lay down, but you gotta stand, and it's just what it is. Stand up, you fall, get back up again that's.
Speaker 1:You co-authored that book with cynthia bailey right, yes, yeah from uh is that, is that uh best uh atlanta housewives, yes, but she's known for her modeling. She's a beautiful person, beautiful spirit Beautiful person is what I wanted to ask you. How old is she? She's a nice.
Speaker 3:Very beautiful spirit. I mean just very like down to earth. It was like talking to her auntie, you know, and just being able to hear. You know things that she's, that you think that they have glorious lifestyles but you don't know what's going on when?
Speaker 2:people get off that camera, you know, and so to hear her story and to hear where she is now.
Speaker 3:You know, kind of backing away from certain things in the industry and just finding purpose within herself as a woman. Yeah it was a great experience.
Speaker 2:Now, joy, in writing this book, did you, and maybe you can also speak a little bit for Cynthia. Did you guys find that to be kind of like a pressure taken off of you, like releasing a burden? Was expressing yourself in writing that way? Was that very like therapeutic in a way for you?
Speaker 3:Well, for me as a writer, I can definitely say anytime you put your pain on paper, I do believe that you are releasing that pain. Yeah, you know, and so I enjoy writing because it helps me to be able to release, and I feel that when you put it on paper and you let it go, it kind of helps you to continue to walk into the newness of where you're headed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, big time we really appreciate that. So we have a whole bunch of questions we were going to ask you. We're not going to like stick to them strictly, but there are two key ones that I really did want to, really did want to touch upon and uh, so let me just jump into one of them, which is just like how did you get into the entertainment business? What prompted you to go there?
Speaker 3:So, since a kid, I've always wanted to be an actress. Um, I've always been that kid that got in trouble for talking. Uh, was always the person that was getting up and speaking for my class, you know. So as a kid I loved acting. But then, of course, you know, you finish school and they tell you to go to college, get a degree, and I followed that route.
Speaker 3:But what I began to find as a young adult was that I wasn't happy in a nine to five corporate, you know, america type of setting. So I prayed about it and I was like you know what I'm going to go after my dreams? Um, I gave it to God. I asked God to lead me to the right people and the right resources. And I was scrolling through Instagram and I don't know if you guys are familiar with her. Her name is Josie Thacker. Um, she's real big in the entertainment industry. She was, um, she danced for Michael Jackson, janet Jackson, mary J Blige, she was on Martin, but she's my acting coach. I auditioned to be in her classes because she only takes a certain amount of people. We've been rocking and rolling for about the last four years and she has pushed me past what I expected. I thought I was going to take some acting classes and she made me go deep. So that's how I kind of you know got into the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2:This ties into what you were saying before about how life is really hard. It is really tough, but there are people out there who can help you. They can support you. You can be on yeah.
Speaker 2:There are shoulders that you can lean on to help you, and I think that's a very key thing for people to remember nowadays is yeah, life is hard, but don't despair. There are other people going through the struggle with you and there are people who've gone through the struggle before you who can kind of guide you, mentor you, give you a little bit of wisdom on that journey that you call life. I mean.
Speaker 1:OK, so one thing I want to ask you is how many films so far have you, how many films have you participated in? Is it countless now? Since you've been this for how long? But first of all, how long have you been acting?
Speaker 3:so I actually started. I did a lot of my work was originally like stage plays, um and on stage performances, but then when covid came, I was living in like the baltimore area and we were actually getting ready for um, a Broadway production, and it's Broadway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow.
Speaker 3:So it shut everything down, Um, and I decided that I was going going to start doing on camera and commercials. Um, and so I'm on my fourth commercial and I'm on my fifth film.
Speaker 1:So, and you say we were talking earlier and you mentioned, um, we were talking about, uh, you know these different producers and productions. Right, you were, you were running it down to me. Can you tell us again, because I was I was caught off when you were saying about Tyler Perry having he can shoot a film. And was it a week?
Speaker 3:You said Tyler Perry can shoot a film in a day and a day. Yeah, he's been known to shoot a film in a day in a day. Yeah, he's been known to shoot a film in a day and get it out. He doesn't play where some people take, you know, months or a year to shoot a film. He has it down to where he can shoot a film. He just continues to go and and I mean he's putting it, putting them out there.
Speaker 1:So and and you mentioned because I asked her I say, well, have you ever worked with him? And you were saying, like you were on the way in a production thing and COVID hit yes, so my acting agent at the time actually got me an audition.
Speaker 3:They were auditioning for the TV show Sisters Sisters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did that ever come out?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's actually out now, Okay. And so I had an audition and literally like the week before the audition, covid was declared a national tyler. Come on man, come on bro, look here, man, hey, we got another one down here. Come get you. Come, come out here in houston to get you some talent, you know, but it's gonna come back full circle. Yeah, it's gonna come back. It's coming back. You owe her, you owe give her an audition man you owe her.
Speaker 1:One man, covid, knocked us a lot of us down man, but yeah, so, so, uh, what would you say? Your genre? Because I seen it was, I seen the. Uh, I checked out, we checked out. We actually put it in a real introduction reel putting you on the show. Um, when you, you was kind of kicking somebody ass in there you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a throwback movie. Was that one of your first ones?
Speaker 3:or what was that first one? Yeah, okay, yeah. So, um, what is your genre of choice? If you had to say that's a throwback movie, was that one of your first ones? That was one of my first ones. Yeah, okay, yeah. So what is?
Speaker 1:your genre of choice. If you had to say what are your? What do you excel at more? How horror? Have you done? Any horror romance comedy, you know?
Speaker 3:So a lot of people say that I'm funny, but I like to think that I'm deep. I prefer drama, but I get more reactions from comedy for some reason. However, as a black actress, I don't like to choose a genre because in the industry, they box us into roles that they feel that we're supposed to play.
Speaker 3:So yeah, so when people ask me that I'm like I'm open to whatever until I'm able to get to a point where I can say, no, I don't want to do that, I don't want to do this. But right now, while this, but right now while I'm growing, it's like you know, if I'm in a sci-fi, I'm going to be in a sci-fi, you know, as long as it's not something that makes me compromise my morals and my values yeah, absolutely, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1:So you ain't joining the Illuminati no, no, I'm not selling myself.
Speaker 2:You ain't sacrificing nobody to get to the top, no Good good, good, good, yeah, but so how do you feel other people can learn from you and your experiences in the industry? What are some advices that you could give to people you know going in, being cautious or being optimistic, or you know, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3:So I say pray about everything, and I mean I don't want you know, I don't want to sound righteous when I say that, but whatever your method of seeking the sources, go about that and everything that you do is it keeps you grounded. Um, for me, I use discernment and everything not every opportunity is an opportunity for you. I think some people, um, they chase the fame and the money and they're not doing it for the passion. This is something that I put my tears, my pain, my past into. That's how I'm able to constantly heal and evolve. So I think that just knowing what your why is, why are you doing what you're doing? Because you might get some opportunities that you're not making $30,000, $40,000 from. So, just keeping a humble mindset, working hard, you have to put the work into it. Um, and just remembering that I carry myself every day as if I'm already the person that I look up to, which is viola davis, I carry myself like a viola davis I love her.
Speaker 1:I feel like I mean, she can play any role.
Speaker 3:That's the one from uh you better know by oh wait, hold up wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Uh, I keep something about the murder. Murder, yeah. How to get away with murder, yeah, I know about.
Speaker 3:Yes, you know, but I carry myself to that level, um, you know, because I feel like you're always representing yourself, as you know, an artist, whether you sing, dance, right actor or actress. So, just keeping that in mind, stay connected to the source, stay positive, keep working at it. Every no that you get, you're eventually going to get a yes, and in the industry, you get a lot of no's people are scared of rejection people are scared to hey.
Speaker 1:One door closed. You keep knocking, just keep on knocking and create opportunities for yourself.
Speaker 3:You know, nowadays we have social media where you can create whatever type of you know person that you want to be when it comes to being in the industry. So if you're a singer, get on social media and sing, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let your talent shine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let your talent shine. It's a big world and these social media platforms do give you the exposure that you didn't have 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:At all you had to be a singer in the juke joint and drawing in you know uh crowds or recording audio or whatever, back in the day, you know, you know how it was, but I would imagine it is kind of like it could be kind of difficult because you know you always go in, you know you might get yes, you probably get a no or whatever, but then when something like covid comes, it takes away big opportunities. Isn't that a little demoralizing, don't you feel like how you navigate stuff like that, like when something that just completely out of the blue comes in and takes away a big opportunity for you?
Speaker 3:So I think that for me, I struggled with it almost to the point where I feel like I let depression sink in for a while. Covid, was it done a number, especially for me. You know, I lost a sibling and a parent during COVID. And then major opportunities that I had for my acting, for speaking. I was supposed to travel outside of the country during the time of COVID for a big conference for speakers and all of those opportunities were taking, you know, taken from me. But I think that one of the things that I've had to realize lately is that that was a setback for a major comeback.
Speaker 3:So I know that during COVID okay, I lost these opportunities, I lost people that were close to me, but I learned so much during that season too, about rest, about mental health, about just being able to be with self. I think a lot of times we have all these goals to keep ourselves busy, right? So COVID made me look at at self. Are you ready to be a big star? Are you ready for the big opportunities that are coming? You know, is your character development things that we normally don't have time to sit around and think about? I had those times to think about, which has kind of helped me come up with a routine for like self-care Sure, you know so yeah, we touched on a lot of stuff, especially stuff that I'd written about as questions.
Speaker 2:I'm really glad, because we didn't even have to ask you those questions. You really answered them yourself. Let me ask you this, though what is your ideal career path kind of look like for you?
Speaker 3:First of all, not to have a nine to five. Ok, because I feel like without a nine to five then you can have ultimate freedom. So for me, it's been able to be one of the number one life coaches in the world. I really want to help transform communities and people's lives. I want to see people live in their true, authentic selves. Of course, you know, I want the big roles. I want to be able to write and produce as well, and once again, traveling is my number one love. So for me, I want to be able to host and produce as well, and once again, traveling is my number one um love. So for me, I want to be able to host um therapeutic travel retreats for people. So we get together, we go to you know an island, somewhere where it's beautiful water, and we block out the world and we heal I want to talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1:Tap on you because I love to travel as well. Uh, what have you traveled? Do you travel domestically, internationally, oh yeah, yeah. So what are some of your places? You've been, have you been, and what do you think about it? What's your favorite place?
Speaker 3:I think my favorite place would be Costa Rica, nice, it was so refreshing. I've never been. I'm a monkey person, so just being in the jungle with the monkeys, being able to pet them. But I mean I've been, of course, cabo, cancun. You know the different parts of mexico because we're right here um canada.
