HOO HOO HOOSIERS Natty Champs! - CFP Final and More "Offseason Craziness"

T Huck and Marler discuss the most improbable story that college football may ever see and finish off with crazy offseason moves in the portal and a professional basketball player coming back to his alma mater MIDSEASON

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Intro and Banter

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Thanks for watching. And now to your host, Chris Marler and T Hawk.

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Look at that intro from the booze himself. Welcome to Forth and Wrong. Today is Wednesday, January 21st, 2026. Unfortunately, the college football season is now over. Chris. Terrible. But in today's episode, we will react to the college football championship game and we'll talk a little more. Portal, some rumors, some groomers, maybe.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

Oh God. Not again.

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No groomers. No groomers. And much more. Welcome to the show, Chris. What'd you think of Monday night?

SPEAKER_05 1:10

Well, I was watching Raw, so I missed most of it. Pretty good match.

CFP Final 1st Half

SPEAKER_05 1:16

Pretty good match. I hated the way it ended because of the way like the Carson Beck stat, like some of the stats that came out from this were fucking insane. And one of them was like, I guess he has lost six games in his career. And all six man, Eddie. I mean, Eddie, you didn't put this set up for my my Twitter. Um, it is it was it was kind of like mind-blowing to me that he's had six losses in in his entire career, four of them were on the on the last play of the game, and I think three of those were like his uh on interceptions. I like it. Those were all three of the losses this year. So I I felt bad for him. You know, there's the stuff he's had to go through, man. Just his his incredible journey. Um maybe we should start there. That was that was kind of wild. I I thought it was a really good game. I was really impressed with Indiana. I think if you're Miami for the first time in a in a long time, if you're talking about Mario Cristobal, like now you like any of the what ifs all feel kind of valid because it's like if you don't have the punt blocked and you don't miss that field goal and you just are adequate on special teams, you probably win that game. And that's gotta be a tough pill to swallow. But it was nice to see that stadium full.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Yeah, for the first time in a while. You know, every uh every time there's a big school that comes in as a as a visiting team, they usually get that place cranking. So that's good. Um, look, Miami for for the most part felt like they were the better team in the like way better in the second half, at least. Um, it find kind of felt like Indiana had to get a couple miracles there with the the block punt, the crazy run by Mendoza, um, and then you know, obviously Carson Beck just making a terrible decision. I was starting to feel once Miami hit about midfield on that last uh drive before Carson Beck threw the pick. I was starting to feel a little bad for Indiana fans because uh they basically would have had the game completely won had they just not false started. Right, right. Like that was insane. I was like, is that how they're gonna lose this season? Like the perfect season, the underdog story, though they were favorite in the game, obviously, but just yeah as a whole. Um on a false start from a kid who's an all-American left tackle. But they found a way, um, as they have all season, and what a story. I mean, Mendoza for the most part, to be honest, wasn't great for the game, but he made some key plays.

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214 passing yards into that. And also, Miami was able to run the football and and get pressure, and like I mean, they that was that was shocking to me that they were able to run the football so effectively. Um, Malachi Tony was awesome, as usual. Like that kid's gonna be a star. When he plays in Ohio State in two years, he's gonna make so much money.

SPEAKER_04 4:16

Yeah, what dude, we'll talk about the portal in a minute, but I mean, apparently these days it's like you don't not only do you not like could you be signed under contract for another year with your school and just completely void it, potentially with no consequences. You could potentially be playing in a professional league and come back and just say, still some eligibility left. It's wild. We'll get into it.

SPEAKER_05 4:42

It's it's happening at Bama, which like so you know, the good guys are winning. Thank God. Um, I'm kidding about that. No, what was your take on the game?

SPEAKER_04 4:51

Um I mean, obviously, in the first half, Indiana, especially on defense, was dominant. I mean, I think Miami had eight third downs that they didn't convert before they finally converted one, and that was in the second half. Um, couldn't get a drive on Indiana. Um they finally drive down, and I was like, man, you know, after what was seemingly a dominant half for Indiana, like Miami's about to kick a field goal here and just be right in it, and then they missed the field goal. Consequently, it hit the upright. Real shame to see Miami lose basically on a wide right field goal, but I will say, um, it wasn't totally wide right, it did hit the upright, and and then I saw someone on Twitter turn that loud ass sound into a blues traveler song. What was the song? It's just you know that actually, was it Dave Matthews? I don't know, I can't remember, but it was Dave Matthews, yeah. And it was just boom, they just kept playing that over, and it was perfect.

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Down now. That song.

SPEAKER_04 5:57

Yeah, yes, exactly. Yeah, it's yeah, it was it was Dave Matthews, yeah. So it was perfect. Um and then the second half starts, and you just feel Miami coming back in the game. Yeah, and honestly, they were the much better team in the second half. Um without that blocked punt, and I don't know if you saw on Twitter too. I was actually explaining to my girlfriend when we're watching the game together, and I I I basically transferred all the anxiety I get when punts go off for the punt returner to her. She's never actually thought about what goes into a punt return. She's like, it's gonna be awful. That's what I said.

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I just looking at me.

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She's like, I just assume they just catch it every time. I'm like, let's let's break down what's actually happening here. That guy right there, because I was saying, why would he catch that on the four-yard line? Upon it's explaining to her, you know, heels on the 10. Football guys like us, we get it all the time.

SPEAKER_05 6:49

We you don't have to explain it to five is the new 10, which is shocking to me. It doesn't make much sense. No, but like I feel like 10 should still be the same, put it the fucking eight. It but like either way, it's it makes no sense to me. Go on.

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And I was like, Imagine that guy. Uh I was like, Well, I shouldn't talk shit about him catching at the five because of all the stress he's probably under in that moment. She's like, What's so stressful about it? Like, he's just catching the ball. And I was like, So I explained it. I said, There's probably 20 million people watching on TV, another packed stadium, all eyes are only on him, nobody's watching anything else. And not only uh that, but you're staring up to the sky at a ball, which is going to come down and potentially hit your face mask or hit off your shoulder pads. So you have to catch it perfectly, and meanwhile, you can't see anybody running at you, but you know there are you can hear them, you can hear them, and you know that there's 11 grown men sprinting at you to hurt you.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

And they're also the the up the the the gunners are like they're probably sub four or five guys, right? Just barreling down at you, and you know, especially with it being like like Miami, um, and and like I mean, probably not so much Indiana, but I'm sure that Miami on on when they are on uh what do you call it? Actually punting, um you know it's some of the most horrific, not suitable for work shit imaginable being screened out of those face masks. And also the other part of it, too, is it like I remember one time I was playing, I was playing baseball like in college, and I was playing first base, and I was kind of a bitch anyway, so it's like I'm probably not the best example out of this, but there was a pop-up hit into foul territory right in front of our dugout, like in between, like first base was directly next to me because I was playing off the bag and there was a runner on first, or I was I was I was coming off the bag running on running first, and it was probably 10 feet in front of me and then foul territory, and I'm like under it, and the runner comes by and goes, I got it, I got it. And I I like backed off, and it's like it's clearly my ball. Like, there's no no reason for me to not have jurisdiction here, it's not ice. Am I right, Eddie? Right, Eddie? Eddie hates politics, and I don't I was just saying it's to make him uncomfortable. It has not a real bearing of how I feel about things. Anyway, the ball lands, and I think it actually like squirted back into um fair territory, and then so then I so then the guy's on first, and I'm just standing there next to him, and his coach is like, Would you ever fucking do that Bush League shit again? And there was like 12 people in the stands, all parents. So I can only imagine what it was like having to catch this in front of Fernando Mendoza's hot ass aunt.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

Yeah, she she's not bad on the eyes. Um, but then you go on Twitter and you see like the basically the sky view of that play that Miami had tried to set up a fake punt on the Malachi Tony where he fielded at the four. Like they said, if if it had not been such a good punt that the dude, you know, they had basically run uh one of the guys all the way over to the left-hand side, and my guess was he was gonna catch it and throw it over there, and there was not a soul in front of him. No. Um, but because it was such a great punt, and again, back to Indiana being basically good at everything they do, like just perfect execution.

