S3 E9: Two for Friday: The Mission Good and Bad. Drugs and Food.

Richie and Erica relate each of their recent experiences visiting The Mission district this week. Enjoying a great evening dinner on Valencia Street, and just blocks away, the humanitarian disaster of open drug dealing, sales of stolen merchandise and drug paraphernalia distribution at 16th and Mission. It's a Two for Friday episode.

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Really, San Francisco? Podcast

Friday March 20, 2026

S3 Episode 9

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Welcome to Really San Francisco, the podcast about all things our fair city, the 415 Baghdad by the Bay. I am here with my amazing co-host, Richie Greenberg.

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Richie Greenberg: Hey there, how are you? And Fog City as well.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Oh, I'm sitting!

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Richie Greenberg: That's another one. The San Fran… Frisco! Frisco… Oh, no. No, no, no, no, we don't say that at Frisco.

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Richie Greenberg: In doubt, when in doubt, locals and tourists, just say San Francisco.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: Or SF, I guess, kind of works.

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Richie Greenberg: This doesn't roll off the tongue like LA does, you know?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No, and I'm also not a big fan of San Fran, I don't know, it's just not… yeah, but whatever, that's fine.

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Richie Greenberg: So, how are you doing today? It's wonderful, May 20th… I'm sorry, yeah, March 20th. March 20th, the summer solstice, I think, was today as well. No, spring solstice.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: You're in vague.

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Richie Greenberg: I'm really enjoying it, too.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I don't know where you are, Richie.

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Richie Greenberg: Well, why? Because it's so warm today that this whole week has been, like, 80-something degrees. It'll go back down to normal, I think, over the weekend and foreseeable future, but it's warm. Everyone is out. Windows in the houses are open, believe it or not. In your place, too. I'm assuming the windows are…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Definitely.

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Richie Greenberg: We all have natural air conditioning, but everyone t-shirts and shorts and flip-flops, and heading to the beach, heading to Ocean Beach, and heading to…

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Richie Greenberg: Everywhere, just to be a little cooler, but yeah, we're having a little bit of heat wave, and that's why I'm in the summer mode prematurely. So, what are our… what are we doing today? What's our topic's topic today?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, so today we're talking about La Mission, the mission. You know, I've got the world's worst pronunciation, but the mission! The mission is a really interesting place. It's definitely a land of dichotomies, and that's what we're going to be talking about today.

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Richie Greenberg: Boom.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Indeed.

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Richie Greenberg: because we were both in the mission in the last few days, and we both have experiences. Now, just, again, our podcast, our show, the Really San Francisco, highlights the good and the bad of the city. So, today's episode, I will be talking about the good.

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Richie Greenberg: something that I discovered that is good, and you will be talking about something that's bad, not so good, both in both the mission.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, definitely. So where should we start? Do you want to do good? Do you want to do bad first?

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Richie Greenberg: How about you go, you do bad, and then I can follow up with good to try and give a little bit end-of-the-week feeling that it's, like, not everything is doomed.

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Richie Greenberg: And June… I like that. Well, not June, yeah, June gloom, right?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No glue right now.

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Richie Greenberg: Oh, I know, wow. Okay, so what, what happened?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: to her!

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Richie Greenberg: you had to.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, definitely. So on Wednesday, there was a call-out for a protest, regarding the Gubio Project, which is a homeless shelter. It's on 16th.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and Julian, which is, like, between… Julian is an alley, or it's not really an alley, but it's a very small street. Yeah, yeah, and it's between Mission.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and Valencia. So we're going to talk about Valencia in a moment. So this was that… this was that sort of dividing line. It's a small, tree-lined street. You can sort of imagine it as it was before the nightmare that has befallen it, which is, bucolic, quiet, very residential, a little bit of… a little bit of a…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: like, there's an auto body shop there, but it's just… it's very serene. Unfortunately, it's not actually serene, because the issue is the Gubbio project has

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: become, in the eyes of the community, of people on that block and in that area, to be the focal point for terrible, terrible street conditions. And it is true, I've been there many times. I think you have been there as well, right?

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Richie Greenberg: Not for a while, no.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay.

