Jewels on Mars!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

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unknown 0:44

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Hey guys, guess what? Y'all back broadcasting live from a secret location on Mars, everybody. It's your boy Blast Off, man, with my host, my Ace Bull Coon. Y'all already know the deal. Do we need more introduction at this point? Do you need an introduction at this point, dog?

SPEAKER_02 1:24

No introduction needed. No, our guest does need an introduction. We have a visitor from Venus here. Y'all see it. Y'all see it.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

It's a special time. Very special time. Told you it was coming. Told you it's coming, and it's it's gonna keep coming. But uh, we got the lovely, lovely Miss AKA Two's joy, aka Miss Legor. Welcome to the show, man. Welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Welcome. We're honored to have you.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

I don't have to do it. She can tell you what she does. She's an author and poet and and and uh uh actor, you know. She does it all, man. She's blessed by the best, you know. We thank you for coming on. Most definitely. Thank you for the thing. We thank you for coming on, man. Uh so uh, you know, tell us a little bit, introduce us to the people that don't know you, you know, let them know who you are and what you do and and and um you know what all you got going on at the current moment.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

Okay, well, once again, thanks for the invite. I'm so excited to be here tonight. Um, so just a little bit about myself. One of the biggest things I love to tell people, it doesn't matter what I do, um, it matters if I make an impact. But I am, as far as titles go, I am an author, um, an actress, full-time motivational speaker, and a life and energy healing coach. Um, I have a brand by the name of Choose Joy.

SPEAKER_04 2:54

Come on with it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

Yes, we definitely have to choose joy, right? It's a choice daily. Um, and I like to say that my brand just basically empowers people in a holistic way to choose joy, to choose them, choose their destiny, and do the work that's needed so that they can maximize their potential while they're here.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Love it, absolutely love it. Right on, right on. Stuff like that, extremely important, especially in this year 2024. A lot of chaos, a lot of yeah, divisiveness and everything going on. So it's very important that we have people like you in this world to help give us a guiding light. Very, very important.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Most definitely. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, you you're not originally from Houston, Texas, are you?

SPEAKER_03 3:36

No, I'm not a Estonian. I'm a uh native of Beaumont, Texas, just right up the street.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Right up the street.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

But much smaller. Everybody knows everyone. Um, I've lived all over, lived in Florida, lived in LA, um, I've lived in New York, Baltimore, DC. So, you know, I've been quite a few places, but I am a native of little old Beaumont, Texas.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

So are you into traveling? Do you travel a lot? Do you travel to the city?

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I love traveling. I love traveling. Um, I feel like traveling heals.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

It opens our minds to, you know, things outside of our normal boxes. Um, and it just teaches you that there's a world outside of your everyday life. Absolutely. So it gives you access to, you know, other people's lives and it helps you to see the world in a different way. Right on, right on.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Very important. And I think as we get deeper into the podcast, we'll ask you to kind of call upon some of those experiences that you've had as you've traveled to this whole myriad of places, you know. Stuff like that is very invaluable, and we really appreciate you coming.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

Yeah, no problem.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

So, I mean, um as you you know get into all of these things, how the question is, how did you become who you are today? How did you get into what led you to the path that you are on? You know, to be an actress and author and and and and and you know, poet and excuse me, you know, I'll definitely motivational speaker.

SPEAKER_03 4:58

Pain, trials, tribulations. Um, but on the other side of that, just standing on the shoulders of people that seem the best at me. Yeah. So a lot of mentors, you know, I had a lot of great women that came alongside of me and pushed me into greatness. Right. So community, you know, mentorship, um, and just getting to a place where I wanted something different than what I felt like the world was trying to tell me that I was gonna be in. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

You know, the world will put limitations on it, it will try to hold you back. You know, in this world, you we talk about this all the time. You are ultimately responsible no matter what you go through. Exactly. You know, because it can be, I I said this in another episode, you know, troubles and problems are are like weights on your back.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

But you still gotta keep pressing forward to get to where you gotta get to. Because if you don't, you letting yourself down, and there may be other people that are dependent on you that won't get the help that they need because you are giving up. Correct. So at the end of the day, you know, I I like that the whole premise of who you are and the name, out of no matter what pain you've been through, what you've been through, you choose joy. And that's a wonderful, that's a wonderful segment. And I got to say, you know, uh, y'all know I'm acting will behave today because I've been cursed out. I got manners though, you know what I'm saying? I got manners for the young lady on the show and whatnot, but y'all know I cuss up the storm and then talk out really, but we're still gonna keep it silent and real in here and talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Authentic.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Yeah, but it is. That's why we that's why we're here on the real talk podcast. This is what this is about. But again, we are very blessed and honored to have you on here. And uh, you know, I'm just excited, man. And you know, you know, uh um one thing I will say is that uh um I was I was looking at your your your book standing standing still. You're you wrote a check still standing, and you have a uh co-author in the book. So you have your own segment in the book that you're responsible for uh uh you know authoring, and you put your your two cents into the book. And uh how long did it take you to get to that? Was it hard writing this book? Was it hard um um, you know, coming up with the the the the whole summary scenario, you know, or what did you what what parts of was it just parts of your life or what is this that that you put in there?

SPEAKER_03 7:11

So it wasn't hard. I would say the biggest thing is that because I've been through so much, um, I had it was kind of difficult finding, okay, what do I put in this book and what what is it time for me to release certain things? Okay. Um that was the biggest thing because it's always time and purpose in every season, right?

SPEAKER_04 7:28

Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Um so the biggest thing for me was going to God and saying, like, hey, what do you want me to release for this project? Absolutely. Because I am a co-author and there are other women's stories that are in there. So I wanted to make sure that I matched the vision for the visionary. Um, and so that was the biggest thing for me. But um, the book was an awesome project. It took us a year to finish. And I do believe that whoever and what, you know, whatever woman gets that book is gonna be a reminder to them to just stand. You know, um, you might fall, but get back up, you know, and continue to stand. I think that we give the enemy a lot of power when we let life like knock us down and we don't get back up. We have a thousand excuses for why we can just lay down. Right. But you gotta stand, and it's just what it is. Stand up, you fall, get back up again.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

That's real. You co-authored that book with Cynthia Bailey, right? Yes. Yeah, from uh is that is that uh basketball. Atlanta Housewives.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Yes, but she's known for her modeling. She's a beautiful person, beautiful. She's a she's a um very beautiful spirit. I mean, just very like down to earth. It was like talking to her auntie, you know, um, and just being able to hear, you know, things that she's been through because a lot of times you see people with the makeup on, you know, they're on camera that you think that they have glorious lifestyles, but you don't know what's going on when people turn get off that camera, you know. And so to hear her story and to hear where she is now, you know, um kind of backing away from certain things in the industry and just finding purpose within herself as a woman. Yeah, it was a great experience.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Now, Joy, in writing this book, did you, and maybe you can also speak a little bit for Cynthia, did you guys find that to be kind of like a pressure taken off of you, like uh releasing a burden, was expressing yourself in writing that way. Uh, was that very like therapeutic in a way for you?

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Well, for me as a writer, I can definitely say anytime you put your pain on paper, I do believe that you are releasing that pain. Yeah. Um, you know, and so I enjoy writing because it helps me to be able to release. Um, and I feel that when you put it on paper and you let it go, it kind of helps you to continue to walk into the newness of where you're headed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Big time. We really appreciate that. So we have a whole bunch of questions we were gonna ask you. We're not gonna like stick to them strictly, but there are two key ones that I really did wanna, really did want to touch upon. And uh, so let me just jump into one of them, which is just like, how did you get into the entertainment business? What prompted you to go there?

SPEAKER_03 10:41

So, since a kid, I've always wanted to be an actress. Um, I've always been that kid that got in trouble for talking, um, was always the person that was getting up and speaking for my class, you know. So as a kid, um I loved acting, but then of course, you know, you you finish school and they tell you to go to college, get a degree. Um, and I followed that route, but what I began to find as a young adult was that I wasn't happy in a nine to five corporate, you know, America type of setting.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

Me neither.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

So I prayed about it and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go after my dreams. Um I gave it to God. I asked God to lead me to the right people and the right resources. And I was scrolling through Instagram, and I don't know if you guys are familiar with her. Her name is Josie Thacker. Um, she's real big in the entertainment industry. She was, um, she danced for Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Mary J. Blige. She was on Martin, but she's my acting coach. Okay. Wow. I auditioned to be in her classes because she only takes, you know, a certain amount of people. We've been rocking and rolling for about the last um four years.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

And she has pushed me past what I expected. Wow. That I was gonna take some acting classes, and she made me go deep. So that's how I kind of um, you know, got into the entertainment industry.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

This ties into what you were saying before about how life is really hard. It is really tough, but there are people out there who can help you, they can support you, you can be on the street. Oh, definitely. Yeah, there's shoulders that you can lean on to help you. And I think that's a very key thing for people to remember nowadays is yeah, life is hard, but don't despair. There are other people going through the struggle with you, and there are people who've gone through the struggle before you who can kind of guide you, mentor you, give you a little bit of wisdom on that journey that you call life.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

I mean, okay, so one thing I I want to ask you is how how many films so far have you how how many films have you participated in? Is it countless now since you've been this far? How long? But first of all, how long have you been acting?

SPEAKER_03 12:35

So I actually started, I did a lot of my work was originally like stage plays and on stage performances. But then when COVID came, I was living in like the Baltimore area, and we were actually getting ready for um a Broadway production. And it's Broadway. Yeah. Wow. So it shut everything down. Um and I decided that I was going going to start doing on camera in commercials. Um and so I'm on my fourth commercial and I'm on my fifth film.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

So, and you say we were talking earlier, and you mentioned um we were talking about uh, you know, these different producers and productions. Right. You were you were running it down to me. Can you tell us again? Because I I was I was caught off when you were saying about Tyler Perry having uh he can shoot a film in a what was it a week?

SPEAKER_03 13:24

You said Tyler Perry can shoot a film in a day.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

In a day.

SPEAKER_03 13:27

Yeah. Wow. He he's been known to shoot a film in a day and get it out. He doesn't play. Whereas some people take, you know, months or a year to shoot a film, he has it down to where he can shoot a film. Absolutely he he just continues to go and and I mean he's putting it putting them out there.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

So and and you mentioned because I asked her, I say, well, have you ever worked with him? And you were saying like you were on the way in a in a in a in a in a production thing and COVID hit.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

Yes. So my um acting agent at the time actually got me an audition. They were auditioning for the um TV show Sisters. Uh huh. And Sisters.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Yeah. So did that ever come out?

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah, it's actually out now. Okay. Um, and so I had an audition, and literally, like the week before the audition, COVID was declared a national Tyler.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Come on, man. Come on, bro. Look here, man. Hey, we got another one down here. Come get you, come come out here in Houston to get you some talent, you know. But it's gonna come back full circle. Yeah, it's gonna come back further. It's coming back full circle. Hey, you all give her an audition, man. You owe them one, man. COVID knocked us a lot of us down, man. But yeah, so so uh what would you say your genre? Because I seen it was it I seen the uh I checked out, we checked out, uh we actually put it in a real introduction real putting you on the show. Um when you you was kind of kicking somebody's ass in there, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a throwback movie. Was that one of your first ones?

SPEAKER_03 14:48

That's one of my first ones. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Yeah. So what is your genre of choice if you had to say what are your what do you excel at more? How horror, have you done any horror, romance, comedy, you know?

