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Amy Goodgame & Marty Booth Episode 36

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Social Media Screen Time Detox Debate

Speaker 1

Welcome to Hit Real Quick Still January .

Speaker 2

Still is .

Speaker 1

I wonder if anybody's resolution I'm guessing it was a lot spend less time on their phone or social media .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm going to say it's probably top five . That's up there , at least top ten yeah .

Speaker 1

I should have technically said that was one of mine , but I struggle Well , because it's addictive . But I'll say I'm gonna take it off my phone and only have it on my iPad , or I'm gonna take it off my iPad and only have it on my computer .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

Do you have it on your phone still ?

Speaker 2

I don't have it on my phone , I've had it . And when I say it , for me , it's Facebook and Instagram and it's not because I'm posting my really cool lunch plate photo or that . I'm you know whatever . I'm not very like . I don't do a great job of taking pictures of myself and my family anyway but mine is just like anybody else . Like what's your poison ? My poison is watching those yard renovations where that guy goes and does people's yards for free .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , I watch those .

Speaker 2

Puppy videos , baby videos , people cleaning rugs , sometimes recipes or life or house home repair hacks , and then just , it's not even that many friends . I mean , if you're on Facebook at all , it's that same , like I don't even get anything but ads anymore and five people , you know . But then I'm on the thing going . Well , I ordered that because I saw it on Facebook . Yeah , I feel it's a vicious cycle .

Speaker 1

I feel like Facebook and Instagram . That's the two I'm on .

Speaker 2

I've never done .

Speaker 1

Twitter .

Speaker 2

Never done it .

Speaker 1

Or the TikTok , I can't . Or if that goes dark , I don't know Whatever . I've never done those because I don't know it's too much .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and .

Speaker 1

Twitter is just like too . I'm too old , I don't understand it .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

I can barely barely do Instagram .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , no , I know .

Speaker 1

You know I'm old enough to want to look at it , but I'm also old enough to be like I'm going to mess that up .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Did I click on ? You know ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , oh yeah . I don't know how to work it . I'm just looking at it .

Speaker 1

It's kind of like a yeah , Sometimes I feel like I'm 15 on there . I'm just like oh , I got this Boom , boom , boom .

Speaker 2

And the other times I'm 95 , I'm like hold on , uh , go back . It's like when we bought our grandparents a vcr , why , you know ? I mean they don't know how to do it . Then he does to come over and do it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , I don't it's too much and I fall into that like , uh well , it's a black hole yeah because you get on there and you're like I'll wake up , all right . All right , here we go , so I'll wake up . All right , all right , here we go , so I'll wake up . I have a cup of coffee and I play my . I think I feel like every adult has a dumb game they play in the morning while they have coffee or something .

Speaker 2

OK , yeah . I just read the depressing news . See other than depressing news .

Speaker 1

I upgrade my stupid Marvel characters and let them back . It's just mindless , yeah , just mindless , yeah , um , just mindless progress , yeah , and I don't have to focus on anything else , right , but then you do that , and then you , I don't know you run out of energy or whatever .

Speaker 2

Yeah , time to start the real day .

Speaker 1

Guess I got to hop into Facebook . Um yeah , but what scares me is not scares me . Oh yeah , it does , I'll get on there . I have my cup of coffee and then , the next thing you know , I wake up about 530 or 6 , sometimes 630 , whatever . I'll have one cup of coffee , get on Facebook or Instagram , whatever , and then the next thing you know , one of my boys will walk downstairs on a saturday morning I'm like oh it's , oh , it's 10 oh wow , yeah like I've been on here three hours just reading articles yeah , what reading ?

Speaker 1

reading articles watching reels yeah , whatever have accomplished . Whatever have accomplished .

Speaker 2

Nothing .

Speaker 1

Nada , yeah , and just I didn't gain anything .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But it's crazy because I'll , and then you also get into how to cut down screen time .

Speaker 2

Something will pop up yeah .

Speaker 1

On Facebook or Instagram . I'm like how to cut down screen time this year , well where did I ? Read the article .

Speaker 2

Right , I'm on it right now .

Speaker 1

I had to scroll to figure out .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Where to cut down on screen time .

Speaker 2

Right , or you're not like doing anything . You're not doing anything constructive , but then you're watching these people organize their fridges like they're a you know high-end like grocery store where they're like taking everything out of the packages and putting them . You know , you've seen them with the clear bins and all this stuff and you're like that looks cool .

Speaker 1

Like I'm going to do that .

Speaker 2

And A I'm like , first of all , nobody's fridge looks like that . B I don't think I should have 24 mini chocolate milks for my kids to have . That's like going . Yeah . It's just all kind of unrealistic . And it's so like the irony of all that stuff is so thick to me , like we're on social media or whatever a screen of some sort . We're watching people like organize their perfect fridges with their perfect nails and their perfect this and their perfect that and like you know how long they edited that video .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and like something in their life is lacking because they're doing that instead of the other thing . And then , but then we all struggle with I don't know why . I don't feel good . But then we've been on a screen and we don't read a book anymore . We don't . I mean , I used to read a lot . I don't .