Speaker 1:I've been to jamaica, um honduras, so just different places like that, but costa rica was definitely my favorite they got black people all over honduras and all of that all over, yeah deep, rich, dark skin, yeah, all over, yeah, man you know what, uh, and I try to tell my kids you know, hey look, man, it's a big world, don't get, just don't get, don't be having kids early yeah don't be, you know, going to jail, fucking up.
Speaker 1:You know all of that, don't, bro? If you, all you gotta do is travel it's a big world you're gonna. Your destiny might be somewhere else. A lot of times when these people be taking their kids to travel and stuff like that, that's early on at a young age, because a lot of us and let's be honest, in the black community, we don't have it. The resources are us. A lot of us didn't grow up in my generation, didn't grow up with the resources of where your mom with two or three kids, four kids, single, whatever can take you and travel and show you other things To where your mind open up to where you want to desire that and go get that.
Speaker 3:Parents nowadays have the resources, but I also feel like it's about what's important, because if you can spend five, six hundred to a thousand dollars on a birthday party, you could take your child on a trip.
Speaker 1:They doing these proms like weddings.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like it's a wedding. Yeah, Like a wedding. Them them, the.
Speaker 1:Latino, the Mexican, they do quinceaneras. I was talking to one of them, them quinceaneras. They spend 15 to 20,000 on quinceaneras.
Speaker 3:For real.
Speaker 1:Bruh. Yes, sir, they don't pay for the weddings, they say, but the kids and yetters them becoming in the womanhood, they'll spend that money. You know y'all putting the comments. If I'm wrong, y'all let me know how it go. But I know for sure that we tend to go all out at a young age.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, and I don't believe in buying kids gifts. You know, my thing is give your child travel, Take your child to see things, Let them taste. You know different foods. You know different foods you know. Expand them to different cultures, different languages. Absolutely, Because those are the kids that you see, that go off and you know, they become out. Worldly, yeah, worldly, most definitely.
Speaker 2:Not locally, and the thing is I remember every trip that my parents took me on See. I don't remember half, I don't remember 90% of the gifts that they gave me.
Speaker 3:All love and respect to them.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. But the stuff that stuck with me were the experiences. The experiences, right you remember where you went, yeah seattle was my first, my first time I ever flew that. I remember find a seattle washington. Loved it there. I'll never forget that trip. I'll never forget the foods I ate. I'll never forget how the streets looked. I'll never forget that trip. I'll never forget the foods I ate. I'll never forget how the streets looked. I'll never forget the sights and places that we went.
Speaker 1:I can't remember. I can't remember what I got for my birthday that year. Seattle's one of the nicer cities.
Speaker 3:Yeah, seattle is beautiful, it rains a lot, but yeah. It's beautiful. The mountains are beautiful.
Speaker 1:Lush, beautiful land you know, just going back these kids, a lot of this stuff that they spend money on, are beautiful Niles, are beautiful Lush, beautiful land. You know, just going back these kids, you know a lot of this stuff that they spend money on, like you were mentioning. You know these proms and stuff like that where they going out renting Rolls Royces and they getting the Louis Vuitton tuxes or whatever they got nowadays?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I ain't had one so I don't know. But tell me this do you think that all of this would have been as extreme as it is now, like without social media? Because I think a lot of people got to do it for social media.
Speaker 3:It's the validation that comes with social media we have. We have such a driven world now that everybody needs to be validated on social media and I think that it just comes from a lot of voice that people have on the inside Social media.
Speaker 3:I mean, don't get me wrong, it can be a beautiful thing, right, we've seen a lot of people be blessed through social media, get opportunities through social media, but if you are somebody that does not have an identity, it can destroy you. And so I do think that a lot of people are taking things like prom to the next level because they see, okay, this person's child, you know, pulled up in a Bentley, so I gotta go even harder so that I can get just as many likes as she got with her child, and it just becomes one big competition and you know one thing that's rampant in the black community we're gonna talk about, we're gonna focus on what we know showboating yeah and living above your means but ain't coming together.
Speaker 1:We all know this. We all talk about these in our homes, right, how we can see another group of of of of cultures, races. They can get four, five in the house and everybody's going to contribute and then they'll buy another house. So then the four split the two, two in this house, two in this, this house, and they put in. They'll put in, they'll put in, but we got to have the finest and the biggest and the tastiest. Whatever we got to do, that a lot of times.
Speaker 2:It's all about the plastic.
Speaker 1:Black people are. Let's be honest, we tend to live outside of our means and make bad business choices more than any other culture. But you know, however, we got to that point we did, but I do see us coming out of that. I ain't going to lie. I feel as though today's age we're getting smarter and smarter. We are making more awareness of we do have more awareness of what other people are doing and what is holding us back. As a people Do in no small part to people like you.
Speaker 3:Joy, yeah, you know I mean, I think the thing is just like, like you said, awareness, right? Yeah, so if I learn some information, I'm responsible for coming back to my community and giving my community that information. And I mean it's like the old people say you know, you can lead a horse to the water, but that horse has to be able drink the water. You want to teach a man how to fish so that they can eat forever, right? Um, I think what happens with us as a community and we are getting better at it is that we learn the information and we don't come back, and so that's always been a big thing for me. I've always said that, no matter what I do, I will always come back for the people. That people feel like you shouldn't come back for, right right, right, right.
Speaker 1:I mean, all those are great points and it just, it just points to the fact that you know, in today's climate, um, there's no excuse, uh, for us not to to you know, not progress. As a people, we already know what the problem is. We identified the problem, we can be aware. We just have to have a sense of community. Now you got to develop a sense of community, and when I say community, I mean when you see a person that needs help, or your family member needs help or this, and that you don't rush your kids to put them out when they turn 18.
Speaker 1:Exactly, A lot of us are good at that in our community when you get 18, especially if you ain't in school or something you ain't going to college, oh you got to go, you got to get you a job and get up. I ain't got to feed you no more Military or school. Military.
Speaker 2:Let's hear your school.
Speaker 3:Let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a lot of times. I don't see other coaches do that. They don't. They don't push them out immediately as soon as they sprout their wings Right Damn, can I build muscles in them first?
Speaker 3:And a lot of times other cultures. Don't force their children to pay bills.
Speaker 2:You know until they have to go to school.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Damn school, um. But you know you're 16, 17, hopefully by the time you are an adult. You don't have stuff already in your name, you know. But we are just forced into the world a little bit harder than other cultures force their children into the world.
Speaker 2:I worry about, though, a future in which the cost of living is so high that it's just a survival mechanism for everybody you gotta push your kids out of the house because you can't afford for them to be there.
Speaker 3:How do we address stuff like that?
Speaker 2:How do we dive into stuff like that Rising cost of living, rising cost of products and services? I understand why parents do it. I agree with you guys how it should be, but I understand why a lot of people do that.
Speaker 3:We're kind of like the only people doing it, though, and I think that it goes back to the need that we as African-Americans have. So sometimes we live above our means. So you see other cultures. They're not walking around with all their money on their body, Right. They're not walking around with a $3,000 purse, but then you're in a negative in your bank account. You know they're going to have the big chunky tennis shoes on that we teach our children not to like because it doesn't have a label on it.
Speaker 3:So I think it goes back to going back to the basics of how do we live. If I know that I have a child, you know I'm going to instill in my child like, hey, it's nice to have a pair of Jordans, but if we can't afford it, you know what's in your mind is more important than what's on your body, and so I think, just getting back to those basics. But then also community, we don't have a lot of areas where we pull on one another for resources. You know, back in the day you used to be able to go to the barber and you had your neighborhood barber that everybody went to. You had your neighborhood, you know, beautician. Nowadays everything is so divided, yeah.
Speaker 1:You had your neighborhood beautician. Nowadays, everything is so divided yeah, competition, competition, yeah, competition. It's too much competition and not cooperation.
Speaker 2:I said that in an episode a couple episodes ago. Now add that to an area like Houston. Spread out Lots of black people, everybody, lots of communities, everybody in competition. Everybody in competition. I might know people in my city, but I don't know people on the south side. Right, I might know people on the north side, but I don't know people on the west side, you know. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1:The smartest of us. You won't even know they got money.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you, one of my mentors, my best friends at the time, was a millionaire and this brother walked around with holes in his socks driving a nissan versa. You know, hound kemp wasn't brave, he braid loose, but hey, he want to go to that. He went to the. I remember he told me when that it was a jaguar that came out. Oh, nine, it was. It was real sporty. I, I think it was Jaguar XJ, I don't remember, but he told me he went in there in his regular self Went in the dealership and the dealers was ignoring him. You know, they thought he didn't have it. Brother came over there. Man, how can I help you? I'm trying to get this. Jag Dropped 60 cash on the table while the other guys are like oh, you know, cause they get a crazy when you drop cash.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy, commission wow so the ones like you were mentioning we ain't gotta have they ain't walk around with the chains on the diamond necklaces on sitting on front row, cause you got people that ain't got it like the rappers. They still wanna come like the rappers, though they still want to come like the rappers, though they want to go spend that $50,000, that $20,000 on a channel. I like that you just mentioned the rappers.
Speaker 2:J Cole just did that. He went into a Tesla joint and you know J Cole very low-key.
Speaker 3:I've seen that Very low-key.
Speaker 2:He walks in just chill. J Cole, one of the most famous, and they ignored him. Ignored him Not knowing that he comes in there. He probably has more money than every single person in there Can cash you out. He can cash you out.
Speaker 1:Wow, I seen that video.
Speaker 3:I seen it I know a lot of y'all seen it. I'm about to go check it out. Oh yeah, Check that out.
Speaker 1:Judge the book, but those are the ones.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't judge a book by their cover. Really, probably, to be honest with you, the smartest ones are walking around Because, hey, when you got real money, you don't have to wear it on your outside, you don't have to have it on your. When you got real money, Jeff Bezos money, you don't have to wear it on your out exterior. When have I seen Jeff Bezos walking around with a $100,000 chain on? Never. Ever, Go inside that man's house though.
Speaker 2:I guarantee you Mark Zuckerberg Never.
Speaker 1:I guarantee you that brother got shit technology TVs, hologram TVs. We ain't even seen you, it ain't even used to the public. They got robots, probably walking around like Robocop serving you. How can I help you today? You know what I'm saying. I'm telling you hey man, when you got real money you don't have to wear it on your outside.
Speaker 1:But also you probably don't want to wear it on your outside and we stand out here to try to put in a message of we as a people gotta stop showboating. What do I need a $10,000 chain for? But I ain't got no fucking mortgage.
Speaker 3:Or life insurance, or life insurance. I ain't got no mortgage.
Speaker 1:I'm paying a car note, but I just went to cop the $10,000 chain. That don't make sense. Yeah, it don't make sense. I could have put this $10,000 and pay off this car. Yeah, you see what I'm saying but the mentality.