SPEAKER_03 15:00

So a lot of people say that I'm funny, but I like to think that I'm deep. Um, I prefer drama, but I get more reactions from comedy for some reason. However, as a black actress, I don't like to choose a genre because in the industry they box us into roles that they feel that we're supposed to play. Tight. So yeah. So when people ask me that, I'm like, I'm open to whatever until I'm able to get to a point where I can say, no, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do this. But right now, while I'm growing, it's like, you know, if I'm in a sci-fi, I'm gonna be in a sci-fi. You know, as long as it's not something that makes me compromise my morals and my values.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Absolutely. Absolutely. So you ain't joining the Illuminati.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

No, no, I'm not selling myself.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Hey, you ain't giving it, you ain't you ain't sacrificing nobody to get to the top.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Okay, good, good, good, good. Yeah, but so how do you feel other people can learn from you and your experiences in the industry? What are some advices that you could give to people, you know, going in, being cautious, or being optimistic, or you know, what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_03 16:06

So I say pray about everything. And I mean, I don't want, you know, I don't want to sound righteous when I say that, but whatever your method of seeking the source is, go about that in everything that you do. It's it keeps you grounded. Um, for me, I use discernment in everything. Not every opportunity is an opportunity for you. I think some people um they chase the fame and the money and they're not doing it for the passion. This is something that I put, you know, my tears, my pain, my past into. That's how I'm able to constantly heal and evolve. So I think that just knowing what your why is, why are you doing what you're doing? Why? You know, because you might get some opportunities that you're not making, you know, $30,040,000 from. So just keeping a humble mindset, working hard, you have to put the work into it. Um, and just remembering that I carry myself every day as if I'm already the person that I look up to, which is Viola Davis. I carry myself like a Viola Davis. I love her. I feel like, I mean, she can play any role.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

That's the one from uh You better know Viola. Wait, hold up, wait, wait, wait. Uh something about the murder, murder, yeah. How to get away with murder. Yeah, yeah, I know violas.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Yes, you know, but I carry myself to that level. Um, you know, because I feel like you're always representing yourself as, you know, an artist, whether you sing, dance, write, actor, or actress. So just keeping that in mind. Stay connected to the source, stay positive, keep working at it. Every no that you get, you're eventually gonna get a yes. And in the industry, you get a lot of no's.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

You know, people are scared of rejection. People are scared to, hey, one door closed, you keep knocking. Just keep on knocking.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

And create opportunities for yourself. You know, nowadays we have social media where you can create whatever type of, you know, person that you want to be when it comes to being in the industry. So if you if you're a singer, get on social media and sing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Yeah, let your talent shine. Yeah, let your talent shine. These social media platforms do give you the exposure that these platforms already have 20 years ago. At all. You had to be a singing in a juke joint and drawing in, you know, uh crowds or recording audio or whatever back in the day. You know, you know how it was.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

But I would imagine it is kind of like it could be kind of difficult because you know, you always go in and you know, you might get yes, you probably get a no or whatever. But then when something like COVID comes and takes away big opportunities, isn't that a little demoralizing? Don't you feel like how do you navigate stuff like that? Like when something that just completely out of the blue comes in and takes away a big opportunity for you.

SPEAKER_03 18:36

So I think that for me, I struggled with it almost to the point where I feel like I let depression sink in for a while. Um COVID was it done a number, especially for me. You know, I lost a sibling and a parent during um COVID. Oh. And then major opportunities that I had for my acting, for speaking, um, I was supposed to travel outside of the country during the time of COVID for a big conference for speakers. And all of those opportunities were taken, um, you know, taken from me. But I think that one of the things that I've had to realize lately is that that was a setback for a major comeback. So I know that during COVID, okay, I lost these opportunities. I lost people that were close to me, but I learned so much during that season two about rest, about mental health, about just being able to be with self. I think a lot of times we have all these goals to keep ourselves busy, right? So COVID made me look at at self. Are you ready to be a big star? Are you ready for the big opportunities that are coming? You know, it's just character development, things that we normally don't have time to sit around and think about. I had those times to think about, which has kind of helped me come up with a routine for like self-care. Sure. You know?

SPEAKER_02 19:46

So yeah, we touched on a lot of stuff, especially stuff that I'd written about uh as questions. I'm really glad because we didn't even have to ask you those questions. You really answered them yourself. Uh let me ask you this though. What does your ideal career path kind of look like for you?

SPEAKER_03 20:02

First of all, not to have a nine to five, okay? Yeah, because I feel like without a nine of five, then you can have ultimate freedom. Yeah. So for me, it's being able to um be one of the number one life coaches in the world. I really want to help transform communities and people's um lives. I want to see people living their true authentic selves. Um, of course, you know, I want the big roles. I want to be able to write and produce as well. And once again, traveling is my number one um love. So for me, I want to be able to host um therapeutic travel retreats for people. So we get together, we go to you know, an island somewhere where it's beautiful water, and we block out the world and we heal.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

I want to talk about that a little bit, tap on you, because I love to travel as well. Uh what have you traveled? Do you travel domestically, internationally?

SPEAKER_03 20:51

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:52

So what what are some of your places you've been? Have you are you have you been, and what what do you think about it? What's your favorite place?

SPEAKER_03 20:58

I think my favorite place would be Costa Rica. Nice. It was so refreshing. I've never been to I'm a monkey person, so just being in the jungle with the monkeys, being able to pet them. But I've I mean, I've been, of course, Cabo, Cancun, you know, the different parts of Mexico because we're right here. Um, Canada, I've been to Jamaica, um, Honduras. So just different places like that. But Costa Rica was definitely my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

They got black people all over, Honduras and all of that. All over. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Deep, rich, dark skin. Yeah, all over.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Stay with it. Man, you get out. You know what? Uh, and I try to tell my kids, you know, hey, look, man, it's a big world. Don't get your don't get don't be having kids early.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Don't be, you know, going to jail, fucking up, you know, all of that. Don't bruh, if you all you gotta do is travel, it's a big world. You're gonna, your destiny might be somewhere else. A lot of times when these people be taking their kids to travel and stuff like that, that's early on at a young age. Because a lot of us, and and let's be honest, in the black community, we don't have it the resources or or us, a lot of us didn't grow up in my generation, didn't grow up with the resources to where your mom with two or three kids, four kids, single mom or whatever can take you and travel and show you other things to where your mind opened up the way you want to desire that and go get that.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

Parents nowadays have the resources, but I also feel like it's about what's important because if you can spend five, six hundred to a thousand dollars on a birthday party, you could take the child on a trip.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

They take they doing these proms like. Yeah, like it's a wedding.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Yeah, like a wedding.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

The Latino, the Mexicans, they do Ken City. I was talking to one of the day, them Ken Sinettas, they spend 15 to 20,000 on Kensinettas. For real? Bruh, yes, sir. They don't pay for the weddings. They say I I remember like, man, we gonna go hard on the weddings. But the Kints and Yetters, them becoming in the womanhood, they'll spend that money. You know, y'all, y'all put in the comments if I'm wrong. Y'all let me know how they go. But I know for sure that uh we we tend to go all out at a young age.

SPEAKER_03 22:58

Yeah. You know? And I don't believe in buying kids gifts. You know, my thing is give your child travel. Take your child to see things, let them taste, you know, different foods. You know, expand them to different cultures, different languages. Um because those are the kids that you see that go off and you know, they become out.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

Worldly. Yeah. Worldly. Not locally. And the thing is, I remember every trip that my parents took me on. See? I don't remember half. I don't remember 90% of the gifts that they gave me. All love and respect to them. Thank you very much. But the stuff that stuck with me were the experiences. The experiences, right. Remember where you went.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

Seattle was my first, my first time I ever flew that I remember flying to Seattle, Washington. Loved it there. I'll never forget that trip. I'll never forget the foods I ate. I'll never forget how the streets looked. I'll never forget the sites and places that we went. I can't remember. I can't remember what I got for my birthday that year.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Seattle's one of the nicest cities. Yeah, Seattle is beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

It really is.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

It rains a lot, but yeah, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

The mountains are beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

The mountains are beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

But lush, beautiful land.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

You know, just going back, these kids, you know, a lot of this stuff that they spend money on, like you were mentioning, you know, these, these, these proms and stuff like that, where they're going out renting Rolls Royces and they getting the the Louis Vuitton tuxes or whatever they got nowadays. I don't know. I ain't had one, so I don't know. But tell me this: do you think that all of this would have been as extreme as it is now, like without social media? Because I think a lot of people gotta do it for social media. You've got to do that.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

We have such a driven world now that everybody needs to be validated on social media. And I think that it just comes from a lot of voids that people have on the inside. Uh, social media, I mean, don't get me wrong, it can be a beautiful thing, right? We've seen a lot of people be blessed through social media, get opportunities through social media. But if you are somebody that does not have an identity, it can destroy you. And so I do think that a lot of people are taking things like prom to the next level because they see, okay, this person's child, you know, pulled up in the Bentley. So I gotta go even harder so that I can get just as many likes as she got with her child. Yeah. And it just becomes one big competition.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

And and you know one thing that's rampant in the black community? We're gonna talk about, we're gonna focus on what we know. Showboating and living above your means, but ain't coming together. We all know this. We all talk about these in our homes. Right. How we can see another group of cultures, races. They can get four, five in the house, and everybody's gonna contribute, and then they'll buy another house, so then the four split the two, two in this house, two in this house, then they they put a block. They'll put in. They've got a block. But we gotta have the finest and the and the and the and the and the and the biggest and uh tastest, whatever wouldn't have. We gotta we gotta do that a lot. Black people are let's be honest, we we we tend to live outside of our means and make bad business choices more than any other culture. But you know, however we got to that point, we did, but I do see us coming out of that. I ain't gonna lie, I feel as though today's age we're getting smarter and smarter, and we're right, we are where we're making more awareness of, we do have more awareness of what other people are doing and what what is holding us back as a people. Do in no small part the people like you, Joy. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

I mean, I think the thing is just like like you said, awareness, right? Yeah. So if I learn some information, I'm responsible for coming back to my community and giving my community that information. And I mean, it's like the old people say, you know, you can lead a horse to the water, but that horse has to be able to drink the water. You want to teach a man how to fish so that they can eat forever, right? Um, I think what happens with us as a community, and we are getting better at it, is that we learn the information and we don't come back.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:01

And so that's always been a big thing for me. I've always said that no matter what I do, I will always come back for the people that people feel like you shouldn't come back for.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Right, right, right, right, right. I mean, all those are great points, and it just points to the fact that, you know, in today's climate, um, there's no excuse uh for us not to you know not progress as a people. We already know what the problem is. We identified the problem. We can be aware, we just have to have a sense of community. Now, you gotta develop a sense of community. Like, and then when I say community, I mean when you see a person that needs help or your family member needs help or this and that, you don't rush your kids to put them out when they turn 18. Exactly. A lot of a lot of us are good at that in our community. When you get 18, especially if you ain't in school or something, you ain't going to college. Oh. You gotta go. You gotta get you a job and get up. I'm tired, I ain't gotta feed you no more.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Let's go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

And and a lot of times, I don't see other cultures do that. They don't you they don't push them out immediately as soon as they sprout their wings. Damn, can I build muscles in them first?

