#123 - Tim Doyle - I Flew To Miami For A Podcast, But That Wasn't The Hard Part

Two years ago, this podcast was just an idea in my head—a microphone, a computer, and my brother's bedroom. Last month, that same idea took me to Miami for my first podcast trip. In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of that experience and share what it taught me about confidence, momentum, and building something one step at a time. More than anything, this is a reminder that the hardest part isn't reaching a milestone; it’s having the courage to start.

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Two years ago, this podcast was just an idea in my head—a microphone, a computer, and my brother's bedroom. Last month, that same idea took me to Miami for my first podcast trip. In this episode, I take you behind the scenes of that experience and share what it taught me about confidence, momentum, and building something one step at a time. More than anything, this is a reminder that the hardest part isn't reaching a milestone; it’s having the courage to start.

There've been a lot of landmark moments that come with creating a podcast. Obviously, your first ever episode, then my first interview, my first ever in person interview that I did in Austin, Texas, my 100th episode, and the most recent landmark, which happened last month, my first ever in person interview that I traveled for. I traveled to Miami, Florida to interview Mark Sisson.

And I remember when I got the email, Mark Sisson emailed me Memorial Day weekend and I was out for a walk and it was just a one liner of, Let me know what your dates look like the second week of June. And I remember I opened it up on my walk and just started like jumping up and down and crazy. And there was like a car that was driving by me.

when this was happening and like we made eye contact for a little and I could definitely tell like the person in the car was probably just saying, like, what is going on with this kid? Like what this kid is crazy. But I remember I was just so excited because Mark Sisson is a guy that I want to interview for a while. And the funny thing was it's a really cool experience too. I remember when I first started the podcast two years ago.

Little over two years ago, my sister-in-law had texted me saying, Hey, I just listened to this interview of this guy, Mark Sisson, this guy who started Primal Kitchen. I think it could be a cool guy that you would really relate to and find interest in and would be a great person for you to ha have on the podcast and for you to interview them. And lo and behold, two years later

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Was confirming with Mark Sisson for a time to interview him. So it was a very special kind of full circle moment with that. And I knew that I wanted to do this interview in person. This was the for for me, there's just certain guests that you will travel for or that you want to meet in person because it'll create.

such a better experience and can lead to just an overall better product and better conversation and other opportunities leading to that. And I want to and I'm saying that specifically because that's a point that I'll come back to later on about other opportunities unfolding from in person interviews. And so when I emailed him back I said, like, hey Mark, you know

Great to get connected with you. Here's some dates that'll work in the second week of June. you know, more than happy to do this virtually, but would really love to do it in person with you in Miami if that can work. And he emailed me back saying, Definitely prefer to do in person. And it just got me so psyched. And from his standpoint, like he could have thought that I was just based in Miami or whatever. So, you know, it was nothing new different from hit for him.

You know, when I email people in Austin, Texas, I just tell them, like, hey, I live in Austin as well. Like, let's do this in person. but it was so exciting to one for a few things, but just one, being able to get Mark Sisson, two, like I said, creating this landmark moment of okay, now I'm traveling for this podcast. And three, just the overall

sensation and feeling of I was getting of like, dude, like look at what is being built here. And what honestly really helped me was like the week leading up to going to Miami for this interview, I was like ridiculously busy now. And I feel like it just like helped me stay grounded in a way or like not like overly think about the entire entire experience of it. I mean I recorded an in-person

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podcast in Austin, Texas, eight days before I went to Miami. Then I actually I flew to Boston that weekend for my five year college reunion. Then I flew back to Austin. I did a last minute virtual recording with Kamal Ravakan at the time on that Tuesday. And then I flew Wednesday to Miami, Florida to then do the interview with Mark Sisson on Thursday.

So so many different moving parts, and I feel like it really, really just helped me not become fixated on the one interview with Mark Sisson. And another important point that I'll say on that and why I'm sharing that is that managing those eight days with all these different podcasts and coordinating everything.

so much easier than it was for putting out that first ever podcast episode. Or just taking this idea for wanting to start a podcast and getting it outside of me, getting it out of my body and putting it into the real world.

Starting is by far the hardest thing you will ever do when it comes to some type of project, I believe. It's so hard to get out of that dead weight position and get into a little bit of a rhythm and a little bit of movement. And some of that I always like to say is that it's so much easier to get better than it is to start, but it is impossible to get better if you don't start.

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So now getting back to this Miami experience. So I flew to Miami the morning of June tenth.

