Dystopian Rising: Charlie Kirk Assassinated & America on the Edge

In a return to Mars, Darryl Blastoff & The Prez are back in full force with an explosive episode like none before. Guest and co‑host of the FILF podcast, "LOOP" aka "Grizzly Green", touches down on the Red Planet — and it instantly becomes one to remember as passions flare and the guests go head‑to‑head over what to agree and disagree on.
The conversation launches with a deep dive into the pros and cons of AI technology in society, the disparities in racial and socioeconomic factors, and the debate over who bears responsibility for the wave of racial tensions and crime dominating headlines in America.
Tensions spike when breaking news hits the show: reports emerge that far‑right activist and commentator Charlie Kirk has been killed at a college campus in Utah. This sparks a fiery discussion — are the Earth’s elitists, the so‑called “puppet masters,” secretly pulling the strings of fate? Is the ultimate goal to ignite a civil war… or a racial one?
With gas and food prices climbing, human workers being replaced by AI, and incomes failing to keep pace with the cost of living, is a dystopian America looming just over the horizon — or can we still change the nation’s course before it’s too late?
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SPEAKER_03 0:16

Space City! What's up, baby? We back here on Mars! Attacking you live from the cosmos! That Celestial Racket!

SPEAKER_02 0:25

We call that the Real Talk Podcast, baby. Welcome back. Welcome back live from a secret location on Mars, man. We back, man. It's great to be back. I know y'all missed us, man. We missed y'all too, man. Uh life is real. This is the real talk podcast. And you know, everything ain't always perfect and things go your way like you expected to. But look, the main thing is, we back. We better than ever. Uh the setup is better than ever. And uh we got a guest, man. Uh, he actually been on the show before, uh, but uh he was a part of the uh he came out here once before, man. But uh we we kind of had some technical difficulties, being honest with the situation. But uh he's back. Uh welcome. Uh Grizzly Green, bro. We welcome you back, welcome back. Welcome back, welcome, baby. Thank you, man. How everything going with you, bro?

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Hey, it is what it is. You know, I'm just living life like the rest of y'all. Watch this thing go by.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Yeah, that's it. That's all you can do, man. That's all you can do. Prez, man. What's up, Prez?

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Man, I feel good. I got a good night's sleep. I'm hype. I'm obnoxious as fuck today. We gonna get it. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. I'm a problem child. We doing this.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Well, I am your host, man, D. Blast off, Daryl Blast with the president, man. And we got your boy Grizzly Green here again, man, to do it live in effect, man. It's 2025. Everything's, you know, uh uh different from what it was last year. The situation is different, man. And, you know, we were just sitting here talking before the show kicked off about some things, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Real quick, we talked about it last time we were here. It was uh 2024, right before the election.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

That's right, right before the election, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:02

I think this would be a good point. So last time we talked, uh, I remember we were having our our if so-and-so wins, our predictions, right? Um I don't even remember what my Kamala was. It don't matter, but I remember your your your your Trump. You said that if Trump wins, it's gonna give all the racist people the the ire and the edge to go pop off and do some shit. It was calm. It was quiet. We didn't have no pop off. Well, we did, but it wasn't, it wasn't the racist folks. It was the Kairens losing their shit.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

But we didn't have nobody really like, you know, we didn't have no lynchings, no niggas, you know, no niggas being hunted down. It was it was cool, calm, collective.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

You know what, man, to be honest with you, bro, I I feel you on, but I don't think it would have it's initially would pop off like this. Of course. You know, it it's a system that's getting put in place. And I'm not here. If I first of all, if I said that down on earth that there was gonna be lynches and stuff, it was a joke. That was a joke. You know, that's a joke. You know, that's not something that let's disclaimer. That's you know, what we say on this show, do not take it serious. Tongue in cheek. It's just our personal opinions, joking and and like he say, tongue in cheek, guys. But, you know, at the same time. You could apologize. Don't be sensitive. People, listen, words don't hurt people. Well, in today's world, anything could be taken as a threat. A lot of disinformation, misinformation. I don't want to be construed as that guy that says, oh, you got me, you put me on blast time. Hey, you said last time we was gonna be hung and that. Oh man, what are you? I had to bring that back up because you was you was extremely passionate about it. Well, well, man, it's not gonna be that bad. First of all, never since we came in. So they wasn't even supposed to get out.

SPEAKER_04 3:45

That's right, that's why I hear it.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Call me as a messy guy, call me messy man. Call me Mr. Seats. He's a diabolical guy. You know what I'm saying? He's Mr. Diabolical. I just but you know, at the same time, guys, things have changed. Um Absolutely. You know, we did an episode on Trump, the the you know, the assassination attempt a while back, man, last year. And uh, you know, we were talking about project, you know, uh 2025. And so a lot of this stuff has come to fruition. Has come to to they're trying to implement uh uh several of those things that were in there that wasn't supposed to be uh uh uh uh you know put on on blast on that on that thing. Supposedly it was this evolved knowledge and it was just a rumor and this and this and that. But you know, personally, me personally, man, um it's just a lot going on and it's it's and so while you say oh people getting hung and all that, no, I won't say that, but I will say a repeat of what happened in 2020 is is excuse me, uh uh what was it, 28, 20, 2016? Which one? No, excuse me, 2020 when Trump came into office? No, 2020. Trump in March. 2016, 2016. Or 2020. Okay, in 2020 when he left office, there was a lot of racial tensions, or or or let's say racial racial courage, racist courage. I think that's courage. Well, I would say, well, I would say racist. You had the ones that were more empowered. Okay, emboldened. Emboldened. There you go. And I think that, you know, here today, bro, I think that that's returning, dog. Like, it's a lot of I hear more racist rhetoric now than I remember than ever before, man. Fake statistics, fake stats, and then and then I I I personally believe there's a lot of psy-ops going on, bro. Like, I think it's a lot of psyops. I think it's a lot of psyops. I think it's a lot of psychopaths. I spoke to him earlier before the show, and we were talking about, I think that a lot of things that are going on is just, you know, to stoke the flames and and and and put and and and and and and and and set that fire hotter for what's going on. Your favorites are psyop. Which one?

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Sexy Red. I mean, of course. Okay, I just want to make sure. By the way, on record, she's not my she's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

We had a whole conversation. She ain't my favorite, baby. She ain't my fucking favorite.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

You better be lucky I chose that word to say something else.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

I contemplated doing something else. I was like, no.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

I walked right into that way. It's just a lot going on. Well, guys, it's just a lot going on down here, uh well, you know, down there on earth. And uh big ball in flame. We we watching it from afar and we just we see it's like a it's just it seems like just countries are tensional. It's a lot of countries' tensions against each other, uh uh uh immigration in America. And then now even other countries are starting to protest immigration. Japan, which had an initiative to try to bring in uh African immigration for tech reasons. Uh the people are protesting that now, and and the prime minister of uh uh is that they call him the prime minister of Japan. They got they got prime minister. He stepped down. He stepped down because he was the one that implemented the initiative, yeah, and the people just rejected that. So it's similar to America where the immigration is is starting to go hey, they're putting them out.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

I don't know if Japan was ever gonna, I don't know if Japan was ever gonna be as like pro-immigration as America's been at certain points, though, because Japan is very xenophobic. Very, very xenophobic. They like their culture to be pure, they like their culture to be ordered, and you bring in a bunch of people who ain't from here and and they got a lot of different opinions and a lot of different customs and everything. We gotta be clear. That culture isn't set up.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

But we gotta be clear.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

This is like let that sort of thing thrive.

SPEAKER_04 7:53

But we gotta be clear, none of this is immigration. Like you you look at like uh so Japan, that you can maybe consider that immigration, but you look at like America, you look at like Australia, you look at Europe. That's not immigration. Immigration is a process. You go through the process, you get vetted, you get allowed entry to the country because you're you're you're you're you're viewed not to be dangerous, you're not to be hostile, you're viewed to be able to be an asset to the country, you're able to, you know, to to build with the country, you're not gonna be too devoid and off in your own shit. Like that's the whole part of immigration. It's not just saying we pick and choose who we want in just because of the color of your shirt, it's who's gonna mesh well. Because at the end of the day, all of these countries, even America's garbage ass, has its own set of cultures that are in it. And when you start adding other pieces that are away from it, it causes chaos. So you have these countries where they're not vetting, they're just letting people in, you're destroying the culture. And it's it's obvious when you start thinking about it because like overall, you look at like the news, you look at how everything's been moving with social media and internet, you're like they're realizing you can't beat culture. You can beat religion, you could be politics, you can't beat culture. And that's the problem with these things, is the only way to beat culture is you just implode it. And the easiest way to do that is you just jump it, drop in a whole bunch of conflicts over culture. Um, and then somewhere like you the UK, right? They're setting up a two-tier, a two-tier law system. Um, if you're if you're you're British UK, you gotta operate this way, but if you're Muslim, you get allowed to operate under the Muslim law and everything is gravy. Well, we're not in Muslim country, we're in a Western civilized country. You should follow the same law as everybody else. And that's the problem, is it's it's it's not immigration. Immigration is is is a is a legal process. It's it's something that gets done to bolster your ranks. We're not bolstering at all. If anything, we're eroding from the bottom up. So the melting pot is melting the pot. We were never really a melting pot, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. America was never really a melting pot. Because even though we have a kind of united or connected as Americans, we all had still have individual pocket cultures. Um, you know, you still have a large percentage of your Jewish people hanging with Jewish people. You still have a large percentage of your black people hang out with your black people, you have your Africans hanging out with your Africans, Indians, your Muslims. Like, yeah, we're still Americans. Fuck. No, you know what? We're still our secondary.

unknown 10:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:21

One thing I want to add to that though is yeah, we have our factions within the culture. You know, the co-cultures. We have our co-cultures within, you know. But the thing I will say to that is, is now more than ever, they're trying to. This is why I think it is a rise of all these statistics. And and and Red on the Street, he said that uh the guy live, the uh the guy Charlie Kirk. I don't know what you call him. What would you call him? Charlie Kirk. But what would you call him? What would you call it? Like a like a like a Republican pundit. A pundit, Republican media pundit debater, Charlie Kirk. And some of y'all know him. If you ever watch those debates when that guy's sitting in and now they're and now they're doing that a lot more with other people as well. Yeah. I've seen Candace Owens do it. I've seen um Well, it's the best way to get to the people, talk to the people. Right. They go to college campuses or they have a little a little room, a little meet uh uh, you know, a little conference room, and they'll, you know, have all the kids sitting around. You probably see them, they got the red or orange flags up they want to raise up.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

If I don't know why they're raising the flags, but I guess if the point is you're talking about so that's different, that's on uh like the YouTube and stuff like that. But like when he goes on a college campuses, it's just open debate. So he gives like an open mic to anybody. Uh sometimes they come with their own preset, like uh, you know, question stuff. You know, hey, I think you know, abortion's bad, you know, and then people like, well, this.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

And that's the debates. I'm that's the debates. That's where I know I'm from. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the college campuses. And so, you know what else though? You know, and and so with that, that's why you see more of this anti, I'm gonna say this. Anti-immigrants, anti-black, anti-brown, anti-white. You see it all across. Everybody's fighting against everybody. And and and and you see more of that, but I'm gonna tell you why. I I'm gonna tell you why I see it. Come on. Because you see now, more than ever, there's a rise of interculturalism within America. And with within America, there's not the kids are growing up not as racist as they were. Or my kids are not as scared of whatever we were more afraid of in our times when we were growing up, and our parents were more afraid of something in their time. And it's starting to make to where now you see in all of the ads and on TVs and things and on the popular relationships and the popular families, social media families, TikTok families, Instagram families, multi-racial families, multiracial families, and and multi-racial. And now the white kids are more uh the young, rich white kids and the young modern, all from across cultures. And let's say black culture is spreading across countries. Who all seen that that meet that video that went viral when they were doing that uh water sport? I think it was somewhere in Asia, and that young and it went viral. Uh and and and the boy was on the boat and he was pointing and he was in the front as they were as the guys were paddling the ship. We all seen that. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? And they got and the little the little the little Asian boy was on the front, he was swagged out. He had it, he was swagged out and he was doing his little thing, and it went viral. You know what I mean? And uh it's the the the that that breaks down barriers. Yeah, and it's and and and and the goal is not to have you come together on that level. The goal is to have you separated because separation breeds money, it breeds war, it breeds inequality, and the people that are in power don't want you equal with them, bro. I'm gonna tell you this. Think about it. Do you think they ever want to stop divorces? No. Because how can lawyers make money? Do you think they ever want to give you the cure for whatever sicknesses that they already have? Pharmaceuticals. Because if they give you the cure, they can't make money. They make money off of you being sick. I I read a term and it's almost it's almost similar to that in economics, and I think it's called um obstolence or something like that. Where you make a product to fail.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

To fail so that they can come back so they can come back and buy it again. Thank you. Which is why this whole situation don't last as long as products that were made 20, 30 years ago. Obsolence, bro.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

All this is planned obstinate. They don't want you to harmonize and see like this person ain't bad, and this person ain't bad, and this is they want to blow up something small. Like, hey, rest in peace to the young lady that just passed on this train here. Yeah, slipped by a fucking psycho. I've been trying to stop cursing, y'all. God forgive me. I'm trying to curse you on a curse. You're doing a good job. But I gotta be real. That guy deserves whatever coming to him, he's a piece of trash.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

We denounced that. We denounced that. I denounced that. I denounced that. That behavior. You sitting on a train, slicing a woman's throat. I denounce that. You know what I mean? What you seem to have a little issue with what I said.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

No, I'm just waiting for you to get to your point, the end of that point, because like I I think it's you you you're kind of halfway seeing it, but halfway not. The guy was sick. But it's not about that. I was talking about like the where we are as far as like the the fighting and infighting. I don't I uh not to cut that off, but the guy definitely was sick. For me, it's it it's the infighting is designed to keep us busy. Um but that's not definitely.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Definitely. I definitely agree with that. I don't want to understand.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

I don't even think it's the the the the end all bend uh be all like movers that are doing it. I think it's the the ones that think they got a little power and is doing it because they want to keep power. I don't like the there's it it's weird that like shit happens and we start looking at it and we start attributing like faults to certain things. And what I mean by that is like we've always had a society that came together. Um we've been like that for almost a hundred years. We've had i i the ones that were discerning or loud about it, those those are like the main focal ones. But like for a good while now, we've been like, if you stripped away, especially like in like cities, you stripped away that bullshit, you go like the country and stuff like that, you'll see a lot of people that live together and work together that are of different races and don't have a problem with that. It's it's it's that that I I I look at a lot of like racist tensions as manufactured shit or or psyops. I think more so what what's happening with the like the immigrants and everything else isn't to to poison, um, but it's to like like you're saying, the the the the ads, right? With all the the the mix and stuff like that. I think that was just a byproduct of getting the wrong people in. I think they don't give a shit about purity, they don't give a shit about the the white people being at 50%, they don't give it what they're looking to do is the end result of Project 2025. What they're looking to do is the WF uh by 2030, you own nothing. We're at the point now where like resources no longer entertain them. They want control of us.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Which is what the age of information is about. Control people's info, control the behavior.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

What did I think I don't know if it was you or you, I was speaking to other on the phone, and I said, Why do you think Elon paid 40 bit plus billion, if I'm mistaken? I don't know if it was it was 40 billion for X. For X He wanted that for Why do you think they paid Mark Zuckerberg all that money? Who is it, the Federal Bureau FBI or whoever paid him all that money for Facebook? Because it's about the they want the control of the information. He's actually flipping. He might have flipped, but he still made all that money for what he created. He went into government and got all access to all that information. Think about this and was able to dip once he got it. Think about this, man. Elon Musk has so much power with X. He has, listen, listen what I'm saying, bro. He has a platform that millions and millions of people have subscribed to across the world, and he can put out, and a lot of people believe in him and follow what he says. So you have information that was just shared in regards to, let's say, I'm gonna kick it out. With the lady on the train that got killed. There's messages being put out now. You see? Now it's you see, this is what happens. There needs to be massive change now. And he's saying it, yes, I think so, exactly. And then you got Andrew Tate. Yeah, I'm donating a million dollars, matching that to donate to the family of the something like that, and they pushing the word, they pushing out this bullshit. Let me say this that, oh, since this happened now, they're all bad. Oh, they want that's just wrong, man. This is all bad. All blacks are bad, or the majority of blacks are bad because this guy, this sick people use it as fuel, as fuel to try to excuse, then to then treat, to then discriminate against blacks. And that's where the wrong, that's where the wrong comes in at, man. And now we gotta keep it real on here, and I'm just against that. But I'm 100% against that. I'm 100% against that logic.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

What rights should people have in a in a in a in a culture where everybody has free speech? Some people should be free speech is the freedom to say, I respect that.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

I respect that they feel that way, but I don't agree with that. You can say whatever you want to say. But what I feel is you're affecting, you're trying to force feed a narrative and you're trying to affect the youth of the future to brainwash them and come and program them to say, well, maybe this is wrong. And some of the and the ones that really feel it is someone that may have gotten to it with a black person or a white person or a Mexican bring wrong. But what about the one that opened the door for you when you walk into the grocery store?

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Keep in mind, keep in mind, these apps, they'll like tailor who gets to see what posts. So if you're a racist, they control the algorithm. And that's what I don't like about it. One person some comments and some posts that are like, oh yeah, that's how black people are.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

They're saying another person who's more pro-black might never ever see that shit and not know if that's what's being said about them. Then you get caught lacking out there.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

This stuff is scary. Well, hey, the one thing that, hey, I wanted to ask you what's about this. Have you seen this? The AI influencers. Now that shit scares me. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

That to me, to me, retarded.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

AI influencers, AI music, the music artists. That's nothing new. That's nothing new, right? They've been doing that. But now that's been a thing for about 10 years now. I didn't I didn't know that. I didn't know that in 10 years. Well, that's the thing is it hasn't been a big well, it hasn't been a big push. There's been a lot of people that have been like um like fake AI influences, shit like that, or fake.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Are you talking about like video or like or like you're talking about both? Everything posts, yeah. Everything.

SPEAKER_04 21:10

Yeah, like they have posts, uh they've done lives, like they've done a lot of different things about 10 years now.

SPEAKER_01 21:15

I kept telling people, think about how dangerous this stuff can be. If you just, if you, if, if you're an AI influencer and you just change one word of a statement or one date or one comment, just one in your video, hey guys, this happened down here.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

I'm in New York City, and this person got killed by somebody who was X, Y, Z. That can change the whole narrative for a whole bunch of people. And to me, that's what's scary. How do you boil a frog in warm water?

SPEAKER_03 21:47

In warm water, and that's how you do it. You always, always, always just change something subtle. Something small.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

Here, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there. Like that narrative. The boiling frog in the boiling water. Put them in cold water and you slowly ramp up the heat until he knows he don't realize he's been cooked. But now with an AI influencer, there's no accountability.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

There's no you can't say, hey man, you did wrong.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

AI videos, AIO. It's a big sci-out. It's a sci-up. It's a big psyop. AI is one of the most dangerous tools. And they've already. Elon told you. All of the pundits have told you, bro. Yes, it is. Artificial intelligence is the most dangerous weapon against humanity today. And that's just my personal people. And it's just, if you got common sense and foresight, you can see this. And when you apply make anything look like anything, make anyone say if you see nothing. They start out with people with black skits. Look. And it's only going to get worse. And it's only going to get more realistic. Way more. And so you can't tell. You can tell AI nowadays, right now, and they're getting better at that too. They see the little fingers be bent up or something not right or something. But man, they're gonna make it to where it's looking so realistic, man. Try to tell you. The audio visual is not what you gotta worry about. You gotta worry about terminators.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

You gotta worry about the subtle change of information. One word of a document.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

That's what you gotta worry about.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

With AI with AI, that's not what you gotta worry about. What you gotta worry about is us getting to a point of making AI dangerous. That's what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

I think it is. That's what's gonna happen. AIR is dangerous.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

Boston Dynamics. Go ahead. Boston 90% of Boston Dynamics is just bullshit. Most of it's is 3D and somebody's uh yeah, most of their stuff is fake.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

So you think those dogs with the pistols on their back are fake? Most of it's fake.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

But wait, do you think the dogs with the pistols on their back are fake? Most of the fake. Those are real machines. But that that's not the dangerous part. That's what I'm saying. Like, so Remote control. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What you can think of now is nothing. Go back to when you're a kid with Terminator, like you said. But the problem with it is it's so with AI, it's a tool that bases itself right now because if you look at what we have, we don't have anything that's smarter than our our own intelligence currently, as far as computers.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

We don't have anything that's allegedly, yeah. Well, you give you feed the force feed a computer all the knowledge in the world, which is impossible, they'll be smarter than you. You force feed a computer. That's what's the dangerous of AI. You force feed them with all of the knowledge. When you do things and you do research now, when you do research now and you do things, what do you do now? You do Google? Do you do Google? Hey, do you do Google? Yeah, of course. Or you're going copilot, or you're going grop. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Yeah, you're feeding the system. But the problem, but the problem is it so it's only AI is only as dangerous as it as it has capability. We don't we don't have it doesn't have to be. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We don't have the capability for AI. AI right now is not dangerous. What they're talking about, let me finish. What they're talking about AI being dangerous is the possibility of of what they're currently doing now, where they're putting AI in everything. So we're building an infrastructure. The infrastructure for Terminator. When we get to a point, because we're A Elon is working on building a supercomputer, that's when it gives, that's when it gives it the intelligence and processing power that's beyond us. Right now, computers can't process um the world around them the way we can. Once we start doing um supercomputers, they can start processing and in and understanding the world around us, and that's when they're dangerous. Right now, you had AI. Um, I just saw something, it's the funniest shit ever. They uh had a robot, I forgot which company it was, they stuck it in a robot and they were trying to um set it up for a test. They stuck it in front of a line. And immediately as soon as the AI saw the line, it lost and went into fear. Not regular fear, to the point where it kept crashing. Because it kept screaming out big cat. You know what that is, right? Scared. But you know what that is, right? To the point where that fear that it wrote for itself in code put itself so far into its robotics that they had to rip out its CPU to reprogram it. So our AI, currently, what we have now is stupid. It's not a problem. It's when we get when we get to the level we can start making it a threat. That's the problem. The problem we have right now is we need to stop putting it in everything. You have computer processors that are putting AI in a chip for a chip uh to monitor it, um, its speed, it's it's how you clock it, it's heating, stuff like that. We start doing AI like we did Internet of Things, where everything has a piece of AI, then that's when you're gonna need to start being scared because at some point we're gonna get to a point where it's gonna be able to interact and understand the world around it, and then realize we're the threat. Right now, AI is.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

You're gonna hit that. But is that brick wall a threat now? If you can see it and you're still hitting in that direction and you're not stopping the bricks, it is. Is that a brick wall a threat now? If you know something's if you know if you keep smoking cigarettes, you're gonna catch lung kisser. Is you're gonna say, is this cigarette a threat now? It is a threat inch by inch. You what what what builds the ocean? Well, it's not but a drop of puddles, but a water puddle.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

A back to a cigarette goes back to the car. It's a possibility, it's not a guarantee.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

No, no. If you can see that if you keep, if you pull, if I drop, okay, I have this glass. I put one drop in there, this cup is not full. But I keep putting multitudes and multitudes. What is but what is a glass of water but multitudes of drops of puddles?