SPEAKER_05 10:13

So um this was the worst we have seen them look all year. Like, like uh, and I want you to think about what I just said. Them winning the national championship at Miami against Miami was the worst we've seen them play, arguably, all year. They were they were bad in pre-snap penalties, they did a lot of uncharacter characteristic things, they didn't have a ton of balance, they they weren't able to stop the run immediately, like like they had been against everyone else they played. I mean, this was when they still were able to win the game. It was awesome, man. It was it's Fernando Mendoza. Did you see his his his post afterwards? Like on Twitter? No, no, I'm I'm glad you asked, Tyler. It's not on Twitter because he doesn't have Twitter. He posted to one social media platform and that was it. Do you want to take a guess at which one it was?

SPEAKER_04 11:03

It's LinkedIn. He's talking about B2B sales.

SPEAKER_05 11:06

LinkedIn, B2B sales. Carson Beck is like already in someone's Snapchat. I like just dick picks galore, just mass text dick picks, and Fernando Mendoza is going on to LinkedIn, a place he'll never need because he's gonna go make $52 million with a first round, first overall pick in the NFL draft.

SPEAKER_04 11:30

Why is he so into B2B sales?

SPEAKER_05 11:33

I mean, I don't know. The better question is why is he not more into BBC sales? Am I right, Eddie? Am I right? Also, can we can we talk about one of the most awkward moments ever? I don't you were watching the game with your girlfriend.

SPEAKER_04 11:45

Yep. Eddie, I want you to come in for this part. She asked me what special teams was. So that was special in itself. That sucks. Yeah. Um I mean, you know, this is an Auburn grad who lived through the kick six.

SPEAKER_05 12:01

Oh, why are you fucking she don't know?

SPEAKER_04 12:03

I bet her mom knows. She probably does. Paula uh fine mom.

SPEAKER_05 12:11

That's good. We did we mess that up, or did you think that last week? I did.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_05 12:16

Okay, I I don't I forgot about that part. I for I remember the Paula part. That's good. Fine mom. Yeah. Um yeah, we'll have a she'll be a regular guest as long as you guys are, you know. Um, but also, Eddie, I want you to come in for this part, and I don't want you to be weird about it. Did any of you have an incident with the Abella Danger part of the broadcast? Who's that? Uh what? Yeah, what are you talking about? Good answer. So professionals.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

This is a professional podcast with professional hosts and co-hosts.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

Eddie, find a actually don't don't find a picture because I can only imagine what would happen if you googled that name. But one of the biggest stars off the field and on the dick this entire postseason was a Bella Danger. And what was great, like I don't, I'm not into that. I don't, I did, I genuinely didn't know who she was. I like I'd heard the name a bunch, and I just made the assumptions because all the content or people or the jokes people were making, I was like, she's clearly like I thought she's like an OnlyFans person, or like, or like I at first I thought she was Johnny Manzell's girlfriend, and then I then it was like, okay, well, maybe it's it's like something else. I had no idea who this was, and I was smart enough to not put two and two together, be like, Well, I should Google it. Like, uh, like, because I just it felt very obvious once they showed her. I was like, that's gotta be, that's probably not a real name. A belt danger. Come on, and so just you know, reasonable.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

So how do you react? How'd you react in the moment?

SPEAKER_05 13:44

I I didn't know who it was, and I was on my phone, so I missed it, but I saw everyone going crazy, and then they panned back, and I was like, Oh, I think that's that that girl that everyone's talking about. And I was dead serious, and I was like, Oh, the porn star that you fucking you definitely fucking know. Like, don't

Danger Danger Danger

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lie to me. And I was like, I don't, I'm not it. That's not my cup of tea. She's like, Oh, porn, and I was like, I'm not this is not I'm I'm the good guy here. I did not know who this person was. I did not look it up.

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You know what, you know what my porn is? Oklahoma drills, okay? Between the second and third team at Alabama.

SPEAKER_05 14:18

You think you have time for porn? I gotta learn how to pronounce all these names that South Carolina's landing in the transfer portal. Um that's just not I don't care that sounds. Take that a belly, you're not my type.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

That's right. Yeah, she's missing either. Um, I did hear some rumors at work today from a co-worker of mine that Carson Beck was dating a bell danger, and that's why it got big, and I was like, there's no chance. Like, I feel like people would have known that before this. Um, so while I did some digging, I asked AI, or uh Chris, I was smart. Um, you don't want to go straight to Google for that one. You go you ask AI because you're not gonna get what you're gonna get on Google, and uh turns out she's actually studying law at Miami currently.

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Really?

SPEAKER_04 15:13

She's uh since left her previous work. Um and is she's not doing that anymore? Uh according to AI, she uh she is in law school at Miami trying to be an IP attorney to help uh creators um protect their brand.

SPEAKER_05 15:30

That's awesome. Good for her. Also, let's just clear this out of the way right now. What do you think's going through the mind of the professor on day one when she enters the fucking room?

SPEAKER_04 15:42

Uh, she's been in a setting like this before, but a different outcome, I'm sure. She better not need any extra credit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:50

I think, yeah, probably if I was her, uh, that'd be the first thing I would do just to fuck with them. Be like, just so you know, is there any extra credit involved? And just to watch like a fucking 60-year-old named Bradford be like, uh-uh, um okay. First off, yes, this is dangerous. Is it miss or miss?

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Uh yeah, I

2nd Half Recap

SPEAKER_04 16:15

mean, second half was crazy. Malachi Tony takes over. Um, Carson Beck throws the pick late. And the stat that you listed earlier that everyone was talking about, like, he's only had what a handful of losses, and all of them basically thrown a pick or like turned the ball over on the last play.

SPEAKER_05 16:32

Well, what's funny, it's not funny because I do feel bad for him from a competitor standpoint in this this side of it. Yeah. The loss, the one of the first loss of his career was in 2023 against Bama, and it was in the SC championship game. And in that game, he had um he had the fumble inside of their own 15 that Bama was able to take in for, I think they only got three points out of it, but they put it, they put him up by 10 and basically won the game. 27-17. It was 27-7. That made it 27-17. So it kind of put it out of reach. The other thing, then he played Bama the next year. That was their second loss. That that was when they Bama was up like 30 to 8 or 30 to 7, and they came storming back. And um the end of the game after the Ryan Williams thing, they still drove back down the field and he threw an interception in that game for one of them. It's just like I mean, that it's that part sucks. But I will say this I've I'm sure he had to go through shit that is, I don't know, like like frustrating, or maybe he had to do some soul searching and and like getting injured like that. You have to think too, like, for I'll I'll start by defending his side of it. I'm sure that anybody that wrote an article that to start when this whole when this whole storyline started with Carson Beck probably heard a story they had not thought of yet. Because everyone sits here and thinks, millionaire kid playing a national championship, what an awesome story. And then they probably hear, like, no, everything was pretty shitty. Because you gotta think going into 2024, there's a lot of people that thought he was gonna be the number one overall pick that year and and be a surefire first round. That was his last year, no matter what. And that season for Georgia, coming off the year where they should have won the national title his first year, probably the best team in America. They lose by three to Bama, and then they get left out completely. Then he goes to the next year, and then that's what happens. Like, I mean, like you think the story arc for his career is so different because of such small things that happened. And then what ended up happening towards towards his time at the end of Athens seemed to be all of his own mistakes that he was making. Like a lot of the decisions were his own decisions he made. The the shit with going to Miami after the Cavender twin. I don't know if you kept up with any of that, but him openly going on like dating apps or whatever, and then like while they're in Nashville together, seeking other girls and saying, Oh, we broke up. Not a great move, Carson.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

You mentioned earlier how you know maybe if you were in Mendoza's position, you wouldn't be posting on LinkedIn, maybe you'd be on Snapchat sending lewd comments and photos. Carson Beck literally did that all the time, all the time.

