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SPEAKER_00

I still hate this fucking thing. I would never like that. I fucking hate it. Like this is torture to the ears. That's that's that's that's that's all I could tolerate. I I I I just I can't. I can't. First of all, welcome back to the Medalin podcast. It's been so long since I recorded. It felt like years. Well, it's been a while because well, first of all, Mike's here with me. But what was the last um last year? Beyond last year, because when did when did you move here? October. So it was between October and 7th. Yeah. Well, first of all, before we get started, um, I'm gonna shout out this black-owned nail salon. It's called B Nails. It's in Atlanta. Um 3341 MLK Junior Drive. Um, and that's in Atlanta, Georgia. Um, and she actually hired a nail tax. I looked at her work on Instagram. Her work looks really nice. I'm gonna drive out there one day and get my nails done. I kind of want to get mine done. You need to. You never had your nails done? No. Why? You never had a uh manicure or a pedicure? Nope. Oh, bitch, them things is rough. My my hands? You hear them feet too. I chose on a regular. You at least gotta go once a month. Listen, listen. Let's chill out on me, okay?

unknown

It'd be a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, let me tell you something. It actually be a lot of straight men in the nose line getting their feet done. Oh, it's not. I can believe it. Yeah. It's maintenance. Everybody needs to maintain soft and short skin. Somebody, I know another guy.

SPEAKER_01

I did one when I worked at State Farm. That was that was some years ago. State Farm Arena or insurance? State Farm Insurance. Oh.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna say, bitch, I didn't know you worked in the arena.

SPEAKER_01

No, I worked that right there, bro. Over here checking tickets. Um I was about to say something. Thank you. We're recording.

SPEAKER_00

So thank you. But let's get into it. So, first of all, we're gonna kick this shit off. You we're gonna talk about the verses or the housewives first. Which way are we gonna go with this? Let's talk about versus since this is most recent. Now, first of all, I honestly forgot versus was going to happen. I just happened to be sitting at the desk at work and I went to put my AirPods in, and I'm like Versus. I have forgot. So when I put it on, um B2K was just coming out. First of all, when it was announced, I already thought Pretty Ricky was gonna win. Um I was never really a B2K fan. They had some cute little songs, but Pretty Ricky were adults.

SPEAKER_01

I did get put on to some some new songs that I never heard from B2K that are really good.

SPEAKER_00

First of all, they didn't even know what they were singing. You seen that one song Marion or Marion didn't even know the words.

SPEAKER_01

He didn't know.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, what is happening here? Okay, let's let's get into the fashions because a mess. A mess. Pretty Ricky look horrible, but they're also from Florida. That's how they dress. The blue. Now who told him to put that big ass red suit on? Looking like Rick Ross. Bit the boss. I don't think he's the boss. They came out there. I said, I know you fucking lying. He had his titties all out. I know you fucking lying. They looked well, spectacularly look good. And then he took his shirt off. He still looks the same. Okay, he was all of them look the same though in the face. Like facial-wise, they also look the same. All of them, B2K and Pretty Ricky. Um, Pretty Ricky just the weight got them the best of them.

SPEAKER_01

See, Pleasure P. I couldn't take him seriously because he was singing that love song, and then the outfit, it just like looked like you belonged on Amtrak track.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it would have looked different, maybe it would have looked better if it was in a different color. The belly, the it looked plastic. It was a mess. I don't it's no way around it. I mean, B2K fashion wasn't great neither, but well, but it was better. I mean, the bitches in the audience look better than the pretty Ricky. They was just terrible. And I was like, where's Slickerman? Somebody told me on Twitter he's still on drugs.

SPEAKER_01

I don't like it the verses, felt rushed. Like, you know, when we had who you had, Tankin'? I didn't watch that one. They were in between giving dialogue. I just felt like the songs was backed, backed, backed, backed.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like I just said this on Twitter earlier or X, whatever the fuck it's supposed to be called. I feel like verses went from hit for hit for hit to oh, let's play some. I don't mind like um album cut here and there, but verses are supposed to be hit songs. Like Brandy and Monica, they play like one or two album cuts. Yeah. You knew everything else. So it's like, I mean, I get it's for the fans, okay, but whatever. But some shit is like, bitch, the mass majority don't know this. And what's crazy is I feel like even though B2K had that bigger success, I always felt like Pretty Ricky was a better group.

SPEAKER_01

So I was just about to say that. I think the problem is with this versus is that both groups don't have a lot of songs that actually charted.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Pretty Ricky only had, I think, three songs on the chart. Which was probably what, on the hotline was number one. Well, well, not on Billboard, but it went number one somewhere. Not on Billboard Hot 100.

SPEAKER_01

Um uh the follow-up song with Sean Paul.

SPEAKER_00

Let me see. Because I actually looked it up the other day because I said, well, what are we doing here? But let's look them up. Pretty Ricking. Let's see what Wiki says about their. No, I didn't go to Wiki. I went straight to Billboard. Their billboard chill. I went straight to Billboard. I went to the source. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_01

Let's not talk about Billboard.

SPEAKER_00

Don't get me started on that. Because that's another cursing out for another day. So Billboard has zero number one hits, three songs that charter, and only one went top ten. Grind on me, which was their first song, went number seven. It was on the chart for 22 weeks. Your body, which was the follow-up for Grind on Me, went um, see, he's not credited on this one. It went number 12 and chartered for 20 weeks. On a hot line went number 12 and was on the chart for 19 weeks. Now let's look up B2K. I think B2K actually had a number one record, if I'm not mistaken. Um I think bump bump bump went number one, right? Let's see. Yeah, they actually had a number one. Now only seven of their songs charted, and they only had one top ten. So bump bump, yeah, bump bump bump went number one for one week.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

Um, girlfriend charted, gotta be, gotta be. Oh, that's it. Gotta be, gotta be, we gotta be. Did they sing that? I don't know. I was drunk last time. Um, what's the other two? Uh-huh. Bada boom. I do not remember that song.

SPEAKER_01

Bada boom, was that from You Got Served? Was that on the You Got Served side?

SPEAKER_00

Please don't get me started on that. Why I Love You and Feelin' Freaky. I don't know that song.

SPEAKER_01

Never knew Why I Love You.

SPEAKER_00

Um, B2K was up there talking like they big shit. Y'all only had four more songs chart than. I mean, granted, y'all did have one go number one. What about their album sales? Who sold the most albums? Yeah. I'm almost certain B2K did.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's true, because Pretty Ricky only had what, two albums?

SPEAKER_00

Two albums. No, they had three. The other one didn't have um Pleasure P on there. Remember they released the album without Pleasure P.

SPEAKER_01

Who? Oh, I forgot they had a different member in the group.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Let's see, since you went to the city. Where is he at?

SPEAKER_01

He was cute.

SPEAKER_00

It's chocolate. What was his name? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

He wasn't invited either. But they remade um because I like that song that they remade by a popular group from back in the day.

SPEAKER_00

It doesn't have numbers, but it just says B2K significantly out so pretty Ricky. Okay. But it also said they had a major label back in. Either way, the verses itself was just, it was a it was a lot going on. It was at times very chaotic. Uh vocalists. Let me tell you something. I'm going to say this, and I said this on Twitter, and a lot of people liked and re-shared it. I hate everybody that made O'Marion think he was a vocalist. I hate you, motherfuckers, and I hope y'all learned your lesson. Because once again, you already embarrassed yourself with Mario in that versus.

SPEAKER_01

He wasn't even singing a cappella.

SPEAKER_00

But when he did, he did. That voice still sounds the same. Now, we already got a lot of shit going on in the world. Gas prices through the roof, eggs is $14. I don't need y'all telling Omarion to get up on that fucking stage and sing a cappella. I was having a rough fucking day at work. You want me to listen to that shit too? Oh no. Oh fucking no. And then he had her to do it. I said, here we go.

SPEAKER_01

So with the versus, they did post who would you like and what RB girls would you like to do a versus? So who would you who would you think would go ahead to have?

SPEAKER_00

Well, remember, they already did SWV and Escape. Well, first of all, before I get there, did you see they said Pretty Ricky won 18-0? It was a poll online. I forgot. And they they do it every versus.

SPEAKER_01

Billboard hasn't put out their thing yet, who do you think one versus, but well, I think pretty Ricky won, but I don't think it was 18 to 0.

SPEAKER_00

I just feel like at 35, B2K music does not appeal to me anymore. You will hear a pretty Ricky song in the club before you hear B2K song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that that is very true.

SPEAKER_00

Like they made very teenager appropriate music. Like B2K. Okay. Pretty rich will be talking about fucking getting what? Well, what? How old was you when you were listening to that out? I'm gonna sue my fucking mother for letting me listen to that kind of music.

SPEAKER_01

Because girl, why would you ever I think I was was it we were talking about it how our parents' music, we can sing it and not know what they're talking about? Like Janet Jackson offer you. See, I was singing that song.