Speaker 1

I don't read . I didn't read a lot and I read less now .

Speaker 2

Or , like you know , go outside or get a hobby or do the things or , I don't know , get an extra job .

Speaker 2

I don't know what it is , but it's like it's just a time suck and I get it Like people use it for work , or if they have a startup company or if they have their own thing , like the pros of it are legit I mean truly right , because we have a payroll quick page , whatever but it's . Or like somebody wants to get music out there , or they wrote a new book or they you know , but man yeah .

Speaker 1

It's a blessing and a curse .

Speaker 2

It's dark and it's .

Speaker 1

I think it's past . We're at the point of no return . It is , you know , like social media . It's going to be there , or like a smartphone , you can't not do it . I mean you can .

Speaker 2

Yeah , but you can't undo that technology . And even if you wanted to , like you know , say you're out for the day and you've got a kid in school and they're maybe they're not even sick , the school doesn't even need to call you , right , maybe they could call your workplace or your home or school .

Speaker 1

Yeah , school gets out early for some crazy reason .

Speaker 2

But you're in between errands or you're in between work and an appointment , you can . You can also you can get a text from them . They don't have to disturb you . You can get an email , you can check their website , you can check their page on social media and be like oh , they're letting out earlier . Oh , my kid didn't turn this in . I need to make sure I send it with him tomorrow so he can go on that field . I mean , and not like just for convenience sake , cause I think , like you're saying , we're past that .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

It's not just for convenience anymore , it's how almost everywhere operates . Do you have the app ? Do you want a text notification about this prescription ? I mean hospitals , drugstores , schools , businesses .

Speaker 1

They all have an app .

Speaker 2

They're not going to go back to , like if you get a flip phone which I'm not against , like I know a couple people that have done it , but it's harder for you .

Speaker 1

Well , then you get a flip phone and then you get to checkout and they say , oh , do you have that app ?

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Because you saved 20% and you're like well , I want to pay the cheapest option .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But you have to have a smart phone . Or let's say this you have a flip phone . You're removed from all the smartphone madness .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

You travel to a different country , you land at the airport . You don't speak the language . Mm-mm . If you have a smartphone you hop on there , you hop on Uber , you type in you got your hotel .

Speaker 2

Yeah , bam A little car picks you up .

Speaker 1

You don't even have to speak . Well , you can't because you don't know the language .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

But you get dropped off . But if you have a flip phone , in that situation you got to go hail a cab .

Speaker 2

Or go to a . What did they used to call those cafes ? Internet cafe ? Hook up your laptop if you brought that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , then you're like Jason Bourne .

Speaker 2

Yes , okay . Sorry , put a pin in that for later , right , but yeah , like nobody does that I know it almost makes you sad , because I feel like , well , maybe not even seven , it might have been , you know , 10 or 12 years ago . We might have been , you know , 10 or 12 years ago . We might have been at the point where people could be like hey , you know what , we're all going to go in and get flip phones . We're going to , like , push against this a little bit .

Speaker 1

Right .

Speaker 2

But like you're saying , we're you're , we're here they bring you up just a fancy bigger cell . You know it's like they just bring you the thing Like it used to be a credit card machine , they with the paper and the carbon copy and all that stuff , or , you know , like one place you can pay at the table . It's just an iPad , which also , by the way , plays all kinds of stuff , so you don't have to talk or look at your family .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

I do not like that .

Speaker 1

I said . I said this last night we were . I see our youngest was downstairs , probably playing Fortnite or something . Our oldest was upstairs , probably playing college football online or Madden online , something like that . Me and Robin were in the den . I think maybe the TV was on something in the background . She was scrolling on her phone and I was scrolling on my phone .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

So we had five screens going and and for a second it hit me and I set the phone down and I told her . I said this is my least favorite time of the day .

Speaker 2

I said I hate this and she was like what are you ?

Speaker 1

talking about . I said you're on your phone , I'm on my phone . He's upstairs . He's downstairs . Two dogs are laying . Nobody's petting them . They're laying in the den just like I'm bored too yeah . And nobody's talking to each other . Yeah , I was like I can't stand it . Yeah , but you do it every day , like it's just easy . You know , kids get home from school . They do their homework . I was like , well , I'm done with my homework .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

It's cold outside , they do their homework . I was like , well , I'm done with my homework . Yeah , it's cold outside .

Speaker 2

We're not . I'm just going to go play for a little bit .

Speaker 1

I'm like okay .