Speaker 3:It's a mentality follow the crowd.
Speaker 2:A lot of us, as black people, yeah, tend to follow the crowd so let's dive into why that is, though I feel like black people have been, have had the capitalist boot on their neck for so long that they want to. Now that they have resources, they want to stunt, they want to shine a little bit.
Speaker 3:They want to do that.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that it's right, but I'm saying there's a reason for why that is. When you live in poverty, you don't always want to feel poor.
Speaker 1:The thing I want to say to that is black people have always stunted, bro, we've always stunted All the way back, all the way back. We've always stunted. And you know what? Pimp C said it best, man, man, we come from gold and gold chains and this and that back in the days when we were you know. Royalty. We come from that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So it's in the DNA, but you have to be royalty.
Speaker 1:To be royalty, yeah, yeah, it's in my DNA to shine, but I got to look at the environment I'm in right now. I'm not in the environment where I need to be shining. Right now, yeah, I'm on Fifth Ave and Collins in Philadelphia and I don't got no house. I'm still in this dope. I don't need to have my biggest chains on for I can set myself up as a target, right? You see what I'm saying. Yeah, you got to come with your brain now. That's what we got to start thinking as people. But I ain't trying to look, you know what, like I said in one episode before, people that think you think you better than them, or think you trying to think you know it all. No, man, we got to go down a different path. We can't keep doing the same thing, expecting the same results. They call it a certain term. If you try to do that, a fool, insane, insanity. You see what I'm saying. So we, we, we, hey, you know we can we just keep it real, y'all.
Speaker 3:it's real talk.
Speaker 1:You know this is what we do here. This is what we're about, and, and, and, and, and, and. At a certain point in time you have to understand that you are your own worst enemy. So if you sit up with all this and this and this, but you got the main things not taken care of, it's foolish.
Speaker 1:You're a fool, it's foolish God says that a fool and his funds will soon depart. It's written down. It's already written down. It's already thousands of years worth of knowledge and a lot of us are starting to get away from that. You see what I'm saying. It's basic instruction. There's some things that you can tap into, the word or whatever your choice of knowledge is. I'm pretty sure a lot of you Confucius or Buddha or whoever they tell you to have the golden rule it's all of them connect to the golden rule, the golden rule. You know. You believe in what you believe in. I believe what I believe in. Hey, that's fine. I ain't trying to tell you what to do, what to believe. I ain't trying to stop you, because this is a free world, because in the end of the day.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't realize. We all serve the same person. You just call them different terms.
Speaker 3:You just try to serve them a different way.
Speaker 1:So you want to kill me because? I don't want to lay down and pray this direction 10 times a day. I serve them in my way. God ain't tell you to serve them in a certain way.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. Who is man to dictate the rules for God, or to dictate the rules on a way? Who is man to lead you to God? You can give me good advice and just say hey look, you find your own way to him, but you find your way to him.
Speaker 3:And the thing about it is we're all figuring it out, right? Yeah, so we judge one another about the source, about God and how we connect with God or the source, but none of us, you know, we're all trying to figure it out for ourselves. And I think that's been the biggest thing for me when it comes to religion that I had to learn, because at one point I was super heavy into the church and, you know, just felt a lot of condemnation about a lot of things from people that you know I consider to be God's chosen, or people that were leaders over my spiritual life, and so I had to start to realize like, hey, when they leave from this church, they're human, just like me, they're trying to figure it out, just like I am. And it gave me a lot of freedom, you know, not feeling so bound by their expectations or by their opinion of me and my life, you know.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yeah, right on. I think another big thing, though, that we also have to address, especially in relationship to stunting and social media, is sex and is the relationship between men and women and wanting to impress each other and how that comes in to getting certain things, buying certain things. You want the fast car because you really want the girl over there.
Speaker 1:Wrong, wrong, wrong. It's the wrong mentality to have. That's the foundation of a lot of these terms.
Speaker 2:This is also the message that we be pushing through the rap music, through the movies, through the sports A life of luxury will get you the man or woman, or men or women, of your dream.
Speaker 1:I think the luxury part is more for men. I think men are more the. The bigger your assets look is more attractive to women, because women can get a lot of assets and it's not. It's the same effect on a man. A lot of it can be, because you have deuce bigelow who's out here.
Speaker 3:It's transactional, so as a woman I look good because you have the nice things there you go.
Speaker 2:So it's a transaction.
Speaker 1:I give you what you want, you give me what I want. There you go, there you go transaction. That's why I mean, are some of the simplest creatures to please? If a woman ought to please them, right, but there's no real relationship, though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So we are living in a transactional generation, a transactional world, but we don't even know each other. We're married, we're together, we're in a relationship, we have children together, but I don't even know the most inner parts of you.
Speaker 1:Because you didn't get with him, because you want to know his brain. You got with him because of what he was pulling up in there and you got with me because I was looking good.
Speaker 3:And now we're here.
Speaker 1:She had them hips, that waist, that face, and that made me want to get a taste.
Speaker 3:That's all it's about. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, it ain't going to change. Because now, if you look on social media, I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you a story I read when I was 17 years. But today's world, you don't notice what's going on. You got to pay attention. They're pitting and people are going with it. Y'all know about the same. They pitting the black man and I'm not. Hey, I'm not racist. Hey, love who you love or whatever, but they are. I don't see this in other cultures when they vocally disrespecting each other. They pitting the black man and the black woman against each other, right nowadays. The plan I read a plan the other day and it made me question. I remember when I was 17 years old. I'm going to tell y'all something. We keeping it real here. We just talking.
Speaker 1:Hey don't disrespect anybody, I love all of y'all. I just never forget remembering. Let me tell y'all something. I cannot remember the article, but I've always been. My mom would tell you Darryl was, he was weird, he would be reading politics and this and that when he was younger and everybody would be out there watching cartoons, he'd be watching CNN or he was watching the Food Network. I love to cook, I love to eat, but I'll never forget I was at my grandmother's house one time and I looked on the. This was when the internet first came in. Y'all remember who remember when you used to get online and you try to connect to the internet and you get that do-do-do-do, that motherfucking dial-up.
Speaker 3:Dial-up, dial-up that motherfucking dial-up.
Speaker 1:But I remember you know reading this article about they were going to it wasn't going to be a beef between the black and white in the future. They didn't want that. They want a beef between the black and the brown.
Speaker 2:The black and the brown Colorism.
Speaker 1:So now look what's going on. Look at Drake, look at these people that are black. Now they got to, you know. They got to where they now saying Africans and Caribbeans aren't black, they arguing about that. They not black Americans, they not black, we black. They arguing about blackness. Wow, you don't go. Okay, black people, let's go to black people or other cultures too. We don't go to Czechoslovakia. That's, that's a Czech, that's not a white guy, that's a.
Speaker 1:Czech, you're gonna say that's a white guy. He's still white. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And a white American ain't going to go to Czechoslovakia. You're not white. They're not going to say that.
Speaker 3:They're not going to go to Switzerland.
Speaker 1:You're not white. They're not going to do that.
Speaker 3:You're white, they're going to look at them like the epitome of white.
Speaker 1:You see what I'm saying. So the game I said this before is divide and conquer. You get them divided first. Now you got segments of the same fucking race arguing about who's black. Oh, I'm not black, I'm Dominican. You looking like Wesley Snipes talking about.
Speaker 3:I'm Dominican.
Speaker 1:You black motherfucker, excuse my language, fuck that. But you looking at Wesley Snipes talking about I'm not. You black motherfucker, excuse my language, fuck that. But you looking at Wesley Snipes talking about I'm not black, I ain't no black, I ain't Cuban. You know man? Look man, yeah, we know your country, your culture. Excuse my language, I get excited, I get passionate.
Speaker 3:I know you okay, you keeping it real.
Speaker 1:But we got to stop that.
Speaker 1:Yeah because do they? Let me tell you something, and I'm not trying to insult anybody by saying these facts, but from my understanding, the Caucasian population is declining. No, first of all, all of our populations are declining. Now, if you look at the charts, we all decline. Look at the charts we're all declining. There ain't no surpluses of births. There's too much abortion. There's too much unhealthy foods. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, too much sickness around the world, now Cancer. You see what I'm saying. So there is no way that we should be in argument with each other. Nobody should be. Anyway, I'm, I'm foreign, believe in love everybody, treat everybody and and, and, and, and. One more thing I'm I.
Speaker 1:You know, in this country you got all these white supremacists coming up and whatnot. Right this is. You came to a country that was never, ever, originally white. You may have came and colonized it and had the power. Come on now. Come on, it was never, originally you, it wasn't yours. But now your power structure is threatened because now you have, you got people that's running for president, but probably gonna may, will they do or not? I don't know, I don't know, but you have things going on and they're female at that that may challenge and change the structure of the power source. But you're in a melting pot country. You want to make a pot of gumbo, but you was the okra in the gumbo. We got to take the strip but you jumped in this big old pot of gumbo with roux, with okra, with sausages and chicken and shit. You won't try to take everybody else out, but you jumped in this big old pot of something else. It's not going to work.
Speaker 3:So do you think they'll be able to handle having a woman president, like, do you feel that the world, let me say, do you feel like America, is ready for a black woman?
Speaker 1:You know, what, and I want to ask you about that. Yeah, because it's been debate and I think I'm going to tell you my honest opinion but it's been debate that she ain't black, she don't consider black until she can use you, and so I don't know if you've heard that, but if you've been in tap with social media.
Speaker 3:Oh, I have, I've heard it.
Speaker 1:They're arguing like, like you ain't black until you trying to use black people. You wasn't putting hot sauce on your greens on tv until you had to put it. You wasn't washing greens in no bathtub, like you see well, I mean.
Speaker 3:And then when people start to say stuff like that, it bothers me because as a black woman, you know you're raised to rise above what someone expects for you to be as a black woman. So when you start getting to these environments where you're dealing with, you know a lot of white people, you know with power, who doesn't change something about themselves. You know we straighten our hair. You know we add extensions to it. It's not a lot of people that are at that level is walking around with an Afro saying black power. So when we judge her, it's like well, what are you doing when you go to work? You know you're dressing the way they tell you to dress. You know you're bringing, you're making yourself fit into their bubble for your purpose and I feel like when you look at her, that's what she's done.
Speaker 2:That's the only way she could even stay in office.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you this. But I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker 3:I think the lady knows she's black in some form or fashion, but she's not pure black. So why would she own up to that Obama wasn't pure black. But why do you have?
Speaker 1:to own up. Just because you're not pure black, you don't have to say I'm black. You're not pure black, who cares?
Speaker 3:Who cares? Who cares how many of us are pure black Right?
Speaker 2:exactly, but then it comes down to the question of the one drop rule the 1%, nigga you a.
