"Social" Media

Chapters

• 0:21 Social Media Screen Time Detox Debate
• 12:20 Digital Addiction Detox Discussion
• 26:01 Social Media Addiction and Information Overload
• 31:24 Athletic Competition and Media Overload
• 41:35 Audio Books vs. Cliff's Notes

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:21

Welcome to Hit Real Quick Still January.

Speaker 2 0:24

Still is.

Speaker 1 0:26

I wonder if anybody's resolution I'm guessing it was a lot spend less time on their phone or social media.

Speaker 2 0:35

Yeah, I'm going to say it's probably top five. That's up there, at least top ten yeah.

Speaker 1 0:40

I should have technically said that was one of mine, but I struggle Well, because it's addictive. But I'll say I'm gonna take it off my phone and only have it on my iPad, or I'm gonna take it off my iPad and only have it on my computer.

Speaker 2 1:00

Right.

Speaker 1 1:01

Do you have it on your phone still?

Speaker 2 1:04

I don't have it on my phone, I've had it. And when I say it, for me, it's Facebook and Instagram and it's not because I'm posting my really cool lunch plate photo or that. I'm you know whatever. I'm not very like. I don't do a great job of taking pictures of myself and my family anyway but mine is just like anybody else. Like what's your poison? My poison is watching those yard renovations where that guy goes and does people's yards for free.

Speaker 1 1:38

Oh yeah, I watch those.

Speaker 2 1:39

Puppy videos, baby videos, people cleaning rugs, sometimes recipes or life or house home repair hacks, and then just, it's not even that many friends. I mean, if you're on Facebook at all, it's that same, like I don't even get anything but ads anymore and five people, you know. But then I'm on the thing going. Well, I ordered that because I saw it on Facebook. Yeah, I feel it's a vicious cycle.

Speaker 1 2:08

I feel like Facebook and Instagram. That's the two I'm on.

Speaker 2 2:15

I've never done.

Speaker 1 2:16

Twitter.

Speaker 2 2:17

Never done it.

Speaker 1 2:18

Or the TikTok, I can't. Or if that goes dark, I don't know Whatever. I've never done those because I don't know it's too much.

Speaker 2 2:29

Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 2:30

Twitter is just like too. I'm too old, I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 2:33

Yeah.

Speaker 1 2:34

I can barely barely do Instagram.

Speaker 2 2:38

Yeah, yeah, no, I know.

Speaker 1 2:39

You know I'm old enough to want to look at it, but I'm also old enough to be like I'm going to mess that up.

Speaker 2 2:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1 2:49

Did I click on? You know?

Speaker 2 2:50

Yeah, oh yeah. I don't know how to work it. I'm just looking at it.

Speaker 1 2:53

It's kind of like a yeah, Sometimes I feel like I'm 15 on there. I'm just like oh, I got this Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 2 3:05

And the other times I'm 95, I'm like hold on, uh, go back. It's like when we bought our grandparents a vcr, why, you know? I mean they don't know how to do it. Then he does to come over and do it.

Speaker 1 3:09

Yeah, yeah, I don't it's too much and I fall into that like, uh well, it's a black hole yeah because you get on there and you're like I'll wake up, all right. All right, here we go, so I'll wake up. All right, all right, here we go, so I'll wake up. I have a cup of coffee and I play my. I think I feel like every adult has a dumb game they play in the morning while they have coffee or something.

Speaker 2 3:32

OK, yeah. I just read the depressing news. See other than depressing news.

Speaker 1 3:39

I upgrade my stupid Marvel characters and let them back. It's just mindless, yeah, just mindless, yeah, um, just mindless progress, yeah, and I don't have to focus on anything else, right, but then you do that, and then you, I don't know you run out of energy or whatever.

Speaker 2 3:58

Yeah, time to start the real day.

Speaker 1 3:59

Guess I got to hop into Facebook. Um yeah, but what scares me is not scares me. Oh yeah, it does, I'll get on there. I have my cup of coffee and then, the next thing you know, I wake up about 530 or 6, sometimes 630, whatever. I'll have one cup of coffee, get on Facebook or Instagram, whatever, and then the next thing you know, one of my boys will walk downstairs on a saturday morning I'm like oh it's, oh, it's 10 oh wow, yeah like I've been on here three hours just reading articles yeah, what reading?

Speaker 1 4:37

reading articles watching reels yeah, whatever have accomplished. Whatever have accomplished.

Speaker 2 4:44

Nothing.

Speaker 1 4:44

Nada, yeah, and just I didn't gain anything.

Speaker 2 4:49

Yeah.

Speaker 1 4:57

But it's crazy because I'll, and then you also get into how to cut down screen time.

Speaker 2 4:59

Something will pop up yeah.

Speaker 1 5:00

On Facebook or Instagram. I'm like how to cut down screen time this year, well where did I? Read the article.

Speaker 2 5:07

Right, I'm on it right now.

Speaker 1 5:09

I had to scroll to figure out.

Speaker 2 5:11

Yeah.

Speaker 1 5:12

Where to cut down on screen time.

Speaker 2 5:14

Right, or you're not like doing anything. You're not doing anything constructive, but then you're watching these people organize their fridges like they're a you know high-end like grocery store where they're like taking everything out of the packages and putting them. You know, you've seen them with the clear bins and all this stuff and you're like that looks cool.

Speaker 1 5:39

Like I'm going to do that.

