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Wiener the Schmuck

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Erica and Richie slam CA state senator Scott Wiener and call him out over his response to the horrendous harassment incident which occurred in San Francisco over SF Gat Pride Weekend June 26-28, 2026. The background ot the indecent, the theories behind it and how Wiener is simp bad news as a candidate for congress overall. (warning: profanity)

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Really, San Francisco? Podcast

June 29 2026

CA Satte Senator Scott Wiener, the Schmuck.


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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Welcome to Really San Francisco! Hey, Richie! So glad to have you back!

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Richie Greenberg: Hey, thank you. It's been a very long two weeks, and I know that, we have a lot to talk about, and…

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Richie Greenberg: And to catch up on, and you know, even listeners and viewers have been reaching out wondering, where are we? Where's the next episode? Well, here it is, and welcome everybody to Really San Francisco, the podcast that's talking about everything San Francisco and beyond.

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Richie Greenberg: So, Erica, what, what are your thoughts? What have we, what's big in the news that we're going to be talking about today?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So much has happened while you were cavorting in Rome and Montreal, having a great old time. Meanwhile, the city was, was in,

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: a riot. We were having a riot. It was… it's pretty crazy, so… But okay, I can't remember, what did you… what did you get back, Richie?

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Richie Greenberg: So, I got back, today's what, Monday? I got back late, late, late Saturday, evening.

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Richie Greenberg: From Montreal. I was there for 4 days, 3 nights, right in the city center, right in the downtown city of Montreal. I've never been there before, and

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Richie Greenberg: There was the, Jazz Festival, if you're familiar with the French Quarter Fest, or Jazz Fest in New Orleans, and, you know, main cities around the country, around the world, they have their own little variations, and not so little, also.

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Richie Greenberg: And, this was Montreal's. And I didn't know what was going on, I didn't plan it that way, it just happened to be that when I was passing through, it happened.

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Richie Greenberg: And the, the hotel that I was at, the Doubletree, was right at Ground Zero. It was an amazing place to have booked, again, not knowing that that was right there, but the rates weren't crazy high.

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Richie Greenberg: And, there were…

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Richie Greenberg: it's going on for, I think, 10 days, and the music was really good, a lot of unknown bands to me, to us, because they're not, you know, necessarily, American, they're French, they're…

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Richie Greenberg: other countries, they're British, they're Canadian, so they have their own flavor, and a lot of it was really good. I'd even be willing to do, like, an episode or to write up something about that kind of

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Richie Greenberg: Event separately, but coming.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: you know, going to Montreal, that was actually the return for me being in Rome. Yes, Rome, Italy, for 10 days before that. So I went on this… the 14th of June all the way until just a few days ago.

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Richie Greenberg: And, that was amazing. I've never been to Rome either. And that was, with a family celebration, a wedding, and people from all over flew in from France and from here.

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Richie Greenberg: from California and everywhere we went over there, and as you and everyone who's paying attention has been hearing about the weather, it was extremely, very hot there, mid to upper 90s, and walking around

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Richie Greenberg: and taking taxis around the, the historic city center of Rome and all other sites and historic things. It was, it was really difficult. You had to have reservations to go into some of these things, and it was,

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Richie Greenberg: The only thing that was available at times was mid to later afternoon, which is the height of the heat.

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Richie Greenberg: So…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Did it… did it tamper the crowds at all? Because, I mean, Rome can get really crowded.

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Richie Greenberg: I mean, I've never been there before to gauge, but no, like, in the Colosseum, there were, you know, thousands of people there wandering around and going on tours.

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Richie Greenberg: We went to the Spanish Steps, we went to, all the different, all the different places there that, we… the one good thing that we did is, we booked a private, a private golf course, golf

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Richie Greenberg: cart-based tour. So we had a tour guide that had a, electric, six-person, golf cart that are street legal there, and we were able to go around and see all the major sites, at least from the outside. It was 3 hours.

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Richie Greenberg: And even in the heat, it was okay, because we have the breeze, we were covered overhead, and we went to the Vatican, took some…

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Richie Greenberg: pictures outside the Vatican. So we get… it's kind of like what you see here in San Francisco with the open-top hop-on, hop-off buses. So this wasn't exactly hop-off, but we were able to stop and take pictures, and had a really great tour guide, so…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, those are cool. Yeah, we did that in Lisbon. But let's get to it. We have.