Speaker 1:Nigga 1%, nigga you a nigga so that is so deeply entrenched in our culture that if you have somebody who is a little bit black, of course they're going to say, oh yeah oh, now it is convenient for me, but I'm going to tell you something, though you got to look at, you know, again, going back to what I said. So this is where the struggle come in for me you know that there are supremacists Again going back to what I said. So this is where the struggle come in for me. You know that there are supremacists that are smart. They play chess. They may even give you an apple with a razor in it, but they'll put out there. You know, she ain't black, she wasn't pretending to be black until it's time to run for president, but the lady went to Howard. The lady was in the AK. You can't be an AK-8 unless you a sister. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3:No, that's true.
Speaker 1:The nine. They call it the nine. They got the nine. They got the deltas.
Speaker 3:Now there are white people that are trying to break those stigmas because they feel like if we can be in their sororities and fraternities.
Speaker 1:So they do have them. Let them in. We would let them in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we always let them in Because we want them to want to sit at our table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we want them to want to sit, but that's how we are, yeah, and so my only thing is is she experienced enough, you know? Does she have the experience? Does she have the experience? I know she sat under Joe for four years under policy, you know, but don't be, don't be mistaken. Oh, they won't go fight, do you think it was someone? Joe won? Let a woman beat old Don. But you have a lot of.
Speaker 3:You have a lot of black people that don't want to see her in office, especially a lot of black men. I mean, you know some black men. They they're not white, but they could be supremacists when it comes to. You know the gender roles and there are a lot of black men that feel like a woman shouldn't run.
Speaker 1:You know this country, even though you know what I'm gonna confess yeah you know, what I said.
Speaker 2:I'm just a man, yeah, and so you know I can't lie.
Speaker 1:I did say on the episode, y'all, y'all comments. Know, these motherfuckers, they'll go on social media and twist up words too. Not only can they go back and pull something you said, they can pull something you said and make you say something else. Yeah, oh, I seen it done. I seen it done. But I did say that I would like the strongest Leave me. I don't necessarily, but you got to sit back and look who do I? I don't know Because. Okay, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1:In today's world, this is how black men think, because I'm out there Especially like them, passport bros. What do they think, brother? What do they think? Well, first of all, we got Men as a general, the black men y'all tell me if I'm wrong we feel like we got enemies everywhere. We feel like the sisters can be our enemies and we definitely know the white man can be your enemy. So we stuck in the middle of well, they so hurt because child support, or they so hurt because they've been slighted by a woman that don't seem to have logic but want to use her rule with emotion, and she know you're doing right by this kid, but she still want to make it like you ain't. And she's still holding them back. So when you say black men, you're right, because they've been so slighted by the system. So when they get in power, they scared of well damn, well damn they gonna just turn it up on me we're the ones that are really running this world.
Speaker 3:Black women run this world women period. But black women, there's a power they're the most educated. There's a power that we have that, no one else.
Speaker 2:I don't care what other race of woman, just don't have and they have to come up through obstacles that other, nobody else in the world have to come up through obstacles that nobody else in the world has to come up through. They're a double minority.
Speaker 3:You have a black woman that gives birth to a black man, that grows up to say I don't think that a woman can run this country.
Speaker 1:I'm going to tell you something, though the cure for that is to keep the first of all but. But look at the black woman. A lot of times, what the early, the younger black women, like the younger black women, don't want the good guy. That's gonna a lot of them. Unless you raise right. I'll be honest, if you grew up like most of us did a single parent households, your examples are who you see coming in and out the house or streets or whatever, and then we, as black men, have to step up too. You got to treat these women with respect. But see, everything is sexual and it's just going to be harder. Let's be honest, it's not. Back in the 60s and 50s they were more together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they were more together. And I think another thing for black men, with you know her becoming president is her history when she was an attorney.
Speaker 1:Yes, Locking a bunch of them up.
Speaker 3:Laughing about locking a bunch of them up laughing about certain charges, when, when, when, when she did the same things to you, know I mean. But then we have to take accountability too, because she locked you up but you did the crime.
Speaker 1:Um well, there was one case hold up, sister. There was one case where his brother didn't do the crime and evidence was going to exonerate him from death row and she was going to have her brother executed. But because the governor of California stepped in and said, no, let's see this ever, the brother was spared his life. That's an ugly situation, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:But then, on the other hand, on the flip side, she made a mistake, though, on the flip side we have another option. That's basically saying that he's going to turn America white again.
Speaker 1:So it's like and you know what he tricked, you know what his thing is? I don't. You know what you made. So let me ask a very hard question.
Speaker 2:Let me ask a very very hard question for both of you. Would you rather as black people in this country? I know where you going, but go ahead Would you rather as black people in this?
Speaker 3:country.
Speaker 2:I know where you going, but go ahead, would you rather be screwed over by a white man, or would you rather be screwed over by a black woman?
Speaker 1:I'd rather be screwed over by a black woman, because at least I know I ain't going to be. It ain't about my color, you just don't like me, miss.
Speaker 3:Joy, I would definitely rather be screwed over, Because you because you she ain't said it yet.
Speaker 2:She ain't said it yet. Come on, Wendy.
Speaker 1:But screwed over. How the screw over would be different.
Speaker 2:The screw over would be different Policies, politics all of that shit, when it comes down to it, the screw over is going to be different.
Speaker 3:by a white man it's going to be different. But would you rather? I would rather be screwed over by a white man. Yeah, it's going to be different, but would you rather? I would rather be screwed over by a white man than a black woman, and I can honestly Explain that.
Speaker 1:Explain that. I can say that because and what does the screw over look like for a black person, you as a white man? How? Would a white man screw over a black person versus how would a black woman screw over a black person?
Speaker 3:You know what to expect from a white man. The games that they play, the screw overs. It's history repeating itself, but what?
Speaker 1:if you have a white man that looks at you like a Hitler looked at the Jews and you were just a scourge on the planet. All they do is see you fighting. All they do is see you pregnant. All they do is see you shaking your ass.
Speaker 3:That's the face of America.
Speaker 1:So we talking about American presidents, president. So what if that one president come along, say you know what we'll be better without this, this, this distraction on our children? And then they're trying to race mix, trying to promote race, race, interracial mixing and stuff. What if they came out and you're the jew? Now you as the 13 million, that one of the smaller minority groups or the more threatening minority groups in America? What if you became the Jew? Would the black woman send you to the gas chamber? They ain't got that, no more. They would have a disintegration chamber. You step in, you turn to dust. They got some shit. Now you step in there. You just gotta sweep your ass up out of that mother. So let's be honest, you think about that. You think about that. You think about that because something's coming oh yeah, something's coming you can feel it if you have any level of spiritual
Speaker 3:discernment oh it's a heaviness. Something is coming something is coming and I feel that it's going to come from either side and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a matter of do you want to be swept up or do you want to?
Speaker 3:be, locked up, because from that side we don't really know what to expect. We know what to expect from this clown. I mean, he has made it loud and clear.
Speaker 1:I think you do. He's made it loud and clear.
Speaker 3:Well, you can prepare yourself. Let me say that We've already had him for four years before, and he's very loud and adamant about who he is, his stance, what he believes. So, as a people, we can take what he's telling us and prepare ourselves. On the other hand, we don't know what this person is going to do and how they're going to do it, so it's like being snuck in. You didn't know it was coming.
Speaker 2:So let me ask the other version Would you rather be blessed by a white man or blessed by a black woman? As a black man From a rather be blessed by a white man or blessed by a black woman as a black man, from a presidential standpoint. As a black man as a black man.
Speaker 1:As black people in this room. I'm getting blessed by the white man or I'm getting blessed by the black woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which would you rather have?
Speaker 1:Who do I think will bless me as a black man more?
Speaker 2:Which would you rather have?
Speaker 1:I think that the white man would bless a black man more than a black woman would bless a black man, because the blessings would be different. Again, when we talk about blessings, that means now they're doing something nice for you. What's nice for a man to another man? If a white man is blessing you, that's going to be more likely a blessing that men can like. You're talking about me as a man. No, you're talking about me as a people. What are we talking about here? Us as a people what are we talking about here?
Speaker 1:Us as a people, as a people, oh, okay, yeah, as a people?
Speaker 2:Do you feel like a white man is going to prioritize the blessings of the black community?
Speaker 1:throughout the United States. Oh, you're saying us as a black people or us as a people of the nation?
Speaker 3:So for that I would have to say a black woman, Because I feel like a black woman knows what blessings her community needs. But then it goes back to the level of black, you know?
Speaker 1:um? Now let me ask you this joy what do you agree? Because this is what, and I'm, I can present some statistics to you okay do you believe that? Are you one of the inks that believe that women don't rule with their logical thinking and men think with their logic? Women are going to rule with their emotions and men are going to use their brains more of the time. Their logic is like the assessments of history.
Speaker 2:Right brain, left brain.
Speaker 1:To make choices in life. And what do you think? I want to hear you. Do you think men are more? Do you? Are you one of the ones that they both believe nowadays?
Speaker 3:men, are sassy, so it's really hard to you know. I feel like there are more. Women are tougher nowadays. We think yeah we have come a long way from our emotions, whereas now you have men that are reacting and doing things more out of their emotions than the women are. So I really feel that the roles have reversed and I think that it's just time for a woman leader.
Speaker 1:And so I have to say that's not true. I wouldn't say it's more exposed, it's just put in front of me.
Speaker 3:Men are sassy nowadays. I don't know that many sassy men in my life and I don't mean sassy in in my life, but the world will put sassy men out in front.
Speaker 1:This world is run by.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that the roles have been reversed, but I do think that they've kind of like, come closer to a middle ground big time it's just the people that are in power.
Speaker 1:The people that are in power are using two things now using logic and emotion. And so if you're combining a man with a woman, you're gonna be in touch with both sides, even more so. But when you're playing and so and so, in certain ways it can help you when it comes to empathy and stuff like that. But when it comes to playing chess, what ain't no fucking emotion in chess?
Speaker 3:Tell me so you really don't think a woman can run the country?
Speaker 1:Let's be real. I don't know. I give him a chance. This ain't never been done.
Speaker 2:I mean, a man has been running this country for how long Hold on.
Speaker 3:A man has been running the country for how long? The whole entire time, on hold, on hold on. A man has been running the country for how long, the whole entire time, exactly, and look where we are.
Speaker 1:Look where we are. Look where we are. We are the greatest nation in the world, are we? We have been.
Speaker 3:Are we?
Speaker 1:We have you gotta understand we have been.
Speaker 3:Let me ask his question let.
Speaker 2:Let me ask his question a different way. Okay, is the system set up for a woman to become president? That's a different question. I mean, it's the same question but a different way. Is this country set up in a way that, uh, that it would be, that it would? I don't know.
Speaker 3:Like what's the country set up for a black man to become president?