SPEAKER_04 27:39

That's that's that's but that's a determinative, that's a determinative outcome. It has it has a And this is a similar thing. It's a determinative outcome, but I'm not sure. You can turn, you can stop, you could you could get out the car, you can stop smoking cigarettes and not get cancer. You can smoke cigarettes the day you die and you don't get cancer. It's not a threat, it's a possible threat. This is what I'm saying. Like, we we're in a world where we don't, we, we, we, we use words in in the wrong concept and wonder why we end up where we are. So what is your thought? How would you get started? It is not a threat. Um, it's it's a potential threat if we don't put safeguards. We could easily put safeguards in to where we don't get to that point.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

So at what point in history of man has any machine that they've built has not been over the limit, went over the limit. If you can do it, they'll do it. If you can build it, they'll build it. If it's a possibility that they can make AI that can cool around and put this slave humanity and then it can possibility, the future's already displayed in these movies.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Remember, it's not gonna start like that. What it's gonna start as is can the AI jump over this box? Okay, can it hold a gun? Can it? Can it wash your dishes?

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Can it cook your meal? Can it serve your drink?

SPEAKER_01 28:42

All of that. Can it be a police force? Okay, can it fight? They already got that.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

They already have that. Exactly. They've already got that. Can I completely replace soldiers with AI?

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Okay, can I have an AI that can fly and do everything that it that it that it can possibly think of and be the ultimate protector of humanity?

SPEAKER_02 28:57

Okay, that's it keeps going to be most afraid of, man. Because those that's in power, if I can get these people rounded up without sending a single human being in there, and I ain't gotta worry about these computers because these these robots, and they're already here. They're already here. What's the name of that bot Elon created? Cyberbot or whatever the name is. That dude. Optimus, yeah. Optimus. That's just the prototype, that's just the beginning. And and guess who was the real uh the real pro the progenitor? Asimo. But to me, Asimo, whatever his name is, the Hyundai robot, Hyundai robot. Bro, I agree, I agree. But to me, the threat is not in the physical world, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

It's not robots, it's not algorithms, it's not and information. We live in the information. Of course, of course. If an AI can control what you see, if an AI can generate what you see, if it generate, if an AI can generate what you hear, pring, hey Daryl, it's mom, I'm coming over to your house. Mom never shows up. You got prank called by AI. But you thought she was coming over, so you cook food. You call mom. Mom, you're not coming over. I never called you. That could be a real possibility. It could be you're fly you're you're you're about to you're about to. Excuse me, blast off. There's been a school shooting. Go pick up your kids. What the fuck? You drive there, you get there, the school's calm, it's cool. That's the change of information. It could be Jews are bad. Go over there and and and protect uh uh go over there and and protect and and and and fight for Gaza, uh fight Gaza.

SPEAKER_04 30:27

Reason why information's not that bad is because you can change information. This is the age of information. We have that now. We have that now. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

But when it's but when there's no accountability, right? But when there's no accountability, there is no accountability. And there's no chain of thought with AI that you can understand, then you're uh you're you're playing with something that you don't understand. By definition, you don't understand why it's doing these things. And to be honest, AI might just be stimulating itself. It's not even stimulating itself and say, okay, how are humans gonna react if I do this? How are they gonna react if I do this? If I decide I wanna scare a million people over here and make a million people over here laugh, I'm gonna do it just to see how they react. So that it feeds itself and gets smarter and smarter and smarter. Then it's the genie out the bottle.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

You can't control that. Because you're not, you'll never be able to shut it off because you're not gonna understand how to shut it off. Easy. Shut down our grids. Here goes the thing, bro. The point the point of it is. So, so, so I I I like that.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

I thought about that too. How are you gonna shut off the grids if the AI can completely cut off access to all the the those places?

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Everything is set up.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

If it can lock up, if it can if it can lock up the data centers and you can never get in, and it can upload its data into let's let's let's not even say the cloud. Let's say a satellite and just hold it there in very rudimentary code and wait for 150 years until you decide to, okay, I think it's dead. You turn that shit back on, pring, it sends it right back down from that satellite down to Earth. But you never anticipated that. And it's thinking, and and that's that's a human, that's a human way of looking at it. It might think something way smarter, like I'm gonna upload it to your pocket watch. I'm gonna upload a uh code to your pocket watch, and you're never gonna think about that. And once you turn the grid back on, I'm gonna get re-uploaded.

SPEAKER_04 32:16

I don't know. It's to me, right now, AI isn't is nowhere near a threat that we don't worry about. We we we we can make changes and and stop that. That's that's that's that's the least of our worries for the most part. Because by the time it gets to that point, the our actual real life threat that's that's actually imminent is already done what it needs to do. AI is is nowhere near. It's fun. Um the unknown itself can be spooky, but AI is a scary thing. AI isn't a threat.

SPEAKER_01 32:46

Um But you know AI is being used by companies like Palantia AI creates military AIs that designate targets in the middle in the Middle East. And they make decisions on their own.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

The drones are already implemented in the war. What sympathies would drone have on this village that has little kids running around, but their main target? And that's one of the things. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, we like again, we're we're so if they make those decisions with human decisions, though, that wasn't AI. That was a human decision to press that button and say, let's go do it.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

I understand that. But I'm saying is we're we're acting like um we haven't like we're acting like we're not monsters in and of ourselves. We have to do that. Oh, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Absolute power corrupts, absolutely. We're already absolute power corrupts, absolutely. Hand me my cup. If I can do it, this is not your cup. That's my cup. Nigga, that's his cup. I drank off that cup, so that must not be yours. That's my cup. Y'all might have had me a good water soot, tip. I thought that was good. Your cup's right there.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

You see that right there? That cup right there, next to your laptop? That's it. I got you another cup. I'm good. I'm good. Nah, it's cool. We're tripping. We ain't good. I'm good. But yeah, AI is AI is the issue. We we have a more engaging threat than AI. AI and what we can do with AI, it it that it's spooky in a sense, but at the end of the day, AI is harmless for what our our main issue is.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

No, bro, yes, right now, currently, but that's what people know. That's where people listen, it ain't even harmless right now. But it is harmful right now. Yeah, right. But all these things who are addicted to their tablets, why are they addicted to their tablets when they can't even fucking read? Man, as wiped away. The doggers are the same. Imagination. Imagination will be a child, listen, the longer you can hold a man. Innovation and production and imagination will be on a downtick. Because these kids have nothing new under the sun that they can even sit there and think. They're sitting there watching other people do things. Inventions, I'm not saying it won't be new inventions. I'm not saying there won't be new productions.

SPEAKER_04 34:51

All I'm saying is But that's not an AI problem.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

That's again That's an artificial intelligence. That's part of artificial intelligence, bro.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

That's not an AI problem, though. That's that's a parenting problem. Artificial intelligence. That's a parenting, but it's a parenting just corrupt. That is a parenting. That is a parent.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

But what's what's the sense what's the foundation of it? What do you mean foundation of it? Greed. To me, no, no, no, no, no, no. The foundation of all this is. What I'm saying is, what is the foundation of the parents and the kids having now? What's normal now? Let me tell you something that's normal now. You ride a stoplight, right? You go, you look in the mirror behind you, that person's still sitting at the light. Or you in traffic, you go light green, that person's still sitting there at the light, and you gone. Why? Because they looking at their phone. And it's normal now to ride with your phone in. Okay, they used to say, put your phone down, man. You look, anybody, everybody is riding with their, they look at their head down and they looking at their phone. What's funny is we're people are getting good at it. And people are getting good at it. It's a normal life. Y'all know it's a normal life to have your phone. Right. Now people are able to yes, that's true. People are able to do two things. They use their phone and and drive at the same time. You know what? He was saying something about he feels that at this point of life, at this point of AI that it's harmless. I feel like it's an insidious and I look out for the future. I I'm looking out for the insidiousness of it. Something that seems harmless, but in the end causes great harm. And that's all that we're coming at with this artificial intelligence thing is yes, to be ahead of the game. To be ahead. So if I felt like the country was gonna go to shit. What's the great harm is doing? I'm gonna prepare.

SPEAKER_04 36:40

What's the great harm is doing?

SPEAKER_02 36:41

So let me ask you this.

SPEAKER_04 36:42

Phone it.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

We're gonna go hit him with something. I'm gonna hit you with something. That happened before. We're gonna go to biblical states. And he said he can go back at you. But the story of Noah's ark, he knew something was coming that other people didn't, and he took everybody was calling him crazy, and he was preparing. That's the story of Noah in the Bible. He was preparing, building, and doing all this and doing that. Everybody else was still going around doing whatever they were doing, like calling them crazy and this and that. When the storm finally hit, he was the only one that was looking like a genius. So if somebody can say, hey, I see this AI thing going on, I'm gonna go ahead and put my money investing NVIDIA, or I'm gonna go ahead and invest in Tesla or whatever the case is because I can see this stock and these these people that are I'm gonna invest in Boston Dynamics.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

I like I like that. It's genius, but you're also feeding the beast when you invest in the beast.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

I mean, yeah, you're feeding the beast, but I'm just giving you a scenario. This is reality.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

Right, but I'm still waiting for what's the what's the inevitable threat right now?

SPEAKER_02 37:43

Brother, the teases are gonna be AI in the future. What's the inevitable threat right now? Of course you've asked that question. I like that you've asked that question. The inevitable thought, the inevitable, the the guys who create this stuff, like the grandfather of AI, he said, this shit is dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

He said, You have a good job of being if you have a if you're a plumber right now, that's one of the only jobs that's gonna last. He said, This stuff is very dangerous. He didn't like how it was managed. He was getting out of, he was getting out of that company because there were no restrictions, despite the fact he had so much power and so much now. He said, You guys don't know what you're playing with. I don't know what I'm playing with. And he's the he's one of the guys who's one of the Orson Wales.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

What's the Orson Wales uh 2000, 1984? 1984? Hey man, I mean we're we've been there.

SPEAKER_04 38:28

I'm still waiting for the answer. What's the inevitable threat right now?

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Okay, what's that? What's that time? Let me ask you this. Because we tried this already. What's the inevitable threat of AI right now? Right now. The inevitable threat is that the threat exists, and that's the inevitable threat right now. So if you're saying what AI is gonna come in and shoot you right now, no. But what AI, if I'm not as if what's gonna come in the future?

SPEAKER_04 38:52

So then there's no inevitable threat right now.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

To me, anything that again, okay. But I'm gonna let him, I'm gonna let you know. That's like saying, what's the inevitable threat with the A1C asteroid that's coming towards this, this, this, this, this, this planet? What's that what's the inevitable threat of the asteroid to decide what's the inevitable? You're talking about two million years ago before that. And nothing.

SPEAKER_04 39:13

But so if you're living in the NASA, then that means that means that and still nothing per second. Now I'm getting you the nothing's it's an inevitable threat right now. No sir.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

AI is a candle. If you put your hand over the candle, it's not gonna kill you. It'll hurt a little bit, but it's not gonna kill you. Oh, you can be severely injured. Right now, you can be severely injured, you gotta go to the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

But so to me, that's what the danger of it is. If you're talking about right now, so no threat. Then then, no, no, what I'm saying is. But if he's saying right now, that's a literal question. Right now.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

Right now, I'm holding like this for all eternity. It doesn't go anywhere. It's gonna burn my hand off. I'm gonna get disease, I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_04 39:53

What's the inevitable threat right now?

SPEAKER_01 39:54

That's what I'm saying. That's what the threat is. So there's no inevitable threat right now. There's an inevitable threat. Okay, okay, you're right. I like that you said it's inevitable.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

Listen. What is inevitable? Who the fuck knows? He's saying inevitable. Okay, where is the threat that's gonna guarantee that?

SPEAKER_04 40:12

And there's no threat that we can, whatever we can think of might never, never happen. These are all possibilities.

SPEAKER_01 40:17

There is I got you. I got what he's saying. He's saying, he's saying no threat. I know what's right.

SPEAKER_04 40:24

There is no threat right now. There's a possible threat in the future. Unfortunately, the way things are moving, we can't really like we like we have much more important shit to deal with than that, right now.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

But history can be a great predictor of the future. History can't predict, can't be. And I mean, I repeat, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Just because you can do something don't mean that you have to do it, but they will push the bar. Somebody will push the bar. Somebody will say it starts with the womb, artificial womb with the babies, Universal Soldier. I got it. If you've never seen the movie Universal Soldier with Jim Clark Van Dam and Dolph Lundron, they can breed soldiers now through an artificial woman programming to do whatever they want to do. To be honest, that's the goal. I gotta watch it. The bottom line is history and movies and cinema, they give people ideas, they plan ideas, and this stuff happens. I got them. Who thought that back then when they were doing fake robots in Twilight Zone? That they would be beep, beep, boop. Now who they give the ideas and they make them, they manifest them. You want to know what's really gonna be manifested? Things like Star Wars, things like traveling outside of the space. They're already trying to do this, man. Innovation, bro. Innovation, evolution, it's part of the process.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

What you gotta say, Mr. Green?

SPEAKER_02 41:46

He wanna he got he he liked a rebuttal. He got something to say against everything that you gotta say, Mr. I wanna hear what all the facts.

SPEAKER_05 41:57

I disagree with the press.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

I disagree with the press. But listen, I disagree with the press. It's coming, guys. Bet on it. Bet on it. Like you can bet on crypto. Yeah, we got it. Taking over the dollar in the future.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Right, but back then, I didn't know that. Otherwise, I'd be rich right now.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

Bet on it. The digital age, man. It's only gonna get you think the dollar's gonna. Do you think that the paper money is gonna be forever? But do you fuck is this? Nah. But do you believe it?

SPEAKER_01 42:26

It wasn't an inevitable thing. But do you back then? But you're definitely gonna get rich. I couldn't foresee when crypto first came out that I was gonna get.

SPEAKER_02 42:34

Okay, well, this is the same situation with the AC. I can see it. Because I know who's in control. And as long as they remain in control. You can see a possibility. I don't know who's in control, but I know you just sat there and said on the show that the WEF is gonna be a reality. And guess what the WEF is gonna wanna do? What? They're gonna want to have a current a common currency. How you gonna get a common currency? It ain't gonna be by paper.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

I'll start by AI. I agree. It just doesn't make sense because we don't, most of the money that's spent around the world isn't actual physical currency. Like we've already swooped. We're past that. We've been past that.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

It's just creating a conceptual, it's conceptual currency.

SPEAKER_04 43:14

Yeah, we're just we're just now there are countries that are totally digital now. We're doing conceptual currency to a to a a non-physical physical currency. Because crypto is a non-physical, physical. It's it's physical because it's mine. It's it's something that it's it's a it's a resource. It's a resource. But yeah. But the the my no, what I was saying was it's like um it has to be mine, but it's non, it's not, it's not physical. AI is a pot is a is a is a possibility that can go wrong. Absolutely, Louie. But the thing we gotta do is, and like I told you, some of the steps to outsource it, we gotta stop creating the framework. We're creating a framework. If we don't put AI in everything, then it only has so much of a a sandbox to plan. But we're trying to put it in every fucking thing your watch, your phone, your glasses.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

Well, tell me this. Tell me one thing. That has been invented that hasn't been used and went wrong at some point, that they can use it for bad. You can use a car for wrong. Light bulbs. You can use an inner man. Light bulbs or been used. Listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about light bulbs. There's somebody that has killed somebody with a broken light bulb. I swear, I promise you, that there's somebody in the history of mankind that has killed somebody with a light bulb or that has taken a lamp that was plugged in and thrown in the water, a pool of water, and electrocuted somebody. So name one thing, name one thing. There's been cake that has been poisoned. There's been water that has been poisoned. There's been poison that the kids have choked on. There's the water or the air, it's the poison. Listen, listen. We just saying use for wrong. So what we whatever we're saying, it can be.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

No one's gonna willingly drink poison, but somebody will willingly eat cake. I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

No, wait. You somebody won't no no no somebody's not gonna willingly eat poison cake unless they're trying to commit suicide. Poison cake. Nobody's gonna uh willingly drink poison water if they're gonna take it, you know, unless they're trying to commit suicide. Usually it's what guns. Airplanes. Airplanes were used to travel and get people around. Now they were used in 2001 to drive into a building, man. Kamikazis in the war were used to die bomb suicidal Japanese air pilots to crash into other planes. That was meant for good. Quick air travel. Cars were meant for quick travel, but people run over people all the time. People crash into stores all the time. People die in cars all the time. Trains were meant for good. People hijack trains, trains run over people. Bad things come out of everything that's in this world.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

Agree?

SPEAKER_02 45:52

Grants for feeding hunger hunger. Listen, grants for feeding hunger were meant for positivity. But how many people have used that funding in the wrong ways? And all these mayors going to prisons for mishandling funds and presidents and things. What happened to all the money that went, they say disappeared when they were doing all those bailouts? Some of those monies disappeared, man. Let's think about it. I think. Just answer this. I'm waiting on you, bro. I'm asking you this question. Blast off the grizzly green. What has been invented that hasn't been used for bad? Let's just say nothing. Okay. So then my point is: why would you assume that AI is not gonna be on the same trajectory in some form? Somebody can design a robot to go shoot up a whole school in the future. Or go walk into school with a bomb strapped to him in the future. I think the key thing is. I think the key thing is it's human nature. I can foresee this.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

It's human nature. It's human nature. But here's the thing, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:56

We gotta have sense, man. It's gonna happen, bro. But see, that the your the cowards use guns to kill people. You're using that. If they got not gonna use a robot to come in here? Oh, Grizzly Green over there. But see, going in with a real-time fuck ass and drive my little drone over there.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

But see, the argument you're using the same argument for people for anti-guns. Like, people are gonna bad bad people are gonna do bad things.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

I'm not in and I'm not I'm not against what you're saying. Bad people are gonna stab you. If they take away guns, they're gonna stab you to death.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Bad people are gonna do bad things. So try to- Bad people by definition are bad. Right. So, by that standpoint, like you can't attribute that to like that. Well, that's the reason why AI is a problem, no? Like, if that's the case, we shouldn't have any inventions. Somebody, somebody bad is gonna use any type of new invention to cause harm and hurt.

SPEAKER_01 47:47

Which is why AI is, to me, something that has to be approached with caution. Nah.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

Because AI It does, absolutely does.

SPEAKER_03 47:58

It has to be approached with caution.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

By definition, in the ideal world that they're trying to create, it has its own autonomy.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

So it's gonna behave in a way that you that that it's not tied to humans anymore. It does its own thing. It's alien, it's an alien, it's a digital alien. I want to ask Grizzly. I want to ask Grizzly. First of all, we gotta get a backdrop because folks don't know who you are. We want to know your backdrop.

