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65 (2023) ft. Jamie
Jurassic Park in Space or is it more than that? Join Dr. Benjamin and guest Jamie of Round Table MINDset as they let the Rudely Large Adam Driver to step on their throats and boom-pow some dinos. Look into what kind of bonds can be created through trauma and learn that it isn't always a bad thing. Download and Listen today!
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Hello and welcome to MovieRx, where I prescribe entertainment, one movie at a time. I'm your host, Dr Benjamin, a doctor in the same way as Dr Laura. I can scream at you all day, but in the end I'm still not a psychologist.
Speaker 2:She's a doctor, just not that kind of doctor, she's not a psychologist, though.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what she bills herself as, but that's not what kind of doctor she is and that's not what kind of doctor she is, and that's not what kind of doctor I am.
Speaker 2:I'm not a doctor in any way, but I give good advice. I could be Dr Laura.
Speaker 1:See, that's what I'm talking about. So, as you can hear, today in studio, uh, I have, uh I have a a special guest in here, the one of the two hosts of the Roundtable Mindset, my sister, my much older sister, Jamie. Welcome, Jamie.
Speaker 2:Slightly older. I mean much older, when we were like five and ten. But come on now. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course know, thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. So, uh, this movie was found after scrolling for 13 hours through netflix pages. Uh, when you're in a show hole, yeah, yeah, I found uh, jen found it actually please tell me you weren't doing 13 hours straight well, that's kind of how it feels. Like I mean trying to scroll through netflix after you're done with a show or something you're like. So what do I watch now? And then you, then you pretty much spend about the amount of time that you would watching something.
Speaker 2:I do hate just scrolling through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sucks so. So, scrolling for what felt like 13 hours through Netflix, jen found it, yes, she actually. Basically, we're talking about how awesome adam driver is, and then she was like, oh, look, adam driver. And uh, so yeah, uh, we were in a show hole.
Speaker 2:and adam driver bursts into action you do know that there is like a feature where you can type in an actor and it will give you right, right.
Speaker 1:Well, we didn't, we weren't thinking about that, we were just scrolling and then bullshitting at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's how we spend quality time together scrolling and bullshitting sounds like a lot of quality yes, yes, lots of quality time that way, um, but, uh, this, uh, this adam driver movie brings a sci-fi adventure right to your living room. We're talking about 65 today. Basic info on this movie it's a Netflix original released in 2023. Written and directed by Scott Beck and Brian Woods. Stars Adam Driver, ariana Greenblatt and Chloe Coleman. The IMDB description this is Jamie's thing. An astronaut crash, lands on a mysterious planet, only to discover he's not alone.
Speaker 2:It's like, not a description. I have figured it out, ben. I want you to know I have thought about this long and hard, especially when I listen to your episodes that I'm not in and you mention how much I'm gonna hate this description or like this description. Um, I have decided. These aren't subs like descriptions. These are like subtitles. There's the title and then the subtitle. This is like the subtitle. It's not a description okay so maybe you should start rebranding it that way. Maybe IMDb will follow suit. The IMDb subtitle to this movie is?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:It is what it is.
Speaker 1:Some of them aren't so bad, though, Like there have been a couple of them that weren't so bad.
Speaker 2:When you can get more information on the back of a book sleeve. It's not a description. Well, I guess, that's just my thought.
Speaker 1:But still, I don't know, this one, this one's not great, um, but I'm I'm pretty sure. I'm just going to make sure that all of them that we do are ones that have really bad ones, just so that I can you know, get you all riled up and I'll be talking about it for weeks.
Speaker 2:It's not hard to do.
Speaker 1:So initial movie impression cinematography surprised me, as it does all the time with Netflix originals, and when you really think about it, like how great is Netflix quality as far as their cinematography lighting and all of that stuff, like I mean they really do do a great job.
Speaker 2:Even special effects Like it. It is kind of amazing. Yeah, and that stuff has just gotten cheaper, so Netflix can do it easier.
Speaker 1:I think what it is is that I think that people are just. I think that more, more homegrown special effects people are just being given an opportunity because, like it used to be that there were. You know that there were like 150 special effects people in Hollywood and everybody had to fight for their time and there were a few innovators and things like that. But now, with computers and computer power and everything being so available and special effects programming and things like that being more available, I mean I have everything I need to do, all of the things that are in this movie.
Speaker 2:Well, let's not even I mean.
Speaker 1:If we want to go down a social rabbit hole, I suppose you could probably do a lot of that crap with ai anymore too well, yeah, I wouldn't trust it though, because then you know, I mean, if we're being honest, you might end up with a dinosaur, dinosaur with like some kind of male appendage coming out of its forehead, um, which wouldn't be good for for net.
Speaker 2:Ooh alien dinosaur with a mega hat.
Speaker 1:Alien dinosaur with a Make America Great Again hat.
Speaker 2:Why not?