SPEAKER_03 28:20

And a lot of times other cultures don't force their children to pay bills, you know, until they're until they have finished school. Um, but you know, you're 16, 17. Hopefully, by the time you are an adult, you don't have stuff already in your name, you know. But it we are just forced into the world a little bit harder than other cultures force their children into the world. Right.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

I worry about though a future in which the cost of living is so high that it's just a survival mechanism for everybody. You gotta push your kids out of the house because you can't afford for them to be there. How do we address stuff like that? Man, how do we how do we dive into stuff like that? Rising cost of living, rising cost of products and services. Like, I understand why parents do it. I agree with you guys how it should be, but I understand why a lot of people do that. Yeah, you as niggas are.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

But we're we're kind of like the only people doing it though. And I think that it goes back to the need that we as African Americans have. So sometimes we live above above our means. So you see other cultures, they're not walking around with all their money on their body, right? They're not walking around with a $3,000 purse, but then you're in the negative in your bank account. Um, you know, they're gonna have the big chunky tennis shoes on that we teach our children not to like because it doesn't have a label on it. So I think it goes back to going back to the basics of how do we live. If I know that I have a child, you know, I'm gonna instill in my child, like, hey, it's nice to have a pair of Jordans, but if we can't afford it, you know, what's in your mind is more important than what's on your body. Right on. And so I think just getting back to those basics, but then also community. We don't have a lot of areas where we pull on one another for resources. You know, back in the day you used to be able to go to the barber and you had your neighborhood barber that everybody went to. You had your neighborhood, you know, beautician. Nowadays, everything is so divided.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Yeah. Competition. Competition, yeah. Competition, you know, it's too much competition and not cooperation. I said that in an episode a couple of days.

SPEAKER_02 30:19

To an area like Houston, spread out, lots of black people, everybody, lots of communities, everybody in competition, everybody in competition. You don't, I I might know people in my city, but I don't know people on the south side. Right. I might know people on the north side, but I don't know people on the west side. You know, let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

The smartest of us, you won't even know they got money. I'm gonna tell you. One of my mentors, my best friends at the time, was a millionaire. And this brother walked around with holes in his socks, driving a Nissan Versa. You know, Helm Kemp. Wasn't braided, he braided loose. But hey, he wanna go to that. He went to the I remember he told me when that that it was a Jaguar that came out in 09. It it was it was real sporty. I I think it was Jaguar XJSM, I don't remember. But he told me he went in there as regular self, went in the dealership, and uh the dealers was ignoring him. You know, they thought he didn't have it. Brother came over there. Man, how can I help you? I'm trying to get this Jag, drop 60 cash on the table. While the other guys was like, oh, you know, because they get a crap when you drop cash, oh, that's crazy commission.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

So the ones, like you were mentioning, we ain't gotta have they ain't walking around with the chains on, the diamond necklaces on, sitting on front row. Because you got people that ain't got it like the rappers. Yeah, they still want to come like the rappers, though. Yeah, but they want to go spend that 50,000, that 20,000.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

I like that you just mentioned the rappers. J. Cole just did that. He went into uh a Tesla joint. And you know, J. Cole, very low-key. I've seen that. Very low-key. He walks in, just chill. J. Cole, one of the most famous people on the forum. Yeah. And they ignored him, ignored him. Yeah. Not knowing that he comes in there, he probably has more money than every single person in there. Can cash you out. He can cash you out.

SPEAKER_01 32:16

Wow. I seen that video. I seen it. I know a lot of y'all say that. Check that out. Judging the book. But those are the ones.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Don't judge a book by their cover. Really, probably be honest with you. The smartest ones are walking around. Because, hey, when you got real money, you don't have to wear it on your outside. You don't have to have it on your outside. When you got real money, yeah. Jeff Bezos money. You don't have to wear it on your out exterior. When have I seen Jeff Bezos walking around with a hundred thousand dollar chain on? Never.

SPEAKER_02 32:53

Ever.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Go inside that man's house, though. I guarantee you. Or Zuckerberg. I guarantee you that brother got shit, technology TVs, hologram TV, and said, we ain't even seen you. It ain't used to the public. They got robots probably walking around like Robocop serving you. How can I help you today? You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you. Hey man, when you got real money, you don't have to wear it on your outside. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

But also, you probably don't want to wear it on your outside.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

And we say, and we saying all this here to try to put in a message of we as a people gotta stop show voting for what what do I need a $10,000 chain for, but I ain't got no fucking mortgage.

SPEAKER_03 33:35

Or life insurance.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Or life insurance. I ain't got no mortgage. Yeah. I'm paying a car note, but I just went to cop the $10,000 out of $10. That don't make sense.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

It don't make sense. I could have put this $10,000 and paid off this this car.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 33:52

But the mentality. It's a mentality.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

Follow the crowd. A lot of us as black people tend to follow the crowd.

SPEAKER_02 34:01

So let's dive into why that is, though. I feel like black people have been have had the capitalist boot on their neck for so long that they want to, now that they have resources, they want to stunt. They want to shine a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

But but but but they want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

I'm not saying that it's right, but I'm saying there's a reason for why that is. Yeah, yeah. When you live in poverty, you don't always want to feel poor.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

The thing I want to say to that is black people have always stunted, bro. Yeah. We've always stunted.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

All the way back.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

All the way back. We've always stunted. And you know what? Pimp C said it best, man. Man, we come from gold and gold chains and this and that back. Royalty in days when we, you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

Royalty.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Royal. We come from that. You know what I'm saying? So it's in the DNA. You have to be royalty to be royalty.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Yeah, it's in my DNA to shine, but I gotta look at the environment I'm in right now. I'm not in the environment where I need to be shining right now.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

I'm on Fifth Ave and Collins in Philadelphia. And I don't got no house. I'm selling this dope. I don't need to have my biggest chains on before I can set myself up as a target.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. You gotta come with your brain now. That's what we gotta start thinking as a people. But I ain't trying to look, you know what? Like I said in one episode before, people to think you think you're better than them or think you're trying to think you know it all.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

No, man.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

We gotta go down a different path. You know what I'm saying? We can't keep doing the same thing, expecting the same results. They call it a certain term if you try to do that.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

Boom.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

A fool, insane.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Insanity.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

You see what I'm saying? So we we we hey, you know, we we're just keeping it real, y'all. It's real talk. You know, this is what we do here, this is what we're about, and and and and and and and at a certain point in time, you have to understand that you are your own worst enemy. So if you sit up with all this and this and this, but you got the main things not taken care of, it's foolish. You're a fool.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

It's foolish.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

God says that a fool and his funds will soon depart. Yeah, it's written down. It's it's already written down, it's already thousands of years worth of knowledge, and a lot of us are starting to get away from that. You see what I'm saying? We are it's basic instruction, it's some things that you can tap into the word or whatever your choice of knowledge is. Whatever you, I'm pretty sure a lot of you, Confucius or Buddha or whoever, they tell you to have the golden rule. It's all about all of them connect to the golden rule. The golden rule. You know. You believe in what you believe in, I believe what I believe in. Hey, that's fine. I ain't trying to tell you what to do, what to believe. I ain't trying to stop you because this is a free world. Because in the end of the day, y'all don't realize we all serve the same person. You just call them different terms. Yeah, you just try to serve them a different way. So you want to kill me because I don't want to lay down and pray this direction 10 times a day. I serve them in my way. God ain't tell you to serve them in a certain way.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. You can't who is man to dictate the rules for God? How you or to dictate the rules or the way? Who is man to lead you to God? You can give me good advice and just say, hey, look, you find your own way to them, but you find your way to them.

SPEAKER_03 37:21

And the thing about it is we're all figuring it out, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:25

So we judge one another about the source, about God, and how we connect with God or the source, but none of us, you know, we're all trying to figure it out for ourselves. And I think that's been the biggest thing for me when it comes to religion that I had to learn. Um, because at one point I was super heavy into the church. And um, you know, just felt a lot of combination about a lot of things from people that, you know, I consider to be God's chosen or people that were leaders over my spiritual life. And so I had to start to realize, like, hey, when they leave from this church, they're human just like me. They're trying to figure it out just like I am. And it gave me a lot of freedom, you know, not feeling so bound by their expectations or by their opinion of me and my life, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

So right on. I think another big thing, though, that we also have to address, especially in relationship to stunting and social media, is sex. And is the relationship between men and women and wanting to impress each other and how that comes in to getting certain things, buying certain things. You want the fast car because you really want the girl over there.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

Wrong, wrong, wrong. That's that's it's the wrong mentality to have. That's the foundation of a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 38:42

This is also the message that we be pushing through the rap music, through the movies, through the sports. A life of luxury will get you the man or woman or men or women of your dream.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

I think the luxury part is more for men. I think men are more the the bigger your assets look, it's more attractive to women. Because women can get a lot of assets and it's not as the same effect on a man. A lot of not it, it can be.

SPEAKER_03 39:13

It's transactional. So as a woman, I look good because you have the nice things. There you go. So I it's a transaction. I give you what you want, you give me what I want.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

There you go. There you go. Transaction. That's why men are some of the simplest creatures to please. If a woman knows to please them, right? But there's no real relationship though. Yeah, yeah. So we're transactional.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Transactional generation, a transactional world, but we don't even know each other. We're married, we're together, we're in a relationship, we have children together, but I don't even know the most inner parts of you.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Because you didn't get with him because you wanted to know his brain. You got with him because of what he was pulling up in.

SPEAKER_03 39:46

And you got with me because I was looking good. And it was now we're here.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

She had them hips, that waist, that face, and that made me want to get a taste. That's all it's about. You see what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, it ain't gonna change because now, if you look on social media, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you a story about read when I was 17 years old. But today's world, do you don't notice what's going on? You gotta pay attention. They're pitting, and and and people are going with it. Y'all know about the same. They pitting the black man, and I'm not, and I, hey, I'm not racist. I hey, love who you love or whatever, but I'm they are, I don't see this in other cultures. When they vocally disrespecting each other, they pitting the black man and the black woman against each other right nowadays. The plan. I read a plan the other day, and it made me question. I I remember when I was 17 years old, I'm gonna tell y'all something. We keeping it real here. We just talking. Hey, don't disrespect anybody. Listen, I love all of y'all. I just never forget remembering. Let me tell y'all something. I cannot remember the art. But I'm always, I've always been, my mom would tell you, Darryl was uh uh uh uh uh uh he was weird. He would be reading politics and this and that when he was younger, and and everybody be out there watching cartoon stuff. He'd be watching CNN. Oh, he'll be watching the food. Never I love to cook, I love to eat. Um, but I never forget. I was I was at my grandmother's house one time. And I looked on the this when the internet first came out. Y'all remember? Who remember when you used to get online and you try to connect to the internet, you get that doo-doo-doo, that motherfucker dial up.com. That motherfucker dial up. But I I remember, I remember um, you know, reading this article about they were gonna, it wasn't gonna be a uh uh uh uh uh uh uh a beef between the black and white in the future. They don't want that. They want a beef between the black and black and the brown colorism and this and that. So now look what's going on. Look at Drake. Look at uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh these people that are black. Now they now they got now they got to do you know they got to where they now saying Africans and Caribbeans aren't black. They arguing about that. They not black Americans, they not black. We black. They arguing about blackness. Wow. You don't go, okay, black people, let's go to black people other cultures too. We don't go to Czechoslovakia, that's that's that's a checklist, that's not a white guy. That's a check. You're gonna say that's a white guy, he's still white, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And a white American ain't gonna go to Czechoslovakia, you're not white. They're not gonna say that. Yeah, they're not gonna go to uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Switzerland, you're not white. They're not gonna do that. You're white, they're gonna look at them like the epitome of white. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? So we they it's you you the the game, I said this before, is divide and conquer. You get them divided first. Now you got segments of the same fucking race arguing about who's black. Oh, I'm not black, I'm Dominican, and I'm yeah, you looking like Wesley Snipes talking about I'm Dominican. You black motherfucker, excuse my language, fuck that. But you looking at Wesley Snipes talking about I'm not black, I I no black. I Cuban. You know, man, look, man, we yeah, we know your your your your your country, your culture. Excuse my language. I get excited, I get I get it. Oh no, you okay, you're keeping it real, but we got to stop that because let me tell you something. And I'm not trying to insult anybody by saying these facts. But from my understanding, the Caucasian population is declining. No, uh first of all, all of our populations are declining now. If you look at the charts, we all decline. Look at the charts, we all decline. Ain't no surpluses of births. It's too much abortion, it's too much uh unhealthy foods. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, too much sickness around the world now.