SPEAKER_05 19:17

I mean, he's you basically, and then went to Miami. And so then I we said this on a show a couple years ago, and I thought it was true then. I think it's even truer now. But one of the things that, like, like when you heard Saban talk about NIL, or you heard Kirby talk about NIL, but especially Saban at first, you were never gonna hear somebody there's an echo for some reason. There, you were never gonna hear somebody be in a situation that has that much money that's gonna be received in a way that's like, that's a great point. The millionaire making that point about the things that are wrong, that's like I can get by that's a great point. Like, we have nothing in common financially or maybe even our lives together. Um, but that's such a good point. I never thought about it like that. And and no one's gonna feel bad for millionaires ever, ever, ever, ever. And the fact that Carson Beck was one of the highest paid players in the country. And also, listen, he did what a lot of kids would do if they had that money. He just, you know, like I mean, like, did he have that fucking the Lamborghini wasn't the most egregious thing he bought? The tattoo of the rocket ship that said blast off on the cartoon rocket ship on his right calf. Remember, we did a show about that. That that was more egregious than the fucking Lambo. And then, like, he gets his car broken into, which means somebody knows where he lives, which means there's people like openly and willingly try to do like nefarious shit to him because of who he is. That's probably not a great feeling, but everyone laughed about it. It's like Carson Beck's Lamborghini got broken into. Like, we just never were gonna feel bad for that kid. Now, I say all that to say, get, I mean, give me give me a fucking break a little bit with with all of like the sob story of like, oh my, I'm sure there was somebody on that Miami team that was probably even a contributor that had a better story. I love the Mark Fletcher story where who texts his dad, something I wouldn't do, but um texting his dad saying, like, hey, wish me luck on game day, or like like every every single game, like all that that's awesome. I I love that storyline.

SPEAKER_04 21:24

I think with Beck, it was it was kind of like they just clung to it for some reason, and you're just not gonna fell out of love with football and how like he finally found himself in Miami, and like all game, that's all they talked about.

SPEAKER_05 21:38

Dude, like, and here's the thing, too. If if I I remember being in college and being even more of an emotional wreck than I am now, and and being at that point 18 to 22, and being like, oh man, like I just I mean, like impulsive decisions, dumb decisions, like like lifelong decisions, like prodigal son, sick, brother. All those things are in play, and you're not even like fully developed yet to where you're like, that's probably I'm gonna regret that. You just you're in college. This guy is 24, and and and like most of the decisions he made, there was always a safety net. I mean, like he he could have gone to the draft and was like, never mind, I'm going to Miami, I'm gonna get paid even more money. You guys thought that I was egregiously being paid to start, and now now this whole sob story, it's just I mean, it was you could have mentioned it once, and you could have said, Hey, he really he he got depressed after the injury, and people would have been like that, yeah, that probably sucks because he probably could have been the NFL draft, blah, blah, blah. But instead, you they milked it, and it was like, no one feels bad for this kid.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

No, no, especially uh local Atlanta radio, apparently.

SPEAKER_05 22:45

Oh, yeah, Matt Turnoff was really upset.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

So was uh the morning show. They were just ripping him saying, like, you know, you know, for not shaking hands after the game, and basically either him or his people making up this story about basically how he was treated so poorly in Georgia, and it's just like I think we could probably move on from him finding. What was that part?

SPEAKER_05 23:05

I didn't understand that part, dude.

SPEAKER_04 23:07

He was in a he he was in the same high school recruiting class as like Anthony Richardson, who's been in the NFL for three years. Like, has you though? Has he really?

SPEAKER_05 23:16

Well, well, I mean, I will I will also tell you this if if we are being fair, because now that you say that, I don't think anybody on the staff at Georgia was making him like like making making his life shitty. I don't think any like I know I know for a fact the way that they coached Setson Bennett was not how they coached Carson Beck. And the way they coached Setson Bennett was like, you're not fucking good enough to play here, and you'll never start for us. And he was like, fucking watch. And and that's what motivated him. You have to coach everyone differently. I get all that, but like I hate to call out one of our listeners because I love him to death, and I know that it's just all fun and games on Twitter, but like, I mean, bro, some of some of our own listeners on this show, I would see tweets about the shit they would say about Kavender when she showed up and how she was a curse, and how they were they sucked ever since he got a girlfriend. They everyone wanted to see Gunnar Stockton at times of that year because he was he was bad, and like I think that he probably did as somebody that seems like he's that chronically online, at least sharing pictures of his dick, he probably is on on Twitter a little bit too and seeing some of the comments that were being made, and it wasn't just to him, it was to his girlfriend at the time, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:29

And the only move in that position is just to get on Snapchat and just see what's out there, you know, make yourself feel better because you've lost the love for the game, so why not gain a love somewhere else? Which is you know, show a new job.

SPEAKER_05 24:43

It's crazy that, like, in almost any scenario, if you Google like some scandal or something like salacious like that, it's like, hey, Google, is there one example of this thing? I know it's kind of like a weird random thing, but is there like one example from from this? And it's like, oh, you know what? How about five? We had we had like a Mike's Mike or Jersey Mike's sub, like buy five, get one free thing of just his dick pics and Snapchats on Twitter or not Snapchats that people are posting on Twitter. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

So uh Eddie, bring up the picture of Carson Beck's uh dick, please.

SPEAKER_04 25:21

Yeah, it was uh Eddie. I have a question for you. So, first of all, very, very happy about uh Indiana winning, happy for their fans, obviously. I mean, she's so many cool things going viral on Twitter of you know, the dude. I saw the dude like his mom died this past year, and like she grew up an Indiana fan, and you know, he brought a picture of her and then saw one guy get interviewed. He's been a seasoned season ticket holder, not been alive for 61 years. He's been a seasoned ticket holder for Indiana for 61 years.

SPEAKER_05 25:55

Was he just on the field?

SPEAKER_04 25:56

Like, like I mean, I imagine he has to be the how do you go for 61 years of those Indiana games, dude? At some point, you're like, I just don't think I mean after one season of going 2 and 10, I was like, dude, I don't think I can ever watch Florida State again.