Speaker 2

It's not , it's not great , yeah , and I mean we're guilty of the same thing . So I'm not like saying that about you . You know this is going to sound kind of d Like we're huge Pixar fans and like probably it was when our youngest was really small , like there were a few movies that we watched a ton , and one of them was WALL-E

Digital Addiction Detox Discussion

Speaker 2

. A lot of people didn't like that movie as much as a little more slow , not as much dialogue .

Speaker 1

I love that movie .

Speaker 2

But wow , that's where we're at , that's almost where we're at . You know , we're about to go to space and just be in front of our screens and little recliners to the point that our bones don't work anymore . And where are the plants at ? You know I mean it's a little dark but we're going to be real right now . But I mean , and it's not good for your mental health .

Speaker 1

No .

Speaker 2

And it's not just for kids . Like I was listening to a podcast and this actor producer and he was talking about , like you know , it's not just for kids . Like I was listening to a podcast and there's this actor-producer and he was talking about , like you know , it's not good for his mental health and so he goes backpacking every few months and like takes a break from his phone . The other guy that was interviewing him was like we have a time where we have our phones just shut off . Now he doesn't have kids anymore at home , but like when you go to a comedy club , right ?

Speaker 1

Right .

Speaker 2

Which I had not been . I've not done that but one time , since this has been around , but the whole put your phone in a bag .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Because A they're too expensive to just pop in a box or a basket or something and those things lock Right . The fact that we have to do that , I get it for , like the do not disturb feature , so you don't interrupt the act and you know . Or people don't know how to control themselves , but people don't know how to control themselves , or they'll subconsciously just reach for the phone and pull it out , because it's it's like smokers with a cigarette , or people that don't have to wear glasses anymore after LASIK they still reach up to adjust their glasses . It's that reflex , like now .

Speaker 1

I'll say that , as far as like , it's like any addiction .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Any addiction is , it's easier to quit it than it is to put rules on it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , any addiction .

Speaker 1

It's easier to go cold turkey .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

In the long run than it is to well , I'll only only on Thursday and Friday , or I'll only check my cell phone on it's . Yeah , it's a recipe for disaster to try to reign something in . You're not going to do it .

Speaker 2

You're just placing yourself at the top of the slug at that point Like when do you want to be pushed ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't know . Yeah , I'll say when it gets hard when life gets hard . I've quit a lot of things Mm-hmm . Social media is probably the hardest thing to quit .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , Hands down yeah .

Speaker 1

And well , it's funny to me because we say because our boys aren't on , we have two boys , 15 and 12 .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And they're not on social media and I don't want them on there . No , but it's funny because , like whatever In the Senate or whatever they'll like , vote on something to keep social media away from children until a certain age , which I'm like . I'm down .

Speaker 2

Yeah , go for it yeah .

Speaker 1

But I'm like it's funny that we go . You know it's not good for them , so we don't want them on it . I got news for you . If it's not good for a 14 year old it's not good for a 47 year old . No , so like if we , if you don't want your kids on it because you know it's not good and you probably just read an article about how it's not good for them on Instagram .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I know , it's the weirdest thing .

Speaker 1

It's like , oh , you don't need this , this is bad .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

As you scroll .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , it's twisted , it's twisted .

Speaker 1

It doesn't make sense .

Speaker 2

No , I was going to try to think of an analogy for that , and it's so weird .

Speaker 1

It's just hypocritical , so weird .

Speaker 2

It's just hypocritical , it's just . It's like a drug dealer or and you're going to get drugs and you're like I mean I'm going to keep coming to you , but I'm just going to not let my kids come to you . Or it's like I mean I know that's kind of dark and extreme you know , or it's like a 12 year old like can . I have a sip of that , like alcohol , cigarettes , vaping , all these things . It's like I want to go there Well it's , I'll show .

Speaker 1

I'll find a funny video or whatever , like some guy dunking a basketball , practicing on like watching stuff like that I used to watch , oh yeah . Highlight videos , but I'll find something on . Instagram or Facebook and I'm like , hey , look at this , guys , and it's real funny .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Or it's real cool , or like a sports highlight , yeah , and then I pull my phone back to me . Yes , and they're a little bit probably like oh , that's cool .

Speaker 2

Why can't we see that ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , how come you can get on that ?

Speaker 2

I know I've thought the same thing with my kids when they were younger . I think our daughter did have social media at one point , but she wasn't a big fan of it and our sons have never had it . My middle son's like I don't want anything to do with it . And our youngest son's like yeah , I'm just . Yeah , I mean , they've heard now enough like kids now , especially if they're I don't think they care as much about it .

Speaker 2

They don't care about it as much . They're kind of like , yeah , whatever you know , because I feel like they've heard enough of it trickle down to them . That's like that's , that's bad news . You know you can't .

Speaker 1

Or that's why or that's why we're trying to keep it from them because we know how bad it is .