SPEAKER_00

The difference is when it comes to males and females, females are more central and you gotta listen to the wordplay of their music. Niggas is just straight out saying I'm gonna beat the pussy up. Like, come you can't say that in like a more central way to where like children could be singing it and not really know what's going on. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of songs back then that we just did not know what was going on. Like again, Janet Jackson.

SPEAKER_01

I thought All For You was a party song. Come to find out, she was talking about it.

SPEAKER_00

The whole fucking album. This is nothing new, but you get what I'm saying? It's the wordplay, and that song is very get you upbeat, like it's happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was in the backseat of the car at 12 years old. Chick wanna do.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

Up in Jersey.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like Pretty Ricky would have had a better chance to get against Jody C because they was a freaky ass group, too. That would have been a better, a better combo. New versus old. Y'all both got a lot of I don't know. Bitch, somebody said B2K should have gone against the Cheetah Girls. I fucking hit the for lore. Like Twitter was just a mess that night. I was there for it.

SPEAKER_01

What do you think about Omarion releasing his EP and the group song? Oh, he did. He did. The EP got released Friday. Did the group song come out? No. You made that. The album is called O2. I didn't even have no, he had an O one. That's the first album. His first album called Oh. Oh, it is. Dang. Hold on. I didn't listen to the album. I just like two songs.

SPEAKER_00

Bitch, I know you lying. Hold on.

SPEAKER_01

It's a seven-song track. Um EP. He's gonna listen to that shit. Omarion.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, bitch, I know you lying. The song really not out here.

SPEAKER_01

Mind you, the new song I actually like. I felt the vibe. Let's go to Omarion.

SPEAKER_00

This is one messy bitch. You know what? And I said this on Twitter too. I said this on Twitter. This shit like this makes me love and appreciate Beyonce even more because she takes her platform and shares it with Kelly and Michelle every chance she fucking gets. Like she's one of the biggest stars in the world. I feel like this was a moment, even during the verses, people kept telling Omar, it's not about you. Like it's not about you. Stop trying to take every moment and make it about you. Because for you to say, oh, well, y'all wouldn't have been on tour if it wasn't for us. Oh, Marion, you wouldn't have been on tour if it wasn't for the group because you couldn't sell a motherfucking ticket if you tried by yourself. And let's let's take it a step further. You also need a Bow Wow. None of y'all will sell out arenas on your own. Let's call it a spade a spade. Y'all will be in fucking theaters. Y'all will not sell out arenas on your own. I feel like he's too cocky and it's very annoying because you're not that guy. You weren't that fucking guy when you were out. Mario was dragging you on the charts when y'all both was out around the same time. Because Let Me Love You actually went over one for several weeks. Alicia Keys wrote the shit out that song, by the way. Um, Mario was whacking niggas upside the head. Yeah. Chris Brown came whacking you upside the head. So it was like you were never what you think you were. And then for you to take this moment and still still the shine from your group, and then, oh, we're gonna drop this song at midnight only for it to be fucking Saturday and the song's still not there, but you got an EP out, that's selfishness. And that's why you never took off like you should have. Furthermore, outside of dancing, the vocals were never vocing. He sounds like me in the shower. And that ain't no compliment. It's not a compliment to me, and it damn sure ain't one to him. If you give me a mic and give him a mic, we're gonna sound the same. Bitch, they're gonna think we twins.

SPEAKER_01

And it'll make it so bad, he posted uh a thank you post, I think today or yesterday. And at the end of the post, he plugged his album. Selfish.

SPEAKER_00

Selfish. We had Beyonce done shared the Super Bowl with Destiny Shop. She done shared um Coachella with them, she done brought them to her cowboy cartour inside of a stadium. So for you to be in a venue, you're probably in a theater there. For you to be in a little event space, acting this crazy, is beyond me. It's beyond me. But like Spectacular said, this why your group won't break up again.

SPEAKER_01

Well hell, I would have been cursed his ass out if I saw he dropped his EP.

SPEAKER_00

I would have beat shit down his leg. Because where's the song? Now mind you, the song sounds nice, but who's sucking for a B2K song? Who's checking for Omarion in 2026? I didn't even know the fucking EP came out until you just told me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that it did.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Like overall, I feel like I feel like B2K was just doing too much entirely. And Diamond was doing too much entirely. You know what? B2K would have been better off against day 26. Well, they don't have no hits, so let me take that back. I love day Day 26 would have won too. Against B2K, I don't see it. Well, maybe because I listened to them a lot. B2K radio songs would have just washed them down the street. I don't know, not one day 26 song.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

Other than the one they song at the Making a Band reunion when where um Mr. Oil had them performing and shit like that.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

I wasn't I could never get into day 26, even though I'm making a band, I can never get into them. I uh if you know how they say it's um what's the one I used to go with Dawn? Q I did like him.

SPEAKER_01

I love their song together. I like it. I wish we were gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00

I liked Willie until he got in love and hip hop, then it just made me look at him different. But there's only one song I listened to, his solo. Who? Willie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, he got a solo career? He got a solo song. Oh, yeah. It's a very good song. You should listen to it's it's a love song. I I won't, but okay. But um, I know a good amount of day 26 songs. I know nothing about day 26. Like how many albums they got? Two. Okay. Well, three. The third one is independent because they just got back together. Um, it's recent. Yeah. All of them? They did yeah, all back together. They be touring. They did they did a tour. But y'all know you lying. They did. What did it do?

SPEAKER_00

The winery.

SPEAKER_01

Um you ain't gone. Nope. Well, at least everybody in the group can sing.

SPEAKER_03

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you do have a point there. Because you do have a point there. But pretty Ricky only has one singer, three rappers. Pretty Ricky's not a singing group. That's another reason I didn't get the dynamic. Well, it wasn't a lot of rap male groups.

SPEAKER_01

Would you call spectacular rapper?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, but the way he was humping on that lady on stage, I said he would not, I would have pushed him off. Like, what do we do? He's married.

unknown

I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00

Humping on that lady like that. He still looked good though. Yeah. And I love how he kept himself financially stable. And he's a heal gets y'all about say he gets fucking money. He gets, I think he does like Bitcoins or some shit like that. I know he does something like trades and stuff like that. It's legal. He's not, you know, but I can get these draws. I don't even like light skinned men, but who do you think won overall? I feel like Pretty Ricky. I knew more of Pretty Ricky songs. The few that I didn't know when I listened to them in the car, is like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's obvious Pretty Ricky won. I just they could have had different acts.

SPEAKER_00

Somebody would say, but even at O'Marian, you lost the end of the battle when you were trying to go solo against Pretty.

SPEAKER_01

His ass is on a damn DJ, the damn stand singing.

SPEAKER_00

Singing, oh my God. When he starts singing oh and try to hit that note, I say, here we go. Only for pleasure if he didn't come out there and murk his ass. What did he sing? Did you wrong? Did you wrong? That's my shit. Him and the crowd sang Did You Wrong. That's my shit.

SPEAKER_01

I ain't heartbroken, but I'll be heartbroken when I sang that song.

SPEAKER_00

My shit is under. Let's go under. It's a um I'll play it after this. I know I I Boyfriend Number Two. I was like, I don't really think number two. I listened to it, but I wasn't really a fan. I love the song. Oh, I gotta. Um. But back to answer your question, what girl group? I don't know because who is even out that would do it versus that's female? I don't think nobody. I mean, I don't think there's no other female groups that can go against each other, like, oh. I mean, outside of the obvious Destiny Child and TS. What about us? But it's just like they're just so different on spectrums. But that might be good though, because they both have a lot of hits. They both are very successful. They both have been like back and forth like who's the best selling. But it's like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Now that I'm thinking about it, the last the last females that we had was Keisha Cole and Ashanti.

SPEAKER_02

No. SWV, no. Who's after them?

SPEAKER_00

SWV and Candy, no. No, I lied again. Remember Padily Bell and um I didn't watch it, but it just popped in my head that they did it. I wasn't watching that shit. Hmm.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Who do you think Sierra would go against? Because I saw a lot of people in that versus comments naming Sierra.

SPEAKER_00

Sierra, I don't think Sierra would be able to do a versus because there's nobody that she could really do one with. Like, I feel like if you think about Rihanna, it would have to be Beyonce. Like Sierra has no counterpart. Like her and Rihanna came out, but success-wise, you would pit her further more against Beyonce. Right. If it was a case, it would have to be them two. It would probably have to be like a Chris Brown or something. Like she definitely couldn't go against another female because she's just like in her own lane with music.

SPEAKER_01

I think Chris Brown and Sierra would have been a dope. I wouldn't even call it a versus.

SPEAKER_00

Just to like a speaking of Chris Brown, how do you feel about like the selective backlash that he gets?