I had the pop.

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I had the podcast the afternoon of June eleventh and then I flew back the night of June eleventh. So very, very quick. And it was cool. Like I could say to myself, I'm like, this is a business trip. Like this is work travel. Like I'm here for just work. And I'm obviously saying that kind of jokingly, but that's also the truth of it. I wasn't going to Miami for a vacation. I was going there for a work project. That being said though, I'd never been to Miami f before.

And it was cool that I could experience a new place. Or it's it's cool that podcasting could unlock this new experience and this new location for me. And something that I learned from this as well is just the impact of traveling alone can be so beneficial. Just going to a new place by yourself, figuring stuff out, you know, you get opened up to new parts of yourself. New

you know, environments, new energies, you know, just getting out of your regular schedule and routine on a daily and weekly basis and doing something like this. It just it's very refreshing. And I feel like throughout the entire experience, honestly, like from the moment I woke up

Through to like me going into the podcast studio, I was almost like in a state of awe. And like I would like, like out loud, just like be telling myself throughout the entire experience of just like, what the heck, dude? Like that's literally what I would say. It like this. I would literally be like be laughing and chuckling and just like, what the heck, dude? Like, because it was just like this is so crazy.

It's just like I'm flying to Miami to interview this guy, Mark Sisson. Just like, what the heck, dude? That being said though.

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Still being grounded and coming to the fact of Hey, this is expected. Like you've put in the work. This is the next step. Like don't be surprised that opportunities like this are arising.

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And also with that being said, my mindset was also like, hey, this is just the next episode. Yeah, it's a really cool special experience for you, but this is just the next episode. I was more nervous and uneasy about just the logistics of the entire thing rather than the actual podcast and going about my routine because

There always was like just like a little bit of nervousness of like in the back of my head of like, man, like I hope I hope something doesn't come up. I hope he doesn't have to like cancel last minute or anything because, you know, I've had people cancel or they have to reschedule or something just doesn't work out. And, you know, if it's virtually or if it's in Austin, it's just like, okay, like yeah, like no worries, no problem. You know, honestly, no like skin off my back. But with this one, I was like, all right, like this would be a tough one if it doesn't

you know, go the way that I would want it to. But literally everything went so smoothly. Everything went as planned. And I'm not surprised by that because I remember thinking back to my first in-person interview that I did here in Austin, Texas, my first ever in-person interview. And I remember coming away w with the feeling of just like, man, that went

So much better than I could have ever expected. And I had that in the back of my mind with this as well. You know, flying to Miami, the logistics of everything. Just like in the back of my head, I'm like, you what? Like I think we're gonna stick with that trend of man, that went better than I could have ever expected.

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And now when it comes to the podcast.

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And so and so when I got to the studio when everything was all ready to go and I see Mark Sisson walk through the door, all those feelings just completely subside of like, okay, great. The logistics of everything, the coordination of everything, it all went well. And now it's just about getting back to the routine and the system of what I've done week in and week out for the past two years now of having conversations with people and going about that process.

And the funny thing about the podcast is like, and I feel like this is why it's felt so aligned and why it fires me up so much, is that it's just felt so natural since day one. Going back to that very first episode, but even more so that first interview that I ever did. I remember walking away from that first interview, just like, man, that felt really, really natural. Like I had never felt like a sense of imposter syndrome.

Or like me trying to do something or be someone that I'm not. It's just felt so natural to who I am. And all that being said, you know, like yes, it's come up like from time to time with the the nervousness of everything, of having good conversations, doing a good job, giving guests a good experience. But what I love about podcasting is that all those thoughts.

They all just dissipate. They all fade away once you get into the seat and once you have the conversation. Something that I've learned and something that I've said is that the hardest part of a podcast is asking that first question. Because you're in between those two worlds. You're in the material world.

Of like, okay, great, like we're both here. We both coordinated this, like let's sit down to have a conversation. And then once you ask that first question and you allow a guest the space to answer that and expand upon it, you enter into this new portal and like I said, this new world of having this conversation and everything else just blocks out.

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And that's a huge part of why I love podcasting so much. And what ha what helps and what allows me to do this even more, and it's something that I've learned about my process when it comes to podcasting, I always try to schedule podcasts on days where I know that I'm working out that morning. Because

Whether it's just like the endorphins or whatever it is within my mind and my body, it just gets me into such a flow state with these conversations even more. And I feel like I'm even i you know, just able to have that much better of a conversation and able to perform that much better.

