Grief's Silent Struggle and the Missionary Heart with Bridgette Young

When the world seems to stand still in the face of grief, Bridgette's voice offers a tender melody of resilience and hope. In an episode that promises to touch the deepest corners of your heart, we journey with Bridgette, a missionary with a soul-stirring story of loss and steadfast faith. Her candid conversation with me, Austin Gardner, weaves through the pain of infant loss and the silent struggle with infertility. Bridgette's poignant narrative, chronicled in her book "Lost in the Gray," shines a light on these often-whispered topics, offering solace to those walking a similar mournful path.

The heartache of losing a child leaves a lasting imprint, and Bridgette bravely bares her own scars to guide others through the labyrinth of sorrow. Our discussion ventures into the dark valleys of depression, the strain on marriages, and the crucial embrace of professional help. Yet, amidst the shadows, we find the luminescence of community and faith—a beacon for healing. With compassion that transcends words, Bridget's experiences underscore the importance of creating spaces where all forms of motherhood are honored and supported.

In an act of service beyond mere conversation, the episode extends practical advice for those seeking to comfort the grieving. From the simple acts of providing meals to the profound gesture of remembering lost children, we explore tangible ways to walk alongside bereaved parents with tenderness and understanding. As the episode culminates, Bridgette and I join hearts with our listeners in prayer, fostering a collective journey toward healing and hope. This is not just a story of grief—it's a testament to the unwavering human spirit and the power of shared stories to uplift and inspire.

Lost in the Gray


My Grief Journal Real Feelings and Deep Truths

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Transcript

W. Austin Gardner: 0:02

Well, I'd like to welcome you to World Evangelism Podcast. I'm your host, austin Gardner, and this is a special edition. I am excited because we have a young lady missionary serving God in the country of Colombia, who's currently in Mexico in language school currently in Mexico in language school and she has been through a whole lot, suffered a great deal. God has brought her through or is still bringing her through. She has written a book that I want you to be able to get a copy of, and she has so much to share, and we'll actually do three podcasts with her over this week and two more weeks, and so spread the word and share the news there. So, bridget, how about introducing yourself and tell us a little bit about you and your family?

Bridgette Young: 0:55

Okay, right now we're serving in Toluca, mexico, finishing up language school. My husband, blake Young, is finishing up his final exams this week actually and our four-year-old daughter Willow. She and I are at home right now because I finished my language school not too long ago and this summer we'll be taking a short furlough back to the States over the summer and then this fall, hopefully August 1st is our date to be back in Columbia to get back to work there.

W. Austin Gardner: 1:23

Well, praise the Lord. I am so glad to hear that Now you wrote a book. What's the name of the book and what's it about?

Bridgette Young: 1:32

So the name of the book is called Lost in the Gray and the subtitle is Breaking the Silence on the Struggles of Infant Loss and Infertility. And the reason that I wrote the book is because my husband and I suffered two losses. They were ectopics, and ectopic means that the um, the placenta, did not um get I can't remember the word it didn't start growing in the uterus. It um gets, uh, stuck outside of uterus, like in one of the fallopian tubes is the most common place. So ectopic just means that the outside of the uterus, when it begins to grow, when the baby starts to grow, it can be extremely dangerous because a lot of times they're not caught and they can rupture and hemorrhage and so the mother, oftentimes a lot of women die because of ectopics that aren't found.

Bridgette Young: 2:16

Both of mine were found right before they started to rupture or they had just begun to rupture a little bit. So I had to have emergency surgery for both of them and I wrote the book because the circumstances around our first loss were very, very different. They were not your, you know your normal ectopic pregnancy. We had been told we had miscarried and then a few weeks later we were on our survey trip in Columbia, and we found out on the same day that I was still pregnant, that the baby still had a heartbeat and that I would need surgery that afternoon. And then, when we lost our second, it was through another ectopic. I was flying to the States on a visa run.

Bridgette Young: 2:54

My husband was back in Columbia because we were in language school at this time, and when I landed in North Carolina I found that I had another ectopic pregnancy, had another emergency surgery, had the two removed and so then that left me with not being able to have more children at all. I found several good resources for Christians who go through trials. I believe I mentioned those in the second podcast or maybe I don't remember. But Dark Clouds, deep Mercy, suffering is Never for Nothing. Those are great books to read if you're going through a trial. The book specifically deal with infant loss, especially like topics.