Speaker 1:We already had one. I'm just. I'm just woo. That's encroaching on political stuff here.
Speaker 2:I can't help it.
Speaker 1:It's kind of been a political week for me, so yeah yeah, well, I mean, that is kind of kind of your skis when it comes to podcasting.
Speaker 1:So well, yeah um, now let's see here, uh, I mean and again back to the, you know the thing that we were talking about, the, the kind of the initial impression with this, the lighting and all that stuff, I mean it's, it's great because Netflix is doing a really great job and killing it in that way, um, but uh, but I mean what, what I think was really cool about this movie for me was that the acting was shouldered by two performers it was Mills and Koa and and they, they really carried the brunt of the uh, of the acting in this movie and I think they did fantastic. If I'm going to be honest, the first time I watched it it was just kind of a popcorn movie, what dad calls a popcorn movie, just a movie that you sit down and eat popcorn and watch. Yeah, when you're done, you're done. Um, but uh, but I don't know there's there's a little bit more to it, I guess. Um, for me anyway, um, what was, what was kind of your general feeling on on the technical aspects of this, of this movie?
Speaker 2:Well, you know it did, so I can't remember what that movie. What was that movie? We did with the caller? It wasake gyllenhaal uh the guilty the guilty. It kind of had an air of that for me um just because of the it's super limited cast. Um, you know the focus on the two characters for the bulk of the movie and I guess seeing that it was released in 2023 makes me wonder was this filmed?
Speaker 1:it was filmed in 2020 and 2021.
Speaker 2:Okay, seriously, like I, I I called that cause I was like I bet that just had such a similar feel, um, I mean, whole different movie, whole different scenario and everything but it. It had that very. I think that made made it feel more up close and personal, like in your face, um, you know, I, I don't know, don't know that I the only word I can think of to describe it was intimate, like I just felt like it was right there. But otherwise I think, yeah, netflix has done a pretty incredible job for me. I don't know if this is one I would watch a second time, like it was good. It was good. That popcorn, popcorn movie kind of described it for me. There was good stuff and there's. You know it's not like you can't, you can't take the lessons out, but but yeah, it was, it was good.
Speaker 1:Usually, usually right after the uh, the initial stuff, I jump into characters and I mean normally like what I've been doing is I've been saying you know, I've, I've been doing the whole, you know, tell me about one of your favorites.
Speaker 2:But there isn't really a whole lot, uh, to choose from as far as favorites go.
Speaker 1:So we'll make this short and sweet, so we'll just kind of we'll just talk about, uh, uh, the ones that that uh just kind of pop out right away, and that's first off. Mills, tell me, tell me what you think about Mills.
Speaker 2:Well, I Mills, um, I think the entire movie I never saw him as anything other than the dad wanting to get home. You know what I mean? Right, that was his character for me. I'm sure he's somewhat of a scientist and an explorer and an astro. I mean, he's got some, obviously, skill and and education and talent to be able to do what he's doing. But, um, but all of that was secondary, it was like it was like dad trying to get home.
Speaker 1:Right, right from the get go it was like I mean he's, he's out on this big, long three year mission. He's taken away from his family for three years and like it to to an adult. That that's like it's whatever. Um, but I mean, when you think about that from a kid's perspective, that's a 15 year old to a graduate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, that is a seven year old to a 10 year old, you know I mean it's like a middle school to a high schooler.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, it's it's crazy yeah, it's quite a big chunk of a kid's life, uh for a dad to be gone and he's not happy about it, but he is happy that what he's doing is is going to do good things for for his family, and and that is that is what is what he's about for a large portion of the movie. I think that Koa is is kind of in a similar thing with, like what you were talking about, where she's just kind of out looking for her family, but very, very literally, like I mean, she, just she she is stuck in this place with a man that she doesn't understand what he's saying. Um, he doesn't, he doesn't have any ability to convey to her exactly what's going on, and the only way that he does is not honest. He, he blatantly lies to her to get her to go with him.
Speaker 2:well, thankfully she didn't understand him really so what did you think of ko?
Speaker 2:Well, and we chatted a little bit before this. I had a little bit of misunderstanding even about her origin, like I thought she had been on the planet so the whole time. I'm like, why is no one talking about where the heck this kid came from, you know? So I don't know if I just was answering a text during that first part of the movie or what, but I am. Yeah, I kind of miss that. So think, what I take away, I guess with her was so much that it was like it was like the hope of her family being there is what kept her going, and I wonder I wonder how hard she would have fought through some of the things that she fought through had she not, had she not had that hope at the end. You know what I mean, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, well, and probably down here in the talking points a little bit. I mean how much, how much of her getting there with with that, you know, that found family aspect, um in mills, um, you know, because, like I don't know, they they just had a really a really great like growing story through this whole thing. It was just kind of interesting.
Speaker 2:So, getting into the points of interest, before we go on, though, I feel like there's one other character that plays a big part in the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. And that was Mills' daughter.