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And something also that's really interesting, and I felt it for the first time with this podcast with Mark Sisson is that I interviewed a guy named Dr. Nate Zinzer who has done a lot of work with athletes, the cadets at West Point, their athletics teams, about building confidence and how to

Build unbreakable confidence. And something that stood out to me from his work and it's had a huge impact on me is, you know, understanding your future self and envisioning your future self and the the world that you want to live within, or the world that you want to build for yourself and putting yourself in certain environments, whether it's at work, for me, in this perspective, you know, with podcasting, like

Giving yourself the effective tools to know how to set up an environment where you can succeed the most. And Dr. Nate Zinzer talks a lot about when it comes to envisioning, and I feel like I've done this in terms of meditation. You know, when I get into a meditative state, I will meditate on, you know, my future self.

But in a way that I hadn't in the past, or the in a way that I hadn't thought about my future self. And I've come to understand it now as this relationship between being in the stands versus actually being in the seat. Because I feel like when I would envision my future self, like if we were at a sports game using that analogy, I feel like I would be the one in the stands and I'd be looking at my future self.

Who was the one on the field. And there'd be that separation. And it's like, okay, well, I'm not actually being my future self here. I'm looking at my future self like I'm a fan of that person, but I'm not actually that person. And what I learned from Dr. Nate Zinzer is like, no, you need to embody that person. And what that looks like is actually getting into like the really nitty gritty details of that person. It's not about what they're accomplishing.

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It's not about, you know, all the success or just thinking about all the accolades, but getting into the really minute details of what that person is experiencing. So for me, and when it comes to podcasting, what that looks like is me meditating on, you know, f feeling the chair that I'm sitting on, me feeling the lights on my skin that are in the studio, me looking across the table.

And seeing the guest, me looking at the microphone, just like all the minute details. And I swear that when I sat down in that chair in Miami with Mark Sisson, I was like, man, that's what's happening here. It's like I've been here before because I'd been meditating on this. I'd been meditating on all these minute details. And it just allowed me to one be that more confident. And two, and even more important than confidence, just.

more calm and relaxed and just like enjoying the moment. And that's the huge thing. I feel like I was able to enjoy the entire experience of being in Miami throughout the entire process. Where I was like exploring Miami. I was like, wow, this stuff is great. I love this city. And not just being like like I said, I was like nervous about the coordination and logistics of stuff and just hoping everything went right. But I was really able to enjoy this entire experience, which I'm really proud to be able to say that I was.

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The other reason why I was so relaxed and so confident for this entire experience I would say is because

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I had a real confidence going into the type of conver

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Another another reason why I would say I did have this sense of calm and relaxation to me, and this is also where I would say actually this is where the confidence came from, is that I had a real confidence for what I was going to be crafting with this conversation like I hadn't felt before. I'd I've felt a degree of excitement and confidence, I would say, th for all.

conversations because I would say I always become well prepared and like I have a game plan. But this time more than most, if not all, I felt like I had a real, I guess you could say like this is the first time where I felt like I had a real thesis for the conversation and what I was going to be building. And it all started with that first question and the entire conversation just kept I feel like it kept coming back to that foundational point.

Of what I started with. And what that foundational point was is that I was, you know, I told Mark, you know, because a lot of my research of what I do is listening to that guest on other podcasts. And I told Mark, I was like, Listen, I've heard you talk a lot about your journey and you ground it with this idea and this word of pivoting through life. And you would make a lot of pivots. But I said, you know.

For me, I actually don't think that gets to the core of it because I think to be able to pivot in life, you need to have a malleable sense of identity. And you can't get attached to one version of yourself or who you think the world wants you to be. And I asked someone was like, where does that sense of security and where does that malleability come from? And then just the entire conversation seemed like it branched off of that one idea.

And so like what I envisioned the conversation looking like, it took shape exactly like that. And it was so exciting and cool to see. And I feel like it created such an incredible final product of a conversation in an interview. And now so what I mentioned earlier was about how

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Other opportunities can come from podcasts. And I feel like that can happen even more when you have in-person interviews. There have been a few in-person interviews that I've done here in Austin, Texas, that have led to other opportunities of me getting connected with other people, which I'm extremely grateful for. And

There's been another direct correlation here with this Miami interview with Mark Sisson and other opportunities that are going to be unfolding here with another guest. And the cool thing about this is that

This isn't, you know, Mark introducing me to someone, but it's somebody who saw a clip that I put up of Mark Sisson and that unfolded into me having a conversation with that person and them going to be a future guest on the show.

