Monday Morning Cubs Show

NLDS Game 4 Recap: Cubs SMASH Brewers

Carl + Mahoney Season 2 Episode 65

A 7–0 statement at Wrigley flipped the narrative and put this series back on a knife’s edge. We unpack how the Cubs pushed from survival to control—Happ’s thunder off Peralta, the sequence of deep drives that stressed Milwaukee’s plan, and the way elite defense from Dansby Swanson turned would-be rallies into quiet outs. It wasn’t just the big swing; it was a dozen little decisions that formed a blueprint for October baseball: stubborn at-bats, clean transitions on the mound, and a bullpen built on leverage instead of labels.

We also dig into the Brewers’ choices and why timing matters as much as stuff in a short series. From leaning hard on Peralta to burning potential length in earlier games, Milwaukee invited a chess match the Cubs were ready to play. Inside the clubhouse, the tone feels right—celebrate, then clamp down. Whether the team sleeps at home or stares down the Pfister’s ghosts, the only thing that matters is pitch one of Game Five and the first chance to create traffic. Expect conversations about using Palencia and company where the fire actually is, not where the save statistic lives, and how Chicago’s defense can buy precious pitches for whoever takes the ball.

We keep it personal, too: the rituals, the superstitions, the tiny choices fans made to tilt luck our way, and the way a city syncs to a ballpark’s heartbeat. If you rode the highs and still feel the nerves, you’re in the right place. Tap play for the turning points, the matchup mind games, and the one-page plan for Saturday: attack early strikes, refuse free outs, and let the leather do the talking. If this show got you ready for Game Five, subscribe, drop a quick review, and share it with the diehard who sat through the lean months—then tell us your prediction for the first three innings.

Thanks for tuning in!

- Carl & Mahoney

SPEAKER_00:

And we're clear. Good morning, good afternoon, and evening Chicago Cubs fans. Welcome back to the Monday Morning Cubs Show. Today is Thursday, October 9th. This is a game four recap. The Chicago Cubs just put a beating on the Milwaukee Brewers. Welcome back to the show. It's Carl, and I'm happy to say I'm joined by Mahoney, who's in a jovial mood.

SPEAKER_01:

He shoots, he scores, Carl. What can I say if I'm yelling too much right now? I might be a little loud for like turned on the radio. All I can say is the Cubs are going to a decisive game five with the Milwaukee Brewers. And like all we could ask for, unbelievable. This is what we want. This is what we got.

SPEAKER_00:

We've been right about this team all year long. You know, there's some times we've challenged, are they pussies? You know, what's Craig Council's makeup? And it been hard on the team, especially in August. And then to see this tonight, like this paints that picture of this is who the 2025 Cubs are. Now, obviously, yeah, we're going to game five Milwaukee. But as far as I'm concerned, right now in this moment, like what makes game four special to me is that they really battled their fucking asses off down 2-0 in the series and put us in a position now to have an opportunity to get to a chance at play to get to a World Series. Like when we complain about the team and you complain about Jit, all that stuff I feel like can go to the wayside. Because if you tell me at the start of the season we have a game five NLDS, I'm taking it at the start of every single season. I'll take a game five NLDS.

SPEAKER_01:

Thousand percent. And then when I look at it, and I'm not just like, oh, I'm a crack guy kind of thing. For real. When we won yesterday, he kind of was like smiling, laughing, like he we have the brewers almost right where we want them. Yeah, and that is where all like the work you've done, and that I've been listening to is and as the maniacs, but truly, what I knew that the these playoffs was gonna show was Craig's colors, and now we got them. I swear to god, he we have the brewers right where we want them, Carl.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, right where we want them. Mahoney, I gotta ask you, did you you have a couple pops during the game?

SPEAKER_01:

Couple am I sl if I might be slurring a word or two? You know what?

SPEAKER_00:

Let me tighten it up, tighten it up, but that's part of the celebration because this is where we're our state of mind in a recap.

SPEAKER_01:

Is I absolutely have. I mean, why wouldn't I? I've been I've been like doing a tour last night. I brought my kids to Cortland's garage, Carl. I know you've done a review in like once or twice in your life there, but right where the train lets off, my wife comes around, knew we had a driver. I need a change of atmosphere. Swear, and I saw a cubs win in like a bar where like I got my juices flowing again, and I feel like it worked, it worked, and I mean, like, oh my god, but you know what?

SPEAKER_00:

There's so many people listening to this right now that like they did something tonight that worked too. You know, I want to shout out to all the maniacs who did something, yes, sir. Absolutely, and that's a fun thing. Like, I would like to hear get some feedback from people like, what did you do to win game four? And so, you know, I'm sick of a dog, buddy. I'm covet. I mean, you could literally bloodlet me right now.

