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Halloween (1978) ft. Chef of x86ed
Representing the Slasher films in the October line-up, a good start might just be Halloween (1978). Not only does the x86ed Chef know how to make a beef wellington, he's also a bit of a horror film nerd! Chef joins Dr. Benjamin in exploring even more of the horror genre as they examine Jamie Lee Curtis' breakout role!
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Hello and welcome to MovieRx Recreational Use, where we set healing aside and watch just to feel good. I'm a prescribing doctor, Dr Benjamin, and joining me today is the x86 chef. Welcome, chef.
Speaker 2:Hey, what's up? How's it going?
Speaker 1:is the x86 chef. Welcome, chef. Hey, what's up, how's it going good? Uh, so it's october and I think october is is uh, a good time of year because it starts to cool off a little bit, because fuck heat I am so done with with the hot weather, uh and uh, we start to get the change in the leaves and all that stuff, stuff, and we get ready for crotch goblins to start putting on costumes and go trick or treating, cause it's the spooky season. So this month I'm doing scary movies, alien movies, spooky movies, that kind of stuff. Uh, and and uh, one of the people I thought of that would be really good for that is is a chef, because I know you're you're kind of a kind of a, a horror flick buff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I don't know if it came, if it came from my birthday being close to Halloween, being on the 28th, but there's just something about people like demons haunting teenagers in their nightmares yeah, and nightmare and Elm street and stuff like that no. But like slasher fic, no. But to be real, there is nothing better than horror movies because it allows you to express like a wide range of ideas and topics while also kind of muddling it up within the horror and like, if you can get past the emotional part of it, there's like a lot of underlying messages are absolutely fantastic and I love it.
Speaker 1:Now I think you're making fun of me. See and it's funny because, like so, this whole time I haven't really done a whole lot of horror movies or anything and I'm not really much into horror movies, and it's mostly because for me I don't I don't get a lot out of horror flicks.
Speaker 2:To be fair, there are a lot of really bad ones. So there are, you know, like if, if you take the slasher genre, there are a lot of good, very good starts. You know the, the, the birth of Jason Voorhees, and the river or the lake, you know, and mother and like that whole car psycho or stuff like that. But then you take Jason and you just beat him to death with money until he turns into Jason X in space. Space. You know, it was still a really great concept when it started, you know I'm sure.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't know, it's I.
Speaker 2:I don't really see a whole lot of medicine in in slasher films or anything, but at the same time, like that's just me slasher films or anything but at the same time, like that's just me, like you know what have me on, have me on again and I will can, I will convince you 100 that you can, because we're gonna do babadook, babadook, we're gonna do babadook okay, we'll, we'll do, we'll discuss if I don't convince you after that, then Okay, I guess I just I like that that's a good challenge.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, well, and I guess, at least today, I mean, with it being a recreational use, we're just going to kind of talk about a fun movie which I don't know. This, this one, I mean this is kind of the original, isn't it like? Because I mean as far as like the slash movies go, you know, like the nightmare on elm street the uh friday the 13th and uh texas chainsaw massacre, all that stuff. This is the original, isn't it?
Speaker 2:pretty close. So when it comes to like the slasher Psycho is really the original original in America, there were also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like that concept, he's like killing people at a hotel and he's obsessed with his mom and all that. Right, but the the one that came before it and I'm not an expert on this, I'm not going to talk about it a lot but there was this genre of of books that came out in Italy and movies were produced based on these books and they had like some, they had like a yellow cover, I'm sure. I'm sure somebody listening might, might notice this, especially if they're interested in this at all. But they, they were those, the whole concept of like viewing the victims through the killer's eyes and like a lot of the, a lot of the tropes that you saw.
Speaker 2:That are they're now cliche, but at the time they were like something to behold, like they were like they had to come from somewhere, right, like they had to start, and these italian films were kind of the start of that and john carpenter wanted to take that and do something kind of with that and uh, I'm sure there's other things, I'm sure. I'm sure he probably saw some dude that reminded of Michael somewhere or something like that. I mean that gave him the idea. But yeah, as far as it being like super popular in the US, like Michael Myers is like the whole reason why all of the other ones even started, because Psycho was a good movie, but Michaelers was really that core, that kind of like turn the key open the door, here you go, here's your, here's slasher, you know movies right, so uh, so yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It's a really good start, I think, just for for a first time, doing a horror flick, really, um, and and I mean if, if you haven't guessed, we haven't, I don't think we've actually said the name of the movie yet uh if you haven't guessed, we're doing 1978's um halloween, um.