Speaker 2

I know , yeah , we're like this is very addictive .

Speaker 1

We've gone behind the curtain . You can't stop once you start .

Speaker 2

No , I know , which is why we're sitting here talking about do you have it on your iPad or just your laptop ? And then because if I don't open my , because , okay , I don't like work from home or anything , I do a few things , but I don't need a computer unless I'm like I pay my bills on my phone right with my right my app .

Speaker 2

Sometimes I have to go on the computer for like tax stuff or business stuff or budget stuff or whatever to help my kids do certain things , but I'm not on my laptop every day yeah so for the last , let's just call it five weeks . On my laptop every day , yeah , so for the last , let's just call it five weeks . I haven't been on Facebook as much , but when I open it up and I'm like , oh , I'll just check it , cause , honestly , I've been checking Facebook marketplace for different things .

Speaker 1

Oh , okay .

Speaker 2

But then , and once I click on that little house button , that's the home that just showed you everybody's feed , which is about eight people , and then it's ads and famous people and dog videos and you know whatever reels .

Speaker 1

It's QVC . Don't click on the reel . It's QVC . Yeah , commercials with a picture of your friend's vacation every now and then . That's basically what it is . It's just ads now .

Speaker 2

I know I almost ordered some topical magnesium cream for people that are like me that can't sleep for hormonal reasons . Because I saw it on Facebook , I didn't order it .

Speaker 1

But you almost did I almost did . I went to the website and it's in your head and you will see it a bunch of other times and you will eventually convince yourself to order it .

Speaker 2

I know it's the most powerful commercial . Yeah , it reminded me a little bit of like if Truman Show was in our phone . Remember , like his wife in the Truman Show movie .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah .

Speaker 2

And she was like don't you want some of this coffee ? Laura Linney , I love her . But like you , want some of this coffee , laura Linney , I love her , but like you want to try this coffee because it's fantastic , and he's like what are you doing ? Who are you talking to ? Yeah , it's , we're just in a . Yeah , it's , it's weird .

Speaker 1

It's like , yeah , it's like I'm not alternate , yeah , reality , it's a little bit weird .

Speaker 2

Yeah , because then you look up no-transcript . Yeah , like the level of irony just spirals . It doesn't ever stop .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I don't know which is funny , because we put Well , and then people are like , I mean , I do the same thing . I'm like , oh man , I just don't have time to do this . And then , and then you find like , of course , I found this , I found this great quote .

Speaker 2

I think it was Instagram , maybe it's .

Speaker 1

Facebook I think it's Facebook , and it was like you don't need more time , you need less distractions .

Speaker 2

Amen .

Speaker 1

I found that on Facebook . I know Scrolling .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Probably the third hour .

Speaker 2

And I'm like .

Speaker 1

I'm like are you trying to convince ?

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But then you feel like a moron .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Because you read it on there , but it's spot on .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

Like yeah , and then like this stuff doesn't get done .

Speaker 2

I know .

Speaker 1

Like , hey , maybe we should clean out the garage this weekend . It's like if I went on Facebook .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah .

Speaker 1

It all during the week . The garage would be spotless .

Speaker 2

Right , or I would think let's go do this , or , man , I probably should go try that new , whatever yoga thing that I saw on . You know , but like even stuff like that , like certain things I use apps for , but it's not quite the same as social media . I'm going to say that , like you know , if you're checking a weather app , you're not on it for four hours .

Speaker 1

Right , If you're . Youtube is kind of like social media it's not social , but it's media .

Speaker 2

That's true ? I guess it's not . That's not as enticing to me . I'm sure it is to other people .

Speaker 1

Well , it's like news apps I use like the news app . Yeah , and normally it has the main headlines at the beginning , normally yeah . I'm always amazed at how you can pull up a news app . It's like all the big stories .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And you do a half a scroll , mm-hmm . And you do a half a scroll and then it's just all .

Speaker 2

I don't know some celebrity did something silly and you're like what Right ?

Speaker 1

Like that is a can of worms too , and it's like it's not even news .

Speaker 2

It's the National Enquirer .

Speaker 1

Pretty much .

Speaker 2

Just in the middle of the scroll Star Magazine InTouch .

Speaker 1

That's all it is .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm trying to get out of touch . Yeah , this is same stuff in people and in touch . You would save more time if you just went ahead and signed up for a subscription to both of those and just read them and then okay , done do people do ?

Speaker 1

they still have that like when you go to checkout , they still have magazines . I have , I mean magazines in general . I have a family member not in my immediate family who has a subscription to people magazine and she has had it for years I don't remember the last time yeah , they have magazines well , you know how , when you go to like , you'll be at a waiting room , but everybody's got a phone everybody's got a phone and first of all , touching that magazine no , that was nasty .