SPEAKER_01

I would agree it seems to only happen when he's about to drop something.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like not even that. I'm just saying in general, like if he's on a track with a female, like when he dropped a song with Chloe, they drug that man forgiven. But when he does a song with Usher, everybody's like, oh. I feel like it's very selective about who he does it with. Yeah. I don't feel like Sierra recorded a lot of backlash with that's how we roll. But I feel like certain females get so much backlash for doing music with him, and other ones don't. In that scenario, it's just like if Rihanna forgave him, move the fuck on. I agree. I personally don't listen to Chris Brown because I don't feel like his he has no musical growth. Like, I feel like I've been listening to the same four albums for the last four albums. Like, there's no artistic growth with him. And I think that's where it stares. Because it's like, what I'm not saying completely go into a different lane, but we gotta do something, buddy. I'm not about to listen to 27 songs and it's one long song. That's fair. I I don't I don't know. I don't listen to no Beyonce album to get the same music. I don't listen to no two Sierra songs to get the same thing. You don't get the same thing if a Rihanna, even Usher, as you you're maturing, your music should mature too. Like it is the same. I think he needs to take a break, give himself about three or four years away from music. You're Chris Brown. You can you can afford to take a few years off.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the way you can do it.

SPEAKER_00

Like you just went on tour last year, now you on tour again. He probably locked into one of them crazy ass live nations. Deals where he gotta keep touring like this. He probably got that Mary J. Blige deal. Well, because my good girl in her boots, she's tired.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you see, she sit there in on her little uh her little throne.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not going to a show because bitch, I didn't come here to sing. I came to see you sing. Don't fucking keep putting that mic out here. Don't do it.

SPEAKER_01

I think he he makes up because I wish. Well, I don't think we will ever see him on a like uh BET. I don't even know why BET don't even put him on award shows, but they post him on their page.

SPEAKER_00

That just Well, he's on tour, so he probably couldn't do that.

SPEAKER_01

But he hasn't performed at the BET Awards and nobody performs at the BET Awards. Well, that's true. Because these did these But Cardi B performing tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00

I saw, but I I can't watch. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

I'll be watching Love Island.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, please. I'll be watching the BET Awards. Um I don't know. I feel like even with Neanderth. It's a lot going over Chris Graham, but I feel like even with the awards shows, I feel like when these celebrities get to a certain stage, they just say, fuck y'all, we not coming. But BET was the first one to give y'all a real platform. And it's just like, I hate that you like the Nicki Minaj, Rihanna, Beyonce, Jay-Z, like when y'all hit this fucking level of fame, y'all just say, fuck the BET Awards. You're not going to the Soul Train, the NAACP, like all these black award shows that y'all don't go to, but you'll show up at the Grammys, you'll show up at the VMAs, you'll show up at the Billboard. It's like, what are we doing here? And then people say, Oh, BET is tired. No, it's tired because our celebrities don't go there. And then I gotta be forced to watch Sexy Red on my TV. That's absolutely fucking crazy, if you ever ask me. She said, I said, who you know it's crazy?

SPEAKER_01

You know, you know the BET Awards is not what it used to be because they have people performing that don't have a song out. Why are you performing? Like BET used to be like a promotional type of thing when an artist had a song out.

SPEAKER_00

Now Because nobody wants to show the fuck up, so you gotta take what you can get.

SPEAKER_01

Why am I listening to an album cut being performed on a BET awards that ain't even a single?

SPEAKER_00

That you're not even making a single. See, don't piss me off. Don't piss me off. Now Cardi be performing. Is Kalani performing tomorrow? I know she nominated for a few. I know Cardi got the most nominations with six.

SPEAKER_01

Don't piss me off about the nominations, because why? Why first of all, remember you remember BET used to only have like three, four people in the each nomination pool? Why is there like six and seven people in one category?

SPEAKER_00

Well, see, I feel like now it's probably a little more because it's more of a variety. Like, I feel like I don't know. Like, I feel like BET needs to play more into those still trying to get into mainstream, like having your mainstream people there. It's just like you when you see certain names, you know they're about to win. It's no shock value in there. I think that's the problem, but not even just BET with all these award shows. Like, it's no real stiff competition. I feel like streaming has just like took over every fucking thing. Yeah. Like Lizzo album just sold 3,000 physical copies, and I don't understand why people were writing articles about that. Chris Brown only sold five. What's the difference? But then you play into these streams and it's like, oh, they sold 42,000 copies. No, they actually didn't. I remember when my favorite artist came out and actually sold 617,000 CDs in a week. Like you had to get your black ass up, go to the store and purchase them. Yeah. Yeah. Streaming what? No. Like, so it's just like that's when competition was real because you knew who was actually moving units opposed to now if you're getting a million and a billion streams, oh, that's the best artist. No, it doesn't because not for nothing. When it came to the Grammys, I don't feel like Folded should have won both of them RB awards. I feel like it should have won one because it did good. But I also feel like Summer Walker deserved that because Heart of a Woman was fucking everywhere when that song came out. And for it to not win nothing only because Folded charted higher was bullshit. And I'm not even a Summer Walker fan, but I definitely do feel like that song deserved at least one of them Grammys. Welcome to the music industry. It's actually crazy. You're talking about Walker like the fuck you in it. I am in it. But you doing what? I'm a singer. Please don't piss me off. Please. Please. Like I feel like Foda got overrated very quick. Um I love that for her, but I also feel like she has better me.

SPEAKER_01

That album was Would you compare that to like Tyler's water song? Because I didn't get into water.

SPEAKER_00

Don't piss me off with her either. Because that's another one.

SPEAKER_01

And then it just kept getting played and played, and I was like, let me listen to this. And then I didn't like Water at all.

SPEAKER_00

I like that push their start song. I hated Water. And my cousin used to play in the bar all the time. Like, girl, if you put this song on again, bitch, I'm a punch of wall. I didn't like water. Um I don't know. When I listened to Kaylani's album, which I don't anymore, um, it wasn't exciting. I like about three songs. You know who had a really good album? Ella May. She just dropped something, I think. LMA had that fucking album. I think she came out with another video for her song on the album. Okay. Um is it a second album? No, LMA got a few albums out. I listened to her periodically, so she came out with an EP, I want to say last year or the year before. It was last year because Little Things is on the EP and it's actually on the album. The album is really good. I love Little Things. The album is really good. Like when I tell you the album is top the bottom RB. Uh Chef's Kiss. I listen to it still. I was actually listening to it earlier before I went to the market. So LMA got my vote. Get that motherfucker agreement. Somebody's son 100. Um Let me look at the playlist because Oh, I like somebody's son too. That's what I'm, you know, that's my shit. You know that is not shit. Y'all need to get into LMA. I'm mad the RB girlies don't be getting no attention. Let me see. There goes my heart. 100, my mind, somebody's son, little things outside is my shit too. Luckiest Man Tell Her First Day Chasing Circles. That motherfucking album is. It blew Kaylani album out the water. I think the only thing that can stand a chance with that is the Brandy track. And I'm biased because Brandy's on this brandy, so oh Lord. You got a problem? Be your biased. I mean, I'm saying Brandy vocals on that track is just like I don't know, next level.

SPEAKER_01

If you had to recommend um a non-mainstream artist that you listen to that nobody knows, who would you recommend? Well, I don't know, because I don't know nobody that I listen to.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, you know what? I got this song that I like on my phone. Um I found it on TikTok actually. Is it AI? Bitch, I hope it's not. I hope it's not. It's called Unknown Caller by Anna Marie. Yeah, it's called Unknown Caller by Anne Marie. I found it on TikTok. Like, and TikTok be a little sketchy. You might hear a chorus or something, and then you hear the whole song, and it's like, what the fuck is going on? But the whole song is very nice. I like that. Um what else I TikTok be having some they do. You know who else just came out with a song that I really like that don't get enough? Um, Tiffany Evans. I love her. She just came out with a song, um, Treat Me Like a Princess.

SPEAKER_01

And it was that the song that uh charted number one on iTunes? Yeah. I love that for her. Yeah. That was her first song to chart on number one iTunes.

SPEAKER_00

Well, treat me like a princess. Oh boy. Oh, that's nice. Y'all hear the vocals. Don't do me. Where's the auto to me? I told you I sound like Omarion. I could have gone up there and took his place.

SPEAKER_01

You sound like more jacket.

SPEAKER_00

Do you listen to any of the baddies music?

SPEAKER_01

No. Oh, I do like Biggie's song. Fuck Biggie, but what's the song? Wow. The one that she uh filmed in her country. The one with Tosekee? No. The one that she filmed solo in her country. I don't, I don't, I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_00

Isn't she from like Puerto Rico? Ain't she from Puerto Rico?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Ain't that in America? It's part of I'm just asking. Um, I like Tseki's song F F, I think that's what it's called.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's uh I that's the only song I probably listen from her. I don't listen to anybody else.