Speaker 1:Naveen.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because she. I think what's so interesting about this and I don't know if those were like recorded transmissions along the way but not only did Mills connect with that character obviously it's his daughter but what I thought was really interesting in the movie was how Koa also connected with her, like she was super interested in her and even at the end she was part of saving them. You know what I mean? Oh, I mean, and she was kind of a part of saving them. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean, and and she was kind of a part of saving mills all throughout the movie. No, I mean, he crash lands on this crazy ass planet. I mean there's nothing good is going to happen when, when they come and pick him up, he's, he is going to be blamed for everything. You know, the, the asteroids and and everybody dying except for him. Like, I mean, that's not going to feel good for anybody, and he was, he was really ready to just be done with it. Uh, and then he thinks about his, then he thinks about Naveen, right, and and he puts he puts the gun down.
Speaker 1:She would, she had played a part, a part in saving Mills all throughout the movie, and I don't know, it almost felt like Koa had a lot of, she had a lot of focus on Naveen too, like, almost like she was trying to like I think that she knew that it was his daughter, but I think that she was trying to figure out why, uh, why all of these things were so important and I don't know, like maybe maybe she just saw her as as a potential friend or something like I don't know, kids, kids do tend to gravitate to each other and things like that. But your first point of interest was Jurassic Park in space.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:There's no fences, Jamie.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter, it was Jurassic Park in space.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:All of those scenes of like. I mean even the dinosaurs looked like dinosaurs and they were aliens of some kind.
Speaker 1:But no, they weren't. They were dinosaurs. Okay, so this is supposed to. I think you might've missed the premise here.
Speaker 2:It's very possible. Like I said, I was responding to a text or something. I missed something.
Speaker 1:This is Earth. These people are from far, far, far away. This is Earth, and they crash landed on Earth 65 million years ago, when dinosaurs were there. Yes, so.
Speaker 2:How did I miss that? Where was that in the movie?
Speaker 1:Well, that's what the 65 is.
Speaker 2:I literally I was going to ask you what the hell is the title mean? Like I didn't even understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah 65 million years ago was was when, when dinosaurs were, were a thing, that's. I mean, that's just the general number, that's given it there's a huge span, but generally they say 65 million years ago. That would also be why the little girl wasn't from the planet. She was in a pod, because there were two pods that were missing and he found one and it had Koa in it, and so he took it back and opened it up and checked on her, and then she and then he left and then she followed him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I miss that somehow Somehow along the way, and maybe it's because I missed. Did I miss a title where it like said this is Earth? I don't even know, that's crazy. Were they going? They weren't going to Earth, though. They were on their way somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were going to another colony somewhere.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:But they ran through an asteroid belt and beat themselves up and ended up having to crash land.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Okay, okay, I think I just had this little light bulb moment.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:The asteroid that came at the very end was the asteroid that destroyed all the dinosaurs. Yeah, okay, see, I missed a whole bunch of this movie. Yeah, to be fair, this is not whole bunch of this movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To be fair, this is not my type of movie Like this is not a movie. I would naturally pick, so I was no.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to get up on my mic if I'm here for a second and talk about this. So I knew Stop it. I'm up on my mic, Jamie. This is when I get up on my micie. This is this is when I get up on my mic this is when we're like telling secrets hey is this secret? So the reason I picked this was because I knew that there was no other way you'd watch it unless I did you're so right.
Speaker 2:What a pass right by it but it was a good movie. Well, okay, so this is so okay. So it wasn't Jurassic Park in space, it was Jurassic Park like the Jurassic period.
Speaker 1:Right, Actually probably closer to Cretaceous, but okay.
Speaker 2:Well, no, it's spirit is.
Speaker 1:there is what I'm talking about Okay, so so yeah, there was this, there was such a good episode for me. I've learned so much, um so, so yeah you got your Jurassic park in space talking point you also. You also put in a lot of the stuff in here that, uh, I'm guessing you got beaten up by jump scares quite a bit.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. Well, that and the next one, this nonstop action. I was exhausted by the time I finished watching this movie and I hate that kind of movie. Like I need, I need some ebb and flow, I need some peaks and valleys. And this was like from the word go. I you know, you had the nice touching 30 seconds in the very beginning, and then we're in space and we're being beat up by asteroids, and now we have alien dinosaurs chasing us down, but it's actually just dinosaurs, so yeah but what about?
Speaker 1:what about the? Uh? You know what about the berries?
Speaker 2:I don't. You're the second person that says what about the berries? I don't even know, like Jen was like, what about the berries? I don't know Whatever Well it's funny. Yeah, but you're also hearing dinosaurs in the background who were going to eat them at any second.
Speaker 1:There was no rest. Well, I mean, there was, there was eventually.
Speaker 2:I guess like hyper vigilant the entire movie I was, I was, I was having a trauma trigger or something, I don't know, but it was definitely. It was fight or flight for me. The whole movie. It was terrible, right.