Bridgette Young: 3:30

I didn't really find many resources. I found a couple of blogs but nothing that really talked about the hard side of it, especially those that had heartbeats and kind of skipped over the difficulty part and went straight into the happy and great side of things, which is our end goal. But I wanted to really show the the hard things that parents really go through, specifically the mother that go through infant losses that are not recognized, so anything uh really like um we mentioned we're going to mention in a later podcast. If your child's lit fit in a casket, it's kind of overlooked. And so a lot of the mothers that go through miscarriages and early loss. They have to grieve a lot of silence and they don't have anybody to help them through those moments, so it's mainly geared for that. It shares my story. It shares the stories of other women, covering different types of losses, from miscarriage to stillborn, to loss through medical negligence, and it also discusses infertility and fertility loss, and it also discusses infertility and fertility loss.

W. Austin Gardner: 4:24

So you've noticed Bridget mentioned a couple of times a second podcast. Due to my inexperience with this, we recorded this first podcast once and it didn't record, and so, anyway, we're doing it again, so maybe we'll do a better job this time. Now Bridget has written two books. One of them is already available for you in the Kindle format. You can find it on Amazon and I'll have a link to it below the video and also below the podcast or in the podcast notes. When is the hard copy coming out?

Bridgette Young: 5:06

So the paper copy is coming out March 30th, which is this Saturday, and eventually I think we'll have a hard cover copy as well. But yeah, the actual paper copy comes out this Saturday and the e-books are already available.

W. Austin Gardner: 5:20

That is fantastic. Now you also wrote another book, and it's called the Grief Journal. Would you kind of explain that briefly?

Bridgette Young: 5:28

Yeah, so that one is called my Grief Journal and I can't remember the subtitle right now in this moment because I'm nervous but it deals with deep truths or, I'm sorry, real feelings and deep fruits, I believe is the subtitle, or it's like reverse, something like that, and deep fruits. I believe this is a subtitle, or it's like reverse, something like that, and it's set up in a way to allow people to process and grieve any type of loss. It's not written specifically for infant loss, but it has sections where you talk about here's how I'm feeling today. You write it all out, get it all out on paper, you know kind of get your jumbled thoughts organized and then below that is a section. But here's the truth I'm standing on, and so we can take those feelings and base them on scripture. And yes, I feel upset and angry, but I know that God understands that. I know that God has felt every emotion known to man. I feel abandoned, but the truth is that God will never leave me or forsake me, and so it's something to help mirror.

Bridgette Young: 6:19

Okay, here's what I'm feeling, here's the negative things, but I know the truth of God's word and that keeps us grounded in scripture so we can, in a very healthy way, move forward in our grief and process those emotions and feelings and still allow God to use them. It also has a section for just extra journaling, to journal whatever you would like maybe a letter to your lost loved one, to your child Some people find that very helpful, uh or just to journal about your day. Maybe, um, you know things, that this was a milestone this person would have reached today. This was today's our birthday, or today.

Bridgette Young: 6:48

I just feel like journaling because it's a hard day, or you know whatever it may be just to help people to better process and deal with things that may not have resources other than really writing.

W. Austin Gardner: 7:01

So I'm not sure everything that we covered in the first one, and if I'm missing something, you'd be sure to jump in and uh and help me so we can get as much of the best material out. You went through a series of emotions, um feelings, uh in your life uh, anger or whatever, and so what would you share about what it's like to be where you've been?

Bridgette Young: 7:31

um, it's a place I wouldn't worth. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Um, it's not a place that anyone ever wants to be or to ever have to repeat. Um, losing one child is hard enough. It's extremely difficult. Um, it comes a lot of guilt, whether that loss is you've seen the heartbeat of your child, or your, your child that's died, um, already. And then you still have to birth the child. Uh, whether you're birthing it through miscarriage or through surgery or through stillborn it's all types of birth Every mother is going to feel a sense of guilt with that, because our body, we feel that our body has failed us. Um, so there's a, there's a guilt that comes with it. There's obviously a very deep grief. There's reminders everywhere you look. It's not something that you will ever get over. I've had people say I don't understand why I'm not over this yet, and I tell them a mother will never get over her children, and that's okay, because you're their mother forever.

Bridgette Young: 8:30

You're not supposed to get over your loss, but it can be a very difficult thing when dates come up and you're like, oh, helen would be three years old this summer and Anaya would turn one. Those are difficult days because you're making cupcakes but there's no child you know to celebrate physically there, but we still recognize those days. Or you're out shopping and you see baby clothes, or you see somebody pregnant. There's a lot of things that mothers will see that are reminders and triggers of what they could have had but what they don't have, and that's really heavy in and of itself. It's very isolating at times because, depending on the type of your loss, the earlier it is, the less important it seems, the less significant it seems, which is really sad.