Speaker 2 5:45

And A I'm like, first of all, nobody's fridge looks like that. B I don't think I should have 24 mini chocolate milks for my kids to have. That's like going. Yeah. It's just all kind of unrealistic. And it's so like the irony of all that stuff is so thick to me, like we're on social media or whatever a screen of some sort. We're watching people like organize their perfect fridges with their perfect nails and their perfect this and their perfect that and like you know how long they edited that video.

Speaker 2 6:18

Yeah, and like something in their life is lacking because they're doing that instead of the other thing. And then, but then we all struggle with I don't know why. I don't feel good. But then we've been on a screen and we don't read a book anymore. We don't. I mean, I used to read a lot. I don't.

Speaker 1 6:39

I don't read. I didn't read a lot and I read less now.

Speaker 2 6:42

Or, like you know, go outside or get a hobby or do the things or, I don't know, get an extra job.

Speaker 2 6:48

I don't know what it is, but it's like it's just a time suck and I get it Like people use it for work, or if they have a startup company or if they have their own thing, like the pros of it are legit I mean truly right, because we have a payroll quick page, whatever but it's. Or like somebody wants to get music out there, or they wrote a new book or they you know, but man yeah.

Speaker 1 7:19

It's a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 2 7:21

It's dark and it's.

Speaker 1 7:24

I think it's past. We're at the point of no return. It is, you know, like social media. It's going to be there, or like a smartphone, you can't not do it. I mean you can.

Speaker 2 7:36

Yeah, but you can't undo that technology. And even if you wanted to, like you know, say you're out for the day and you've got a kid in school and they're maybe they're not even sick, the school doesn't even need to call you, right, maybe they could call your workplace or your home or school.

Speaker 1 7:54

Yeah, school gets out early for some crazy reason.

Speaker 2 7:56

But you're in between errands or you're in between work and an appointment, you can. You can also you can get a text from them. They don't have to disturb you. You can get an email, you can check their website, you can check their page on social media and be like oh, they're letting out earlier. Oh, my kid didn't turn this in. I need to make sure I send it with him tomorrow so he can go on that field. I mean, and not like just for convenience sake, cause I think, like you're saying, we're past that.

Speaker 1 8:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:25

It's not just for convenience anymore, it's how almost everywhere operates. Do you have the app? Do you want a text notification about this prescription? I mean hospitals, drugstores, schools, businesses.

Speaker 1 8:41

They all have an app.

Speaker 2 8:42

They're not going to go back to, like if you get a flip phone which I'm not against, like I know a couple people that have done it, but it's harder for you.

Speaker 1 8:53

Well, then you get a flip phone and then you get to checkout and they say, oh, do you have that app?

Speaker 2 8:57

Yeah.

Speaker 1 8:58

Because you saved 20% and you're like well, I want to pay the cheapest option.

Speaker 2 9:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 9:05

But you have to have a smart phone. Or let's say this you have a flip phone. You're removed from all the smartphone madness.

Speaker 2 9:13

Yeah.

Speaker 1 9:13

You travel to a different country, you land at the airport. You don't speak the language. Mm-mm. If you have a smartphone you hop on there, you hop on Uber, you type in you got your hotel.

Speaker 2 9:26

Yeah, bam A little car picks you up.

Speaker 1 9:28

You don't even have to speak. Well, you can't because you don't know the language.

Speaker 2 9:32

Right.

Speaker 1 9:33

But you get dropped off. But if you have a flip phone, in that situation you got to go hail a cab.

Speaker 2 9:40

Or go to a. What did they used to call those cafes? Internet cafe? Hook up your laptop if you brought that.

Speaker 1 9:47

Yeah, then you're like Jason Bourne.

Speaker 2 9:49

Yes, okay. Sorry, put a pin in that for later, right, but yeah, like nobody does that I know it almost makes you sad, because I feel like, well, maybe not even seven, it might have been, you know, 10 or 12 years ago. We might have been, you know, 10 or 12 years ago. We might have been at the point where people could be like hey, you know what, we're all going to go in and get flip phones. We're going to, like, push against this a little bit.

Speaker 1 10:10

Right.

Speaker 2 10:10

But like you're saying, we're you're, we're here they bring you up just a fancy bigger cell. You know it's like they just bring you the thing Like it used to be a credit card machine, they with the paper and the carbon copy and all that stuff, or, you know, like one place you can pay at the table. It's just an iPad, which also, by the way, plays all kinds of stuff, so you don't have to talk or look at your family.

Speaker 1 10:40

Yeah.

Speaker 2 10:41

I do not like that.

Speaker 1 10:42

I said. I said this last night we were. I see our youngest was downstairs, probably playing Fortnite or something. Our oldest was upstairs, probably playing college football online or Madden online, something like that. Me and Robin were in the den. I think maybe the TV was on something in the background. She was scrolling on her phone and I was scrolling on my phone.

Speaker 2 11:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 11:12

So we had five screens going and and for a second it hit me and I set the phone down and I told her. I said this is my least favorite time of the day.

Speaker 2 11:24

I said I hate this and she was like what are you?

Speaker 1 11:26

talking about. I said you're on your phone, I'm on my phone. He's upstairs. He's downstairs. Two dogs are laying. Nobody's petting them. They're laying in the den just like I'm bored too yeah. And nobody's talking to each other. Yeah, I was like I can't stand it. Yeah, but you do it every day, like it's just easy. You know, kids get home from school. They do their homework. I was like, well, I'm done with my homework.

Speaker 2 11:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1 11:54

It's cold outside, they do their homework. I was like, well, I'm done with my homework. Yeah, it's cold outside.

Speaker 2 11:57

We're not. I'm just going to go play for a little bit.

