S3 E4: Post Super Bowl Wrap. SF Back to Normal!

Richie and Erica review the events of the LX Super Bowl in San Francisco, and how things are quickly back to normal. Also, upcoming conventions and events in the city.

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S 3 E4: Supe Bowl WRapup

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Erica Sandberg: Welcome, everybody, to Really San Francisco, the podcast about what's happening on our streets, in our communities, on our blocks, and to the very people who we absolutely adore, and some who we don't. I am here with my amazing co-host, Richie Greenberg.

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Richie Greenberg: Hello, how's it going, everybody? How are you doing, Erica, today? How are you enjoying Monday, the day after Super Bowl week, Super Bowl weekend, and the Super Bowl? How are you feeling?

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Erica Sandberg: I feel good. I feel so happy that it's all over. I really enjoyed these last few days, essentially. It was 4 or 5 days of hyper intensity. A lot of people came into the city, just many, many thousands.

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Erica Sandberg: a lot of, amazing events, a lot of private events. You and I got to be out there and to share in those, and that was such a joy. It really was. Overall, what did you think?

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, I agree. There was a certain,

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Richie Greenberg: excitement and level of magnetism for the city, that there were a lot of… a lot of comments, a lot of people that were visiting here, either for the first time, or repeat,

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Richie Greenberg: tourists, the sports, tourism, and I got a lot of, a lot of, comments, and how about you? What did you hear?

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Erica Sandberg: So much. We, you and I, we did go to that one event, one of the many. We went to the one that was on Powell Street. It was on the second block of Powell from Market Street, so it was kind of in the thick of the,

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Erica Sandberg: blight, because that's what it is, the blight owl Street from… if people understand the topography of Union Square, it's where Macy's is on that corner, and then it descends down to the cable car turnaround on Market Street.

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Richie Greenberg: So it's basically, it's two… two blocks. Two blocks. Two blocks.

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Erica Sandberg: very, very…

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Erica Sandberg: active and fun, with great bars, great, little shops, a little bit touristy, a little schlocky, but it was super active. I was standing outside, and, there was a…

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Erica Sandberg: cable car going by. It was completely empty, so I was taking pictures of it, and a guy who was standing next to me said, oh, how do you get on one of these things? And then we started chatting. Turned out he was an NFL player.

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Richie Greenberg: Click the results.

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Erica Sandberg: And I captured him on video saying, hey, San Francisco's not as vibrant as I thought it was going to be. And that was the sadness that went around the world, picked up by the New York Post, Yahoo Sports. I almost felt bad for him, because I know that he didn't mean to be critical, but he was being honest.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, yeah, and I agree. You and I, when we started, last week.

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Richie Greenberg: walking around parts of the city as part of the whole Super Bowl preparation.

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Richie Greenberg: And the gatherings and the parties and all of the events.

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Richie Greenberg: we felt that as well. You and I, after that specific, that invite-only party that was on Powell, as we were leaving and we walked towards Union Square itself, the actual square, it was empty. There was nothing going on there. And we were both commenting on how

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Richie Greenberg: If this is the time, right, that you've got the world, at least the nation, people coming in, the media, and tourists, visitors, and people that are excited for the city, for the event, and they come in, and the main gathering place, Union Square, is essentially

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Richie Greenberg: Ghost town.

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Erica Sandberg: Which is appalling, because that is exactly where it should be. Just filled with people, and commerce, and just sort of a sense of being alive.

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Erica Sandberg: And I actually left quite angry, because I was thinking, somebody has truly fallen asleep at the wheel here, and I'm gonna put the blame. I'm going to put the blame on the district supervisor, who is Danny Souder. I reached out to him, got zero response. I absolutely put the blame on even the business community. Where is the Union Square Alliance? Hello?

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Erica Sandberg: Where are you? I know that the CEO makes a decent salary. I know that they have some power.

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Erica Sandberg: What's going on?

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Richie Greenberg: But to be… to play devil's advocate, right? Not that I disagree with you, but there are many people that I've seen on social media chatting with me and elsewhere, they're all saying, you know, the actual game

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Richie Greenberg: Right? The stadium is not here, the stadium… you're rolling your eyes. The stadium is down in Santa Clara, 40 miles away.