W. Austin Gardner: 9:15

That's the less important it seems, which is really sad. There's a phrase that's the less important it seems to other people.

Bridgette Young: 9:20

Oh yeah, To the mother. It's um, it's extremely real, because the second a mother finds out she's pregnant, we start planning, you know the nursery three the nursery thing, things we need to buy.

Bridgette Young: 9:29

We start the Amazon wishlist, you start planning everything and then it's gone and you're grieving all of the things that you have lost, all the things you won't get to experience, plus the life that you had to lose as well. It's devastating because that life was a part of you. It wasn't an accident or a mistake and God only allowed you to carry that baby, maybe for a short time, but it's still a life that needs to be grieved and a mother has every right to grieve that child. I made the comment in my book that may ruffle some feathers, but because of the circumstances around my first loss, the baby was alive when I had to go into surgery and it was a medical abortive procedure. There's just no other way around.

Bridgette Young: 10:13

That that's just what the truth is, and for a mother to have to choose to end her child's life to save her own is extremely difficult, especially for Christians, I would say. Because Christians are on the side of the picket line. We're all against abortion of any kind. We say we believe life is at conception. We're ready to support those who want to carry their babies. Yet when someone in our own circle loses their baby early on.

Bridgette Young: 10:36

It's almost treated as if that life wasn't important, and so sometimes I feel like Christians are fighting for the lives of those we're trying to save from abortion in the what I would say the normal sense that we know it.

Bridgette Young: 10:49

But we're kind of ignoring a lot of the mothers that lose through early miscarriage, early ectopic, uh, chemical pregnancies, things like that. We kind of brush those inside and we just say, oh, I hope you have another baby really soon, and that mother does not want another baby. That mother wants the baby that she lost. She may at one point, at some point, get to where, okay, I'm ready to have more children, but she will never. That baby will never replace the one that she lost.

W. Austin Gardner: 11:15

The facts are, your baby couldn't live, and you couldn't live if you hadn't have taken care of it Is that correct.

Bridgette Young: 11:24

That's correct, and so you're stuck in kind of a rock and a hard place because, no matter the decision you make, the outcome is going to be devastating either way, and in the medical field and I understand this now.

Bridgette Young: 11:37

If I had said, no, you cannot do the surgery because my baby's alive, they could have overridden that and just gotten a doctor to sign off because my life was in danger. The tube was being interrupted. It was a very dangerous, serious situation. And so really, in those situations the patient, the mother, would have no control over that, because the doctor is going to do anything he can to save your life, which is what he's supposed to do. But as a mother, it just it puts us in a very difficult place.

Bridgette Young: 12:02

That's why the book is called Lost in the Gray, because for me for so long I felt I have been in between kind of the black and white. The black and white, you know, I used to know this is right, this is wrong, this is what abortion is. We stand against it. And then I was kind of caught in the middle, like wait a minute, what about the people that are like me, who have to have what is considered an abortive procedure because my baby was alive?

Bridgette Young: 12:24

But where's the support for that? Nobody wants to talk about it. It's either you're getting an abortion for wrong reasons, or you're having your baby, or you lose it. Naturally there's no kind of middle ground that I could find where anybody wanted to walk with me through that, except for really professional counselors and therapy. And so for a long time I felt lost in this fog, this gray area, and my husband and I had to keep those details really private because we were afraid that people would judge us. We felt very guilty for the decision that we had to make, even though there was no alternative.

W. Austin Gardner: 12:55

That was the only decision we could make in that moment, but that's still very difficult form other process and learn to accept and and learn to live with so you need to buy the book lost in the gray, because some things are hard to understand and unless you've been there and dealt with it, like Bridget and Blake have, you might. I don't understand and until this podcast I really didn't comprehend how terrible this is. I know that Blake and Bridget do not believe in abortion, but they were faced with a situation where they had no choice. So get the book, get the grief journal and use those to help you uh, to help you grow. So we've discussed it, but I can't remember in what area when we discussed it, but you went down deep into a pit. Would you talk a little bit about that?

Bridgette Young: 13:58

Yes. So after our first loss, we were in the middle of deputation when that happened. We went home, I finished my time recovering from the surgery and then we just hit the ground running again. We finished deputation, we just faked it until we made it. We got to the field to start language school. We just faked it till we made it. We got to the field to start language school and I thought I was handling it really well until the first year.