Speaker 1:So well and I don't know. I guess I felt like that there that they had taken, taken a couple of breaks every now and again to kind of help out with that a little bit, and a lot of that, I think, was where a lot of the development of their relationship kind of came in. Yeah, I mean, with the berries thing, you know, don't eat, do not eat. You know you put those in your mouth, they go down to your stomach and and then how much?
Speaker 2:can I just tell you, do you know how much money we would save on health care if we had a little thing that we could stick something into and say, yes, this is okay for you to eat, this is not okay, yeah, everything, everything that you buy at a damn grocery store would tell you no, though the thing is is that we wouldn't have to recall lettuce all the time oh, that's, very true like oh, salmonella, never mind I'll take the next one, thank you fair, I'll pass on the romaine.
Speaker 2:Give me the iceberg, it's okay you know what have you noticed?
Speaker 1:maybe I'm the only one that's noticed, but have you noticed that, like lettuce, like iceberg lettuce and all of that, they're just, it's not green anymore. There's no green lettuce anymore. Like everywhere you go, it's all, it's almost. Like everywhere you go, everything that you get for lettuce is heart lettuce.
Speaker 2:You just need to get the oh gosh. What is it? Well, there's kale, kale's super green.
Speaker 1:Ugh gross. There's also you, millennial.
Speaker 2:I only like it in smoothies.
Speaker 1:Gross.
Speaker 2:No, there's like butter. What is it? Butter, not squash butter, lettuce butter? I don't remember. But no, you get it. It comes in a plastic package at our grocery store.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's like perfect sandwich lettuce, it's like picture perfect sandwich lettuce.
Speaker 1:It's waving on the leaves Well, and I don't use it for sandwiches, but I like salads and stuff. I like to get spring mix. It's got a little bit of arugula in it and a little bit of this. A little bit of that it's. I don't know. It's pretty good stuff.
Speaker 2:I ain't no rabbit, I'm just joking. I like spring mix. It's fine, I'm just saying. You don't often hear that they recall iceberg for salmonella.
Speaker 1:Usually it's romaine oh, I guess, I guess I don't pay enough attention to that yeah, plus, if you think about you know what's interesting.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is so off topic, it's not even funny. But I was reading somewhere that, like in the 50s and 60s, the only lettuce you could get was iceberg. Like they really didn't have a variety of lettuces at the grocery store like they do now right I thought that was interesting and I was thinking back to when we were kids and it was probably really just iceberg and mixed like chopped lettuce, the pre-cut lettuce, and maybe romaine.
Speaker 2:Maybe you could get romaine back then yeah, I don't know of course you know people could also walk around the grocery store smoking and had ashtrays on the end of the aisles Right. I mean it's a whole different lifetime ago.
Speaker 1:God, I remember. Do you also remember ashtrays at the ends, by the end caps at Walmart? I don't.
Speaker 2:No, Ben, that might be before my time.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't, Even though.
Speaker 2:I'm older than you, no.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that. That was when in uh, when walmart is was in the building that uh, uh, that planet fitness is in gosh. That wasn't there for very long after we moved here, though, no, but I do remember there being ashtrays on the end caps back in the day. Yeah, those were the days those were the days when smokers had, you know, everything but one part of a plane and half the restaurant, one part of a plane.
Speaker 2:Oh man, so funny. Anyway, berries can be a machine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know, I mean we've got the berries and and, uh, there was the. There was also their stop for water, uh, when they were, when they were next to the next to the river, and he, you know, told her hey, go up and get it from the flat part and everything. I mean they, they, they took little timeouts every now and again, just, and it seemed like it was just for character development between the two.
Speaker 2:They did. The only thing is that they also ruined that, because I think one of the first ones he was just like moving himself along, having a gay old time and then all of a sudden here comes a dinosaur trying to eat his face, and so then every time after that you're just waiting for it, like even during those quiet moments you're just like it's coming.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about when he was looking over the ledge of the cliff? Yeah, oh, look at the majesty.
Speaker 2:And now look at the teeth in my face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was fantastically. It was so good that was the first one.
Speaker 2:It was the first one.
Speaker 1:It was awesome.
Speaker 2:I was suspicious after that, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know I I liked the little, the little bits of of stopping they did for for development. Some of the things when they'd like laugh at each other and things like that, like him slapping the bug and getting his hands stuck in on the tree bark and oh what was she?
Speaker 2:what was she saying?
Speaker 1:like he, he said something and she kept repeating it, but I can't remember what it was uh, well, I I know that one of the things that he said that she kept repeating was shit I think that was after that like smack ah, shit yeah, good, good stuff and and I mean well, and that's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Like is, is those kinds of things are, are what's going to catch a kid's attention first? I mean, she doesn't know that it's a swear word, she doesn't know that that's you know whatever. But but it's an easy. It's an easy to to repeat word and she knew the kind of situation where it was acceptable to say it.