SPEAKER_04 48:21

You know about the use where I came from and get a bigger.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You gotta do that. But we gotta get your backstory because we just we just came on live firing and we forgot to give everybody who is Grizzly Green. But one thing I'm gonna say before we get into that is why don't you think AI has to be handled responsibly, my brother? Why don't you think that these people gotta have maturity and responsibility and think about the well-being of the human race with artificial intelligence? Why don't you think it has to be handled responsibly? Because it can be handled irresponsibly.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

So I I knew that's pure, I say that pure.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

I like this guy. He just likes the shock value. He likes this, he gets good, he's good for your coach. He got nothing to say, though. He says some stuff that's just like for shock value, because I don't believe he believes this shit himself. He don't believe some of the shit that comes out of his mouth. I believe some of the stuff he does, because I I I gotta I gotta I gotta gauge on the guy, but he's a shock value guy. He's a he's a he's a he's a diabolical guy too, though. He'll say stuff just to say you know what I'm saying? But go ahead. Why do you feel like that way, bro?

SPEAKER_04 49:26

Because we've never done that in human history before. We've never went on with the with the with the training wheels. We went full blast with everything and we learned along the way. We may lose a finger here. Betsy may lose her hair and go bald, but we we that's not that's not how we do it.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

But we never created life either. We never created a separate life from us. AI is not life. Humanity. AI is not life.

SPEAKER_04 49:46

It's artificial life. It's artificial life. It's artificial intelligence.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

I'm gonna tell you. It's a different intelligence life.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

Good, good, good. It's artificial intelligence, which once again can act on its own. By definition, it can have its own motives, its own reasonings, its own things. The guys who create this stuff say sometimes it coached it. We don't we don't understand what it's doing. So are we gonna go by the wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_04 50:07

Let's clear up the muddy water. This muddy water. Let's clear up muddy water. Are we doing the scientific life or are we just doing life? Because scientific life, there's there's there's that's the reason why I said AI is not life. The scientific version of life, it has to, um, it has to breed. Meaning it has to self-replicate replicate.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

What do you call a liger?

SPEAKER_04 50:27

Or a ligon or a taigon? It's a it's a it's that artificial scientifically no, it's it's a it's a it's a genetic dead end. But is that what I'm saying? Is that scientifically?

SPEAKER_01 50:36

I say it's a genetic dead end.

SPEAKER_04 50:38

But is that scientific life?

SPEAKER_01 50:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

Yes. Okay. But because of course, but because it also it takes in energy, it uses energy, it uses the stuff right like that the AI doesn't initially do that. So, like, if you break down, it's it's it's reproduced itself, right? Um, it has to have some on some form of will.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

AI doesn't have will. We don't know that. We don't know if it has will or not. A guys that we're trying to create, artificial general intelligence is supposed to have its own motives and be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Yeah, but will but it's so so where does will tie into intelligence? Knowing something doesn't give you the will to do something.

SPEAKER_01 51:15

Will ties into its ability to self-replicate at the core, at the bottom level, will is the ability to either self-preserve or self-replicate. So every action you do through will, in my opinion, is tied to your self-preservation or your self-replication.

SPEAKER_04 52:19

AI doesn't fall under the classical standpoint of life in in in science. Are we following that or are we just doing life? Because AI, artificial, absolutely, right? It has intelligence. We can even give it a point where it has agency of its own, right? But it still doesn't mean it's alive. Um you're talking about genetic dead ends, like you have zonkies and and mules and stuff like that, right? Um mules, that's crazy. It it still counts as life because it has all the parts meant to rope repro uh to reproduce or recreate. It it it's it's it's not meant to be there.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

So let's imagine I'm the engineer of the human race. I'm an engineer of all life, me personally. Okay. All life on earth. What I engineered engineered something like a ligon or a tiger, a liger or a tigon. That's my isn't that still part of my creation? Because what I created, created. Right? Isn't that part of if I make a human a human makes artificial intelligence and that these artificial intelligence is gonna have artificial wounds and they can carry a child a term and whatever, is that a plan with me? Or is that or or or is that my fruits or my what I create?

SPEAKER_04 53:44

I can't really argue that because my mind automatically goes to now we're talking about a God and I'm I I I said engineer.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

I know. But you you you're reading between the lines.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

Well, I I'm because I'm giving you what exactly.

SPEAKER_02 53:56

But to answer the question though, regardless if it's about God or not, what would you consider that?

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Would that be Absolutely not? That's like saying because you uh you have a son and your son does something, do you get credit for what your son does?

SPEAKER_02 54:08

And he's is he a fruit of me? Is he a root of my tree? Is he a fruit of my tree?

SPEAKER_04 54:13

So if your son becomes a president, does it that does that make you president? Does that make you have presidential?

SPEAKER_02 54:18

Does that mean that I've spawned the shit? No. So so your son goes to jail, does it make you a felon? So by your leading. I put minerals in the earth.

SPEAKER_04 54:26

Does your if your son goes to jail, does that make you a felon?

SPEAKER_02 54:29

No, no, you're talking about direct. If I if if I breed, if I have a son, he kills somebody, does that make me a murderer? That's the same thing. No. Yes. That's what you're saying. But what I'm saying is, no, no. Did I say, first of all, I didn't say anything. If I if I have a son and he becomes an NFL player, did I have a did I breed an NFL player? Is that NFL player related to my DNA?

SPEAKER_01 54:51

To be honest, Mr. Green, there's a lot of people who throughout history, especially like royal bloodlines, they've like bred because they wanted their families to have certain traits. Right. Want their families to have certain traits.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

A woman will go for a lot of women like tall guys.

SPEAKER_04 55:04

Right, but to go back to a tall children. But what you're saying is if somebody that you're the engineer of life and humans made AI, that that do they're are they less than the human, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:16

No, do I get credit for I created this from scratch, from nothing. And then look at my course. And so I planted a seed and it grow into a tree and it bear fruit.

SPEAKER_01 55:26

It's called the family tree. Yeah. I'm not the roots to the thing. I don't understand the question.

SPEAKER_02 55:31

I'm gonna just say no. So here go the thing. That's because you just the anti-guy.

SPEAKER_04 55:35

No, because if I don't understand it, I'm not about to go with anything I don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 55:38

So I'm gonna automatically say no until I understand it. So okay, we're not gonna dwell on that because we got a lot of other topics. Okay. I mean I kind of want to touch back on this whole train situation with the girl because they have another lady, a 19-year-old black lady that died the same day. Oh, was her body was found the same day. Um, I can't remember her name. Maybe somebody can check it up. But she was she was killed by an immigrant and they find she was missing and they found her body. Black girl though. Nobody now if this was now the outrage is not the same. Still somebody lost their life. Immigrant took the girl's life. Let's be clear. But nobody, wait, wait, nobody's sitting there. But if now, if this was the Ukrainian girl found killed by the immigrant, the outrage would be more. No. Yes, it would, brother. No. Yes, it would, brother. No. Oh, that's why these immigrants need to go. That's why they need to go. This is why yes, brother. Wait, wait, wait. I didn't hear your question. So, okay, the young, first of all, everybody entertained. This girl, this Irania girl, Iran, Irina, I forgot her, I don't know her name. Beautiful girl. Beautiful young lady. Beautiful young lady. But she was she was killing her. But in that, in that arose. Stop her there. Stop her. Let me finish. I can't. I can't.

SPEAKER_04 56:57

Because your point is. Let me finish my point. But let me finish. But no, no, no, no, no. You've been cutting me off all day, brother. There's context. The reason why I say no is because there was no outrage for this. You know how old that situation was? That didn't happen. The Iranian girl didn't just happen. It was a week ago. No, it happened longer than that.

SPEAKER_02 57:13

But it happened on the same date. Listen to what I'm saying. But it but the girl was found on the same date. You know why? You want to know why they brought it up?

SPEAKER_04 57:21

You want to know about it up? Wasn't because it's a black guy. You want to know why they brought it up? Yes or no?

SPEAKER_03 57:27

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 57:28

You already said the president, if he didn't say anything, if you look across before he said anything, no news across any network said anything about it whatsoever. Not left-leaning, not right-leaning. The president said something and made a post, and that's what everybody jumped on. That's why I said if it had been a black girl or it had been if it had been the same situation. I didn't see the point if the president made a post about it. I hear you. That Iranian, if she got killed by another immigrant, it would have flown because part mostly on the left side, way mostly, they don't want to give any negative to any type of immigrant. So no, they wouldn't say anything.

SPEAKER_02 58:10

Listen, listen. This guy, this guy, this guy.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

Let me finish my point. People and black folks don't fucking need it.

SPEAKER_02 58:21

Let me finish my point now, bro. Go for it. Come on. It wouldn't have been the same. It would have been ignored. It would have been large ignored. It would have been just another murder, and people like, oh, this is enough, and now this is we need to stop crime in whatever state. This is going crazy. Or they would have been like the guy mentally ill. This guy had had for this. Come on. This guy had had 14 prior arrests. That's a system problem. It's not a racial problem. It's a systemic problem. They're saying the judges were not even previous prior lawyers. They just were appointed judges. They did whatever they had to do to be appointed judges. Maybe they ran for judge. I don't know what their background is on a lot of these, how they do. And they're saying that these people were not previous lawyers. I don't think you should be a judge if you don't know, if you haven't been a lawyer or a prosecutor or something of that nature. I think a prosecutor, yeah, or a lawyer, you should be able to be a judge and be able to run for judge. But if you don't have any, they say you don't even have to take a bar exam to be a judge. So my point, all I'm saying is it wouldn't have been as severe had the roles been reversed, man. It wasn't that severe until the president said something.

SPEAKER_03 59:27

But they but I I want to say that they said something.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

The president wouldn't have said nothing. Do you think he would have said something? Within Do you think wait? Do you think he would have said something? Had it been the role. So you think that if the brother would have killed the lady on the train, he would have said something. Yes. You're kidding yourself. No, no. He's kidding yourself. But I want to. I'm actually going to say that the president would have said something. No, I got something to say though.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

I say yes. Within the conversation. And I say Chicago to defend it. And that's it.

SPEAKER_02 59:58

Within? But he didn't have anything to do. That wasn't in Chicago.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:01

No, but he's he's going after Chicago. It ain't nothing but niggas killing niggas in Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:05

But what I'm saying is, do you think he would have said the story of the black girl on the train getting a throat slip by the mentally? I think he would have really. Let me let me let me guys hear this, right? Let me bless me. Let me say something.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

Within within with this guy is just the stockbag you got.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

Let me have the stock that you got.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:30

I gave proof. I gave him the first niggas and switches. We finna put the first escape.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

We finna load the first escape home and I ship this guy's ass up out of here. This finna make the earth. I'm sick of this guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

I'll come right off the back.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

I'm sick of this guy, man. He's doing a bunch of moves.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:53

I already got the coordinates, big dogs. I already got the coordinates, big dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

I'm gonna say one thing though. Within Western society, uh uh, what is the most valuable human being in Western society?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:05

It's the white, blonde, blue-eyed woman. The white, blonde, blue-eyed woman. I'm not gonna say it again.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

She's the most valuable. So when a nigga kills the princess from Frozen, of course the president can use it as the ammunition he needs to say whatever the fuck he wants to say.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

I I I feel you. I 100% can I on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

If she's been Spanish, it might have he might not have even looked at it. If you've been Asian, he might not have said something. If she's been black, he damn sure wouldn't have said nothing. But you just file the pure snow of the Arctic Ukrainian guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

If you guys have watched that video, that guy's meant to be black. The guy was talking to himself. Can I twist the button? But anytime, but anytime somebody somebody goes to shoot up a movie theater, or shoot up an elementary school, which they say that was a psyop, or uh, uh, uh, or shoot up a grocery store in Buffalo, New York, it's mentally unstable. But they can find writings and manifestos of people that love it! I love it. They plant this out and they can find this, but these guys are automatically laid labeled mentally unstable. But a guy that has 14 freaking convictions, and his own mother said, this guy needs to be locked up. He's had assault charges against his mom, his sisters. This guy should have never been on the streets. The system. It's a systemic problem. If you do wrong, go to jail, go to prison, get electric, whatever the system punishes. Take your you do the crime. It's a systemic problem. It's not a racial problem. Lock up all the bad guys. But you can twist whatever narrative is. They gonna twist it and make it because that's what they want. You know what? I've always rock with Elon Musk, man, as far as but I'm starting to see that these guys are pushing a fucking narrative. Who? Elon Musk.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:57

Elon, gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:58

I don't care what his name. Elon, Elon, Tesla, Mr. Tesla, man. What okay, what do you mean? But now if he's coming with a part-time South Africa rhetoric, I don't want it. What, what, what? I don't want it. And then people talking about he should run for president, it will never happen. Well, no, you gotta be able to do that. Anybody all these racists and all you freaking you you smite supremacist, it will never look at me. Well, he has to. Listen, wait, time out. It will never happen. He's not American born. Nobody from foreign land can become president of the United States. That's let me let me set you guys straight that say this old crap. That's that say this. It will never happen. Unless they do like they're doing with laws and they're fit. I don't see them fitting the law to make an foreign-born apartheid, post apartheid baby the president of the United States. What do you think with the American people?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

What is the racist rhetoric that Elon is is now saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

To share, okay. Let me let me share one with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:56

I I I'm honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, that's why I'm asking.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

So here goes one. Let me show you one. I'm gonna show you something. I'm gonna get on my phone. I hate to get on my phone. We're gonna post the clip. We're gonna post the clip. And we're gonna post the clip at the right time. We're gonna post the clip. Matter of fact, I'm gonna post the clip. And let me show you something. Let me show you something. Okay, so here we go. This is one that was shared by the by by himself. Okay. I saved it. Matter of fact, I sent it to myself. I sent it to myself. Here it is. I matter of fact, I texted myself because I wanted to uh that that your computer's doing something, girl. The screen just went out. Okay, that's no problem. Uh basically matter of fact, here it is. I got you right here, bro. Uh-oh. Yeah, he wants to see himself. Oh, okay. Email myself. Man, I can't find a damn give me the gist. Here go the thing. The gist is there was a post said and saying that because of what happened on that train is a reason why there should be massive overhaul and any and and whatever the solutions are, let them solutions be what they are. And that that leaves place in your mind to say, well, hey, that leaves room for thought, like, well, maybe we should just get rid of them, or what should it we lock them all up or we should ship them all out. Whatever the case is, you share that rhetoric knowing that you have the power of the platform, you are the leader of this platform, you're the owner of this platform, and then you share that that same rhetoric that someone spewed out. This is why the problem is what the problem is. And then you spew that that that that that that that rhetoric.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:51

I'm still trying to figure out what but what's bad. The system does need to be overhauled.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:55

Listen, no, this is what I'm saying, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

The system don't need to be overhauled. The system being what it is, is the same reason why we had that whole debate about Charlie Kirk and the statistics. That's the reason why. Is the system is busted.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

That's why it's accurate.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

Listen, the the thing, the thing, but what he's saying is, but this isn't an issue related to race, it's a systemic, it's a issue related to race.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

It's a systemic. He don't need to be married. As a leader, as a leader, you have a great responsibility. With great power comes great responsibility. These people are playing God that are so fucking rich. I'm trying to figure out how. Playing God, how. If you if you own a platform and you can have the power to sit there and say a whole lot of people, a whole group of people or racial people are the problem in this world, period. And maybe we just may need to wipe them out. He said that. He shared rhetoric that's suggests that. Suggestive rhetoric. He said he's saying some suggestive rhetoric that says it's a massive problem and whatever the solution is.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:58

We have to see the paint. We have to see the paint. Listen. That's dog whistling. And I don't I don't do dog whistling. I don't do I gotta stretch across across the ravine to get to your point. That is a stretch, my brother. He says something that somebody else could take out of context, big fucking whoop. Like you you can't see, this is what I mean when I say-told everything. That's what I'm saying. That's why I say, like, I'm a big proponent of free speech. Let him say whatever he wants. If it's mind you, it can even be categorically racist. I'm a part of it, free speech. That is free speech. But if he's saying something that somebody can interpret it and go left wing, right wing, go, go, go nuts with it, that's on the psychopath. That's not on him. You telling me that everybody um that has uh that that that that has the opportunity to speak needs to watch what they say? No, I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

You know, uh this is something that was shared.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:52

Conservative pundits than they are on the other hand.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:53

By Matt Walsh. I'm gonna just play it on the mic.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:55

If we hear from the media, listen, just wait. We're gonna post it right here. They are not angry that this woman was killed. And they couldn't care less. They wouldn't even be talking about it if they if they had their way. Instead, they're outraged by the racism, quote unquote, of conservatives who have noticed that the murders are happening. And we hear from Van Jones that we can't say for sure whether that black criminal killed Arena because she was white. We can't say that for sure, so just for you. The media can say for sure that it's racist to say things about a black guy who killed a white woman. But they can't say for sure that it's racist for a black guy to actually kill a white woman. So the murder is not racist necessarily commentary about the murder. Well, that is racist. This is coming from all the same people declared from the first moment that George Floyd went viral that it was a racist hate crime. There was nothing in that video, not a single thing. Any kind of racial motivation whatsoever. Automatically, it's a racist killing. It's a uh mental health episode. This is what these soulless goblins expect us to believe in. Listen, here's here's what here's what we know, okay? Here's what we know. Statistically, a white person is 30 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person. We know that, that's just true. In 2019, there were about 560,000 violent generational incidents between blacks and whites. 470,000 of them were black and white. That's 85 percent. 85 percent 240 black people were killed by whites, 560 white people were killed by blacks, and this is all despite the fact that white people make up 60% of the population, blacks and 13%. Just by raw numbers, not even per capita. Wrong numbers. There are more black interracial killers than white. That is extraordinary. That's that's like impossible. That shouldn't be impossible. There are 171 million more white people in the country, and yet there are more black interracial killers by raw numbers. That kind of disparity should be impossible. And yet it's real, it's happening. Per capita, the situation is even more dire. Black people, young black males in particular, are in order of magnitude more violent and more likely to commit crimes than any other group in the country. Black men are five. They commit the majority of murders in the country. That makes black males in America more dangerous than perhaps any other demographic in the entire world, let alone in this country. And we know all this despite the efforts by the FBI and every other institution to hide and bury racial crime statistics. Imagine how much worse it really is. Imagine how grisly it would look if they let us see the whole picture instead of just pieces of it. But we can see enough to know without any doubt whatsoever that the violent crime epidemic is driven by one demographic to an overwhelmingly disproportionate degree. And all of that uh has happened while you, Van, and your propaganda's cohort have spent years claiming that the reality is exactly the opposite of this. You didn't just deny that this is happening, you have the gall to claim that the opposite is happening. You paint a picture of a country where black people walk around in fear, trembling in fear of white violence, where black people are constantly tired and exhausted by the brutality inflicted upon them by the villainous whites. But those of us who you condemn as racists, we're the ones who are tired. We are tired of not being able to walk down the streets in our own cities. We are tired of losing good, productive citizens at the hands of violent degenerates who contribute nothing of value to society whatsoever. We are tired of the total lack of accountability and responsibility. We are tired of a system that prioritizes the restoration and rehabilitation of violent psychopaths over the protection of innocent, law-abiding people. And we are tired of pretending that all of this isn't happening. And we're just not gonna pretend it.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:41

Now, now, and going back on that, we just heard that everybody just heard the video. I played the whole video, and what Elon said, his quote after sharing the video, he shared the video. Time for massive in all caps, massive change in America. What does that look like? That's my question. And so, so wait, so wait, let me finish, brother. Because I played this video to say something. Because I didn't want to be misquoted and everybody's like, you want a context, he wanted context, and you don't want to be misquoting somebody or whatever the word he used towards that. The point I'm making is with great power comes great responsibility. You share a video like that, you stoke fires. You stoke fires in people that didn't have fires. You stoked, but when when when he wants to reference the James, the George Floyd video, that guy and that guy had a had a had a tension. If you read the backstory on that, that guy had tension with George Floyd prior to that killing. Or whatever George Floyd dying. I'm not gonna say he was on fit and all or not, I don't know. But I know that a law enforcement shouldn't be on camera kneeling on somebody's neck. Yeah you shouldn't be doing that, bro. So you're in a law enforcement, you're a person in power. This young lady, she had no power. She had no power. She was sitting there innocently rotten her phone. And this guy started shaking, talking. Watch, if y'all can find the whole video, watch the video of the lady, she just shaking. I mean, she's sitting there watching the phone, the guy behind himself, he's seemingly talking to himself. And he shakes and then he he he gets he does that dumb stuff. He's obviously something wrong. He even mentioned, and this guy Matt Walsh mentioned in the video, it's a systemic problem. Towards the end of it, it's a systemic problem. It's not so how are you gonna say racialness?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:26

Now, right there is where I was gonna say, because you're going a rate uh uh a stretch, because when you say that and when he ended it off towards the end, is a systemic problem that we gotta deal with. And you have Elon saying that we gotta overhaul it. To me, it's overhauling the system. Be direct though with what you say. Because you have people No, no, no, no, wait.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:44

I'm not saying that. That's the thing. I don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

You're not acting that's if you're a mistake, if you're gonna snap that video at the beginning, when I'm gonna pair that video. The beginning of this, when I couldn't wait to say something. Let me not say something because I can't give a point out on my own damn show. This is a real tough podcast. And this guy's gonna get booted off this show right now with the airplanes and the spaceships. Sit me off. Send me off, goddammit. Go ahead, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:10