Bridgette Young: 14:19

The one year anniversary always falls on Thanksgiving or the day before or the day after, and I thought I was going to be OK. We hosted Thanksgiving at our house and after that I just spiraled into a really really bad depression. It was. It was bad, and then a friend reached out and suggested that I talk to somebody and get professional help. And that did help, but it got worse before it got better. Because when you take something very traumatic and and difficult like that type of situation and you put it away for so long, eventually it's going to build up and build up and then it just spills out and it's going to affect every part of your life and there's nothing you can do except to face it, to deal with it, process it and move on, so you can begin to grieve and begin to get through it, because really we hadn't grieved that loss or I hadn't at least, um, because I kept ignoring it, because I just couldn't handle the guilt.

Bridgette Young: 15:12

Um, and again, after I was doing better, we got pregnant again and then we lost our other, our second baby and the ability to have more, and that just triggered me to fall into another, um, deep depression and I just felt that God was against me, that he was no longer good, um, that he's punishing me, um, we had people tell us some really ugly things after that loss as well. That didn't help the situation. We had people say things that they meant well, that just caused more hurt, like, oh we hope you have more kids again, have you considered adoption? And this was less than a month after we had lost our baby. Those are not something a mother needs or wants to hear in that moment, and that was hard.

Bridgette Young: 15:53

I almost walked away from my marriage and ministry. I told my husband one night he needed to pack his bags and leave, and our pastor came and helped us through that and offered some great counseling. And, by the mercy of God and my super patient, loving husband, we are where we're at today, um, and our marriage is so much sweeter for it. But, yes it, um, I got in a place that I hope I never, ever, ever go back to. I didn't want to live anymore. I didn't want to to wake up anymore, because it was just. It felt too heavy to carry and I was trying to carry it all on my own and deal with it all on my own, because I didn't think that God was trustworthy anymore.

W. Austin Gardner: 16:31

I am so very, very sorry for all that you and Blake have been through, and I know that it's got to be a thousand times worse for the mother than it is for anybody. But no matter how deep the pit is, you found out that God is still deeper, and so Corrie Ten Boom said that no matter the depth of the pit, god is deeper still, and so I am so grateful for how God's brought you through. What Bridget's trying to do is help any lady, so every pastor listening to this ought to pray about getting as many copies of this book. Ladies in our churches have lost their babies, some wrongfully, through abortion but they're hurting and they need help.

W. Austin Gardner: 17:17

They need help they don't need to be judged, they don't need to be criticized, they don't need to be hated If they realize they wish they hadn't have done it. They certainly need loving arms. You want to say something about that? I'm going to mention others, but you want to say something. Some people have had an abortion, but they've gotten—they love Jesus. They won't love.

Bridgette Young: 17:39

Exactly, and I bring that up a few times throughout the book. I mention to the woman that had an abortion because they chose to, not for medical reasons or because her life was in danger, that there's always redemption found in Christ, that this book is not written to judge them or make them seem like their loss wasn't important, and that they still have every right to grieve their child, to hold a memorial for their child, to seek counseling for the grief of that child, and then later on in the book we also discuss a little bit on Mother's Day how Mother's.

Bridgette Young: 18:09

Day can be very difficult for women who have lost children and there's no children there with them, and I'm glad to hear that there's been. One lady reached out to me. She and her husband are pastors in New York and she said on Mother's Day what they choose to do is to give every woman a flower, so that way people don't feel left out if they don't get to stand up or they feel they can't, and I write in there. You know this isn't a popular opinion, but if there's a woman in your church who's had an abortion, she's a mother.

Bridgette Young: 18:36

Whether you want to recognize that or not, that's the truth.

Bridgette Young: 18:38

And if she's in church, then that means she's seeking a relationship with the Lord, she's seeking to grow, she's seeking redemption and God is going to cover that, just like he covers us, and she has every right to receive a flower and to recognize yes, I have a baby in heaven.

Bridgette Young: 18:51

Maybe she's named that child and she has every right to grieve that child, to honor their child, and she deserves to be recognized as a mother. Because if she's in church, if she's thinking a relationship with the Lord, then she's doing the same thing as any other Christian is, and that's trying to live under God's mercy and grace and to do better today and to share. Maybe she wants to share her story with others about God's redemption, but sometimes they need help with that to show that you're loved here, you're welcomed here, your sin is covered under the blood of Christ and you have every right to recognize that you are a mother, whether other people may say, oh, she doesn't deserve that or she made that choice, she did. But today's a new day and God's mercies are new every day did.

