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The Origin of Weird: Anne Greene, Life After Hanging
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A servant is hanged before a crowd, declared dead, and sent to the university as a cadaver. Then a faint gasp stops the scalpels. We follow Anne Greene’s astonishing survival in 1650 Oxford—where public justice, scarce cadavers, and emerging medical practice collided—and explore how a single breath unraveled the era’s certainty about death, guilt, and divine will.
We walk through the culture of the gallows, where executions doubled as entertainment and moral theater, and the legal pipeline that delivered bodies to anatomy labs. Anne’s path from a risky pregnancy and a stillbirth to a murder conviction under the 1624 concealment law exposes the ruthless logic of a system stacked against poor, unmarried women. From there, we examine the mechanics of short-drop hanging, why strangulation often replaced the intended neck break, and how cold air and rope placement might have preserved a thread of life. When Oxford physicians William Petty and Thomas Willis opened her coffin, quick action—rewarming, stimulation, and the period’s humoral remedies—helped pull her back.
The fallout rippled across faith and law. Many called it a miracle, a sign that God had overruled the court. Officials chose a pardon rather than testing the limits of punishment twice, and Anne went on to marry and have children, becoming a living challenge to the assumptions of her age. Along the way, we weigh miracle versus medicine, highlight what records confirm and what remains unknowable, and trace how this case sharpened medical observation and public debate about justice, gender, and power.
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Setting The Stage For Weird
SPEAKER_01Oh, hey there.
SPEAKER_00Oh, hey there.
SPEAKER_01How's it going today, Kate?
SPEAKER_00It's going well. How are you?
SPEAKER_01I am well. I am Bradley, and this is the origin of weird. Where we try to find the origin of weird. I mean, it's in the fucking title.
SPEAKER_00Need we say more?
SPEAKER_01We yes, we should. And let me do that right now. Um it's never gonna be found because there's so much weird shit in this world. I don't know it. Holy fuck.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01We've literally only scratched the surface of weird.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Like the Oakville Blobs last episode. That was fucking weird.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01For lack of a better way of saying it. And on brand. But anyways. I mean that was weird.
SPEAKER_00At least it wasn't on Brad. See what you did there.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00Well, are we?
SPEAKER_01I I just want you to know I'm laughing inside.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
Public Spectacle Of Execution
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, so we are going all the way back to 17th century.
SPEAKER_011600s. That's right.
SPEAKER_00That's how far weird goes back.
SPEAKER_01Well, no, it goes back further. Probably. Jesus, am I right? I I I still like to joke that my mom walked with Jesus because she's really old. Anyways. 1600s, 17th century, let's do this. Yes.
SPEAKER_00So where are we going? We are going to England.
SPEAKER_01Yes, we are.
SPEAKER_00Um, and they had a very um public relationship with death.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Executions in particular.
SPEAKER_01Sure. I mean, they were all about it.
SPEAKER_00At the gallows.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Were not quiet affairs.
SPEAKER_01They were spectacles.
SPEAKER_00They they were public. Very, very public. They were social gatherings, if you will.
SPEAKER_01They really were. The people would come from miles to watch. Oh, this person is gonna get hanged. Honey, what you doing tomorrow night? Going to the gallows. Me too. No, it's it was a public gathering. Me too.
SPEAKER_00Me too. Yes, crowds gathered early. Vendors sold food, probably. We don't know. People brought their children along. Maybe there was a ring toss game where you could like win a goldfish or big stuff. We don't know.
SPEAKER_01Those games are fucking rigged. They've been rigged for 600 years.
SPEAKER_00But a hanging was part moral lesson, part ritual, part entertainment.
SPEAKER_01Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_00And if you were condemned, your private moments were not.
SPEAKER_01No.
SPEAKER_00Final move moments were not private.
SPEAKER_01So do you think, and this is just not in your research, do you think people put bets on if they were gonna shit themselves or not?
SPEAKER_00No, I would think that they would bet on if their neck snapped or not.
SPEAKER_01Now hear me out. Okay. When you die, there's a very good chance you're gonna shit yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Because the sphincter loses all control. Yes. Does it happen every time? No. Does it happen a lot of times? Oh yes. Now when you're hanged, which isn't a common thing in our time, obviously. Gravity. I'm just saying gravity. Alright. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00So once you were um declared dead, well, yeah. It actually meant one thing back then. That was it was actually useful when you died. The study of anatomy was advancing quickly, but bodies were scarce.
SPEAKER_01So they would take the bodies. Yes.
SPEAKER_00So universities were constantly in need of cadavers, and there was a law that mentioned um it would allow bodies of executed criminals to be handed over for dissection.
SPEAKER_01Because basically they were null and void of being human at that point, if to a to a lesser degree. I'm not saying exactly those words, but yes.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And they didn't want to grave grave rob anymore.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Cadavers And Medical Demand
SPEAKER_01They used to do that. Yeah. For for the advancement of human society.
SPEAKER_00So in 1650 in Oxfordshire, a young woman named Anne Green found herself at the center of all of this. Um, Anne Green was not famous, she was not wealthy, she was a servant. She was young, low status, largely invisible to the world.