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Richie Greenberg: Let's go.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So much to cover. Okay, so you missed the crescendo of Pride Month, which happened while you were gone, but you just got back for the March.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: well…

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Richie Greenberg: I was… I was still watching what was going on.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I'm still paying…

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Richie Greenberg: attention. You know, you've got, there is internet over there in Italy and Montreal, so, Montreal, as they.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay.

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Richie Greenberg: And I saw what was happening.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: what quickly happened. Senator Scott Weiner, who was in Dolores Park, he was there, and,

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: he was essentially mobbed by some people who were screaming at him, throwing out accusations, following him, threatening. It looked…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: ugly.

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Richie Greenberg: And they were telling him, telling him that he doesn't belong, that he needs to get out, right?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's right.

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Richie Greenberg: That's right. Now, how important… To this whole story is that we say who it was

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Richie Greenberg: in general, that were accosting and harassing him. It wasn't just…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Extremely. It's vital. It's vital. Everybody keep… not everybody, but a lot of media outlets have gotten it wrong. Pundits gotten it wrong. These are lunatics. These are homegrown

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Our… our people who are doing this… you and I have encountered them many times throughout the years. They are insane. They are not just anti-Semitic, if you want to say just in front of that. They are… they…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: They don't put two and two together very well. Yeah, no.

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Richie Greenberg: So let's…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And they're not saved.

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Richie Greenberg: No, they're not. And let's look at this, you know, with realistic glasses on now, right? So, Scott Weiner is a champion of the LGBTQIA+, and all the abbreviations and stuff, and…

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Richie Greenberg: So, this was a trans event.

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Richie Greenberg: Right? And it was, trans gathering, trans march, the staging area, and… and Scott Weiner…

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Richie Greenberg: finds himself, whether he did it on purpose, or just the way it happened, organically, he's walking through an area,

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Richie Greenberg: and alone, and gets accosted by the trans individuals. Not just the simply L, lesbian or gay. These were the trans extremists.

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Richie Greenberg: And that needs to be pointed out over and over again, the trans extremists.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and their allies. This doesn't.

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Richie Greenberg: And.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: All of them, alright.

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Richie Greenberg: right.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: and I hate the word ally, I really do. God help me if I'm ever called an ally. I'm not an ally, I'm a friend, or I believe in something, but an ally…

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Richie Greenberg: How about, how about a…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I can support something, because then you can pull it back and go, okay, you no longer have my support. I mean, it's much more fluid.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I like business. But, yeah, for sure, so it was…

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Richie Greenberg: Two at once.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: community.

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Richie Greenberg: And…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But also, they're, they're hangers-on, and… right.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, so… so that's what happens. He is recorded… cowering.

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Richie Greenberg: Walking very despondently, very, you know, like a puppy with the tail between the legs, trying to walk away from this all.

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Richie Greenberg: And he's yelled at, he's screamed at, he's accused, he's being thrown out. He's saying, you know, you don't belong here. Fuck you, Scott Weiner, and all of this. So, yeah.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It got worse and worse.

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Richie Greenberg: It's worse and worse and worse.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: the more he ran, the more he put his head down, the more he looked scared, the worse it got for him, and that really made me angry. And I gotta tell you, Richie, it didn't make me angry necessarily for the people who were doing it, because they're already bad people, they're just… they're not worth a whole lot.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: In any, in any case, right? But…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Where… where's the stones on this guy? Why did he not stand up? He looks like such…

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Richie Greenberg: Such a wuss, a whim for a poor little fucking schmuck.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Thank you.

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Richie Greenberg: a putz, and… and…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: A coward!

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Richie Greenberg: a coward, and I have seen… I mean, we can keep going on with just unleashing the words against the…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No problem!

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Richie Greenberg: because Well.

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Richie Greenberg: You know, I saw, and one of our friends, mutual friends, Mark, he, he created a really good, image meme of, of this. So…

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Richie Greenberg: if you look at and if you portray the extremists, the trans extremist individuals as Frankenstein, right? So you have Scott Weiner, who created or embraced

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Richie Greenberg: embraced the extremist Frankenstein, and now Frankenstein has now come back to attack the creator. So, I think it's very appropriate in this case, because you see, this is a Frankenstein, right? And they're coming back at Scott.

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Richie Greenberg: Why, though, Erica?