SPEAKER_00

Rolly got some good music. I like fuck Dolly, they wanna fuck Dolly, they wanna. Now, Natalie Nunn, her songs are actually catchy. I I'll give her that. Her fucking that bitch is a psycho, but you know. Let's not get into Natalie. Let's not. Bodega Baddie. Somebody said the name of the song was Bodega Baddie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yes, yes, it is. Bodega Baddie. I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Let me see.

SPEAKER_01

Bodega baddie.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, is it? I don't know. I'm about to look it up.

SPEAKER_01

Then I started singing Cardi B.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was about to say, I I thought of Cardi there. Bodega baddie popped right up, dog. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

They said I'm blocked for 10 minutes. What'd I do? I ain't even do nothing yet. I don't know. Let me see.

SPEAKER_00

Um Big Dominicon. I don't know. Um a lot of them girls just be in the studio wasting time. Somebody asked Scotty, was she recorded a song? She said, no, I'm not gonna go in there and play in them people's studio.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, that's just like love and hip hop. You saw them in the studio and they never released the song.

SPEAKER_00

Think God That Show finally got canceled. I mean God That Show finally got canceled.

SPEAKER_01

K Michelle was probably the only one that actually You're right, wrong artists.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, they said you're right, that's Cardi B. He was thinking about not Biggie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so Biggie. I'm trying to see.

SPEAKER_00

So I what I was about to say, I was about to say to my love. Oh, Love and Hip Hop finally getting canceled. It took long enough. That shit should have been canceled because she's from the DR. Who from the DR? I don't give a fuck about Biggie. It's called I don't give a fuck where she's from, quite frankly. Tatille? I don't know. But it's a good song. The Cynthia. I'm on my daughter's TikTok. Okay, hey girl. What's going on? I'm over here recording my podcast, honey. Um, I was about to say, Oh, Love and Hip Hop. That's what I was talking about. So, did you see where Chaotic was saying he left the show pretty much because him and Scrappy made up like after the season ended, but when it came back, they wanted him to beef again. And he, like, why? Like, what the fuck are we about to be for now? It was the same storylines for every city. Like, it you everybody don't got the same thing going on. Like, what the fuck is happening here? What was your favorite franchise out of all of it? Originally was New York. Because New York used to get that shit cracking over there. Um, when it was Jim Jones, what's what was his wife's name? Uh uh Chrissy. Chrissy. Remember she punched a girl in her face? Kimbella. Kimbella knocked that bitch across the room. That's when it was like good because like shit seemed real. Atlanta in the beginning when Jocelyn and them first came around was like very interesting. That whole dynamics. That storyline was very believable because I remember Eve talking about how she used to mess with Stevie J. And I think Stevie J started messing with Mimi when he was messing with Eve. So that whole love triangle was very believable. But it's like you go to all these cities and everybody's in a love triangle. Now, the Kurt Frall shit, that was too messy. I don't understand how Rashida still stands by her man. Shorty Love. What do you think about Love and Hip Hop Hollywood? I didn't really, I never really got into them. Is that the moment like Ray J and Sierra Marie? Lil Fizz. I never really got into that one too much. I don't know what, I don't know why. I just couldn't. Kate Michelle was on there. She was on all of them. Was she in Miami? No. Okay. Well, she wasn't in the middle. She was only in Hollywood and Atlanta. I never really got in. I don't know what it was about Hollywood. I I think by the time Hollywood started coming out, it was just like I was just over it. Because once again, you get put here and it's the same shit. Outside of the Tierra mystery and the sex tape thing, everything else was like bullshit, it felt like. Like everything else felt like it was produced where that was like real shit. Because remember they were really going through the lawsuit and all that. Everything else, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Moments got is that when Tierra was dating a guy who had a secret secret wife or something? The ball hair guy.

SPEAKER_00

And he no, he was dating a bald hair girl or something like that. Oh no, that's when he was remember that she showed up at his house with Paris. Yeah, and they was fighting and they was all trying to fight. Yeah. Child. I don't know. Miami was good. I've never watched one episode of Miami.

SPEAKER_01

Miami was good the first two seasons.

SPEAKER_00

I've seen clips on social media, but I've never actually watched a full episode of um Miami. I don't understand. Trina, you're Trina. Why the fuck are you on Love and Hip Hop Girl? I I can understand if they brought her in like to try to solidify the show, but I don't understand why you stuck around.

SPEAKER_01

Like what's the girl in it? Amara. Amara.

SPEAKER_00

Is that the black girl? Is that the African or something like that? She's very pretty. I don't know where her nationality is, but she's that fucking skin. Oh my god. Speaking of.

SPEAKER_01

Her skin is beautiful. She fumbled because she had a song that she played first season. First off, let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_00

The only people that use that platform correctly was Cardi B and Kate Michelle. That's it. Other people just went on there and just wasted them people's time. It's actually this guy from Philly, his name Artie. Um, he was on here talking about he took off on TikTok actually. And he was talking about how they flew him out and they was they wanted him to come on and talking about how they was going to introduce him. He said they wasn't paying him enough, but the show wound up getting canceled, so you know, they didn't offer him enough, but they was gonna fly him out, they would have had him like uh a rental space for him to refill in every weekend, um, and then fly him back. And he would just fly out on the weekends to film, be with the cast, stuff like that. I don't know. I mean, he said they wasn't solving enough numbers for him. So let me ask you if a TV show reached out to you, what do you feel like is a significant amount of money to say, okay, I can do this?

SPEAKER_02

It gotta be six figures.

SPEAKER_00

Obviously. I don't know. I don't know, you pull me in. It is it gotta be at least I'm gonna say it gotta be at least twice the more than I make myself going to work. Cause I'm I'm just at the six-figure mark. So it gotta be at least.

SPEAKER_01

So did you see yourself on TV and everything that comes with being on the TV?

SPEAKER_00

The way things fly out of my mouth, I think I would make good TV. I think and you I'm I don't even know what I'm gonna do and what I'm gonna say. So I think I would make good TV. But the thing is, I don't want I would be more so like online looking at commas and shit like that. I can see that. I'll be looking, oh my god. I probably wouldn't care that I gotta argue with everybody. You know I'm gonna respond. But bitch, fight me. Bitch, that's just fight me. Like, get this. I don't know. You would be a liability to the network. Well, well, well, well.

SPEAKER_01

You would be like Candace from Potomac. You bring it, I'm gonna give it. You'll be don't start with me, and I won't fuck with you. Right? Yes. Speaking of Candace, how do you feel about her and Ashley communicating again?

SPEAKER_00

They talk again because last time I heard they was gangborn again. Yeah. It's not gonna last long. It's not gonna last long. It's Ashley Darby we're talking about. It's not gonna last long.

SPEAKER_01

She also said she's talking about Wendy, which is crazy. She hasn't talked to Wendy since the situation happened. Because she wants to give Wendy her space.

SPEAKER_00

I agree with that. Because I feel like if we're if we're also only on like a text here and there basis, I don't want to feel like I'm overdoing it because now you're going through all this. Now all of a sudden, you know what I'm saying, want to keep reaching out to you. And then my thing is I just feel like Wendy's still filming the show, so clearly she's faking it till she makes it. But you think my girl is going to jail? The icemaker and golf all fucking night.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I'd rather not speak about that.

SPEAKER_00

Bitch, ain't like you got nothing. You think she going to jail?

SPEAKER_01

The feds might be watching.

SPEAKER_00

Please. Wendy, honey, blame it on Eddie. Blame it on your mother. Blame it on your mother with that pushback ass wig. Because I don't like her. The way she was talking to Wendy in that living room, in that kitchen.

SPEAKER_01

Oh. Her mother cursed her ass out. Ugly. Um, this case doesn't make any sense to me. It doesn't make sense that they did it or that they got caught. Well, it's a lot of things that don't make sense because why are you naming these nicknames? Why are you sending text on your phone? Pam Oliver.

SPEAKER_00

You couldn't come up with a better name than that.

SPEAKER_01

Like, you can get a burner phone. You're using your own email address.

SPEAKER_00

The doctor with five degrees.

SPEAKER_01

It just doesn't make sense. And Eddie's a lawyer.

SPEAKER_00

It doesn't make it. Bitch. I'm ready for Potoma to come back down. How do you feel about Robin coming back? She could have stayed under the rock she was under.

SPEAKER_01

I think I I will say, I think I can't wait to see her and Karen's dynamic.