Speaker 1:No, because.
Speaker 3:And he did For two terms.
Speaker 1:But it wasn't set up for him. They pushed at him. He couldn't barely pass anything. And now it seems like the Republicans get anything they want, no matter who's in power. They passing laws, putting it's like why are they pushing this? How's this, how are they able to push this? Why does it seem like the democrats never pushed stuff, but maybe they say they pushed it with some of the things that did get all passed by obama, but the things that all I'm saying is I I think that let's just give them a chance, but I'm gonna tell you like this here, from my experience and from just looking at the one you look at a resume, even in listen y'all, when you get in relationships.
Speaker 1:We're gonna touch on relationships in a second, but you gotta and I you gotta look at a person's resume.
Speaker 3:What's their history. What's their?
Speaker 1:history. So that's what men are worried about. She hasn't shown the competence of when she had power, of using her power to the best of her ability. She made emotional choices. Why are you holding evidence from this man that could save his?
Speaker 3:life. And then I think we have to remember too, she's just one piece of the chess game that you're talking about. So you know, a lot of times we get fixated on who's our president, but we're not looking at the people that are actually making the laws and passing them, oh yeah that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying like see, like republicans got stuff moved still now like look at that. That was the point of our last episode democrats are in power, but there's still total bans on abortion. Now it was now. I'm not for or against it, it don't matter. I feel like, like.
Speaker 3:I say I'm one of these people that believe.
Speaker 1:Hey, as long as you're not excuse me, I see that's how I got it.
Speaker 1:As long as you're not infringing on my rights personal you're doing something that. So if you want to stab yourself a thousand times, personal, you're doing something that. So if you want to stab yourself a thousand times, I'm not gonna outlaw you. Yeah, you might die. You're gonna kill yourself, whatever happens. Whatever happens in the after, whatever your after believe, when you pass on, let you deal with that. Who am I to judge you? Long as you're not infringing and not trying to fuck with my kids and trying to put the pins on my kids, let my kids be innocent and natural.
Speaker 1:It don't need to be time for sexual deviance on YouTube and Disney and this and that. Let my kids do what they want to do. I know which way I want my kids to go, but let them deal with that innocently. Is this too much sexual deviance? Now, that's all. What you're doing is sexual. Do it in your privacy. Okay, you wanna do what you wanna do, do it. That's fine. Why am I minding my fucking business? But don't push. Nobody needs to be screwing. And so there's some things you know. I don't know if you're familiar with the term project 2025.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, so there are some things that I agree with, like what Censoring porn.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Criminalizing sex work Criminalizing I'm okay with it. They create if they, if they ban OnlyFans, hey and again, I'm okay with it. Hey, if they ban OnlyFans, hey and again. I'm going to say this, like I said, you probably heard me say this, but I don't knock it. If you do OnlyFans, get your money, man, right.
Speaker 3:Because it's there having you over for you. Go get it.
Speaker 1:But if they criminalize it, I'm not going to be saying, oh no, oh no, they ban, stop watching this shit anyway, and focus on some prosperity, yeah, and make you better for it.
Speaker 1:Some substance yeah, because it ruins your mentality towards women. Anyway, the people that is fucking with porn. You look at women. You can't build bonds with women because you look at them as straight sexual objects. You don't know how to. You don't look at them, nothing but something to get you off off. You don't know how to make it all the way every time you've had it because you ain't never. You never was a person that's gonna go out there and be personable anyway and go have charisma and talk to women anyway. You only see him from when you getting off on your computer screen or your phone screen, so when you meet a woman, you don't know how to deal with her.
Speaker 1:You think that's how you think they form. Yeah, that's the only reactions you have in your damn basement yeah, look what he done to kurt franklin I.
Speaker 3:The man is older now and he still has struggles from. You know when that was an addiction for him Exactly. It also is your brain.
Speaker 1:Terry Crews. So I'm not against that. I really do, Kanye West.
Speaker 3:If I was the president, I'm telling you now I would be scared to kind of live under you you got me a little nervous.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'll be fair to everybody. Hear what I said now. You hear what I said now, because I'm going to make the generation better, my kids, these kids. This is the future. I'm thinking about it. If you do, whatever you're doing, I'm going to let you do it, but I ain't, finna, make no bad things for you. I ain't, finna, let you get no sports and shit. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't make you.
Speaker 1:Get no sports against the you ain't finna be no man that genetically didn't modify yourself and go in like they did in Olympics, or they claimed it. I don't know if it's true or not, cause they suing they said that that she actually was but you, you beating up, that's true.
Speaker 1:I'm not going for that. Yeah, me neither. But if you wanna do what you wanna do, go ahead, brother, but you, but you ain't finna be nobody, man or woman, finna be able to promote sexuality in a just so crazy way. Well, now you just all on man. They got nothing. They got nothing but half of nothing on shaking ass and shaking balls and cat.
Speaker 3:What are they doing? It desensitizes us and I don't want that. Yeah, we have desensitized to murder now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, used to see a person land in the street dead body, part land over here. He'd be like oh my God, now you, oh damn.
Speaker 3:And go on go on, that's real.
Speaker 1:That's real Desensitization, because that's why these games like Modern Warfare and shit it desensitizes you to what's coming other places all over the world. You know what I'm saying. I hope it's not coming, but you still desensitize, man, these kids. That's why you have more Look, now more than ever Timmy from Rome we've talked about this too these teachers. It's because the students are desensitized. Now they shooting at the teachers. That's why some of these teachers giving in Might be a fly guy, something flirting with a teacher. She ain't getting something at home, or she, her husband, ain't doing right at home and she gonna take the bait now. That's your fault, but that's why I say you gotta have logic.
Speaker 3:Well then, and then I think, with that too there is no back. I know, you know, I was born in the 90s, um, but the way I was raised, you know, was by old school parents that kids were kids and adults were adults oh, yeah, and so now what happens is there's no boundaries of children and adults.
Speaker 3:It's like, well, they're kids, but they have a voice, but this, but that, and so what happens is kids are playing on the same you know lines that adults are playing on. There's just there's no boundaries anymore between adults and kids. And for me, you know, I'm raising one of my nieces. My sister passed one of her kids, one of her daughters live with me. I don't play, I'm your aunt, but you're going to respect me.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, you know and yeah, very old school, you know certain things you're not going to watch, certain things that we're not going to listen to at it, we playing any music and everything, even on Sundays.
Speaker 1:See, when I grew up, I mentioned this on Sundays hey, we going to church. You better not touch a rap station or 102 or 97.9.
Speaker 3:I couldn't watch BET growing up, especially after dark. That was something you tried to sneak and watch, right, you know, you see back then you had to have a harder access to that content.
Speaker 1:You had to sneak up and watch BETN Cut or HBO Late at Night.
Speaker 3:Remember HBO Late at Night. Oh yeah, girls Gone Wild who remember real sex?
Speaker 1:Yeah, who remember real sex? Y'all freaking motherfuckers remember real sex out there, because some of y'all grew up fast.
Speaker 3:And if adults were having an adult night? Playing cards, dominoes you stay your ass upstairs. Kids were separated. It was playing cards, dominoes. Kids were separated, it was completely different, you know you going upstairs?
Speaker 1:yeah, you're going to be with the kids and if you, come into the room with an adult don't you come down here, you already ate you already took a bath. You already get your bathroom. Go pee, don't come down here. That's true. That's the laws. Now the kids is in the mix they sitting at the card table. They treating their kids like grown ups now, expecting them to do grown up things. You know mix. Yeah, they sitting at the court, at the court table. They treating their kids like grown-ups now yeah, expecting them to do grown-up things.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know responsibilities. Hey, you hit the nail on the head with that one. It's just, it's too much desensitized, desensitized. You know what I'm saying I always get jumbled up here every episode Desensitized. Yeah, and that's part of the problem. But that goes back to some of this. I would make it.
Speaker 3:Who gonna get mad?
Speaker 1:So y'all out here in the world wanna get mad at me because I wanna protect and say, look, y'all have to go and watch a video. Make your money today, but stop showing ass and titties and stuff and making it easy. You got these social media sites. If I find out that you can be fined. If I find out that children are accessing your site, you're going to pay a fine. Make more money for the country because you're going to start regulating that shit. Now they get through VPNs, they line through VPNs and shit and we got VPNs on. Make VPNs pay more.
Speaker 3:But is it their responsibility or yours?
Speaker 1:It's the leaders of the. That's why you need a leader.
Speaker 3:Because these people don't know how to handle. They say a leader leads, it's the leader's responsibility, but what I'm saying is it, is it someone's else response? So if I, if I am the owner of um, only fans, is it my responsibility to keep your child off of this, or is it yours?
Speaker 1:hey, you want to keep in my, in my mind, as a leader. You want to have you making money on these only fans, ain't you sir? You, sir, you want to keep making money. You better find protocols to keep these children. Are you going to keep paying a fine for every child that I find out that access your content? Ain't nothing wrong with that Joy?
Speaker 3:In my mentality there's nothing wrong. But you're the parent. Why are you not making sure your child got on there?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, but that's OK, but stillstate the importance, though, of the mobile phone, and whether or not you allow your kids to go on it or not. They could be in their room on it, they could be in the car on it, they could be in the backyard on it and in my opinion, a child doesn't need a cell phone until a certain age. What should a child have a phone for? But that's become the new babysitter.
Speaker 3:People don't spend time with their kids anymore. It's no coming to the table sitting down talking to your kids having family dinner. It's I want to be watching my reality tv show. I want you to be quiet.
Speaker 1:So here go a phone, here go a tablet. From the moment they born I said that you putting damn phone in no relationship.
Speaker 3:No, so, and I mean, you know, and a lot of parents as educators, I have a lot of friends that are educators. Is that the mark of the beast or something I think so.
Speaker 1:You know, it just leads you down the path. At an early age. You expose yeah, at an early age.
Speaker 3:I have a lot of friends that are educators and they complain that there's no relationship with parents and their kids. You know it comes to the end of the school year. These parents are, like you, going to the next grade, but the parent was nowhere in sight the entire year, never showed up to the school, never answered the phone.
Speaker 2:But then you're mad at the educator because you didn't educate my child and what's what I think is is interesting is that there's no blueprint for this day and age that we have now yeah nobody knows what to do or how to get out of this.
Speaker 3:Yeah we created a technology that we're addicted to.
Speaker 2:We created uh, apps and stuff like that that took down our attention. Uh, and everybody from the parents to the teenagers to the little kids are all using this stuff, yeah, so how do you break that down? How do you break down a system that large part of your economy not not even forget the the degeneracy right large part of your production? Amazon, facebook, buying things off of apps, selling products, promoting products online are done through mobile devices.
Speaker 3:So how do you break that down? Did you guys ever see the interview where Apple employees said that their kids are only allowed to use technology one or two hours out the day? Now they create this stuff and sell it to us and our family.