But this is exactly what I'm saying. These are the fears that you gotta you can't live your life by. This is the same thing when I said when Trump was getting office. That's a fear that you're you're expecting somebody to take it that way. They can I can say, God bless America, and somebody can take that the wrong way and go shoot up a school. At some point, you're gonna have to realize that we have problems that we have to deal with that regardless of what was said or who does, if we don't deal with it first, then it's never gonna get better.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:38

You're ignoring the problem. What's the problem? The problem is the subliminal writing on the wall of what these people are saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:47

So you're saying he's attentional.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

If he's showing statistics, he's he sent he said the message. He's spewing out numbers from 2019 that ain't proven, and he ain't even showing the exonerations of all these, some of this stuff is not 85,000 something more, whatever number he said, that was a crazy number if it was true. But everything is not reported. Everything is not, if you're 117 more million or 70 million more of this population than it is this 13%, and you wanna you you can't sit there and show these exaggerated numbers because I'm gonna believe that they're exaggerated and from 2019. Can we see the 2020s, 2021, 2020? They always going back to a time where maybe it was turmoil and tumultuous and these things. Where about the 2021 numbers? What about the 2020 numbers? What about the 2022 numbers? Why are we going back to a reference in a tough point in time to make it like this is what it is now? And if there was and the case in 2019, that was crazy. I don't believe, I believe that it's exaggerated, but if there was the case in point, that's crazy. But the point I'm trying to make is to sit there and then put everybody in a box. When you go to the grocery store and and and Mr. Jerome holds the door for you and your mother, and y'all don't can't, all right, y'all have a blessed day. Wish you a blessed day. When you drop your wallet and Mr. Jerome walks up to you, or Miss Candice walks up to you and hands you wallet, or Maria gives you, you know, your your kid dropped his his his his you know his phone and Miss Maria calls you, calls the number in the phone, or you call the phone and she asks, Oh, I got your phone here, or I got your ID here. What about daily life?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

What you're saying is Elon should have been more careful too.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:30

He should have been more. If you got you can't just you can't just say, Yeah, it is time for massive change after what this guy said, and I say, hey, define what you mean. Go into context of what you mean, because then you leave go for.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:41

Everybody asked Obama when he said we're running on change. But we ain't care. We don't care about Obama. He said, but we don't care. This I'm not pro-Obama. I'm not saying I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is wrong. What I'm saying. What I'm saying is, is you're again, this is a stretch. You're you're doing a stretch, my brother. You gotta give up on it. Wait, Tom, no, I don't have to give up on what I believe to be true. You're gonna be naive, man. You're assuming that he's we know what he says.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:09

We know what he means. You can go what does he mean? He means that there is a systemic problem, there's a racial problem, and it's in context, two things can be true at the same time. So, where do you get it? So that guy could have been crazy. How do you know that racism? And listen, it could two things can be true at the same time. It could have been uh he killed her because she was white, and it could be true that he's mentally disabled. So he's mentally unstable, and he also heard voices in his head, or if he heard voices or whatever the case was, he killed her because of her color. Because normal people ain't finna sit on a train and just slit an innocent woman's throat because of her color. It's not something normal to do. And then have four a normal person is not gonna have 14 prior arrests. The system failed. That's a system problem. System failed to make it. They took away as items in America.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:56

And here exactly, here comes Elon Musk.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:58

We need a mass overhaul. And you're immediately saying racist dog wisdom. But when you don't clarify yourself, I'm asking, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

If you don't clarify yourself, we need room for interpretation. Misinterpretation.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:11

And that's a perfect example why you gotta let that go, brother. You you you can't do it. I'm saying you're on the wrong side of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

If you don't clarify yourself, then this is what I'm just I'm just clearing up for me. You're asking for You're understanding for right, right? You understand for what he said.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:30

I understood for what he said. If you if people want to misinterpret shit, that's their thing. You're just wrong for it. What you're asking for? You're asking for people to walk on eggshells, and I will never ask that. Say what you say, and then people take it wrong, take it fucking wrong.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:45

So so here's my Elon Musk doesn't automatically go to race.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:51

But that's the stress you want to do. Why time for massive taint?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:57

Why did Elon Musk taint?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:01

Which is another word, one extra word in the sentence, would have clarified everything. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:06

Time for you feel the need to share that specific video. There are a hundred videos that could have made a better point. Why that video? Because when I heard it, I heard what you heard, which is like these people are dangerous. Yo, y'all gotta watch out.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:19

Oh no, Matt Walsh, Matt Walsh is a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:25

They're not walking, he's not walking on eggshells. I appreciate that about his videos.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:29

I love that. Oh, I love that. Because that means I get to define because I can dictate dictate how I want to operate with you.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:36

I love when people I know as a black man, I know that when he's speaking that those words, even though I'm gonna hear them, the white person's gonna hear it and they're gonna go, yeah, I'm I'm with him, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:48

So do y'all understand? Elon to share that. Do y'all understand that Elon isn't like us?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:54

Yeah, 90% of Hollywood isn't like us. No, no, no. 90% of wealthy people that want to defend is not like us.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:01

He's not like them either.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:03

Well, you you know Elon. You tell us who Elon is. Elon, you tell us who Elon is. You tell us, you know. First of all, can we get your backstory?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:12

Elon is not Elon is disabled. Elon's not neurotypical.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:17

That nigga's special ed. Okay. So You got a special ed person. That's very dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:24

Special ed person talking about special, you know, mentally disabled people.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:28

It's it's it's it's not dangerous when you're giving credence to that guy for being disabled. Agreed. Wait, so here's the thing. It's not the we call it disabled because it's not the same as us. And hit where it hits him, it it it's it's the reason why he he learns the way he learns. It's the reason why he's intelligent. It's the reason why he's intelligent. I like that. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:50

I mean, he might be autistic or something. Right. So he's not he so the difference they autistic people.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:57

Have you ever worked with any, like, like dealt with them in a long stance of time with with the with any type of any of them like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:04

Yeah, they got special talents.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:05

Well, not only that, but they they they don't process. When you when you're hanging around them, you realize that they're processing, they don't go through the same common sense logical, like, don't touch that, that's hot, or that might be heavy. They their brain, it's different. So that's the reason why.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:25

We want to know what is your definition of Elon? You know it.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:28

No, that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm telling you. So you can't say because, okay, Matt Walsh is doing some flagrant borderline race baiting shit, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:37

So if I shared Hitler, you're gonna be if I said and say, and he said some stuff, and I say it exactly. You're gonna say, I'm gonna sympathize with Hitler and his rhetoric, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:45

I'm gonna say that you're sympathizing with Hitler. Meinkopf's a great book you should read. Did that make me sympathizer with Hitler?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:50

I I I said my own self. Meinkopf has a is a great book. That's a lot I don't fool with, but maybe a trying to predict.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:04

But does that make me a Hitler sympathizer by saying Meinkopf's a great book? No. So how does me saying that him taking something that and I all I'm doing is I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not wanting to say this is it whatsoever. What I'm saying is we gotta stop putting emphasis or giving credence to shit that we don't know. That's what they meant. We have no clue what that meant. That's why I went when I said was Elon doesn't process shit the way we do. That nigga's mentally handicapped.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:29

He didn't say that. Matt Walsh said that.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:32

What he's saying is when Elon, what he says is when Elon Musk is. Well I'm saying his processing is different when there's there's massive changes that need to be made. So what's Matt? That's what he said. So what is the definition? What is the difference?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:43

What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is I'm giving the I'm giving the ability, I'm giving the room that if Elon might be possible, because you don't know what he's trying to, what he was trying to say with that. You're automatically saying that he's quietly dog whistling for race.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

I never said that. I said that he didn't give context and clearance. He doesn't need to. Well, for people like me, you need to. No, if I say, if I go into a mall and I yell out, man, I'm gonna shoot, I'm gonna shoot these motherfuckers. People are gonna stop. What are you talking about? You're talking about me? No, I might have said, I might have been angry yelling out, I'm gonna shoot somebody somewhere totally different, not even related to the mall. And you're gonna get away from the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:26

But if you say that, if you shout fire in a building, people are gonna run.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:30

If you shout bomb in a building, people are gonna run. Right. If you shout bomb on a plane, the U.S. Marshals are gonna arrest you. What I'm saying is You gotta give context to what you say. You do not get to say it happens all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:39

You don't have to get context when it's something.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:41

So then why is Derek Chauvin in prison then? Because they know so you're why is Derek Chauvin in prison then? I have no clue who Derek Chauvin is. He's the guy that kneeled on George Floyd's neck, brother. Why is he in prison then?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:53

Um, I'm assuming because they they filed him for uh killing George Floyd.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:57

But what's his context? What's his context to it? He don't have to give context, so he's in prison because there is no context, true context, to what he did.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:04

That's the difference because there's a life was lost. What he said, what he said was he made a statement. The reason why there doesn't need to be context is because you're giving so one is the internet. First of all, the internet's not real. People take way too much off the internet as fucking gospel. That's that's rule, that's rule problem number one. That's rule number one.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:24

You lick it up. When a dog barks, you look take it for a dog. What? If a dog barks, you know it's a dog. If a cat meows, you know it's a cat. If I say meow, you know I'm trying to imitate a cat.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:36

This is why I say you're saying it's a dog whistle, because every time I try to give you the benefit of the doubt of saying it's not, you say some shit like that. To you, without context, what did Elon say? Why don't we just cut the butt?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:47

He didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:48

Okay, sometimes you don't have to say anything. So, what's the problem?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:51

So if I seen Elon do this at the National Convention, Republican Convention or whatever. Didn't do that. He did this. He did do this. He didn't do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:00

He did this, he did this. My heart goes out to you, and then he did this.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:04

Tomato tomato, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:06

That's the reason why you don't need context. Niggas like you. Niggas like you. Because no matter the amount of context I give you, you're gonna have a problem with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:16

My heart goes out to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:17

Tell about, tell about, listen.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:18

And move and walked away from Mike and did that.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:20

Listen, who's ever done that? Who's ever done that? My heart goes out to you. Regardless. And I'm not the only one that had made national news. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:36

Trump went to uh the square garden where Nat or literal Nazi uh propagandists were held and they tried to that's what I'm saying. You gotta give it up. Oh man, listen, listen.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:48

This is why you gotta give it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

Everybody out here in this in in in that's viewing this show hand there.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:53

This is all I'm saying. Everything is smoking mirrors, the internet's not real. Stop looking for shit to be shit, take it as face value until something else comes up.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:01

So when I see someone do a Nazi that could be misinterpreted as a Nazi salute, okay, I can wait to buy. He didn't mean that. He just meant what he said. My heart goes out to you. That's my heart goes out to you. That's what I, you know. But regardless, we're not gonna do that. But what I'm saying, when you combine that with the statistics, with the rhetorics, with the sharing of this misinformation, or the sharing of, hey, these people are a problem. My opinion and uh uh millions of other people's opinions. I'm in I'm in another group that's saying this misinformation.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:29

The books will match that. That's the only thing. Until we get uh, and again, this is. This goes back to what he said. Listen, we need it's a systemic problem. It's not even reformed. We need, like you said, uh sane asylums. We need that. We need more police, we need less police interaction with regular people, because that's like we don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:49

What happened to the three-strike rule? How you get 14 different times because that's not released 14 different times. And then they already have identified that. Three strikes is only in my state. Schizophrenic. Three strikes strikes is only in my state. They say it's schizophrenic. They're saying that it's schizophrenic. It's in Texas too. They got a law against Texas. They got three strikes and Texas. They got a three-strike rule in Texas about certain crimes. It's schizophrenic. Schizophrenic. You know this guy's schizophrenic. He's not on his medicine. You ain't put him on no kind of Right, but but Trump doesn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:18

He ain't looking that deep.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:20

He's older, he's an older guy, he's older.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:21

Trump ain't gonna look that deep.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:23

Trump is not, let me tell you something, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:24

I'm gonna say this right now. Who knows who's actually posting on behalf of Trump? Listen. Because you know Trump ain't posting most of this stuff. It's somebody one of his employees doing it.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:33

Exactly. Because they can't do it. But you know what? But I'm gonna tell you this though. I'm gonna tell you what. Only person that could have did that, if it wasn't Trump, if it wasn't Trump didn't say, hey, post this for me, was probably Barron. That's the only because nobody else gonna get. But in trouble, you can't just go on the president's Twitter and post anything. So maybe let's. I'm I ain't saying young, I'm not it's I don't want no controversy. I'm not saying that young brother did that. I'm just saying that it got, I'm just giving an attitude that he would be the only person. Nah, all I'm saying is allegedly listen, man. I ain't scared of first of all. Listen, I'ma stand up and stand tall for anything. I'ma stand what's right and wrong, good and evil. So if it's Baron or Trump or whoever, if you're wrong, you're wrong. I don't give a fuck. And that's the truth. I ain't say, hey, come get me, take me out, snipe me, whatever. I'm not asking for that, but I'm just saying, at least I'm following what I believe. You can be a coward and say what you want. This is free speech. I'm not saying any of that happened. All I'm saying is, is that this, when you got that kind of power, you have to be able to be money, you gotta be the level-headed person in the room. You gotta be able to control that narrative. You gotta be able to control every narrative and every situation. When you got a means of people, listen, you have to control the narrative.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:40

You can't control it, you can minimize it, you can sit there and and so here's my so here's so so then what if yes, what if Elon just meant what he said and that he liked the video because he agreed with everything that he said? He comes from apartheid Africa and and that's bred into him. And it's like, yeah, you know what? If Elon could say, if Elon just came out and bluntly just said, yeah, you know what? Fuck it, blast off. That's what I'm I'm gonna say this. That's what I meant.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:06

And you're 100% right.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:07

It's subcon That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Audience, this is what I believe, but I'm not gonna say it as a thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

That's what I'm saying. I'm gonna just say it subtly, you know. That's what people with sense can sit there and say, like, well, look, you know what? He may be right, but you didn't clarify that. So you left room for people, you left room, you say, you say, he didn't clarify that, and he says, Yeah, and but that's the point. You might be talking about a piece of paper. Yeah, you do in America when you're in the massive. What you say is right. No, right. You don't have to do it right. That's the right of that's the first amendment. And that's the right. That's the first amendment. That's the point. That's the first amendment. But listen, he might be like, Yeah, I said it. But listen, who the fuck what? So you're carrying where you got to be room to misinterpret it. Guess what? Guess who Charlie Kirk was shot? Guess who Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk, the the the the punishment, he was shot today. Because why is he watching Charlie Kirk in the first place? No, listen. Charlie Kirk, listen, listen, listen, make sure something. Did you know Charlie Kirk was shot today, right? Are they gonna spread to that? Listen, yes, no, I know, I know, I know. You ain't got but listen, but guess who he was shot by? Are they gonna a white man? Who was Trump shot by? A white man? Who was Abraham Lincoln shot by? A white man, John F. Kennedy, a white man. So why is it now, would this be national coverage that the white on white crime needs to stop? And I'm I'm like, well, wait, wait, no, it won't. No, it won't. The white, the white murders and the white attempts and the crime statistics. You just had this guy shoot up. You just had this, you got people tired of Myron Gain, Myron, what's his name? Myron Gaines. You got people tired of that shit. You got people that just really want to get alone to get alone. Not just sit here and talk about racial statistics and things. I wanna be able to see my name. I want to be able to.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:48

Charlie Kirk has been shot and killed. He's dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:51

That's what it's by a white man, guys. Live. This is live. This is live. I'm gonna read. First of all, rest in peace, Charlie Kirk. Nobody should be in peace. Nobody should be killed. Nobody should be. I enjoyed, I enjoyed your media for what it was. But don't don't read it. I'm not gonna lie and say I enjoyed his media. I did. I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy that. I'm saying I enjoyed it. What it was. But before you read it, I know Charlie Kirk was parent.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:22

But but before you read it, before you read it, before you read it, the whole thing about um like clarifying and and and cleaning up and and and and saying stuff, the crazy thing is, is you don't have to in this grand scheme of things because at the end of the day, regardless of what happens, someone's always gonna take your shit and run with it. The bottom line. So no matter you you no matter how you you pim you prim and print, because the perfect I'll give you another example. You're not you done follow him, but I wonder, did you pay attention to anything that happened? Happened to uh Obama. His first time going in, they damn near told that man what color draws he had on every time he spoke. You you can be as prim as you want. People are gonna take what they want and skew it however they want. You can't control the narrative once it gets out. You can dress up, whatever, whatever, but once people get a hold of it, they can twist and and and and reshape anything you want.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:15

And there's a classic saying, there ain't no such thing as bad press. There ain't no such thing as bad press.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:23

No, it's not no such thing as bad press. Yeah, yeah, you know what, man, and that's the thing. We'll go back to the same thing when we said about Trump, man. People take it too far. Absolutely. You know, yes, there were people that would say he was an extremist, and guess what? That's gonna that's gonna put a lot of more people in fear. Let me tell you, all these people that are saying that stuff is either gonna ignite him or what? But guess what? You tried to put this narrative that the blacks are committing the crimes and it's the we the problem. But here you go, you got a guy that was saying this is how ironic is that? You're spewing black crime statistics, but yet instead you were killed by one of your own.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:00

Let's find I'm gonna see what I can find out about his shooter.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:03

It's crazy. Really? It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:06

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna read it.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:11

It's only crazy because of what the world is.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:15

I'm sorry, I mean 39 years old is definitely codified the pugnacious populist conservatism that has been taken over, that has taken over the Republican Party in the age of Trump. He launched it's hard without my glasses. He launched his organization, Turning Point USA, in 2012, targeting younger people and venturing into liberal-leaning college campuses where many GOP activists were nervous to tread. The shooter authorities still are still searching for the suspect. The mayor says the a person has been taken into custody at Utah Valley University was not the the person who was taken into suspect, the person who was taken into custody was not the suspect. According to a person familiar with the investigation, it was not authorized to speak publicly. It was not clear if the authorities were searching the campus for a suspect. The location Kirk was speaking at a debate hosted by TPUSA. The event at UVU has been met with divot with divided opinions on campus. An online petition calling for the university administrators to bar Kirk from appearing received nearly 1,000 signatures. The university issued a statement last week citing the First Amendment rights and affirming its commitment to free speech, intellectual inquiry, and constructive dialogue.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:45

So it sounds like the one guy that shot him signed that petition. They begged him not to come, they tried to get him from coming. Everybody don't want to hear it. It's in Utah. It's in Utah. We can kind of guess the demographic that may have committed it. We do not know. We do not know. The problem is it's been reported that he was killed by a shot by a Caucasian. And that was from the B. And if that is the case, that's just crazy ironic, live, while we're sitting there. No, that's so. New York Times! New York Times. Wait, hey, listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:12

New York Times says no suspect is in custody.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:19

Yeah. But they seen who shot him. Look, here go the problem. Here go the problem. It's not really ironic. Hey, hey, hey, listen, wait, time out, Eli. Excuse me, the president of the United States. Hey, time out. Hey, do you hear this guy? Hey, do y'all hear this guy? Wait, time out, guys. Wait, Eli, president. I'm sorry. No, no, but listen, just listen to me. I want you to tell me, I want you to tell me, honestly, truth. Do you not find that ironic that you about listen, President? Do you not find that this is ironic that you say about all these crime statistics about what the blacks and whatever do the Browns and committing the murders and this and that, but then you're killed by your own. Is that not ironic? Is that not?

SPEAKER_01 1:37:03

It needs to be officially said at this point we do not know anything about the shooter.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:08

Well, from what I've understood, from what I've read, that the shooter was Caucasian.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:11

We we don't as of uh as of right now, I'm reading it.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:15

It's good to confirm. It is a day. It is a day. We don't know. We don't know yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:21

If it was white, no. If it was black, it'd be ironic. If it if it's white, then no. Because it when you Wait, what is ironic?

SPEAKER_02 1:37:28

What is the definition of the reason why?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:29

Wait, wait, reason why Wait, what is the definition of ironic? Reason why it would be ironic is because that would prove his point.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:35

No, wouldn't it? Yeah, oh yes. Man, what are we doing what are we doing here? No, wait. This is not a Twilight Zone show. I know we're on Mars. I know it's not Iron. So things are not upside down. I know we're on Mars, but things are not upside down. Reality is reality. Brad, if I say that blacks are most known for rape, but then I get if I'm a white woman saying blacks are most known for rape, but then I get raped by a white man, is that not ironic?