SPEAKER_05 26:09

Yeah, you've been a bitch ever since that happened. It was last year, Tyler. I know you guys were one of the you were the team of the 90s. I know my dad canceled our season tickets for Bama four years into him because he was mad about a missed field goal, which little did he know was only gonna get worse, right? I mean, yeah, that's that's but that's like I love that, man. That that is something. Well, I would say like you wouldn't get in NFL stuff, but I'm sure there's like a Packers thing, but that's just like the difference.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

But I mean, they won a championship like what a couple uh maybe 15 years ago. Yeah, when was that Aaron Rodgers one? Like, so like for most people, and I don't feel bad for a 12-year-old that's like I've never seen my team win. It's like buddy, you're gonna have some pain over the net. Like if you're like a Dan's Uncle Tyler Browns fan, like, buddy, I do actually feel bad for you, even though you're 11. I don't think you're ever gonna see one. But I could have said that to an Indiana fan two years ago. Um who's this in the chat? What's who's in the chat here? Oh, oh, wow. We're gonna start a rivalry on the show. All right.

SPEAKER_05 27:18

Um to do their own podcast.

SPEAKER_04 27:22

Chicks in the office. That was what we'll call it. That's original, right?

SPEAKER_05 27:25

Is that a is that a show? Um, I will tell you, speaking of Barcelona, there was another really crazy stat that I heard brought up, and it was about so I guess Indiana's been playing football for like 127 years. Um, and they had so that means that like for 124, there's been 124 classes that have gone through Indiana. So like look at this little smirk. Rebecca, look at this little smirk my man's got on his face now that you're in the chat. You're not even on the stage. Bring her in, send her a link.

SPEAKER_04 27:56

Um, I believe she's at a Carabas right now, so I don't know if it's gonna be sound quality will be a Carabas Italian grill. Oh, yeah. In Atlanta, it's nine o'clock on a school date. Well, I'm not gonna dox her, you know, but I like this one. This is somewhere somewhere in the southeastern region of the United States.

SPEAKER_05 28:13

Yeah, my bad, my bad on that one for Becca Goodman, probably from Des Moines, Iowa, or something like that, is from what I heard. Um so I think I think uh one of the the stat was basically it was like 124 years where there's been like a four class that was there for four years. I'm I'm wording this so bad.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

She's had some one.

SPEAKER_05 28:34

Let's she's hysterical. No, but she's right, Tyler. She's right. Make Carabas great again. Olive Gardens making a comeback. Um so there's been 124 classes at Indiana that have been there for four years. So, like for their four years, they saw how like four years of Indiana football. 124 examples of this. I believe the number was 74. It was, it was, it was 60%, so it'd maybe right around 74. But 60 percent of those four-year cycles had less wins than Indiana had this season alone. They saw less than 16 wins in four years over 70 times. And this team did it. I mean, it was just it's such an awesome like Signeti became likable. Connor fucking asked him that question about beer. Um that was them, yeah. Um I mean, which I'm I'm happy for Connor. Like, that's like you know, that's that's just a crazy thing that like you would have never thought could happen. And I brought this up, I think, in the last show, but I think it's also a really good point to bring up again moving forward, and it's it's something that like should be fucking put in front of Mike Norvell's face immediately, and and probably Kaylin De Boer, um, and even Lane Kiffin down here, but like the the ability to have an excuse for not winning in this era or needing a couple years to figure it out or just get more resources, all that's gone. Like, like, all of that's gone. This is not a lightning in a bottle. This is you like you took the worst, not not you didn't go to Texas Tech and find a fucking oil billionaire, you didn't go to Oregon and find that geriatric Phil Knight who's like Michael Scott's grandma forgetting to send birthday checks, and so he's just writing out fucking millions of dollars to use for NIL. Like, this is you found the worst program in the country and said, listen, I'm going to turn this into a winner. And not just did you not only did you do that, you got him, you won a national title in two years without a $20 million roster, without like a shit ton of help from from the portal. Like it just I mean it's it's such an awesome story, but it's also like, hey, this is not, I'm not saying it's the new standard or everyone needs to do this, because I think once you have like the the comparison and try to compare yourself to others, it's usually doesn't work out well, especially in college football. But dude, if you're if you are Lane Kiffin and you have just been handed, I said last week it was $30 million, there's no way if they get Jordan Seaton, it's under 40 million for this roster, and all the resources you have in place and the donor base and the in the stadium and the and and the facilities, if you don't win right away, you're fucking like what's what's the excuse?

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Well, there's a couple of things with that too, and I think Eddie's gonna show something here, but like with Indiana, also you got the Heisman trophy from a quarterback who couldn't even beg to be on Miami's roster as a walk-on out of high school. Went to FIU on scholarship, was like, eh, I don't think this is the place for me. Went to Cal and was like, Where's FIU? FIU is in South Florida. Eddie might know the exact book Ratone is Florida Atlantic. I don't know, FIU. Eddie, why don't you get in here, show your face, and tell us where FIU is. Rebecca, where's FIU? Wouldn't you get Rebecca as the producer now? I mean, Boozie can't even find his way into here to tell us where FIU is. He he lives in the damn state. He's getting roasted, didn't want to dox his girlfriend, but he's doxing you. Well, hey, look, first of all, let me mention something real quick.

SPEAKER_00 32:26

It's in Miami. Uh, you got me doing like eight things in the background here.

SPEAKER_05 32:30

Like what?

SPEAKER_00 32:31

I'm trying to figure something out for the first time on a live show.

SPEAKER_05 32:37

It's like, thank you, purple haze. Purple Haze gets it. Still waiting on that.

SPEAKER_04 32:41

Um, yeah, so like by the way, there's 328 people live. Appreciate all of you guys watching and listening. Uh, the the comment section outside of my wonderful girlfriend, it's not very active tonight. No, it's not. I remember it. Is it because is it because it's a Wednesday? Is that is there something going on tonight?

SPEAKER_05 33:04

I think everyone's kind of weirded out by this comment, and I think they all left. Um, what's going on there? I've been watching a lot of Mormon Wives, so I would love to know what the background is on that, Eddie. Eddie is multitasking. Jeff Williams! And purple purple haze has been a really good addition, too. We're getting some people, some stragglers coming in. Thanks, Purple Haze. I I don't know. I I think I I think you're right. The Mendoza thing is that just is that lightning in a bottle? Is that a is I'm not comparing him to the season, but like that that he's he did not have the season Joe Burrow had, but is he like a Joe Burrow type of impact and player for that pro I think he is for that program. I you could argue he's even more impressive.

SPEAKER_04 33:49

I just wonder, like, you got the the Hoover kid from Tennessee or uh TCU coming in next year. Like, is this just gonna be a plug and play type thing? Like, because we don't know yet. Yeah. I mean, the kid that they had the year before was Curtis Rourke, I think, that had transferred in from like Ohio in the Mac, and he was putting up pretty big numbers last year.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

And all and all of the well, now you have to get the next iteration of it all, Tyler. Now you have like go through the shit that is that is frustrating for coaches. All these coaches have been with him since he was at JMU, and and some of them even before that. And so, like, now you have to like when is his first year where he loses a coordinator or two coordinators because they get high-paying jobs, because all that's gonna come. But I mean, I I I would argue, I think, like, dude, what Jeff just said, Burrow, like Burrow, I don't think they go 15-0 without Joe Burrow at all. I will also tell you that whoever the backup was at that that year probably puts up pretty good numbers with fucking Jamar Chase and Jordan Jefferson.

SPEAKER_04 34:54

Look, his receivers that he had, like, they talked about the on the game, like the one kid, Becker, who's been like making these brilliant catches. We were talking about it in uh I was uh texting with Booza and my fraternity brothers. This kid, like every week it seems like they're making these insane catches. Like, yeah, the throws are good, don't get me wrong, but like the catches are unbelievable. Yeah, all these guys are zero-star guys. Like the kid Becker was you know, a kid out of Nashville, so that's why Herb Street knew him, and he was like, I didn't really expect him to turn into this. Uh basically saying, like, yeah, he was ass. Like, yeah, he went to Indiana before Signetti was there. He tried to transfer out, and no one missed him to stay. And like, even the first seven games of this year, he had like 60 total yards or something crazy like that. And then down the stretch, he just became uh a menace for them. On the other side, Surrat was great all year. I don't think he had barely any drops all year. He had like three in the game. It was just a wild thing. Uh, we gotta bring up the one more time, though. What's up?

