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How Does a Shaman & Witch Protect Themselves

Granddaughter Crow Season 9 Episode 6

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You can be spiritually open without being spiritually exposed, and that line is what we explore with spiritual protection that works in real life. We get questions all the time about how to protect your energy, why it matters, and what “protection” even means if you are an empath, a witch, a highly sensitive person, or someone doing any kind of intuitive or healing work. We start with the truth that changes everything: the brighter you shine, the more likely you are to attract other people’s projections, jealousy, and energetic clutter, even if nobody is “doing” anything to you on purpose.
 
 Together we bring a grounded, cross-cultural lens, pulling from Shamanism, Buddhism, angel work, and folk magic traditions like the evil eye to explain why so many paths agree on the same basic idea: there is an invisible world of energy, and you have to choose what you let in. From there, we get practical. We share a simple diagnostic that can save you years of confusion, “Is this mine?”, plus ways to test it using tarot or your body as a yes or no “human pendulum” so your nervous system can cut through spiraling thoughts.
 
 Then we move into the daily toolkit: cleansing and protection that does not require expensive supplies. We talk selenite for aura cleansing, cinnamon smoke as an easy home option, salt in the shower, and why cleanse first then protect so you do not trap residual energy. We also get into talismans and moon charging, healthy boundaries around your personal items, and the internal side of protection: self-care, therapy, journaling, and defending your magic from its classic enemy, self-doubt.
 
 If you want a spiritual protection routine you can actually keep, press play, try one practice today, and tell us what changed. Subscribe, share with a friend who feels “off” a little too often, and leave a review so more listeners can find the show.

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Welcome And Topic Setup

GDC

Welcome to Belief Being and Beyond with your host, Granddaughter Crow. Hi everybody, Granddaughter Crow, we're with yet another episode of Belief Being and Beyond. And you know we love bringing great people to great people, going beyond and beyond and beyond. And we thought Jenny C. Bell and I thought that it might do good to for us to go back to our beliefs. So we're gonna chat it up with Jenny C. Bell.

Jenny

Hey everybody, I'm Jenny C. Bell. If I think by now you know me, but if it's your first time tuning in, I am a practicing witch now for three decades, and I am the author of Spirit Crystals Divergent Witchcraft, and I'm also the host of a private community called Our Coven.

GDC

I love it. So Jenny C. Bell and I get a lot of questions around just different spiritual topics that are like back to the belief systems, back to the grounding. What is our topic today, Jenny?

Jenny

Yeah, so a question I get a lot in Our Coven, but also on Witch Talk, is about spiritual protection. People want to know how do I spiritually protect myself? Why should I spiritually protect myself? And what even does that mean?

GDC

This is gonna be a really good one. This is gonna be a really good one because I think that sometimes we get so ahead of ourselves going to the beyond, we forget to put on a raincoat and take an umbrella when it's raining outside, basically. You know, put on your galoshes, those types of very, very basic beliefs and protection. You know, when we talk about spiritual protection, I really see it as something that needs to be done daily. Just like I said, just like looking outside, looking at the weather. It's something that needs to be like, let me shore up everything so that I can move forward as the as the person, the authentic being that my creator created me to be. So where should we hit this from? Because it's such a

The Real Reason To Protect

GDC

broad topic.

Jenny

Let's talk about why. Oh. Because I feel like with a lot of beginners on this path, or even people who've been on the path for a while, it's like, well, why are we doing this? Like, why do we are are we doing spiritual protection? Like, what is our and what is our why? Because our why, it might be different from one another, it might be different from someone else's why. Everybody has their own reason. So, yeah, so what's your why? Why do you feel daily spiritual protection is essential?

GDC

Well, that's a good question because you know, the first thing that comes to my mind is that as a spiritual practitioner, I am shining my light. And moths are drawn to the light. And as a female, I am empowered in standing up, and that is going to bring a lot of conversations, both positive and negative conversations, my way. And it really is one of those things that the more that you show up authentically, the more that you have to get used to the landscape because you shine bright. And so that's kind of my why. The more that, like, for example, every time I get on a podcast or do a reading or teach a class or write a book and release it, these are times that I'm putting myself out there, and that is some of the most powerful thing to do, but it is also very vulnerable. And so I gotta shore stuff up. That's why I believe that spiritual protection is very, very beneficial because it's not, it's not always that I think somebody is making a poppet and putting like needles in me. But maybe they are. I don't know. But the thing is, is there'll be the people will give you that. Oh, well, who do you think you are and what gives you the right? And all of these things, these voices that have kept us silent for so long, are still out there. And so we need to be able to shore ourselves up in spiritual protection. That's why I think daily, and the more that you grow as a witch, and the more that you put yourself out there as a spiritual practitioner, the more that you need to make sure that you are protected.