Speaker 1 11:59

I'm like okay.

Digital Addiction Detox Discussion

Speaker 2 12:00

It's not, it's not great, yeah, and I mean we're guilty of the same thing. So I'm not like saying that about you. You know this is going to sound kind of d Like we're huge Pixar fans and like probably it was when our youngest was really small, like there were a few movies that we watched a ton, and one of them was WALL-E. A lot of people didn't like that movie as much as a little more slow, not as much dialogue.

Speaker 1 12:24

I love that movie.

Speaker 2 12:25

But wow, that's where we're at, that's almost where we're at. You know, we're about to go to space and just be in front of our screens and little recliners to the point that our bones don't work anymore. And where are the plants at? You know I mean it's a little dark but we're going to be real right now. But I mean, and it's not good for your mental health.

Speaker 1 12:50

No.

Speaker 2 12:50

And it's not just for kids. Like I was listening to a podcast and this actor producer and he was talking about, like you know, it's not just for kids. Like I was listening to a podcast and there's this actor-producer and he was talking about, like you know, it's not good for his mental health and so he goes backpacking every few months and like takes a break from his phone. The other guy that was interviewing him was like we have a time where we have our phones just shut off. Now he doesn't have kids anymore at home, but like when you go to a comedy club, right?

Speaker 1 13:15

Right.

Speaker 2 13:16

Which I had not been. I've not done that but one time, since this has been around, but the whole put your phone in a bag.

Speaker 2 13:22

Yeah, Because A they're too expensive to just pop in a box or a basket or something and those things lock Right. The fact that we have to do that, I get it for, like the do not disturb feature, so you don't interrupt the act and you know. Or people don't know how to control themselves, but people don't know how to control themselves, or they'll subconsciously just reach for the phone and pull it out, because it's it's like smokers with a cigarette, or people that don't have to wear glasses anymore after LASIK they still reach up to adjust their glasses. It's that reflex, like now.

Speaker 1 14:00

I'll say that, as far as like, it's like any addiction.

Speaker 2 14:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1 14:06

Any addiction is, it's easier to quit it than it is to put rules on it.

Speaker 2 14:12

Yeah, any addiction.

Speaker 1 14:13

It's easier to go cold turkey.

Speaker 2 14:16

Right.

Speaker 1 14:16

In the long run than it is to well, I'll only only on Thursday and Friday, or I'll only check my cell phone on it's. Yeah, it's a recipe for disaster to try to reign something in. You're not going to do it.

Speaker 2 14:29

You're just placing yourself at the top of the slug at that point Like when do you want to be pushed?

Speaker 1 14:34

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'll say when it gets hard when life gets hard. I've quit a lot of things Mm-hmm. Social media is probably the hardest thing to quit.

Speaker 2 14:43

Oh yeah, Hands down yeah.

Speaker 1 14:49

And well, it's funny to me because we say because our boys aren't on, we have two boys, 15 and 12.

Speaker 2 14:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1 14:56

And they're not on social media and I don't want them on there. No, but it's funny because, like whatever In the Senate or whatever they'll like, vote on something to keep social media away from children until a certain age, which I'm like. I'm down.

Speaker 2 15:11

Yeah, go for it yeah.

Speaker 1 15:13

But I'm like it's funny that we go. You know it's not good for them, so we don't want them on it. I got news for you. If it's not good for a 14 year old it's not good for a 47 year old. No, so like if we, if you don't want your kids on it because you know it's not good and you probably just read an article about how it's not good for them on Instagram.

Speaker 2 15:33

Yeah, I know, it's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 1 15:36

It's like, oh, you don't need this, this is bad.

Speaker 2 15:38

Right.

Speaker 1 15:39

As you scroll.

Speaker 2 15:40

Yeah, yeah, it's twisted, it's twisted.

Speaker 1 15:44

It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 15:46

No, I was going to try to think of an analogy for that, and it's so weird.

Speaker 1 15:51

It's just hypocritical, so weird.

Speaker 2 15:52

It's just hypocritical, it's just. It's like a drug dealer or and you're going to get drugs and you're like I mean I'm going to keep coming to you, but I'm just going to not let my kids come to you. Or it's like I mean I know that's kind of dark and extreme you know, or it's like a 12 year old like can. I have a sip of that, like alcohol, cigarettes, vaping, all these things. It's like I want to go there Well it's, I'll show.

Speaker 1 16:20

I'll find a funny video or whatever, like some guy dunking a basketball, practicing on like watching stuff like that I used to watch, oh yeah. Highlight videos, but I'll find something on. Instagram or Facebook and I'm like, hey, look at this, guys, and it's real funny.

Speaker 2 16:37

Yeah.

Speaker 1 16:38

Or it's real cool, or like a sports highlight, yeah, and then I pull my phone back to me. Yes, and they're a little bit probably like oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2 16:48

Why can't we see that?

Speaker 1 16:50

Yeah, how come you can get on that?

Speaker 2 16:51

I know I've thought the same thing with my kids when they were younger. I think our daughter did have social media at one point, but she wasn't a big fan of it and our sons have never had it. My middle son's like I don't want anything to do with it. And our youngest son's like yeah, I'm just. Yeah, I mean, they've heard now enough like kids now, especially if they're I don't think they care as much about it.

Speaker 2 17:18

They don't care about it as much. They're kind of like, yeah, whatever you know, because I feel like they've heard enough of it trickle down to them. That's like that's, that's bad news. You know you can't.