Speaker 1:now, the one thing that is going to stay the same in all of my episodes, whether it's movie RX, movie RX bad medicine, movie RX recreational use, no matter what it is, I'm still going to give the basic movie info on anything that we do. So basic movie info on this one is that it's a compass, compass pictures production released in 1978, directed the the great John Carpenter. Um, nobody, nobody can deny that when it comes to, when it comes to freaky films, that this guy is a genius Like I mean, he just he's fantastic.
Speaker 2:I'd say him and Wes Craven, yeah, him and Wes Craven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're, they're kind of, they're kind of the 800 pound gorillas, uh of of horror flicks. Um, uh, this movie stars, uh, donald Pleasance, jamie Lee Curtis and Tony Moran. Uh and uh, here we go with the with the, with the uh, imdb description. 15 years after murdering his sister on Halloween night in 1963, michael Myers escapes from a mental hospital and returns to the small town of Haddonfield, illinois, to kill again. Um, that's I actually. I think that's probably about the best one I've seen as far as movie descriptions go, or from imdb yeah, that's uh wow to the point that that really is what it is.
Speaker 2:I mean there's bravo imdb, that's a good one they should mention that this was jamie lee curtis's breakout role as well oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean that is pretty, pretty important actually when, when we watch this in preparation for doing this episode, jen actually laughed when she saw jamie lee curtis's name on there really yeah, because jen jen remembers jamie lee from, like you know, the true life, freaky Friday, Friday type stuff, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's a big younger too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause she does. She does a lot of, uh, family movies later on and all of that. But, um, but she kind of laughed and then uh, and then she was like, wow, she kind of always sounded the way that she did.
Speaker 2:I actually saw a sorry to interrupt. I saw an interview Jamie Lee Curtis was doing and she was actually talking about the only reason she accepted that role is because prior to that she only had these like one or two lines in like a show or a movie or whatever, these kind of like throwaway characters, and this is the first one. She was looking through the script.
Speaker 1:And it was like Lori, lori, lori, lori, lori and she was like I gotta do this, I gotta do it all, absolutely. There's uh actually some interesting information that I have about that coming up here in, uh, in my, uh, in my talking points. But uh, first one, first one actually, uh, do you know? Do you know how much this movie cost to make? I do not. This movie cost an estimated three, not even not even close.
Speaker 2:It was 325 000, you know I the only other movie I think that was like that, like in the in the early 2000s. I think blair witch cost like it might have only been like 38, but it was a really low budget also it was next to nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, um. And the the funny thing is is that like, oh, I don't even remember, I don't even remember how much they said it was, but like, of the 325 000000 to make this movie, um, it was like I think half of it was spent on cameras, um, like pin, uh, like panoramic type cameras to be able to film wide. It was well spent, yeah, and uh, and do you know how much Jamie Lee Curtis got out of it?
Speaker 2:No, besides a lifetime career.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, she was paid $8,000 out of that $325,000.
Speaker 2:I wonder what that would have been. Let me do some math while you're. For. Like today? Yeah, like adjusted for inflation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'll for inflation. Yeah yeah, I'll let you do the math on that. But even though this movie only cost $325,000 to make in the US and Canada, box office return was $47 million. So I mean, yeah, I mean that's at the time $47 million, uh isn't a lot, and I mean there's, I don't even know that movies can be made for less than that now. But, um, but this one made $47 million United States and Canada box office, uh gross Gross. So basically they made their money back. They're $325,000. They made that back about 145 times, so that is an astounding return $39,000.
Speaker 2:It's like $38,900 and some change, so really that would be the equivalent today of getting paid less than $40,000 for the movie.
Speaker 1:So I mean there are people who, like I mean, there are average, normal, everyday people who one year of their salary could have made this movie people who one year of their salary could have made this movie.
Speaker 2:Just me. As a cook for a year, I make more than she would have made like right, yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, man, um, oh. And, by the way, uh, they they weren't spending any money on costumes, so Jamie Lee Curtis had to take $100 out of that $8,000 she got to make the film to go to JCPenney to buy her costume for the movie.