Speaker 2

but I'm saying yeah , yeah . But yeah , I read the headlines . I'm like you know , william and Kate did what . I mean I don't really care , but like I'm looking at it , or ooh , that soup looks good on the cover of that magazine , real simple or whatever it is . They're still selling them and magazines are expensive . This is a topic , but yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

They're like $12 or something . You're like what ?

Speaker 1

Well , you probably don't have rules on magazines . No , you didn't need them . Like when your kids well , our kids , like I said , 12 and 15 . Mm-hmm , Like our rule is we don't have , like we never told them it's a rule .

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 1

But like when we eat supper or whatever , like we don't , we don't have them at the table .

Speaker 2

Yeah , amen , yeah , we don't .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we don't have a whole lot of rules on them , like they have them in their room , stuff like that . But when we one rule we have is like , if we travel , yes , like if we're going to my wife's family's for like Christmas or Thanksgiving or something like that . I'm like if we're in somebody else's house and there's other people around , your phone is upstairs . Yeah , it's in a different room , it's not in your pocket .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

Like you see these people two , three , four , whatever , how many times ?

Speaker 2

a year . We're here for two or three days .

Speaker 1

Talk to somebody yeah , put your phone up . Yeah , uh , but it's hard because I'm the . I'm the worst at this like oh , man did you . Well , we talk in sports sure .

Speaker 2

Alabama , auburn sure and then somebody's like oh , that reminds me of that video and then one person pulls out their phone yeah , and you just told your kids don't you bring out your yeah , yeah , I hate it , yeah I hate when we're around like a group of friends or family or whatever .

Speaker 1

In every conversation and I do it too every conversation is oh man , did you see on facebook where ? Like , did you see on social ?

Speaker 2

nobody has like a like a genuine story yeah , it's the gathering spot because you know people used to talk about water cooler talk you know , like after a big sports event or the friends finale or you know whatever was on tv back , when you know it's just programming and you just watch things and at work or wherever the next day , you talk about it . Yeah , and so everybody saw the same thing . They saw it from the same source . If they even watched it oh , I didn't get to see it .

Speaker 2

Tell me about it , whatever oh yeah but everybody's got a different news source for different reasons , and there's a gazillion streaming things . So , no , there's not a lot of overlap in what everybody's watching , because there's a gazillion shows , which is great , whatever , and then now you've got social media . So if it's people that you know or people that are kind of like you or your friends , you probably did all see the same thing or something kind of near that . It's like that's what you talk about , that's your water cooler

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Speaker 2

. Talk now , or something big will happen , yeah like a national championship game ?

Speaker 1

yeah , but people won't talk about the game they'll be like . Did you see what their quarterback posted ? Right about the at the house , like before the trophy presentation said , or something like that . So now I gotta read about like what I don't know yeah girl , the wife of the coach , posted something that was mean to the other team .

Speaker 2

I don't know . It's all yin-yang . It's not even the actual content or the event .

Speaker 1

We make the actual content like sidebar .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's just the et cetera gossip miscellaneous .

Speaker 1

Anyway , but I'm not going to play it .

Speaker 2

I don't love it .

Speaker 1

I don't love where we are . I can't stand it .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and I don't think we're going to go back from the smartphone , if you can call it that , but I don't think we're going to go back from it .

Speaker 1

No , I mean , I know one or two people with a flip phone .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But I know , man . But I will say that is one of my favorite things . I used to . I gave up Facebook . I went on social media two years ago .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

I didn't do it for a couple of years . I would glance at Robbins every now and then if I wanted to see oh , somebody went on vacation .

Speaker 2

Right , yeah , sure , I want to see their pictures , but I remember like I'll talk to .

Speaker 1

I got a few buddies who I'll call like just random times , like I'll be in the car pickup line . I'll call my buddy in Roanoke , my buddy Lon . I'll be like I don't see him anymore .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

So like we just catch up . Yeah , and he's not big on social media .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so when ?

Speaker 1

I call him , I will get like oh , this happened yeah , I hear it for the first time it's new . I don't already know about it yeah that's what I hate . Is somebody going on vacation ? You'll see them somewhere and they'll be like oh man , we went to blah , blah , blah , we did this and you're like I know , I saw the 72 pictures right , I read the comments under it . Yeah , I know everything you're about to tell me yeah remember when you just have a conversation like oh , you did .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and you were surprised . I know it's the best .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , that's what I miss .

Speaker 2

Yeah , there's no like spontaneity or just conversation , for the true conversation sake .

Speaker 1

Yeah , or you saw somebody but you know , yeah , and they were like oh , I got to tell you I got the job , I applied for Got the job .

Speaker 2

Oh , that's awesome , right ? I also saw your new haircut , so you don't need to tell me .

Speaker 1

I know what you wore to the interview .

Speaker 2

Yeah , exactly , yeah , I don't enjoy that I don't enjoy .