SPEAKER_03 43:56

Cancer.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

You see what I'm saying? So there is no way that we should be in argument with each other. Nobody should be anywhere. I'm I'm firm believing love everybody and treat everybody. And and and one more thing. I'm I, you know, in this country, you got all these white supremacists coming up and whatnot, right? This is you came to a country that was never ever originally white. You may have came and colonized it and had the power. Come on now, come on, but it was never originally you. It wasn't yours, but now your power structure is threatened because now you have uh you got people that's running for president bot probably gonna may win. You know, I'm whether they do or not, I don't know. I don't know, but you have things going on and a female at that that may change and change the structure of the power source. But you're in a melting pot country. You want to make a pot of gumbo, but then but you use the okra in the gumbo, but we gotta take the strip. But you jumped in this big old pot of gumbo with roux, with with okra, excuse me, with sausages and chicken and shit. You won't try to take everybody else out. But you jumped in this big old pot of something else.

SPEAKER_03 45:11

It's not gonna work. So do you think they'll be able to handle having a woman president? Like, do you feel that the world? Let me say, do you feel like America is ready for a black? You know what?

SPEAKER_01 45:24

And I won't ask you about that. Yeah. Because it's been debate. And I think I'm gonna tell you my honest opinion, but it's been debate that she ain't black. She don't consider black until she can use you. And so I don't know if you've heard that, but if you've been in tapped with social media.

SPEAKER_03 45:38

I have, I've heard it's like.

SPEAKER_01 45:39

They're arguing like you ain't black until you're trying to use black people. You wasn't putting hot sauce on your greens on TV until you had to put the, you wasn't washing greens in no bathtub, like you said.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

Well, I mean, and then when people start to say stuff like that, it bothers me because as a black woman, you know, you're raised to rise above what someone expects for you to be as a black woman. So when you start getting to these environments where you're dealing with, you know, a lot of white people, you know, with power, who doesn't change something about themselves? You know, we straighten our hair, you know, we add extensions to it. It's not a lot of people that are at that level that's walking around with an afro saying black power.

SPEAKER_04 46:19

Right.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

So when we judge her, it's like, well, what are you doing when you go to work? You know, you're dressing the way they tell you to dress. You know, you're bringing, you're making yourself fit into their bubble for your purpose. And I feel like when you look at her, that's what she's done. She did.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

That's the only way she could even stay in office. I'm gonna tell you this. But I'm gonna tell you this. I think the lady knows she's black in some form of fashion. She don't, but she's not pure black. So why would she?

SPEAKER_03 46:45

A bubble wasn't pure black.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

But why do you have to own up just because you're not pure black? You don't have to say, I'm black, I'm black, you're not pure black. Who cares? Who cares?

SPEAKER_03 46:53

Who cares? How many of us are pure black black?

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Exactly. But but then it comes down to the question of the one drop rule.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

The one percent nigga, you a nigga? One percent nigga, you a nigga. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:04

Okay, so then that is so deeply entrenched in our culture that if you have somebody who is a little bit black, of course they're gonna say, Oh yeah, oh, oh, now it is convenient for me.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

But I'm but I'm I'm gonna tell you something though. You gotta look at, you know, again, going back to what I said. So this is where the struggle comes in for me at. You know that there are supremacists that are smart. They play chess. They may even give you an apple with a razor in it, but they'll put out their, you know, she ain't black. She wasn't pretending to be black until it's time to run for prison. But the lady went to Hollow, the lady was in the AKA. You can't be an AK unless you were sister. Correct me if I'm wrong. No, that's that's true. That's true. The nine, they call it the nine. They got a nine, they got the deltas, the stigmas.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

Now there are white people that are trying to break those stigmas because they feel like if we can be in their sororities and for table.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

So they so they do have them join them. So they do have them. But see, that's what we will let them in. We will let them in.

SPEAKER_03 48:02

Yeah, we always let them in because we want them to want to sit at our table. Yeah. We want them to sit in. So that's how we are.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Yeah. We're but and so my only thing is is she experienced enough? You know, does she have the experience? Does she have the experience? I know she sat under Joe for four years under policy, you know. But don't be don't be mistaken. Oh, they won't go fight. You think it was someone Joe won. Let a woman beat old Don.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

But you have a lot of you have a lot of black people that don't want to see her in office. Um especially a lot of black men.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:37

I mean, you know, some some black men, they they're not white, but they could be supremacists when it comes to, you know, the gender roles. Yeah. And there are a lot of black men that feel like a woman shouldn't run, you know, this country, even though.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

You know what? I'm gonna confess.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

Yeah. You know what I said.

SPEAKER_01 48:55

I I and I'm strongest. I I'm just a man. Yeah. And so, you know, I can't lie. I did say on the episode, y'all, y'all call me because y'all, you know, these motherfuckers, they'll go on social media and twist up words too. They not only can they go back and pull something you said, they can pull something you said and make you say something else. Yeah. Oh, I seen it done, I seen it done. But I did say that I would like the strongest leave me. I don't necessarily, I but but but you gotta look at the alternatives too, man. I gotta sit back and look. Who do I I don't know. Because, okay, let me tell you something. In today's world, this is how black men think. Because I'm out there. Especially like them passport bros. What do they think, brother? What do they think? Who but first of all, we got we men as a general, the black men, y'all tell me if I'm wrong. We feel like we got enemies everywhere. We st we feel like the the sisters can be our enemies, and we definitely know the white man can be your enemy. So we stuck in the middle of well, they so hurt because child support, or they so hurt because they've been slighted by a woman that don't seem to have logic, but want to use her rule with emotion, and she knows you're doing right by this kid, but she still wanna make it like you ain't, and she's still holding them back. So you when you say black men, you're right because they've been so slighted by the sister. So when they get in power, they scared of, well, damn. They gonna just turn it up on me.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

But we're we're the ones, we're the ones that are really running this world. Black women run this world. Women, period. But black women, there's a power in the world. They're the most educated. I say that they're the most educated in the world. There's a power that we have that no one else, I don't care what other race a woman, just don't have.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

And they have to come up through obstacles that other that nobody else in the world has to come up through. They're a double minority.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

You have a black woman that gives birth to a black man that grows up to say, I don't think that a woman can run this country.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

I'm gonna tell you something, though. The cure for that is to keep the you first of all, but look at the black woman a lot of times. What the early, the younger black women like. The younger black women don't want the good guy that's gonna, a lot of them, unless you raise right. I'm gonna be honest, if you grew up like most of us did in single-parent households, your examples are who you see coming in and out the house or streets or whatever. And then we as black men have to step up too. You gotta treat these women with respect. But see, everything is sexual, and it's just gonna be harder. Let's be honest. It's not back in the 60s and 50s, they were more together.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:32

They were more together.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

And I think another thing for black men with you know her becoming president is her history when she was an attorney.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

Yes, locking a bunch of them up, laughing about certain charges when, when, when, when she did the same things to, you know.

SPEAKER_03 51:46

I mean, but then we have to take accountability too, because she locked you up, but you did the crime.

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Um, well, there was one case. Hold up, sister. There was one case where this brother didn't do the crime, and evidence was gonna exonerate him from death row. And she was finna have a brother executed. But because the governor of California stepped in and said, no, let's see his evidence. The brother was spared his life. That's an ugly situation. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 52:15

But then on the other hand, on the flip side.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

She made a mistake, though. She made a mistake.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

On the flip side, could have caused me. We have another option that's basically saying that he's gonna turn America white again.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

So it's like And you know what he tricked, you know what, you know what his his thing is? I don't, you know what? You you you you may, you may So let me that's the uncertainty. Let me ask a very hard question. That's the uncertainty.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Let me ask you a very, very hard question for both of you. Would you rather, as black people in this country, I know where you're going, but go ahead. Would you rather be screwed over by a white man or would you rather be screwed over by a black woman?

SPEAKER_01 52:50

I'd rather be screwed over by a black woman. Because at least I know I ain't gonna be uh, it ain't by my color. You just don't like me. Miss Joy.

SPEAKER_03 52:59

I would definitely rather be screwed over.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Because you just ain't said it yet. You might try to get it. She ain't said it yet. Come on, Ray. But screwed over how? The screwover would be different. The screw would be different. Policies, politics, the screwover, all of that shit.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

The screw over would be different. When it comes down to it, would you rather be like that?

SPEAKER_03 53:18

The screwover is gonna be different by a black man by a white man. Yeah. It's gonna be different. Um I But would you rather? I would rather be screwed over by a white man. Than a black woman. And I can understand.

SPEAKER_01 53:29

But explain that. Explain that. I can say that because And what does the screw over look over look like for a black person? You as a white man screw. How would a white man screw a black person versus how would a black woman screw up?

SPEAKER_03 53:39

Because you know what, you know what to expect from a white man. The the games that they played, the screwovers, it's it's history repeating itself.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

But what if you have a a white man that looks at you like a Hitler looked at the Jews? And you are just a scourge on the planet. All they do is see you fighting, all they do is see you pregnant, all they do is see you shaking your shaking your ass. So we're talking about American president. So what if they want president come along and say, you know what, we'll be better without this distraction on our children? And then they're trying to race mix, trying to promote race, racial, interracial mixing and stuff. What if they came out and you're the Jew now? You as the 13 million, the the one of the smaller uh minority groups or the more threatening minority groups in America, what if you became the Jew? Would the black woman send you to the gas chamber? Or the discount, they ain't got that no more. They would have a disintegration chamber. You step in, you turn the dust. They got some shit now. You step in there, they just gotta sweep your ass up out of that motherfucker. So just be honest, you think about that? You think about that? Because something's coming.

SPEAKER_03 54:46

Oh, yeah, something's coming. You can feel something's coming. You can feel it. If you have any level of spiritual discernment, oh, it's a heaviness. Something is coming.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Something is coming.

SPEAKER_03 54:55

And I feel that it's gonna come from either side. And that's what I think. You know, it's a matter, yeah, it's a matter of.

SPEAKER_01 55:01

Do you want to be swept up or do you want to be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03 55:04

Because from that side, we don't really know what to expect. We know what to expect from this clown. I mean, he has made it loud and clear. He's made it loud and clear how he's well you well, you can prepare yourself. Let me say that. We've already had him for four years before. And he's very loud and adamant about who he is, his stance, what he believes. So as a people, we can take what he's telling us and prepare ourselves. On the other hand, we don't know what this person is gonna do and how they're gonna do it. So it's like being snuck and you didn't know it was coming.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

So let me ask the other the other version. Would you rather be blessed by a white man or blessed by a black woman? As a black man. From a presidential standpoint.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

As a black man.

SPEAKER_02 55:50

As a black man, as black people are.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

I'm getting blessed by the white man or I'm getting blessed by the black woman.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

Yeah. Which would you rather have?

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Who do I think will bless me as a black man more?

SPEAKER_02 55:59

Which would be blessed.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

I think that the white man would bless a black man more than a white, a black woman would bless a black man because the blessings would be different again. When we talk about blessings, that means now they're doing something nice for you. What's nice for a man to another man? If a white man is blessing you, it's gonna be more likely a blessing that men can like. You're talking about me as a man, or you're talking about me as a people. What are we talking about here? Us as a people. As a people. Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:25

As a people, uh do you feel like a white man is gonna prioritize the blessings of the black community throughout the United States?