Speaker 2:And so of course she's going to use it. Yeah, she could observe that Our little kids that, hear that say it over everything, like give me more broccoli.
Speaker 1:Oh God, yeah, that's. That doesn't happen now. So I don't know, did. Did you kind of see this a little bit Like I did? Their, their relationship kind of started almost like a big brother, little sister type. I mean he was giving her hell a lot of the time, you know, like I mean he was snarky and sarcastic and just kind of being a shithead and she was kind of the victim to it.
Speaker 2:I saw that you had said that and I guess I didn't get the same impression. I guess, I think I felt more like it was almost felt like in the beginning she was an obligation, like she was part of his duty. You know what I mean, right? You?
Speaker 1:know, oh crap here's a.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, Right, you know? Oh crap, here's a kid and now I have to. Now I have to save her. Like I could give up, but now I have to save her. Well, I think.
Speaker 1:I think that that's how it started in the very, very beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But as they go, I really did, as awful as it is, I think, where where it started to turn a little bit was when he lied to her there her family was on top of the mountain. That was about when I had noticed that it stopped being, that it started to change from being shit Now I have to take care of this small person that is really a liability to survival into like. Then it started to slowly turn into you know big brother type hazing. You know like not not like not super dangerous or anything but like. I mean, I guess for some people that would also kind of be like you know how their dads were. If you, if you grew up with a young dad, be like you know how their dads were. If you, if you grew up with a young dad, then you know like young dads are, are kind of notoriously like big brothers to their, to their kids.
Speaker 2:Right, I have nothing to say about that. Just, we're just going to leave that there, hey Jamie.
Speaker 1:what does a horse say?
Speaker 2:Oh Jamie, what does a horse say? All I remember is a cow says meow.
Speaker 1:Oh cow says meow Cow says meow. Yeah, yeah, as a PSA, if you're a dad and your baby mama spends all day Baby mama Well, not everybody's married all the time now, but if you're a dad and your baby mama spends all day teaching your kid animal noises and things like that, don't contradict them as soon as they leave and teach them that they were all wrong that's going to bring you some bad juju man. It can end badly.
Speaker 2:Not that I remember any of that. I was young enough it didn't scar me for life, so it's okay.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I mean, it's almost like it starts like a big brother, little sister type relationship, or at least I felt like it did. But then it did kind of change a little bit. Then the obligation changed Like ah, now I have to take care of this person, became I have to take care of this person. I mean is, is that kind of what you, what you saw?
Speaker 2:Yes, I also saw. I also saw it shift where she needed to take care of him too, and and that was I mean, that was at the quicksand, you know what I mean like she.
Speaker 1:She heard him screaming and she went for him and, knowing even that she had just gotten out of her own, almost had my face eaten off scenario well and honestly, I think it might have even started a little bit before that oh, it could be that was the moment where I felt like she was the hero, like that was her hero moment, that was that was when, when it was really clear, yeah, but like even in, even in the caves she had taken, she had gone to a point where she was like, no, I can get through there yeah, like yeah, let me go, let me go and get out, yeah, and and you know like he didn't want to give her the lead, of course, because his job is to go in first and get bit, his face eaten off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so so in in now it's like. Now it gets to a point where they're, where they're almost equals, you know, like they, they have a more mutual respect at that point.
Speaker 2:I do have to say this is, this is earth now. So I have a whole different. I have a whole different, shifted my entire perspective on this movie, this movie. But I I did love the quicksand element. I was super glad it was there, just because I it was. A few years ago I I saw a meme that was like quicksand is not near the problem, I thought it would be.
Speaker 1:When I was when I was a kid, yeah yeah, because you see this stuff in movies.
Speaker 2:It's the scariest crap ever and I remember going to the beach once in a while because you know the town we lived in had this beautiful sandy beach and I was always afraid I was going to step in a spot that was going to be quicksand right, like because it's got to be everywhere it's in, like every movie, right okay, and and now I feel like I almost have to give another PSA, wait is this mic time.
Speaker 1:No, no, this isn't getting up on my mic. It's getting up on my mic is what it's called. So this isn't getting up on my mic. This is another PSA. For all the people out there that are worried about quicksand, don't worry about quicksand. Don't worry about quicksand because if it's quicksand, your body's buoyancy will only allow you to sink to about your armpits and then after that, you're done sinking what yes, physics, keep you from from drowning in quicksand is this like the mandela effect? No, I don't know because I'm.
Speaker 2:I was convinced my entire life that quicksand would swallow me. I would die.
Speaker 1:Well, that's because that's because it wouldn't be interesting if, in every movie that it was ever in, people just stopped at their armpits and were like, hey, hey, yeah, could, could you, could you grab a rope, you know, maybe a long stick? Yeah, I mean, then it wouldn't be quite so that's fantastic, terrifying and things like that.