Speaker 2:Oh man, so yeah, Of course it was JCPenney.
Speaker 1:Of course it was. Oh, there goes my dog.
Speaker 2:I thought my dogs were going to be the ones that, okay, yes, I see you.
Speaker 1:Yes, you're fine. Okay, I'm gonna find a spot to lay down. Yeah, I just wanted to say hi, although now that you see that I'm not doing anything, do you want to? Oh, oh, you want to say hi? Hey, can you, what's?
Speaker 2:see me. What's up, buddy?
Speaker 1:I'm looking at the camera.
Speaker 2:That's why, if you see this, I'm looking at the camera.
Speaker 1:Here, here. So yeah, jcpenney, $100 of it at JCPenney. Oh, there she comes again. Another interesting bit the reason why the movie is dark isn't because it was to set the mood or anything like that. It was because they honestly didn't have enough money for lighting, go figure, yeah. So I mean, what do you? What do you like about this movie?
Speaker 2:well having watched. So I watched some of the newer, like the 2018 one and prior to that. The last time that I saw saw Michael Myers. I was like a little kid, so I had to like rewatch it. I think what it's going to sound stupid, but this is just the way my brain works. So what I liked best about it was the.
Speaker 2:What I mentioned kind of in the beginning at the, the the invention of some of these tropes. When I watch movies, and even like horror movies, one of the things that I look at and appreciate is what goes on behind the scenes, and this may not be the answer necessarily you're looking for, but when I see things like the camera going after one of the victims and how they portray it, you know right and the still shots or the continuous shot of him going through the house and the cameras like outside watching him go through the house, almost like you're there watching it, and the things they use in order to draw you in into that moment. And the other thing that I noticed watching the newer movies and then going back and watching that is I don't know if you've noticed this, but michael myers was smart in the first one yes and he would do things.
Speaker 2:He, he wasn't just like this mindless tanky boss guy. You know that you, that was just this ominous, always present force of evil or whatever I think. I think they call it the shape yeah, yeah yeah, later on they end up calling him the shape because it's it sounds more mysterious yeah, and I mean, even the director said that he's like supposed to be this force of evil. Yeah, he's supposed to be representative of the essence of evil, rather than it being the shape of evil. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, see, and he, yeah, I did notice that he was really intelligent in this movie. I mean, aside from a couple of moments where he lingered a little bit longer than I would have had. I've been the guy holding the chef's knife. I'd been like, oh bitch, you ain't getting away this time. But uh, uh, aside from that, no, he was very intelligent, he, he stayed out of sight when he needed to and um, and waited for good moments when people weren't talking on the phone, and things like that. Um, the other thing, what, what I think, what I really noticed, um, that was actually kind of profound for me. Uh, in, in watching this movie and watching it from a more critical standpoint, is there, there is something that that horror movies I think have really perfected? Um, that a lot of the other genres I think have to work harder at Um, and that's, that's bringing you into the scene.
Speaker 1:Um, and I don't even mean I don't even mean from, like a first person standpoint, because, like, a good portion of the first like five minutes of the movie is spent in first person view, you know, with, with that clown mask on and everything. But I don't even, I don't even mean in that way, but the, the way that, uh, I mean whether it's sound effects or or score, like movie score or you know anything like that, whatever it is that they do, um, they, they just they've really figured out a good way to bring audience members into the movie, and I think that's why they're so effective at scaring people, um, and and whatever, whatever techniques it is that they use to do that are really successful for that variety of film. Um, and, and that was kind of the first thing that I really noticed about about this movie as I was rewatching it critically, was I, I feel more inside the movie than I do with a lot of other movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's one of the one of the biggest problems that I have with like cheaply made cash grab type movies is they have this tendency to go after um, what's the word, what would be a good word for this essentially cheap scares.
Speaker 2:a lot of these other cheap movies they use like jump scares, jump scares and they try to scare you with the look of the monster and stuff like that, rather than like the, the the aura of at any time something horrible could happen. You know that, that mixture of suspense and and keeping you there long enough, but not so long that you start to get bored, you know, and I think that that's one thing that they did extremely well oh yeah, uh, they didn't.