Speaker 1 17:30

Or that's why or that's why we're trying to keep it from them because we know how bad it is.

Speaker 2 17:34

I know, yeah, we're like this is very addictive.

Speaker 1 17:37

We've gone behind the curtain. You can't stop once you start.

Speaker 2 17:40

No, I know, which is why we're sitting here talking about do you have it on your iPad or just your laptop? And then because if I don't open my, because, okay, I don't like work from home or anything, I do a few things, but I don't need a computer unless I'm like I pay my bills on my phone right with my right my app.

Speaker 2 18:00

Sometimes I have to go on the computer for like tax stuff or business stuff or budget stuff or whatever to help my kids do certain things, but I'm not on my laptop every day yeah so for the last, let's just call it five weeks. On my laptop every day, yeah, so for the last, let's just call it five weeks. I haven't been on Facebook as much, but when I open it up and I'm like, oh, I'll just check it, cause, honestly, I've been checking Facebook marketplace for different things.

Speaker 1 18:25

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 18:26

But then, and once I click on that little house button, that's the home that just showed you everybody's feed, which is about eight people, and then it's ads and famous people and dog videos and you know whatever reels.

Speaker 1 18:40

It's QVC. Don't click on the reel. It's QVC. Yeah, commercials with a picture of your friend's vacation every now and then. That's basically what it is. It's just ads now.

Speaker 2 18:51

I know I almost ordered some topical magnesium cream for people that are like me that can't sleep for hormonal reasons. Because I saw it on Facebook, I didn't order it.

Speaker 1 19:07

But you almost did I almost did. I went to the website and it's in your head and you will see it a bunch of other times and you will eventually convince yourself to order it.

Speaker 2 19:16

I know it's the most powerful commercial. Yeah, it reminded me a little bit of like if Truman Show was in our phone. Remember, like his wife in the Truman Show movie.

Speaker 1 19:28

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 19:29

And she was like don't you want some of this coffee? Laura Linney, I love her. But like you, want some of this coffee, laura Linney, I love her, but like you want to try this coffee because it's fantastic, and he's like what are you doing? Who are you talking to? Yeah, it's, we're just in a. Yeah, it's, it's weird.

Speaker 1 19:47

It's like, yeah, it's like I'm not alternate, yeah, reality, it's a little bit weird.

Speaker 2 19:52

Yeah, because then you look up no-transcript. Yeah, like the level of irony just spirals. It doesn't ever stop.

Speaker 1 20:15

Yeah, I don't know which is funny, because we put Well, and then people are like, I mean, I do the same thing. I'm like, oh man, I just don't have time to do this. And then, and then you find like, of course, I found this, I found this great quote.

Speaker 2 20:29

I think it was Instagram, maybe it's.

Speaker 1 20:30

Facebook I think it's Facebook, and it was like you don't need more time, you need less distractions.

Speaker 2 20:36

Amen.

Speaker 1 20:37

I found that on Facebook. I know Scrolling.

Speaker 2 20:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1 20:41

Probably the third hour.

Speaker 2 20:42

And I'm like.

Speaker 1 20:43

I'm like are you trying to convince?

Speaker 2 20:46

Yeah.

Speaker 1 20:46

But then you feel like a moron.

Speaker 2 20:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1 20:48

Because you read it on there, but it's spot on.

Speaker 2 20:51

Right.

Speaker 1 20:52

Like yeah, and then like this stuff doesn't get done.

Speaker 2 20:55

I know.

Speaker 1 20:56

Like, hey, maybe we should clean out the garage this weekend. It's like if I went on Facebook.

Speaker 2 21:03

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 21:04

It all during the week. The garage would be spotless.

Speaker 2 21:07

Right, or I would think let's go do this, or, man, I probably should go try that new, whatever yoga thing that I saw on. You know, but like even stuff like that, like certain things I use apps for, but it's not quite the same as social media. I'm going to say that, like you know, if you're checking a weather app, you're not on it for four hours.

Speaker 1 21:30

Right, If you're. Youtube is kind of like social media it's not social, but it's media.

Speaker 2 21:36

That's true? I guess it's not. That's not as enticing to me. I'm sure it is to other people.

Speaker 1 21:42

Well, it's like news apps I use like the news app. Yeah, and normally it has the main headlines at the beginning, normally yeah. I'm always amazed at how you can pull up a news app. It's like all the big stories.

Speaker 2 21:54

Yeah.

Speaker 1 21:55

And you do a half a scroll, mm-hmm. And you do a half a scroll and then it's just all.

Speaker 2 22:01

I don't know some celebrity did something silly and you're like what Right?

Speaker 1 22:08

Like that is a can of worms too, and it's like it's not even news.

Speaker 2 22:12

It's the National Enquirer.

Speaker 1 22:14

Pretty much.

Speaker 2 22:14

Just in the middle of the scroll Star Magazine InTouch.

Speaker 1 22:21

That's all it is.

Speaker 2 22:22

Yeah, I'm trying to get out of touch. Yeah, this is same stuff in people and in touch. You would save more time if you just went ahead and signed up for a subscription to both of those and just read them and then okay, done do people do?

Speaker 1 22:33

they still have that like when you go to checkout, they still have magazines. I have, I mean magazines in general. I have a family member not in my immediate family who has a subscription to people magazine and she has had it for years I don't remember the last time yeah, they have magazines well, you know how, when you go to like, you'll be at a waiting room, but everybody's got a phone everybody's got a phone and first of all, touching that magazine no, that was nasty.