SPEAKER_01:

And I had a bad, I had a bad feeling about it, Carl. You know, I knew you were gonna get the body aches like day six.

SPEAKER_00:

It's just not good, it's been long for a long time. Um, so Mrs. Carl accommodated me, accommodated me tonight after a long day of work and was like, whatever you need for this Cubs game, so we can get a victory. And like the partnership with my wife, her she's so wonderful, not to get too personal or anything, you know, but just like the idea of like I you need to be locked in on this game so that you can have your focused energy so the Cubs can go win. So, what do we need for dinner tonight? I'm gonna go pick it up, this and that, whatever. You know, and everybody has their own little fucking thing. I wore my special hat today that my brother gave me, you know, that has a sentimental meaning to me, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

Um thousand percent. You know, all those little things, all like the little things that you had alluded to in the last episode of the Monday morning cub show. Like everyone's going through something one way or the other, and then like not in like a weird way, like, no, like we're gearing up for the cubs, and you either have a family or you're just at a bar, like you're taking off work for an hour, just like to watch the first couple pitches. Like everything that you're doing is gearing up for all of this process and emotion that we've put in to an entire season to build to this moment, and that's the beautiful thing about baseball. Like the guy ran into that was pissed off that the time got shifted, all of it. Yeah, that like you said six like that guy was at least four degrees. Yeah, like you can only go sit. Like, and now I didn't understand what you said until you know I re-listened, but for real, that's like this is life, and this is what's beautiful about it. And guess what? We're going to game five now, baby.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, now you're getting roll, you're getting ahead. We are rolling, we are rolling.

SPEAKER_01:

I know that's why I stopped myself because I could literally keep going.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you're gonna defocus the podcast, and that's what we don't want to do, Carl. No, what I'm saying is what's the balance between celebrating this? Because the next point I have is like we celebrate stuff, then we come out flat. Now it happened when we clinch playoffs, it happened when we beat the Padres, and so now I want to know what's the tone of the clubhouse. I hope it's all business. I hope these guys have are just locked in ready to go. Now, I imagine obviously they've earned the right for me to assume, but they don't have a long way to travel, they have nothing but baseball to focus on.

SPEAKER_01:

There's no way that these dudes are not as dialed in as they were tonight.

SPEAKER_00:

Do they bust up right now, or because they're playing in Milwaukee, do we get to spend the night in Chicago with our family?

SPEAKER_01:

Go no, go to the Pfeister, go to the Pfeister right now. What is that even the Pfeister Hotel? The haunted oh, the haunted hotel, the one that most baseball. I think I think it's the major league baseball like default. That's where teams stay at, and you hear nothing but stories. Go to the feister, look those ghosts in the eyes, and then go to Milwaukee and win a goddamn series and go to the Championship League series against those Pasky Dodgers. Let's go. Like, let's go to the Pfeister. And if not, no, drive. I'd rather the guys stay at uh their humble abodes. Their houses. It's it's I live closer to Milwaukee when it comes to driving to any traffic. If there's traffic involved, it it takes me longer to get to Chicago than it does in Milwaukee. I live in Arlington Heights, future side of the Bears. Folks, let the boys stay in their bed. Let the boys stay in their bed. They'll get there in an hour and a half.

SPEAKER_00:

What you're saying is you'll drive them to Milwaukee.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll take I will personally drive. Who's starting tomorrow?

SPEAKER_00:

Hopefully, not Shoda. Fucking leave him back. If you are driving, make sure Shoda doesn't get on the bus, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, I couldn't, I couldn't find which whacker drive. Am I on lower or am I on upper?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nothing worse than when the GPS cuts out on lower whacker, and you're going somewhere in Streeterville because they're all one-way streets and you just start panicking. Next thing you know, you're in a fucking some guy's coming up to you, you know, asking if you want a handy.

SPEAKER_01:

No, it's happening. No, all right, no shtick, folks. I know that there's a lot of listeners in Dallas and stuff, and anyone from abroad, when we're talking about lower racker drive, it's legitimately you're all of a sudden underneath an entire city with lights, there's nowhere to pull over. Just saying, all right.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I mean, send out a dot. I mean, send out a documentary link if you want to talk about lower whacker. Do you want to do a lower whack? We're eight minutes into the show. We no, I'm not into it. I'm not no, I don't want to. We haven't even introduced the we haven't even introduced a signature spicy finish Mexican style soda that you're sipping on. And you want to talk about how Batman was filmed in Lower Whacker.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, are you not talking about the Sandy SL Vaja, are you, Carl? Which is a bull bend of sparkling water. This is the weird real watermelon juice and zesty jalapeno finish.