Jenny

100% agree. Um, my why is similar, but I also want to explain like something that I really like to do is I study different modes of spirituality, different religions. And

Invisible Energy Across Spiritual Traditions

Jenny

when they all agree, then I go, okay, this is really important information, right? So I did take, I have taken sh classes in shamanism, and that course taught me that there is just an invisible world, and there are beings and energies, and they don't see themselves as negative, but they will feed off of you, and that doesn't feel good. In Buddhism, they call them the hungry ghosts, and the hungry ghosts wander the earth and they will feed off of you because they are hungry. And when I studied under Kyle Gray through Angel Team, he talked about you know, there's angels and there's love and there's light and there's ascended masters, but then there's also energy that is equally as powerful and not really interested in upping your vibration and helping your light. Right. Right? So we have like shamanism, we have Buddhism, we have angels, we have folk magic. You know, I'm Italian, Italian folk magic, you don't take compliments from strangers or people that you think are jealous of you. So I've taught my children if someone's like, Oh, I love your outfit, you say, Oh, that's so kind. You don't say thank you because you don't want to actually take it. You know, my friend is Mexican and her Mexican folk magic, if someone touches her hair, she immediately washes it and cleanses her energy because she thinks someone has tried to put the evil eye onto her. So this is all over the world, it's across time, it's across cultures. Everyone's saying the same thing. There is this invisible energy that could go either way. And if you don't make a choice as to what energy you're letting in, then you get all of it.

GDC

Yeah. And you know, it that kind of leads me to the next thought is that where do you get all of it? Like, how does it land? Sometimes, and this is where I kind of go back to the four bodies of existence, where it's like sometimes your physical body will experience it, sometimes your emotional body will experience it, sometimes your mental body will experience it, and sometimes your spiritual body will experience what we're talking about, this draining, this I want to consume or you know, lower your energy and not give back or praise your energy. You know, so how does, for me, I just kind of open up the conversation of what does, why, how how does what are that's a big question. What are how are we protecting ourselves and in what way? It's not just spiritually, it also is in our mind, it also is in our emotions, it also could be in our finances, it could be in our physical body, it could be in our friendships, it could be in our relationships, and it could be in self-doubt, you know? And so I've personally experienced all of those where for me I'm out there, and and I'll just give a simple one. You know, I'm out there with a book, um, my newest book, Hochon, which I'll just go ahead and show you guys.

Jenny

So, everybody, it's a beautiful book. I'm so proud of this, and it's very honest and very vulnerable.

GDC

That book is extremely honest and extremely vulnerable. If you guys want to see, we do have an interview, you know, about this book. And the first thing that happens is you well, not the first thing, but we we send out that show, and then all of a sudden I get these

Where Energy Lands In Your Life

GDC

who do you think you are? Show me your papers, are you really indigenous? Where did you get your shamanic certificate? And I'm like, okay, one, did you guys even watch the video? But but you can logically reason it out, but still there was an inner child in me that was like, aren't I good enough? Aren't I enough? And so, in that way, the way that I can do spiritual protection is to short my own self-worth, my own self-esteem, surround myself with people who actually believe in me. That's just one example of how these attacks or whatever can harm. What do you think about that, Jenny?

Jenny

Well, I want to talk a little bit more about these attacks because, you know, here's how I separate like inner shadow or inner stuff going on versus something from an outside source or an entity or someone giving me the evil eye or jealousy. Um, you know, people can send psychic daggers, cords. How do I how do I distinguish? I will sit with an uncomfortable emotion, a physical ailment, um, a spiritual issue, and sit quietly, sometimes draw cards because that really helps, and ask, is this mine? Like it's that simple. Is this mine? Because a lot of times you'll find out it's not yours. And then when you find out it's not yours, that's when you have to do some work to, you know, relieve yourself of it. But that's so important. I think so many people on the spiritual path identify as an empath, which means that they're picking up what's not theirs often. Yes. And it can be like really confusing. That that really surfaced for me as a teenager, and I had horrible depression and anxiety, lots of horrible thoughts and things that later I as an adult realized were not actually mine. I thought I was like really struggling with mental health as a child as a teenager, but I wasn't, because it wasn't mine. I was wide open, I was doing a lot of spiritual practice, I was seeing ghosts, I was working on opening my psychic medium abilities, all of these things was really not proper protection,

Is This Mine Simple Tests

Jenny

and I was getting everything. And it was it was depressing, like it really caused, and I'm not saying that that's everybody's case. Definitely go to therapy, definitely see doctors, like do it all, really. But if you really come down to it and you're like, this isn't mine, that's when the spiritual practice I think comes in.