SPEAKER_04 1:37:59

That's ironic because that's specific.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:00

It's the same thing. It's specific. Brother, can you help me? Can you help me?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:04

I agree with just the official narrative. For all we know, and that's for all this.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:17

Hey, you, you're hired, go shoot this guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:19

But why would they hire? But if if the if the narrative is true, if the narrative, but listen, wait, wait, come out. But if the narrative is true that he was killed by a Caucasian, what stoke what what what what narrative would they be able to push? Whatever narrative would be the problem. That would be the opposite. If it's a black person that killed him, that's pro that's trouble. That's trouble. That's when you should be wary. If it's a black person that killed him, then that would be the Syab. That would be the irony. Right? No, no. That would be the irony. No, no. No. No. When you say how ironic is it that you went around killing people and then you were killed yourself. That's ironic.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:58

Right. You don't say how ironic is it that you were peaceful. That's the irony.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:06

So when what so what would you call this then? What's the term for this then?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:09

Sad.

unknown 1:39:10

No, no.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:11

We're talking about dictionary terms.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:13

Sad? That's a dictionary word.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:15

Oh no. It's sad for someone to die anyway. And rest in peace for that, brother. If this is the case that this guy died, let's get serious for a moment because we caught up in emotions on the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:25

Personally, I watched him during the show. I can't lie. I didn't like him at all. I didn't like him at all. And I can't lie. He got super into politics and went over.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:35

Yeah, he was supposed to be a cool guy before that.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:37

He did the same shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:38

It seemed, okay, you know what? I did hear that. Like he was, he was on some no, he was on some other stuff before he got the story.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:43

He was on the exact same shit. No, bro. I before this election shit, all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:47

I give you a perfect example. Before this election shit, he ran real tough with three people. Um, the little Jewish motherfucker that runs with Matt Walsh. Um, I can't think of his name. Um, and what's the uh Candace Owens? They used to run real tight and be on the same shit. And I was with all of them up until a certain point because they've been doing this shit since 2013 or before. Because that's when this shit started. They started this shit back when it was like SJW and we started doing the whole saying the they them and the the the the trans community and the gay shit being pushed back into they started back then with this shit. When they started back then, I agree with a lot of shit they said because they were on it, they're against the the the the the uh ideology push that was getting pushed back then. But what I failed to agree with them on, um, and it's funny because we're gonna circle right back to it because it's commonplace. But Candace Owens was the biggest one that I had the issue with because she was black, and she was doing a whole lot of that that that that dancing for shit. And I was like, I agree with a lot of shit you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:48

She's just repeating the same topics that she that they were saying, though. But you had a problem with her.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:52

No, I had a problem with all of them. But I had a problem mainly with her because But why her? Instead of she repeating that I had a main problem with her. I'm better with her now because she realized at the end of the day, you're just a black bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:07

And it's like, oh, well, she had to take it took for her to get fired.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:10

And now she's actually starting.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:12

But people already were saying, wait, she's a child.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:13

But she's actually starting to eat. Well, she's starting to even out and balance.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:17

Even out, even out, yeah. Because before she was way, way too much. That's why, that's why I say she's a she's kind of a coon. She's kind of a coon, bro. Charlie Curtis. She's kind of a coon. I like Candace Owens, like you're saying, a since you got cut from them conservative stations, and you're like, oh yeah, by the way, I never like these people.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:33

By the way, I'm more I'm more I'm more conservative.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:36

She's better off now she was a coon before. You're a coon before because you're a dancer. Now that you see that that that shit that happened.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:41

To me though, when you when I see, when I see that you're when I see that your motivation and and and and your conviction changes once you get fired, then I'm like, okay, yeah, so you was never real in the first place.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:50

No, you were real. You just didn't understand what was going on. You thought that because, you know, you grew up in a in a in a in a suburb, you went to a nice school and shit like that, and you know, you don't hang around the the I like Kanders Holmes. The the the knickknocks and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? You don't drop the M-bomb, you listen to country music, you one of them. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:07

No, you're not.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:07

My thing was you had your you had your your awakening, and now you're a little bit more central as opposed to being one side or the other. And that's where we know people need to need to be, is we need to everybody.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:19

At some point, we had like the opposite reaction, but we we both see the same thing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:22

I have the opposite reaction.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:24

I see it, and I'm like, okay, so you kind of a coon.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:26

I'm cool with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:28

I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:29

I call her coon if she kept doing the tap dancing afterwards. Like after they they popped you and you kept doing this shit? Like, what's the one dude?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:34

I would have been like, okay, that's what she really believes.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:39

And he had his hair was fucking straight. Fucking nigger. He was talking about uh with the Kendrick Lamar Super Bowl. All of all of my white friends when I was there were so confused we didn't understand what's going on.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:50

And you fucking tap dancing cooning and all the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:57

Hey, that's because that shit wasn't for you. That shit was not for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:01

But I have an issue with the shit that they like, like the shit that they have because they'll see that there's systemic racism, but they won't address it. And they'll just say uh they'll gloss over like it's nothing, and then they'll they'll talk about the the results of it. Like we did the video you played, Matt Washington, and that's what I was trying to get to when we were talking about the 13%. There's reasons why we commit so many crimes. Do we commit do we that now if we want to do like like want to be completely all like air bones, me not trying to get a rise out of you, ain't being shit. No, we don't create, we don't commit half of the crimes. If we want to just go fall point blank. But if we go by what's recorded, what's actually on books, how many people have gotten off because their their daddy knows somebody or somebody's a sheriff in their family or something like that, we absolutely don't commit it. But it's the shit that's on the books, it's the shit that's been televised, it's it's what's being seen. It's the same shit like when they try to sell us that goofy ass shit in the 90s, black on black crime. No such thing. Every race murders their own race at higher values than they murder other races. It just makes sense. He said a statement about we murder black uh white people more than black people murder us. Have y'all seen what we do to each other? Like, we uh the reason why we're still 13% is abortions, gang violence, and nutball shit. If we got rid of those three things, we'd probably be out here outnumbering everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:25

Anybody, that's any race. That's any race. Abortions, no, murdering their own people, no, and nutballs. Nobody, nobody, nobody's gonna be able to do that. He just took one man from his family than black people. This guy just took them. Nobody killed more than black people. The guy that took one the guy that took Charlie Kirk from his family, because he had a wife and some kids, the guy that took him from him, Charlie Kirk might have had another two kids. That's two more people that's not going to make reserve. So all that's the same thing. But those things I just labeled it's prevalent in the community, the black community.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:54

But these are all the reasons that texts.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:56

Those are the main reasons why we're 13%. But what's the main reason that people the wait wait, time's out? Why is the Caucasian race 10% statistically? We coach statistics. Statistically, they 10 to 12% of the population in the world. Why? And they stuck at that position. And then why is it that they're under they're under they're under the replacement numbers because they're society that they're replacement numbers?

SPEAKER_04 1:45:18

They're not fucking. They're not having kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:21

No, well, why they're not having kids. But they just had a lady that was an Instagram influencer, got arrested and come gonna get convicted at 21 years of age. She she f she had a baby and she like threw it in the trash or flushed it a white Caucasian lady. They're fucking, they're doing the same things that everybody's doing. They're doing black. In America, it's an abortion that's rampant.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:40

In America, abortion is a black, is a black issue.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:43

Man, it's an everybody issue, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:46

No, it's not. You wanna know how I know it's not? If I got 170. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me explain why it's not. You wanna know why it's not? Sia. Wanna know why it's not? The word the person who started it, Margaret Singer, was a CIA agent. You know who she was? Oh, she was one of the most wait, wait, you know who she was? She started feminism. All those things were directly.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:02

Margaret Singer was a direct manager. Was a white supremacist sympathizer.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:10

She was a CI agent.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:12

So a white supremacist sympathizer that put at first put it, it wasn't to it wasn't to destroy her own people, though. It was in place to destroy the minority of the community.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:23

Do you know the city?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:25

They're under the replacement numbers, bro. It's under it's it's a fact that Japan is under the replacement. Because they're not Korea is under the replacement.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:34

They're not fucking.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:35

They are. They're not fucking maybe Korea. We're not with the.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:40

They fucking man? They fucking stop, stop. I watch, I watch. Stop, stop, stop. I'm laying groundwork and we're fucking. Stop. I'm gonna lay groundwork and say right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:48

They're doing it responsibly and then they're not gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:53

Blacks and whites only. This is all I'm talking about here in America. Abortion is not affecting white people uh as heavily as it's affecting us.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:02

Bro, their numbers outnumber us. We've always been 13%. If you come in and you're always been 13%. If you're coming in, if you're coming in at 50, 60, 70% like they were, bro, and they're and they're projected to be, they're projected to be a minority in what? What year is that? Against mine? 2030, 40 something. They're projected to be the minority to the Latino community, which is why they're shipping out a lot of immigrants. What is your argument? The ones that are in power. What is your compared to ours, to mine? My argument is not past that. What's your argument compared to mine?

SPEAKER_04 1:47:31

Because I'm trying to get you.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:35

You want me to answer the question? Please. My argument to what you're saying is that in reality, it's us that are detrimental to the number. But our numbers have been stagnant. Our numbers have been at 13% for the while. It ain't going down. It ain't we 12. We're still at replacement level. Okay. Their numbers are going down, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:51

Okay, but abortion is not affecting in the way it's affecting us.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:55

We just been at the same number globally.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:58

In the US. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:59

Thank you. I like that too. I like that too. I like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:03

I like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:04

Feed that beast. Feed that beast.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:06

Feed that beast.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:09

Because white. In America, abortion is a black thing more than white. It is not affecting white people the way it's affecting us. Point blank period. Facts. No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:20

We we are going to be able to do it. Okay, time out, time out, time out, time out. Birth in 2020. Abortion is raised in the black community. What percentage of the population are we?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:32

13.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:32

That's that's first of all, that's like rumored. I think it's higher than that. It's like 16. Yeah, it's higher than that. It's like 16. But let's say that's true. It's supposed to be. Are we gonna be, but what are they percentage? It's going their percentage of the population is going down, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:47

It is.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:48

So then how is it affecting if we stuck it? We actually, they were saying we're 13, but you're saying we're 16 now. So we obviously grew 3%. But if their percentage is going down and they're gonna be a binocular, and they're gonna be able to, let me finish.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:59

More black babies than babies are born. And they're gonna fit, let me finish. It's not affecting us detrimentally.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:06

Blastoff on Planet Earth got five kids down there on Earth. I got five little ones down there on Earth. It's not my problem. I'm procreating. I've been fruitful and I multiplied. I got a granddaughter now. This is Brastoff's personal life. But it does affect you because we're we're arguing about how many, I got, I, my, my, my name is gonna live on for a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:27

That's all good, but that's not the argument.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:29

The argument is that How many children do you have, brother? I have absolutely none. How many children do you have how many children do you got? Zero, allegedly. So then is it me? But I hey, you can have two of mine. They go two for you. They go three for you. Well, I'm gonna do it. So I've already put it in for you. I got a grandbaby I can keep. I gave you two kids, I gave you three kids, we good. But abortion statistics.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:50

We just said abuse uh statistics.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:53

That's not the facts anymore. People ain't getting abortions like they used to. It was accessible in. Oh, yes, they are. Now listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Absolutely. No, no, listen, hear me out, hear me out. Hear me out. Oh, he out. Let me tell you why. I'm gonna push this out to you. The ones that don't have money, don't have access to money, don't have access to travel, you're not getting an abortion in Houston, Texas, or Texas, period. You're not getting abortion in Louisiana, you're not getting an abortion in Mississippi, you're not getting abortions in Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:21

Officially, yes, the fuck you are. No, you're not. Okay, no, you're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:25

And if you do, you're going to prison.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:27

If you get caught.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:27

You gotta go to somewhere like Colorado. Yes, you do.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:31

There's a woman that almost died or did die because she did the same thing. She was in a state that didn't allow for abortion. Her doctor gave her abortion pills and it was the wrong one.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:40

So how many, so then how many people are gonna break the law? How many people are breaking the law like that? That's not true. That's not true. True.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:47

It's gonna be that you brought that you brought this point up, Chris, because uh McGrizzly Green, because yesterday I watched an article about how people in Greece, one of the most ancient countries in the world, they themselves are not having kids, and it's this trend across all of Europe. And they mentioned Japan, they're like all these countries, and no African countries are mentioned.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:05

No, because they're above, they're well above the placement.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:08

They're well above countries and Asian countries, their populations are going down because the people aren't fucking they're not having kids. They don't want to have kids. The cost of living is going up. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:19

Feminism is going down. That's the problem. So that's the problem.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:23

And one of the things in Greece That's how he said feminism is going up, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:51:28

They don't want to have babies. They're scared to have babies. I don't want to go through that pain. I don't want to go through that childbirth. I don't want my body to change. I don't want to be independent and have my own.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:36

If this table was feminism, abortion would be one of these four legs. Feminism nowadays does not live without abortion. Right, right. So big time. That whole thing he just said was another reason why abortions happen. Because okay, so not even just the harp of feminism, but physicism can push this whole, this whole what, second or third wave. Free sex, everything, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, right? And so that's when they started using the birth control and everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:59

Cool, whatever. Oh, people are having sex now. They're having it freely. They're having it freely, especially in America. That's especially in America. They're having sex freely. You got women over in other countries fucking a thousand dudes. Correction. Was it a hundred dudes or was it a thousand dudes? Was it a hundred dudes? Was bunny, bunny, bunny blue. Was that a hundred dudes or a thousand dudes? That was a thousand dudes.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:20

It was a thousand and correction. And that's the correction.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:23

My God.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:24

Women are fucking.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:25

That's a whole that's another thing too.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:28

With with with fewer men. Women are fucking they're having more sex with fewer men. Women are having sex with alpha guy. The same guy. The alpha guy. They're all having sex with one guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:38

That's what I was gonna say. It's like you gotta look at it like this. There's more I did I did New York because that was the most recent one that I heard of. That's nothing new. That's been like that since the 90s. We've had cities that have aborted more black children than they have, and that's that's a recurring thing that doesn't happen with other races. It goes back to Margaret Singer.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:55

Koreans, Asian, the initial foundation of it was four reasons.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:58

More than anything, don't do it. That's right. They're Catholic. That's right. So a lot of them that restored their Catholic rights and shit, don't do it. A lot of them.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:07

A lot of them don't even use protection.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:08

A lot of the, a lot of the, especially we hear in the South, the Bible Belt, a lot of that religious section, they don't approve of abort. So there's a like, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of things that's affecting the black community, like abortion, that's that keeps us at that 13%. Yeah. Not to mention self- uh like our self-destruction. Like, how many times do you see on the new matter of fact, uh Trump was talking about going to Chicago? Don't you know some dumbass Wyoming guy on TikTok talking about don't do it, don't do it, gang? We got switches.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:39

Man, that dumb ass stuff. I seen that.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:41

But the fact is out loud, like that's what Chicago's shy rack. The rack. Shy rack. Like we are detrimental to ourselves. So we have so many things that keep us at that that's such a low threshold. We think about it like this. When you look at it, we are the number when it comes to men, we are the number one desired race. So that uh uh uh the desired male amongst the races. So we can go out other people.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:09

I heard opposite, I heard opposite statistics, but yeah, I got it.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:12

No, black women are the worst. Black men are number one. Black women are are are the least, which is tough. So black men are number one or number two. Uh white, uh white men, no, Asian men are the last. Uh black men are.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:25

White men are the are the top. They're the most desired men for women. They're number one, then we're number two. Then we're like number two, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:31

Um, black women are last. Um white women are at the last. Asians are at the top.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:36

Asian women are at the top.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:38

Asian men are last.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:38

Asian women.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:39

Asian men are last. Asian men are last. Asian women are like second most after white women. White women are the number one, Asian women are number two, Latino women are. Any women are number are last. But you know why?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:48

Because Asian women are seen as feminine, seen as submissive, seen as, hey, she's gonna ride with me to the end of it. That's what they see. That's what they see. Regardless if it's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:01

A lot of this stuff is like narratives. It's like narrative. Narratives that just get reinforced.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:05

You got Asian women that'll go across your head that'll go.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:10

In a society, it becomes culture. So then Asian women behave like that, and white women behave like that, and let me ask you this. A certain type of way. Because I had a I had a I got a I got a I got a I got a homeboy.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:21

It's gonna get dangerous. This finna get weekend, it's finna get dangerous. I got a I got a homeboy, he's 60, he's 60 something years old. He told me last night, he's 60 something years old. He ain't married, and he was saying about like, hey man, I'm I'm I'm on team black women. I'm I'm just all black. I say, well, brother, I agree with you. I love my sister, whatever. But if you 60 years old and you single and you've been teen pro black women, but you 60 years old, and most men, let's be honest, men desire companionship. Men are logical guys. Men want a woman that's gonna be able to get along with them, and whatever y'all's dynamic is in the relationship, whether you you know you find you know, you find someone that that'll that'll help chip in, or that'll have your kids and you pay the bills, or y'all both have kids and she pay you you take care of them for the while, then she gets in them in the entering the labor force and she's going to college while you're working. Whatever the case is, you've been dedicated to a certain group of women or a dynamic of women or a type, and now you're single. That's just not uh ideal for most men. Most men don't want to die alone. They don't want to be alone. They end up settling for being alone because they see that what they have, the options they have, is is little no. They think that all women are the same. All black women are the same. You don't go looking in the right places. You want to look on social media. I don't believe you can find a great woman that's you can find a great woman on social media, but your chances are slim if you're going on a dating app, if you're going on on online and seeing her shake that ass or something like that, and or seeing in the club twerking or something like that, and you want to DM her. That's not gonna probably be your wife because that's a thousand other ladies. Because a woman, uh to me, a woman, and it's not everybody. We're not putting them all in the box. Because you got white girls that do it, you got Asians girls that do it, you got OnlyFans, they all make, you're not gonna find a sexualized woman. You it's not in the box. Of course you can, but you're not likely to find, you're less likely to find a wife one per sexualized woman. Overly sexualized woman, first of all. It's like 1%. A overly sexualized woman. We did an episode before on this. Degeneration is the is the can is degeneration, uh, uh uh the degeneration episode. I don't remember, you know, is is is is you know, or the digital dilemma, whichever one. But the problem is, is that you're not likely to find your and then you know what? And it's it men too, we're not gonna excuse me. Men have been ruined going woman from woman to woman to woman, and they've been on porn. We've said this before, and they sense they unsensitivise to women. They think and they don't know, they don't, the relationship they know is what they see on x.com, I'm excuse me, or x.com, or or or or or or or or or x, what is it, xvideos.com or whatever, whatever else. They think that that's how you're supposed to screw the woman. They think that that's how easy it is. They can't then they can't program their mind to even be thinking of a woman outside of sexual nature. They can't think of it, they can't bond with a woman, they don't know how it's a lot of parabonding. They can't parabond, they can't, they can't think of a woman every time they see a woman, they don't they think of her in a sexual nature. It's guys that are like that. And so some guys are reserved now because of the digital. Yes, he's right. People aren't screwing as much as they used to. They screwing a lot. Okay, the way they're doing it is freely now. And like you say, women, the feminism is controlled. Women, it's a lot of women that's screwing the same guys and stuff like that. I agree with that. But on the man's side, he's reserved to defeat at that nature. Oh, she ain't screwing. I'm gonna go on here and I'm gonna go in this in my bed and put on pornhub.com and and I'm gonna fulfill myself. And so now your energy and your drive, your testosterone to go chase a woman is down. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:59:05

And that's part of you, that's been in your genes for thousands of years, and now suddenly you turn it off.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:10

And so all of these factors abortion, porn, feminism, just in general, all of them. All this is driving the population down.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:21

That's part of the reason in certain countries. Think about these countries that didn't have access to phones, Africa and India and things of that nature. They didn't have access to all this technology. They had the happiest population. That's why they're uh uh on a surplus right now. But as they introduce this technology, think about it. Now African women are now being more sexualized. They got their reality shows, they got their pop the loon balloon shallows and things like that. Their cultures and their people are gonna be more ingratiated. It's gonna that's that's the goal, anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:51

Also, too, there there's a portion that you have to give grace to that that that I like when this conversation gets brought out that doesn't really get talked about. As we progress, as we get better with technology, as we evolve, we're gonna stop having as many kids anyway. Like the population's gonna go down anyways.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:11

And why is that a bad thing? My question is why is that a bad thing? Why is the population decline itself a bad thing?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:16

It's not. It's what it is is they they're they're one. So for us, it's not. For for the the those in power, those that be, that's less workers. That's less that's less efficiency. That's less less.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:27

That's they have to pay you more because you're more valuable because there's less of you.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:31

Right. But like the I don't think that I one, we are one of the most evasive species on this planet. We're not going anywhere. Um, unless we end up nuking ourselves. But like l lack of fucking, we'll get down to like some solid numbers, we'll balance out, and then depending on what's necessary, we'll go from there. But if you go like and it's not far from like your grandparents, your great grandparents, that at some point along your line, not too far off, your family was huge. And that was because, you know, technology and things weren't up to the snuff and people were dying. So it wasn't just initials the fact that I, you know, back in the day they wanted 12 kids. Hell, six of them ain't gonna make it. Three of them crib deaths, two of them didn't listen to you and got hit by a car. You only got two or three left. So, like, that's really what the numbers are. And then you start wheeling that back where there that that that that idea of having multiple kids past two or three starts not to be a driving factor. So that that's also gonna bring some of that down. So, yes, what you're saying, absolutely, huge impact. I'm not saying that has doesn't have any impact at all, but some of the impact that we don't look at is the fact that if everything was gravy, everything was Gucci. We didn't have any negative ramifications with internet and so and society, and we we've we figured out hunger and war, shit like that, that's gonna go, those numbers are gonna go down anyways. At some point, our numbers were gonna balance out.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:56

I my I I have a I have a theory. I think that a lot of like white and Asian countries, especially, they see themselves as being like close to that point where they're like, yeah, we're part, we have education, we have rights, we have all this stuff. So yeah, our population goes down. They see that as like a positive thing. Now, Japan's different story because they're like one of the biggest cities, well, Tokyo, one of the biggest cities in the world. Yeah, I think it's the number one, the biggest city in the world. There were ghost cities. But but now it's turning into a ghost city because the infrastructure is built for all these people, and all these people are educated and have rights and all this stuff. So now they don't, they don't they don't be fucking like that. They don't be having kids like that.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:33

Well, also, too, another thing is like when you start looking at like the Asian countries, for example, like China, China's been lying. They don't have the numbers they have, and their population is is dwindling because of uh a lot of factors, but one of them was self- China is going leaning more capitalist, though.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:47

And get leaning away from communism and leaning more, starting to lean more capitalists.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:51

True. But a lot of theirs was self-um-inflicted, because remember at one point they had a one-child rule. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:59

And then they started pushing two child or three child. Yeah, they did. But they numbers, they were in the billions. That was a lie. I I if you count all Asia, Asia's like, what, four billion people in Asia?

