Dove's Inner B.E.A.U.T.Y. Podcast

The Intersection of Therapy and Coaching in Trauma Healing

Demetria Nickens Episode 17

How Do You Approach A Discovery Call To Ensure Clients Feel Safe, Understood, And Confident About Taking The Next Steps In Their Mental Health Care?

Discover the transformative possibilities of trauma recovery as we engage with Demetria Nickens, a respected trauma recovery coach and mental health professional. She offers profound insights into the nuanced differences between traditional therapy and trauma recovery coaching, highlighting how each approach uniquely supports healing and empowerment. Demetria paints a vivid picture of therapy’s structured, diagnosis-driven method, facilitated by licensed professionals, while contrasting it with the personalized, empowering journey of coaching, where healing, courage, and self-discovery are prioritized without the confines of a diagnosis. This episode equips listeners with a deeper understanding of what might be the most supportive path for their individual recovery journeys.

In our conversation, we shed light on the dual approach to recovery, where therapy and medication management can be integrated with coaching to provide a full-spectrum support system tailored to personal needs. By addressing complex issues such as shame and its impact on personal goals, we guide listeners through the process of finding the right combination of therapy, coaching, or other support methods that best align with their healing journey. The ultimate aim is to empower individuals with the knowledge and confidence to make informed decisions about their mental health and move forward effectively in their lives. Demetria’s expert guidance serves as a beacon for those navigating the complex waters of trauma recovery, ensuring that each listener can find their way to a more empowered future.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Doves Inner Beauty Podcast, where we foster emotional awareness one individual at a time. Leading the way is Demetria Nickens, a certified mental health first aid instructor and trauma recovery coach with over two decades of experience in fostering emotional awareness in others by engaging their mental health.

Speaker 2:

Therapy or coaching. Demetria Nickens explains the difference between these two approaches to trauma recovery and how to decide which one might be best suited to your needs. Welcome back everyone. This is Garfield Bowen, co-host slash producer, back in the studio with Demetria Neekins. Demetria, how's it going?

Speaker 3:

So far, so good.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so, Demetria, how does trauma recovery coaching differ from therapy and how can someone choose between them?

Speaker 3:

So a couple of different ways when you think about therapy. You think about this idea of someone that has a license, someone that is going to provide you with some sort of diagnosis. They're going to have a treatment plan for you, kind of all pulled up from basic information that you kind of told them from probably one meeting, and they're going to meet with you and it's going to be you know a certain number of sessions that they have for you. It's a whole planned out situation. They're going to have a therapy theory model, kind of already ready that they come with. When it comes to therapy, right, very traditional, good thing. I'm not saying anything bad about therapy. I think therapy is important. I think, when it comes to coaching, this idea of coaching for me, at least when you think about trauma recovery coaching.

Speaker 3:

When I think about trauma recovery coaching, it is really more.

Speaker 3:

So I have years of experience. I have a certification. I am certified a trauma recovery coach from the International Trauma Recovery Coaches Association, so it is a certification, not a license difference. I don't provide any type of diagnosis. I don't like to diagnose folks. This is not about a diagnosis. This is about healing right, this is your journey and healing and getting past the things that are keeping you stuck.

Speaker 3:

I walk with you in this journey, right, so I don't create goals for you. Right, this is your journey. So when you think about coaching, coaching is about you coming with this idea of how you want this thing to go. Right, what are the things you want to work on? What are you stuck at? What are the things that you know? You have this trauma in your life and you feel like it's impacted you, but maybe you don't understand how. Right, this is about understanding who you are, understanding what you want to accomplish. These are not my predetermined goals. Right, I come with tools, resources, knowledge, education to help you through the journey, because I've been there, done that, and so when we think about this idea of coaching, I'm walking with you in this journey. Right, it is not from a place of hire or anything like that. Right, like I said, I walk with you. Right, I want to be there to provide you with a resource. I want to be there to provide you with a tool. I want to be the person that you confide in. I want to be a person that you decide that you feel like you're gaining trust back in your life because you've been consistently able to have our conversation right.