SPEAKER_00

She's gonna make Karen work because you know she don't give a fuck about Karen. That's why I You know she don't care. Now Karen's gonna curse her ass out. Robin don't care. And that's the thing. I don't now the thing is I'm not a Robin fan because I feel like she brings nothing to the show. Like she's bland, she's just she's just there. But as a friend, she's about to make Karen's ass work. I think the friendly everybody is gonna tread lightly with Karen. Yeah. Now I do agree with Giselle where she thinks Andy took it lightly because a lot of stuff still didn't make sense after the interview. Robin don't give a fuck. You can curse her out from the sun up to the sundown. She, once you finish cursing her out, she's gonna ask the next question because she don't fucking care. Yeah, and she don't like Karen. So that's all the more ammunition that she's going running down. I think a friend rule might fit her better. It fits with we don't gotta we don't give a fuck about Wan. Wine don't give a fuck about Robin. So therefore, we don't even gotta worry about that dynamic, but it's about to get activated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I will say one thing about Ramen. She her personal story was good first season, but after that, it was like It was the same thing. Same thing. But in her scenes with like Karen, even Monique, even Wendy, would you see what she said on the couch? I don't think Monique coming back. Monique, Monique, she's coming back. She's still a friend? She she activates the people in scene. Outside of the city.

SPEAKER_00

So now that Robin's back, they said Giselle and Wendy done fell back out, which we seen that coming a mile away.

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah. And then Wendy then gave Giselle something to talk about, this damn case.

SPEAKER_00

She gave them all something to talk about.

SPEAKER_01

One thing about Giselle, she don't give a fuck either.

SPEAKER_00

But I do, I don't know. Like, I can't wait to see it. Yeah. I think I think how special. I think it's gonna be funny though when they do BravoCon because now Kate Michelle, Nene, and all of them are gonna be in this. Nene might be at BravoCon. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

But you know For the 20th anniversary thing.

SPEAKER_00

You know, Kate Michelle had the little, remember they saw the little slick comment about her, how they running out of people in Atlanta when they brought her on. So they're gonna be all at BravoCon. So I can't wait to see that.

SPEAKER_01

I think that comment was It's Kate Michelle we're talking about. It wasn't a bad comment. Neither Giselle or they were just saying back in the day, Bravo didn't want VH1 stars.

SPEAKER_00

But now look, you got a house bar on Love and Hip Hop. Yeah. So it goes to show. Like, are y'all really running out of people? It's are y'all running out of people, or it's like people just don't want to deal with the bullshit.

SPEAKER_01

I think people don't want to people don't want to be on reality TV. It's it's hard to find.

SPEAKER_00

I don't, I feel like if reality TV wasn't so produced nowadays, it would be better. Like I feel like back when Housewives first came out, like the Kimaninis, that was like real beef. Like they were like real life gangrene. Them bitches was crazy. She by She by Sharon. The Candies, like, they were like real life going through stuff. And now it's just everything is so forced and so produced. And yeah, like I remember Carlos King told them, like, we're not leaving until we get a scene. Like we have to. Like, don't force, don't force it. Like, if it's going to happen, it's gonna happen. You're not gonna force me to talk to a bitch that I don't want to talk to.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of um candy, you know, I was just thinking about like I You know how Bravo always say um they always bring up Beverly Hills's as far as like iconic dinner scenes, dinner table scenes. I think season nine when they were in Hawaii, that dinner table scene with uh Alana when when they were when she stood up and was like Phaedra, you know I don't you know I do I do I think that that a lot that is up there with Beverly Hills dinner table scenes but it don't get talked about Beverly Hills Let me tell you Phaedra does not need the fuck to come back unless Candy coming back because I feel like that conversation needs to be had.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. If Candy not coming back next season, Phaedra needs to go. She bore absolutely nothing. She went from married to medicine and she did nothing over there. I don't recall any of her solo scenes. Only solo scene I remember is somebody was having an event and she couldn't go because one of the kids fractured his ankle or something, they was in the ER. Um, Mr. President, the oldest one. He was playing football, I believe, and fractured his ankle and she couldn't go to the event um because she was in the ER with him, obviously. But I Phaedra brought nothing.

SPEAKER_01

All she did was bring the many faces that she makes in her confession.

SPEAKER_00

Now, since we on Atlanta, let's talk about these girls, honey. Let me cut these potatoes off real quick. Let me need this. Yeah. I told you, guys, get it up. I like the line and everything. Now back to the Atlanta girls. I do feel like it's a good season, though. Yes. Basketball-wise. Oh, I forgot about basketball-wise.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so really quick on basketball-wise, I think they should have had a final season.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think they did because of that the way that shit ended.

SPEAKER_01

How did it end?

SPEAKER_00

With Shawnee, not Shawnee, with um Jackie and her daughter fighting.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I was on Jackie's side that whole season.

SPEAKER_00

I was I was on Jackie's, but see, I was on Jackie's side because we're actually seeing it. I think when the girls were in it, you know, her daughter was just taking bits and pieces back. I also felt like Shawnee brought that girl on it to be messy because you already knew their relationship was wishy-washy. That's been known for years. You brought her on her to be messy, and this was the outcome, and now the show was canceled. That's absolutely crazy. That's absolutely crazy. I do agree with Jackie. Like, stop bringing this stuff to TV. Let's talk about this behind. Like, one thing about Jackie, she never talked crazy about her daughter on that TV show. She might have talked about how their relationship isn't the greatest, this and the third, but she never dove too much into her personal life with her daughter. For her daughter to come on here and start like bringing stuff out about their relationship. I just felt like that was 100% wrong because you don't know these girls, they're not your friend. This is this is fucking nationwide TV. Leave that shit at home. She deserved that rocking that Jackie gave her, okay? Yeah. She should have beat her the fuck up a little more if you was an ex-Men.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's also confusing because they had to sit down in season two of Basketball Wise. It was delightful.

SPEAKER_00

I just feel like this is was just something. What's her daughter's name? Shawnee or something like that? Chantel. Chantel. Yeah. I just feel like that was a reason for her to get on there and be angry with Jackie because even at the beginning, it was like, oh, you live in the same building, you don't really come up. You were just fishing for reasons for her to be upset. And then you had, what was the little part-time Muslim girl? Because now she's Muslim. What was her name? Brittany. You had her little messy ass who got on the fucking worldwide internet and said she would never come back on basketball-wise to send her third. But the check must have been good because you came back. You could have kept that bullshit where it was. Because I agree with Evelyn. Now you Muslim and you want to be all uppity and better than everybody, but you still doing the same shit that you was doing. I don't understand why they kept bringing Evelyn back. Basketball-wise, been for when Timmy left, I left. I haven't watched up. Well, I did watch this last season because when I seen Chantel was getting rocked upside the head in a trailer, I had to watch.

SPEAKER_01

No, this last season was a great season. That's why I don't understand why they're not.

SPEAKER_00

I don't understand the Jen and Evelyn dynamics. Like, I don't, I think that was annoying because it's like, Evelyn, why are you so upset? If this, if you get in a relationship with a man that's a scam artist, that is your business. I'm gonna voice my opinion once, maybe twice, but after a while, I'm gonna shut the fuck up and mind my business. You get scammed, but bitch, I don't got no room for you to come here when you fucking go poor. Because I told you that motherfucker was gonna scam you.

SPEAKER_01

You didn't listen. Speaking of Jim, why is she in a club dropping it like it's hot and can't get back up? Jim. They said Jim Broft stink. Oh Lord. That whole cast was just a mess. Do you think, do you think they should have kept my well my okay, so which which out of Miami, Orlando, and LA, which I never watched Orlando. Well, they only had one season. There goes that. Um they was turned. Think of LA season one with the Malaysia fight.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I don't know if I like Miami or LA more because they both wore something different. Like you, you had a little bit of the craziness, you had a little bit like the dynamics was good. Drea was good TV on basketball. Drea from Philly. She Drea. She married that young man. They hated Drea Jen is a dummy. They hated Drea because she was young and pretty. I don't give a fuck what nobody said. They had no real reasons not. Remember she punched that lady Sunday in her face? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that season was lit. And then when they went to London, rocked her shit. That London cash trip was was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

See, that's when TV was good. That London cash trip. That's when TV was good. You getting punched in the face and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, remember when they fought on the beach? Who fought? Or no, not fought. Uh Tammy was about to fight.

SPEAKER_00

How did you feel about Brandy?

SPEAKER_01

Her story was good when she first came on. I don't, I don't remember her second season. What did she do? The second no season three, she was good. That was when she first came on. Uh was season four when Tammy came on?

SPEAKER_00

No, Tammy was one before her.

SPEAKER_01

No, as far as LA. Because remember, Tammy was like.

SPEAKER_00

I think so, yeah. That's when they all came over there. Yeah. Susie was good TV though. I like Susie. Susie was funny as shit. Because Susie used to get cursed the fuck out of acting like she ain't know what's going on. Susie, you started all this.

SPEAKER_01

So did you like uh Miami season five when uh when I don't even know in the seasons who's on tell me the castes, then I can tell you uh when when when Tammy was like, put your hand up again, Evelyn. Put your hand up again.

SPEAKER_00

I like anytime she cursed Evelyn out. In any season, I loved it.