Speaker 1

I don't want to know everything .

Speaker 2

Right . Yeah , I don't want to know everything about all over the world either . I'm not saying stick my head in the sand and not like not care for things , because I think we should all know , you know , but I'm saying too it's too much , too much . When they started the 24-hour news cycle , that was the beginning of the end , but you know it's like , and then you got to look at it every which way . But I mean it's like sports shows .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , ESPN is bonkers .

Speaker 2

We're talking about everything else but the show . And you've talked about this one game for weeks before you get to the game . Yeah , I don't know it's too many and everybody's got their own one . Yeah , whatever , pardon the interruption , all the things I'm not saying they're I love to watch .

Speaker 1

I love how they say pardon the interruption , yet they interrupt sports every day Just to yap .

Speaker 2

I'm like .

Speaker 1

I'd rather watch Cornhole than hear your opinion about the Philadelphia Eagles again .

Speaker 2

I do love TNT Shaq , Ernie , Kenny and Charles , though .

Speaker 1

That's a different show . Well , that's just comedy . That's comedic relief with basketball .

Speaker 2

I love it so much . It's just comedy . That's comedic relief with basketball I love it so much , but yeah smartphones man . I get it . Are you going to so okay ?

Speaker 1

What's the circles ?

Speaker 2

Go time . Are you going to take it off your phone ?

Speaker 1

I just point my gas , I think so yeah , I've even debated which we don't Like .

Speaker 2

Hey , real quick page or whatever we don't have time to travel like hey , real quick page or whatever we're like , we don't know , I don't know , we don't have time to travel , we don't post a time .

Speaker 1

yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , our three million followers will be ticked if we shut that down . But every now and then I'll post something yeah but it's that um . I don't like contributing to the problem I know so I'm kind of torn . I'm like I like kind of posting stuff every now and then because I think it's funny .

Speaker 2

Right or whatever yeah .

Speaker 1

But you know it's . You know it's an issue . You know people are addicted to Facebook or Instagram or whatever , mm hmm , yeah , I don't like . Yeah , I'm kind of torn .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

I want to shut it down . Sometimes I don't want to be on Facebook at all .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I know .

Speaker 1

Like I'm very . I have an addictive personality . I'm either a 10 or I'm zero .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Like I don't like . Oh , just you know what . I'll just start checking it .

Speaker 2

No , yeah , it's either like yeah , no , I get it , we're going to cross this bridge or we're going to burn it . Yeah .

Speaker 1

I can't do like , we'll just walk a couple of steps .

Speaker 2

No , look out . No , no , yeah .

Speaker 1

But yeah , the whole like the too much news cycle . Well , that's why everybody's depressed and angry yeah . There's two . If you're getting every bit of news from the entire world every second you glance at at your screen .

Speaker 2

There could be

Athletic Competition and Media Overload

Speaker 2

some bad stuff on there . 24 , 7 , right ? Yeah , because it doesn't lean to look at all the good things . Yeah , it doesn't , because that doesn't get clicks but like in the eight like when we grew up , parents went to work .

Speaker 1

Yeah , kids got on the huffy bike . Yeah , built a ramp . You jumped it whatever . Nobody knew what was going on .

Speaker 2

No , and then , they would watch Peter Jennings or Tom Brokaw at 6 while they're fixing dinner . And you still just heard it from the other room . Because you didn't care , because it was just like yeah .

Speaker 1

You saw the main stuff .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

You know , they may grab a paper .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Maybe watch the local news .

Speaker 2

It's gonna yeah , right , yeah is it gonna snow ?

Speaker 1

probably not . It's alabama , and then that was it yeah go roller skate in the basement , man with the dog nobody cares yeah I mean , stuff still went on , but it was nice , yeah , not to know about it . Yeah , I would .

Speaker 2

I don't want to be in the dark . No , but give me an answering machine with a little baby cassette tape in it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , I would love to get every bit of news . I'm good Sunday night . Give me an hour .

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 1

Hit the highlights and the lowlights . Yeah , and let's just knock this next week out .

Speaker 2

Yeah , do your best , be kind yeah .

Speaker 1

I don't need the Ocho with everything in the world .

Speaker 2

What is that ?

Speaker 1

Sorry , espn the Ocho , it's a joke from the movie Dodgeball . Oh , because everything's on ESPN , so like they had seven or eight channels and they're like Jason Bateman was in it . Yeah , it was a tune in , you know .

Speaker 2

Right .

Speaker 1

We thought bowling was too much .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , Fishing shows . We used to laugh at our dads watching fishing shows .

Speaker 1

Yeah , fishing is .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I thought NASCAR and fishing was like is that a sport ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , oh , they have everything .

Speaker 1

Spoiler alert neither is .