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Well, you're saying us, oh, you're saying us as a black people, us as a people of the nation.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

So for that, I would have to say a black woman. Because I feel like a black woman knows what blessings her community needs. But then it goes back to the level of black. You know.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

Now let me ask you this, Joy.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

What?

SPEAKER_01 56:49

Do you agree? Because this is what I'm a I can present some statistics to you. Okay. Do you believe that are you one of the inks that believe that women don't rule with their logical thinking? And men think with their logic. Women are gonna rule with their emotions, and men are gonna use their brains more of the time, their logic, like the assessments of history and this. Right brain, left brain. You know, make choices in life. And and and and what do you think? I wanna hear, I wanna hear you, you uh do you think men are more like do you are you one of the ones that believe that men are more likely to be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03 57:29

Nowadays, men are sassy. So it's really hard to, you know, I feel like there are more women are tougher nowadays. We think we we have come a long way from our emotions. Whereas now you have men that are reacting and doing things more out of their emotions than the women are. So I really feel that the roles have reversed. Um, and I think that it's just time for a woman leader.

SPEAKER_01 57:51

But that's but and so I have to say that's not true. I wouldn't say it's just more exposed. It's just putting in front of street. I don't know that many sassy men. And I don't think sassy. But the world will put sassy men out in front. This world is run.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

I wouldn't say that that the roles have been reversed, but I do think that they've kind of like come closer to a middle ground.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

Yeah. Oh, big time. Big time.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

It's just the people that are in power. The people that are in power are using two things now: using logic and emotion. And so if you're combining a man with a woman, you're gonna be in touch with both sides even more. So. But when you're playing, and so, and so in certain ways, it can help you when it comes to empathy and stuff like that. But when it comes to playing chess, what's what ain't no fucking emotion in chess? Tell me.

SPEAKER_03 58:46

Tell me. So you really don't think a woman can run the can run the country.

SPEAKER_01 58:49

Let's be real. I don't know. I'm I I give him a chance. Well, put it this way. This ain't never been done.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

I mean, I mean, a man has a man has been running this country for how long. I don't say I don't say. A man has been running the country for how long? The whole entire time. Exactly. And look where we are.

SPEAKER_01 59:09

Look where we are. Look where we are. We are the greatest nation in the world. Are we? We we have been. We have we gotta honest. So we have a question. Let me ask his question.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Let me ask his question a different way.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:23

Is the system set up for a woman to become president? That's a different question. I mean, it it's the same question, but a different way. Is this country set up in a way that uh that it would be that it would I I don't know, like was the country set up for a black man to become president?

SPEAKER_01 59:45

No, because because it means for two terms. We don't have, but but it wasn't set up for him. They bushed at him and he couldn't barely pass anything. And now it seems like the Republicans get anything they want no matter who's in prison, uh, who's who's in power. They passing laws, putting it's like why they pushing this. How is this how are they able to push this? Why did it seem like the Democrats never pushed stuff? But maybe they say they pushed it with some of the things that did get opassed by Obama. But the things that all I'm saying is I I think that let's just give them a chance. But I'm gonna tell you like this here from my experience and from just looking at the one, when you look at a resume, even in listen, y'all, when you get in relationships, we're gonna touch on relationships in a second. But you gotta, and I I you gotta look at a person's resume. What's their history? What's their history? So that's what men are worried about. She hasn't shown the competence of when she had power of using her power to the best of her ability. She made emotional choices. Why are you holding evidence from this man that could save his life?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:54

And then I think we have to remember too, she's just one piece of the chess game that you're talking about. So, you know, a lot of times we get fixated on who's our president, but we're now looking at the people that are actually making the laws and passing them. No, yeah, yeah. She's one of the people. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Congress. Congress.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

That's what I'm saying. Like, see, like Republicans got stuff moved still now. Like, look at that. And I think that was the point of our last episode. Democrats are in power, but there's still total bans on abortion now. Well, not what I'm not for or against, it don't matter. You I feel like, like I say, it's not your body. I'm one of these people who believe, hey, as long as you're not, excuse me. I see that's how I got it. As long as you're not infringing on my rights personal, you're doing something that. So if you want to stab yourself a thousand times, I'm not finna outlaw you. Yeah. You might die and you're gonna kill yourself. Whatever happens, whatever happens in the after, whatever your after believe when you pass on, let you deal with that. Who am I to judge you? Long as you're not infringing and not trying to fuck with my kids and trying to put the pins on my kids. Let my kids be innocent and natural. It don't need to be time for sexual deviance on YouTube and Disney and this and that. Let my kids do what they want to do. Yeah, I know which way I want my kids to go, but let them deal with that innocently. Right. Is there's too much sexual deviance now?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

That's all. What you're doing is sexualness, do it in your privacy. Okay. You wanna do what you want to do, do it. That's fine. Why am I my fucking business? But don't push, nobody needs to be screwing. And and so there's some things, you know. I don't know if you're familiar with the term Project 2025. I was about to say that. So there are some things that I agree with. Like what? Censoring porn. Okay. Criminalizing sex work. Criminalizing, I'm I'm I'm okay with it. They create hey, if they if they ban only fans, hey, and I again I'm gonna say this, like I said, you probably heard me say this, but I don't knock you if you do only fans. Get your money, man. Right. Because it's the avenue on the play. Go get it. But if they criminalize it, I'm not gonna be saying, oh no. They banning only fans. Me neither. You old freaking 69 guys need to stop watching this shit anyway and focus on some some some some prosperity. Yeah. And make a you gotta make you better for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:18

Some substance.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:20

Because it ruins your mentality towards women anyway. The people that's fucking with porn. You look at women, you can't build bonds with women because you look at them as straight sexual objects. You don't know how to be, you don't look at them nothing but something to get you off. You don't know how to make it all when every time you've had him, because you ain't never, you never was a person that's gonna go out there and be personable anyway and go have charisma and tore them and talk to a woman anyway. You only see them from when you getting off on your computer screen or your phone screen. So when you meet a woman, you don't know how to deal with her. You think that's all you think they for. Yeah. Because that's the only reaction you have in your damn basement.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

Yeah, look what he done to Kurt Franklin. I mean, the man is older now and he still has struggles from you know when that was an addiction for him.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:58

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:59

It alters your it alters your brain.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:01

Terry Coos. I'm not against that. Yeah, I really do. Kanye West. If I was the president, I'm telling you now. I would be scared to kind of live under you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:11

You got me a little nervous. No, no, I'll I'll be fair as everybody. You heard what I said now. No, you heard what I said.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

Now it turns out you heard what I said now. Because I'm gonna make the generation better. My kids think that these kids, this is the future I'm thinking about. If you do whatever you're doing, I'm gonna let you do it. But I ain't finna, I ain't finna make no bathrooms for you. I ain't finna let you get no sports and shit. I'm sorry. I wouldn't make you get no sports against the uh you ain't finna be no man that genetically didn't modify yourself and going in like they didn't limbics, or they claim it. I don't know if it's true or not, because they suing that and they suing uh L on them and that but you be you you beating up that's true, I'm not going for that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Yeah, me neither.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

But if you want to do what you want to do, go ahead, brother. But you ain't finna be nobody, man or woman, finna be able to promote sexuality uh in a in a just so crazy way where now you just all on man ain't got nothing, they got nothing that half of nothing on, shaking ass and shaking and and shaking balls and cat, whatever they do.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

It desensitizes us. And I don't want that. Yeah, we dismissed out to murder now.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

Yeah. Used to see a person laying on the street, dead body part land over here, you'd be like, oh my god. Now you oh damn. And go on, go watch it. That's real. That's real. Desensitization because that's why these games like modern warfare and shit, it desensitizes you to what's coming. If it does come, I don't know if it's coming or not, but it seemed like that's that way. It's it's been going all over the other places all over the world. You know what I'm saying? I hope it's not coming, but it's still, you still desensitized, man. These kids, now that's why you have more. Look, now more than ever, Timmy from Rome. We've talked about this too. These teachers, it's because of the students are desensitized. Now they're shooting at the teachers. That's why some of these teachers giving in. Might be a fly guy, football player or something, flirting with a teacher. She ain't getting something at home, or she her husband ain't doing right at home, and she gon' take the bait. Now that's your fault. But that's why I say you gotta have logic.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:03

Well, then, and then I think with that too, there is no back, I know, you know, I was born in the 90s. Um, but the way I was raised, you know, was by old school parents that kids were kids and adults were adults. Oh, yeah. And so now what happens is there's no boundaries of children and adults. It's like, well, they're kids, but they have a voice, but this, but that. And so what happens is kids are playing on the same, you know, lines that adults are playing on. There's just there's no boundaries anymore between adults and kids. Um, and for me, you know, I'm raising one of my nieces. My sister passed one of her kids, um, one of her daughters to live with me. I don't play. I'm your aunt, but you're gonna respect me. Oh, yeah. You know, and yeah, very old school. You know. Certain things you're not gonna watch, certain things that we're not gonna listen to. And she's 15.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

You know, we all guilty that we play and we playing any music and everything, even on Sundays. See, when I grew up, I spined this um on Sundays. Hey, we going to church. You better not touch a rap station or 102 or 97.9.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:05

I couldn't watch BT growing up, especially after dark. That was something you tried to sneak and watch, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:11

See, back then, back then, you had to have a harder access to that content. You had to sneak up and watch BTN Cut or HBO Late at night. Exactly. Remember HBO late at night and Big Boom? Who remember real sex?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:24

Who remember real sex? Y'all freaking motherfuckers remember real sex out there because some of y'all was grew up fast.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:30

And if adults were having an adult night playing cards, dying. Kids were separated. It was completely different. You know, you you going upstairs around. Yeah, you're gonna be with the kids. And if you come into the room with an adult, don't you come down directed?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:43

Yeah, something like that. You already ate.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

You already took a bath. You already bathroom, go pee. Don't come down here. Exactly. That's true. That's the loss. Now the kids is in the mix. Yeah. They sitting at the court at the card table. They treating their kids like grown-ups now. Yeah. Expecting them to do grown-up things.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:00

You know, responsibilities. Hey, you hit the nail on the head with that one. It's just, it's too much desensitize sent desentified. Whatever the episode. Desensitized. You know what I'm saying? I always get jumped up every episode. Desensitized.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:15

And that's part of the problem. But that goes back to some of this. I would make it. Who's going to get mad? So you wanna, so y'all out here in the world want to get mad at me because I want to protect. Say, look, y'all go and watch a business, make your money to that. But stop showing ass and titties and stuff and making it easy. You got these social media sites. If I find out that you can be fined, if I find out that children are accessing your site, you're gonna pay a fine. Make more money for the country. Because you're gonna bet you're gonna start regulating that shit now. They get through VPNs, they line through VPNs and shit. And we got VPNs on, make VPNs pay more. But is it their responsibility or yours? It's the leaders of the that's why you need a leader. Because these people don't know how to handle themselves. A leader leads. It's the leader's responsibility.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Right, but what I'm saying is it is it someone's else responsible? So if I if I am the owner of um OnlyFans, is it my responsibility to keep your child off of this or is it yours?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

Hey, you want to keep in my in my mind as a leader, you want to have you making money on these OnlyFans, ain't you, sir? You want to keep making money? You better find protocols to keep these cheers out of though. You're gonna keep paying a fine for every child that I find out that access your content. Ain't nothing wrong with that, Joy. In my mentality, there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:27

But you're the parent. Why are you not making sure your child's not on that?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

Oh, yeah, but that's okay. But still, the ultimate needer is the person that's putting it out.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:34

I think we can't understate the importance, though, of the mobile phone and whether or not you allow your kids to go on it or not, they could be in their room on it. They could be in the car on it, they could be in the backyard on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:46