SPEAKER_01

That was that was the season after Evelyn, after the situation with Chad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I love any season where Tammy was cussing Evelyn out. Because I think she deserved it every time she got it. Because Evelyn was a mean girl, and I felt like Tammy was the only one that could take it there with her. Oh, her and Royce, because you know Royce ain't played with them neither. Royce ain't man, Royce don't play. You know what's even funnier about the Jen and Evelyn dynamics? I've never felt bad during a breakup. No. I never felt bad for Jen because Jen, everything Evelyn's doing to you, this is what y'all used to do together to other women. You don't like it now that you're getting a lashing. What did they fall out for?

SPEAKER_01

Somebody said podcasting without me. Who that?

SPEAKER_00

Where you at? I'm reading your comments. Oh. Oh, you wanna. I didn't even know you was up there. Um y'all made me forget what I was about to say. Oh, Jen, she got everything she deserved from Evelyn. They did Roy, they used to do Royce so dirty. And Royce was with the shit every time.

SPEAKER_01

So girl Mika Claxton. Oh, Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. Tammy ate her up at that reunion.

SPEAKER_00

They all did. She came there unprepared, unseasoned, and everything. Mia liar claxton. Yeah, that's her name. With that damn wig on. Then what was the other one? Who purchased that she took? Oh, Keisha. Was Keisha the crazy one? No, Keisha was the crazy one. Keisha was the crazy one.

SPEAKER_01

Uh it was the it was the mixed one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The scary one.

SPEAKER_01

Keisha, Keisha was a she she crazy as hell. Oh, Keisha. Shut up, shut up. Didn't Keisha, Keisha and Susie fought. On the season five.

SPEAKER_00

Susie. Oh, that was a was that the white girl? Yeah. Oh no, I'm thinking about who the other white girl did they brought in? Somebody poured water on her at the reunion. Oh, first season.

SPEAKER_01

I forgot her name. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. That was first season.

SPEAKER_00

Chow. Yeah. But basketball-wise was basketball-wise started to fizzle, dude. Like, I want to know who won the fight between Jackie and Brooke. They said Brooke wore Jackie's ass out though, but they said Jackie kept up. Jackie looked like she can fight. Jackie was trying to fight men down there in Middle Square Garden when they were trying to fuck with Doug. I will call that bitch in a minute if I got to tussle with somebody. Jackie looked like she get busy. She looked like she get busy and don't give a fuck what's going on.

SPEAKER_01

What do you think about Bambi on basketball?

SPEAKER_00

Bambi could have stayed where she was at. Bambi could have stayed where she was at. The BAM. We didn't need the BAM. She didn't go to Nothing Hip Hop neither. What that was Malaysia's best friend, I believe.

SPEAKER_01

I think they only brought up because Malaysia needed somebody for that season.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. But Malaysia wasn't good TV neither. That's why when Carlos King tried to create that show around her, it flopped. Like Malaysia wasn't good. Malaysia was very, she had a dull personality. Yeah. Pretty girl, cute gowns, dull personality. That's Laquecia. Do you see what I mean? Her name is Laquecia. Well, ain't she from Compton? Compton. That bitch eats bullets for breakfast. I wouldn't argue with her neither. Oh my God. I wouldn't argue with her neither.

SPEAKER_01

Can I take a rain check on my ass whooping?

SPEAKER_00

Remember, she was fighting in the um the first episode. She fought Laura. Fighting Laura. She came around that table. That's when shit was real and it wasn't for. It's like those bitches was a real life argument.

SPEAKER_01

Gloria. Gloria. I couldn't stand Gloria.

SPEAKER_00

Gloria was weird. And then when they brought her back all them years later, what did y'all bring her back for? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I would say I think Gloria should have started Orlando back when. Remember when um in Miami, um Susie, Evelyn, and Shawnee flew to Orlando to have a dinner or sit down with Gloria. And then left. And then left. Gloria cursed the asses out and walked out. She thought she did something. They should have started Orlando around that time.

SPEAKER_00

So please. You know they said they wanted Tammy on Housewives. Oh. They were Candy said, um Candy said they had pitched that she had suggested like she why don't we bring Candy on? They wanted her down in Atlanta. Can you imagine fucking Tammy and Nene on a season together? Mm-mm. That would have been a holy hot mess. That would have been some good TV. Well, the Tammy now is reformed, so maybe. I'm talking about back then. Back then when they were trying to get her on there. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That would have been, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Even now, Angela said they've been trying to get her since season nine. And she just kept refusing. Imagine a season with Angela and Sheree and Nene. I don't think Angela and Sheree would have got along. Nobody likes Sheba Sheree. Spring, summer.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think they would have got along.

SPEAKER_00

It can only be one bone collector per season. Angela's doing a great job of bone collecting.

SPEAKER_01

She don't sugarcoat it. You know how she didn't. She's gonna tell you she did it.

SPEAKER_00

You know how Sheree stutters. She's gonna tell you she did it. That's why she makes a great bone collector. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I said it. And then she's gonna call you out. But Mike, didn't you say, damn Angela, I just told you five minutes ago. How do you feel about K Michelle and the plot?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think it should have been brought up if she wasn't gonna name who was trying to plot against.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it shouldn't have been brought up, but we didn't. First of all, you brought the plot up. So you brought the plot to the TV show. If it was gonna come up, you should have let it play down because if you already knew in your mind it was gonna happen, you should have played into it. You brought the shit up. Nobody knew not. I forgot all about the funky giant of a rumor. Then you talking about they was gonna talk about my toes. Girl, what? This is housewives. They is not worried about talking about your toes.

SPEAKER_01

But then now I'm also confused because now she brought up the issue with Shamia's mom in the club. Well, granted, I went once. You see what I mean? Granted, I don't want nobody's mama giving me no sermons when I'm trying to party in the club.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like with Kay Michelle in the plot, quote unquote, if Porsche brought you in as your friend, as her friend to bring into the group, you should have had that conversation with her. You get what I'm saying? You want to give Shamia grace talking about, oh, everybody jump on her, but it's fine when you and Kelly was out there trying to gang up on Porsche. Yeah. Or when you and somebody try and gang up on Drew, which I really don't even understand the basis of this beef. With uh with Drew and Kate Michelle. They got beef? I don't understand it. Like, oh yeah, they do when Drew was on the phone with Black for five hours at the event. On FaceTime. And all she said was, Oh, you you guys know each other. I don't know him. That's not enough to start a beef. You said that man named more than Drew did. Every time Black comes up in a conversation, Kate Michelle is bringing him up. So it's weird that you're saying that, oh, Drew was going to try to say you was messing around with him. No, you brought it up. You brought up the DM. So it's once again, you have an issue, but then you still cool with Shamia and don't want to address her when she's telling you behind the scenes that her circle, telling you don't be friends with her, I would be more aware of a bitch that I'm cool with than a bitch that I don't know. Yeah. Because you skinning and grinning in my face, but you you're telling me you're talking about me behind your back. And we already know it's Rashida and I don't think it's candy because they just want to, they just did that on Mother's Day show together. So I really feel like it's Rashida and um what's Lil Wayne baby mama name? Toya. Toya. I feel like it's them too. Why do you keep telling me that? What do you keep saying that for? This reunion is gonna be good. And then they hanging around with um misproportion Kelly. I'm sick of her too. You spend $70,000 on teeth and your college your daughter went off to college and you about to be homeless. You said you can afford $4,000 a month. Why the fuck are we looking at a house with an elevator in it? What are we doing? And I don't think Shamia got enough backlash when she sent that fucking girl when she gave her that basket with them condoms and alcohol in there. That shit was not funny to me. I was very annoyed. No. Because teenage pregnancy has already been, remember, we went through that whole wave of teenage pregnancy. So what are you trying to tell my daughter to do? Drunk and get fucked? Because why are you bringing her liquor and condoms?

SPEAKER_01

Especially as no gift basket.

SPEAKER_00

And then you're doing this shit on national TV. Like, what was funny about that? That shit wasn't funny at all. I would have cursed me to fuck out on TV. She's 18. Why are you buying her liquor? Oh, she's gonna do it. You don't know what the fuck she's gonna do. Everybody, not you. And I don't understand why she made that Angela saying she was sleeping around with them basketball players because this ain't the first time we heard it.

SPEAKER_01

No, because Phaedra said it in season 9 reunion.

SPEAKER_00

The girl's been saying it. Marlo told us, allegedly. Marlo told us, you know, so why are you upset with Angela? Oh, I'm on a TV show, this can damage my marriage. You didn't think about nobody else when you said the shit that you said. Remember what she said about Eva and Missy? I remember that. You didn't think about that when her husband was running for office. You didn't think that was going to damage his campaign. But now, because it's you, you have this is what I'm saying. I like Shamia in the beginning, but she started to piss me off very fast. She can fucking go. I'm sick of her to pack her and pack up that motherfucking Phaedra and send them bitches back to the waiting list. So who would your who would your season 18 cast be? I would bring back Angela, I would bring back Pinky. I actually like Pinky. I feel like Pinky's a great addition to the case.