SPEAKER_00:

You're talking about real gave, dude. I honestly feel like I'm on Clark Street right now with you at Yaksy's, and we just went to the game. Like, I with this conversation is a con. This is the most authentic Carla Mahoney conversation you guys could possibly hear.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel like I couldn't be I couldn't be happier being happier.

SPEAKER_00:

Speaking of which, I have to take a little bit of a victory lap, but first continue your thirsty vaquero ad read, my friend. It ships from Amazon, and Mahoney enjoys it.

SPEAKER_01:

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SPEAKER_00:

The Cubs won tonight. All right, don't make I've we've talked about this before on the green screen. You can't make loud noises into the microphone because it can distract people that are in traffic.

SPEAKER_01:

But that was an actual like refreshing okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Just keep it to us, just keep it to a certain level. I'm not liable for a traffic accident. We don't carry that type of insurance limits around here, pal.

SPEAKER_01:

I I've also clapped many times in the microphone, and Carl's had to tell me to settle down before.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna strangle you with that microphone. You're the only person who still uses a mouse.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, good thing I yeah, I was just gonna say good thing. My mouse look at my mouse plugged in, it's not plugged in, so it's not even an option.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, game four today. Big observation. Now, I'm not taking a victory lap. I'm gonna say, guys, go take a good look at Thirsty Vacaro on Amazon. This is our 16th or 17th episode in the last 30 days. Tomorrow's scouting report that I'll do um will be our 18th. So Thirsty for Carol, I've made very sentimental comments about before, and I just want to reiterate the fact that it's been awesome for them to jump behind it. I love having a product in my hands. I was I was honestly put on earth to put a product like Thirsty for Carol in my hands to spread the word of a great refreshing Mexican style soda with the signature spicy finish. That's all bite and all rattle, my friend. So get that on Amazon, three bald flavors, ship all over. Go find for yourself. All right, now big thing I want to take a victory lap on. I spent time allegedly too much based on some of the interactions I had with people on social media, uh, which is fine. I love I love it. I'm not complaining about when you're yuck it up, you yuck it up.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what you do.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not gonna come on here and fucking start complaining about people who are mean to me on social media. I like social media. I like mean, come on, you you're way past that. All right, okay. I remember today, buddy. We're we're past it. So, my point is though, talking positively about Ian Hap after game three, insane, even though he struck out twice, struck out late in game, people are still mad at him. You know, here's some of the stuff I've seen from him that's positive. And Ian Hap almost had four home runs tonight. Obviously, the three-run shot against Freddie Pralta that broke it open in the first inning. Um swung on and hit. Thanks, Mahoney. And I'm battling COVID, guys. I don't know how much I gotta say that, but it's just like anytime you have to cut over cough.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll just throw in uh thank you, buddy.

SPEAKER_00:

I appreciate it. Swung on, oh swung on, swung on lifted. So I have you know, I don't want to take this victory because it's just one game, it's just one sample size. But there are people that think, you know, I'm crazy about the game, or just crazy in general, both are valid. I mean, that's fair. If I'm sitting here and I'm telling you, and the intuition is driving me towards Ian Haps making incremental improvements that I think are obvious, leading to a breakout game. And then if you go look at his spray chart, Ian hit Ian Hep today hit obviously a home run, and then all three outs were caught up against the wall. Like, you can't target balls, dude. What a moment, and you could just tell he's he's just built, man, for these moments, and that's what I was trying to draw from his plate appearance and his presence, and just his overall presence in the um Wrigley Field atmosphere. And this sounds like I know some people could criticize me and be like, This sounds like a money ball scout, like I'm just making shit up, talking about his girlfriend, or like it's not, it's not, it's it's like it's always what Ian Hap has been, uh, to be honest, and it's like what we've known of Happer, and when you go from like, oh no, like we know what hap will do when it counts, and yada yada yada, like those well, the months where it's down, but you know, in like August it'll it'll heat up, and now we're seeing Hap heat up when it absolutely counts, so he hasn't had that many chances, and now we're seeing that it's great too because it is yeah, he spent a lot of years in rebuild, you know, sat through the Theo departure and is nice. And you know, I was thinking about Dansby Swanson today, too, because uh particularly after the game when they're singing the song and stuff, because you know, whatever people shit love shitting on Dan'sby Swanson. That's probably just because you have like miscalibrated expectations about what type of bass. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't get that, but continue.

SPEAKER_00:

Sorry, thank thanks. I that was just about the most unnecessary interruption.