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Richie Greenberg: Relying on, on your, relating the, the.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So, residents have really complained for a long time about the… this… the way this street has taken an awful, awful turn. It's… and they're not exaggerating, they're not making this up.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: every time I've been there, it's… it's actually rather shocking, hard to describe, because it's one of those things, it's very, you need all of your senses, put into place with the smells and the, the kind of level of, also, danger.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, on Danger too, yeah.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, it's… it's very much of a drug haven. Very different, actually, from the Tenderloin, so I could talk about that, but certainly this is a mecca. It is a… it is a focal point for the drug community, because the Gubio project, for a long time, was sort of a de facto

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: drug consumption site. So they were giving out, drug paraphernalia, anything that they can,

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: that people can use in order to use their drugs. So, everything from…

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Richie Greenberg: location mean people would go there and use it on the premises, or they would get their paraphernalia and leave?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Harm reduction would be supplied there, so these supplies, these, these, the apparatus, from the fentanyl foil, to the meth pipes, to the crack pipes…

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Richie Greenberg: This is like a kit for the users.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, just sort of whatever they needed.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: yeah, whatever they needed to use, that the Gubbio project would be providing it to them. They also have…

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Richie Greenberg: And that's… some of it has to do with your… the word harm reduction, which has become really demonized now over the… lately, realizing it's not really reducing harm.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It's a misnomer, for sure.

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Richie Greenberg: But also, it goes along with, well, safe supply, meaning here's safe, clean, new, packaged stuff.

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Richie Greenberg: a kit for you to do your drugs, rather than sharing old things. Old needles, old pipes, whatever. I think that is what the idea was supposed to be years ago, right? Have a fresh, new use kit.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, so the supply really is… that's referring to the actual drugs, and that is something that other countries have attempted to do, which is, here's some clean fentanyl, or some clean cocaine, so that you don't overdose. But this, they don't… we don't have the legislation in place in order for them to do it, but we do do

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: harm reduction supplies, so these are just the things that people need in order to do their drugs. So, that's what we have. So…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Lots of stuff has gone on, they're not necessarily allowed to do it, they need to be pushing recovery and treatment and counseling and that, etc.

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Richie Greenberg: Abstinence.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, yeah, it's not really happening. It is a disaster around the Gubio project. They're sleeping… Yeah, so let me finish this.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, so people can sleep there during the day, and at night, I think they still congregate out there. So it was supposed to be a board meeting.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: for whatever reason, there was a strange explanation. Lydia Branson runs the place. She was saying that somebody died and wasn't able to go, and, right, and so that the board meeting was canceled, but she started answering questions anyway. The point is, people were really upset. The community members did arrive. I talked to this really amazing guy. I didn't get his name, unfortunately, but he was an old punk rocker.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: really active in San Francisco politics back in the day, and he is livid, jumping up and down, going… well, not jumping up and down, but figuratively. But really saying, this is wrong, this is… this is how this has operated, has hurt the community, it's hurt us, they're not listening. Jackie Fielder, who is the area's

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: that district's supervisor has done absolutely nothing. He says.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, that she… yeah, and that she completely ignores everybody. He said the only thing she cares about is unions and her DSA project. So, really not there for the community. It was really surprising to hear coming from him. So, we took a little walk around, a few of us, Gina from Mothers Against Drug Addictions and Death, and a few other people, and we went to 16th and Mission.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It's a disaster. Richie, it is an absolute disaster. I really want to bring people into the fold about what this…

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Richie Greenberg: 16th and Mission, right? You have the main, this is the heart of the Mission District.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yes. They call it the plaza. Yeah, so it's.

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Richie Greenberg: It's the flat plaza that is around the BART station.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yes, yeah, so it's a big expanse of an area. A lot can go on in that area. It's right at the BART station.

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Richie Greenberg: So you went from… From Julian, from the Gubia Project.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, it's half a block away.

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Richie Greenberg: Go away over to the, to the BART station, basically.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: And that whole thing.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, and I think…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I think what's really important, people, is that you… first of all, I think everyone should go there. I really do. I think it's really important. Get your feet… get your feet in motion, head on over, and you can see it for yourself. I'm not exaggerating, I do not exaggerate, ever. If anything, I would actually be putting a prettier picture, because I don't want people to think of San Francisco as being such a nightmare. That's a nightmare, though. That area, it is filled with people who are selling stolen goods, it is filled with people who are selling

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and using drugs. It is filled with people who are in all states of unconsciousness.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and mental illness, and undress, especially in this hot weather. Dogs who are being neglected. We saw two beautiful white Alsatians there, panting, and one of the women who I was with, she went over to them and she said, can I just please give your dog some water? And the guy basically said, get the hell away from me. So, it is… it is… the whole thing is just vile. It smells so

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: so bad of fecal matter, of garbage. Oh, and then here I am saying you should go, yes, I do. Yes, I do, because I think it's really important.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But it's like.