Speaker 2 22:56

but I'm saying yeah, yeah. But yeah, I read the headlines. I'm like you know, william and Kate did what. I mean I don't really care, but like I'm looking at it, or ooh, that soup looks good on the cover of that magazine, real simple or whatever it is. They're still selling them and magazines are expensive. This is a topic, but yeah.

Speaker 1 23:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:19

They're like $12 or something. You're like what?

Speaker 1 23:21

Well, you probably don't have rules on magazines. No, you didn't need them. Like when your kids well, our kids, like I said, 12 and 15. Mm-hmm, Like our rule is we don't have, like we never told them it's a rule.

Speaker 2 23:34

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 23:35

But like when we eat supper or whatever, like we don't, we don't have them at the table.

Speaker 2 23:41

Yeah, amen, yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 23:42

Yeah, we don't have a whole lot of rules on them, like they have them in their room, stuff like that. But when we one rule we have is like, if we travel, yes, like if we're going to my wife's family's for like Christmas or Thanksgiving or something like that. I'm like if we're in somebody else's house and there's other people around, your phone is upstairs. Yeah, it's in a different room, it's not in your pocket.

Speaker 2 24:09

Right.

Speaker 1 24:10

Like you see these people two, three, four, whatever, how many times?

Speaker 2 24:19

a year. We're here for two or three days.

Speaker 1 24:21

Talk to somebody yeah, put your phone up. Yeah, uh, but it's hard because I'm the. I'm the worst at this like oh, man did you. Well, we talk in sports sure.

Speaker 2 24:30

Alabama, auburn sure and then somebody's like oh, that reminds me of that video and then one person pulls out their phone yeah, and you just told your kids don't you bring out your yeah, yeah, I hate it, yeah I hate when we're around like a group of friends or family or whatever.

Speaker 1 24:44

In every conversation and I do it too every conversation is oh man, did you see on facebook where? Like, did you see on social?

Speaker 2 24:55

nobody has like a like a genuine story yeah, it's the gathering spot because you know people used to talk about water cooler talk you know, like after a big sports event or the friends finale or you know whatever was on tv back, when you know it's just programming and you just watch things and at work or wherever the next day, you talk about it. Yeah, and so everybody saw the same thing. They saw it from the same source. If they even watched it oh, I didn't get to see it.

Social Media Addiction and Information Overload

Speaker 2 25:26

Tell me about it, whatever oh yeah but everybody's got a different news source for different reasons, and there's a gazillion streaming things. So, no, there's not a lot of overlap in what everybody's watching, because there's a gazillion shows, which is great, whatever, and then now you've got social media. So if it's people that you know or people that are kind of like you or your friends, you probably did all see the same thing or something kind of near that. It's like that's what you talk about, that's your water cooler. Talk now, or something big will happen, yeah like a national championship game?

Speaker 1 26:05

yeah, but people won't talk about the game they'll be like. Did you see what their quarterback posted? Right about the at the house, like before the trophy presentation said, or something like that. So now I gotta read about like what I don't know yeah girl, the wife of the coach, posted something that was mean to the other team.

Speaker 2 26:24

I don't know. It's all yin-yang. It's not even the actual content or the event.

Speaker 1 26:30

We make the actual content like sidebar.

Speaker 2 26:33

Yeah, it's just the et cetera gossip miscellaneous.

Speaker 1 26:37

Anyway, but I'm not going to play it.

Speaker 2 26:39

I don't love it.

Speaker 1 26:40

I don't love where we are. I can't stand it.

Speaker 2 26:43

Yeah, and I don't think we're going to go back from the smartphone, if you can call it that, but I don't think we're going to go back from it.

Speaker 1 26:49

No, I mean, I know one or two people with a flip phone.

Speaker 2 26:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1 26:54

But I know, man. But I will say that is one of my favorite things. I used to. I gave up Facebook. I went on social media two years ago.

Speaker 2 27:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:06

I didn't do it for a couple of years. I would glance at Robbins every now and then if I wanted to see oh, somebody went on vacation.

Speaker 2 27:14

Right, yeah, sure, I want to see their pictures, but I remember like I'll talk to.

Speaker 1 27:18

I got a few buddies who I'll call like just random times, like I'll be in the car pickup line. I'll call my buddy in Roanoke, my buddy Lon. I'll be like I don't see him anymore.

Speaker 2 27:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:28

So like we just catch up. Yeah, and he's not big on social media.

Speaker 2 27:32

Yeah, so when?

Speaker 1 27:32

I call him, I will get like oh, this happened yeah, I hear it for the first time it's new. I don't already know about it yeah that's what I hate. Is somebody going on vacation? You'll see them somewhere and they'll be like oh man, we went to blah, blah, blah, we did this and you're like I know, I saw the 72 pictures right, I read the comments under it. Yeah, I know everything you're about to tell me yeah remember when you just have a conversation like oh, you did.

Speaker 2 27:59

Yeah, and you were surprised. I know it's the best.

Speaker 1 28:03

Yeah, yeah, that's what I miss.

Speaker 2 28:05

Yeah, there's no like spontaneity or just conversation, for the true conversation sake.

Speaker 1 28:12

Yeah, or you saw somebody but you know, yeah, and they were like oh, I got to tell you I got the job, I applied for Got the job.

Speaker 2 28:18

Oh, that's awesome, right? I also saw your new haircut, so you don't need to tell me.

Speaker 1 28:23

I know what you wore to the interview.

Speaker 2 28:24

Yeah, exactly, yeah, I don't enjoy that I don't enjoy.

Speaker 1 28:29

I don't want to know everything.