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Erica Sandberg: No one cares. I don't care about that one even… just not even a moment there. That's irrelevant.

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Richie Greenberg: Why?

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Erica Sandberg: We had the parties here. It showcased the great scenery, the hills. Everyone was complaining about the hills. Great, great bars. But it also showed, if you just did a little bit of scratching.

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Erica Sandberg: At that surface, it showed the vast emptiness, the closed stores, the lack of people on the street.

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Erica Sandberg: That's… that is the truth. That is the absolute bottom… I don't care where… where the game was played, that's irrelevant to me.

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Richie Greenberg: And that's also because it's considered,

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Richie Greenberg: you know, Mayor, Mayor Lurie here, Daniel Lurie, he was really pushing and promoting San Francisco as being the playground.

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Erica Sandberg: Absolutely, and there were plenty of parties. There were. As you know, we couldn't get to them all. Parties, parties, parties. But that does not translate into leasing these empty buildings, into getting people to come and to move here.

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Erica Sandberg: signing a residential lease, to getting their kids into schools. One of the reasons that we're in the middle right now of a shutdown, of a…

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Richie Greenberg: Mike.

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Erica Sandberg: of the strike is because we have fewer students.

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Erica Sandberg: Right? That's right. For people within that age group who have decided that San Francisco is the place to start a family. So it's really appalling. That is really important, and one of the things we keep doing these band-aids. Oh, here's a Band-Aid! Here's a pop-up. Enough with the pop-ups!

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, yeah, pop up. And also, look at where we were, again, Union Square, and just 2 blocks away was that party, the nighttime party. From there, where was all of the pre…

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Richie Greenberg: game…

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Richie Greenberg: hype. Where was the fan zone? Where was the media center? That was, like, 4 blocks south of there at Moscone Center, at our convention center, the, that area there. That was heavily, patrolled, heavy security.

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Richie Greenberg: Multiple layers of, of checkpoints to get through.

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Richie Greenberg: And that's where the attention was in terms of all the events that were for the public, away from Union Square, away from all the private parties, away from all the gatherings. It was only in a very controlled, perimeter, fortress-like area.

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Erica Sandberg: Yeah, certainly. I mean, and that was done in conjunction with the NFL. This is their baby.

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Erica Sandberg: And sponsors, sponsors, sponsors. They were out there in force. You know, I can't even name them all, but there were plenty. But certainly the city opened up Moscone Center for them, and tons of security. It was super safe, super clean. I actually watched somebody

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Erica Sandberg: scoop up poop, I don't know, human, animal, they don't know, but they dove into action, and they scooped it up, and they sprayed it down, and I was thinking, boy, we need about 9,000 of you to do this.

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Erica Sandberg: It was… it was such a big, big difference. And so, yeah, Super Bowl week, we'll call it that. Oh, and there were great activities. Fisherman's Wharf was popping! .

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Richie Greenberg: A lot of the people who wanted to go to great bars that were in North Beach. North Beach was… you could barely even get down the street. So there was some really good stuff, and it did…

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Erica Sandberg: Pump cash into the city, which is great, but it's not real life.

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Richie Greenberg: So that's… I wanted to talk about that. I was looking at a quote this morning from ABC News, right, where they said that

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Richie Greenberg: The organization that worked in tandem with the NFL to host this and to coordinate all the events was the, Bay Area Host Committee. Everything was, was, branded

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Richie Greenberg: either NFL, right, Super Bowl, or Bay Area Host Committee. So we saw those were the two big organizations.

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Richie Greenberg: So the committee, it says here they've officially handed off the Super Bowl to LA, right, because that's going to be next year.

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Richie Greenberg: And the region, meaning us up here, saw around $500 million of economic impact.

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Richie Greenberg: As a result of this.

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Richie Greenberg: over 100,000 room nights, countless events in the communities, and, they said that, I'm not sure who said this, but someone from the Bay Area Host Committee said that they've donated $10 million back to the community. So that doesn't necessarily mean just San Francisco itself, but the whole region.