GDC

I love that. And actually, I have a perfect way, a tool for everybody to do in order to find out. There's many, many ways to find out, is this mine? But I think that that is the first number one question. Is this mine? And if it is, deal with it. But if it's not, then you have other ways to deal with it. So when I I use my physical body as a human pendulum. And so the way that I do this, and you can find your own way to do this, people listeners. Um, I sit where I am straight or I stand with my feet about, shoulder width apart, relaxed knees, kind of sitting in my um, I guess, root chakra, and just kind of being there. And then I say a statement out loud. I'll say something like, um, oh, you know, uh, today is Friday. And the answer is no, but today is Friday, my body will kind of, for me, my body leans back as though it's resisting that information, like no distancing itself. And then if I say something like honest, like today is Thursday, I'll feel a pull towards in my body. And so once you can get your yes and no down, well, basically you can ask your body and your body intellect a lot of things. But when I'm sitting there in the energy and my mind doesn't know because it's afraid, did I do this? Did I do that? Where's the protect, you know, is it mine or not? And my emotions are like, ah, it's always my fault, and what do I do? My body cuts through all of that and is just like, no, this is not yours. Yes, this is yours. And just a key point with that is if it goes yes, no, you got to kind of break it down, like what part of this is mine, what part of this is not. So that's just kind of a do-it-yourself human pendulum. A lot of people, you will feel a yes or no in your body. And the more that you get to know what that yes or no feels like and how to work with it, you're a human pendulum. Use it all over the place, people. Use it for the phone.

Jenny

And that requires no tools.

GDC

No tools?

Jenny

And nothing but you.

GDC

Yeah. You can be at the office or you know, at the grocery store or wherever, and just kind of stand there and go, no, yes, no. And it helps. So that's a perfect first question. Is this energy originating from me? No.

Jenny

No. Now what?

GDC

Now what? Yeah.

Jenny

So I have a couple of things if for people that are watching, if you're listening, use your imagination. Okay. Um, but first thing I have is the biggest piece of selenite in my house. I have much smaller pieces. Um, but selenite is a cleansing

Low-Cost Cleansing Tools That Work

Jenny

stone, and it is very inexpensive. Very inexpensive. And it never needs to be cleansed itself. Sometimes it likes a little moonlight. Like if it's looking a little dusty, I'll give it some moonlight because it's connected to the moon. But it's a self-cleansing stone, which means that you can use it to cleanse you, your space, and other things. So a very simple cleansing ritual is to take a selenite wand, not this giant one, but a smaller one, and go around your aura, your chakra, your body. Yeah, you have a friend do it for you. Um, you can also use sacred smoke to do this. I, you know, you can, it's it's kind of up to you like what's in your house, what's in your toolbox, but cleansing your space. So I have a it looks like something else. It's a cinnamon stick. Um and I've been using the same cinnamon stick from the grocery store for months to use for cleansing and protection. And so you don't need to go and get something expensive. You can go to your grocery store and just use this one cinnamon stick. It lights, it smokes, it's enough to I clear the space, clear my energy. And then one other one I don't have with me because it's actually in the shower. But I get pieces of like big pieces of rock salt or Himalayan salt, um, or you can have a little bowl. And I at the end of my shower, I put it over the sh over my head, over the sh in the shower stream, and I ask for my energy to be cleansed because salt is very cleansing, it's very protective. I just sit there and I breathe, and I let whatever is you're in my aura and my body just kind of fall away. And those are three really inexpensive tools that people can use, I think, to cleanse their own energy. Absolutely.

GDC

You know, I love that because once you know that it's not yours, the visual that I get is that it is a smoke or something that's trying to come at you, not something originating from you. And or spider webs or whatever it is. And and if you can reinforce your arraic field, is a way with those tools really helpful. One thing that I do is every full moon I do ritual, and a part of my ritual is charging some very, very easy tools like these earrings and this. I will lay them on the altar and I will ask for the moon to charge them with protection, with spirit. And so basically, how I see

Talismans Moon Charging And Boundaries

GDC

it is when I put these on, it radiates out around me, feet around my physical body, and also into the unseen world, into all of that. And so then it's but it's a constant thing. I go back and recharge, gotta plug it in, and then when I wear it, right, then I do, then I do that. So even in a daily practice, sometimes I'm just like, well, let's take it to the charging station, charge it up under the full moon, cleanse it under the new moon or whatever, and wear it throughout your day. And I do that all the time. If you've ever seen, you know, my earrings or anything, you're like, why she always wear the same ones? I'm like, oops, ask the moon.