Speaker 2 28:31

Right. Yeah, I don't want to know everything about all over the world either. I'm not saying stick my head in the sand and not like not care for things, because I think we should all know, you know, but I'm saying too it's too much, too much. When they started the 24-hour news cycle, that was the beginning of the end, but you know it's like, and then you got to look at it every which way. But I mean it's like sports shows.

Speaker 1 28:59

Oh yeah, ESPN is bonkers.

Speaker 2 29:00

We're talking about everything else but the show. And you've talked about this one game for weeks before you get to the game. Yeah, I don't know it's too many and everybody's got their own one. Yeah, whatever, pardon the interruption, all the things I'm not saying they're I love to watch.

Speaker 1 29:18

I love how they say pardon the interruption, yet they interrupt sports every day Just to yap.

Speaker 2 29:23

I'm like.

Speaker 1 29:24

I'd rather watch Cornhole than hear your opinion about the Philadelphia Eagles again.

Speaker 2 29:29

I do love TNT Shaq, Ernie, Kenny and Charles, though.

Speaker 1 29:33

That's a different show. Well, that's just comedy. That's comedic relief with basketball.

Speaker 2 29:37

I love it so much. It's just comedy. That's comedic relief with basketball I love it so much, but yeah smartphones man. I get it. Are you going to so okay?

Speaker 1 29:44

What's the circles?

Speaker 2 29:45

Go time. Are you going to take it off your phone?

Speaker 1 29:48

I just point my gas, I think so yeah, I've even debated which we don't Like.

Speaker 2 29:56

Hey, real quick page or whatever we don't have time to travel like hey, real quick page or whatever we're like, we don't know, I don't know, we don't have time to travel, we don't post a time.

Speaker 1 30:02

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, our three million followers will be ticked if we shut that down. But every now and then I'll post something yeah but it's that um. I don't like contributing to the problem I know so I'm kind of torn. I'm like I like kind of posting stuff every now and then because I think it's funny.

Speaker 2 30:19

Right or whatever yeah.

Speaker 1 30:22

But you know it's. You know it's an issue. You know people are addicted to Facebook or Instagram or whatever, mm hmm, yeah, I don't like. Yeah, I'm kind of torn.

Speaker 2 30:32

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:33

I want to shut it down. Sometimes I don't want to be on Facebook at all.

Speaker 2 30:36

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 30:39

Like I'm very. I have an addictive personality. I'm either a 10 or I'm zero.

Speaker 2 30:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:48

Like I don't like. Oh, just you know what. I'll just start checking it.

Speaker 2 30:51

No, yeah, it's either like yeah, no, I get it, we're going to cross this bridge or we're going to burn it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 30:59

I can't do like, we'll just walk a couple of steps.

Speaker 2 31:02

No, look out. No, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 31:05

But yeah, the whole like the too much news cycle. Well, that's why everybody's depressed and angry yeah. There's two. If you're getting every bit of news from the entire world every second you glance at at your screen.

Athletic Competition and Media Overload

Speaker 2 31:23

There could be some bad stuff on there. 24, 7, right? Yeah, because it doesn't lean to look at all the good things. Yeah, it doesn't, because that doesn't get clicks but like in the eight like when we grew up, parents went to work.

Speaker 1 31:35

Yeah, kids got on the huffy bike. Yeah, built a ramp. You jumped it whatever. Nobody knew what was going on.

Speaker 2 31:43

No, and then, they would watch Peter Jennings or Tom Brokaw at 6 while they're fixing dinner. And you still just heard it from the other room. Because you didn't care, because it was just like yeah.

Speaker 1 31:54

You saw the main stuff.

Speaker 2 31:56

Yeah.

Speaker 1 31:56

You know, they may grab a paper.

Speaker 2 31:58

Yeah.

Speaker 1 31:58

Maybe watch the local news.

Speaker 2 32:00

It's gonna yeah, right, yeah is it gonna snow?

Speaker 1 32:02

probably not. It's alabama, and then that was it yeah go roller skate in the basement, man with the dog nobody cares yeah I mean, stuff still went on, but it was nice, yeah, not to know about it. Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 32:18

I don't want to be in the dark. No, but give me an answering machine with a little baby cassette tape in it.

Speaker 1 32:24

Yeah, yeah, I would love to get every bit of news. I'm good Sunday night. Give me an hour.

Speaker 2 32:30

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 32:31

Hit the highlights and the lowlights. Yeah, and let's just knock this next week out.

Speaker 2 32:36

Yeah, do your best, be kind yeah.

Speaker 1 32:38

I don't need the Ocho with everything in the world.

Speaker 2 32:42

What is that?

Speaker 1 32:42

Sorry, espn the Ocho, it's a joke from the movie Dodgeball. Oh, because everything's on ESPN, so like they had seven or eight channels and they're like Jason Bateman was in it. Yeah, it was a tune in, you know.

Speaker 2 33:06

Right.

Speaker 1 33:07

We thought bowling was too much.

Speaker 2 33:09

Oh yeah, Fishing shows. We used to laugh at our dads watching fishing shows.

Speaker 1 33:13

Yeah, fishing is.

Speaker 2 33:15

Yeah.

Speaker 1 33:16

Yeah, I thought NASCAR and fishing was like is that a sport?

Speaker 2 33:19

Yeah, oh, they have everything.

Speaker 1 33:22

Spoiler alert neither is.

Speaker 2 33:24

Sorry, hot button issue Driving hobby, I know you sweat a lot and you can't pee when you want. Or you can Sorry, that's a hot take, but that's not a sport.