Speaker 1:They didn't have these guessing for too long. Um, I mean there, there were times where you were expecting a jump scare, uh, and they didn't do it, but then it would come just after you got yourself at ease, Right like you start winding down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did just a really great job at figuring out those times and how to get people comfortable just in time to present one of those jump scares and the one that comes to mind is when they're in um, when one of the guys I don't remember his name I want to say like Bob or something like that- Uh, when he goes down.
Speaker 1:Bobbert. He goes down into the, into the like laundry area and and you know he's supposed to be getting the other girl a beer, and he opens up a door and there's nothing in there and then he turns around and then suddenly he's got a knife through him and he's getting staked, staked to the wall and you know, whatever. Like that was a perfect moment where you were expecting a jump scare and then, when it didn't happen over enough time, you were like, oh okay, and then it happened, um, another, another thing that was really good, I think in this as far as uh, as far as ambience, I guess, goes um, when, when he would just be there, yeah, like when he was just there's a lot of adults in the shot that need to learn to just be in the moment, michael.
Speaker 1:Myers hasn't figured out. Right, he really does, and sometimes he knows that you just have to be there and you don't have to say anything to really to really help somebody out, let your inner shine through.
Speaker 2:Let your inner creep shine through.
Speaker 1:Let your inner creepiness penetrate those around you, Gong so no like, but like there were. There were a lot of times where, like you know, somebody would be standing there on the phone talking and through the window behind them you'd just see not even, not even the face, but like shadows with lighter spots of it. That kind of looked like a part of the face, you know, like that, just like so.
Speaker 2:So it almost felt like that he was always around, even if he wasn't, even if he might not have been yeah, their use of dramatic irony is is really good and, yeah, you know, you know something's going on, but this person is just like you know, oh, my dog won't shut up and like, yeah, go check you know, I'm sorry, you got a german shepherd that's barking like crazy, like you know, like he wants to eat something and then suddenly stops and then decides that he's not barking anymore like at that point, especially if you hear a whine, because I vaguely remember, I remember the dog like barking and barking and barking and sounding vicious, and then going, oh you know, and then then he stops, get the fuck out of that house, like right, just start running, just fucking run that's the part, right.
Speaker 2:That is like the essence of what makes it so good. Right is because that's your screaming at the the tv moment or the the screen. Stop being an idiot, you know my, my, my dog.
Speaker 1:My dog isn't, I mean, she's not vicious or anything, but I, I would like to think that, if that, if there were a dangerous intruder in my home, that she could be, uh, a formidable defense animal, and if, if I heard her sounding vicious and then suddenly yelp, then I, if I have to, I'm climbing out a fucking window oh, I was like grab the shotgun it is like I'm climbing out a window and I'm just leaving, like uh yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm fucking right off because, yeah, that's, that's telling me that something is much bigger than my dog and I mean, yeah, my dog's 80 pounds, but she's 80 pounds of muscle, yeah, so, um, yeah, this, this whole, this whole, like you know, just going back out into that, into that is just whatever.
Speaker 1:um, what are some of the other moments where it's just kind of a duh thing, like oh, uh, oh yeah, when she, when she like beats the crap out of him in the, in the um, in the closet, like she, she stabbed him in the eye with, with, uh, with the knitting.
Speaker 2:Oh the hanger. That was the hanger one.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, yeah, let's start with a knitting needle. She stabs him in the neck with the knitting needle needle and then she goes up to find the kids. Which good, that's, that's your job. And then, instead of sitting there and talking to the kids about you know what should happen next, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Get the kids out of the fucking house one of the one of the common threads that I've seen with all slasher flicks is this tendency to not check on the thing that you just killed, because they're not people, they're monsters, right. I mean, let's get that straight, they're monsters, right. But in Lori's case, I think what made it worse was this whole concept of pure evil, because if you stab somebody through the neck with a knitting needle or just do a ton of damage use a coat spoilers, by the way, coat hanger and shit my chef's knife, you do all that. There's kind of this like well, obviously they're dead.
Speaker 1:Who gets stabbed in the stomach and then just walks around, you know, or whatever it was well in her case I can kind of forgive a little bit of that except like with, with her thing, like I mean, well, we watched, we watched her do the, the stabbing in the neck with the needle, and then you know, go up, go up for the kids mean, okay, so a little bit forgivable, because she thinks that he's dead.