SPEAKER_01:

I think you could possibly it really bugs me though, because when people do bitch about Dan's B, like I'm a collective guy, that's all. Sorry, Carl. I'll I'll hold my thought.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I mean I'll ask for it. I think there's a good time for it, but I would like to make my point before you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Make your point, make your point.

SPEAKER_00:

We're at Yaksy's right now. I feel like drinking drinking a thirsty.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. That's the beautiful thing about yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

This good thing this is a recap show. Again, we'll be back tomorrow morning, uh, with Scout and Report preview in depth. But a general person I was thinking about was Danzby Swanson, particularly because he had signed here after winning, he's like a year removed from winning a World Series with his hometown team, not hometown necessarily, but he grew up a Braves fan. Um, and so just like to buy into the Cubs at a time when we weren't like we didn't have a ton, and Jed had to pitch him. Obviously, we gave him a fuck ton of money, he's getting paid 28 million dollars, and people said we overpaid for him. But if you watch the Padre series, Xander Bogarts is getting a hundred million more dollars than Dansby Swanson is, and they were free agents at the same time. And so for Danzby Swanson, like sure, again, I know we paid him over 175 million dollars, but the fact that like he buys into it, he becomes the like you know, the veteran. I would imagine the go-go, rah, rah, pick guys up in the clubhouse and the experienced leader and all that stuff. And so, as he's coming off the field at the end of the game tonight, it's like for him to see it like go cubs going. Matt plays rocking and rolling, that had to be extra special for him because he's bought in so deeply into all the little things it means to be a good baseball team, and he's just so important from a day-to-day setting the example of how to be a professional and all the shit he's had to listen to about how he's not fucking good enough, he's not worth enough money. Yeah, team sucks, can't go to the playoffs, and like he's jogging off the field today, he's fucking put us back into a game five situation, um, and just really soaking in the fact that like he's been since they've just been a really unbelievably impactful defender at shortstop in the postseason.

SPEAKER_01:

So and an impactful defender and Carl, if you look back at the series and you just like there's you know video out there where you can say show me Danzby's uh defensive gems of the past uh four games, it's unbelievable. And then if you look even like beyond in the you know the Padre series, he is the person who got us here. And you know, it might not go well for him at the plate, but he you know, takes his helmet off, and I see that hair, and I'm not being weird, but I know what he's done and what he has done defensively, has got us where we are.

SPEAKER_00:

100%.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you. We I mean, like, not the best finish, but honestly, he's just the man, dude. Dansby's the Mansby. Right on shoots he fucking misses. Yeah, good point, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

So, anyways, no, dude, I know what you mean. He's just a perfect looking ball player, he's so handsome, he's just it's like I don't mind when when he strikes out and whips his helmet off and he's pissed off.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, you know what? I love you, Dansby. It doesn't matter, bro. You're I know you're gonna get out there.

SPEAKER_00:

I like when he gets a little sassy, I like when he gets a little you know, he's throws his stare at the umpire when they call a check swing on him, and he just gives him that is it just me, or is it always like going towards a commercial break? Like where it's like no, the production does no, they the the production, especially marquee network, has really honed him.

SPEAKER_01:

That must be part of his contract because like he gets four commercial breaks per game, and he like every he's like, I need four whipping my helmet off if I strike out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you guys owe me 20 seconds of air time of like adjusting my hair in the dugout cat like candidly.

SPEAKER_01:

If we find out that that's in miners of major league baseball players' contracts, it's like no, I need a certain amount of my hair showing in the frame.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, moving on. Well, you'd be surprised, and obviously, I think that might be a reach, but there's so the egos, these guys are crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a new collective bargaining agreement coming on the table here. Couldn't think of a worse time to bring that up. We're in a divisional series, going to game five, and I'm talking about a stoppage. I'm like, are you really thinking about this golf steam?

SPEAKER_00:

Did you drink bleach?

SPEAKER_01:

I have been on a very tear this day.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my god, thank god this is a recap show, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank god. I had people checking in. Uh my uncle Jeff, like props to my uncle Jeff. One, thanks for listening. Two, people were checking in, like, hey, are you doing okay? I'm like, no, Carl's just ripping and tearing right now. Yeah. Like, what do you want me to do? Like, I got I gotta watch the kids. I commit to Monday and Thursday.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, yeah, you know, it's um people miss you. That's my number one takeaway. My number I've gotten a lot of is Mahoney face down, is Mahoney dead? What happened to Mahoney? Did you did I murder Mahoney? Did I are you am I John Wayne Gacy? And are you in my basement for me?