Speaker 2:So although I mean there are, there are other substances that are like quicksand tar pits are different, um not just that and sinkholes are different and things like that corn bins oh yeah, corn yeah I mean, I think that happened around here not too terribly long ago that someone like drowned in a corn bin because they got stuck in there and suffocated I thought it was like a weekly occurrence here.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean we're in Nebraska, jamie.
Speaker 2:It's not Iowa.
Speaker 1:Well, that's that's true, Uh, so, so yeah, quicksand, quicksand was, was uh a good point in this movie, because that was when she, when she, fully established herself as somebody who can save him too well, and she, like, I mean she, owned that.
Speaker 2:That was just she beat the quicksand.
Speaker 1:It was awesome yeah, um well, and and I mean that, and that wasn't the last time either like, oh man yeah, so anyway, uh, you know the you also had in here here the other talking point about the guy left at the ship. There wasn't a guy left at the ship.
Speaker 2:I took it out then because I was embarrassed after you pointed it out.
Speaker 1:Oh, OK, ok. So yeah, there wasn't a guy left at the ship. The whole, now the whole movie, thank God for never ending bullets. And then at the end, oh shit, no bullets.
Speaker 2:Sorry, the entire movie I was thinking, oh my God, thank God his gun doesn't need bullets and it's just always going to shoot. He's and they only need one because it's always going to shoot. And then at the end he was like the big mama was there to get them, and it's like well, except that you'll remember he didn't.
Speaker 1:It wasn't that he was out of bullets, it was just that he needed to reset the gun which is, which is cool.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying the entire time I'm like, oh, he's gonna be fine, he's got never ending a never-ending supply of electrode shooting out star wars-esque bullets now, who'd have thought that 65 million years ago that Microsoft was the one that made the fucking technology for guns?
Speaker 1:Did you try turning it off and turning it back on again?
Speaker 2:Thank you, spectrum yes.
Speaker 1:I'll reset my router again. Charter Sphinctrum.
Speaker 2:It's terrible, ben. No endorsement for you from them, oh god no no, I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't use their internet to make this podcast, but yeah, so I mean yeah, no bullets.
Speaker 2:It was because he had to reset his gun well, and then seriously like the whole movie pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, and then the end, it click, click, click can I?
Speaker 1:can I just say, that want one I?
Speaker 2:want one of those guns?
Speaker 1:Of course you do. Wow, wow, I mean, it just sounds cool when it shoots.
Speaker 2:That was the coolest I actually. I really thought the technology, the ideas around the technology was pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Like the biofoam idea. How like? I mean, because even in the Martian, right In the Martian, he goes and he has a cut and so he has to go and pull the stuff out and then he has to staple himself shut and all of that. But in this one he has a cut and he's bleeding profusely. So then he just takes this thing and shoots himself with this freezing biofoam stuff and then it just seals it up for him. Yeah, I mean, the only reason I call it biofoam stuff and then it just seals it up for him. Yeah, uh, I mean, the only reason I call it biofoam is because that's also from a series of books that I read. And, uh, they call it that in halo, where they just fill the area with a foam that kind of sterilizes it and seals it or whatever. But but still, like I mean, the biofoam idea was really awesome.
Speaker 2:I loved the scanner, things Like where, oh, and at the very end, when the escape pod, the escape ship or whatever was flipped over, and it was like initializing repair sequence and I was like why can't my Kia have that Right? Let's get on the stickhtick here. People Like I understand mine.
Speaker 1:Mine's a Ford. I get why that doesn't have its own repair itself thing, but I mean, come on.
Speaker 2:Come on, Kia.
Speaker 1:That scanner thing that he had. I really loved that one part in the movie when they were in the caves and he got knocked over by that dinosaur and he dropped it and they were showing the fight from the scanner yeah that was in the darkness. You couldn't see what was going on because it was in the dark, but you could see it because of the scanner I thought, for sure he was gonna die.
Speaker 2:That was so fucking creative, like jen and I were both like that is badass like whoever came up with that idea was super cool, like watching the reflection in the in the water instead of seeing what's actually. Yeah, it was pretty cool yeah, who directed it again?
Speaker 1:uh, it was a a couple of guys. It was, um, uh, scott beck and brian woods huh, yeah, uh, they good job both. They both wrote and directed it. So now the you've got another talking point, we'll we'll jump over to one of mine, um well, that's kind of.
Speaker 1:That's probably really my takeaway, so it's so so, like all the all the little things that that keep coming up with, these two like and not even, not even the life threatening ones, like, like I said earlier, the bugs and stuff like that. Um, he starts doing these things that like I don't know like he, he just starts showing his affection in in very uh, like I don't know strange ways, where he's like he gets a bunch of like goop and stuff on his on his hands and then he like chases after her with it. You know stuff like that, I don't know it. Just, it really showed a lot of the kind of a lot of the turning points, uh, in in all of that I think. I think really the big, the big emotional thing was when they got, when they got to the mountain and her family wasn't there. How did you feel in that moment?