Speaker 1:But then, after she tells the kids to lock themselves in their room or whatever, and then she goes and leads him off into the other bedroom where he finds her in, in you know, the, the, uh, the closet, and he starts breaking through the slats Uh, she undoes, undoes a wire coat hanger, by the way, brilliant stabs him in the eye like you know what level of concentration you have to be when somebody is literally trying to kill you and you have the thought I mean think about, think about the action in the moment of being in this state of like panic and having the thought to grab a hanger and untwist it right in order to get ready to do something.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people that they're just like I don't know what to do, I'm frozen, you know, and or just start grabbing shoes and flinging yeah, just like hucking shit, you know yeah, no, that's it, but then.
Speaker 1:But then, after you know, poking him in the eye, and he's like, oh, then then like she stabs him again with his own knife and he falls and lays down, and then she, she takes the knife and she throws it on the ground next to the body. Yeah, don't do that and then she goes and sits down.
Speaker 2:I know that whenever tells the kids to go. I like to throw their murder weapon at them back at them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then she tells the kids to go to another house and call the cops or whatever you know all that shit. And then she sits down in in the doorway not looking at the guy that she just fucking killed twice.
Speaker 2:And you would think if you had the forethought to undo the hanger, like we talked about before. It obviously shows that you can be calm under pressure, right? So there's really no excuse to be throwing knives at the person that tried to kill you like you need to keep that bitch right you hold on to that knife you know, I wonder.
Speaker 2:Um, on a side note, I wonder if this happened in tex it wouldn't matter, but there's a lot of places. So let's say he dies, or or he keeps coming at her, or she wants to make sure he's dead, and so she stabs him more than what would be considered self-defense if she would then be charged with some kind of crime.
Speaker 1:Or what she was saying though so that wasn't even her house this would be in illinois. So, uh, illinois is uh, typically, I think illinois is seen as a, as a very like a standard ground as a liberal state.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, so, uh, like you know, guns are illegal and and you know that kind of thing. Um, and and I think that a lot of self-defense laws are kind of uh in in, actually in most States, aside from places, uh, from some places that I know, like Texas um, basically like dude if someone's on your property just off them, like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in texas, yeah in texas.
Speaker 1:It's basically, you know, it's oh uh, that guy, that guy farted and it and it, uh, it deteriorated my roses. Oh well, shoot him, okay, uh, in in everywhere else in the country though, uh, if, if, I mean if you kill somebody in self-defense like you're still going to be treated like a criminal yeah, I would say, um, I'm not an attorney, by the way, and I'm not giving legal advice, but I think that you would probably have a good case.
Speaker 2:Like it sounds stupid to say probably have a good case, but the thing is, is that the the attorney could make the argument like, look, this dude kept attacking her after she attacked him two other times? Right, of course she's going to try and make sure he's not around anymore, like who wouldn't do that, you know? Yeah, I don't know. Just, it was just. I know it's off topic, it was just something I was thinking about at the time yeah, well, I mean it's.
Speaker 1:It is an interesting thought, though, like I mean I suppose on some level somebody might be like, uh well, you know, I want to be real careful about that. That might be a case where somebody might throw the weapon back at somebody that they just killed, trying to get them to stop killing them. You know, like I want them to look like they did it themselves or something, panic, throw the, throw the knife back at him or whatever. But but I mean, come on, jamie lee curtis, this thing, this guy, you already stuck a needle through his neck all right like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Don't, don't give him back his knife. Uh oh, being a chef, what do you have to say about the knife that he used? Did he? Did he choose a good knife?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know the brand. Um, I think it was a wooden handle. I'm pretty sure it was a 10 inch blade full tang. I wonder if it's like a Vitronox Vit.