And in my opinion, a child doesn't need a cell phone until a certain age. What should a child have a phone for? But that's becoming a new babysitter. You're right. You know, people don't spend time with their kids anymore. It's no family, it's no coming to the table, sitting down, talking to your kids, having family dinner. It's I want to be watching my reality TV show. I want you to be quiet. So here go a phone, here go a tablet.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

From the moment they're born, I said that. You put a damn phone in it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:09

No relationship. No, so and I mean, you know, and a lot of parents, as educators, I have a lot of friends that are educators.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

Is that the mark of the beast or something?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:17

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

You exposed.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:22

At an early age.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:23

I have a lot of friends that are educators, and they complain that there's no relationship with parents and their kids. You know, it comes at the end of the school year, these parents are like, you know, well, how's my child not going to the next grade? But the parent was nowhere in sight the entire year, never showed up to the school, never answered the phone, but then you're mad at the educator because you didn't educate my child.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

And what's what I think is is is interesting is that there's no blueprint for this day and age that we have now.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:48

Nobody knows what to do or how to get out of this.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:51

We created a technology that we're addicted to. We created uh apps and stuff like that that took down our attention. Uh, and everybody, from the parents to the teenagers to the little kids, are all using this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

So how do you break that down? How do you break down a system that large part of your economy, not not even forget the the degeneracy?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:12

Large part of your production, Amazon, uh, Facebook, uh buying apps on uh buying things off of apps, uh selling products, promoting products online, are done through mobile devices. Did you guys have a channel? So how do you how do you break that down?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:27

Did you guys ever see the interview where an Apple employee said that their kids are only allowed to use technology one or two hours out the day? Now they create they create this stuff and sell it to us and our family. But their children said that too. They they use it for school or for research purposes, a little entertainment, but the way our kids have access to it, they do not allow because they know what it does to their children's mind. And these are the people that are creating this.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:55

Yeah. So that's something that you know we as parents need to implement because I I have a child that he he gonna watch that phone. Yeah, I may get back to y'all today because I'm glad you said that. I may implement that test study, and and since y'all can catch me live, tell you what the how it's going over the time. I'll tell you three months later what's the what's what's the changes I've seen. Yeah, you know, I come talk to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:21

Pick up a book.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:21

Yeah, pick up a book, come talk to me. Yeah, come tell me what you're going through. How was school today? People don't even ask their kid how school. Can you believe that? How was school today? And then they'll let the kid come in there and say, Good. What does that mean? Yeah, good. Okay, then let them go and white they wait. Yeah. What did you learn today? We don't do that no more, you know? We don't do that anymore. And and and we don't think, here go the thing. We don't we don't think as much for ourselves. We still think, but definitely not as much for ourselves as we do anymore. And people that's it's people that can't come up with invent a new recipe because they always on YouTube. You might have discovered a new way to cook fried chicken or something, but you watch it and you go to air, you don't know how to cook, first of all. But then you go to YouTube and watch them cook. And so that's the way you know how to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:08

Yeah. You know, just the same thing with life. We can't come up with new things. We're gonna let's start letting machines do it. That's what's gonna happen. You're gonna let AI. It's so many people now that let AI write their papers.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:18

Don't have pride in their own mentality. I'm just I'm so busy as let me just hit this AI. Well, we know. Let me write this AI write this paper for me for school.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:27

And you can tell, because then when you have conversation with them.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:29

They don't talk like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:30

Yeah, you can tell.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

Yeah, you don't talk your conversation. Didn't you just say this, Jimmy, in this paper? Uh that paper? Oh, oh yeah, uh, yeah, uh the president. Man, I wasn't talking about the president, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. You know, one thing is uh is it's good that you know we we kind of touching on these things, but one point that we need to get across is we all on the same page and we need, excuse me, we all need to be on the same page. Let's just get educated, everybody. Let's just change the way we do things. We already know thou hundreds of years of oppression then pushed us to a situation where we kind of don't have the same advantages of other cultures that weren't enslaved or didn't grow up with everything that wasn't depressed, excuse me, dispressed or held back or discriminated against. But now we're intelligent enough to start, it's you have no excuses now to rise up out of the ash. You have all of the resources that you've never had, and you have more resources now that you ever had in 1879. Well, Risa, look at the resources you got now composed to when you was in 1879 in America.

unknown 1:14:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:38

That's right. Or 1888, or whatever the hell it was. 1679. Look at the resources you have now. Yeah, you have no excuse to climb up out of that hope.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:48

I agree. My thing is, is for me, it's also realizing that big changes start small and they take a long time. So so, like what you're doing, mental health, stuff like that, for the full effects of us to see that, it's gonna be like 100, 200, 300 years. But that's because you can create communities and even big pockets of people who value that stuff, but then for like the whole society to change, that does take a long time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:15

But it's like you can't see people want the change to happen in their lifetime. In their lifetime, that's what they want. You be wanting you need to think about I need to change my child, make it better for my child. So then he got what he had, and it wasn't much, but it was better than what I had. So then he makes it better for his child, then it's better than what he had. So until you wash that shit out of your family generation and system, that mentality, you gotta wash it out through behaviors and tennis and generations. You gotta wash out changes. My dad used to smoke crack.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

I ain't never wanted to smoke crack, but my dad used to rob.

unknown 1:15:46

Two.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:47

He used to rob and smoke crack. So I didn't smoke crack, but I rob. My kid now sees me in prison. He seen how it happened to me. He don't want to rob no more. So now that's not a problem that he did. So he don't smoke crack and he don't rob. You know, he might just be uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh something else. Smoke a little weed. Smoke a little weed and he don't have that same drive that a person that didn't smoke weed had. So this kid will see him smoking weed and be like, well, my dad, he was good, okay, but he didn't have much of a drive. He kind of worked a little job at the warehouse and smoked his weed or whatever, and I didn't like the way he turned out. Now I'm not gonna smoke weed. So now I'm not gonna smoke weed. I'm gonna work, I'm gonna work a nine to five and go and get me a pension and retire. But my kids see me and I'm preaching to my kid like, hey, my life was okay, but you can do better by going to college. So now my kids see me. Went my dad, my dad, okay. He just worked nine to five. He's just a blue-collar guy, and he saw you doing that, and then he said, Well, let me go to college and let me go get me a little bachelor's degree, and then they go on forth and forth and improve. That's how you gotta do it. You can't sit there and hey, you're more than likely not gonna be the top of your bloodline if you don't shoot, if you go ahead, you know, regardless of what you do, somebody's gonna be watching you and say, Well, I ain't like that, what they did. Yeah, and you should hope not. You shouldn't hope not.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:00

You should always your kids and your grandkids and your great grandkids are gonna be even better than you. Always. That's it, that's how and that's that's the way it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:08

So, with what y'all are saying, I guess my thing like right now has been who are the leaders of our generation? You know, like, you know, from from 20 to I'm gonna say 45, who who's our leaders? You know, the older generations, they had their Malcolm X, they had, you know, they had their leaders that attempted to lead change within the black community. Who do we have?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:31

Outside of our rappers. I'd say Obama. I'd say outside of our rappers. He's he's outside the age range you're talking about, but I'd say Obama. Whether or not we agree with this policy or whatever, that was a very big moment for black culture in the US. All over the world, really.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:48

That was a big one. It's gonna be more after that, if if God says, and I say that to say that we we need new leaders. We need we need new leaders.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

We need new leaders. But we also have to appreciate the people who are here who are doing good work. Like uh the lady who's the Supreme Uh on the Supreme Court, the black lady who got on there, they're asking her the dumbest questions I ever heard, asking her racist questions. But she is a leader, right? She could be a big leader for our community. We could really look up to her. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:17

You're talking about Kijani, K Johnny Brown. Exactly. Kiani, uh Kei Johnny, it's Kay Brown. I know Brown, right? You know, with the Dreads. Yeah. With the Dreads. Yeah. She's married to the Caucasian guy. Yeah. You know you're talking about Keaniani Brown. But at least her career. I know. I'm telling you, I know about these. You're talking about Keani Brown. But it's gonna take. I'm gonna tell you, I think the best president would come out of 85. Whoever is born in 85 right now, they're gonna be probably one of the best presidents because they got the best of both. That is so biased. But listen. That is so. No, listen, because listen, listen at me, listen at me, toe. Do y'all want me to start running for break? I swear I'll be the famous. I just gotta learn foreign policy and and economics better. But I would not oppress anybody. But you ain't finna, it's gonna be said you're gonna have to break, you might not see you. Hey, you're not gonna be exposed these kids to sexual deviation. You know what I'm saying? And we need these kids to we our future generation, we depended on them.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:15

I think we are, for me, that's just the scariest thing for our community. I don't see just a lot of leaders rising up. I feel that a lot of older generation is struggling because they don't feel comfortable enough to pass the torch. Because it's not really, I'm not gonna say it's not nothing there, because there are leaders, but I think that there's a breakdown somewhere. And you see a lot of older leaders that are saying, What do we do? Because I'm tired. I ran the race, you know, I've paved the way, but who do I trust to come under me and take this torch?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:46

And the big thing about that study that I can pass. I love what you said. A big thing about that is how exponentially more advanced we got with technology in a short amount of time. So they're looking at us like, hey, I don't even know what the younger generation is doing. Right. They don't understand that information comes out on Twitter before it comes out on CNN. They don't understand that you can uh uh use Wi-Fi and apps and all these things to be hyper-productive.

unknown 1:20:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:13

They don't understand like they're trying to like find someone to hand the baton to, not understand that we're like we're like a different generation entirely.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

But then you have a lot of us in our generation that we don't really get off into what's really important sometimes. And so, because of technology, if social media don't say that it's fun or it's the thing to do, we're not diligent about it. So you have a lot of people that, you know, are young people that could really be really good leaders, but social media has us so caught up. And so we're we're so busy trying to like stunt and look good, become influencers. This is the influence, you know, community is just crazy, but what are we really influencing people to do? Yeah, you know, so I think that that's just something that I've been very like just praying about, like rise up leaders that actually care about their community, that will do stuff within the community because that's where change comes, right? So, you know, just getting off of social media for a little while and learning politics. A lot of young people don't know politics.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:10

I don't know. I I you know what? I sat there, it's sad. I sat there and asked my kids one day, they was here. I say, can you name the three branches of government? And they in high school couldn't do it. So I had to sit down and educate them on the three branches of government.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:29

Executive, legislative, legislative, legislative.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:35

Hey, and then explain to them what they all do. And what's the purpose? You see what I'm saying? But if you probably ask them, that's something you should know. Who's the most vile person on TikTok?