SPEAKER_01Um but what did she do?
SPEAKER_00She ended up getting pregnant.
SPEAKER_01By the husband of the people she served?
SPEAKER_00By the son of the people she served.
SPEAKER_01Oh, scandalous. Yes. So do we know how old she was? The what's her? I'm sorry, what's her name?
SPEAKER_00Her name is Ann Green. Um, no, I didn't come across how old she was. Okay. She was younger, but um how old was the son? I I didn't look that up either.
SPEAKER_01That's okay. What would you guess?
SPEAKER_00Twenties, early set teens and twenties, somewhere around there.
SPEAKER_01That's fine.
SPEAKER_00Um, so we're not sure if the relationship was consensual or coerced or something different.
SPEAKER_01Because of power placement or something, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but an unmarried pregnant servant carried enormous risk. A single accusation could ruin a woman's reputation, cost her employment, threaten her ability to survive at all in a world.
SPEAKER_01It also could threaten the family that because hey, I this is your your heir, if you will, right? Yeah. I mean, they could be like, hey, I have a part in this now.
SPEAKER_00So in late 1649, um, Anne went into premature labor. Oh dear. The infant was stillborn. Um she was terrified and alone, and she did the only thing that she could think of um at the time to protect herself, and that was to hide the body.
SPEAKER_01Oh shit. I mean, yeah, I get I I get it, though.
SPEAKER_00But it was discovered. Of course. And under the 1624 Concealment of Birth of Bastards Act, didn't know that was an act. An unmarried woman who hit the death of her child was presumed guilty of murder unless she could prove that the child had been born dead.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_00Which at the time, proving that was nearly impossible.
SPEAKER_01I say, how how could you prove that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, today there would be like an autopsy to see if there was air in the baby's lungs.
SPEAKER_01Yep, all that good stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and of course, Anne insisted that the baby had never lived, but it was still born. She was already presumed guilty.
SPEAKER_01Well, that's usually how the world works.
SPEAKER_00She was tried in Oxford, and the verdict came quickly with very little room for mercy, and Anne Green was sentenced to hang.
SPEAKER_01Jesus.
SPEAKER_00On December 14th, 1650, Anne Green was led to the gallows. Jesus Christ. Executions were supposed to be efficient. Um, short drop, rope, gravity, the end.
SPEAKER_01Neck neck break, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yes. Um, but they're not exactly a precise calculation at this time.
Anne Green’s Pregnancy And Peril
SPEAKER_01They you wouldn't how do I say this delicately? They're not proficient in their craft, if you will.
SPEAKER_00So sometimes death came by strangulation rather than a broken neck.
SPEAKER_01Oh, sure.
SPEAKER_00And that could take some time.
SPEAKER_01Yep, because they're wriggling and rylin'. Yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_00So Anne was placed on a ladder, and when it was kicked away, Anne struggled at the end of the rope and the crowd watched, waiting for the moment where she would be still. But she's accounts say that friends tugged on her legs to like quicken the death.
SPEAKER_01Friends did?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it sounds horrifying, but it was actually kind of an act of kindness because they were trying to end her suffering. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Half an hour later, oh my god, she was finally still. Her body was cut down, placed in a coffin, and death was officially declared. The crowd began to disperse, and the spectacle were was over, or so everyone believed.
SPEAKER_01So everyone thought.
SPEAKER_00As was customary, her body was delivered to physicians at the University of Oxford for anatomical study.
SPEAKER_01Wow. Did she wake up?
SPEAKER_00Perhaps.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Jesus.
SPEAKER_00Seriously? Among the doctors were Dr. William Petty and Dr. Thomas Willis, men of science, curious, practical, smart men. Um, and Anne was no longer a person with a story. She was a specimen.
SPEAKER_01Well, of course. I mean, she was tried and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now she's literally nothing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01To especially to them, because they're just scientists at this point. Yeah. And they have a specimen. Nobody fucking cared what she was in life at that point.
SPEAKER_00So the coffin was opened and the doctors prepared their examination, but as they worked, they noticed something. Oh dear. There was a faint sound. Like at first they thought it was like a s air escaping her the body. Was it which but that's kind of a common occurrence, just like gases. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But then came like another noise, more of a gasp. And that's when they noticed that there was slight movement in her chest. Oh shit. To the astonishment, Anne began to revive as her breathing deepened and her pulse grew str uh stronger. And for uh, you know, these men were trained observers, they were not prone to hysteria. And here was this woman who had been hanged, declared dead, um, coffined, transported, and now breathing on their table.
SPEAKER_01That's fucking wild.
SPEAKER_00They moved quickly, uh, put their scalpels down, and they warmed her body up with um placing her by a fire, rubbing her limbs, and pouring warm liqueur through her lips. And this would help like stimulate her breathing. Sure. They reportedly also tickled her throat with a feather.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that's a common practice till to this day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And bled her slightly. I like how you're like, yeah. Which was a medical practice back then meant to balance the humors of the body.
SPEAKER_01The the the what?