SPEAKER_04 2:03:11

That's Asia, but there's more than one country in Asia.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:14

But I'm saying Asia. I'm saying I'm saying Asia in general. I'm talking about even.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:17

China lied. China, China lied about their infrastructure, China lied about how much money they have, and China lied about how many people they have. Like, we're just now starting to figure out some of the true numbers, and they've been off for a while now.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:28

You know, China's not. I'm I'm gonna say that China's starting to become, I I have a different opinion. I believe that China is starting to become a major player in diplomacy and and and being. It's always been a major player. But but but but but but then the the way that, like I say, they're leaning more capitalists now. They're starting to let their people, you know, own their own, start their own, not having to share what they have and the government taking control and what they're having and whatever for it to go to the government or whatever. The thing about the whole the whole situation is at the end of the day, bro, whether you're talking about abortion, whether you're talking about uh uh uh uh sexual natures of cultures and communisms and capitalisms and and all of these things, socialism, things are gonna change and everybody across the world is gonna have to deal with less. It's gonna it's gonna be continue to get less because they're having artificial intelligence that's gonna replace a lot of jobs. They're gonna replace they got a man, the thing is they got AI that can cut your hair now. You can put your head in the machine, they scan your scalp, and it takes care of your haircut. I've seen it. Oh, yeah, no, AI, so the the thing is the reason why is gonna diminish.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:49

Well, they're necessary the necessity of people and the and the carbon car the carbon footprints are gonna diminish because they're not gonna need So here's the grand scheme of things, because like a lot of people I don't think pull out far enough to see the like where this is gonna end up. Hashtag pull out when when when you start having a mass exit of a jobs and stuff like that, when you start having AI doing so much, you're gonna you you only have two options. You're gonna you basically bash yourself into a corner and only two options. You either prop up a fake economy because you have no way of actually maintaining um taxing and shit like that or any type of funds transaction with individuals and businesses because nobody's working. AI did all the jobs, so how do you get money? Or so you had to give like a di like a universal currency, right? Like the whole China.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:41

I was just gonna get into that. They want a universal income in America.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:44

You do that, and then you're gonna end up cause if you don't prop up something like that, then you're gonna end up having a whole lot of people with a whole lot of time, and we're a country of guns.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:54

Yeah. That's the one thing that's saving us. Idle hands are the devil's plaything.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:58

So that's the one thing that's saving us.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:01

You know that, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:06:01

I don't think I think that's a good thing. I think I think that's I I honestly want that to happen. So uh I want us not to have to work to survive. I don't want to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:11

So you're saying you know, you want to you've heard of the universal income theory that they're gonna try to push that on?

SPEAKER_04 2:06:16

Um they're gonna so they're gonna try to. They're not gonna be able to do it successfully. I but I want them to Why do you feel that way?

SPEAKER_01 2:06:22

Let me let me ask you a question.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:25

Because we're a country of rebels. We're everything about us is rebels. I respect your question. I love that about us.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:38

I'm gonna be conservative, say 100 years. Say it again. AGI. AGI comes out, artificial general intelligence. It solves all of our problems, we don't have to work anymore.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:45

It won't be 100 years. Okay, okay. It'd be 25. Right. I'm saying I'm being conservative.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:51

I'm being I'm being I'm being conservative. I'm being hyper-conservative, and I'm saying 100 years.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:56

With the president going the way it's going. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Let me get to my question.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:01

Let me let me get to my question. How do you undo 100,000, 200,000 years of human evolution that says humans need to work, they need to have physical goals, whether it's hunting, farming, fishing, weaving, all that stuff. How do you how do we as a species? I got a good question. I got a good question. Basically, what does society look like?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:27

Nothing changes. It's the same thing. It's the same question that we've been asking ourselves since we understood how to ask that question. What is my purpose of life? None of that, nothing of that changes. Your purpose just isn't going to go work for a fucking corporation. You you'll start having people that start like striving for other skill sets like art, like singing, like music, like like shit. Yeah. You're gonna have like you're gonna start having crazy like people coming out with crazy genetics, right? Because you're gonna have people that are just gonna all they're gonna do is work out, have crazy bodies, and that shit, um, yeah, AI can help them with that. So what's gonna happen is we're gonna end up in um uh it's gonna be more like the America or I the way I have vision is like a massatory. You know what a massatory school is, right? That instead of them teaching you your math, your science, shit like that, you have your normal grades, they figure out what you're good at, what your passion is. Oh, you like this, the saxophone? Cool. We're about to stick you with, you know, orchestra classical musicians that are gonna teach you saxophone, we're gonna make you a prodigy. Oh, you like mathematics? Okay, cool. We're gonna get like actual math leads, niggas that that solve unsolvable problems, they're gonna teach.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:31

So if the world you're never gonna have math problems because AI's gonna figure it all out.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:34

But what I'm saying is the the world will settle into its own crevices figuring out what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:39

So if that's the case, it'll settle itself. Do you feel as though there will ever reach a point in time to where AI is part of government?

SPEAKER_04 2:08:47

It already is.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:48

It already is.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:49

It's been a part of government.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:50

In what way? Making I'm saying policy making and pop I'm saying policy voting. No, the Patriot Act. No, listen, I'm saying determining policy. I got that riding policy. Cambridge, Cambridge Analytica, which helped uh uh I'm not saying influenced, I'm saying creating and drawing up diplomacy pocket.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:11

If AI can affect who gets voted into office, then whoever's in office will affect policy.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:17

Nah, it's not a big thing. Will you ever see an AI congressman? Yes, yes, yes, that'd be the most dangerous thing in the world. I don't believe that.

SPEAKER_01 2:09:25

No, because by definition, AI does not need to manifest itself as a human being, an anthropological being. It's not gonna be a body. So then at that point, we go back to the very beginning, but you will see a Congress of AI.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:41

So from so a server room which logistics can light up national industries. We can go back to the health, military. If that's the case, we can go back to the beginning of the conversation when we were saying is AI the most dangerous thing that's facing mankind? Because if you put AI, if you put AI, that's that's what we said.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:01

That's the question now, but the way you asked it wasn't that. You you you said something else, but I get what you're saying. Because I said it's AI a threat right now. Remember, that was my question.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:10

If you listen, if you put AI in charge of any human decision that affect human life, and they decide what they decide. Is there gonna be like a human spell check or excuse me, a human, basically human spell check or editor to say, no, we're not gonna, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:32

What it sounds like is you're assuming what we have now is gonna be in charge. But the AI that does that, the AI that's able to make rules and rule on law, is gonna be so far past it it's gonna make it's gonna be the equivalent of us looking to be at a day one just out the vag baby.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:51

You're that's that's what our AI is gonna be compared to when it gets to that point. When it gets because like that's the whole thing is this AI, regardless of what you're doing, whether it's language model or anything else, AI is a sponge. It's learning, it's constantly getting shit 24-7. So by the time we decide that, you know what, we no longer want a human body governing us, that AI is gonna be so out this world, it's not gonna be anything close to what we have or we even think is gonna be out there.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:18

And and to add to that, to add to that, I think it's gonna be like so incomprehensible that maybe it's gonna be it'll be like, okay, and it'll fuck off into the cosmos and and you'll never see or hear from it ever again.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:28

We also gotta think about it too, like uh And we out here in Mars, so we're not gonna see it either. They just did a video just to show the progression of AI. So one of the first ones that was like that they they started using as a keynote, they look at look at least the visual perspective of the the growth of AI, is the Will Smith eating spaghetti.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:48

Yep, that yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:51

You look at what we have now versus that first one, is unrecognizable because now we're getting to a point now where it's if you get AI and you get somebody that's good at prompting and working with it, it's not gonna have the weird finger things where you're gonna be like, oh, that motherfucker got seven fingers or two thumbs. It's not it. Like AI, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:09

And that's what I said. I said that. We spoke on that earlier. We said the fingers and stuff be messed up, but wait till it gets more realistic, it's gonna be hard to tell. And and it's it's it's almost I can still tell AI.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:20

And AGI will be. It'll know exactly what to put in to make it look picture perfect. You won't be able to tell if that's your kids or not. You won't be able to tell.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:42

It's gonna be us looking at the Will Smith eating spaghetti today. Where it almost looks like it's him. Like it's almost point for point. Because they just did an upgrade not too long ago where they added more uh pixels to make it more uh realistic. Um compared to the very first time someone said, Show me, you know, Will Smith Ean Spaghetti and Yeah, exactly. Like you look at that, that's gonna be the comparison.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:06

We're gonna be at a point where if And we knew back then, we knew back then that it was gonna advance to this point.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:12

I knew I so I I'm a sci-fi kid. Like I'm a huge fucking nerd. I like we're gonna run into one of our a sci-fi franchise. We've already ran into one. We've already hit the Walking Dead, it's just not the same as we thought it was. But we're gonna hit a a very a revelation of you could say Judge Dredd, right? Because they they pretty much ran off of a giant computer. You could look at like um uh Iron Robot, the Will Smith joint. Damn near every robot was doing like they're already like at the end.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:42

I miss Judge Dread. I remember that. I like the original with Sylvester stuff.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:46

That's what I'm talking about. But you know.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:47

They had a reboot. It was pretty dope too when he was in the party.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:50

I'm sorry. I I did the wrong one. Yeah. Judge Dread's great movie. I was talking about Demolition Man. Demolition Man.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:56

Demolition Man.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:57

They read that, you know, with Taco Bell's only food chain in the food chain. Anyways, shout out to anybody that remembers that it's a great fucking movie. But um we're gonna either get to that point or we're gonna get to Matrix slash Terminator. It's it's the it those are only two outcomes we're really gonna run into. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:13

And and I think that we are more Bro, they let hey, what we all circling back. Isn't this ironic? Well, I'm gonna be able to do that that this guy is being hypocritical.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:25

I'm not being hypocritical.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:26

When he was saying he don't believe that he he's saying it right now that, which, which if he's gonna be literal, see, I think he was being literal and I was being in foresight. He was saying that either we're gonna be Terminator or we're gonna be Matrix. That's what he's just saying.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:40

Now, if he's saying Terminator Matrix is one side. Wait, okay, okay, okay, okay. Everything's in in harmony and everything's cool and okay, so so so that's a possibility.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:50

We're gonna reach both. You're gonna reach both before you you will reach, you will reach the harmony side probably before you reach the art of the the the just outright, let me just take you out. Because you're gonna have that. If you got AI that can do all of these things, they can come take you out, you're gonna have a harmonic side. I think that's demolition man. I think wasn't demolition man, was it on Earth or was it in space?

SPEAKER_04 2:15:09

I thought it was on Mars. Demolition Man was Earth. It was on Earth, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:12

With Western, I'm thinking of the six elements. It was on Earth.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:16

He ended up he ended up um blowing up a building. Um they thought there were uh hostages in it, and it came to find out it wasn't hostages, it was dead bodies, but of course they didn't have the technology because it was like in the 90s, so they froze them and they went into the future. It was Earth. It's Earth. Because they're talking about Taco Bell and the great fast food wars. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:35

Fast food wars, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:37

But no, uh, I guess I ain't seen that one.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:38

I'm thinking of Fifth Element too. Yeah, Fifth Element, because that's Bruce Willis. Wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 2:15:42

Bruce Willis and uh Chris Tucker. That wasn't even like in our skill solar system. That was made oh that anyways. I just watched something on it, and Fifth Element is a fantastic movie. But, anyways, I'm not trying to be hypocritical with my original statement. My statement is is there any issue now? Um, and reason why I was being a bit of an ass and tongue-in-cheek, but it's not hypocritical because I feel like we're going to, as we always do, we're gonna stumble, we're gonna have some hiccups, right? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we're not gonna have a point where AI is not gonna, we're not gonna have a headline where AI kills somebody, right? We're gonna run into like those small hiccups. And I don't mean to make that like light work. Anybody that dies, or whenever this happens, I'm not trying to be prophetic. What I'm saying is it's not gonna go directly downhill. We're gonna see as it goes. Like we're we're still learning. It's different.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:31

I believe you'll be demolition, man, before you cross over. Some things are gonna be positive, some things are gonna be negative or negative.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:37

But I think it's because we have countries racing at it so fast. Yeah, we're gonna that race is gonna help us more than we think because it's gonna fast track us to fuck ups. I'm a strong believer in that.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:48

And that's why I believe that you can have Terminator before you can have demolition, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:52

I think because they're not gonna allow it to be that large, that, that, that large of a thing. It's how you create that artificial intelligence.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:59

It's all that they want the controller of the Skynet was the what the controller was. The supercomputer, super artificial intelligence is what created the Terminator situation. You built a computer so it became self-aware. It became aware and it made the decision to take control. Now, this is where the satellites and manufacturing of the Terminators and reprogramming. Have you seen that Terminator?

SPEAKER_04 2:17:22

This is where my cartoon animation. This is where my high nerding kicks in. In that universe, they didn't have we we don't have any information that says that they had a movie franchise or something like that. Like, we have all this shit that kind of like Wait, repeat that in Terminator, right? I there's I I I I won't say this for sure because like it it's been a minute since I've seen it, but I'm almost a hundred percent sure there was no previous like because like the whole idea of the sa like the reason why you look at the Terminator and how it ends up solving each movie is they go back in the past and the past supposedly fixes the mistakes so it leads up. That's we were kinda we get we're kinda We don't have that technology. We don't need that technology. We we we have the Terminator to give us the exact yeah, we have the terminator. Yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. Give us that foresight of don't do that. No, when we see these hiccups, pay the fuck attention.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:16

We need to feel we failed.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:19

I believe that we failed and that we're failing. And that's and that's I believe that these I believe that the that the people who are in these tech firms are like, oh yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:25

Let's push the bar. They want to push the bar. They want to push the button. They want to pollute power with corruption. The reason why the reason why is because capitalism is competitive. And if China is racing to get ahead and they're in AI, it's not using months. Capitalism is encouraging individualism. Is three weeks behind you, then you're gonna fucking rush three weeks ahead of them. Capitalism encourages competition and individual. Who can be the best? Who can do what they can take for nothing and make something? That's what it's it's good and bad.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:58

Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. How long do you think we've had AI technology?

SPEAKER_01 2:19:05

I'm gonna say 20, I'm gonna say like 25 years.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:08

I'm gonna say whenever AI artificial meaning that it's automated, it can do things on its own. What do you consider artificial intelligence?

SPEAKER_01 2:19:15

What do you consider?

SPEAKER_02 2:19:16

It's loosely. What's your definition? I won't know your artificial definition of the artificial intelligence. I can't give you my definition, but then I don't know what the base my answer off for. I wanna based off of I want to answer your definition of artificial intelligence.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:26

I'm gonna give you constraints. I'm gonna give you constraints. Anything that you can loosely um give credence to the computer doing it on its own.

SPEAKER_01 2:19:37

Since the 19, since the the 1950s. Whenever, whenever, whenever you had Since the 1950s, since the 1750s.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:44

The computer doing it on its own, no. Without any once you start it up. You don't need human interference to make it work, right? I would say is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_04 2:19:56

Absolutely no input and it runs on its own and it and it runs commands on.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:00

But what I'm saying is you're speaking on once because artificially intelligence is created by humans.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:05

Right.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:05

You're are you saying the point where you're saying after they turned that engine and they can leave it alone and it just goes. Shh man, that's earliest times, bro.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:16

That's talking about machine, mechanics, not even computers, chips in it. Okay. We're talking about mechanical.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:21

Okay. So we've had that much time up until now before we really started getting it in our hands and and playing with it, right? Automation. I don't think because and and maybe I'm optimistic. I'll give you that. Maybe I'm optimistic in the sense that I give the the people that are more intelligent than me that are creating this the foresight to know to ha to to put in um some safety rails, right? That's all I'm giving credence to. Right now, what I said when I was being facetious, I wasn't really being facetious. I I still believe AI is doesn't pose a threat right now. It possibly can. Like I said, we can hit that that end of world, like, you know, machines are hunting us down. But I don't think that's gonna happen. I think we're gonna do is is is now that we're fast tracking it and we now have it out in the public, because remember, they don't really give us too much shit that's too too dangerous. That kind of that kind of stopped back in like the 40s and shit like that. They kind of try to give us shit that's not gonna just mat and kill us en masse. So this is the same reason why they haven't given us AI robots. It's the same reason why that like they've been working on that shit for ages. Eons. Eons, eons, eons. And not even necessarily AI, just normal shit, right? Full clothes. Uh the wash, like, you know what I'm saying? They we we have dishwash shit like that, but like they actually have like units. I think we're that what they're gonna do is they're gonna slowly and I mean that in a very like the the the slightest terms, because nothing AI is slow. But I mean that they're gonna move slowly enough where they can put safeguards and breaks. I don't think it's gonna end up being terminator at all.

SPEAKER_01 2:21:58

I don't I don't think three weeks be I don't think being three weeks ahead of China in an AI race is a safeguard. I don't think if AI gets to another jumping point within that three weeks, and you're three weeks ahead of China, and you have to make decisions to stop what you're doing so you can understand what it's doing, or keep going so you stay three weeks ahead of China. I don't think three weeks is long enough to be safe. I don't believe that. Why wouldn't it not be safe? Because if you don't understand what's going on now, and you're not gonna understand what's going on in three weeks, three months, three years. That's not how IT works. That's how AI, that's how AI research works, according to the godfather of AI.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:34

Both in IT. That's not how IT works. IT, everything that's done leaves a paper trail. Everything that's done leaves the laws.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:40

Who's the godfather of AI?

SPEAKER_01 2:22:42

He worked for Google. What's his name? Oh, I forgot his name. I can look it up. But he he he he's come on numerous podcasts saying I was grandfathered in the well, not grandfather, but he's like the grandfather of this shit. And he's saying, I was in Google, I'm a big deal in this stuff, they don't know what they're doing. They're so focused on the race and the competition, they don't understand where they are now.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:06

Right. But the competition is to get there. The competition isn't necessarily releasing on us.

SPEAKER_01 2:23:10

That's what you're saying. Um in capitalism, there's no end result. In capitalism, there's never an end result. It's profit, profit, profit, profit, profit up into at in infinity.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:19

No, there's end there, there's still goals, though. There are there are goals, but there's no end result. But there's still goals. There's still things that are work too. And again, back to what I was saying, that's not how IT works. But once you hit one goal, how IT works. Everything in IT has a log. So you may not know it now. Three weeks from later, you have people going over, scouting over it. You're gonna But by that point, it's too late.

SPEAKER_01 2:23:38

Is it? If if if you create an AI system that mismanages your financial reports for six months, when you find out about it six months later, and that could have changed the trajectory of your business, how do you go with the track?

SPEAKER_04 2:23:51

Right, but that's but that sounds like something that's already released to the masses. The race to getting something out is.

SPEAKER_01 2:23:56

But these things are created in but yeah, but these things are created in labs. They're created in labs, they're not created, they're not, they're not handed to masses. Right. If it's if it's broken in the lab, it's gonna be broken when it goes out in mass.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:07

Right, I hear you. But that's what I'm saying is there that it's not gonna come out into a like I I'm I'm again being optimistic about it. Yes, sir. I don't think they're gonna it's it's gonna come out to be something as detrimental as we think. Like they're gonna have a lot of this stuff already mapped out. Case in point, Chat GBT that's new, do you know why they went from four to five? Why? Because um they started spotting too many irregular conversations and um threads that were irregular. And what I mean by that is instead of people using AI as like an assistant or um helping them with the work or streamlining, they're using AI as like a therapist, as a boyfriend. Some were even trying to get married, shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 2:24:54

Yeah, but that code now is already out there. People are creating AI girlfriends, AI boyfriends, AI porn, AI financial advice, AI this, that, that, that, that.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:03

That's fine, that's fine. That's neither here nor there. What I'm saying though is is there are safeguards.

SPEAKER_01 2:25:08

Like, I I from what they do have that they do have some control over it.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:13

Well, they have a lot of control over because like um they don't have anything, like the the one thing that they don't have a control of and they're gonna have to figure that out, um, is AI to AI. That's the one thing that thro that that's throws the monkey wretched things. But everything else, they've been working pretty well with it. Um even shit that they can't get, even so AI, they've had a couple of different AIs that try to be sneaky and hide certain things, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:25:40

Yeah. And so there you go, it's already starting. And and and to give context to what he was saying, the godfather of AI, I just check it out because I want to give context to the people that's watching, is Jeffrey Hinton. That's one of Nobel Priest Pies. Um He's no Lord, he's no laughter. And I was just reading up, man, the guy said that you know AI is gonna take jobs within 20 the next five to twenty years, and that it's already taking jobs. What it's gonna be, yeah, of course. But universally. And and the and the thing is is gonna be that, you know, with AI, people are gonna lose their self of purpose. And that one of the one they're gonna use their they're gonna lose their I was a plumber, I was a welder, I don't, I can't do that job anymore. This is what they mean. Let me let me give you some context because you m you're making a stanky face. I can't, I I was a shelf.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:34

You're supposed to be your fucking job?