Speaker 2:But their children. That's what Bill Gates said. That to you.
Speaker 3:They use it for school or for research purposes a little entertainment. But the way our kids have access to it they do not, because they know what it does to their children's mind. And these are the people that are creating this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, and that's something that you know we as parents need to implement, because I have a child that he's going to watch that phone. Yeah, I may get back to y'all today because I'm glad you said that I may implement that test study and since y'all can catch me live, tell you how it's going over the time. I'll tell you three months later what's the changes I've seen come talk to me, pick up a book come talk to me, tell me what you're going through. How was school today?
Speaker 1:people don't even ask their kid how was school? Can you believe that? How was school today? And then they'll let the kid come in there and say, good what does that mean?
Speaker 1:okay, they let them go on about their weight. Yeah, I'm going to death. What did you learn today? We don't do that no more. You know, we don't do that anymore and and and we don't think. Here go the thing we don't. We don't think as much for ourselves. We still think, but definitely not as much for ourselves as we do anymore. And people that's it's people that can't come up with invent a new recipe because they always on youtube. You might have discovered a new way to cook fried chicken or something, but you're watching, you go to. You don't know how to cook first of all, but then you go to youtube and watch them cook, and so that's the way you know how to do it yeah, yeah you know the same thing with life we can't come up with new things.
Speaker 1:We're gonna start letting machines do it. That's what's gonna happen to happen. You're going to let AI. There's so many people now that let AI write their papers. Wow, don't have pride in their own mentality. I'm just. I'm so busy. Let me just hit this AI.
Speaker 3:Well, we know, let me write this paper for me, for school, and you can tell, because then, when you have conversation with them, they don't talk your conversation. They don't know that subject matter, didn't you just?
Speaker 2:say this, Jimmy, in this paper.
Speaker 3:That paper, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the president. Man, I wasn't talking about the president, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. You know, one thing is good that you know we kind of touching on these things. But one point that we need to get across is we all on the same page and we need excuse me, we all need to be on the same page. Let's just get educated, everybody. Let's just change the way we do things. We already know hundreds of years of oppression then pushed us to a situation where we kind of don't have the same advantages of other cultures that weren't enslaved or didn't grow up with everything, that wasn't depressed excuse me at the depressed or held back right or discriminated against.
Speaker 1:But now we intelligent enough to start, isn't? You have no excuses now to rise up out of the ash. You have all of the resources that you've never had, and you have more resources now that you ever had in 1879. What recent look at the resource you got now composed to when you was in 1879 in America.
Speaker 2:Yep, you see what I'm saying, or?
Speaker 1:1888 or whatever the hell. It was 1679. Look at the resources you have now. You have no excuse to climb up out of that hole.
Speaker 2:I agree. My thing is, for me it's also realizing that big changes start small and they take a long time. So, like what you're doing mental health stuff, like that for the full effects of us, to see that it's going to be like 100, 200, 300 years, but that's because. But you can create communities and even big pockets of people who value that stuff. But then for like the whole society to change, that does take a long, long time, but it's like society to change that does take a long, long time.
Speaker 1:See, people want the change to happen in their lifetime.
Speaker 2:In their lifetime. That's what they want.
Speaker 1:You need to think about. I need to change my child, make it better for my child.
Speaker 1:So then he got what he had and it wasn't much, but it was better than what I had. So then he makes it better for his child and it's better than what he had. So until you wash that shit out of your family, generation and system, that mentality, you gotta wash it out through behaviors and generations. You gotta wash out changes. My dad used to smoke crack. Exactly, I never wanted to smoke crack, but my dad used to rob Too. He used to rob and smoke crack. So I didn't smoke crack, but I robbed. My kid now see me in prison. He seen how it happened to me. He don't want to rob no more. So now that's not a problem. He did so.
Speaker 1:He don't smoke crack and he don't rob, you know he might just be uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh something else smoke a little weed, smoke a little, yeah, and he don't have that same drive that a person that didn't smoke we had. So this kid will see him smoking weed and be like, well, my dad, he was good, okay, but he didn't have much of a drive. He kind of worked a little job at the warehouse and smoked his weed or whatever. I didn't like the way he turned out. Now I'm not going to smoke weed. So now I'm not going to smoke weed.
Speaker 1:I'm going to work a nine-to-five and go and get me a pension and retire. But my kids see me and I'm preaching to my kid like, hey, my life was okay, but you can do better by going to college. So now my kids see me. My dad, he just worked nine to five. He's this old blue collar guy and he saw you doing that.
Speaker 3:And then he said well, let me go to college and let me go get me a little bachelor's degree and then to go on forth and forth and improve.
Speaker 1:That's how you got to do it. You can't sit there and hey what you do. Somebody's going to be watching and say, well, I ain't like that what they did.
Speaker 3:And you should hope not.
Speaker 2:You should hope that your kids and your grandkids and your great-grandkids are going to be even better than you Always. That's how you do it.
Speaker 3:So, with what y'all are saying, I guess my thing right now has been who are the leaders of our generation? You, who are the leaders of our generation? You know, like you know, from 20 to I'm going to say 45, who's our leaders? You know the older generations. They had their Malcolm X. You know they had their leaders that attempted to lead change within the black community. Who do we have, outside of our rappers? I'd say Obama. I'd say Obama Outside of our rappers.
Speaker 2:He's outside the age range you're talking about, but I'd say I'd say outside of my rappers. He's outside the age range you're talking about, but I'd say obama, whether or not we agree with his policy or whatever, that was a very big moment for black culture in the us, all over the world, really that was a big.
Speaker 1:There was a start, so it's going to be more.
Speaker 3:It's going to be more after that, if god says and I say that to say that we, we need new leaders.
Speaker 1:We need, we need new leaders.
Speaker 2:We need new leaders, but we also have to appreciate the people who are here who are doing good work, like the lady who's the supreme on the supreme court, the black lady who got in there. They asking her the dumbest questions I ever heard, asking her racist questions. But she is a leader. She could be a big leader for our community. We could really look up to her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you talking about Kejani Brown, exactly Kejani, it's Kay Brown, I know Brown.
Speaker 3:Brown With the dreads.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:With the dreads.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's married to the Caucasian guy. Yeah, yeah I know you're talking about Keanu Brown, but it's going to take. I'm going to tell you, I think the best president will come out of 85. Whoever born in 85 right now, they're going to be probably one of the best presidents, because they got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2:You were born in 85.
Speaker 3:That is so biased, that is so biased.
Speaker 1:No, listen because listen to me listen to me talk who wouldn't Do y'all want me to start running for president? I swear I'll be the fairest. I just got to learn foreign policy and economics better, but I will not oppress anybody, but you ain't finished. It's going to be said you might not, hey, you're not going to be able to expose these kids to sexual deviation. You know what I'm saying? We need these kids, our future generation. We're dependent on them.
Speaker 3:I think we are. For me, that's just the scariest thing for our community. I don't see just a lot of leaders rising up. I feel that a lot of the older generation is struggling because they don't feel comfortable enough to pass the torch. I'm not going to say it's not nothing there, because there are leaders, but I think that there's a breakdown somewhere. You see a lot of older leaders that are saying what do we do? Because I'm tired. I ran the race, you know I've paved the way, but who do I trust to come under me and take this torch? And the big thing about that I love what you said.
Speaker 2:A big thing about that is how exponentially more advanced we got with technology in a short amount of time. So they're looking at us like, hey, I don't even know what the younger generation is doing. They don't understand that information comes out on Twitter before it comes out on CNN. They don't understand that you can use Wi-Fi and apps and all these things to be hyperproductive. They don't understand that they're trying like find someone to hand the baton, to not understand that we're like. We're like a different generation entirely.
Speaker 3:But then you have a lot of us in our generation that we don't really get off into what's really important sometimes, and so, because of technology, if social media don't say that it's fun or it's the thing to do, we're not villaging about it. So you have a lot of people that you know are young people that could really be really good leaders, but social media has us so caught up and so we're so busy trying to like, stunt and look good, become influencers. This is the influence. You know. Community is just crazy. But what are we really influencing people to do? You know? So I think that that's just something that I've been very like just praying about, like, rise up leaders that actually care about their community, that will do stuff within the community, because that's where change comes Right. So, you know, just getting off of social media for a little while and learning politics A lot of young people don't know politics.
Speaker 1:You know what I said. You say I said to ask my kids one day. They was here. I say, say, can you name the three branches of government? And they in high school couldn't do it. Try to sit down and educate them on the three branches of government executive legislator, legislator, yeah, hey, and then explain to them what they all do and and what's the purpose. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But if you probably ask, them. That's something you should know who's the most viral person on TikTok? They can't even tell you.
Speaker 1:My kids couldn't even tell you who the damn vice president is. Wow, that's what that's, because they're not paying. They're paying attention to Mr Beast whoever his name is on YouTube. They're paying attention to I Show Speed, mm-hmm, uh, uh, uh, what's his name? Uh, uh, ka, kaissanat, kaissanat. Hey, god bless all them. Brothers, I'm not gonna you do your thing. You ain't getting they money. But when you ain't getting that kind of money, you need to be trying to figure out how can you set yourself up. Take care of your business first. You steady watching other people doing their shine. You want to watch other people living, lavish, shining and shit, instead of you sitting there. Well damn, let me go. Do this, not watch them. Do this, not even try to copy them. Do this, let me just. And they not trying to push themselves. This is a generation of kids that don't think for themselves, a generation of kids that don't think for themselves. They're quicker to shoot now. They're quicker to kill.
Speaker 2:Big time. But my thing is, my concern, or maybe I shouldn't be concerned about it, but the people that they're going to vote for your kids when they're 18, 22, you know whatever are going to be, Mr Beast, they're going to be Not literally them the fun guy and going to be.
Speaker 3:Not literally there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get what you're saying, but somebody like that who, like they, have no experience in office, but they know how to run their mouth on you know online the popular person?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the popular person.
Speaker 3:How do y'all feel about our current possible president. And so sorry we shift into that where the resume may not be in depth.
Speaker 2:I think that's a perfect shift, though. Yeah, because that's how I see it. Like you think Trump is bad or you think Trump is good. Well, wait, wait, 15, 20 years down the road when you have Trump 2.0 who has? 100 million followers on YouTube and 100 million followers on X and 100 million followers on IG. That's a good way to look at that.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a bunch of people at the polls just closing their eyes, holding their nose and pressing the button. I promise you, if that's what's going to happen, it's going to happen, it's going to happen.
Speaker 3:Did y'all see how much money they raised for her in so little time? Yeah, women are powerful. There was women that came together. Women, no emotions, no Logic. No, I think that's a lot of emotions.