Speaker 3:

There's this idea of the three C's in trauma recovery coaching this idea of courage, compassion and curiosity. Right, I'm going to come in this idea of courage. Right, that you can sit through and deal with anything that you got coming at you in your life and you can do it Right. Compassion I've been there and done that. I've had the compassion for myself. I'm going to hold a space where you can have compassion for yourself, right. And curiosity I'm going to ask the right questions. Right, I'm not here to find a diagnosis. I'm not interested in that. I am here to help you find what you need for whatever goal that you decide you want in this journey.

Speaker 3:

Right, based on what I know about trauma recovery coaching, based on what I know about trauma, what I know about mental health, I'm helping you build a literacy, if that makes sense, right? My business is called Building Emotional Awareness. Understand you the beauty? Right, because that is exactly what I do as a coach. Right, I'm going to help you build your mental health literacy right, and understanding trauma. And I'm going to help you understand that, how it lives in your body right, how you deal with it on an everyday basis. And that all comes from my education and how I provide that to you and help you put the pieces of your life together right.

Speaker 3:

And so sometimes people come to me first and then they're like I still want to see a therapist, and that's totally cool, because maybe I just helped lay a foundation for you. And then you go see a therapist to get a diagnosis. It depends on the person. Some people are like nope, I just want to go straight to the diagnosis. I know that's what I want, that's what it is and that's what they go for, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3:

But there are some people who there is a stigma, right. The stigma is there. Right, they don't trust the therapist. They've tried that before. That's not for them, that's not what they want. They don't want to be judged in that way, right, I'm a no judgment zone. So the idea is, this isn't about any of that. I'm going to hold space for you, no matter what you say, no matter how bad it is right, no matter what is going on. I'm going to hold space for you in that and what you told me, I'm going to hold space for you.

Speaker 3:

In the situation Right now. Are there things that are like reportable Absolutely, I'm not going to sit and you know, just, oh, there's child abuse going on. No, ethically, absolutely there are ethic rules and regulations that I am held to as well. So, absolutely there's ethics. So and I don't want people to think that either People think, oh, you know, oh, there's no ethics. Of course there's ethics. Of course it is a coaching association. Of course there's ethics.

Speaker 3:

So it's important to remember that right, that if there is mandatory reporting, things that have to happen just like there are in therapy, but this idea that the relationship is just different, it's not a power differential right, I don't have that. I'm not trying to create that. So that is important to me, that you understand that I come from a space of. I have been here, let me help you through this. It's almost similar to peer support, if that makes sense. That's why it's different, right?

Speaker 3:

Some people prefer it that way and some people don't. Some people need a stepladder to get to therapy and I feel like that kind of is who I am as well, so it's just another option to me. When you think about coaching versus therapy, it's an option for people where that is stigmatized. Maybe this step is easier first, before they get to therapy right, and that's fine too. I can work with therapists where we can work in tandem together, right. Maybe the therapist is working on something specific and I'm working on something specific and we come together to manage the person as a whole. So it can be a collective, it can be individual. It really depends on the person and what they're looking for in terms of healing.

Speaker 2:

So if coaching is like the pep talk version of therapy, does that mean that you're like a life cheerleader?

Speaker 3:

You know what I like that actually? Yeah, I would totally do. I feel like I'm a life cheerleader, yeah, for mental health. Right, a life cheerleader for mental health. I like that. I might use that.

Speaker 2:

You know you talked about both of them overlapping. Is it okay to have both on speed down, the therapist and the coach?

Speaker 3:

absolutely. You know your therapist may be prescribing you medication. I have no interest in prescribing you meds. That is not my life. However, meds may need to really seriously be a part of your life, so maybe that therapist is in your life to help provide those meds. They help to stabilize that whole situation around your medication. I'm not, and so maybe me and you are talking about your shame and how that shame impacts how you move forward in life with your goals Two very different things still helping the person. So, absolutely, I think it's better when you have both, but it just depends on the person and what you feel like you need.

Speaker 2:

I guess the ultimate word is recovery. So if you need a coach, a therapy, whatever you need to do, just get recovered. Demetria, you have a wonderful rest of the day. We'll see you in the next episode.

Speaker 1:

Thank you thank you for tuning in to the doves inner beauty podcast, where we foster emotional awareness, one individual at a time. For a complimentary consultation, visit dovesinnerbeautycom or call 336-298-6599. That's 336-298-6599. That's 336-298-6599.