SPEAKER_00The humors. Like the blood, black, black vial, yellow bile, and phlegm. They're like boun they were supposed to like balance out the body. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you when you say humors, I'm like, that's a good joke.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they called it humors. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know that. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um, so she began to uh speak in faint whispers, and within hours she was conscious enough to respond. Wow. Um, so within days she was able to sit up in bed. Okay. Um, now very much alive. So the word spread rapidly. Sure. A hanged woman had come back to life, and in a deeply religious society, this was not merely medical, it was theological.
SPEAKER_01Correct, because it was miracle. Everyone's like, oh, thanks be to Jesus.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So many interpreted her survival as divine intervention. If God had allowed her to live after lawful execution, perhaps the execution had been unjust. So the physicians documented this case carefully.
SPEAKER_01Sure.
SPEAKER_00They published accounts detailing the sequence of events and the message methods used to revive her. And in their view, it was a triumph of observation and intervention. Um, and an excellent um advertisement for their competence as well.
The Gallows And A Botched Hanging
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, because they want to make it seem like they're doing their fucking job properly, right?
SPEAKER_00But there was still a question that hung in the air. What does one do with a woman who's already been executed? Technically, the sentence had been carried out. Yeah. The rope had done its work, just not quite thoroughly enough.
SPEAKER_01So is it isn't it like that movie? Um, oh fuck, it's got what, her name? Ashley Judd. Um Double Jeopardy. Yes, thank you, thank you. Right? I mean You can't be tried for the same thing if you're already like found a guilty or not guilty for it.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, so they were like, is she gonna be hanged again? The law did not have like a addendum for something like this. Nope. But the authorities chose not to test the fate, and Anne Green received a pardon.
SPEAKER_01Oh shit, really?
SPEAKER_00Yep. If Sun believed her survival was an act of God, it would have been unwise and probably unpopular to argue.
SPEAKER_01Who do you think she would have got a pardon from at that point? Was it would have could have been the a judge? Judge? Well, usually pardons would come from like the highest authority.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And which kings can pardon.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't because Elizabeth wouldn't have been queen at this time. I think she would have already been passed. So I'm I'm not sure who would have been king, but I would I would assume it would come from that level. Yeah. I have no idea if I'm right. Yeah. But I would have that's where I would my brain goes. So anyway, sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So she became something of like a living curiosity as people came to see her and speak with her. Yep. Confirmed that she was real and breathing and present. Confirmed she was real. And eventually married a man named John Bunn, had children, lived for years afterwards. Um we have court records, we have physician accounts, but we don't know anything from her point of view. Sure. Yeah. There were no like private recollections or diaries or anything. Okay. In 1650, medical knowledge of oxygen deprivation and brain injury was limited. Yep. And a hanging did not always mean immediate irreversible death. If the neck did not break and the airway was not completely obstructed, um survival, though rare, was still possible. Oh, yeah, definitely. That day, the cold winter air may have slowed her metabolism.
SPEAKER_01Sure.
SPEAKER_00The short drop may have um spared her cervical spine, and the delay before dissection may have given her body time to recover. Yeah, no doubt. So there are additional medical explanations like imperfect rope placement, incomplete asphyxiation. Yep. Um, but there was also rapid rapid intervention once signs of life were noticed.
SPEAKER_01Which was probably what part of the reason why she was saved, really. Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't you think?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because otherwise, if they neglected that and be like, eh, it's just uh just like watching her breathe. Well, they honestly we're talking the 1650s, right? Yeah. You said yeah, they could have been like that, it's just a reflex of the body, right? They don't fucking know better, right? Yeah. So I mean, good on them for oh shit, no. That this chick is fucking alive.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, wow. But her her case remains one of the best documented examples of survival after execution in early modern England.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy. Yeah, that's so weird because like so many things could have gone wrong for her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Delivered For Dissection
SPEAKER_01Because of well, clearly certain things went wrong for her because she was hanged for hiding her stillborn. Okay. I was just gonna say, unjustly hanged, because we don't know. Nobody really knows, right? If she did what they say she did to her baby.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01If it was stillborn, she wasn't guilty of anything.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So she was unjustly hung at that point. Now, on the flip side, if she did do that, okay, she was justly hung. But either way, she fucking survived this? That is impressive in sixteen in the in the sixteen fifties.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Excuse me, but I mean, could you imagine being like, yeah, I was hung once. What?
SPEAKER_00Ready.
SPEAKER_01Wait, what? Yeah, now I've got three or however many kids she have ever. Did you say how many she had or no? Okay, but she had kids afterwards and married somebody else. But because she was, I don't know, had the bastard child of her words I'm looking for. People she worked for?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was the son of it was the son of the people that she worked for. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And it's like, holy fuck.
SPEAKER_00Well, actually, it wasn't even proven that it was that person.
SPEAKER_01It was just like potentially this person. It was hinted at, we'll say. Yeah. But no proof, obviously. And they couldn't, like, well, let's check the DNA.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Signs Of Life On The Table
SPEAKER_01Hold on, let's wait 300 years and we'll do that. So they obviously couldn't do that. That's fucking weird though. I mean, to fucking be hung and like, nah, I'm good. I'm gonna go on living my life. Yeah. Holy shit. I mean, good on her. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So yeah. Well, I suppose.
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