SPEAKER_05 35:56

Did you see his stat about Chipotle?

SPEAKER_06 35:59

I did not play this first.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

That's so good.

SPEAKER_05 36:25

Oh, yeah. That's so fucking good, dude. Also, I can't believe you said blues traveler, because those two did not look less alike.

SPEAKER_04 36:31

Yeah, I know. It wasn't more the look, it was it more, I was thinking it was harmonica, but it was violin. It was there's a lot going on. Fair, anyways.

SPEAKER_05 36:38

Thanks, Eddie, for doing that among the eight other things you're doing. I know it was just trying to find that one post, but that's your work is diligent and and hard.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

Just like I can't imagine uh someone like having to host a show and doing that all as well. Dude, that's craziness. Six years. Uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:54

So Tyler's trying to make us feel guilty for all the hard work he put in the last years. Like, we don't recognize it. We recognize it now, Tyler. Yeah, we'll watch it. Yeah, I'm I appreciate how hard you are. How hard you work. I appreciate how hard you work, dude. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Thank you. Um before we move on, do you think this is this type of-hold on hold on? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:18

Does Rebecca know about this guy on Instagram yet? No, I was hoping she wouldn't see it. Are you fist fucking kidding me right now? You haven't shared this with her? I have not. I don't even follow her. I can't share it with her. That's even weirder. You don't follow him?

SPEAKER_04 37:36

Dude, you guys, I mean, I you send every post that he has, so I just check him out there. Also fair.

SPEAKER_05 37:43

Um the Chipotle thing, real quick. He ordered Chipotle every day this year. Every day.

SPEAKER_06 37:50

Who did?

SPEAKER_05 37:54

Go on. We all need a Rebecca in our lives. Um Rebecca, if I give you $5, you tell me you're proud of me. Um no, I I it was uh it was oh shit. He Signetti or every day he ordered a burrito bowl. From he's had 500 burrito bowls the past two years. He he he he has like 50,000 purple haze, you might know this better than I do if you could find it. But I think I think he racked up like 50,000 Chipotle points.

SPEAKER_04 38:27

I love that. Um did you uh I saw something on Twitter that was like I don't know if it was real or not. That's part of the problem with Twitter sometimes, but it was like apparently Signetti doesn't call beers by their names. Yeah, I can't be real, references them by their ABV, the fourth point. But also it makes a lot of sense for him, so I just didn't know if that was true. But just results before we

Will We See Anything like IU Again?

SPEAKER_04 39:00

move on. Will we see another Indiana type program be able to do something like this? Which is because I think people get confused. Like my coworker, I was talking about this whole thing with today. He was like, I hate Indiana because they just bought a national championship. I'm like, I don't think you know what happened. Yeah, this is not like now that could be them going forward because Mark Cuban's involved now. But like, if anything, Miami is the one that basically would have bought a championship because they have a billionaire that just funds their program. We'll talk about it here in a minute. But I mean, Darien Mensa from Duke, they're gonna have to buy him out of a contract, and then they're gonna pay him. He'll be the highest paid player in the NCAA. Um, like that is the team that's doing that, but like Indiana, the vast majority. I think the stat was they have seven four stars. No five stars, eight, eight four stars. The rest, three stars are below. They all Most of them transferred from James Madison or a lower tier program. You had a Kent State in there, the worst FBS program in the country. Um, you know, they're Cal, which I think there were rumors actually that Georgia really wanted Mendoza out of the portal, which is interesting to me. Um, but like he wasn't that like he was okay last year. I mean, the kid that they have this year was better than he was last year at Cal. Um, so you took this team that was basically a bunch of nobodies and turned them into a dominant force and went 16-0, first team since like the 1800s, to do that, just because of the amount of games we play mostly, but um, and like you know, I I know that they're not as talented as any of the top teams we talk about, you know, whether it's the Miami team, the LSU team, Bama team, Fort State team, these teams that like were dominant, those all had more talent. But as far as like the way they beat people's ass, the run they went on down the stretch, I mean, beating the even in season though, you know, going on the road to Oregon, winning by 10, beating them, beating the shit out of them by 30 points in the playoffs. Illinois. That was a top 10 team in Illinois. They beat them 63 to 10. Beat beat Ohio State, the defending champ who hadn't lost and looked pretty invincible all year, beat them in the national champ or in the Big Ten championship. Um basically, I mean, no offense, but I have to say it for the emphasis, like Bama had no shot against them. Ever. Ever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:35

I'm telling you, Tyler, I haven't I haven't felt that helpless in a Bama game. Because every time they played that's it's like what I think there is gonna happen against Georgia, Indiana did that. And and I don't I don't know if there's been a time that I've been more like actually measured with what I knew was gonna happen in like in a negative way for Bama ever. Because it was like even when I was growing up, it'd be like, Oh, well, they get they they have a chance, it's Bama. Like, they'll maybe you know, against all odds, they can figure something out. This was like I mean, it was over from jump, man. They were they were and then they did the same thing to Oregon literally from jump against Oregon. They had a pick six on the first play.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

Yeah, now this game they they did, like it was a great game. Miami's D-line was incredible. Um, now they got away with a lot in that game. Both teams did, yeah, but like very physical in the secondary. Well, I mean, the shot on Mendoza was insane. What was that? Like, okay, I I guess you could say because they're saying, like, Hershry seemed to be like really wanting them to be like, that was a fair play, but like they were trying to say, well, like he was carrying out the fake handoff, so you can hit him, which okay, that's fine. But the dude, like, the I don't even like the targeting rule, but like the epitome of what it is like, dude, just straight with the crown of his helmet right into the dude's neck, and just like they just let it play out, and it was like it was late, too. Like, I I would have called it even though he was carrying out the fake, like it was nuts.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

Bleeding on like the first drive of the game, he's bleeding from his mouth, and and and like again, why it's so awesome to watch this kid specifically play. He's like just smiling, just fucking squint, smiling as as much as possible. Like, I mean, it was I I don't care how this sounds. I'm not saying that it's better. They were they did not have a better season than 2019 LSU. The idea that everyone just thinks that 2019 LSU would have boat raced this team is so fucking stupid because I watched that team closely just like you did, and they also did not have a defense anywhere close to the caliber of what Miami, or I'm sorry, what what L well or Miami, but also what Indiana had. I just I thought it was awesome. And I I hope you're right. Like, I hope there is, I hope there are more versions of this. Like, I hope Bama sprinkles in a natty every once in a while, still, obviously. But like, I think this is I think more than anything, man, this was really good for the sport. I don't care about the Big Ten part of it versus SEC for once. Like, I I I think this was just really good for the sport. And in the couple of years where it seems like all this terrible fucking same old, same old, and then worsening of the sport happened. We got this, and it was it was great.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

Yep. So um, great way to end the season. Um there's some stuff that's

Portal Talk

SPEAKER_04 44:15

happening in the portal that we'll talk about here. Uh, I saw today Princely, not gonna try to say the name correctly, you from Ole Miss. Um cool. Umlam Liaon. Yep.

SPEAKER_06 44:33

Any breakup thing again?