Bridgette Young: 19:35

but today's a new day and God's mercies are new every day and we have no idea of her circumstance. But no matter what the reason was for the choice she made, she's still a mother. Her child was not an accident and God can still use her child in a beautiful way and use her story. And I would be honored to sit by any of those women in church on Mother's Day and to give them a flower and to hear their story and to share their story, if, if it helps other people and if God can use that in beautiful ways, just like he can with my story.

W. Austin Gardner: 19:59

Well, I think that the lesson here is that we're not pro-abortion, but we are pro-love, and loving the person that made a mistake, that did wrong and wants to get their life right, and they ought to have a place they can go and they ought to be loved. And I think Bridget's book is going to help those people. And I don't mean to be rude to you, pastor, but there are ladies in your church that have done that and no one knows about it, what they're hurting, and this book could help them. And the Grief book could help them, um, and the grief journal could help them. They, you know, then, their mothers, that babies it's it's not like Bridget's story, but they miscarried, or the baby was stillborn, or maybe they can't have children and, uh, they're hurting. And Bridget's going to explain, through you, to you over the next couple of meetings, some of that, but her book's written. How would your book help those people?

Bridgette Young: 21:04

So the second to last chapter, chapter 9, is called To those who Lead. It's the name of the chapter and it's specifically written for either pastors, pastors' wives or any Christian who maybe leads a women's ministry, or really it's really for anybody. Anybody can glean from it, I think, or who wants to learn how to walk alongside of parents you know, mothers especially, but also the fathers who go through infant loss, infertility or fertility loss how to help them, how to guide them to professional help if needed, to pray for them. What not to say, what to say, um, things to just do and not wait for them to ask. A lot of mothers, um, may not reach out for help. I know I didn't and I wanted to, but I felt like people were too busy or they were going to think that, well, I should be over this by now, um, but you know so some tips I would offer now if you know someone who's going, who has recently gone through a loss or fertility loss, show up at their house with a meal.

Bridgette Young: 21:58

Don't ask them hey, can I help you with a meal? Just show up, just do it, don't ask, just do it. And that's going to go a long way. You have no idea what a huge blessing that will be. I had someone show up at my door one night with a sweet basket with teas and socks and a candle after my first surgery um, just like a basket for kind of self care, and that was such a huge blessing because that would have been something I would have loved to get for myself, but I, you know, didn't think I deserved it.

Bridgette Young: 22:22

And someone brought it. Um, after my second surgery, my mom helped with the cooking and cleaning and watching willow and people said us a few things. Um, but after my my first surgery, I had to pay someone to come clean my house and I asked them to come clean it. Um, they're like oh, I heard you're recovering from a surgery.

W. Austin Gardner: 22:38

I was like, oh yeah, it was just an outpatient, I'll be fine in a week and I didn't want to talk about what the surgery was was for.

Bridgette Young: 22:43

I didn't share that, um, but it would have been such a blessing if someone had come, you know, for even a month. Hey, I'm here to do your laundry. Hey, I'm here to cook some meals. Hey, I have some freezer meals for you. Hey, I'm just here to sit and talk to you and to listen to you or to pray with you. Those are such a huge, huge blessing. But even not just a month after, but even up to a year, two years after it's good to check in on those mothers and to continue to walk with them through this journey.

Bridgette Young: 23:09

So many people want to sit with the comfortable and the joy and they don't want to sit during the seasons of grief. And we learn, you know, we see in the cycles of the seasons here on Earth that seasons last more than just a day or a week. Some seasons last several months and they repeat. Sometimes you have seasons of grief and it goes away for a while, but it always comes back, and so I talk about them in my book, just to be available for them, just to keep the cliches at home, keep all of the things about. We need to be praising right now and rejoicing. You know that there's a season for that and it will come.

Bridgette Young: 23:40

Right now they just need someone to sit with them in their grief to to keep speaking gentle truths in their life, but showing that God is here with you in your grief. He loves you, he's not punishing you or you know? Um, there I have a list on how to pray for the woman who's going through that, and even her husband. Pray for her heart to stay tender towards God. Pray for her marriage, because it's very stressful on a marriage to lose a child, especially if you lose a child. Any loss is traumatic, but summer is a different level of trauma, I would say, and so that chapter nine does discuss that. It has quite a few different points and suggestions there for people to take what they will.