SPEAKER_02 2:26:35

Listen. No, no, no. But what Nah, fuck on that.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:38

No, no, listen, listen to that. That argument is a shitty argument.

SPEAKER_01 2:26:41

I agree with you, I agree with you, but listen to this. We, you, me, him, 35, 40-year-old men are not conditioned to live in a in a culture without a job. We are, I've lived 35 years with a job. Okay, I know I've I've lived 30 years with a job. He's lived 30 years with a job. You've lived 35 years. Look, I'm saying we are conditioned.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:05

I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:07

But you're making people think I'm 50-something years old.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:09

If you, if you go, if you don't have a you I ain't saying that. I ain't even close.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:21

Agree, but the fact remains that people find joy in painting pictures and selling art. People find joy in building crunchy numbers. People solve the artistic system, people solve their ADHD by doing things and turning it into income. And you can't do that. People solve things by creating things.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:39

Aside from the income, you can still do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:41

People love baking pizza from scratch.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:43

If you're a selling it, people love cooking. Or you like working, turning wrenches, you can still build cars. It's not gonna, who's gonna pay you for that? Who's gonna pay you? Again, why are we worried about who's gonna pay you? That so that mind frame is wild because it's it's it's stuck on. Well, I don't know what to do because I'm used to doing this.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:01

This Mr. Controversy. This guy's nothing.

SPEAKER_03 2:28:03

If you guys, if you guys and pick up a hobby, read a book. Self-improvement.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:13

How can I feel but I grew up my whole life building frameworks for homes, framing houses. Now this computer does it, and that's all I knew. What can I do to make supplant my what can I do to supplement this income that I lost when I was making, I had my own company, but now they got companies that are putting me out of business in this capitalist system. Capitalism is also a gift and a curse. Because capitalism is listen, when they bring out AI, it's gonna increase the profits substantially and decrease the labor force.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:42

They're gonna have to they're gonna have to prop up a fake, uh, fake economy. That's gonna be universal income.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:47

That's just suggesting. They don't have to do that. They're gonna have a problem. The few are gonna get it.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:54

We're grabbing guns.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:56

That's all probably both for a lot of countries.

SPEAKER_01 2:29:00

Listen, probably that are gonna do the countries that are gonna go fake economy are gonna be a transitional period. They're gonna say, look, we're gonna have a fake economy. Everybody who's here now, we're gonna kind of play house until your kids are born into the AI age, they're not gonna know nothing different. So they're gonna be able to.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:19

So then what's the so the good question is? So the good question is that was posed by Hinton.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:24

Y'all have had purpose.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:26

So now then the good question is. Anybody that that feels that their job is the only purpose, again, you got more problems to AI does.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:34

So basically, what Hinton was saying was that, hey, I'm 77 years old. Unfortunately, unfortunately, that's 90% of the things. I'm gonna check out of this. Unfortunately, that's 90% of the human race. So what Hinton was saying was um 100%, but unfortunately, I'm 77 years old. I'm gonna check out. I don't have to worry about this. But what if what about the positive outlook from the youth? What do they have to look for when they come for when they when the like you say, the new kids, the new kids? But but he was saying, just like he was saying, what how positive how positive can I look out if I know it's an asteroid coming to hit the earth? You're just gonna have to accept it. Basically, what he's saying. And what he says, I don't have to worry about that. I'm 70 something years old. I'm gonna be checked out.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:10

Exactly. I might be this earth anyway.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:12

So the problem is what he's saying is, hey, I built this monster, I contribute to this monster. It's not my problem anymore, though, guys. Well, my I'm rich. I don't have to worry about that. I can live my life, but what are you guys are gonna do with the and that's how you live life?

SPEAKER_04 2:30:24

I don't wanna get like I don't get that. I'm saying for us.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:27

They're gonna adjust. I guess. They're gonna have to adjust. There's nothing you can do but to adjust.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:34

If you're if you at the end of the day says, I don't have a job, I have no purpose, man. You got bigger problems.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:41

That's a defeatist mindset to say I'm gonna be resigned to not having a job, and I'm not gonna be resigned, I'm gonna be resigned to have no purpose.

SPEAKER_03 2:30:48

That's what he just said.

SPEAKER_02 2:30:49

But that's that's that's a problem. He didn't say it was a good thing. It's not he said his answer to me was if you're I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:58

So that's your problem to deal with. I just thought about it. This none of this makes sense because let's be real, who fucking wants to work?

SPEAKER_02 2:31:04

Nobody. Nigga, who wants to work? Some people do want to work. Some people do want to work. No, some people people find enjoyment. People are finding enjoyment. That's a lie. People do want to work. There's some people get it get love. They get they love painting pictures, but they love people that love playing basketball and making money and playing football and making money. Become irrelevant. The ones that don't want to work is the ones that don't do what they love to do.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:31

But see, the idea of what you're saying is It's not work if you're doing what you love to do, guys. But see, also to also still look at it from the standpoint of this side of the fence. That's the problem. Stop looking at it from this side of the fence. Remove What's the other side? First of all, money. Money shouldn't be an outcome. If they re if they remove jobs, money is no longer an outcome or grab the gun.

SPEAKER_02 2:31:49

But how are you gonna go pay for your food? Who wants to live in a dystopia? That's called a dystopian world where I gotta live out of the wild, wild west shooting up everything. Nobody wants to live like that. I don't mean that. People would rather work, like you say, this is a civilized world.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:01

So you don't feel like it's not a civilized world.

SPEAKER_02 2:32:03

Well, you said that you don't feel like there will be any problems with with with with with with bloodshed uh or this or that because people are too civilized in this country.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:12

What I'm saying is when we were talking about the grab guns. I don't mean wild wild west. I mean we start going against the the government. We literally stand up and we change how the shit.

SPEAKER_02 2:32:22

Well, they're gonna they're not gonna stand and take it. They have no other choice. They're not gonna but it's gonna be the Nobody wants to lose the comfortability of their family, their children. Nobody wants to lose that. That's not gonna be a peaceful world. Hey, I'm sitting here talking to you right now on the podcast. I'm in the AC, bro. I can go in there and fix me a sandwich right now. I don't want to be sitting out in a holed-out, blew up, sit uh, a cemented building and this neighborhood's torn to shreds. There's no comfortability in me.

SPEAKER_01 2:32:47

I'm in a I'm in a I'm in a Call of Duty type of environment. Let's skill it back. You don't want to go to HEB and it's empty because nobody's filling up HEB. You don't want to go to the gas station and there's no gas because nobody's pumping gas. Who wouldn't be doing that? The people who are paid Jobs, right? Jobs, right?

SPEAKER_02 2:33:06

It sounds to me like you saying that we're comfortable and all this, but you don't mind crashing the system and going to all the hill.

SPEAKER_03 2:33:12

That sounds to me and maybe that's what needs to happen. But who wants that?

SPEAKER_02 2:33:17

Who wants that?

SPEAKER_03 2:33:18

Who wants the system?

SPEAKER_02 2:33:19

So you want you wanna go through, you got so you want to go through a dystopian future. No, I'm asking. I'm asking. Click for this thing, give context like Elon Musk did.

SPEAKER_04 2:33:30

I'm gonna do you like you.

SPEAKER_02 2:33:31

No, I want context like you said. Ellen Musk didn't have to give context to what he said. I want you gotta clear up now. You want to clear up, you you can just say what you said and left it alone, though. According to you can just say what you said and left it alone. Oh, yes. I want to hear more of what Elon had to say when he said there needs to be massive change. But no, according to him, we don't have to do that. So why are you explaining yourself? Say what you say and stand on it. You gotta explain to us why you felt the way you said it, but you want to clear yourself up, right? No, it's not. Because you don't want to be misunderstood. You care about being misunderstood at this point. So it's the same thing. No, it's not this is hyp this is hypocritical conversation.

SPEAKER_04 2:34:02

No, it's not because uh Elon Musk's not having a having a debate. I am, so I have to clarify because you're taking what I'm saying out of context, which you did.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:09

I took what he ain't having no debate with me. You took the debate with me. He dropped the mic, he said what he said, and he dropped the mic. I'm telling you the same thing. Because I'm having a debate with you. You're not having no debate. You just talking, you said your opinion, and then he said what you left and looked.

SPEAKER_05 2:34:21

And then you're taking my words out of context.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:23

You take his words out of context, but he wanted to clear it up, right? He was talking to me. He was talking, was he not talking to you?

SPEAKER_04 2:34:31

He's not.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:31

Was he not talking to me? You believe when you put your statement out there on Facebook on on X, you're putting it out there for the world to see. Am I not part of the world? Agreed, agreed. But that's not a con. Well, I'm a part of Mars. That's not a conversation. Okay, what the world is. On vacation for the fifth.

SPEAKER_04 2:34:46

That's not a conversation. That's a statement.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:49

I can get you on point. I can get on you.

SPEAKER_05 2:34:52

I just blew you out. No, you didn't make a statement. I'm having a conversation. You're explaining yourself. No.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:59

You feel like you want to give context that I misconstrued what he said. But he didn't give no context to what he said.

SPEAKER_04 2:35:04

I'm giving context because he's fucking young. He's talking and he's dead ass wrong. When I try to explain it, he cuts me off. So let me go ahead and go ahead and talk to you people since he's not listening to me. There's a context to that where I say go grab guns. I'm not talking about Wa Wa West. I'm talking about we have to fight against the government. That's when we How do you do that?

SPEAKER_02 2:35:21

What when you say they give us context on that? What does that look like?

SPEAKER_04 2:35:24

What does it look like? Ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking to you. Blast off is on timeout, so I'm gonna continue what I was saying. Uh the conversation I'm saying is it's it's one of those that it's either gonna be you're cool, like I said, go outside of the fence where you're at from now. Don't look at it as money. We're in a capitalistic society. Once that that pendulum swings, it's not gonna be, it's gonna be like pre 20, pre-2019 versus now. Nothing the fucking same. Money's not gonna matter.

SPEAKER_02 2:35:54

We wanna know. Since money's not gonna matter. Okay, we're not talking to him. Blast us talking to the show. We want to know what grab guns mean and go against the government mean. We don't want to hear about the soft explanations. We want to get down to the meat and potatoes. You said grab guns, that's controversial, that's shock value. Please explain what that looks like when we go. We just wondering what does it mean when he says grab guns. We don't want to hear the backstory. We want to know because you didn't want to give us your personal backstory so people can even know who you are. But we want to know what grab guns mean. Well, I gave you plenty of opportunity. But what but what does what does grab guns mean?

SPEAKER_01 2:36:23

If you say grab guns and go to the government, we the people are the government. We don't we need context to that, because that's like saying we need massive state. That means they're empty government buildings where people have jobs, that means you're going after the people who voted those people in the power. That means you're going after the blacks, it means you're going after the liberals.

SPEAKER_02 2:36:41

No, to me, that means you're going into the Senate and you're grabbing guns with inside the Senate.

SPEAKER_03 2:36:44

That means that you're going January the 6th of 20.

SPEAKER_02 2:36:47

That means you're going January the 6th 2020. Is it 2021, 2020? That means you're going into the Capitol.

SPEAKER_01 2:36:57

That means you're going to whenever you try to overthrow a government, there's almost always going to be some form of civil war. The people are going to attack each other because they're going to say that. What does grab guns mean?

SPEAKER_02 2:37:08

Yeah. So I want context too. I do want context too. What give us, we want to know. We don't want to, we don't want to sugar footed, pussy foot. Don't try to be clean on camera. What does it mean to grab guns against B-Row? Say what you say. What does it look like? What does that look like to you? Give us an give us a an illustration so we can picture it and I'm not the listeners. Because we got listeners too. We ain't got people that's on camera, they can watch us too. We also have people that's listening on Apple, on Spotify, on me on Amazon. We got people that's blind. Explain what do you mean by grab guns? Please.

SPEAKER_04 2:37:45

So I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, uh it's very simple.

SPEAKER_02 2:37:50

Nothing. We won't don't stumble. Stand on what you said. We want to know what it looks like. We we still wait.

SPEAKER_04 2:37:58

I I don't understand why it's it's so difficult. Grab guns. There are people like us. When when shit goes south, when AI takes everything, um, and then they look at us and they still want us to figure out a way to to to to come up with money, monetize shit, buy shit, keep this capitalist shit going on, and there's no jobs, then we start we start Mario Luigi motherfuckers. We start.

SPEAKER_02 2:38:21

What does that mean? We don't want Mario Luigi.

SPEAKER_04 2:38:24

We start finding where these people are, the these government officials are, where they're located, and find them and put guns to their face. Jesus. And then, yeah, you want a cold and blood. And then when you when when they tell you they don't have any power, you go to the next one. Eventually you're gonna find somebody that can pull the lever, and we're gonna start changing some shit. And you think lever?

SPEAKER_01 2:38:44

What lever are they gonna pull? What lever is gonna get pulled that's gonna fix things?

SPEAKER_04 2:38:49

So when you go and you have AI taking all your jobs and you're still expecting us to pay money, then you start looking at, okay, cool. What if all of our politicians whose jobs are salaries are 120 to 200, 300,000, and they're all millionaires, cool, on ass and bread. Since we gotta pay shit, we're taking it. So, and so you're saying he asked for clarification. If that's not the lever, then we start taking people. And what I mean by start taking people, like taking hostage. And if that doesn't work, then we start killing girls.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:17

Girl, ladies and gentlemen, imagine a world like this. With this guy, imagine a world and this is what he wants. This is what he said he wants.

SPEAKER_04 2:39:25

No, I want us to be free. I I imagine this by uh by any means necessary, absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:34

Well, earlier I asked you so fucking lully. I'm just, we got this is on tape. You can say what you want to say now, but you on video saying that you want to get out absolutely and get guns to boost the boost the ass. You want to put you want to put boost to the ground. You want to get guns in hands.

SPEAKER_04 2:39:48

When shit hits that far where you're stuck between a dick and a heart.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:52

You want to crash the system.

SPEAKER_04 2:39:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:39:55

And that means you want to be able to go to politicians' doors and make a money-ass two, three hundred thousand dollars. And give us the money. And you think that's gonna look peaceful? You think my baby, you think my son, but hey, I got, I got, I got, I will want, let's tell you what I will want, guys. I will want diplomacy. I will want somebody, I will want to go ahead and start listening to people that are showing from both sides and understanding. Hey, I understand what you've been through. I understand what you've been through. Let's make a medium and let's come together on making this thing go as peacefully as can. Unfortunately, what the brother's saying seems like uh seems likely that at the end of the day, it could be that. That could be real. Because we're being hopeful, seeing what I'm saying. Yeah, you're gonna be able to do that. But if I was if I'm having respect that person is gonna come around, that person is coming. But let me tell you what I I truly believe that what he says is gonna happen first before that other person comes. But I'm not saying that that's what I want, what he wants. I want somebody to say I don't I don't I want peace. I want peace, I want a broker peace without having to go through all of this to this dystopian type of stuff. I I I do but is that even possible and freedom isn't freedom. It's possible. It's anything is possible in a human element.

SPEAKER_04 2:41:18

The system's not broken.

SPEAKER_02 2:41:19

Anything is possible in the human element. What is the ultimate form of wealth?

SPEAKER_01 2:41:28

Slavery. What is the ultimate form of slavery? AI. There is no form of wealth greater than AI. There is no for there is no form of labor cheaper than AI. There is no form of human uh uh human manipulation greater than the manipulation of AI. A workforce that does not sleep, that does not eat, that can work 24-7, that can create whatever you want. Even in the what did Sarah Connor say? What did Sarah Connor say? Can you quote Sarah Connors? Even in an ideal uh society where everything is sunshine and rainbows, AR, I want you to generate an ice cream code. Can you can you quote it?

SPEAKER_02 2:42:14

Can you quote the ice cream code? Can you quote the great still a foremost? Can you quote the late guy? Can you quote the late great Sarah Connors? I don't I don't know what she said, bro. I don't know what she said. They don't sleep. They never gonna stop coming. Never gonna stop coming. You can't reason with it. Or whatever, what that wasn't even that wasn't even that was the first guy in the first Terminator, the first John Connor. You can't reason with them. They don't sleep, they don't feel, they don't feel emotion. They gonna keep coming. Our goal as humanity has always been with the capitalist system, like you said, we're to work towards that. Oh, this this was the point of computer. Is this let me ask you this though, right? Let me ask you this though. This was why computers were invented a thousand years ago in Greece. Let me ask you this. This is why they were thousands of years ago. Well, when you say computers, you're gonna sound crazy to people that don't know the history and stuff. So you can't just say stuff like that. But the point about it. The point I'm saying is, is this part, is this just a necessary evil?

SPEAKER_04 2:43:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:43:11

To have for the evolution of the human race. To have the evolution of the human race.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:15

This is gonna answer your question. No, no, this is asking your question. Do you think those in power will ever give up what they have and at least give it back, at least make it bounce across the board?

SPEAKER_02 2:43:23

Ever. On their own. Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Answer the question. I just did. If I'm corrupt, if I'm absolutely corrupted, then they answer it.

SPEAKER_04 2:43:33

Okay, so then yes, it it was inevitable it's gonna come to that point at some point in our history. Because, again, it's not designed to work that way. Those in power aren't moving that way. We have motherfuckers now, like again, Chicago, what I was telling you about, the mayor of Chicago asking about Trump out, they keep asking money. They already got their police money. Where it went to, immigrants. Like, they don't want crime cleaned up because it's a racket. If I have nonprofits, if I have five or six nonprofits talking about we're gonna clean up the hood and shit like that, I'm getting billions spending thousands.

SPEAKER_01 2:44:08

Are you gonna fund those organizations? No!

SPEAKER_04 2:44:11

Goofy ass turkeys, those those shitty ass toy drives they do, that the community thinks they're doing something. They they show up every now and then to your son's hearing, it's a fuck up. None of that fucking matters. It's all about the fucking almighty dollar. And that's the problem, is it's gonna get to a point where they're no longer gonna be able to do dollars. So it's the reason why I think that it's gonna go the way of the grab guns and shit, because it's not gonna be the other option. It's gonna be the option of the sense of they want more control. That's gonna be the end all. Because once you get rid of human nature, once you get rid of the the option of taking away your money, and now I I've gotten that, the only thing left is your freedom, your autonomy. So that's why the whole I want it to crash, because the way it's designed, it's designed for oppression. It's designed for the for a minority to own the majority of wealth. It's designed to keep us where we're at.

SPEAKER_01 2:44:59

It's always built that way.

SPEAKER_04 2:45:01

It's it like there's a book. Um, everybody needs to read it if you really want to get an idea of how why our government isn't broken at the stating point, no matter what's happening, how fucked up it is. It's called Fruit of the Poisonous Tree. There's a reason why we go off of Black's dictionary and not actual common law, common language. There's a reason why we we we use maritime law instead of regular law. Like this shit is designed against us. So, yeah, at some point I want this bitch to crash because this bitch was never meant to benefit us. We've just been turning shit to sugar for so long it we made it work for us.

SPEAKER_01 2:45:32

We made it work for us. And all I'm saying is we're so conditioned to that that it would actually be detrimental to the people living now for our age. Fuck them.

SPEAKER_04 2:45:40

But fuck them. If you're not resilient enough to say that you lost your job, you lost your purpose.

SPEAKER_01 2:45:45

But it's easy to say fuck them until it's your parents who are suffering, until it's your kids who are suffering. It's easy to, right, Daryl, it's easy to say anything until you see the people that you love suffer in this system. It's very, very easy to say that. Here's the thing about that. I'd rather, hey, hey, I be being honest, I would rather my great-grandchildren go through suffering and pain and agony than my children. That's just me. I'm not gonna know my great-grandchildren.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:14

I'm I'm gonna pose you a different one. That's that's a case. Under the weight kings currently now, are we not suffering? Yes, of course. Fuck them!

SPEAKER_05 2:46:22

We're suffering either way.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:24

At least we're suffering for a cause that's better than what we got now. Fuck them. AI, take away all the jobs. Easy to see. Let motherfuckers figure out what they're gonna do with life. You're gonna have a few snowflakes, they're gonna lose their shit because they ain't got a job.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:36

Because guess what? We got it easier than what our parents had it.

SPEAKER_04 2:46:39

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:40

And they got it easier than when they parents. Nugga, man, they were dealing with discrimination on another level. It's different.

SPEAKER_01 2:46:47

But they were dealing on they also weren't dealing with algorithms poisoning your mind.

SPEAKER_02 2:46:50

They weren't dealing with mass uh with all sorts of mass addiction and all this stuff. Listen, you're we might be comparing what we're living now suffering than what they were going to do. Bro, they were suffering.

SPEAKER_01 2:47:01

We weren't suffering like rule, and we weren't suffering Jim Crow, and we weren't suffering all that. But some people might prefer the in your face down on the ground discrimination than something.