Speaker 2:I wonder if it's like a Vitronox? Vitronox, vitronox are good kind of middle of the road knives. What knife did Michael Myers use? Okay, it says chef's knife, I knew that I was right Vitronox. Well, it says eight inch Vitronox, but I don't believe that. I believe it was a 10 inch. No, I believe it was a 10 inch. No, I believe it was. So here's what I'm going to say. It is, and anybody else can challenge me. I'm going to say that the knife that Michael Myers used was a 10 inch vitronox with some kind of wooden handle. It could be Rose, it could be cherry, or I don't. I don't know. I can't obviously tell just by looking at it. Vitronox knives will often have a full tang blade and they're pretty good, like decent knives, like we actually had it. Uh, the kitchen I work in we actually have some that are like pretty close to what he used, but they're serrated. So, oh, decent knife, good for all purpose use, which is what Michael Myers did, good versatility. May have tough time going through bone man.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go. Chef rates. Slasher film, knife choice by mass murderer Michael Myers. Yeah, so I'm going to take a moment here to talk a little bit about some of the some more of the goofy trivia around this movie. Okay, so the I think it's pretty well commonly known that that the mask is is essentially butts his bucket William Shatner. Now, a lot of the time, people will say that it was a William Shatner. Now, a lot of the time, people will say that it was a William Shatner mask turned inside out or whatever. Um, but, but something that I had read somewhere I don't know if this is exactly true or not that it was actually a captain Kirk mask, uh, bought from a small store on Hollywood Boulevard, uh, where they they ripped off the sideburns and the eyebrows, uh, and then they painted it white, like a blue white.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a hundred percent sure. I will say I agree with you, because they were trying to recreate it and the the number one thing that gives it away is the hair on the mask is still there and if you turn that mask inside out, that hair would not be there. So they would either have to alter the mask fundamentally and cut that out and add the hair, or they would have to just paint it white and then dye the hair black or something like that. I don't know if they dye it black or not yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It was originally supposed to be a clown mask. I guess they had gotten like a like a sad clown mask and and had put red hair on it I would have ruined the movie. Yeah, I would have made it.
Speaker 2:They said it was creepy enough, but oh my god, that makes sense that they would want to make it a clown mask though, because when he was a kid, because he was a kid when he was six years old and he well, he was so excited when he murdered his sister. He was so excited about it.
Speaker 1:Um, that, that woman, that he that, uh, that played, his sister that played. I think what was her name? Janet. His sister that played. I think what was her name?
Speaker 2:janet, damn it like that, um that that woman uh do you know she was a playboy playmate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't either, until I was flipping through I'm not up on my playmates uh, yeah, me either, especially not ones from the 70s right uh, so that one, though. Well, now, now I know about that one. Um, so, uh, something else that's kind of fun is, uh, michael myers car was a rental? Yeah, they rented a car, um black car. Uh, the black car that was in that movie was, uh, that was used by, uh, the doctor that was, um, that was uh john carpenter's car that guy was such a chode, not the actor right um well, he wasn't a bad.
Speaker 2:He wasn't a chode in the first movie. It was later on, which I won't spoil that one because it is. I mean, it's only it was 2018, so it's still old, but it's not like that old, right? Yeah, I did not like him in that in the.
Speaker 1:The remake in the 2018 movie, the continuation, yeah yeah, something that I thought was kind of interesting I had no idea um. John carpenter directed the movie. He also wrote the theme like the song. Yeah, the da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Speaker 2:That's dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he wrote that he apparently his dad is a musician.
Speaker 2:That makes sense okay.
Speaker 1:And taught him about the that, that, so, so that theme is written in a really weird time signature. It's called 5, really weird time signature. It's called five, four time signature. And so it's oh, it's, it's. I can't even begin to describe it in a way that's comfortable.
Speaker 2:I don't know a lot about music. I only remember that somebody saying something about it being like it's normally like and correct me anybody in the comments that knows more about music. But I believe something about it being like four bars is the normal thing.
Speaker 1:But they need four.
Speaker 1:It's usually four four, creepy four, four okay four, four is what is most comfortable for most people. Um, some things are in three, four, three, four time. Uh, that's more like a bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. You'll get a lot of that in, like uh, waltzes and things like that. Um, but five, four is is really is a really strange time signature, because that's how you get that weird, uh, that that weird incidental sound in there, that that uh, almost almost like syncopation, that that uh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da da.
Speaker 1:I mean it's, I don't know it's again, it's. You know, I'm so far out of music theory that I don't think I could describe it. I don't I, I could describe it, I don't. I don't even know that I fully understand it anymore. Um, but uh, but yeah, he wrote it and it was all because his dad taught him about five, four time and and uh, and how it sounded, you know kind of, um, it's almost kind of a desperate sounding time signature, um, which fits for a horror flick as far as I'm concerned right um so, uh, another really kind of a cool thing that, uh, we were kind of talking about a little bit earlier that I was going to bring up.
Speaker 1:um, so, laurie and tommy I don't know if you remember when they were sitting on the couch and watching a movie- Vaguely. About. When they were talking about, you know, comic books and stuff like that, they were watching a movie called the Thing from Another World.