W. Austin Gardner: 24:23

Well, you know, I think that I pastored and led people for over 50 years and I'm learning from you and I appreciate it. And I'm learning from you and I appreciate it. This is helping me to grow and I hope, as you listen to the podcast, that this is helping you to grow. And Bridget wants to come alongside people that are hurting. She's been down in the pit and she knows what it's like to hurt and Lord's bringing her out in lots of ways. She's already out but, as she stated, stated, she's going to have to suffer. You'll never get over it, will you?

Bridgette Young: 25:02

no, no, because every year there'll be a birthday. Um every christmas, we hang up two white stockings to represent our babies.

W. Austin Gardner: 25:12

Tell them the names of your babies, oh yeah.

Bridgette Young: 25:16

So our first loss we named Callan Vision Young and our second loss is Anaya Oak Young, and Anaya means God has answered and we have things. I used to not display things in my house because I felt that it was not acceptable because they were such early losses, but I have since moved things out where people can see Callan's ultrasound. I have a picture of his heart, his heartbeat, and we have Aniyah's urn that holds his ashes. Every Christmas we put out stockings for everybody and I got two white ones to represent Callan and Aniyah. Every year on their birthday. Willow helps me make cupcakes.

Bridgette Young: 25:53

So this year we'll be celebrating Anaya's first birthday, probably stateside, with my family. That would be the first time we can celebrate one of their birthdays with my family, so I'm looking forward to that. I think that was very sweet because their due dates were less than a month apart, one in May and one in June. So you always have the birthdays. You always wonder what would it be like running around with three little kids, four and under? What would it have been like, you know, to experience certain things at certain ages?

Bridgette Young: 26:26

You wonder, you know, what age would they have been crawling? What would their personalities be like? There's always reminders and triggers that a mother is going to face, and so it's definitely nothing that you get over and a mother shouldn't. But it changes. The grief does change and evolve with time and you learn how to better carry it and handle it. But there are still some days where some things are just a lot harder to handle or it just comes really, really strong. Strong and it was as if it had happened yesterday and in Callan's um. His loss was three and a half years ago and there's still some days that it's just as heavy as it was when we went through it uh, I hurt for you and I hurt with you and I know Blake hurts.

W. Austin Gardner: 27:12

Uh, bridget has a book called Lost in the Gray. And what is the grief journal?

Bridgette Young: 27:18

again, the grief journal is my grief journal. Oh, I can't remember the subtitle. It's real. I believe it's real feelings and deep truths, or vice versa, deep feelings and real truths. I should have written it down, so I remember.

W. Austin Gardner: 27:35

We will put that in the show notes and you can see that and links to get those. She will be with us for two more episodes. They're already recorded and we thank you for taking the time to be with us today. This is the World Evangelism Podcast. It's a special edition because I really believe that Bridget has help for many people. I think that she's been down in the pit and learned and come out and we can all grow from it and I am so grateful to God for who she is and what she's doing and the young lady that she is, and it makes me appreciate moms more. It makes me appreciate what you've been through and I thank the Lord for that. It's kind of time to quit, Bridget, but do you have some co-authors? Is that correct?

Bridgette Young: 28:29

Yes, so there's three main people that contributed to the book. I have one lady that contributed to the majority of chapter eight, which is on infertility and fertility loss, and then I also had my, my counselor and grief therapist contribute to two chapters one on grief and marriage and then the other one. They contributed to the chapter about therapy, and both of them are professionals, licensed. They help people walk through grief every day and they've contributed a lot of really helpful insights as well.

W. Austin Gardner: 28:58

So I just believe there's a wealth of information here from Bridget and I'm excited about how God is using her, and I hope that you will subscribe If you like this. Give us some likes on the YouTube page and share it with other people and let's see if we can't be a blessing. Give us some likes on the YouTube page and share it with other people and let's see if we can't be a blessing to people that are hurting, lost in the gray. They're lost in the gray. They don't know how to get back to the light sometimes, and sometimes the decisions are lost in the gray. You just don't know what to do. So would you please pray with them, as pray with Bridget. You know, the first time we made this recording, I froze, and I'm frozen again. What do you think? So, anyway, thank you so much for listening. This is the World Evangelism Podcast, bridget. Any final words?

Bridgette Young: 29:45

Just thank you for this opportunity to share more about my book and to reach other people.

W. Austin Gardner: 29:50

Well, thank you all very much for listening today and I pray that it's been a blessing to you, and I'm frozen every way I look at it, but hey, we will see you the next time. God bless you.