SPEAKER_01

I always think newbies should get a second.

SPEAKER_00

Not all. Um because I don't understand why Kelly came back. Um Rishamia, but that's neither here nor there. Um I would bring back Angela, I would bring back Pinky. I would bring back Pinky just to look at her husband. Umbe they'll bring the woman from the basic. I like Drew. Allegedly. I like Drew. Um, I don't know. I want to give Kate Michelle another shot. Let's see how the rest of this season goes. Because I like Kate Michelle. I like Kate Michelle on TV. I just don't know. Like, you're not doing all the scenes. You're a confessional thug. Like, I don't know. I ask me in two weeks when I bring her back. Um obviously they want to bring back Porsche. I would bring Nene back as a friend role. Her and Cynthia could be the friends of the.

SPEAKER_01

See, I was gonna say bring Candy back as a friend role.

SPEAKER_00

Candy's not coming back. She's gonna be like, she's not coming back, but I would like her in a friend role. I would definitely get rid of Kelly. I would definitely get you know what? I would bring Kelly back because she don't, she, I'm not a Kelly fan, but she made Porsche work this first half of the season. So I definitely would bring her ass back. Um, especially with all this brokenness going on. I need to see it because you had a lot to say about Pinky. And you also had a lot to say about Portia and her divorce, but honey, she got a whole house. You should have taken tips from her on how to get some some coin. Because now you're about to be my neighbor over here in the county. In Duluth. Um I don't know. I think that would be it. Like I would just get rid of Phaedra. They can take Shamia, bring the other girls back. I would have Nene and Cynthia as a friend role. I would actually move Cynthia up to a full-time and give Nene the friend role. Like, I would ease Nene back in. Like, I wouldn't just give her a full peach right away.

SPEAKER_01

Especially with well, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00

I do want to see the dynamics of Nene without Greg, like, for real, for real this time. Because remember, last time they were going through the divorce and then they wound up getting back together. So I think had they mended stuff when she was with the African guy, that would have been great time to bring her in because you can see her actually dating. Um and probably give us a newbie. But for sure, Phaedra got the go. Phaedra got to pack it the fuck up. She brought nothing last season. Well, granted, last season was what it was. If all this shit clear with Brit Itty, bring Kenya back.

SPEAKER_01

I would bring Kenya back.

SPEAKER_00

If everything clears over with Brit Itty and all this shit is under the border, bring her back. Because you know she can't do nothing with Bravo right now because of this lawsuit that's going on. But allegedly, they offered Brit to come back before she didn't come to reunion. They offered her to come back, but they also told her Kenya's coming back too. Yeah. And that's when a lawsuit got filed. But my thing is like, girl, at the end of the season, you put your titties on a bar. So what was the difference?

SPEAKER_01

Well, I don't understand because she also said in a post that the picture wasn't her.

SPEAKER_00

Well, her husband's gay, so she's confused too. They said he'd be at them DL parties um sending that cash app to get in. She just as confused as me. Her voice was annoying. Brit. Yeah, her voice was annoying. But towards the end of the season, I started to like her because at the end towards the end, I started being on her side with the beef that she was getting into with Kelly. Yeah. Because I felt like Kelly, what are you doing? Like, you let me tell you something. Ever since Paris left Kelly, she's a mess. The fashions. Well, Kelly Paris couldn't even dress. I think because the way her body is proportioned. Some of her stuff don't. You real short and you got these big boobs and like nothing never really looked right on that lady. But then when he started, I mean Britt wasn't the greatest dress person when he started dressing her. But he, bitch, his confessional looks for Cynthia and Portia. Oh, bitch, he's eating. He's eating down with the fashions. But I don't know who would you bring back? Who would you get rid of? Let's start there. Out of the current cast. We already know Phaedra. Phaedra got the gun. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I never even wanted her back. She didn't bring nothing at first time around. If she wasn't pregnant, no, when Apollo was getting locked up, it was locked up. Season seven, she she mmm. What season was that when she took that man to court and got her money in the parking lot?

SPEAKER_01

Was it her first season?

SPEAKER_00

I said that bitch a criminal for real. You getting money in the parking lot? Cash. I knew she was.

SPEAKER_01

I was just watching a clip with uh Mama Joyce was talking about how the guy was gonna how they remember when the bomb situation, the bomb threat, and Mama Joyce was like, Well, I heard the guy was gonna come and blow you the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00

So other than Phaedra, who's getting the boot?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I don't want Shamia back. I think she's ran her course.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think she knows how to be herself. She was better as a friend. She was a lap dog then. You went from Portia to K Michelle. I want Lisa back. Lisa woo for what?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. She, if if we're gonna bring Nene back, I want Okay, let me let me see. What did Lisa do to make her come back? Let me see her in a 20th anniversary show. The ultimate baby.

SPEAKER_00

I just be wondering why do they want them back? Who is Wildlizard? Why do they be wanting them back? I don't understand why people want Sheree back. She's always been boring to me. She buy Sheree. They want to see the. I don't understand why people wanted Marlo back. Marlo now Marlo was a great friend. Uh I always say they should have gave Marlo that peach when she first got them boys, because then you get them and kick them out. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

The smoke Marlo has.

SPEAKER_00

For Candy's last uh was that was so unwarranted and it's like girl, what are we talking about? Oh, you don't say the word and it's triggering me. My nephew was shot. Girl, that was three years ago. Why are you upset? And then you called me to get on camo or cameo, so you not that upset that the young man passed away. She fumbled her peach heart. I don't think they would ever bring her back in any capacity. They got so much backlash after her first seasons and they brought her back. I think it was too much backlash for them to even I don't even think they invite her to BravoCon. I don't remember seeing her at BravoCon last year. You know what's fucked up? Sonia was another one that I don't understand how the fuck she made it through the cast cut. Remember, she thought she was gonna get Kenya together, and Kenya, like, well, we already talked about this, so what's the next issue? Oh, let me think. Bitch, think. Well, maybe it was because of Ross. So we can look at him? Yeah. First of all, she moved the whole fucking family over from Jamaica and put him in her house too much going on.

SPEAKER_01

Too much.

SPEAKER_00

You, the husband, his husband, the sister, her husband, the kids, the mom, the dad. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. You motherfuckers wouldn't all been under my roof. But I'm glad she got the boot. She's another one that listen, they had some. Now I'm the Claudia. She could have stayed where she was at. I don't think she needed to ever be there. Um, who else? I liked Eva on there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

She's just pregnant.

SPEAKER_00

Eva was a bad liar. Um, Kim Fields shouldn't have been on there. She's a poor lady crying her whole season.

SPEAKER_01

Which is crazy because You know, she lives around here. Had we got like I watch Kim Fields interviews and stuff now, and like her videos that she upload on like Instagram. I feel like had we got that Kim Fields.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she was also in the season with Kenya, and that's when she was a fucking menace. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But what's crazy is Kim Fields at the reunion should have been the Kim Fields we got in the season.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she knew she wasn't coming back. They offered her to come back, I believe. Yeah, she was she was offered her to come back. She was without. I wanted to see another season. Um what was old girl's name? Shamari. I love Shamari. I like Shamari. She was turned a mess, though. She was lit.

SPEAKER_01

You should have gave Ivana a peach. What's her name? From Clark. Yvana.

SPEAKER_00

That didn't that dinner saying that. That dinner was funny as shit because everybody was so confused about like what the fuck was going on.

SPEAKER_01

Eva was like, Candy, what just happened?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know. Even her, but husband, whatever he was, just looking at her like.

SPEAKER_01

And then you pay into the white guy. The random white guy in the room. Marlo's man.

SPEAKER_00

The random white guy in the room.

SPEAKER_01

Herenna man.

SPEAKER_00

Remember Ted Turner died? Somebody gonna say, y'all checked on Marlo yet? Bitch, they are so messy. Atlanta, Atlanta, Toronto. Drew, she messy TV on another. Drew is messy TV. Atlanta Toronto trip was good as well, too. So other than Atlanta, you watch you watch all the franchises?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

No.

SPEAKER_01

I watch Orange County, Beverly Hills, Miami, even though Miami is on Paul's. Again? Yeah. I watch Dallas. Dallas was really good. It got really bad towards like the last season. DC, they don't even mention DC. That's like erased from the history. Orange County. I watch all of them. Salt Lake City.

SPEAKER_00

No, I just watch Atlanta, Potomac. Potomac. Salt Lake. I'm going to watch Rhode Island and the season is over. I'm going to watch that. Jersey. New York. No. I just watched those three. And then they're going to bring Philly. Absolutely motherfucking bitch. Ain't nothing in there. Ain't nothing in here. They're going to have motherfucking salt on Housewives.

SPEAKER_01

Real Housewives of Philly would remind me of Mobwise Chicago. Did you watch Mobwise Chicago? No. It only lasted one.