Speaker 2:Now that you said that, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So the Thing from Another World was remade into a movie called the thing in 1982 that one of my favorites, by the way, of all time also directed by john carpenter, so yeah that's dope as hell. Yeah, it's almost like a little bit of a, almost like a little bit of a that movie was incredible, the thing it was so good. I was actually really surprised that you didn't pick that one, if we're being totally honest. So the oh. Another fun fact Sound effect for stabbing was a knife stabbing a watermelon.
Speaker 2:What yeah?
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to have to do that and see if I can hear it. Well, something to keep in mind is as to why it might, why it might sound so accurate. What might make you believe that it's accurate is if you're a fat guy, then then stick your stomach out and slap it, and then go and slap a watermelon and you'll get you'll get approximately the same sound out of both.
Speaker 2:I need to know how many people actually did this. Just write, write in a comment, say something like me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just drop in the comments right now. You know I did this, it's totally true. Uh, because we have to. Let me make sure that Jason knows. But yeah, so I mean, there's got to be like somebody had to have been thinking. You know, whenever I slap my stomach, it sounds like a watermelon. I bet you, if we stick a knife into a watermelon, it would sound a lot like sticking a knife in my belly. This movie was also filmed in California, but it didn't look particularly fall-like in California when they made it, so John Carpenter had to have dead leaves thrown out onto the set.
Speaker 2:Imagine he, just like pays, goes and finds people and pays them 10 bucks. Just grab those leaves and throw them over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, whatever dude Do you know what's super funny? Finds people and pays them 10 bucks. Just grab those leaves and throw them over there. Yeah, okay, whatever, dude, do you know what's super funny One day. One of those guys was Robert England.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's super cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, robert England, for those that don't know was uh, he was the guy who portrayed Freddie in nightmare on Elm street.
Speaker 2:He also played a doctor in a other, lesser known movie that now that I want to say it, I can't remember the name, but it was basically like a mockumentary, uh, where they they basically filmed the guy that was going to do a killing and then it swaps over to cinema. Do you remember the name of that? But he played I don't remember the doctor, something like hall, singer, hall, something, oh my god, if, if you remember, put it in the comments.
Speaker 1:Uh, any of my listeners, if you, if you know what we're talking about, put it in the comments. But yeah, yeah, john carpenter paid robert england to throw leaves onto the set for a day no, that's not the one I'm thinking of either, behind the mask oh yeah, it's called behind the mask yeah the rise of leslie vernon robert yeah, no, this, this movie was just kind of a lot of fun um, like and and I don't know like it.
Speaker 1:I think I don't know that I that I really watched this in my adult life. I'm pretty sure the last time I saw this movie uh until watching it for for this episode, I think the last time I watched it I was probably like maybe eight or nine and it was totally on, like you know, monster vision Joe.
Speaker 1:Bob Briggs or something you know, like one of those goofy things, um, and and so I don't know, I, I, I think I appreciate it a little bit more now than I did then, mostly because I, just I, I I've never really been into horror flicks, but watching it this time around, um, I, I definitely did come away with a, with more of an appreciation of how, of how they bring people into movies with horror flicks. I think that they, um, that there's definitely a different kind of movie making style that they do with it, that that I need to give them credit for.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's. It's also proof you were talking about it being a lower budget film. You know, and I mentioned Blair witch project earlier it lower budget film. You know, and I mentioned blair witch project earlier it it's proof that it's not about the budget. You could have a multi-million dollar film, half a half a billion dollar film, fucking tank. Right, you have this low budget. Like jamie lee curtis going to jc penny rental car spray painted mass and they made like a masterpiece, right, you know, it's incredible.
Speaker 1:The very first, the very first episode of of October, um, you know, I mean, the just one of the recent episodes I did with Derek was, um, we had talked about. We had talked about alien resurrection and how that had like a 76 billion or $76 million budget and it was a shit movie, like I mean, it was just absolute garbage. And this and this guy, you know, fucking John Carpenter, takes you know less than half a million dollars and turns it into 145. You know that's pretty incredible. So my applause go to you, john Carpenter. That was great work.
Speaker 2:Badass.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, I'm going to go ahead and cut this one off here. Is there anything that you want to plug for your stuff, chef?
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