Speaker 1 33:37

It's endurance.

Speaker 2 33:39

It's a skill.

Speaker 1 33:40

It's a highly skilled endurance competition. You're not an athlete. I know you work out. I know you sweat. You're not an athlete. Yeah, if you out. I know you sweat, you're not a pure. You're not an athlete, yeah, if you're an athlete, you can Bo Jackson go out there.

Speaker 2 33:54

So F1 drivers, they're not athletes. They're not athletes, but they're skilled drivers. They're highly skilled Competitive drivers.

Speaker 1 34:01

They're highly skilled, competitive drivers who are in crazy shape and they put in the work. I don't consider them an athlete. They're in a crazy shape and they put in the work. I don't consider them an athlete. Yeah, I don't consider Tiger Woods an athlete. Even though he'd probably bench 400 pounds and do athletic stuff, I consider him the world's greatest golfer.

Speaker 2 34:20

So you don't consider golf athletics? No, golf is not.

Speaker 1 34:24

If you can have a beer gut you know what I'm saying and play barefooted and get an eagle watch. John daly highlights that dude's been doing whatever he wants the entire day. He's barefoot and he's killing it.

Speaker 2 34:40

That's not athletes, if you can get better yeah, if you can go out on the same court as LeBron.

Speaker 1 34:48

It's not an athletic competition. If it was the guy with the gut, sorry wouldn't be beating the guy that- just won an Olympic event.

Speaker 2 35:01

It's a skill Athlete is the skill we diverge from social media. That's going to be, but I'm just saying, yeah, I get you Okay.

Speaker 1 35:12

Because the better athlete does not always win. Mm-hmm, here's my thing, usain Bolt.

Speaker 2 35:19

Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 35:20

Put him on a golf course. Yeah, maybe he's good, maybe he's bad, I don't know.

Speaker 2 35:25

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 35:26

But all but I get they can do it like John Daly or whoever is out of shape. They're good at golf.

Speaker 2 35:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1 35:34

Put them in anything else.

Speaker 2 35:37

Anything else Are they quote unquote athletic Race him in a 100-yard dash. Yeah, shoot basket.

Speaker 1 35:43

Maybe they can you know.

Speaker 2 35:44

Yeah.

Speaker 1 35:45

It's just not.

Speaker 2 35:47

Tennis Pick up a racket.

Speaker 1 35:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2 35:50

Because tennis is an athlete.

Speaker 1 35:53

You can take an athlete and put them on a golf course and they can excel, tony Romo, whatever.

Speaker 2 35:59

There's some good golfers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 36:02

You take those golfers.

Speaker 2 36:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1 36:03

And you put them in the other sport. Yeah, take that guy that's great at golf, little Ricky Fowler, let him quarterback the Cowboys one day.

Speaker 2 36:13

Yeah.

Speaker 1 36:13

And get hit by a defense lineman and run for his life.

Speaker 2 36:16

Right, I'm just saying the other side of it, not that I'm being devil's advocate.

Speaker 1 36:21

No, that's fine, Maybe.

Speaker 2 36:22

I am, is somebody would say, yeah, but he's not trained in that sport, he isn't trained for that sport. Right, but he's not trained in that sport. He isn't trained for that sport, right, but he's trained for golf. But you're saying golf, you can also show up with somebody's mother-in-law and she could be 67 and maybe she's not in great cardiovascular shape. I don't know why I'm picking on somebody's mother-in-law.

Speaker 2 36:43

What I'm saying is she might kill it in golf because she just knows how to golf. Yeah, but she's not athletic in the sense of you know, could you go do this spin class for an hour or lift these weights? Is that what you're saying? I'll say this.

Speaker 1 37:05

Pick an athlete, Somebody like Bo Jackson or whatever.

Speaker 2 37:08

Yeah, yeah yeah, today's athlete, you get Saquon, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 37:10

Today's athlete, you get Saquon Barkley running back for the Eagles. Right, pick 15 things.

Speaker 2 37:17

Random stuff, bowling, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 37:19

Track and field whatever Sure.

Speaker 2 37:20

Yeah, you let him compete, yeah.

Speaker 1 37:22

And then you take some random golfer.

Speaker 2 37:25

Yeah.

Speaker 1 37:25

Or F1 driver, and he competes in the same 15. Yeah, or F1 driver, and he competes in the same 15.

Speaker 2 37:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1 37:30

Saquon Barkley's going to win more.

Speaker 2 37:32

Yeah, he is, because he's an athlete. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 37:35

That's just me. Drop the mic, I got it. The bowler may win at darts bowling and golf.

Speaker 2 37:40

Yeah, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 37:43

We should discuss it on social media.

Speaker 2 37:46

Yeah, or maybe we'll get our own show on ESPN, because they might need another one.

Speaker 1 37:51

Yeah, or.

Speaker 2 37:52

ESPN 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ESPN HD, ESPN U. The other day.

Speaker 1 37:58

I was trying to ESPN News.

Speaker 2 38:00

The other day I was U. I was trying to record a game. Sorry, I'm going into my no go. Cable thing, DVR.

Speaker 1 38:11

This episode is the equivalent of scrolling. It started with social media and we're ending up on ESPN.

Speaker 2 38:16

I'm going to shut up after this, but I was like I recorded it three times because I just wanted to record it on normal ESPN. But you know, sometimes if you record a game accidentally on the ESPN 2, the feet, what you get the audio is a little more technical, like they don't have all the bells and whistles. It's too much.