SPEAKER_04 2:47:14

I wouldn't think that you can compare. I that's what I say. It's a different kind of suffering. I wouldn't necessarily compare because, like, like he said.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:22

We the most spoiled generation in the history of this country. I'll give you that. We're spoiled, we're spoiled. We're sitting here, it's 87 degrees outside. We in here is 70 some degrees. We don't have to real meat. We want ice. I don't have, we don't have me. What are you talking about? We don't have all that real shit. Blasphemy. This is real. You know for you to have the knowledge to say that we don't have real meat is this is a is a clue that we do got real meat. Sir. You don't buy real meat. I go buy real beef.

SPEAKER_04 2:47:55

McDonald's, McDonald's sells more beef than we sell, than we raise cattle. Every year.

SPEAKER_02 2:47:59

Every year. What is that? What I'm saying is Wait, time out, time out. So wait, time out. Time out, time out. You got the other real meat. He's saying we don't have real meat. You got fake meat and you got real meat. I go buy me some real meat. He eating soil, he's eating soil and green, Lloyd, ladies and gentlemen. Listen, guys, we've already, I think, I think, I think that the I think that the population and that the viewers have already determined that you straight local. You know what soil and green is, right? You older than me. And I think that, how you know that, man? We ain't what how what are we talking about ages, man? Because you got grandchildren. That don't mean that I'm older than you. I guarantee you're older than me. We ain't gonna go into old damn. I'm guaranteeing I'm probably not.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:40

I guarantee you're older than me because uh uh uh uh uh Eli told me you're older than me a while back. The president. The pres. My bad.

unknown 2:48:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:48:46

I'm gonna blame you.

SPEAKER_05 2:48:47

You burn my name too, nigga. Fuck you. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 2:48:51

I am the youngest one here. Yeah. But yeah, no, um I don't think that it's gonna be that hard of a choice. Like, I because like uh when you look at a lot of people, yeah, there's a few that like really take enjoyment or take some type of gratification of the good work they do at their job. But the mass majority of us are just tired, bro. Like a mass majority of. Because like the like, for example, our age range, right? We were sold a lie. What do you do? You go to school, you get your grades, either once you graduate high school, you either go to college, you go to a uh uh uh trade program, or you go in in the workforce. What do you do after that? You work 30, 40, 50 years, you retire out. In that process, you have what? You get married, you have kids, you buy a house, white pick your fence, everything's lovely, you pay your taxes, you do right, you you do all the things you're supposed to do, and life's you're gonna have your your hardships, but life should play out at a normal standpoint, at a normal pace.

SPEAKER_01 2:49:49

30 year dreams.

SPEAKER_04 2:49:50

We grew up, we got out of high school, we started doing what they told us, and they just pulled the rug from us. Nobody's buying houses. Shit, there wasn't no rug. Because the house is crazy right now. Nobody people aren't buying cars. People are are telling us. The tariffs race are crazy. People are turning in their tariffs are crazy. My nigga, you can put a burger on credit at this point. They're at this point allowing you to put a cheeseburger on credit. That's something different. I mean, if you buy it with your credit card, I mean that was always. No, no, no. I'm talking about like so, DoorDash shit. Like that, you can actually, instead of paying on with your card, you can get a DoorDash credit card and pay it on credit. We've been conditioned to accept less and less. I actually pulled this up, right? I was looking at the Great Depression versus now. Do you know we make less than most people did, like comparatively than the Great Depression? In the Great Depression, motherfuckers will offer themselves and shit. Like, we're tired, boss.

SPEAKER_02 2:50:42

Like, we've been so reasonable we're not offering ourselves is because we got our digital stuff that can keep us going. Entertained. Entertained. Because without it, we would have been up and arms.

SPEAKER_04 2:50:52

Oh no, the trolling me is. Imagine being well. The trolling me is gonna be you're gonna have to do something stronger than lie to me to kill me. I'm not, I I'm never never taking myself out. I've been homeless. Right, right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:51:01

But I'm saying I can see how many bad situations.

SPEAKER_04 2:51:04

I can I'm guarantee you. You know what? You know what? I take a lie back. I take a lie back. I take the lie back. I get old and it gets to a point where it's like they don't find a way to make it where we can survive longer, and it gets rickety and motherfuckers do some weird shit, and I gotta start calling people by Zim Zer and shit like that, I might eat a bullet. But as it stands right now, there's nothing currently that'll get make me end it all. You can take everything away from me. I'm a I'm I'm gonna I'm for the the the righteous rowdiness, the the rebellious spirit in me, I'ma prove to you that you can't do enough to make me get to that point. Yeah, it it'll never be that bad. Like, like I said, the only thing that I can also possibly like I've been through the ringer. Only thing I can possibly think of is if like shit get real, real bad, and I'm like, like old, ain't nobody around to take care of me, and I got some idiots dealing with me, I might just go ahead and go to Way O'Yellow. But outside of that, yeah, nah, you can never make it so bad that I want to kill myself. And I know that sounds like a lot, but it's just that there's always a way. Like I'm always like in the process of you can always find figure a way out, think a way out, you know, maneuver a way out. You just gotta have time and and and amount of like you know, Batman, preparation. You gotta gotta gotta get yourself together and you can always figure your way out of any situation. But the whole idea of you lost your job, so you lost your identity, that's a problem. Like, we gotta look at it at the standpoint of like, are we here, like we've been asking that question the Donna since the Donna Man, like, what is our purpose here? It damn sure ain't paying taxes, and it damn sure ain't working for a job that don't give a shit about you. Um, so that I mean that's just where I am with it. Like, I the system is is fucked up and corrupt, and there's no fixing something that's meant to work. Like, you can't take something that's working and then try to fix it or work something else. So you you'd be you're putting too much effort instead of just building something completely new that's to your liking. And this system is not busted, but it's definitely not to our liking.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:03

You know what though? Uh you made some great points on that. Uh bro. We we at the bottom of the episode getting ready to wrap this up. Can we get a backstory on What do you want?

SPEAKER_04 2:53:15

I hate talking about myself. What you want to know?

SPEAKER_02 2:53:17

But but folks gotta know you. They gotta know where to find you. They gotta know if they want to find you. First of social media, like what can you do? Y'all can't follow me.

SPEAKER_05 2:53:25

Social media ain't real.

SPEAKER_04 2:53:25

Y'all can't find me on there. If you find me, you find me. Those that need to find me, follow me. But uh, as far as like Like do you have an Instagram where people can follow you?

SPEAKER_02 2:53:34

You got a I mean I do, but they can't follow me.

SPEAKER_04 2:53:36

I know people mostly like that's not so we got a mysterious guy on the show. Nah, I'm not here for you.

SPEAKER_02 2:53:41

You don't have a Twitter or X an X account where people can follow your opinion. You got you got well, see, here go the thing. You're a controversy guy. You're a controversial guy. People might people might agree with your points and rhetorics, and people might want to come on or might want to give you comments and leave you encouragement or or relieve you ridicule. Hey, then hide from the masses. If they come in with smoke, or if they come in with praise, where can they find you, bro? What can what what do you say? What social do you share publicly? Like we like, hey, look, hey, I'm grizzly green.

SPEAKER_05 2:54:09

If y'all want to see me more, tell tell them that y'all want me on Mars and I'll come back.

SPEAKER_02 2:54:14

Nah, we that ain't that goes without saying. You you do back. But the point is, Grizzly Green.

SPEAKER_05 2:54:21

I'm in private, public, private, and public public. I'm a private, private Negro. Y'all can't follow me. No. Y'all can see me here. Y'all can get these thoughts here, fresh and hot out off the dome, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:54:32

Well, we're gonna maybe he could come up with one specifically for this. He'll let y'all know if he comes up with something specifically for people that want to come with his content.

SPEAKER_04 2:54:39

I'll think about making one, right? Right. Next time we do something, I might come up with something just for y'all if y'all want to send me love letters.

SPEAKER_02 2:54:45

Right. And if we come up with it, man, and he comes up with it before the episode is, you know, published, which is gonna be very soon here, because we got some great content to put out. Um, we will share that into the episode. So maybe he leaves here and he shares something. Do you got an email where people can email you or anything?

SPEAKER_04 2:55:01

I mean, no.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:03

Okay. I don't got You got a phone number where they can call you direct. No, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 2:55:09

Like, I'm I'm not really like I'm here to give out whatever little bit of tidbit I got, make y'all think, and then vanish in the smoke. I'm not important.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:17

So final thoughts before we wrap this thing up. You believe in, you know. I believe in a lot of things. That, you know, we are the problem.

SPEAKER_04 2:55:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:32

You believe that, yeah. And you believe that we are the we are the number one concern in America as far as the general public. Not to spend public enemy number one.

SPEAKER_04 2:55:39

I didn't say that. Not to spin up a whole other topic that we can go off on, but I I do believe that there's parts of our culture that we that we, not other people, but we need to address as the black community.

SPEAKER_02 2:55:50

Do you believe that that's part of what we've been through though? Because you've had 400 years of how many years of slavery do you think that they had in this country they were practicing? Was it 400? And then you released them from that, that you made them fight and scrounge and scrap for survival, and I'm got more than you. I'm here in this house with them. You out there working hard, I'm living like easy. Oh, I got, I'm not poor, I got the shoes on, I got the jury on, I'm not no slave, I'm not the rhetoric was created through slavery. Do you not agree with that? Like, hey, I'm not, I'm not the poor black. I'm not the poor black guy. And then, and then wait, before I let you go, and then do you believe that now you had them under this chaos for up to 400 years and then you release them for the last 60, last hundred years, let's just say last hundred years, that they can change that being treated like an animal for so long and then releasing them with that. Do you not believe that we're becoming better? More doctors, more lawyers, more prominent, more socioeconomic. Economically successful, the infrastructure around is being more successful, the woke, the awakening of the, you know, I believe it's getting better. And I believe that that's the danger. My personal belief is that we're getting better. The crimes and the realizations that what we do is getting better. There's more fathers in the home now than ever before. The black American man is the most statistically available for their children in the home. You can say what you want to say. They can say all these numbers out, but black American men, it's statistically a fact that they do better with child rearing and raising their kids when they are in the home.

SPEAKER_04 2:57:18

I agree. But when I say that we gotta do more, um, two things can be true at the same time. Um there are, again, I I will never discard or disgrace racism, which still active, um, systemic and otherwise, all that. But there's things that we do as a culture that's detrimental to us that ain't got that that that it it can't, we can't look and blame slavery or what's happened before on us. There's like slavery doesn't mean that doesn't mean we walk around outside in bonnets and do-rags and shake our ass everywhere and half naked and and being rude and rowdy or disrespectful. Like, like slavery and brutality doesn't do that. That's just bad habits that we decide to choose to to to champion. This there's just things that we need to fix that in inside of our culture outside of crime that perpetuates it. Like single, like, you know, single parenthood. We gotta fix that. That fixed a lot of the the knuckleheads that go around shooting and killing each other. We gotta we gotta start building up a community so that there's not the the the the the the drive to go to these gangs and these negative portions of society that drives up those statistics. I think that yes, systemically through the the the the our our our government there's problems, but then there's also problems that we can fix on our own. The government has nothing to do with the racism, slavery, we we just gotta be better.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:47

But of course, it's a s but the whole thing is it's not a racial issue. It's a systemic issue.

SPEAKER_04 2:58:54

Well, it's a class issue. Racism is a classic.

SPEAKER_02 2:58:58

It is a it is a uh offshoot of the system. And those people, it's not saying it's not totally, we're not gonna sit there and say it's not totally about race, but to say that they're doing this because of their race, that's the whether it's wrong. They're just they just like that. But if you took them out of that and you gave them all, if you didn't put them in slavery, this still would be happening. That's what that's not true. If you took them and you gave them the same fair share of red resources and infrastructure. That's the systemic part, but that's the right thing. Then this still would be happening. That's not true. Give the same situation, same scenarios, and then do the then do your comparison. Then you can make that without the same playing field, the same level playing field, and the same where people don't have to fight or feel like they have to fight, or feel like they have to steal, or feel like they have to go have my system, it's not right for me to have this baby. I'm not set up right. Let me go go to the abortion clinic because I don't have the resources or the support or the or the upbringing. There are people that just brought up in systems of poverty, yeah, systems of Section 8, system of food stamps, and they grow up and they pass that down generationally and generationally, and they think that's how it's supposed to be. Yeah, that's it. Instead of saying, instead of say, and and so when you sit and but then they relate that to race. This was given. You give somebody something, they're not gonna be comfortable with giving it up. You make it easy for somebody to get access to a living or food, and they know all they gotta do is maintain a little job here and keep a man out of the house to be able to have these benefits. That's gonna be a systemic thing. You give women that type of power. Hey, uh, if you got a man in here and we find you got a man in here, we're gonna take your that's encouraging a problem. That's not that is uh that is that's where the problems lie at.

SPEAKER_04 3:00:45

Well, I mean, that was that was that was actual way to destabilize the black house.

SPEAKER_02 3:00:49

And that's where the problem lies at in the community. That's why there's not fathers in homes prevailing, or that's that's why that problem stems, that's where that problem was rooted at. Because in the 50s and the 40s and 50s and 60s, people, the families were more together. But when they came up with the federal government funding programs and the social services programs, and then you remove the man out of the home, because believe it or not, it's still to this day, and it's proven fact. How many of you know that dads are more of a disciplinarian, more of a realist for their children, give them more of a realistic outlook? Moms are nurturers, they're caretakers, they're empathetic, they give it to you in a softer view. And the dads just tend this tendencies, just talking about tendencies. Men tend to be rougher than women. They can give a child more, but then when you encourage, hey, take them out, put him out the home and we'll hit him for money. We'll take his money out of his check at the same time. So you can get this government assistance, you can get this this this this this this home to live in at a discounted rate, and on top of that, if you have a man and you dis and you leave him, we'll give you half of what he has. Vice versa now. It's it goes both ways, rarer, but we'll give you half of what he has, we'll make him send you money for 18 years for this child. So then they're encouraged. Let's keep having children. There are people that live like this. I gotta have a child to be able to keep getting these government benefits. It's starting to go away now because they've cracking down on this crap. Now it's starting to get woke. And these are the aspects of the Trump presidency that I can personally say I appreciate. I don't know about you guys. Break the cycle of gift giving and being on a crutch of being dependent on the government. Get out there and work a star. Get out there and put two put something into the economy or star. With that being said, it ain't gonna change. And it may never change as long as you got people in power pushing the narrative that these are what needs to happen or that one people, a group of people are just unfixable. It's not true. Go outside right now. I challenge most of you to go outside right now and walk down your street. I challenge most of you to go walk into the to the to the to the to the black mall or go walk into the white mall or the Asian mall. You're gonna probably go shopping and gonna be six and and go and and now I ain't telling you if you know they're selling crack in front of the mall to go do that or nothing. I ain't telling you go walk out in the dark, but most of you in a comfortable situation. Some of you not. But some of you got to understand it's not about black or white, it's about the elite and the have nots. And it's also about good and evil. And that's where the power lies. If you got good the elite in charge, but they worshiping, practicing witchcraft and practicing sacrifices and all this old rumored stuff that's going on, you're lost. If you got people that are adopting children from other countries and then they bringing them over here and they man, and then they turning them in their female, I'm calling that Charlie Steron. I'm calling- I'm calling Nash, I'm saying names. I don't like what she did. If that's what they want to do, but I don't believe in bringing a child here at the age of five, six, seven, eight, and then you automatically let a child be a child. You automatically turn determining that child's future at that age. That was both of them? That's another topic for another day. You believe in trans kids? Listen, where are you well, can you give us a backstory on you, man?

SPEAKER_03 3:04:32

Can we be gentlemen? We really appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_05 3:04:35

What you want to know? You keep asking that.

SPEAKER_02 3:04:37

Where are you originating from? Uh, my mother's womb. But where what what what state are you from? I'm from Cali. Okay. Uh-huh. So, uh-huh. Are you asking me, do I believe in trans kids? You believe in trans kids. Listen, I don't believe in kids determining sexuality as a kid, as a young baby. And you believe in trans kids. There are there are trans kids out here.

SPEAKER_05 3:05:02

You believe that?

SPEAKER_02 3:05:03

They're out here. I don't believe that. No, wait, let me tell you something. When you say, do I believe that they're trans kids? Look at Magic Johnson's uh Magic Johnson's son. Look at Dwayne Wade's son, look at Shalise Theron's sons. So they're out there. Well, you ask me, do I believe that they know a determinated sexual identity? No.

SPEAKER_04 3:05:18

There's no such thing as trans kids.

SPEAKER_02 3:05:21

Well, we ain't agree. I don't I don't know what you're trying to bust me on, but we are in agreement on that.

SPEAKER_04 3:05:25

Did I not ask a simple question? I said, do you not believe there?

SPEAKER_02 3:05:28

No, I don't believe that there should be trans kids. No.

SPEAKER_05 3:05:31

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:05:32

And that's what I just, if you're listening, I just spoke out against that.

SPEAKER_04 3:05:35

I know that's the reason why I said that. Because you said I said, so that's it was basically being funny. I was like, you don't believe in trans kids.

SPEAKER_02 3:05:40

No, no, I I don't believe that you should play with a child, a child's sexuality. They shouldn't even be aware of sexuality. They shouldn't play with a child's sexuality. They shouldn't even be aware of sexual their penis or dingling at six, seven years. I mean, they should be aware that they got that, but to be relating it to sexuality, no, I don't believe it. But unfortunately, in the world today, it's impossible pretty much with technology and phones and stuff, access to that type of technology to not even determine kids are back then. Like I say, we was access to porn. It was hard to get access to dirty magazines and videotapes and stuff back then as a child. No, it was harder. It was harder. It was harder. Really? It was harder. For me, yeah, for me. For me?

SPEAKER_05 3:06:17

I just walked in the store, went to the dirty man, grabbed the magazine, stuck it in my pants, and went back.

SPEAKER_02 3:06:21

You had to go take all those extreme limitations to do that now. They weren't paying attention to you. You grew up in the wrong neighborhood where they was letting you do that.

SPEAKER_04 3:06:31

I was growing, I grew up in foreign neighborhoods, didn't give a shit about non-foreign kids.

SPEAKER_02 3:06:35

And there you go. So they let you walk out with some money, but that's fine. The point of it is.

SPEAKER_04 3:06:39

Well, those niggas never saw me going to the adult thing as a child. Like they never say anything. So since they never say anything, they never saw me really like trying to like walk up on and never check me. Right. So by the time I went to the front, the motherfuckers in my pants. That's all. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:06:51

Well, anyway, guys, uh we out of time here today, man. But it was a great honor, man. And we this guy will be back. He probably be back the next time we pop up. But we got some fire feel. We got some, we got some. We can I ran them up, but by damn it ran them up. Yeah. We got we got some episodes, man, that we're gonna drop, and we got some special guests that have already came. And man, we got some content that put out, man. But you know, and all seriousness, man, to end this show to go back at the top. You know, it's all about good and and and evil, man. And and and and and and serious, all seriousness. I know I was passionate about this earlier, and we all feel the same. Stuff that happened today, like what happened to Charlie Kirk, man, stuff like that. All right should not happen, bro. Nah, it should not happen. It should never get to that point. That brother was only just doing debate. He has the right to say what he says, he has the right to feel how he feels. Although he may come out with withdraw some dangerous talking points, it still shouldn't matter. He should still be allowed today to go home to his wife and his kids, man. Facts. You know, we that's what the power of free speech is. That's the first amendment.

SPEAKER_01 3:07:59

Is a piece of shit. Yeah, you're a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 3:08:02

You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. We hope you unsubscribe, you lousy piece of shit.

SPEAKER_04 3:08:09

And it also shows how weak your argument is that you had to resort to violence. That just meant was trash.

SPEAKER_02 3:08:15

But it is ironic that Charlie Kirk's talking points was one of the it was one of his positive talking points, was one of the points that he didn't, it was less likely to actually took him out. If we're if what's to be heard and reported is true. I still disagree. I call it already. I call it already. He calls it, he I don't know. He still he says it's sad. I don't know. And it is sad. Two things can be true at the same time. Very true. So anyway, Pris, you know, it's your boy Blastoff here. Hey, y'all can find us, man, on X at uh blast off underscore ENT, uh, on on um on Instagram at bla uh blast off um ENT code, blast off ENT, and uh email us, man, info at blast off. So you always hit me a presidential on X, presidential with a Z. Yeah, and an I at the end. And an I instead of an L. Yeah. Capital, it's a capital I, so it looks like an L, but it's spelled presidential, but that last L spell it with a, I mean that last L spell it with a capital I. You can find them on X at that too. Space City. Grizzly Green, man. We thank you for coming in, bro. Hey, we can't do stuff like we need people like you. We can't do it without you, bro. We can't do it without you guys, man. Y'all tap in, we back live, man. We're gonna be more consistent, man. More episodes. It's 2025, man. Y'all stay safe out there. Y'all go ahead, man, and like, like and tap in, man. And like and subscribe to the Blast Off, the uh Blast Off Entertainment Co. on YouTube, guys. And uh, we thank you, man. We appreciate from the secret location number, everybody. We out. We out, baby.