And the reason why I'm saying that this entire Miami experience of, you know, flying there and shooting in person with Mark Sisson facilitated that is because I'm a big believer, you know, it was a better product. That clip, clips on Instagram or, you know, clips of podcasts do so much better when they're in person because it's just it's a higher quality video. You know, I'm a big believer that, and I've seen this.

It can be a great message. It can be, you know, a great

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You know, it can be a great idea or thought, but if the quality of it doesn't look good, then it's not gonna perform well. But when you have a great message, when you have a great idea, and you couple that with a high quality video, then special things can happen. And it's exciting to see how that opportunity and me pushing for an in-person interview.

with Mark Sisson in Miami is going to lead to this. And so it even makes the Miami experience that much more special.

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And what I'm also really excited about now, and this gets back to the logist and this gets back to the logistics and routine side of things, and hoping or thinking now that I'm like, all right, now that I've done this Miami experience once, when it comes to logistics, I don't need to have that nervousness as much anymore because I had the realization or the epiphany, once I got back to Austin, I was like, dude, like you have a Miami routine now, if and when you ever want to

interview somebody in Miami again. Like I have the studio that I like. I have the hotel that I like to go to that's close to the studio. There's the gym that I was saying that I, you know, is close by as well. Like I was saying, you know, I feel like I get better interviews or I'm better at podcasting when I work out, you know, the morning of. So it's just nice to know like, okay, I have a strategy and a routine here. If and when I'm not even gonna say if

You know, when I go back to Miami to interview somebody again, which is really, really gratifying.

And so in the final point that I want to make here, and the final point that I want to make here, and it's the most important point, and it's to motivate you, the listener, into working on those ideas that live within your head. There's a specific project or craft that you want to explore, or if there's just something that's living within you that's tapping at you, that's asking you to.

Bring it into the real real world. I want to leave you with this. So obviously we can market this entire conversation or the idea about this as I flew to Miami to interview Mark Sisson, a guy who sold a company for 200 million dollars. Wow, so incredible. Wow, like really impressive. But I wanna couple that with another idea.

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I'm just a kid who set up his computer and a microphone in his brother's bedroom. That's how this all started. I was just a kid with an idea. I'm still to a massive degree just a kid with an idea who wanted to start a podcast. And where I was at the time was living in my childhood house. And there was a spare bedroom, my brother's bedroom, and that's where I was going to start it.

And when I did start it, it was just about improving. It's just about, okay, doing this on a weekly basis, then doing the first interview, then doing the second interview, then eventually moving to Austin, Texas. Okay. Doing more interviews. Okay, now I can do an in-person interview here in Austin. I just reached a hundred episodes. And then one domino leads to another domino unfolding, leads to another thing, and then

boom. Now I'm in Miami interviewing Mark Sisson. It's just the next step in the process. That's like what I said. It was so exciting. It's so cool to say that I flew to Miami. But I didn't see it as this massive a accomplishment to a degree because it just felt like the next step in the process. And it's curious, I'm curious to know what the next landmark moment will feel like. Because or I'm curious to know what that landmark moment will be to begin with.

I'm not sure what it will be. And I don't need to know because it's just about the next step. And I I I know it'll be the landmark moment when I do get to that moment. And

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And I feel like my mindset, I've always had this mindset for, you know, being long term focused or neck but also, you know, next

And I feel like I've always had this mindset of, you know, being long term focused, but also just focused on the next step that's right in front of me. But I feel like it it got deeply ingrained within me with my favorite book, Shoe Dog by Phil Knight. If you don't know who Phil Knight is, Phil Knight created Nike. And what I love about that book and what I love about Nike is that Nike at the end of the day, or when it first started, what Nike is, it's just a kid who wanted to sell shoes.

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And now it's become a massive conglomerate, but that's what it was at the start. Something was once nothing. This podcast was just an idea in my head, and now it's started to alchemize into some really, really cool experiences and real opportunities and some special work being created. So take this entire story, take my entire experience as something to motivate you.

To see that you can do it as well.

That first step is part of the process of cool experiences happening. Cool experiences don't just come out of nowhere nowhere. They come from people who started with nothing, who just had that idea, and they just put themselves out there into the world. So with that, I hope you so with that, I hope you enjoyed this story. Me going into the behind the scenes of how this entire experience came to life of me going to Miami.

And I will see you for the next episode.