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Richie Greenberg: So, it was a half a billion dollars in economic activity. Now, that means what? That means that hotels and restaurants, car rentals,

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Richie Greenberg: I like that.

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Erica Sandberg: You name it, anything having to do with the hospitality industry definitely received a major injection of cash and exhilaration and interest. And, you know, these are people also who will come back.

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Erica Sandberg: So it's not just at that moment, it's, you give a great impression, then they're gonna tell their friends, they'll come back, they'll come back for their honeymoon. All kinds of good things do happen, so I'm never going to denigrate that, ever. What I will say, though, is it leaves us, the residents, as we started

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Erica Sandberg: we started before it all happened. We know what life is like here, right? Then you had this amazing few days, right, of intense activity, and cash, and booked restaurants, and…

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Erica Sandberg: That type of thing, the excitement. And then when they left, we're back… we're back to where we were, which is… which is the reality. The reality is we still have incredible, deep.

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Erica Sandberg: issues to solve. Again, Powell Street, this is the heart of Union Square, is com… it is still empty. It will… it will be empty until leased.

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Richie Greenberg: And then… and then a block or two away from the southern end of Powell, the cable car turnaround, right across the street, tremendous, empty mall, shuttered.

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Erica Sandberg: Yeah. An actual shuttered mall.

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Richie Greenberg: And also, I've been looking at,

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Richie Greenberg: various posts on social media these last day or so, right? And especially after

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Richie Greenberg: the Super Bowl was over last night. And, people are… people who… some of the people who we know, even, are out there posting photos and videos that there's no change. You know, the, Super Bowl is over, but there's still a dysfunction.

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Richie Greenberg: You've got people shooting up, people in their fentanyl fold, attics on the street in squalor. It never went away. It was never corralled, it was never put anywhere.

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Erica Sandberg: Nor do I think that that was ever the intention. It was just, you added, we added all of these… these people and activities and noise. It was all on top of it, so when you… when it's there, you don't see the… the squalor, you don't…

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Erica Sandberg: maybe you don't even smell so much of it, because you've got other smells going on, but when it's gone, it goes… it just reverts. It reverts to the truth, and the truth is this… Now, I actually… you know me, Richie, I have a very hard time existing solely on negativity. It starts to… it starts to make me feel a bit sick after a while. I really do want to focus.

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Erica Sandberg: Also, on the very real positive, that was a good event, but it really does for us, for people who live here, it does show that

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Erica Sandberg: We can, we can, with enough people, and enough energy, and enough cash, and enough interest. There is so much that we can do here that can…

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Erica Sandberg: Our city into what it should be.

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Erica Sandberg: 364 days out of the year.

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Richie Greenberg: And we know that there was that famous quote a couple of years ago from Gavin Newsom when he was visiting San Francisco.

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Richie Greenberg: Right around the time that the apec

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Richie Greenberg: Right, the, convention. That was the…

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Richie Greenberg: gathering of, of, the Asian Pacific Rim countries.

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Richie Greenberg: came for a political… a summit here that San Francisco was the host. And it was a similar kind of lockdown, but even more security, because you had heads of state, you had presidents and prime ministers came in here, too.

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Richie Greenberg: And at a news conference, Gavin Newsom said, well, yeah, we cleaned up the area because we could.

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Richie Greenberg: And we could, and then as soon as it was over, right back to all the squalor right before that it was. And he got a lot of flack.

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Erica Sandberg: It's like an abusive relationship. You can get slapped around most of the time, but then they pat you on the head and kind of give you a lollipop, and you're supposed to be satisfied. Well, that's not how it works. You know, you need to be treated well.

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Erica Sandberg: All the time. All the time. And not just for dignitaries, but for real people. So, I say there's positives and negatives about that. It shows that the city can do it, if there is interest, if they really want to.

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Erica Sandberg: And when that doesn't happen, it really does become an insult. Like, you did it for them, but not for us? What are we?