SPEAKER_01:

That's like it's almost it's not funny. I I appreciate the concern, but literally, it's exactly what you guys think.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're back, Cubs win. We have game five coming up. Uh, some general other recap notes here. Matt Boyd take us take us 20 minutes into the fucking show to say his name. Matt Boyd tonight, four and two thirds, six strikeouts, two hits, zero earned runs against. Making him, I don't know if he qualified for the win. I gotta look and see what they did with that.

SPEAKER_01:

Mervyn and Row shoving today.

SPEAKER_00:

He was 12 and 1 with a 2.5 ERA in 15 starts at home today, going in today. And so people had questions because he got his shit pumped in game one. Uh five days rest. You kept saying short rest. He was on he's on regular rest. He threw 30 pitches in game one.

SPEAKER_01:

I didn't say short rest today. I knew it was five days. I counted.

SPEAKER_00:

Palencia, sensational coming out of the bullpen, just really owning the moment. And I can go through everybody in the bullpen for a second here and just say, like, how how proud do you want me to be of a guy like Drew Prom Pomerans or of a guy like Brad Keller, who still you can see him every single time finding himself out there? The whole really good stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

The whole kit and caboodle, dude. Palencia, like understanding his role. I love the fact that we were like never married to a closer, especially after he got injured, but totally fine with him in the sixth and seventh inning, like, and he's fine with the two. So people buying in is everything in playoff baseball, and here we are on October 10th talking about it.

SPEAKER_00:

Another big thing is 100. We're talking about playoff baseball, Mahoney. I know, dude. You're gonna get the dismounts. Don't worry, 100. I get what you're saying. I just need to just land this like a toe. I know, dude. I feel like we're at a skate park and you're just trying to just give it in my all, dude. You know, just keep getting up, dude. Don't worry about it. I'm not gonna stop you from trying to hit that 360 OLE kick flip.

SPEAKER_01:

You're sick, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Just please do me a favor and wear a fucking wrist guard or something, or else I'm gonna have to drop you off at the ER for like the third time. Oh, I got a great story for the maniacs. I'll tell you guys this another time. Um, in the meantime, what I would like to talk about is Caleb Tielbar in the ninth inning. And just another sensational moment for me watching this is thinking about towards the end of this game four, as we're going to game five, what these guys have really earned, at least for me, you know, and I think a lot of Cubs fans will agree. The overwhelming sentiment is like they've the the what they've earned is like this kind of legacy that is way further ahead of getting swept in the NLDS round and the disappointment that lingers, and just the last two games the one run game, and then coming out today, sticking it to Freddie Peralta, you know, like it really just in just two days and 48 hours is and that this is the shitty thing about baseball because it's so hard and it's such a you know small sample size, but like this is how you talk about the teams. This is ultimately what it comes down to, and like again and again and again, back into a corner, you know. Now we earn ourselves an opportunity to go back to Milwaukee in news flash, guys. As we're gonna talk about the scouting preview, like the Milwaukee Brewers pitching stab is in big, big trouble, and they made a huge mistake converting Chad Patrick to the bullpen and making him a reliever because they could sure use him to start game five and like try and find five innings from him. They made a huge mistake with Quinn Priester starting at Wrigley Field in front of probably a hundred of his family members using the opener in game two. They made a huge mistake making Freddie Peralta throw 95 pitches in game one, and then they had to make another mistake. When they talk about Freddie Peralta, I thought they rushed him in game four today, making him start in Wrigley Field. I would have kept him in my back pocket and gotten cute and creative with the bullpen like they did in game two.

SPEAKER_01:

And we understand they get after him then.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we we tagged him, Mahoney. We made him work hard.

SPEAKER_01:

It's the sixth or seventh time these boys have seen Eddie, and you called it. We're not gonna call you the shot caller. I'm not ruining your rant here, but dude, we got him right where we want him, and that's what I feel really good about right now.

SPEAKER_00:

I think a lot of people are with you on that. I think most people listen to this aren't feeling good, Mahoney. I think I think I think hell fucking yeah, yeah, dude. I think that's I think you're dropping that's sick.

SPEAKER_01:

How you don't even know, you guys don't even know, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

We got him, we got him on this next episode. Mahony's gonna tell us how happy he is.

SPEAKER_01:

Think about it. We don't gotta we don't have a long track to go. Pat Murphy looks a little nervy, and we're gonna get Slurvy on that fucking cock survey.

SPEAKER_00:

What the fuck, man? I think we're gonna see Mizerowski. I gotta do some more homework and I gotta look into what we do loud voices, Mahoney. Indoor voices, indoor voices, buddy.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, if if we do see the Miz, that's the absolute greatest thing I would ask for as a Cubs fan. If we get Mizorowski straight up, don't do that to the baseball guys.