Speaker 2:It's one of those things and, quite frankly, I think, at this point, just as they're ready to leave, right, just as they're ready to get out of there, out of there one of those things where I think, as as a parent, I can tell you that there are times where I I felt like felt like I had to keep the truth away from my kids, or I felt like you know what I mean, like to get there's times where we can't, we can't disclose everything to our kids, we can't be super transparent and and at this point, especially as they were leaving, they saw obviously koa was not going to replace his daughter who who died, but I I saw that there was enough care for her that maybe she could stay with him and his wife.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean like right that she could have a home there because her parents were gone, and and that's almost that's what it brought up for me was just those times where I couldn't be completely transparent with my kids for whatever reason, Because it wasn't appropriate or because it wasn't it wouldn't be helpful for them. It's like telling the white lie to get if she had broken down in the beginning when they're 15 meters from the escape vehicle.
Speaker 1:They wouldn't have gotten anywhere.
Speaker 2:How would he have gotten her there, she? Would have had no reason to keep going and and she, she wouldn't have had a reason to keep trying. And so I thought that that was, you know, and the dichotomy between that for her, and almost wondering, if that's a little bit of where he was at, because his, his daughter, had passed away. And so was that like, was that him putting that forefront for him too? Like I still need, I need to get home. She would want me to come home. You know what I mean right so what?
Speaker 2:what kind of it made me wonder what kind of things he was telling himself to keep going when the reason for the trip was gone.
Speaker 1:Right. Some of that is that I don't I don't know if I want to, I don't know if I want to really say that it's, it's toxic, but but something that is that is really um, that is really kind of a, a, a very much a man's thing is um. If I'm given the care of somebody and their well-being is my responsibility, even when you have no other reason to do so, you still have a responsibility and feel a need to fulfill it. The fact that she was still alive was more than enough to keep him going, maybe not happy, because you know he has all these other reasons that he doesn't want to keep going at all, but gave him this, gave him a job to do.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's something that we've talked about, you know, in in other episodes, where you know if there's a job to do, then it's. It's real easy to put your to put your emotions and stuff like that aside so that you can do the job. Um, but uh, but yeah, I think that that probably played a big part of of his um continuing on with. It was that I I have this person that I'm responsible for and I'm going to make sure that they, that they get to a safe place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But by the time it got to that point, it that had changed. Uh, it wasn't. It wasn't about the job anymore, it wasn't about the responsibility or the obligation, it was about everything had just kind of changed from being, uh being, because it was what he was supposed to do, uh to being what he wanted to do.
Speaker 2:Um, the other thing that I thought of. You know, just to go back to my absolute favorite show of all time, there was an episode of Grey's Anatomy, Um, when one of the characters told the mom that she had found her son in order to get her to go get surgery.
Speaker 2:Right, so, yep, he's great, he's okay, he's in the waiting room, he's waiting for you. You need to go get your surgery. Because she was refusing to go get surgery until he was found. And Dr Bailey says do you really think that that's a good idea? And he said if my life saves her life, then yeah, I'm okay with that. And you know, I think that's a prime example of one of those spaces where you know I'm I'm a rule follower, I'm going to follow the rules and sometimes, maybe a lie is the thing that you need to do to do the best, the most good well, I mean, I'm sorry, sometimes people don't understand the reason for hurt until it happens and then everything's passed.
Speaker 1:But I mean the hurt of being lied to is it's, it's very real and not to minimize it or anything but sucks to your asthma, you know if, if, if somebody lies to you, uh, and hurts your feelings by lying to you, and it saves your life, I'm, I life, I think that I think that that's kind of, I think that that's kind of okay, your feelings versus your life thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Just apologize a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like well and that's the thing where the intention, intention is important. I think, yeah, like I didn't do this to hurt you. I didn't do this to intention.
Speaker 1:Intention is important. I think, yeah, like I, I didn't do this to hurt you, I didn't do this to make you feel bad. I did this. I did this to help because, because you wouldn't have gotten your ass up here to the top of this frigging mountain Right If you'd have known so, no, I, I don't know. I I really liked this movie. Movie, it was fun, um, it was just, it was different enough in a way that the the absurdity of Adam driver being in, you know, on earth 65 million years ago, fighting, uh, dinosaurs with a, with an energy weapon, and, you know, trying to evade a total annihilation from a cataclysm of an asteroid, it seems like just an out-of-reality sort of an idea. Who would ever think of that?
Speaker 2:I literally have such a different opinion about the movie. Just knowing it was 65 million years ago on earth, I, I, literally I was. I told you this morning. I'm like it was okay, ben, I mean, it's a survival movie, it's a space survival movie. Yay, we've done that.
Speaker 1:Before you know what I mean right, except that it's not. It's not alien, you know it's not. It's not any of those things, it's.