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Richie Greenberg: That's right, yeah, that's right. We're the ones that live here. We're here 365 days a year. We're the ones that are paying all of the taxes, property taxes, and sales tax, and all of that to sustain the government.

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Richie Greenberg: We… we hoped that we would be treated a little bit better than that.

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Erica Sandberg: So I would say if anybody

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Erica Sandberg: out there listening, if you're kind of nodding your head, and you're thinking, yeah, right, exactly. Remember, this is something that you can always pull out. This is your, you did it for them, why not us? Where are you with it? And I say pull that out on a regular basis, because that is, that is a fact.

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Erica Sandberg: Super Bowl's gone, it's all over, it's back to reality. What's next? We got some stuff going on. One project that… so I'm gonna transition now, Richie.

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Richie Greenberg: Yes.

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Erica Sandberg: We're gonna talk about what's, what's, what's going on.

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Erica Sandberg: about 6 years ago, there was a youth hostel called the Ansonia on Post Street, and…

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Erica Sandberg: it was hit hard with the pandemic, where it closed down, the city shut it down. I always say it's not the pandemic, it's a response to it. The city took… took…

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Erica Sandberg: took that situation and said, we're gonna change San Francisco, we're gonna take advantage of the situation, and we're going to turn this adorable.

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Erica Sandberg: little youth hostel that was super close to Union Square.

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Erica Sandberg: And we're gonna turn it into a homeless shelter, and residents, we don't care about you. We don't… who cares what you think? This is what we want to do. And that's what HSH did. That's what they did. They railroaded this through. They promised

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Erica Sandberg: Promised!

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Erica Sandberg: And I'm telling you, they gave it, they gave it all. I've got… I've got tons of emails showing, it's going to be clean, it's going to be well managed, there's going to be security outside. If any problems arise, residents will be able to contact this number, and they'll be able to have resolution right away. None of it happened. Wow.

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Erica Sandberg: contract is going to be up for renewal in March, I believe on the 31st. So there is this flurry of activity going, we're done here. Take it away. You tried it, it failed, you heard us.

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Erica Sandberg: we're not going to… we're angry, and we're not going to take it anymore. So, that is definitely coming up. Pay attention, because this is where people can actually make a difference in their communities. You can stand up and say, yeah, no.

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Richie Greenberg: Wow. So, so that is a call to, call to action, call to arms, to, for… how can we voice our,

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Richie Greenberg: our, our sentiment to this? How can we…

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Erica Sandberg: Yes, on Thursday, this Thursday, so what is the date on that? I believe that's the 12th, so if we can get this out soon, there is going to be, a hearing about this at City Hall, Room 250. You can go there, and you can, and you can voice your opinion, and say, listen.

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Erica Sandberg: This is my experience. This is when I… I walk by there all the time, and it's just mayhem.

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Erica Sandberg: Tell them what you see.

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Richie Greenberg: What it really is on your mind.

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Erica Sandberg: Yeah, that's on your mind, and it's being part of the process. So that's just one… one little thing. It's not even a little, but that is… that is one…

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Erica Sandberg: event that's coming up, is really start… I would say start taking control, go to these meetings, go on the Board of Supervisors website and see what's happening in your area, and start making noise. This is…

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Richie Greenberg: That's excellent, excellent. What I'm gonna do is I'm also gonna take… I'm going to take an outtake, a excerpt from this video, from our episode right now, that talks just about that, and I'm gonna put that up also as a call to action.

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Richie Greenberg: No.

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Erica Sandberg: And bef- That's why… that is why I'm wearing my vintage San Francisco sweatshirt.

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Richie Greenberg: Vintage! That's 2021, 2022, that's a recall.

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Erica Sandberg: Jessa Bodine recall sweatshirt.

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Richie Greenberg: From the recall team.

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Erica Sandberg: That is excellent.

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Erica Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: Love it.

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Erica Sandberg: It is a symbol to me of what people can do when they come together and they fight for what they believe, what they know.

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Richie Greenberg: is right for their community.

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Erica Sandberg: And in this case, in our city. And it did work, and Chester Boudin was recalled. That's right. There's… you have a lot of power, but you have to flex it, so take out those arms and work them out.