Speaker 2

Sorry , hot button issue Driving hobby , I know you sweat a lot and you can't pee when you want . Or you can Sorry , that's a hot take , but that's not a sport .

Speaker 1

It's endurance .

Speaker 2

It's a skill .

Speaker 1

It's a highly skilled endurance competition . You're not an athlete . I know you work out . I know you sweat . You're not an athlete . Yeah , if you out . I know you sweat , you're not a pure . You're not an athlete , yeah , if you're an athlete , you can Bo Jackson go out there .

Speaker 2

So F1 drivers , they're not athletes . They're not athletes , but they're skilled drivers . They're highly skilled Competitive drivers .

Speaker 1

They're highly skilled , competitive drivers who are in crazy shape and they put in the work . I don't consider them an athlete . They're in a crazy shape and they put in the work . I don't consider them an athlete . Yeah , I don't consider Tiger Woods an athlete . Even though he'd probably bench 400 pounds and do athletic stuff , I consider him the world's greatest golfer .

Speaker 2

So you don't consider golf athletics ? No , golf is not .

Speaker 1

If you can have a beer gut you know what I'm saying and play barefooted and get an eagle watch . John daly highlights that dude's been doing whatever he wants the entire day . He's barefoot and he's killing it .

Speaker 2

That's not athletes , if you can get better yeah , if you can go out on the same court as LeBron .

Speaker 1

It's not an athletic competition . If it was the guy with the gut , sorry wouldn't be beating the guy that- just won an Olympic event .

Speaker 2

It's a skill Athlete is the skill we diverge from social media . That's going to be , but I'm just saying , yeah , I get you Okay .

Speaker 1

Because the better athlete does not always win . Mm-hmm , here's my thing , usain Bolt .

Speaker 2

Yeah , right , yeah .

Speaker 1

Put him on a golf course . Yeah , maybe he's good , maybe he's bad , I don't know .

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm .

Speaker 1

But all but I get they can do it like John Daly or whoever is out of shape . They're good at golf .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Put them in anything else .

Speaker 2

Anything else Are they quote unquote athletic Race him in a 100-yard dash . Yeah , shoot basket .

Speaker 1

Maybe they can you know .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

It's just not .

Speaker 2

Tennis Pick up a racket .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Because tennis is an athlete .

Speaker 1

You can take an athlete and put them on a golf course and they can excel , tony Romo , whatever .

Speaker 2

There's some good golfers . Yeah .

Speaker 1

You take those golfers .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And you put them in the other sport . Yeah , take that guy that's great at golf , little Ricky Fowler , let him quarterback the Cowboys one day .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

And get hit by a defense lineman and run for his life .

Speaker 2

Right , I'm just saying the other side of it , not that I'm being devil's advocate .

Speaker 1

No , that's fine , Maybe .

Speaker 2

I am , is somebody would say , yeah , but he's not trained in that sport , he isn't trained for that sport . Right , but he's not trained in that sport . He isn't trained for that sport , right , but he's trained for golf . But you're saying golf , you can also show up with somebody's mother-in-law and she could be 67 and maybe she's not in great cardiovascular shape . I don't know why I'm picking on somebody's mother-in-law .

Speaker 2

What I'm saying is she might kill it in golf because she just knows how to golf . Yeah , but she's not athletic in the sense of you know , could you go do this spin class for an hour or lift these weights ? Is that what you're saying ? I'll say this .

Speaker 1

Pick an athlete , Somebody like Bo Jackson or whatever .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah yeah , today's athlete , you get Saquon , whatever . Yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

Today's athlete , you get Saquon Barkley running back for the Eagles . Right , pick 15 things .

Speaker 2

Random stuff , bowling , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

Track and field whatever Sure .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you let him compete , yeah .

Speaker 1

And then you take some random golfer .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Or F1 driver , and he competes in the same 15 . Yeah , or F1 driver , and he competes in the same 15 .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Saquon Barkley's going to win more .

Speaker 2

Yeah , he is , because he's an athlete . Yeah , okay .

Speaker 1

That's just me . Drop the mic , I got it . The bowler may win at darts bowling and golf .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , you know what ?

Speaker 1

We should discuss it on social media .

Speaker 2

Yeah , or maybe we'll get our own show on ESPN , because they might need another one .

Speaker 1

Yeah , or .

Speaker 2

ESPN 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , ESPN HD , ESPN U . The other day .

Speaker 1

I was trying to ESPN News .

Speaker 2

The other day I was U . I was trying to record a game . Sorry , I'm going into my no go . Cable thing , DVR .

Speaker 1

This episode is the equivalent of scrolling . It started with social media and we're ending up on ESPN .

Speaker 2

I'm going to shut up after this , but I was like I recorded it three times because I just wanted to record it on normal ESPN . But you know , sometimes if you record a game accidentally on the ESPN 2 , the feet , what you get the audio is a little more technical , like they don't have all the bells and whistles . It's too much .