Speaker 1:I think they're threatening women's rights. That's what they're fucking up with. You're telling a woman what to do with her body. That's what they're messing up with. That's one of the biggest things that they're messing up with. Like stop. They're saying hey, you can't. They're locking them down. You can't go, you, you can't. If it's gonna start being a crime to even fly the state to go try to get abortions and shit now and people can report you and get reward money.
Speaker 1:So that's like starting to be too much for women. That that's like. This is my body. I got raped. Yeah, you know I don't like this guy. He's a fucking deadbeat. I already seen some side of him. I seen a side of him.
Speaker 2:But then again too.
Speaker 1:Now let it. I say, let it happen, let them do it. They want to do it, let them do it she got to deal with later on in life. If that's something she got to deal with, let her deal with it. You got to let people be. God doesn't let you not take a step to the abortion clinic. He don't, he gonna. He gonna deal with what he got. If he feel like something wrong with that later, he's gonna come deal with that later, maybe if that's something that he doesn't like. So you shouldn't't be playing God trying to control another human.
Speaker 3:It's like we live. We're starting to live under a dictatorship and this country was, was supposed to be, a democracy. Yeah. And so it's like do we want a dictatorship or do we want to stick to what we said this country was supposed to?
Speaker 2:be. This country was never a democracy. You just let people crash if they want to crash, not for us.
Speaker 3:That's how I feel it wasn't Not for the natives.
Speaker 1:These grown ass people. If they want to crash and burn, do something that they want to do. Let them do it. That's going to piss them off. If they can't do it, that's why you lose votes. That's why you're going to lose votes. You're not going to rule with just authority. Hey look, you're not going to be able to commit crimes and get away with it. I'm going to stop sexual divacy on public. If you want to do it in privacy and it's got to be locked down privacy and if you get caught, you're going to get punished for getting caught for somebody caught in this shit.
Speaker 3:But the thing about has that ever really?
Speaker 1:been private? Or is it just more exposure now, because it's on social media. Well to me, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It don't matter to me. We're going to lock this shit down because I need my kid growing up with innocence.
Speaker 3:Because now we have only fans, but back in the day they had madams, they had whorehouses, I mean it's like but there ain't got to show your ID to go lock it up in that room.
Speaker 1:Hey, go to bed. It's time for you to go to bed and get in bed. And you go up there and they got the phone under the cover Looking at porn and shit. You don't know what they're doing. You really don't know. Now again, it used to be so hard to access sexual content. As a kid. We agreed on it on an episode Now.
Speaker 1:It's so easy and it's showing. It's showing, and a lot of our stunting as black people and people period is because of women. Women do hold a lot of power. Women are the cause for all this damn stunting.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:They are. You want to have the best car, you want to have the fly's ride.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no. And the women want to have the flys right. No, no, no. And the woman want to have the best booty. There are women that you can. There are women that that want a man of substance. Oh yeah, yes, of course. But there are men that you know they're attracted to the wrong type of women. I mean, if you attracted to a woman because of her hips and her breasts, but you're not, you know, trying to be attracted to what's on the inside, that's your fault. So you get what you get when you come on the other side of it, you know. So it's like a case. I mean, y'all have to take responsibility too, but would you say, I think we both have to take responsibility and not disproportionately assign like responsibility.
Speaker 1:Like you're saying, there are a lot of good women out there yeah, a lot of good niggas out there right exactly but we we assign so much power to the, to the toxic extremes on both sides, people like, and then we think people love the norm, people love, oh yeah, they love drama, they love drama you think that women really want to go lay on the table and get a bbl.
Speaker 3:But in a lot of women's mind, you know, nowadays, if you don't have the body you are, you feel like you're competing with all of these different women that then when spent you know, five, ten thousand dollars on their body. So it's becoming a trend. Because I want to be married, I want a man to take me serious. But most women know that men they don't pay attention to what's in here. They, a man, is going to be attracted to you by what he sees first.
Speaker 1:First, First, at least first, almost always first A lot of times, what's the first thing you look at a man when you look at him? It's both people. I look at their face and their feet. I would tell you. My grandpa would tell me look at their hands. Their nails is dirty, their feet toes ugly. They crushed up and they got dirt on their toes. They crushed up. They ain't totally crunched up, they ain't got no paint on them and all that shit. Yeah, like that's not attractive.
Speaker 2:But when she looks at your feet, she's looking at your shoes to see hey, does he have money, does he have style? She's looking at your feet for your money, see if you clean he's looking at your feet to see if you clean.
Speaker 1:He ain't looking at your feet to see if you got money. When he's looking at she got some nice, shaped, pretty toes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:She got some nice, pretty toes, I think it's work to be done on both sides. It's work to be done on both sides. We can agree.
Speaker 1:And like you were saying we love drama.
Speaker 3:So, much of this country it revolves around drama. It's a big reality TV show, right?
Speaker 2:Exactly I always tell people this country is like the carnival. It's like an adult carnival, all over everywhere. You go in, you take your ticket, you go in, you take the rides, you pay to do all the rides you pay back into the system, the rides keep going because you're paying to keep them going and you go and you watch the clowns dance around, you watch the Cirque du Soleil, people doing all this that's literally what this country is like, entertainment-wise at least.
Speaker 2:One big thing I did want to touch upon about, on the politics a big thing is I do think that there are a lot of young people who do go into politics, but the thing is it's a family thing. It stays in the family. So if your dad's in politics, you go into politics. If your mom's in politics, you're more likely to go into politics. You stay in that kind of lane and when not a lot of black people have family in those political spheres, who do you think is going to be making the laws, the rules? It's going to be the white people who've been there three, four, six, ten generations, all the way back to Abraham Lincoln and everything like that, all the way back to to abraham lincoln and everything like that.
Speaker 2:They're gonna stay and that family value that they've instilled, yeah, is gonna stay. And that racism that that stays there, it's gonna stay. It's gonna keep going into the, into the industry, it's gonna keep going into the executive, the judicial, the legislative branches. It's gonna stay in those, in those areas. And that's why a lot of times we can feel like this country hasn't changed, because it doesn't. We're getting the same people over Same bloodline and over bloodline, over nepotism, almost like Hollywood nepotism, nepo babies.
Speaker 1:So, Miss Joy, I got a question for you because this is one of the debates that's been going on in the man-female community as well. Yeah, In today's world where we have all agreed now, inflation is high, the cost of living is high.
Speaker 3:I already know Wait, hold up.
Speaker 1:Time's out. Wait, time's out, just wait. Where we agreed, did we all agree? Do we all agree? I just want to make sure because I don't want to be on a different page. Do we all agree that inflation is high, the cost of living is high and we're on the world? Yes, so how do you feel about when, uh, it's dynamics and relationships now where women are required by a lot of men now to contribute more to the relationship because everybody ain't making 150 000 and can take that we, we need help too sometimes you want my, my real.
Speaker 1:I want your real opinion. We want real the camera on you.
Speaker 3:Zoom in Y'all see, just zoom in, let's get this live. I think, for me, my mentality is different, right? So I'm a hustler, just by nature. It's in my blood, it's in my DNA. So I don't believe that it's anybody else's responsibility to necessarily take care of me. I've never been the type of woman and Lord, I'm probably going to be bashed, but I don't believe that my companionship is responsible for providing a certain type of lifestyle for me. I'm very big on partnership and I'll say that a lot Like you know, the person that you connect yourself with, that you marry, that's your partner in life. I have my journey, you have yours, but we have a common vision for our union, right? Um? So I think that the reality of it is you need to pull your weight and I mean that's, that's just like I said, that's a personal opinion of mine. Um, I do know that you know, one person is always going to make more than the other, but I think it's unrealistic to believe that the world we live in you're supposed to be kept. We don't live.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, y'all hear this this is a woman of substance and sense a very difficult question do you think?
Speaker 2:in general, it's more important for the man to make more money than the woman, even if you're both bottling, even if you're both millionaires. Do you feel like it's more important for the man to make more money than the woman? Even if you're both balling, even if you're both millionaires? Do you feel like it's more important for the man to make more money than the woman?
Speaker 3:Whew Whether it's Acquiring.
Speaker 1:Minds want to know this answer, not even talking about you specifically, just in general.
Speaker 3:Okay, I think it's important because we still have a lot of men that are For me. If I make more money, then I'm gonna want to have a say in my household of what's going on more. Okay, I agree, um, because, hey, you know, get off that power trip, yeah, and I, but you know, in general you have a lot of men that are still power drivendriven. It's an ego thing versus looking at it as, once again, we're a partnership, one come and go for this union, we're both the president. It's 50-50.
Speaker 3:You have these men that are like no, I'm the head regardless.
Speaker 1:I want to hear your answer.
Speaker 3:What's the head? Why can't we both come together and make this work?
Speaker 2:You're saying you're both the president, but I can't think of a single time in history where there have been two presidents. It doesn't mean it can't happen. Listen, listen.
Speaker 1:I want to hear your answer, because if Kamala is going to be the head of a country and you say there's no time when a woman should be a head, so you answered the question right, Because I was just going to say well then, how can Kamala be?
Speaker 3:okay. So you know what? But I think non-traditional. Yeah, I think non-traditional because we don't live in a traditional society. All right, I agree with you. I agree, you got to be smart.
Speaker 1:Use your damn brain. We're not in the same world as evolving.
Speaker 3:Women have more power now.
Speaker 1:But you have a lot of women that want to be kept. The men have the power, and they were taking care of the home.
Speaker 2:So then, do we need to redefine marriage?
Speaker 1:For me is that marriage just be what it is. I mean well go ahead.
Speaker 3:I say yeah, because you know, like I said, it's a lot of women that I know. You know I have friends, they want to be kept, they, they are looking for somebody to take care of them. And I tell them all the time listen, no, no, no, it's going to be harder to find that. And if you do find somebody that's going to provide for you, then you're living by their rules and everything that they believe, and so get attitudes Exactly.
Speaker 3:Exactly so for me. I don't look at marriage traditionally. Um, I do feel that, hey, this is a new century, this is a new time. Women are not standing at home baking pies. We're going to the store, we're getting the tools to get you know the pies already baked, I'm just putting it in the oven, you know. And so I just think that's where we are as a world and hopefully people begin to allow their minds to get to that place.
Speaker 1:Bottom line is you have to evolve. Nowadays, you got to evolve with the times. Women are not the stay-at-home caretakers that they used to be. They have opportunities that they have, but, see, women have to get out of that mindset too, though, and start being aware of their surroundings, just like black people, just like we were saying hey, you're not in the 1776, your opportunities are more now, so you don't have that excuse of hey, you got to use what you have now to come out of the hole and do same with women now.
Speaker 3:But there are some women that want to be taken care children.
Speaker 1:And nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3:And nothing is wrong with that you got to find what works for you, but for me no if I want to build the empire and you want to be able to have more than you've ever had, you know, go further. We got to run this race together.