Speaker 1:This is no, the aliens came here right, uh well in million years ago, and that's the other thing that I was kind of talking with jen about. Is that like? Another implication is is that because he was there and he got injured and bled everywhere, that could have been what seeded earth with human dna? Dun, dun, dun yeah, so is he human, he looks human he's humanoid, but that doesn't make him human yeah, well, I mean, if he looked a lot like we do and he bled like we do oh, but oxygen I mean.
Speaker 2:doesn't the blood run blue in the in our veins and then it turns red when it hits the oxygen, or something I? Mean maybe it's something like that.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's where we got the idea. It's people misreading the the, the charts.
Speaker 2:Well, it's because my vessels look blue. Okay, it's blue, see, anyway, okay, good movie.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, anyway, okay good movie, well, and now I want to go back and re-watch it because I feel like I missed something. Oh, you were never going to watch it again.
Speaker 2:I was never gonna watch it again. I was never gonna watch it again because I mean it was just another alien scared movie no, it's not.
Speaker 1:It's a good movie. Um, did that? Did that change your active ingredient at all, or is that, or uh?
Speaker 2:you know the only thing I kept for me at the end, what I kept thinking as they were floating off and we were watching earth 65 million years ago be destroyed sorry, still mind blown I kept thinking like I hope their technology, I hope their mental health services match their technology, because I mean, if I looked at the girl in the chair next to mills it was holy crap. That poor kid has got some serious childhood trauma now yeah, yeah actual ptsd?
Speaker 2:do they understand emdr? Are they going to be able? You know what I mean. Like I was just really hopeful that she could get some serious services and then I kept thinking, like those two have a trauma bond. Now, you know and trauma bond sometimes is like a terrible, like it has a terrible connotation to it in some, in some ways, in some situations, but those two came together and survived something Because of it, yeah, taking her home and them caring for her and giving her a place to call home, and and so that was kind of for me the active ingredient was imagining what was after, like what comes next and, and you know, thinking about how the trauma wasn't just on the planet, someone that's going to be getting through what they went through, and then you know what, what the future could look like for the, for them as a family, which was kind of a beautiful thing for me.
Speaker 1:Right Now for for me, uh, for me, the active ingredient was a little bit more. Uh, you actually kind of jumped the gun on me on it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, you, you brought it up super, super early where how he, how he, was rescuing her in this movie. The whole premise of the movie is that he is rescuing this little girl and as their story continues, it becomes the other way around. Reason why that's why that's kind of important for me is because sometimes, sometimes, you need to really evaluate what it is that makes you so attached. Are you, are you there saving that person, or are you there because they save you?
Speaker 2:yeah, who's saving who?
Speaker 1:um, you know, uh, and and I mean I know I know that that can kind of go in a little bit to the whole um, you know, like like a codependency talk and and things like that but but at the same time it's also a very important thing that, uh, that that in those kind of like those kinds of relationships that you do allow yourself to be rescued once in a while, um, um, that you don't always have to be the the hero yeah, um, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:You know, there was one other thing that I took out of this huh, never, ever, ever, buy a futuristic, 65 million year old space pew, pew from Ford.
Speaker 1:From Ford.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You mean from Microsoft, microsoft or?
Speaker 2:Microsoft. Probably, either one is a bad idea.
Speaker 1:Get up and try to shoot a dinosaur and click, click, click.
Speaker 2:Ah shit, doo, doo, doo, doo the driver and the dinosaur stop and look at each other when it goes.
Speaker 1:The dinosaur. Oh yeah, we'll give it a second. How do I not have a career?
Speaker 2:in making movies. I'm just saying right. I could really add to this.
Speaker 1:Did you, did you ever see that video of the guy that was? That was like on a roller coaster and he'd, he'd get up there and then he'd wake up and faint, and then he'd wake up again and then he'd faint, and then he'd wake up again and it was the. It was the windows noises over and over and over again. All right, go ahead and go ahead and plug your stuff, sister.
Speaker 2:Ooh, well, I'm not sure when this is this episode is going to release, but we just started season two of our podcast and so, um, the episode just dropped and it is kind of a. It's kind of a fun one. We had a conversation with a presidential candidate the libertarian presidential candidate for uh 2024. So it was a really cool conversation and I'm excited to share it. So got a lot of good episodes coming release on the second and fourth Tuesdays in the month, and you can find us on Facebook, twitter, no, yes, facebook, the app formerly known as Twitter, tiktok Instagram. We're on the gram. So, yeah, check us out. It's way fun. Oh, and we have a Patreon. It's way fun.
Speaker 1:Awesome yeah. So yeah, thanks for being on, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:This is way fun. We should do it again maybe.
Speaker 1:Oh, probably.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know it's a hard ask, but maybe I could be a repeat guest or something. Yeah, it's not like you've been on a whole lot or anything.
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