Speaker 2

It's too much to even use your Back again . Here we circle back . It's too much to even try to watch TV , Because to record a game you could . It's going to play on five channels . One might be in French , Heck , I don't know .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

But then one might be the technical , like all right , we're going to break for a commercial here , da , da da , and you're like sounds kind of weird . Oh , we'll flip it over to the regular ESPN . Yeah , and there's .

Speaker 1

We were used to hearing it , oh Lord forbid , you get into ESPN Plus and then you've got to stream it . What is that ? Yeah ?

Speaker 2

I didn't train in TV .

Speaker 1

ESPN 3 .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Then you've got the ESPN app .

Speaker 2

I don't even yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I kind of miss like yeah , games not on .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you can watch it or not . Pay-per-view was the the most complicated guy and that was usually for boxing .

Speaker 1

But well , nobody's watching anything anymore because it's on . But they're just looking up from social media every now and then be like , oh , he scored exactly you're paying for seven streaming services oh , the super bowl's on , huh yeah .

Speaker 2

what did they say about the ? Yeah , give me a wing .

Speaker 1

Oh , do you see where they posted ?

Speaker 2

that meme about the halftime show .

Speaker 1

It's on right now the third quarter just started and there's already memes about the halftime show oh yeah , this is where we are . Buckle up , it is bonkers yeah .

Speaker 2

Oh , man , anyway Okay .

Speaker 1

And influencers are not athletes . I'm just going to throw it out there , sorry no .

Speaker 2

I agree .

Speaker 1

Well , get off your phone .

Speaker 2

Get off your phone or don't . You're probably listening to this with the podcast app .

Speaker 1

Yeah , wait a minute . Yeah , it's part of the problem .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we're doing it .

Speaker 1

Which I consider podcasting reading for people who don't like to read . It's like audible , you're nice . I mean , I'm not reading a book , you know what you are .

Speaker 2

You're the teacher in 11th grade English . That's like oh man . I hope you get her because she gives bonus work at the end of the semester . That's what you just did for people . Well listening to a podcast is the same as listening to an audible book ? No , it isn't . It's not a whole book , it's people yakking .

Speaker 1

But what if a book is garbage ?

Speaker 2

I mean maybe what if a ?

Speaker 1

book is not good , it's garbage . And you listen to it and you're like , well , listen to a book .

Speaker 2

Yeah , first , of all I'm sorry that you had to listen to it . No but don't people listen to books ? Yeah , audible , listen to it , but no , but don't people listen to books ? Yeah , audible , that's not reading .

Speaker 1

It's listening . That's listening a little bit everybody's like I read a book .

Speaker 2

No , you didn't . Yeah , exactly yeah is that what ? Wait a minute they're not reading this episode and , like the atlantic , I can tell you that so if you have a book report , yeah , you can just listen to the book . Yeah , it's gonna take you a while , though .

Speaker 1

Oh , it takes longer .

Speaker 2

I mean if somebody's reading it .

Speaker 1

I guess you can speed it up .

Speaker 2

I'm a slow

Audio Books vs. Cliff's Notes

Speaker 2

reader .

Speaker 1

I think if I listened to a book , I'd get the gist of it more . I'll read a page . I'll read one page and be like what just happened .

Speaker 2

I know I would have done way better in high school English if .

Speaker 1

I had an audible .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , somebody needs to call an audible . I can't , yeah . Yeah , that's what I tried to do before the book report was call an audible oh man oh man , Can we get the backup quarterback up here ? Cliff's notes . I was too lazy to read them things . I didn't . I'd get one of those and read the first page and the back page . I'm like that's about right .

Speaker 2

I got the gist of it .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , do not sign up for an Audible account .

Speaker 1

I remember last thing . I remember book reports . I would always pick the book that was a movie .

Speaker 2

Of course you would . I know the movie was different , it was .

Speaker 1

But I would still just do generalizations , yeah , but still just do generalizations , yeah , yeah , you know , just like yeah . I think what he was trying to convey was oh yeah .

Speaker 2

I saw a guy get busted one time because he watched the movie the Shining instead of read it , or it was one of the Stephen Stephen King .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

And he hit it wrong and like said the you know main thing . Yeah , that was the movie . The teacher waited till he sat down . She was like that was a great report for what happened in the movie .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

And the whole class was like boom burn . Yeah so yeah , don't do that .

Speaker 1

Anyway , well .

Speaker 2

All right , well , after this , get off your phone and go out into nature or something , and listen to read a book .

Speaker 1

Listen to a , I mean get off your phone and go out into nature or something and listen to read a book .

Speaker 2

Listen to a , I mean read it yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , anyway .

Speaker 2

All right .

Speaker 1

Have a good one , thank you .

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