Jenny

Yeah. No, I love that. So I also have a new book, uh, Divergent Witchcraft, and there's a whole chapter devoted to spiritual protection, and I talk about exactly what you're talking about, which is creating a talisman. That's really what you're saying, right? So you take something that is a piece of jewelry, um, a red string. A lot of people just tie a red string around their wrist, something, and then you are imbuing it with a purpose and with energy from somewhere, like the moon. And that's such a really easy thing because you only have to, you know, like cleanse it and reactivate it, new moon, full moon, and then you're wearing it every day. It's like so easy for someone to be able to do, and you and you don't have to buy anything because you probably already have a piece of jewelry that you wear.

GDC

Yes. And and that's so beautiful because it also allows you to like wear it to the mundane muggle world. And in a very interesting way, if you wear a magical protection or a talisman to in that space, people sometimes people want to touch it, but so just tell them, you know, don't touch. That's you know, that's mine, right? No healthy boundaries, but also there is a sense of I'm empowered, I'm protected, and that energy begins to come through your Auraic field, and and it shows a strength. Um, you're standing upright and everything in what you do, which kind of brings me to another point I wanted to mention in this because I'm having so much fun and there's so much to talk about.

Jenny

We can talk for hours.

GDC

Yeah, I know we could talk for hours. And if you tune in, like, subscribe, share, you'll hear us talk for hours, people. But one thing that I think about with spiritual protection or protection in general is that there is a lot of things that you can do externally, and there's a lot of things that you can do internally. So, what I mean by that is shore yourself up. Make sure that you are acting on your healthy boundaries, make sure that you

Internal Protection And Defeating Self-Doubt

GDC

give yourself permission to be discerning and make sure that you have self-love, self-care, that you're not overextended because when I am overextended, I get thrown out of balance. Yeah, and when I'm thrown out of balance, I'm not as protected. You're vulnerable. I'm a little bit more vulnerable. And so I like to do a lot of work on who am I? Do I have, you know, my healthy boundaries, self-love, self-care, self-expression? And it just kind of almost ties back to what I was initially saying. I am a light in the world, and moths are drawn to the light, and so I have to reignite my light and feel empowered with who I am. And we're all magicians to one degree or another, whether you call yourself that or not, when you do any type of this spiritual work, I say you're a magician. And the arch nemesis of magician is self-doubt. Yes. Yes, and that is what we also need to protect ourselves against. And if you are feeling like, I'm not saying don't feel vulnerable. I'm not saying that you know you should or should not question yourself. I'm saying don't go out there until you shore yourself up and recognize, hey, you know what? I'm worth it. I'm good. Spirit's got me. And when you stand in the world like that, it's almost an automatic protection plus all these things that we're doing. What do you think about that?

Jenny

I really love that. So, what I'm hearing is that part of our spiritual protection is doing the work, right? Like going to therapy if that's available to you, or you some You're interested in doing shadow work, writing affirmations, journaling, meditating. It's a lot of the internal. Because I love that because when we don't tap into the internal, something can be off in our energy or in our mind, and it it'll come out later, but it'll come out probably in a more um explosive way, right? So it's like for people that everyone has been through a situation like this where like suddenly you just blow up at a loved one out of no, seemingly out of nowhere. And they're like, whoa, like what's going on? But it's because there was all this stuff going on internally that you didn't deal with. And that happens because life gets busy. But when we have practices like journaling, going to therapy, meditating, sitting with ourselves, you know, all of those kind of quiet activities where we're really working on the inner workings, we become more aware of what's going on and in that way less vulnerable to other people attacking us or us taking things personally, or us even like overriding our own boundaries, because that's part of spiritual protection too.

GDC

I absolutely uh 100% agree. It's it's taking care of the internal counsel, knowing who you are, so that when somebody tells you something that's not true, or somebody tells somebody else something that's not true, they'll see that your authenticity is there and it won't be questioned. It's actually a protection in and of itself too. Yeah. Do you have any more tools? Because we're about ready to wrap up, and I'm just like, I have so many tools that I'm just like, um, I think so.