SPEAKER_00:

We gotta, I mean, if anybody can, but you should. You should talk that shit. We are in the right. That's what I want.

SPEAKER_01:

That's if that's what we're gonna do, uh that's absolutely what I want. Why, Carl? Because he'll be wild first inning. Hey, Michael Bush might fucking hit a home run right off of him. He'll be wild, put people on, and we'll like we'll get to him quickly, and then it's game five, and and who knows? Uh we're on, yeah. Anything can happen. Then it's a dice roll.

SPEAKER_00:

Anything first we're at the crab's table, we're playing roulette.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, yep, yep. I gotta slow my roll.

SPEAKER_00:

Yo 11. Yo 11. Hey, again, dude, someone could be on an airplane right now, they just fall on us and they just elbowed the guy next to him because of you. We got a guy I'm gonna get sued. I'm being dead serious. I don't have the insurance limits on the show.

SPEAKER_01:

Fair.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you have your CDL? I know you've worked a lot of jobs. Do you have a commercial driver's license?

SPEAKER_01:

That's the one only thing that I probably don't have going right now.

SPEAKER_00:

I think you should get one. I think that would be a funny do they drug test? I'm out. Why is there no CDL reality television show? Or is there THC just cut to one guy garbage, one guy long distance, one guy parcel, you know?

SPEAKER_01:

Like that would be all people that make the world go around.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, real nice moment for me yesterday. I'm walking down the street. Obviously, when I say my show, wait to hear this.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so we're still we're still recording, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, we're rolling, baby. This is a recap show. Um and just to be clear, I am for the most part, in like you know, I have all of my faculties with me here. I'm just I just want to tell Mahoney the story. So I'm walking down the street, and you know, my road is this gravel road. Yeah, and for the maniac area, yeah, it's about like a half mile, and there's like there's three houses and then like a barn on it.

SPEAKER_01:

And if you skip through the forest, it's onto an actual like forest preserve walkway.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, just so you guys know. Okay, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

So, anything else you want to add to my story before I no, just so for it's not just like a gravel road, there's like a lot of nature surrounding okay, and so it's in you.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I mean, sure, like I feel um, I feel like this isn't this isn't as intimate as I would appreciate. Like, I'm trying to tell you a story here, okay, buddy. So, what I'm trying to say is I'm walking down the street, you know, I'm walking down, but I'm trying to tell people, listen, you know, obviously remind you, okay. So it's this gravel road and it's a dead end, it's not connected to anything. So, you know, and it's very clear it says it's just it's hardy, you can't hardly even see the street in the first place, and there's signs up that say no trespassing and private property, and it's just like a long gravel road or whatever, and there's a couple houses on it. And so I'm walking down, I'm walking down the street. I go for a walk on the trail, and I'm walking off the trail back onto the road as an Amazon driver is pulling down the street. And the Amazon driver slows down while I start walking down the street, pulls up to me. It's like I cross out in front of the Amazon driver. He pulls up to me and he goes, Hey, buddy. And I go, Yeah, can I help you? He goes,

SPEAKER_01:

He buddied you.

SPEAKER_00:

He goes by any chance, do you do you live on this road? And I said, I do live on this road. And this guy goes, I've been delivering packages for Amazon for a decade. This is my favorite street I've ever driven down. And I always think about how nice it would be to live on this road and how magical and wonderful it is to be out here in nature like this. You have you're the luckiest guy in the world. Do you know as a homeowner, the Amazon guy?

SPEAKER_01:

What you want to talk about in your entire life?

SPEAKER_00:

38 years old. My mother has never said anything. No, of course, I have the most lovely. You do sit what a beautiful little enclave you guys have out here. How lucky are you? And I'm just saying, as a homeowner, Mahoney, do you have any idea how good that felt for me?

SPEAKER_01:

I I can imagine, and only the only thing I have to like bring it down a couple notches is that what's sad is the Amazon, they get they get switched. I know it's not gonna be the UPS, it's not the FedEx guy who truly like that's what almost makes it even more precious. Because this guy only he goes, This is the only time I'm ever gonna be able to deliver down this road.

SPEAKER_00:

He is actually our frequent Amazon guy now because we when you live in Rome.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, there's a way, yeah, just just what I know from you know access control and all that, it's typically a different person, it's not the UPS and Fed.