SPEAKER_04 44:35

Because you're uh you're an LSU guy now, if we could say that. Um what is the story on this?

SPEAKER_05 44:44

Oh, this is a done deal for a minute.

SPEAKER_04 44:46

Um didn't he resign a NIL deal like to come back to Ole Mess?

SPEAKER_05 44:51

So there are some players that if you the the Damon Williams thing, if you the the contract he signed, if he would have gotten out of his contract and went to LSU, which is what LSU would basically kiffin from what I gathered. I don't know this part to be true, but from what I gathered was saying, like, yeah, yeah, if you come, we'll figure it out, we'll pay it, like you know, we'll match it or whatever. But what was gonna end up happening from the NCAA standpoint, and if the Big Ten was gonna stick up for him on this, was they were gonna basically say, No, you cannot, if you sign him, you have to pay that amount like to Washington for the for his contract, not a buyout, but like the whole amount, and then that same number would be deducted from your rev share, which is basically what's four uh a 16 uh 75, no, 80. You would you would have a 20% decrease in your rev share the next year because it would take four million out of the 20.5 you're given with the rev share. So like that's a horrible deal.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

The way Prince Will's is and is he brothers with Prince Lee? Yeah, I thought I thought that is it Prince Lee. I think Prince Lee's the one in the in the prose? Prince Will. I think Prince Will's in the either way, both questionable names, I would say. I they have to be brothers. Are they princes though? Because like if they're not, it's kind of like uh stolen valor in a way.

SPEAKER_05 46:07

I this one's a king, brother. This one's a king right now.

SPEAKER_04 46:10

Because if you brought in break it down, is his name Lee? And he's like Prince Lee, and is his name Will, and it's Prince Will. I'm not even gonna get into that part because I feel like I'll say something like it, like I shouldn't, even as a joke.

SPEAKER_05 46:20

I don't even know. It might be like it might be a really I don't maybe it's like a really honorable name. I don't know. It's just I just know that there I thought Prince Lee was the same person, and I found out like two days ago it wasn't. Anyway, Prince Will, his total, yeah, he was gonna say he's on the Panthers, his total um was gonna be around 2 million, I was told, but they were gonna have to pay Ole Miss between five and six hundred thousand. I had not heard six hundred except for on Twitter, so I would say it's probably around five. And I think the way they were gonna do that was basically say that's coming out of your payment. So we'll pay you two million, but five hundred thousand is coming out going to your buyout, so it's like one point five. Um, I also saw somewhere from a decently reliable source that it would be it was 1.5 and then after be one, which I don't believe because he's the number three overall player in the portal and he would command a two million dollar payday. So from the market, I don't think that's what he would be. But either way, um he well, he's they're brothers. If there's a third one, I wonder what that one's name is. Um this is like a much cooler version of like the van's dance from Leonard Skinner, like Ronnie and Lonnie and Donnie or whatever it is. Um probably the same thing, though. But no, I so they basically they got him. He was going to be a guy that that he left for Al Miss and he was gonna end up in the full with LSU. The deal was signed, or at least agreed upon last week, but then he had to enter, then they they have the 48 hours to process it, or whatever it was, because of course, even like the rules of when the portal closes aren't real, and they had to process it. It got done with like I think Tuesday was the final day. So he entered the portal. Kevin tweeted out at 3 a.m. the tiger symbol or the tiger emoji, and that's how they that's how they made the like the first part of the announcement that he signed today.

SPEAKER_04 48:07

Um so you got that going on. Doesn't seem like that's gonna be crazy. Good news for Ole Miss. It seems like maybe there's some hope that Trinidad Chamblers will be coming back next year for them.

SPEAKER_05 48:18

There's zero chance he doesn't play next year, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:21

Because the rules, there's no rules. So is Pavio gonna somehow come back again? Carson back, he's gonna be back again, I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

Well, like, you know that part of the stuff with Chambliss is it's not Pavia. Like the thing with Chambliss is like Jameis.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Jameis is left as a sophomore.

SPEAKER_05 48:43

Well, I thought that's a there's a five-year window in your eligibility. So he that would but like, but like, yes, that is the the thing with the trend is different than Diego because Diego's thing was specifically for JUCO. That's the same as Joey Aguilar. So now Joey Aguilar should he should be at the front of the list of of like this whole thing. So um, so they yes, that emoji. Um so Joey Aguilar should he shouldn't have an issue there, but the thing with Diego was that basically they were saying all the JUCO stuff, the NCAA just never considered that as like a part of the NCAA. So none of the rules should apply, and that's how he got the extra year. And they were like, no, that's stupid. You've been in college for six years, blah, blah, blah. And then it turned into them being like, no, we're gonna sue you. And so the NCAA folded. This thing with Trader Dad, from what I gather, is that he basically kind of like fibbed about having like mono and tonsillitis and something else at his at his um what do you call it at Ferris State? But he's used up all of his eligibility, he's played football for four years. This would be his sixth year, but the the thing that trying to go off of is well, he he signed a contract, and so you have to honor the contract, and the contract says he would make six million dollars. So this is like you would be then causing irreparable harm if you don't give him that money. Because, like, for instance, if he doesn't go in the first round and he drops the second round, like Tyler Shuck did for the Saints, the draft slot or the the slotted value of that draft pick drops from if he's drafted 16 to 21, that is a minimum 20 million dollars. And if he drops to 40, where Shuck was drafted last year, I think that deal is worth like a little over four and a half for four years. So this is life-changing money. Basically, they're saying he didn't get a first-round grade, blah, blah, blah. But like they've they've made this appeal four times, Tyler. The incident play has said four times, no, these are the rules. You cannot just fucking do whatever you want to do. But now Tom Mars is gonna sue them. And they there they have to the restraining order, just like the Bama thing we'll talk about in a second, is done when you file a restraining order. It has to be done in the county court, I guess, of the the person bringing the restraining order. So it's in Oxford. The fucking judge, I think, is like an ox, an old misgarat or something. It's like there, there's no way the incident way is gonna like I I don't think I don't think they have the ability to say no anymore. I don't think anyone cares what they say, and they just everyone's just doing whatever the fuck they want to do.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

Yeah, I mean, I think my my thoughts are my negative thoughts, at least are are well known here at this point of the off the field. So okay, so let's talk about this real fast. Um we kind of were like joking around about like bringing old players back who are in the pros now because they had eligibility. I saw this story, and at first I was just like, what I looked at the picture because on three's great at doing like the big block white lettering that says like fake, and then it's like a picture of somebody in a jail jail, it's a picture of a guy in a Spurs jersey says eligible with uh Bama logo. I was like, okay. I kind of ignored it, and then I was like, let me go back and just like later in the day I looked at the the article. This is insane. This is insane. This is insane. Tell him, Tyler. So you got this guy from Bama. He was he on that really good team two years ago.

SPEAKER_05 52:19

Is that Charles Beniaco was the starting center of the 2023 team that was the number one overall seed and lost in the Sweet 16 to San Diego State?

SPEAKER_04 52:29

Correct. He went to the draft after that season.

SPEAKER_05 52:33

Shouldn't have it was very shocking that he did it.

SPEAKER_04 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:37

But he did.

SPEAKER_04 52:38

Uh I would say that maybe if NIL were the same today as it was in 2023, because it's changed that fast, he probably would have stayed. Um, but he went to the draft, he did not get drafted, so he did what a lot of folks do uh when they don't get drafted. They either go overseas and try to get a professional job over there in basketball, or uh they try to get into the G League, which is basically what, like the minor league system, somewhat of the NBA. Um, so he's been on the San Antonio Spurs G League team uh since 2023. And now uh that's wrong, Tyler.