Jenny

One thing I always go back to is cleanse and then protect. So we kind of talked about some ways to cleanse your energy. Um, because what happens is if we don't cleanse our energy before we add protective jewelry or protective circle or protective prayers or layers, we kind of lock in what is already there. And I like to do this protection in the morning. I cleanse and then protect because our sleep, even though I pray to be protected in our sleep, our sleep, we a lot of us wander. Like I'm just gonna be honest with you. And that could be a whole nother episode, but a lot of us travel when we're sleeping. And so you might come back into

Cleanse Then Protect Call Yourself Back

Jenny

your body, into the earth, and be like, I feel weird. It's important to cleanse, right? So it can be as simple as like washing your face, it could be like things like we talked about using salt or using a selenite wand or something. But I think cleansing, then adding whatever protective layers you want is key to like really feeling protected.

GDC

I love that. Because what what I see it as is I cleanse away residual energy. And so, kind of back to what you were saying about in the shower, you have that shower going over you. For me, I'll jump in the shower and I'll be like, I'm going to let this water cleanse the residual energy away from my nervous system. Uh, I'm gonna allow this to go through my emotional body and cleanse residual energy. I call it residual energy. And because at that point it's just not yours. So it's just like whatever's not mine. And I do that with my mental body relieving and then my spiritual body, and then what I do to protect, because I think it's a very strong point. I wander, I go outside of my body, I do all of that. But you you channel, you work with clients. I channel all the time. Yeah, and so what I do is at nighttime, and I think this is you crop you probably see a version of this on social media, um, or I took a couple of them. This is kind of what I do is I say I call myself back to myself. Yes. And if there is a memory of me that or a past thing of me that somebody else holds, that's is not tied to me any further. I mean, it's a very, very if my memory is I'm not tied to the way you think of me, is what I'm saying. Yes. I am not tied to if you're okay with me, because maybe your perception of me is your perception and none of my business. So it's a very empowering way. So it's basically something like I call myself back to myself here and now. I am me, I am here, I am. And if there is any residual energies of me or my impression that are out there, um, I disconnect myself from them. I am here now. So I do that a lot.

Jenny

And I might be I might be borrowing that.

GDC

Oh, do make it your own and let's affect it. In fact, you guys, the listeners, I would love if you guys have some sort of a little tool or you want to play with any of this type of consciousness or whatever, please feel free. You can text the show if you're listening on a podcast, you can comment below, or you can also email us at belief being and beyond. Oh, belief being beyond at gmail.com. If you are enjoying the show, you can support it by liking, subscribing, and sharing. Also, connect with us, leave a comment, text the show option wherever you listen to podcasts, leave a review, or email us at beliefbeingbeyond at gmail.com. Also, I'm on Patreon where a small donation goes a long way. Find this and more episodes at granddaughtercrow.com. Thank you. Now back to the show. So that's yeah, that's one of the things that I do. And it and it it's empowering because then my little nervous energy of self-doubt and what does everybody think about me and none of our business. It's not my business. I like that is to be here.

Jenny

That's like a a different play on what I do. So uh, real quick, in the mornings, I asked my guardian angel and the angels who are with me for to gather any pieces of my soul that may have wandered and to cleanse, bless, and return them to me now. And so then I will do that, and then that's when I add all my protection. So I like ask them to I cleanse, I ask them to return all the pieces to me. Then I add protection. Um, that's something I started doing a couple years ago, and I felt such a huge difference. Because if you are feeling like disconnected or foggy headed or not quite grounded or whatever, and there could be medical reasons, but there could also be that you're a wanderer and you need to call everything back to you because you're over here and your body's

Daily Routines Wards Limpias Secret Names

Jenny

like, I can't, I can't keep up.

GDC

Yep, I totally agree. If you're gonna wander, make sure that you come back home. Yes. Yes, absolutely. I completely agree. Um it actually kind of brings me to the last thought that I have is that spiritual protection, how often do you do that?

Jenny

Oh, yeah.

GDC

And I mean, there's many, many ways, and I think it's different in everybody's lifestyle, but for me, what I would say is I have things put into place. Like I've grid my, I think it was probably about 15 years ago, I grid my property. And then as I'm falling asleep, I will visualize myself walking on the around the property and feeling the stones and activating them again.

Jenny

I love that.