SPEAKER_00:

Either way, my male lady has dropped off baked goods before. That's the type of community. So, this is a little bit of a just a recap distraction show. I hope people are enjoying this. Uh, you know, to a certain extent, there's gonna be a great scouter report available. I'm gonna get some information on what game five looks like and do some homework and some data analysis. But just going back to it, you know, a 7-0 victory. Whoo, how much fun would that have been being at Wrigley Field? They cut to the field. I'm like, ooh, I could have I could really picture myself in some of those seats.

SPEAKER_01:

It was a Thomas Kincaid painting tonight, Carl. It was a thing of beauty, everything about it, and then you just continued to see the goose egg. I mean, it was almost an all-bite, no rattle, like type finish on that signature, signature.

SPEAKER_00:

I gotta tell the thirsty but Carol guys that using the word signature in describing your product, this is our signature, or having a signature spot. That is for and I'm not saying this to have I'm trying to try to get some credibility. The amount of ad copy I have read in my lifetime of podcasts or Instagram stories we used to have to post, or be like thousands of minutes, thousands. So um, you're gonna blow my fucking eardrums out. I'm gonna be really mad about it.

SPEAKER_01:

I promise screaming. I am guys, guys, I'm about to pop open another third stee. I swear to god.

SPEAKER_00:

Let me hear it crack, crack it. Let me hear it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, hey, that pop your eardrums.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that felt good. It's fine, that felt good. So, but in my my point in saying is there's nothing in my experience of reading copy or interacting with copy or something where I've ever felt I'm like, damn, that is a fucking genius thing to say. Then when I'm talking to my buddy at Thirsty Vaccarol, and he's like, So the way we consider it is a Mexican style soda with a signature spicy finish, and I'm sitting here going, God fucking spicy finish.

SPEAKER_01:

You're a genius, he's just describing the product.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm like talking to John Hamm, you know, what a moment, what a great marketing tactic. I mean, just a really great presentation because it is true, it is a it is a spot, it is not to do a double down on ad copy. People get sensitive about the ad read, people get sensitive about the fact that no hardly but we're trying to be serious, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a little I've I mean I haven't had much experience with you know sponsored drinks, but this thing, as soon as you drink it, it gets yeah and it you love it like one of the best cocktails, not even a cocktail, one of the best drinks I've ever had in my entire life.

SPEAKER_00:

Thirsty for the signature spicy finish. I have so much COVID. All right, so here's just a couple quick more like serious things. Yeah, dude, give a rest for a minute. What do you gotta say? You gotta tell me what.

SPEAKER_01:

Your body aches, the body aches were coming. It was coming. I knew you're like, I'm feeling okay again. I'm like, you're not gonna feel okay in about 24 hours.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, what if it's it's if it's not covet, it's something else. I've never been this, you know. It's like now when I get sick, I get sick for a double whammy, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

You could have a double whammy of COVID and sinus infection. Same thing happened to Patates.

SPEAKER_00:

That's Mahoney's wife. Um, all right, we got to talk about the baseball game, then we gotta wrap up here, pal. So let's just keep this train on the tracks for the next. How long do you got new? Do you have do you have three to five more minutes? Yes. Okay. So it's got to feel good for Craig Council to do that in front of the hometown crowd, even the series. They just the other thing, too. I think it's been fun to just briefly here kind of celebrate the fact that we've evened up, especially after losing the first two games horrifically. But kind of a closing thing to like the third act of this or the final chapter of the show would be specifically, and I'm really teeing this one up for the AI fucking software. This is the final chapter of the show, is to say we do still have a lot of work to do to even feel good about saying a shit about an NLCS. Like this game five, if you thought game three was tough to watch, you know, and if you were nervous going into game four, buddy, this Saturday, and thank goodness that we have a Saturday, and that this isn't on like a Tuesday where I gotta be like walking around in public and stuff. Like, I can shut myself in. Now I just encourage Cubs fans like, you know, obviously, hey, it's great we won game four, lineups hot, all this shit. But like the only thing I care about is the first pitch of game five. I so when we get into the game preview and stuff, I'll talk about the pitching matchups and this and that. But this is the point, it doesn't matter who a close, no one's calling anybody a closer right now.

SPEAKER_02:

No setup, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Fucking if Pomerance has to pitch the first inning on Saturday, he will bar has to play shortstop left-handed, he'll go do it. Like, fuck if I gotta go out and play, so be it. I'll go out and play.

SPEAKER_01:

Bro, you got you got a lot of innings in you.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's where we're at mentally.

SPEAKER_01:

That is where we're at mentally, dude. And it's the like game five, everything we wanted. Like, come on, it's it's time to go, and I think we could do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Perfectly said. Uh, in the meantime, if you guys could subscribe to the show, like the show, review the show, throw us five stars. If you have something nice to say, obviously, please share it. If you don't, keep it to yourself. Um, we will be back tomorrow, which is Friday, me or Mahoney.

