Really, San Francisco? Greenberg & Sandberg Podcast

S2 Episode 2: Recalls

Richie Greenberg Season 2 Episode 2

In this episode of Really, San Francisco? Richie and Erica explore the concept of recalls, the voter-initiated removal of elected public officials. They dig deeper into a current recall effort currently under way in San Francisco, one member of the 11-member Board of Supervisors, Joel Engardio.  If you want ot learn all about the concepts, philosophy and ramifications of recalls, be sure to listen to this episode!.

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Understanding Recall Processes and Importance

Erica and Richie discussed the topic of recalls, focusing on their importance and the process involved. They emphasized that recalls are not initiated by a single issue or personal grievance but require significant evidence of misconduct, corruption, or incompetence. Richie explained the technicalities and requirements of a recall, highlighting that it is a lengthy and expensive process. They also addressed the misconception that recalls undermine democracy, stressing that they are a necessary mechanism to hold elected officials accountable and restore trust in governance.


San Francisco Supervisor Recall Discussion

Erica and Richie discussed the recall of San Francisco Supervisor Joel and Guardio, focusing on the closure of a North-South Express Corridor road that affected constituents in District 4. They emphasized that the recall was a punishment for the supervisor's actions and would restore trust in governance by giving power back to the constituents who elected him. The conversation highlighted the conflict between the road closure, which was presented as a park, and the constituents' desires, while noting that the recall would not change the road's status.

San Francisco's Political Drama

Erica and Richie discussed the political culture in San Francisco, comparing it to reality TV due to its dramatic nature. They explored how politics became more significant for Richie over time, leading to increased curiosity about local issues. The conversation shifted to the topic of recalls, highlighting that many San Francisco officials, including supervisors and the mayor, are potentially subject to recall. Erica emphasized that public officials have a job to perform, similar to any other employee, despite their higher salaries.

Recalls as a Governance Mechanism

Erica and Richie discussed the importance of recalls as a mechanism for addressing dissatisfaction with elected officials, emphasizing that it serves as an "emergency button" for citizens when their representatives fail to deliver. They highlighted the broader impact of poor governance on the community, including businesses, the economy, and tourism, and stressed that elected officials have a responsibility to address constituent concerns. Erica shared a personal anecdote about being fired from a waitressing job, drawing a parallel to the need for elected officials to deliver on their duties, as failure to do so can have significant consequences.

Recall Election Strategy Discussion

The discussion focused on the recall election of Supervisor Joel Engardio scheduled for September 16, with Richie and Erica discussing the political maneuvering around it. They agreed that while there are valid reasons for the recall, much of the opposition appears to be orchestrated by Supervisor Peskin as a power play against progressive forces. Erica emphasized that voters should focus on the recall's merits rather than being swayed by political tactics, and noted that San Francisco's recall system has proven effective in removing ineffective officials like former DA Chesa Boudin.

Joel Engardio's Recall and Constituent Discontent

Richie and Erica discussed the recall election of Joel Engardio, a San Francisco supervisor. They agreed that Joel's recall was likely due to his inaction on key issues and his dismissive attitude towards constituents. Erica expressed her disappointment in Joel's performance and suggested that he resign before the recall election scheduled for September 16th. They also criticized Joel's recent communications, including a controversial message about change being hard.

San Francisco Supervisor Appointment Speculation

Erica and Richie discussed the potential appointment of a new supervisor for District 6 in San Francisco, following the recall of Supervisor Engardio. They speculated about Mayor Lurie's decision, noting the delicate balance he must strike between progressive and NIMBY interests in the west side of the city. Richie mentioned some potential candidates, including Albert Chow and Gordon Mar, but Erica predicted an unexpected, moderate choice would be appointed. They agreed to continue the discussion in a future podcast episode.




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