GDC

And and then it comes back. And then, like you said, channel, read, psychic, intuitive empaths for all of you out there, whether you were doing this as a uh just in your spiritual practice or professionally, right? I when I was out there, one, two, three, read after read, I literally would protect myself. Every time I went into the office, I would just um burn a very beautiful incense around the door, and I would just say, nobody with ill will is allowed to enter. And then at the end, and then I'd light a candle, and then at the end it would be fine. But then when I would leave one space, spiritual cleanse, protect, and enter another place. So every time, that's how often I will do it, is when I leave a situation to re-enter another important situation or go to the grocery store. I will I will do that. That's how often I do it. It's basically saying I'm walking into this bubble. Now I'm walking out and I'm cleansing myself. So for me, I don't, I can't do it too much. That's what I have to say.

Jenny

I agree with you. I it's every day for me. It's like the the house is warded, the property is gridded, the uh front door is cleansed and runes are applied every first of the month. The whole house is cleansed and re like anything that no longer serves us and any negative emotion is cleansed on the new moon. The full moon, I ask for it to all be protected. Um, the car is protected, I wear the protective jewelry, I say a morning protective prayer with my children on calling on Archangel Michael. Um and then when things get weird, you know, like when it's like me or a family member has like one too many accidents or luck seems to not be on their side or whatever, I have studied Olympias, which is from Mexican folk magic, and I will and it's also it's interesting is the egg rolling is in Mexican folk magic, Italian folk magic, and Polish folk magic. And I am Polish and Italian. Um, and it's pretty much the same for all of those cultures, and there might be more out there. Um I think it's like all of like the Slavic cultures, but rolling the egg, it's like it's like a you're a new person. Um we also will use like herbs to cleanse. Uh there's all kinds of different versions. There's like you can use water to cleanse. But we use I reserve that just for when it feels like like we talked about. If there's something that's not mine, or there's there's my kids have, you know, had one too many accidents and got hurt one too many times, or you know, we're feeling like jealousies on us or whatever, then it's like special occasion cleansing. And I'll do that no matter the moon phase, no matter what. It's just like the need is there, we're doing it right now. Um and then, you know, if you're not comfortable doing those things yourself, it's okay because there's like lots of people that can do those things for you. Um just really research before getting involved with someone energetically like that. Um make sure you really trust them. Um but there's so many guides out there. And so I think uh more likely than not, people are not cursed. I think there's a lot of people that will be like, I think I'm cursed. I think it's very rare that it happens. It does happen, but you know, that's when we talk about what we talked about. Like, is this mine? And if it's not mine, where did it come from? And all of these things, and you just start asking questions using your body as divination, using a tarot deck as divination, getting to the bottom of it. But those situations I feel are rare, and especially if you're doing daily cleansing, daily protection, they become more rare because things aren't getting in. Um, the last thing I want to share, and it's very simple, very easy. Give yourself a secret spiritual magical name that you use in your ritual and with your guides and whoever you work with. And that way, when someone says, I curse Jenny Seabell, well, that you can do that all you want, because that's not my name that I go by in my spirit. And so that curse actually doesn't touch me.

GDC

And the final thing that I want to say is you will know, you will pick it up once you cleanse. If it is coming, if the energy is originating from the external, which uh as impacts highly sensitive people, do you know that most of the energy that we're experienc experiencing does not originate from self? That's just the way that it is. So if you get a lot of wow, I'm getting a lot of external energy, it's like, yeah, you're a you're a light, you're a light. That's how it goes. But once you are able to release, you just feel like you again. So that's how you know that you are okay, and then take a nap. Yeah, naps are healing. Naps are healing because it recenters cat naps are great. Well, awesome, Ginny. I

Closing Takeaways And How To Connect

GDC

love chatting with you about these big topics because there's so many ways that we can go. I think that we should do this more often. I agree, I agree. Absolutely. So getting back to beliefs so that we can go beyond with protection. Again, we would really love to hear what you guys have to say. Also, if you have any ideas about what do I want to hear, you know, Genny C. Bell and GDC talk about, just email us beliefbeingbeyond at gmail.com. We read every email. We will respond to you. And who knows, if you want, we might even give you a call out. So, with that, thank you so much. And we love you guys. Like, subscribe, share, do all the witchy wonderful things. Protect yourself, because we'll see you on the flippity flip. Thank you for listening to another episode of Belief Being and Beyond. Please subscribe and share with whomever would enjoy this podcast. And please leave us a review. We really, really appreciate that. For more about Granddaughter Crow, Granddaughter Crow.com. There you can learn about her classes, sessions, and all of her books. And for more about Ginny C. Bell, please visit Ginny CBell.com where you can learn about her books, her classes, and her our coven community. Thank you so much for listening.