SPEAKER_01:

And and guess who's back? Mahoney's ready to rock tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00:

What?

SPEAKER_01:

So my wife isn't working in the morning, so I have coverage. I'm just putting it out there. I'm just saying, hey, no, same thing. If you're feeling tasty, rock and roll.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, let me sleep on it and get back to you. I'm interested in a good dialogue and discussion about what I think pitching matchups could look like for game five. Uh, in the meantime, dude, you're killing me. Never mind, never mind. You're this is this will go down in the annals of Monday morning cub show.

SPEAKER_01:

We pocketed an episode last year.

SPEAKER_00:

Yo, dude, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, one time I you're like, hey, we'll just save that for b roll. I don't know. Yeah, that is a bro. We didn't release.

SPEAKER_00:

I know you you you were in Buffalo of all places, dude. Get it together for fuck's sake, especially when you're traveling alone for work. Like that's dangerous territory. Now, let me tell a story real quick. In 2017, the Chicago Cubs won. I don't know if this pot if this is available. This is when you know, I'll say it. Redline radio. We were doing we were doing red line radio. This is the first year, and it was 2017, and the Cubs were playing in the NLDS, and they won game five against the Nationals. And that year, I had learned how to hook. You didn't, we didn't have StreamYard, there wasn't fucking Zoom or any of this bullshit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it wouldn't just put it together, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It wasn't easy in the least bit, but I had learned how to hook up a phone to the soundboard so you could record phone call conversations so that we could interview people on the phone, like we wouldn't do Zoom interviews or shit. Like again, there wasn't like Google Hangouts. We were just like, No, yeah, it's easier to call someone on the phone, 14 years ago almost. But yeah, I put down like 17 fucking beers. No, how many drinks? How many drinks? As many as well, as many as I could have had watching game five in the apartment on Michigan like high teens, high teens going down to crolls in odd-numbered innings, like ripping shots of Malord or something. And this is like this is not there's no Barstel anything. I'm literally just an insurance sales guy that had started a podcast at year with white tax dave. I was blogging for Barcel a little bit, but like, dude, I mean this is uh nothing. I'm full-time job insurance sales just getting loaded game five of the NLPS. Cubs win. I'm like, fuck it, I'll record a solo show. I don't know if this show is available if they deleted or if they still have this stuff. It'd be in October of 2017. I got wasted. I called White Sox Dave. I woke them up at like three o'clock in the morning. Was like, hey, did you rip the show? It was like, Cubs are moving on, baby.

SPEAKER_01:

You plugged into your computer.

SPEAKER_00:

How do you feel about that shit? How do you feel about that shit? Oh my god, that was so funny. He handled, I mean, it was hilarious. It was hilarious. It was absolutely hilarious.

SPEAKER_01:

You took a shot of rumplements just to freshen your breath, and like, like, I'm going, I'm yelling.

SPEAKER_00:

So I bet I know these are these these exciting moments in the postseason where you know it's like you just get this is everything.

SPEAKER_01:

Honest, dude, this is everything you would ask for. We're like, hey, well, maybe well, no, I mean, when we first started two years ago, hey, if they make the playoffs, we might get something, and now it's like the community is built, and that's everything to me beyond what's already happening.

SPEAKER_00:

Good, good, and and the community loves you, and you're an integral part to how many people have consumed the 2025 Cub season. So, you know, but there's a lot more fucking baseball to be played, and now we're getting distracted from the part that I was trying to make at the end of the show to say, you know, we gotta stay focused into game five, Mahoney. So you know, we gotta stay locked in. You in particular, buddy.

SPEAKER_01:

I get off kilter very quickly.

SPEAKER_00:

You don't say a fuck.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, I love you so much, man. I love me too. Don't happen to still be talking about this shit.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I know we get another day, we get another game, we get another show, more lineup previews, we get another Thirsty Vicaro, you get another postgame, we get another opportunity to sit down, do some strategy and matchups and shit. Like, this is what it's all about. It feels good, you know. So enjoy it, but at the same time, we got a game Saturday, and that's the only thing that matters. First pitch Saturday, and I'll be back tomorrow. I'll be back before obviously well before that game, long before the game, we'll say 32 hours before first pitch, with much more intelligent. This is what I think. And again, not taking a victory.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no, more intelligent, more intelligent conversation. 1000%.

SPEAKER_00:

It's uh it's good to see you, Mahoney. And obviously, thanks again to Monday Morning Manaics. Throw a five star on this if you get a chance. Share it with the loved one in the uh in the meantime, Go Cups.