SPEAKER_00

I'm ready for Potomac to come back. Not Potomac, Salt Lake speaking of. I wonder how Mary's going to do. Like halted season. They halted everything. She's heavily involved. Yeah, they said she's not in like the first. Yeah. She's probably not going to be like the first pre-episode. Her and Angie. Angie not speaking though. Heather needs to go.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Her and her black eye.

SPEAKER_00

Take the fucking Whitney with her. Take Whitney with her. I can't stand Whitney. I hate everything about her. I hate her face. I hate her husband. I hate her little stupid house. I like nothing about her. She can go.

SPEAKER_01

What about Britney? Little girl.

SPEAKER_00

About Brittany. I'm about tired of her and that Britney. Brittany crazy as hell. I'm about tired of her and that man.

SPEAKER_01

She, she, she ain't. The elevator don't go to the shit.

SPEAKER_00

I'm about tired of her and that man. Um Jared. Bronwyn. Oh hell.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I didn't like how Todd be talking to her. Well, I'm glad. Um I wouldn't, I don't like downfalls of marriages, but she should not have been married to that man.

SPEAKER_00

I just want to see like the whole Mary and how she's going. Because that's a lot. And this is crazy because at the last reunion he was just locked up or something like that. He was in, he was waiting for trial. Um, I don't know. It's just the scene where her and Robert were sitting on the bed and he was like talking to her about everything. I think that was one of the first scenes in a long time where it like actually had me teary eyed. Because it was like you really felt it like was a real conversation. And I remember her saying, she told him, I want to have the conversation on TV. Like she wanted it to be recorded. Um, and I like that because you never know who that might touch. And for me, like seeing how close they were, yeah, when he was like talking about all the drugs that he was on, how young he started, and then her questioning herself, like, how did I miss it? This then the third, that shit really, I really said and I'm like, oh my God, like I really shed a tear. Like, this is real. Only for him to pass away like a few years after that, it's just like your heart has to go out to her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because she did everything she could do. And like she said, when he got locked up, I'm not getting him out because he needs help. Like, he has to get the help from somewhere. And for him to come home and OD at home is just Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

As a parent, you can only do so much. So she did all that she can do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, big ups to Mary. I can't wait to see her on TV because she's hilarious. Remember, she told Jen your grandma, your aunt smelled like a hospital. Like she said she's only 60. Why is she getting her legs cut off? A girl. Mary just says whatever she wants out of her mouth and just roll with it. They said she's in a cult. I didn't watch the documentary about her church.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, there was a documentary about that.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. I didn't care to watch it. Let's make a documentary about the Mormons and let's see how we feel about y'all. Because when Heather did that documentary about all the stuff y'all was going through, they didn't try to blackball y'all. So why y'all so worried about Mary? I would visit Salt Lake City. Did you watch the Heather documentary? No. It was good. It's only like two episodes, but it's on. Did I watch it on Peacock?

SPEAKER_01

Didn't it come on Bravo?

SPEAKER_00

Did I not? I watched it on. I think I watched it on Peacock. I think I watched it on Peacock. But it was good. Like she found actual people from Salt Lake City that was in the Mormon neighborhood or whatever the fuck they call it. And then came out, and they were just like talking about their things. One of them was a gay guy. He was just talking about his experience and how of his religion he had to have kids and stuff like that. Like it's the same thing that they try to crucify other religions for, but you know, they try to put themselves on a higher pedestal. So to actually hear it broken down is like, I'm pretty sure if I would have watched the Mary documentary, it wouldn't have been no different from this one. I'm almost certain it wouldn't have been no different. But because that's a black woman that runs that church, it's always going to be the bigger scene. Right. It is always going to be bigger. Who's your favorite member on Salt League? Mine is Mary and Lisa. I don't think I ever had a favorite. I love Lisa because she's so fucking delusional. Lisa lives in her own fucking world. She does. She doesn't live like the rest of them, according to her. She doesn't live like the rest of those girls. Baby Gorgeous. You heard that song? No. Oh, it's horrible. I mean, Meredith is a DJ. She can go. She don't piss me off. Because Meredith can go. Meredith makes me so fucking mad. Her voice makes me mad. Her little husband makes me mad. Her kids make me mad. Like, oh my. Soon as Meredith comes on the screen in the solo scene. Fuck no. I mute every scene when he's on the TV.

SPEAKER_01

That's Riley's friend.

SPEAKER_00

I don't give a fuck. I like Riley. But that's neither here nor there. Meredith can pack it the fuck up. Yeah, I don't know. I think Salt Lake needs to get some new members. They haven't had new members in a while. The OGs are still there. Their cast work so good together.

SPEAKER_01

Timelines, receipts, proof.

SPEAKER_00

Heather could have gone after that season because after that, she has nothing. She never has anything. Well, that's true too. She can be a friend. She's just there. Whitney can just get fired.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I don't understand why she dragged out that whole blackout, black eyes, so we knew Jen did it.

SPEAKER_00

It was Jen acting a poll like she didn't know what happened. She's a good actor. Jen was fucking batshit crazy. And I think I think that's what made me like Mary even more because she was the only one that wasn't scared to cut up with Jen. Like, bitch, I'm not scared of you. She said, I hope you're guilty. I mean innocent.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Um, I've watched Maternal Instinct. What's that? That lady batshit crazy. What's maternal instinct? Uh it's about uh a lady that faked her pregnancy. Um and and they show what is on is on Netflix. Um I was watching it. Is that what you're talking about last time you came over here? Yeah, when I when I came over to watch Bella while you was at work, that's what I was watching on TV with the lady she stole the baby. The lady had the baby in between her legs, went to the hospital. What you mean she had the baby between her legs? Because she stole the baby from somebody. She she went to one of her friends' house, killed her, and stole her baby.

SPEAKER_00

And then put it between her legs to do what? And then make her coming out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because she was pregnant. For now, she was fake pregnant. Which is dumb because you they know they they're gonna examine you. It was dumb. She's dumb.

SPEAKER_00

Is it it's obviously scripted.

SPEAKER_01

No. This is a true story. I know you made this up. No, it's a true story. This is a real lady. And she was in the hospital saying, Yeah, I had a baby, and the doctor went and checked her and told the police no baby came out of her.

SPEAKER_00

Did she not think they was not gonna know that? Bitch, you was better off just kidnapping and going about your day. Did you watch I'm gonna find you?

SPEAKER_01

I will find you.

SPEAKER_00

Is that what it's called?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I watched that.

SPEAKER_00

That was good. That was good. I watched that. That was good. Alright, so we're gonna wrap this up. Look at this little lightning bug thingy. They be so annoying. That's the only thing I hate about living down here. Like, fucking bitch, it was this bug, this big, our whole ass in this house so fast. Because I was gonna sit in the deck, but you know when I sit in the deck, I leave the door open. But that bitch was like that. I said, Oh, I can't let that bitch fly in the house. But now they got I know somebody's hoping to name them. They look like lightning bugs, but they don't light up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't even um I just look at them and let them crawl. No, bitch, I gotta kill them. Like, um I gotta get the exterminator back.

SPEAKER_00

You haven't saw the jumping spiders. No, because you know we had the exterminator, so we had um they was doing the inside and outside. Yeah. But we haven't we didn't do it this month. So now since we didn't do it, like when I come home, like they'll be on the screen door and shit. Like, I gotta swap my way to get to the It's just something I'm used to because when you live around a bunch of trees, this shit that's it's trees over there, it's trees over there, it's trees over there. I said, They got the fuck to go.

SPEAKER_01

A lizard in my apartment.

SPEAKER_00

Let me tell you something. The exterminator will be back next month. Fuck that. I went one month without the exterminator. I said, oh hell to the knoll. He got the fuck to come back. Jumping. I ain't seen none. Them things be jumping. You be trying to hit them. I ain't seen them. Thank God. They come in, they did all my windows, they did all the bases of the door, they went to the bathroom, they went in my shed, they put stuff around both refrigerators. Then he went outside, he did the base of the house, they did under the house. He did like the yard, a little bit of the yard in the back, a little bit in the front, but we hadn't had them last month. So now that we didn't have them, these bitches is coming back with a vengeance. You know, last time we sat outside, we didn't get bit up by the mosquitoes. That's because we had all the shit down.

SPEAKER_01

And it's summertime too.

SPEAKER_00

I don't give a fuck. Exterminate this motherfucker. Get this motherfucker clear.

SPEAKER_01

Give them a couch. Let them invite them in.

SPEAKER_00

Bitch, I'm about to get some new furniture in this motherfucker. I ain't got time to be swatting everything that rolled past here. Uh-uh. Alright, y'all, we're gonna wrap it up until next time. I gotta, I'm gonna cook some bitches 11 o'clock at night. It's 10 40. Well, what I'm about to make, not gonna take that long anyway. All right, y'all. It's been fun. We'll be back. So let's go here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we gotta find the music.