SPEAKER_01 1:21:44

They can't even tell you who the my kids couldn't even tell you who the damn vice president is. Wow. That's what that's because they're not paying, they're paying attention to Mr. Beast, whoever his name is on YouTube. They paying attention to I Show Speed.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:03

Uh uh, what's his name? Ka uh Kai uh Kai Sinat. Kai Sinat. Hey, God bless all them brothers. You do your thing, they're getting their money. But when you ain't getting that kind of money, you need to be trying to figure out how you can set yourself up, take care of your business first. You steady watching other people doing their sign. You want to watch other people living, laughing, shining and shit instead of you sitting with, damn, let me go do this. Not watch them do this, not even trying to copy them do this.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:28

Let me just they're not trying to push themselves. This is this is a generation of kids that don't think for themselves. They want to they're quicker to shoot now.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:39

They quicker to kill when people used to fight more. Big time. But my thing is, my concern, or maybe it's maybe I shouldn't be concerned about it, but the people that they're going to vote for, uh uh, your kids when they're 18, 22, you know, whatever. Are gonna be Mr. Beast. The funders. They're gonna be kind of not not literally. Somebody like that who like they have no, they have no experience in office, but they know how to run their mouth on the popular person.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:09

That's how y'all feel about our uh current possible president. And that's and so are we shifting to that where the reason may not be in depth.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:18

I I think that's a perfect shift, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:21

Because that's how I see it. Like you think Trump is bad, or you think Trump is good? Well, wait, wait 15, 20 years down the road when you have Trump 2.0 who has a hundred million followers on YouTube and a hundred million followers on X and a hundred million followers on IG. That's a good way to look at that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:40

It's gonna be a it's gonna be a bunch of people at the polls just closing their eyes, holding their nose, and pressing a button. I promise you. That's what's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:51

Like, did y'all see how much money they raised for her in so little time?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:57

Women are powerful. There was women that came together. Women. No emotions. Logic. No, I think I think that's a lot of emotions.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:07

I think angry because they well know what they're threatening women's rights. That's what they're fucking up with. You're threatening, you're telling a woman what to do with her body. That's what they're messing up with. That's one of the biggest things that they're messing up with. Yeah. Like, stop kidding. They saying, hey, you can't, they locking them down. You can't go, you you, you can't, if it's gonna start being a crime to even fly the state to go try to get abortions and shit now. And people can report you and get reward money. Yeah, so that's like starting to be too much for a woman that's like, this is my body, I got raped. Yeah, you know, I don't like this guy. He's a fucking deadbeat. I already seen the side of him, and I seen a side of him. I but then again, too. Now let it, I say let it happen. Let them do it. If they want to do it, let them do it. Don't try to, you're trying to control a person, bro. If the services out there, let the woman go do it. Whatever she gotta deal with later on in life, if that's something she gotta deal with, let her deal with it. You gotta let people be. God doesn't let you not take a step to the abortion clinic. He don't he gonna he gonna deal with what he got. If he feels like something wrong with that later, he's gonna come deal with that later, maybe. If that's something that he doesn't like. So you shouldn't be playing God trying to control another human.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:18

It's like we live, we're starting to live under a dictatorship, and this country was was supposed to be a democracy. Yeah, and so it's like do we want a dictatorship or do we want to stick to what we said this country was supposed to be?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:28

No, this country was never a democracy. You just let people crash if they want to high feet.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:33

It wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:35

These grown ass people, if they want to crash and burn, do something that they want to do, then do it. Yeah, that's gonna piss them out if they can't do it. That's why you lose votes. That's why you're gonna lose votes. If you're not gonna rule with just authority, hey, look, you're not gonna commit crimes, you're not gonna be able to promote. I'm I'm I'll hey, as a man that's announcing a future presidential candidacy, you're not gonna be able to commit crimes and get away with it. I'm gonna stop sexual devices on public. If you're gonna do it in privacy, and it's gonna be locked down privacy, and if you get caught, you're gonna get punished for getting caught for somebody caught in shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:11

But the thing about, has that ever really been private or is it just more extra?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

But that's what I'm saying. It don't matter to me. You gonna we're gonna make we're gonna lock this shit down. Cause I need my kid growing with niggas.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:22

Because now we have only fans, but back in the day they had madams, they had whorehouses. I mean, it's like no kid walking in no whorehouse, baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:31

Ain't no kid walking in no whorehouse. You gotta show your ID. You ain't gotta show your ID to go lock it up in every room. Hey, go to bed. It's time for you to go to bed and get in bed. And you go up there, and they got the phone under the cover. Looking at porn and shit. And then you don't know what they're doing. You really don't know. Now, again, it used to be so hard to access sexual content as a kid. We we we agreed on it in the episode. Now, it's so easy, and it's showing. It's showing. And a lot of our stunting as black people and people, period, is because of women. Women do hold a lot of power. Women are the cause for all this damn stunting.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:09

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:10

They are. You want to have the best car, you wanna have the flying ride.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:13

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

And the woman wanna have the best booty, the best tissue.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:17

There are women that you can, you there are women that that want a man of substance. Oh yeah. Yes, of course. But there are men that, you know, they're attracted to the wrong type of women. I mean, if you're attracted to a woman because of her hips and her breasts, but you're not, you know, trying to be attracted to what's on the inside, that's your fault. So you get what you get when you come on the other side of it. You know, so it's like a case. I mean, y'all have to take responsibility too.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:42

But would you say I think we both have to take responsibility and not disproportionately assign like responsibility? Like, like you're saying, there are a lot of good women out there.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:53

A lot of good niggas out there, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:27:55

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:55

But we we assign so much power to the toxic extremes on both sides. People like that. And then we think people love payment.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:03

People love people.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:04

Oh, yeah, that's drama. So they're they love drama. They love people.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:07

You think that women really want to go lay on the table and get a BBL? But in a lot of women's minds, you know, nowadays, if you don't have the body, you are you feel like you're competing with all of these different women that then went spent, you know, five, ten thousand dollars on their body. So it's becoming a trend because I want to be married, I want a man to take me serious, but most women know that men they don't pay attention to what's in here. They a man is gonna be attracted to you by what he sees.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:34

First. First, at least first, almost always first. But that's like a lot of times, what's the first thing you look at a man when you look at him? That's both people. I look at their face and they feet.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:44

Is that like My baby, I would tell you, my grandpa always told me, hey, look at their hands. Their nails is dirty, their feet toes ugly, they crushed up, they they throwing, you know what I'm saying? They got dirt in their toes, they crunched up, they ain't got no paint on them and all that chip. Like that's not attractive.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:56

But when she looks at your feet, she's looking at your shoes to see, hey, that's what you're doing. Does he have money? Does he have style?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:03

She's looking at your feet for your money. See if you're clean, he got money. He looking at your feet to see if you're clean. He ain't look at your feet to see if you got money. When he looking at see, oh, she got them lit Chris Dills. He looked at your feet, though. She got some nice shape, pretty toes. You know what I'm saying? She got some nice pretty toes. So she got nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:17

There's work to be done on both sides.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:22

We can agree. We can agree.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:23

And like you were saying, we love drama. So much of this country, it revolves around.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:29

It's a big reality TV show, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:33

I always tell people this this country is like the carnival.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:36

It's like an adult carnival all over everywhere. You go in, you get, you take your ticket, you go in, you take the rides, you pay to do all the rides, you pay back into the system. The rides keep going because you're paying to keep them going. And you go and you watch the clowns dance around, you watch the Cirque du Soleil people doing all this. That's literally what this country is like, entertainment-wise, at least. One big thing I did want to touch upon about on the politics, a big thing is I do think that there are a lot of young people who do go into politics, but the thing is, it's a family thing. It stays in the family. So if your dad's in politics, you go into politics. If your mom's in politics, you're more likely to go into politics. You stay in that kind of lane. And when not a lot of black people have family in those political spheres, who you think's gonna be making the laws, the rules? It's gonna be the white people who've been there three, four, six, ten generations. Right. All the way back to Abraham Lincoln and everything like that. They're gonna stay. And that family value that they've instilled is gonna stay. And that racism that that stays there, it's gonna stay. It's gonna keep going into the industry. It's gonna keep going into the executive, the judicial, the legislative branches. It's gonna stay in those in those areas. And that's why a lot of times we can feel like this country hasn't changed because it doesn't. We're just getting the same people over and over bloodline, over nepotism, almost like Hollywood, nepotism, nepot babies.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:07

Yeah. So so so so uh Miss Joy, I got a question for you because this is one of the debates that's been going on in the the man-female community as well. Yeah. In today's world, where we have all agreed now inflation is high, the cost of living is high. You do that. Wait, hold on. Time's out. Wait, time's out. Just wait. Where we uh where we agree, did we all agree? Do we all agree? I just want to make sure because I don't want to be on different page. Do we all agree that inflation is high, the cost of living is high in the ground world?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:36

So, how do you feel about when uh it's dynamics in relationships now where women are required by a lot of men now to contribute more to the relationship? Because everybody ain't making 150,000 and can take that. We we need help too sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:54

You want my real I want your real opinion. We all real. The camera on you. Zoom in.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:01

Zoom in, let's get this loud.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:02

Um, I think for me, my mentality is different, right? So I'm a hustler just by nature. It's it's in my blood, it's in my DNA. So I don't believe that it's anybody else's responsibility to necessarily take care of me. Um, I've never been the type of woman, and Lord, I'm probably gonna be bash, but I don't believe that my companionship is responsible for providing a certain type of lifestyle for me. Um, I'm very big on partnership. And I'll say that a lot. Like, you know, the person that you connect yourself with, that you marry, that's your partner in life. I have my journey, you have yours, but we have a common vision for our union, right? Um so I think that the reality of it is you need to pull your weight. And I mean, that's that's just like I say, that's a personal opinion of mine. Um, I do know that, you know, one person is always gonna make more than the other, but I think it's unrealistic to believe that the world we live in, you're supposed to be kept. We don't live okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:59

Well, y'all hear this? Let me ask you. Ladies and gentlemen, y'all hear this? This is a woman of substance and sense. Let me, bro. I'm sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:09

Do you think in general it's more important for the man to make more money than the woman? Even if you're both balling, even if you're both millionaires, do you feel like it's more important for the man to make more money than the woman? Um, we're even talking about you specifically. We want to know in general. Just in general.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:30

Okay. Um, I think it's important because we still have a lot of men that are for me. If I make more money, then I'm gonna want to have a say in my household of what's going on more. Okay. I agree. Um, because hey, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:49

Get off that power trip.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:50

Yeah, and I but you know, in general, you have a lot of men that are still power driven.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:55

You know, and so it's an ego thing versus looking at it as once again, we're a partnership, one common goal for this union, and we're both, hey, we're both the president. You know, it's 50-50. But you don't have you have these men that are like, no, I'm the head, regardless, you know. But what's what's the head? Why can't we both come together and make this work?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:17

Wouldn't, but so you're saying you're both the president, but I can't think of a single time in history where there's been two presidents. It doesn't mean it can't happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:24

Listen, listen. I want to hear our answer because if Kamala is gonna be the head of a country, then and you say there's no time when a woman should be a head. So you answered the question right. Because I was just wanting to say, well, then how can Kamala be okay? So you know what? But I think non-traditional. You gotta modernize.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:44

Yeah, I think non-traditional because we don't live in a traditional society.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:49

I agree with you. Yeah. I agree, you gotta be smart. Use your damn brain. We're not in the same world is evolving. Women have more power now.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:56

So women had the power and they were taking care of the home. Do we need to redefine marriage? For me, for is that marriage just be what it is. I mean, well, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:07

I I say yeah. Because, you know, like I said, it's it's a lot of women that I know, you know, I have friends. They want to be kept. They they are looking for somebody to take care of them. And I tell them all the time, listen, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:18

It's gonna be harder to find it. It's gonna be hard to find that.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:21

And if you do find somebody that's gonna provide for you, then you're living by their rules, their rules, and everything that they believe. Exactly. So for me, I don't look at marriage traditionally. Um, and I do feel that, hey, this is a new century, this is a new time. Women are not standing at home baking pies. We're going to the store, we're getting the tools to get, you know, the pies already baked. I'm just putting it in the oven, you know, and so um I just think that's where we are as a as a world. And hopefully people begin to allow their minds to get to that place.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:56

Bottom line is you have to evolve nowadays. You gotta evolve with the times. Yeah, women are not the stay-at-home caretakers that they used to be. They have opportunities that they have. But so women gotta, but see, women have to man, women have to get out of that mindset too, though, and start being aware of their surroundings. You have just like black people, just like we were saying, hey, you're not in the 1776, your opportunities are more now, so you don't have that excuse of, hey, you gotta use what you have now to come out of the hole and do same with women now. Back.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:27