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Richie Greenberg: Go there, see it with your eyes.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Beautiful.

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Richie Greenberg: it, smell it. Take pictures and photos or videos, right?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's correct.

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Richie Greenberg: Prove it and show what's going on, because

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Richie Greenberg: We know, Eric and I, that for years, we have been screaming from the rooftops about what's happening in San Francisco, and people say, no, you're wrong, it's not happening, you're exaggerating. Say, no, go there, because this is one of the ground zeros along with the Tenderloin.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yes.

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Richie Greenberg: Now, you go to Golden Gate Park, and it looks great. You go to other parts of the city, it looks great. The beach, now, near Golden Gate, Golden Gate Bridge, that's all nice and curated for us, and you've got the wonderful view of the Golden Gate Bridge right behind you.

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Richie Greenberg: But that's your background.

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Richie Greenberg: But you go to where people congregate in the mission, a transit area, right, because that's where the BART station is, and then you get to see the reality that we're talking about, the humanitarian disaster, and you get to see the inaction, not the inaction, but in action, you get to see how taxpayers are funding a lot of this as well.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, definitely. And then you've got the nonprofits who are just rogue. Food Not Bombs was there, and they've been around for a long time. I volunteered way back when, when I was in college. Don't remember what I did, I don't know, I did something, but… but they were handing out,

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: fentanyl foil and, various other drug use supplies. They're not supposed to be doing that, but they were doing it. It's just… it really is a free-for-all, and I think if the city

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: refuses to clean it up, it should become a tourist attraction.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Put it on… put it on the map. Have people from Wichita and, London.

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Richie Greenberg: Munich, everywhere.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Absolutely.

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Richie Greenberg: Thank you.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: We bring them through and say, this is how we treat… this is what we do. This is how we treat people.

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Richie Greenberg: Here it is, told ya. That's right!

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, that's my… that's my thumbs down for the week.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Richie?

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Richie Greenberg: Whoa.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: thumbs up.

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Richie Greenberg: Alright, so, within blocks of where you were experiencing this, tragedy, I was, out with family on Tuesday evening. Tuesday was, St. Patrick's Day as well.

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Richie Greenberg: So, I went out to dinner, and it was, right around 7, 7.30, and we went to Valencia Street, Valencia, 17th, 18th Av… 18th Street, I should say. Yeah, not far from where you were, probably just, screams away.

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Richie Greenberg: And it was a warm night, as we've had for the last couple of nights.

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Richie Greenberg: And we went for dinner, and the place was packed. You'd have no idea, if you were walking up and down Valencia Street, which for years has been a very popular go-to place, where it had trendy cafes and bars and other shops and stuff.

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Richie Greenberg: I know it went through difficulty right around COVID, but it has come back.

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Richie Greenberg: And every single restaurant was packed with people waiting outside. And we went.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: What time did you get there?

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Richie Greenberg: About 7.45, approximately. I'd say 7.45. So, it has just, you know, sunset. It has already been starting to get dark at that point.

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Richie Greenberg: And, we got a table sitting outside on the sidewalk, not in the park, the little parklet area, but on the sidewalk.

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Richie Greenberg: And, really good meal. It was, I'll say it, right, Anatolian, table, so it's, Turkish.

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Richie Greenberg: And, that block right there has

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Richie Greenberg: this restaurant, which used to be a popular, pizza, Italian place, it was called Yellow something or other, I forgot what it was.

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Richie Greenberg: And then, really close by, there's a Korean street food, there's craftsmen and wolves, there's souvlas, there's dandelion chocolates. It's right all within, right there.

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Richie Greenberg: And the thing that impressed upon me the most was just how vibrant, how many people were out there. So, all different ages, I'd say it was skewed from probably late 20s to 40s, somewhere around there.

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Richie Greenberg: But it was vibrant, and it was alive, and people were out, and happy, and talking, and drinking, and eating, and just enjoying being out and being together.

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Richie Greenberg: And… and that was wonderful. So that's the good, you know, the good and the bad today. This was the good. And this is what we've been hoping for, this is what we've wanted.

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Richie Greenberg: But I will say two things. First of all, it's very isolated, because this is only within a few blocks on Valencia Street. This is not… the whole city has been revitalized. It's just that particular restaurant row neighborhood.