Speaker 1:Do you remember Real Housewives of Atlanta? I think it was. You probably don't remember this episode episode, but you remember. Everybody know what's her name? Is it on the pretty? I love her. She's. No, she was married to kit cordell stewart. She was young, uh porsche, oh porsche. Yeah, he was saying, if you want to work and this, and that we ain't finna have no baby. Then she wanted a baby or something. He was like nah, and his mind was like we ain't gonna need to have no kids and stuff. If you want to work, you want to work, and who won't? I ain't want no kids. So there was a clash where actually the brother was making sense because he was rich, so she didn't have to work. That's what he was saying Like you don't have to work, but since you want to work, well, then we're going. We can do that. That's fine, but we don't need to be trying to have kids and stuff but why not?
Speaker 1:Because in has changed. I'm not saying that I wouldn't say the same thing, but in his mind that make it change. I want you to stay home and raise the kid. If we got the kid he was more traditional in that fashion. But if you do want to work, go ahead, but if you do that.
Speaker 3:But I think that's still that ego-driven inside of a man. Men will always look at women, as you know.
Speaker 1:Lesser and lead Lesser. Yeah, Listen to what I say.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know, okay, stay home, I make the money, you stay home. But why do I have to stay home? Why you can't you make the money, why you can't help with the kids? Right, you know, I have my thing going, you have your thing going. Both of us give to our child.
Speaker 1:That means that believes if we're both going to work, that's better for the household. Now I was making 150, but I had to allocate 50 60 of it to take care of his family and he's maybe 80 of it to take care of his kids and his family. Now I make 150, you make 100, 000, we make 250 and we are both pouring in exactly. I believe I'm one of those I come up with. I'll be. Hey, I believe in a percentage rule. It ain't fair for us both. Now, we both got this, we both agreed to get this house. But if I'm making $50,000 and you're making $100,000 and the mortgage is $1,500, well, you pay $1,000 and I pay $500. Because that would be fair.
Speaker 3:But then are you going to also sit back and you know, feel like.
Speaker 1:It ain't 50-, 50, 50 I dictate all the.
Speaker 3:You know, I dictate everything. Okay, no, so, and I feel like that's what a breakdown happens, because yeah, I clean. Okay, there you go I wash my own clothes.
Speaker 1:I don't if a woman didn't do that for me. Hey, they ain't gonna be a breaker for me because I ain't grew up like that. I wasn't raised like that. Yeah, I was raised, you know, to do stuff on my own, because you can't always count on somebody. So what are you going to do when you can't count on someone? That's why I like to learn stuff, anything I learn, because I don't want my operation being shut down because I own this and I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 3:I got to go call somebody and my thing is when it comes to like, nothing is wrong with, like you know, being a woman that cooks, cleans, you know, take care, you can hire a maid for that. What else can you bring to the table? And you know, I feel like that's what I try to women around me, or women that I'm attached to be more of substance than just being able to cook and clean. Right, because I'm. You know, you can go to a restaurant, you can hire a maid to come in and cook, you can hire a maid to come in and clean. But what else can you bring to the table in your union besides domestic?
Speaker 1:right, you know things so you know the the, this, this, this is, uh, this is, this is, this is uh, a good conversation, you know, and uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just the point of, of um, you know how we all come together and and can put our minds together and think about things like this, because, at the end of the day, we got to make a change within each other, we got to look at each other and we got to come to an agreement of like, hey, we need to change. I'm talking about the black community. We have to come together and stop infighting, because it's just dividing and conquering. If you're infighting, you see what I'm saying and you know that's just part of it, and we won't come up until we can come together and we are together, but we still got these little things that stop us from being the best, that we can be Right Because we are the best. God forgive me if anybody's insulted, but that's just the case. And so you know again, if we come together, we'll be all right, man, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, what is something that you would say uh, if you let me ask you this, because we I've been president already this episode, if you were the president because I seem a little too extreme sound like yeah, dictatorship.
Speaker 3:what would you go through? What would you do if I was president?
Speaker 1:What would you go through? What?
Speaker 3:would you do If I was president?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what would you suggest? What would you suggest that you would fix in this world? What are some things we didn't get to you? I told you what I don't like. What are some things that Ms Jewel don't you know? I think prison reform.
Speaker 3:Prison reform for me is a big one. Yeah definitely A lot of laws that come to. You know things with children that are like in foster care, just you know their, their rights. You know a lot of kids go through a lot of things and it's because of state laws that are in place.
Speaker 1:So I think that, just like the child welfare system and the prison system would be two big things for me. So that's what you're going to do You're going to get voted in because you're going to fix the prisons.
Speaker 3:That's going to get you to vote.
Speaker 1:That's going to get Miss Jewel elected.
Speaker 3:You know, is that? No, that will be one.
Speaker 1:I mean I think that's your main point. That would be one. Now, I'm not downplaying that, because the prison system.
Speaker 3:It's where a lot of the money is. People don't understand how deep the prison system runs, especially with big companies that we pour our money into. You go to Walmart, you spend your money. They're taking that money and channeling it back into the prison system. So the prison system goes very deep. It's all the way back to slavery and we don't talk about it enough. We just think that people go to jail because they do the crime. But that would be something that I would be very anal about. And then, just like I said, like our kids, our next generation, the education system, the foster system, you know, and then also, I'm just a person that believe that and, like I said, people are probably going to beat me up, but I think that it needs to be a lot of reform.
Speaker 3:When it comes to benefits, I don't know who said that yeah, people getting food stamps hey you didn't watch that last episode.
Speaker 1:You had to because you copping my time, you stealing my time. Seriously, hey, listen, y'all we debating on stage, but y'all we debating on stage, but y'all Y'all heard me say this first. Nah, I'm just kidding, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I'm just saying Like, I think that when it comes to Just like benefits that you know Affect really our community, it makes us stagnated, it makes us lazy and it takes a lot Of responsibility From people that they really need to have.
Speaker 1:So they can move forward. It only capsizes as a people. Yeah, because you have people that are on Section 8 for years.
Speaker 1:I propose a cut-out time Four or five years term limits on benefits, because that's to give you enough time to get you a bachelor's degree. Yeah, I don't want to hear about. You got these kids so you ain't got time for school. We're going to give you four or five years to get you some kind of training. Everything don't take four or five years. You can go get you a welding degree. You can go get you a certification. Ooh Demi.
Speaker 3:Is that for your lifetime or is that per child? Four years per child? I'm saying because, like when it comes to the per child, so is it saying if I have a child right now and my child you're? Still getting a lump sum of benefits so four or five years for my entire life. So you're gonna have 10.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. You're gonna have to pass off. This is gonna be rules and regulate. You ain't, finna, ride the system man, you know all this trying to have five kids so you can have, uh, 20 years. No, no man, them kids gonna be grown by then. No man, we're pushing our citizens to be great. If you wanna make America great again, when was it ever great?
Speaker 1:first of all, yeah, I was just gonna say that, but if you wanna make America great, truly great, push your people to work hard, like you would treat your own kids. You don't hand your kids handouts that goes.
Speaker 3:You, you don't hand your keys handouts. That goes, you know, because a lot of people, when you say benefits, you know people think of our community, which we're not the only people, the only race that receives benefits. But I also think that for people that are coming into this country, the things that they're allowed to have access to that a typical US citizen doesn't have access to. So I think that I would also be very big on there should be laws and time frames for them as well. They come over here and they give them 40 acres and a mule for them to be successful. Just some policies and changes around that as well.
Speaker 1:I mean again, if you guys know us, on this show we're going to keep it real and today I feel like we've kept it very, very real and we had a real young lady step onto the show and, you know, provide us with, you know, her talking point and it was very good and we're appreciative of it. Here on the Real Talk we had a discussion about politics, we discussed Mrs Joy's career and how she was led to the path that she's on, and we also discussed relationships and whatnot. And you know, we hope somebody got something out of this.
Speaker 1:You are a wonderful person.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you all, for having me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. Can you share where they can find you, so they can find you, you know can?
Speaker 3:you share that Facebook is going to be Choose Joy, and then Instagram and TikTok is the same username, so it's going to be Choose underscore. Underscore is Joy 0802.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, One more time for the people in the back because they act like they ignorant Matter of fact. We're going to put this up so y'all are going to see. Follow her. Tyler Perry, you heard what the young lady said. We're all about networking and giving each other a chance. This lady is really involved and does great work. She's worked really hard to be where she is at this point in her life. She's continuing to work hard and she's willing to do everything except do Illuminati stuff I ain't selling my soul she ain't selling her soul, so you trying to get her to go one of these ditty parties?
Speaker 1:she ain't in nah. But if you're trying to reward hard work and good character and good quality work, then she, I guess she wants that's. That's her message to you, yeah let's go uh, you know priz, you got anything important man for us before we roll up out here.
Speaker 2:It's been a great episode G. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been a lot of fun. This is the Real Top Podcast. We love that Miss Joy came along and joined us on our celestial racket, managed to give us some of that cosmic choir and was able to spew her wisdom to the whole universe. We need stuff like that. We need people to come in and keep it real on this show and we can't thank you enough. Blast off, as always, you're the captain of this ship and you make it happen. Uh, everybody else, uh, thank you so much for tuning in a great episode. Like I said, we're gonna have our information down here and don't hesitate to reach out to us. And uh, yeah, that's all I really got to say about the subject. This was just a great, really great, great episode we're gonna read plan no more.
Speaker 1:Y'all, go look up. We've been taking pictures and videos. Have y'all know that? Did y'all know that we discovered that there's an ocean here now? Did you know that? Did you guys know that we discovered that there's an ocean? We did a soundogram and we was able to detect that there's enough water under here that can cover this whole planet for up to a mile in water in ocean. So, hey, keep tuned. And water and ocean. So hey, keep tuned.
Speaker 1:And we always got 4K videos that we shot. You know what I'm saying On YouTube. Go look it up. That's us. We infiltration. That's all we can tell you. We can't tell you where we at, because you ain't going to be able to get here, no way. So don't give a damn. Somebody will try, somebody, somebody. It's the civilians, the people. Somebody might come get us, people, somebody might come get us, but, uh, anyway, nah, uh, all love. We saw us win the game, uh, but we had a great time. Yes, uh, miss joy again, we are very honored to have you, very blessed that you came on the show and blessed us with your presence and, uh, we hope to have you back here. Thank you, I appreciate it. You know be seeing you soon. Yes, on the red carpet, you know know.
Speaker 3:Speak it, come on, why did?
Speaker 1:I get married for.
Speaker 2:Come on, you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, yeah, come on Ty yeah. Anyway, we thank y'all for tuning in man and once again we appreciate y'all. We broadcasting live from a secret location on Mars. Everybody we out.