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Richie Greenberg: Now, I'll mention one thing that's coming up as well that we haven't talked about as we come to the end of our, our episode today. Something is happening in two weeks, not this weekend, but the next weekend, around February 20th or so. There's another convention coming to San Francisco.

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Richie Greenberg: It is the Democratic Party!

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Richie Greenberg: The meeting, the convention, 3 days, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

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Richie Greenberg: And it is the state, California state, Democratic Party Convention. So they're going to have not only local and regional, but state candidates will be there in force. We know we've got a governor's race that's coming up, so there are going to be gubernatorial…

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Richie Greenberg: candidates. But also, I have seen there would be people on the national level would also be there just to talk. Pelosi's going to be there, and others. So, stay tuned, everybody, to see whether or not Eric and I are going to be reporting from there as well.

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Richie Greenberg: Back in 2018, 2019 or so, that was before the presidential, though, so that brought out presidential candidates, so right now we don't have that at the moment.

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Richie Greenberg: But, I was there, back then, and it was… the city turned into, venues, again, just like the NFL Super Bowl. Different clubs, different venues around San Francisco back then became

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Richie Greenberg: meeting places, meet and greets for these national figures. So we'll see what happens if it's going to be similar. If not, then it will be in 2 years from now. And I'm sure, Erica, you and I will be, we'll be there in 2 years, but… so now we only have to worry about 2 weeks from now, and so we'll let everybody know how that turns out.

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Richie Greenberg: Alright?

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Erica Sandberg: So nice to be independent, so we can kind of float in and out. I'm personally independent, so for me, I'm no party preference. I like to jump in and jump out, and that's really good. And you do mention also that, that is coming up, but other conventions are coming up, too. There's the Game Developers Convention, which is

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Erica Sandberg: enormous, that's also going to be at Moscone Center, so you're also going to see a little bit of cleaning up for that as well, but you'll see a lot of people. So, we are… we are progressing. I do have to say, we are progressing. Apparently, we're taking up the slack from Las Vegas, which has lost some convention business because of various reasons.

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Erica Sandberg: So…

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Erica Sandberg: You know, I think it's great, we're gonna be the go-to place for many different things, but let's just really keep it up. I mean, if you're interested… Oh, and then,

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Erica Sandberg: we did just touch on a little bit about San Francisco Center, which is now closed. They locked it up, and the key's in somebody's hand.

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Richie Greenberg: And they threw out the stragglers, the last few businesses that were refusing to leave.

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Richie Greenberg: They didn't want to leave, yeah.

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Erica Sandberg: there is that, bar, cafe, meeting house, community space called Manny's, and I'm sorry, I go onto their website, you'll see that there is an upcoming discussion about what the city has in store for

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Erica Sandberg: for the San Francisco Center. So you may want to go, just so that you can ask questions of the people who are actually making these.

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Richie Greenberg: decisions. I'm certainly interested, so I'm going, you'll see me there. Sorry, I can't remember the exact date for it, but…

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Richie Greenberg: And Manny's, as… it's interesting you brought up Manny's, because a couple of things. First of all, that was one of the locations back in 2018, 2019, that these national candidates running for president were there. They were, there having different time slots to.

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Richie Greenberg: to, to pitch themselves to whoever would show up. And also, the owner, Manny, Manny Yakutiel is his last name, he's running for supervisor, actually, this year. So he's running to, to succeed,

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Richie Greenberg: Raphael Mandelman, which was, District 8? Not 6, District.

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Erica Sandberg: Eights, yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah. So he himself, the owner, is running for office. So, okay, on that note, Erica, it was a pleasure to chat with you, as always. Yep. And, you want to take it out?

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Erica Sandberg: To the… to the pitfalls. We'll… we will be there! Thank you so much, Richie, for all that you do, and being out there, and always willing to put your… your amazing animal print jacket on.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, I wore that the other day. That's funny. Thank you so much, then, and thanks, everybody, for watching and listening, and we'll bring you another exciting episode shortly. And this is really San Francisco from San Francisco, of course. Thanks, everybody. Thank you.