SPEAKER_05 53:17

That's wrong. He's been traded. Like he he is he has signed three professional contracts and has been traded. Right, okay, yeah. He's currently in the Pistons uh organization.

SPEAKER_04 53:29

Yeah, so he got traded to the Nuggets and now is in the Pistons, the Motor City Cruise, at which you and I we've been following the cruise for a while now. They've they've had an up and down season.

SPEAKER_05 53:40

Oh, I I I know you're joking, Tyler, but I actually I have kept up with him as of today because he played for him. And I know you're thinking, well, it couldn't have been anytime recent. No, no. It was on Saturday. He played he played for them in a game on Saturday. Uh on January 17th, four fucking days ago, he played in a professional basketball game.

SPEAKER_04 54:02

Well, Chris, uh on in six days from now, on January 27th against Tennessee, he's gonna be suiting up for the Crimson Tide.

SPEAKER_05 54:12

Wrong. That's in three days, but that's when his hearing is. I wrote a whole article on this. I sent it to both of you. Um but like yeah, he he can play this week. And and listen, you think Nate Oates is not gonna play him? You think Nate Oates is above I'm not I'm not gonna un I'm not gonna unpack this can of worms because I I understand what he did a couple years ago with with the 2023 team and all that happened. And yeah, sitting a player that had did not was not directly involved with something, I don't I'm not, I'm not gonna get un open all this, but like it sitting a player that would that would basically fuck it, I'm not even gonna bring it up, but there's no part of me that thinks he's not gonna play him on Saturday if he's available to play. But how the fuck is this happening? Like like it happened at Baylor for a guy that was drafted number 31 overall. So that's the precedent they're going off of. But but what I don't understand, Tyler.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

Shamar Stewart almost went back to Texas AM after getting drafted in the top 15 with the Bangladesh. Right.

SPEAKER_05 55:12

I I don't I I don't understand. What I don't understand is like like this is if you for years and years and years, decades upon decades, it was all right. Well, if you want to go pro, you can go pro. Here's the beauty of NIL now. It's the best part of it. Like, it's one of the few shining, bright, shining parts of NIL that everyone could probably agree on. Hey, this is good. If you're a player like Jalen Milro, or you're a player like Darien Mensah, who's not got a ton of pro prospects, but it's getting offered.

SPEAKER_04 55:46

Yes. Yeah, he was uh it was perfect for him.

SPEAKER_05 55:49

Like, if you're not good enough to go pro, but you have another year of eligibility, someone will overpay for you. Ty Simpson getting six and a half million dollars as an offer from Miami, Ole Miss, Tennessee, that's a really good deal for him if he's not a first-round grade uh quarterback. But he ended up being, that's why he left. But Jalen Milrow was offered four million dollars from someone last year and and decided to go pro instead. I think that's a bad investment because he could have made more money from from that one year than he would have made in the NFL. The other thing is like like for if if you if you're now allowed to do that, like you're you're allowed to better your life, make more money, make more money for yourself, support your family, whatever the fuck you're gonna do with it by not having to go pro early. That's that was a problem with the the early jump to the NFL if I settling juniors for years and years. But if you get I know he didn't get drafted, but if you're if you're going to play professional basketball and you've you've you've said, I'm leaving, I'm gonna go play pro. And here's the thing too, Tyler, in basketball, it's endless opportunities for good college basketball players. It doesn't mean you're gonna go to the NBA, that's really tough. But there's G League, there's overseas, like Aaron Clark, who I think you've met before, one of my good buddies, like from Georgia College State University, he played two years in fucking Turkey. Like he was an all-conference peach belt player, he made like 60 grand a year playing overseas in Turkey. Like, that's there's opportunities everywhere, and now it's not working out for you in the G League, so you're coming back to play in college in the in the middle of the fucking season.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Insane. It's insane. I I don't where does it end? I I just I don't I don't know, you know. So then you get this Mensa thing too. So he had a two-year contract with Duke that gave him four million dollars a year. Last year was his first year. He had a great year. I like a lot of people. I know Duke won the ACC, but it's kind of a joke, whatever that because they had like five losses, but he had a great season, 34 touchdowns, six picks, you know, 76% adjusted completion percentage. I mean what? Hey, really? Yeah, he was incredible. What the fuck? And good call, Duke. Yeah. And now he was supposed to come back for year two at Duke. Um Miami comes in like basically the day before they're about to play in the championship game, and they're like, I think he was I don't know if this is true, so I'll say allegedly, but like allegedly he was at the game in like a Miami box watching the game. Sure. Um and you know, it's it's like what we do with the portal now. It's like there's no tampering. Darien Mensa said to hit the portal. It's thought that he might go to Miami. Well, how is it thought that? Is that just a guess by everybody? So you've got this whole thing going, he's got a signed contract with Duke for next year for four million dollars. It was signed last year. And we're just gonna say, meh, contracts aren't real, law's not real in this sport. We don't do any of this. So now Duke's suing over the situation. We'll see how it turns out. I don't know. My guess is he ends up going to Miami somehow.

SPEAKER_05 59:04

Yeah, well, because now Miami gets to play the position of the Yankees, which is like, fuck, we don't have a starting pitcher for right. Like we don't have a uh uh okay, go get Julian Sand. Have to have to go get somebody. Like, like, and so I think what's frustrating too about this, Tyler, is that like one of the things that made the Duke thing so unique last year, because I remember hearing rumbles around Lenores sellers, and it was like when Lenores was coming back to South Carolina, I think they got him for 2.7 million, and and some people thought that was way too high. And I was like, Well, he was offered 2.5 from Auburn, and there was somebody, his dad said somebody offered four. And I remember finding out later because like a week or so, there was there was numbers that were being thrown. Jalen Miller got offered four by somebody, so and so got offered four by somebody, and then Darien Minsa goes to Duke, and his number was four million dollars each year for two years. So one of the Things that was supposed to be better about this was like, Hey, we don't want free agency every year. So Duke does this thing that's like ahead of the curve, which is we we thought it was bad when they were doing all these announcements of like, hey, I'm coming back, like coming back for next year, like staying home, like all that shit. We thought that's so corny and lame and different than what we're used to. But like signing a two-year contract is so far ahead of the curb, it's so far out of the box, and it's really smart thinking because now you're avoiding this, and now you don't have to do it again next year. But since nothing is real, Miami can come in and just say, We'll pay you 10 million. You know what? Fuck it, we'll pay you eight, and we'll just pay them that amount, and we'll figure it out later because a house and just whatever you need. Whatever because I'm sure there's like that part is like the most minimal part of it. But like everyone has a dealership somewhere in their back pocket that from an alumni. Everyone probably has a realtor in their back pocket from an alumni. But like in this scenario, you thought what you were doing was the right thing by saying, Hey, we're signing you for two years, eight million. It was good enough for you last year, and so now it's like I just get so frustrated with it because it's it's like I think the the uh the some of the stuff that I've heard, the initial pushback is like, well, I don't give a fuck because like the Instant Relay was able to do this for for decades upon decades, and they took advantage of these things, and that's not even wrong, like they definitely took advantage of this forever until someone finally drew a line in the sand and put their foot down and was like, We're not fucking doing this anymore. Like, this is what we're doing now, and now you've seen all the changes. And I am never gonna side with the NCAA, but this part of it, you've gone so far overboard so quickly, something has to be fixed and that needs to go back towards the middle. Like, we have overcorrected the shift so far right, then so far left, we just need to go back to the middle, and that's not a metaphor for anything, Eddie. I'm just talking about college football, I swear, not politics at all. But like, it's it's it's so frustrating because we're basically operating in the situation now where it's like, hey, you you can't do that. It's like, why you did it forever? And it's like, that's not where we should start the counterpoint. Like, the counterpoint should be what's a logical solution, and no one gives a fuck because there's no there's did you see the NCAA tweet? The NCAA PR, the actual Twitter account, tweeted that they need the governed government's assistance on it. And it's like you're the ruling body.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:33