Speaker 2 38:40

It's too much to even use your Back again. Here we circle back. It's too much to even try to watch TV, Because to record a game you could. It's going to play on five channels. One might be in French, Heck, I don't know.

Speaker 1 38:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2 38:53

But then one might be the technical, like all right, we're going to break for a commercial here, da, da da, and you're like sounds kind of weird. Oh, we'll flip it over to the regular ESPN. Yeah, and there's.

Speaker 1 39:04

We were used to hearing it, oh Lord forbid, you get into ESPN Plus and then you've got to stream it. What is that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 39:14

I didn't train in TV.

Speaker 1 39:16

ESPN 3.

Speaker 2 39:17

Yeah.

Speaker 1 39:17

Then you've got the ESPN app.

Speaker 2 39:20

I don't even yeah.

Speaker 1 39:21

Yeah, I kind of miss like yeah, games not on.

Speaker 2 39:25

Yeah, you can watch it or not. Pay-per-view was the the most complicated guy and that was usually for boxing.

Speaker 1 39:34

But well, nobody's watching anything anymore because it's on. But they're just looking up from social media every now and then be like, oh, he scored exactly you're paying for seven streaming services oh, the super bowl's on, huh yeah.

Speaker 2 39:46

what did they say about the? Yeah, give me a wing.

Speaker 1 39:52

Oh, do you see where they posted?

Speaker 2 39:53

that meme about the halftime show.

Speaker 1 39:54

It's on right now the third quarter just started and there's already memes about the halftime show oh yeah, this is where we are. Buckle up, it is bonkers yeah.

Speaker 2 40:06

Oh, man, anyway Okay.

Speaker 1 40:08

And influencers are not athletes. I'm just going to throw it out there, sorry no.

Speaker 2 40:13

I agree.

Speaker 1 40:13

Well, get off your phone.

Speaker 2 40:16

Get off your phone or don't. You're probably listening to this with the podcast app.

Speaker 1 40:20

Yeah, wait a minute. Yeah, it's part of the problem.

Speaker 2 40:26

Yeah, we're doing it.

Speaker 1 40:30

Which I consider podcasting reading for people who don't like to read. It's like audible, you're nice. I mean, I'm not reading a book, you know what you are.

Speaker 2 40:36

You're the teacher in 11th grade English. That's like oh man. I hope you get her because she gives bonus work at the end of the semester. That's what you just did for people. Well listening to a podcast is the same as listening to an audible book? No, it isn't. It's not a whole book, it's people yakking.

Speaker 1 40:52

But what if a book is garbage?

Speaker 2 40:53

I mean maybe what if a?

Speaker 1 40:55

book is not good, it's garbage. And you listen to it and you're like, well, listen to a book.

Speaker 2 41:01

Yeah, first, of all I'm sorry that you had to listen to it. No but don't people listen to books? Yeah, audible, listen to it, but no, but don't people listen to books? Yeah, audible, that's not reading.

Speaker 1 41:14

It's listening. That's listening a little bit everybody's like I read a book.

Speaker 2 41:15

No, you didn't. Yeah, exactly yeah is that what? Wait a minute they're not reading this episode and, like the atlantic, I can tell you that so if you have a book report, yeah, you can just listen to the book. Yeah, it's gonna take you a while, though.

Speaker 1 41:30

Oh, it takes longer.

Speaker 2 41:31

I mean if somebody's reading it.

Speaker 1 41:32

I guess you can speed it up.

Audio Books vs. Cliff's Notes

Speaker 2 41:34

I'm a slow reader.

Speaker 1 41:35

I think if I listened to a book, I'd get the gist of it more. I'll read a page. I'll read one page and be like what just happened.

Speaker 2 41:43

I know I would have done way better in high school English if.

Speaker 1 41:47

I had an audible.

Speaker 2 41:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1 41:49

Yeah, somebody needs to call an audible. I can't, yeah. Yeah, that's what I tried to do before the book report was call an audible oh man oh man, Can we get the backup quarterback up here? Cliff's notes. I was too lazy to read them things. I didn't. I'd get one of those and read the first page and the back page. I'm like that's about right.

Speaker 2 42:11

I got the gist of it.

Speaker 1 42:12

Yeah.

Speaker 2 42:13

Yeah, do not sign up for an Audible account.

Speaker 1 42:16

I remember last thing. I remember book reports. I would always pick the book that was a movie.

Speaker 2 42:22

Of course you would. I know the movie was different, it was.

Speaker 1 42:24

But I would still just do generalizations, yeah, but still just do generalizations, yeah, yeah, you know, just like yeah. I think what he was trying to convey was oh yeah.

Speaker 2 42:32

I saw a guy get busted one time because he watched the movie the Shining instead of read it, or it was one of the Stephen Stephen King.

Speaker 1 42:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2 42:40

And he hit it wrong and like said the you know main thing. Yeah, that was the movie. The teacher waited till he sat down. She was like that was a great report for what happened in the movie.

Speaker 1 42:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2 42:53

And the whole class was like boom burn. Yeah so yeah, don't do that.

Speaker 1 43:02

Anyway, well.

Speaker 2 43:03

All right, well, after this, get off your phone and go out into nature or something, and listen to read a book.

Speaker 1 43:10

Listen to a, I mean get off your phone and go out into nature or something and listen to read a book.

Speaker 2 43:12

Listen to a, I mean read it yeah.

Speaker 1 43:15

Yeah, anyway.

Speaker 2 43:16

All right.

Speaker 1 43:17

Have a good one, thank you.