But there are some women that want to be taken care of. That's fine. They want to, you know, stay home and have the five and six children. There's nothing wrong with that. And nothing is wrong with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:34

So I say you gotta find somebody that's compelled to that.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:37

But for me, no, if I want to build an empire and you want to be able to have more than you've ever had, you know, go further. We gotta, we gotta run this race together.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:47

Do you remember um Real Housewives of Atlanta? I think it was. You probably gonna remember this episode. But you remember everybody know what's her name? Is it is it um the pretty I love her? She's so true. No, she was married to Kit Cordell Stewart. She was young of Portia. Oh, Porsche, yeah. He was saying, if you want to work and this and that, we ain't finna have no baby then. She wanted a baby or something, and he was like, nah, uh-uh. And his mind was like, we ain't gonna need to have no kids and stuff if you want to work. You want to work and who gonna I ain't want no kids. So there was a clash where actually the brother was making sense. Because he was rich, so she didn't have to work. That's what he was saying. Like, you don't have to work. But since you want to work, well then we're gonna we can do that, that's fine. But we don't need to be trying to have kids. But why not? Yeah, why not? Because in his mind, the dynamic has changed. I know and I and I'm not saying that I wouldn't say the same thing, but all I'm saying is in his mind, that does that make a change. I want you to stay home and raise the kid if we got the kid. He was more traditional in that fashion. But if you do want to work, go ahead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:45

But if you do that, but I think that's still that ego-driven inside of a man. I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:49

And okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:50

Men will always look at women as, you know, lesser and lead to listen to what I say. Yeah, and you know, okay, stay home. I make the money, you stay home. But why do I have to stay home? Why you can't, you make the money, why you can't help with the kids. Right. You know, I have my I have my thing going, you have your thing going. Both of us give to our child, that means that our kids are not going without.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:11

I'm one who believes if we're both going to work, that's better for the household now. I was making 150, but I had to allocate 50, 60 of it to taking care of this family and these business, maybe 80 of it to take care of these kids and his family. Now I make 150, you make 100,000, we make 250, and we're both pouring in. Exactly. I believe I'm I'm one of those, I come up with, I'll be, hey, I believe in a percentage rule. It ain't fair for us both. Now we both got this house, we'll both agreed to get this house. But if I'm making 50,000 and you making 100,000 and the mortgage is 1,500, well, you pay $1,000 and I pay $500. Because that's that's the I that's what I that would be fair.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:50

But then are you gonna also sit back and, you know, feel like it ain't 50-50. I dictate all the, you know, I dictate everything. Okay. So and I feel like that's where the breakdown happens because yeah. Okay, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:03

I wash my own clothes. I don't if a woman didn't do it for me, I hey, they ain't gonna be deal breaker for me. Because I ain't grew up like that. I wasn't raised like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:10

I was raised, you know, to do stuff on my own because you can't always count on somebody. So what are you gonna do when you can't count on someone? That's why I like to learn stuff. Anything I learn because I don't want my operation being shut down because I own this and I don't know what to do with it. I gotta go call somebody that knows.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:28

And my thing is when it comes to like nothing is wrong with like, you know, being a woman that cooks, cleans, you know, take care of. You can hire a maid for that. What else can you bring to the table? And, you know, I feel like that's what I try to, women around me or women that I'm attached to, be more of substance than just being able to cook and clean. Right. Because you know, you can go to a restaurant, you can hire a maid to come in and cook, you can hire a maid to come in and clean, but what else can you bring to the table in your union besides domestic you know, things?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:56

So you know, the the this this this this is uh this is this is this is uh a good conversation, you know. And uh it's it's it's it's it's just a point of of um you know how we all come together and and can put our minds together and think about things like this, you know? Because at the end of the day, you know, we gotta make a change within each other. We gotta we gotta look at each other and we gotta come to an agreement of like, hey, we need to change. I'm talking about the black community. Yeah, we have to come together and stop infighting. Because it's just divided and conquering if you're infighting. You see what I'm saying? And uh, you know, that's that's just part of it. Yeah, you know, and we won't come up until we can come together. But and we are together, but we still got these little things that that that that that that that stop us from from from uh being the best that we can be. Right, right. Because we are the best. God forgive me if anybody's insulted, but that's just the case. And so, you know, again, if we come together, we'll be alright, man. You know.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:14

You know. What what what what what is what is something that you would say, uh, if you, let me ask you this, because we I've been president already this episode. If you were the president, because I seem a little too extreme, sound like.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:32

Yeah, dictatorship.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:34

What would you go through? What would you do?

SPEAKER_03 1:41:37

If I was president, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:38

What would you what would you suggest? What what would you suggest that you would fix in this world? What are some things we didn't get to you that? What is some I told you what I don't like?

SPEAKER_03 1:41:46

What are some things that Miss Jewel don't, you know, I think prison reform, prison reform for me is a big one.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:55

Okay, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:57

Um a lot of laws that come to, you know, things with children that are like in foster care. Um, just you know, their their rights. You know, a lot of kids go through a lot of things, and it's because of state laws that are in place. So I think that um just like the child welfare system and the prison system would be two big things for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:17

So that's what you're gonna do. You're gonna get voted in because you're gonna fix the prisons. That's gonna get you to vote. That's gonna get that's gonna get Miss Jewel elected. You know. Is that no? No, no, no. No, that is that will be one. I mean, I've been. Um that would be one now, no. I'm not now I'm not downplaying that.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:38

Because the prison system is it's where a lot of the money is. Um, people don't understand how deep the prison system runs, especially with big companies that we pour our monies, you know, our money into. You go to Walmart, you spend your money, they're taking that money and putting it back, channeling it back into the prison system. So the prison system goes very deep, you know, it's all the way back to slavery. Um, and we don't talk about it enough. We just think that people go to jail because they do the crime. But that would be something that I would be very anal about. Um, and then just like I said, like our kids, our next generation, the education system, the foster uh system, you know. Um, and then also I'm just a person that believes that, and like I said, people probably gonna beat me up, but I think that it needs to be a lot of reform when it comes to benefits. You know, people getting said that. Yeah, people getting food stamps, people you know, um.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:29

You copying my time, you stealing my talking to you. Seriously. I I'm the pre- She, hey, listen, y'all, we debating on stage, but she, y'all, I y'all heard me say this first. Nah, I just can't go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:39

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I think that um when it comes to just like benefits that, you know, affect really our community, it makes us stagnate it, it makes us lazy, um, and it takes a lot of responsibility from people that they really need to have so that.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:56

Because you have people that are on section eight for years. I propose a cutoff time. Four or five years' term limits on benefits because that's to give you enough time to get you a bachelor's degree. Yeah. I don't want to hear about you got these kids, so you ain't got time for school, you got work. We're gonna give you four or five years to get you some kind of trade. Everything don't take four or five years. You can go get you a wielding degree, you can go get you a certification or demi.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:23

Is that for your lifetime or is that per child? Four years per child? I'm saying because like when it comes to the way that you receive benefits, you receive benefits per child. So is it saying if I have a child right now and my child is You're still getting a lump sum of benefits. So four or five years for my entire life.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:41

So you're gonna have ten. No, no, no, no, no. You're gonna have to pass off. This is gonna be rules and regulations. You ain't finna ride the system, man. You know, all this trying to have five kids so you can have uh uh 20 years. No. No man, them kids gonna be grown by then. No, man. You need to, we're pushing our citizens to be great. Because we want to make America great again, when it was it ever great, first of all.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:05

Yeah, I was just gonna say that.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:06

But if you want to make America great, truly great, push your people to work hard like you would treat your own kids.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:11

But I also feel like You don't hand your kids handouts. That goes, you know, because a lot of people, when you say benefits, you know, the people think of our community, which we're not the only people, the only race that receives benefits. But I also think that for people that are coming into this country, um, the things that they're allowed to have access to that a typical U.S. citizen doesn't have, you know, access to. So I think that I would also be very big on there should be laws and time frames for them as well. They come over here and they give them 40 acres and a mew, you know, for them to be successful. So um just some policies and changes around that as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:50

So I mean, again, um if you guys know us on this show, we're gonna keep it real. And today, I feel like we've kept it very, very real. And we had a real young lady step onto the show and uh, you know, provide her us with uh, you know, her her talking point. And it was very good, and we're appreciative of it. And and um, you know, here on the real talk, we had a uh uh uh uh discussion about you know politics. Um we we discussed Mrs. Joy's career and how she was uh you know led to the the path that she's on. And uh we also discussed relationships and and whatnot. And um, you know, we hope somebody got something out of this. Um you are a wonderful person. Uh welcome to you.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:48

Thank y'all for having me. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:50

Can you can you share where where where they can find you so they can find you? You know, can you share that?

SPEAKER_03 1:46:57

Uh Facebook is gonna be choose joy, and then Instagram and TikTok is the same username, so it's gonna be choose underscore um underscores joy 0802.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:08

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:09

One more time for the people in the back because they act like they're ignorant. We're gonna matter of fact, we're gonna put this up so y'all gonna see. Um, you know, and follow her. And Tyler Perry. Hey man, you heard what the young lady said. We all about networking and giving giving each other a chance, man. So this lady's really involved and does great work, and she's worked really hard to be where she is at this point in her life, and she's continuing to work hard and she's willing to do everything except for do Illuminati stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:38

Yeah, I ain't selling myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:39

She ain't selling her soul. So you trying to get her to go one of these ditty parties, she ain't in.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:44

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:44

But if you're trying to reward hard work and good character and good quality work, then she, I guess she wants that's that's her message to you. Yeah, let's go. Uh, you know, prayers, you got anything pointing, man, for us, man, before we roll about here, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:56

It's been a great episode, G. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been a lot of fun. Um, this is the real talk podcast. We love that Miss Joy came along and joined us on our celestial racket. Managed to give us some of that cosmic choir and was able to spew her wisdom to the whole universe. We need stuff like that. We need people to come in and keep it real on this show, and we can't thank you enough. Blast off, as always. You're the captain of this ship, and you make it happen, Captain. Uh, everybody else, uh, thank you so much for tuning in. Great episode, like I said. We're gonna have our information down here, and don't hesitate to reach out to us. And uh, yeah, that's all I really gotta say about the subject. This was just a great one. This is a really great one.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:41

Great episode broadcast. Can't hear you. All we can tell you is we're on the real planet no more. Y'all go look up. We we've been taking pictures and videos. Have y'all know that did y'all know that we discovered that there's an ocean here now? Did you know that? Did you guys know that we discovered that there's an ocean? Uh we did a sondogram, we and we was able to detect that there's enough water in here that can cover this whole planet from uh up to a pile in water and ocean. So, hey, keep tuned. Look at we always got 4K videos that we shot, you know what I'm saying, on YouTube. Go look it up. That's us, we use the camera, we infiltrate. That's all we can tell you. We can't tell you where we at, because you ain't gonna be able to get here nowhere. So we don't give a damn. But somebody'll try. Somebody somebody, this is a civilians, civilians of people, somebody might come here. But uh anyway, nah, uh all love is all about the game. Uh but we had a great time uh big joy again. We are very honored to have you. Very pleased that you came here. Blessed us with your presence, and uh, we hope to have you back here. Thank you. I appreciate it. You know, be seeing you soon on the red carpet, you know. Speaker! How did I get married? You know what I'm saying? We anyway, uh, we thank y'all for tuning in, man. And uh once again, uh, we appreciate y'all. We broadcasting live from a secret location on Mars, everybody. We out.