I gotta say, the PR team seems like they don't do a great job for the NCAA.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:40

Yeah. Yeah, understatement of the century. Really good there. What do you do for a living?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

For who? I've heard nothing but bad things about oh, how's that going? That's like your job, didn't it? Uh, we'll see where it goes. Um, sad the season's over, but as we know now, the offseason is basically just as popular as the season, there's gonna be crazy stuff that happens, so we will still be recording in the offseason. Yeah. Um we now that we got babuzo. All of our hard work, we are going to get this thing rolling again, and we're gonna start, Chris, uh reminding the fans. And there's 440 people watching live. So, all of you, if all of you went right now into iTunes or Apple Podcasts, yeah, you hit five stars on our podcast, we would have just as many five-star likes as I want to say, like Andy Staple show. I was looking at it today, like we have 60, we have 60 reviews, five-star likes. Most podcasts, how many total? Yeah, yeah. For us, are any are there any one stars? No, our average is like 4.9. There may be, but like if you go look at all the big ones, ever no one's that high. Yeah, that's because they have more. Anyways, doesn't matter. We have more than that. Sug it. Um, so if all of you guys went right now, maybe gave a review, five stars. Angry fans line is shut down right now because we didn't use it. Bad job by me. So we'll figure that out for next year.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

Um, thanks to Eddie for posting that on there. Um, what a firecracker this one is, man. Come on now. We need her on the show next week.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

Hey, she's my ride or die. You know, Booza met her this weekend.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

Yeah, I was telling Booza, like I wanted I I would have gone, but I wasn't um invited, so I didn't get to go.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:41

That's fair. Yeah, you missed Booza do a little uh karaoke. What'd he sing? Booze, do you want to you wanna jump in here?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:49

Fucking do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:49

I I think it's a little rude that you haven't said hi to Rebecca.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

Yeah, what's the vet? Where's your wife? Fourth wall, you know. You gotta keep the fourth wall up. She crosses uh it was uh Joe Diffie, uh pickup man.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:02

Something women like about a pickup man. I've got a car do you drive?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:09

I drive a Chevrolet Silverado 1500 pickup. Fuck yeah, dog. That's so odd. Alright.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:15

You think it'd be anything else? You know who else drives that car? And I'm not kidding. Put him up. That truck.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:23

Put him up, Biz. Let's see it. Kurt, it's our boy Kurt.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:28

He had a video about this the other day, about why he got a lift on the truck.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:32

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:33

Why are you taking it down? Um, no, did you sing Tyler? Because I feel like you you don't my big sing guy. But you're really good at the guitar.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with karaoke, which is one of those things, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:46

What if you went up there to do karaoke, but you're like, I'm just gonna play the guitar? Um is this?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:52

Miss Bex got up on stage and did a little tune. What'd she sing? It wasn't she wasn't solo act like Booza, you know. I got I can't give her too much credit. She was up there with other girls singing the game. Yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:09

You know, but um, what would be your what would be your song, Tyler? We'll close that. What what would be your karaoke song?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:18

Uh, you ever heard of a uh I don't know if it's a rap group or a band called A2M? No. It definitely wouldn't be that song, but it's insane if you've never heard it. Um ass to mouth? Well, I think that's probably what it stands for. I was gonna say it.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:34

I'm so glad that's what it was because if it wasn't, and that was my guess, man, all that Abella Danger talk was out the fucking window from earlier. I lost a lot of good points on that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

I I think that I'm so uh What who is this girl?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:50

You did remember what she sang, you just didn't want to say it. A bunch of fucking perverts in here.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:56

Uh I don't have a go-to song because I know that I'm not likely to get up on stage and sing. I could see that. Or it's just gonna have to hit me in the moment. That's kind of what be my vibe. What about you? Do you have a go-to?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:08

Uh one of two, it would be Louis Armstrong, What a Wonderful World, because I fucking nail that. Um that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

Scott Zabrew.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:20

Pretty much spot on. Yep. And then the other one, which is like what's that?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:26

I like your mency better, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:30

Yo, I'm out of here right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:32

Are you ready? Um, the other one is share if I could turn back time, which I fucking kill, but there's not a lot of places in Atlanta that let you sing male or males sing female songs. At least that's not yeah. Remember the what's the one that was in the Virginia Highlands that was so cool? Metal Some karaoke, that place, Tenhai? Yeah, yeah. They would never let me sing it. They're like, you know, men can't sing women's side. Yeah, live band karaoke. But they also had like the music nights where it was just they're like, no, no, no, that's the trick rule. You men can't sing women's songs. I'm like, that's seems pretty opposite what most of you fucking weirdos in here think about politics, Eddie. Um, so but that is my song. I mean, it's like my I mean, my throat's not really there right now, but I mean I could turn back time.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:22

God, pretty good.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:24

Oh, yeah, it was fantastic. Um I could find a way. But yeah, it was a it was a lovely weekend. Got to introduce the lady to a few close friends from school, meet some new friends. We got a oh, we got a cameo for our birthday boy from Roll Tide Willie. Oh, god, he's not he's a Fort Safe fan, it was just he thinks Roll Tide Willie's funny. So uh our Bama fan in the group got him the the cameo. How much did it cost? Like seven dollars and a pack of fucking peanuts. I can't remember, but we did have to pay for I think it was a last minute decision, so we had to pay extra for the express. And it was uh express was like one business day turnaround. Yeah, I gotta tell you, Roll Tide Willie really pushed it to the limit. Um, we thought we were he was gonna let us down, but he came through.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:11

It's actually even more money for both of his eyes to be looking at the camera. So that's I mean, usually one of them's always a part of it, but the other one you sometimes he just drifts away.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:23

Um, so five-star reviews. Yes, we will be doing off-season content, schedule to be determined, but we will be doing it, and then next year we're gonna be diving in with a lot more stuff, more maybe more segments, maybe more directed conversation. Potentially. I I can't really promise that part of it. Structure. There will be segments, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:46

Well, I think we're gonna do some interviews in the offseason, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:49

Yeah, I think we gotta get back to having guests. I mean, we've had some powerhouse guests, multi-time guest Josh Pate, who's now like a college football hall of fame person at this point. Wild Kirk Herbstreet, which this is pre-2023, so I apologize to all my four save fans for talking to him. Uh, we've had uh Danny Canal on for an hour. I interviewed Brian Dawkins by myself for an hour. That was wild. That was wild. Uh, who else have we had on here? We've had a ton of guests from smaller outlets that are like more team focused. Yeah. Um, it's been awesome, man. So we gotta we gotta we gotta go back to that. Um, and we will this coming season. This is I think Chat GPT said that who did this, like on three or something, did like this gonna be the next 50 winners of the championships. It was gross. There's more states winning one in 2033. So we're on the climb, as Mike Novell likes to say. We gotta respond, baby. And uh until then, we'll see you guys soon. What do you think? Okay, all right.