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Richie Greenberg: Just like what we've seen in North Beach. Our Little Italy, we see that. Also, you've got it jam-packed, but just within a few blocks. Then the marina, same thing, along either Chestnut or Union Street for a few blocks. Out here in the Richmond District, on Clement Street, we see it, just for a few blocks, or Balboa.

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Richie Greenberg: And a few other areas, but maybe West Portal, probably. But what… the point is that the whole city is not entirely vitalized. It's just a couple of key blocks and restaurants, and that's why it's packed. But nevertheless, it was wonderful.

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Richie Greenberg: The second thing is, this amazing feeling to be out with all these people was only a block or two away from where you were, where you experienced this humanitarian disaster, and that is the…

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Richie Greenberg: the dichotomy, right? That's the juxtaposition that here in San Francisco, people can come in and enjoy what makes life great, right, here in the city, right? And they can go hiking, and they can live here, and then be completely oblivious to what's just happening a block away.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, 100%.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And I think that's why it's really important to broaden your footsteps, and not just see the bad, and not just see the good. Really take a look at everything that's there, but you made it… you were telling me earlier, Richie, that at 9 o'clock, the sidewalks kind of rolled up a bit.

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Richie Greenberg: Well, that too, and statistically, it's been shown that San Francisco has one of the earliest end of restaurant service, you know, the closing time, so 9, 9.30, it's quiet, it's dead. Now, maybe it was because it was a weekday, I don't know, possible.

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Richie Greenberg: But with so many people that, either work from home or, you know, or tourists or visitors or stuff.

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Richie Greenberg: I… I don't know, but it was completely dead. By 9.30 or so, we were on our way back to the car after… after our dinner.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: This is also, traditionally, as we know, the very slowest time for tourism. The time, well, the dates of the very end of January to the

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Beginning of spring is quiet.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So, hey, if you want to come and you want to get great rates on hotels, this is probably the time. That's right, that's right. Now, I do want to say that the area where you kind of were in on 7… I think it's on 17th, 17th and Valencia is my favorite.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: favorite bar, Blondie's Bar and No Grill.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: great place, and they just recently started taking cards up until just, I don't know, not long ago.

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Richie Greenberg: 20 years old, cash only?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: X2, could you ever write a check?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Not I don't know, but I do know that they've got this amazing, extensive list of super creative martinis, and do not have more than one. I promise you take my advice.

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Richie Greenberg: And we're all about martinis, too.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Oh, so good.

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Richie Greenberg: Haha, okay.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So good. Icy cold melon Martini, oh my goodness, it is just perfect. So, okay, we did the good, excuse me, we did the bad. We did the good. We did a couple of warnings. I do want to say, if anybody does.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Hit… Listen to this before tomorrow.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: something special is happening in the city. The Bay Bridge lights are coming back on. So if you loved that gorgeous light show with the lights that would trickle up and trickle down and have different patterns, starting tomorrow, they do go back, and I am very excited about it, because I think it's absolutely gorgeous, and it's free. Go hang out in front of you. You could go to Epic Steakhouse. I believe that Mayor Lori is going to be there today, welcoming them in.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But go, just stand outside and watch it. It's, it's stunning.

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Richie Greenberg: Great, alright. So, we'll wrap up another fun show, another episode of, Really San Francisco, and do you want to take it out, Erica?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I do. Thank you so much to all of our amazing listeners. We absolutely value you. We love it when you make comments, suggestions, complaints, I don't care what it is, but definitely…

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Richie Greenberg: Don't complain about us, complain about the city, not us.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Of course.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So, so, again, always, never, ever, ever feel, hesitant to reach out. Let us know what you think. Let us know what you want to hear. This is what we're here for, because our aim, as Richie will probably say, is to tell you the real story of San Francisco. It's what we do, what we know.

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Richie Greenberg: That's right. Thank you, everybody, for joining. It's Friday, March 20th, and we look forward to another fun episode coming up next week sometime, and watch out for us. You can always find us online at reallySFNews.com. That's our new, right? ReallySFNews.com.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And can people reach out through… to us from there now?

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Richie Greenberg: I believe so.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay, good.

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Richie Greenberg: But even if not, you follow us, either of us on X on Twitter. I'm Greenberg Nation, and Erica, you're Erica J. Sandberg on X Twitter.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's right.

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Richie Greenberg: Alright. That's great. Thanks, everybody.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Thank you all, bye-bye!

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Richie Greenberg: Okay.

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