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Richie Greenberg: Why are they attacking him when he has been their supporter, their champion, their ally, their friend? Because he's not trans. Why are they attacking him?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It's complicated, but one thing for sure, he's Jewish, and he did not condemn Israel.

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Richie Greenberg: enough. That's right. We did, but not enough.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: did, but not enough. That's right. Exactly, because that's the whole thing. It's never enough. It's never enough.

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Richie Greenberg: Yep, yep, because at one point.

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Richie Greenberg: in past history, Scott was a member of the California Jewish Legislative Caucus, so it's a bunch of Jews that get together and their allies in Sacramento to create legislation from a Jewish perspective.

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Richie Greenberg: So, and Scott, as we know, over the past, has run around to different synagogues, and different Jewish events, and Hanukkah.

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Richie Greenberg: Hanukkah candlelighting events and all of that, to be part and integrated and show his integration with the Jewish community. And he's never hidden that. But, for some reason now, in the last 6 months to a year, where he has, launched his,

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Richie Greenberg: his campaign to run for Congress to succeed Nancy Pelosi, to take her seat.

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Richie Greenberg: and hopefully win her seat from his perspective, not mine, but his. He's distancing himself from Judaism. He is distancing himself from Israel.

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Richie Greenberg: from, Zionism, from support for Israel and all of that, and that famous event that happened earlier this year, where he…

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Richie Greenberg: Flip-flopped and changed his mind at a,

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Richie Greenberg: at a campaign, you know, actually, it was a candidate forum where he first didn't want to say that Israel was committing a genocide, then he created a little video follow-up afterwards and said, yes, he has reflected on this, and now

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Richie Greenberg: Israel is committing a genocide, and that… that basically threw all of his Jewish supporters

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Richie Greenberg: the Jewish voters of San Francisco, he threw under the bus, he was forced to resign from the Jewish Legislative Caucus, and more. And a lot of the Jewish organizations condemned him, so now he lost

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Richie Greenberg: Maybe. He lost a Jewish vote, but for sure, he has really pissed us off.

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Richie Greenberg: Including me.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I'm disgusted with the lack of conviction, the lack of character. You either believe something or you don't, and you don't throw everything away just so that you can get a vote. That… it just… it's really.

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Richie Greenberg: And that's exactly what he did. What an asshole move to do that against Jews here. Us Jews.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And what did it do for him? Right? Then you still get screamed at, you still get, attacked.

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Richie Greenberg: It's not…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: going to stop, so you may as well just be.

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Richie Greenberg: And he's learning this, you know, he's learning this, and, you know, wouldn't it be interesting to see him now flip-flop back?

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Richie Greenberg: Because he realized now that it's not helping him.

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Richie Greenberg: That, he has been,

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Richie Greenberg: you know, genuinely or insincerely, saying that it was a genocide. Well, now it's not a genocide, so he's gonna come back again, swing the pendulum all the way back to the other side, and say, well, you know what? I embrace Judaism, I love all you guys, I love fellow Jews, and Israel's not committing a genocide.

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Richie Greenberg: Will that actually help him more now, because he's gonna see that, I don't know.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I know.

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Richie Greenberg: I don't think he's not gonna do that, but…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I doubt it, I doubt it, but I think it… I think he is being condemned.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: For some very appropriate reasons, where it's, you made this, you fostered this.

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Richie Greenberg: That's right.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: the Frankenstein.

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Richie Greenberg: Fine.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Right, exactly. You let it happen, and now it's coming back to bite you, and of course, nobody wants that kind of attack, which it was. It was disgusting.

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Richie Greenberg: It was two, it was two.

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Richie Greenberg: Yes! Was it two different days?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: They were two different days.

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Richie Greenberg: One in a cafe, a very loud cafe, where these people came and accosted him, and recorded him just sitting there like a whimpering

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Richie Greenberg: fucking little puppy. And then… and he said nothing. He just sat there, cowering, sour… you know, like they were physically beating him. Well, with the words, right? To him, he was being berated with words.

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Richie Greenberg: And that image got all over the news. It's not just here in San Francisco, but all over national news.

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Richie Greenberg: this wuss… They're not saying anything.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: If you don't stand up If you don't stand up for yourself.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: You know, if you don't stand up for yourself, and for what you believe in, what…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: How can the public expect you, that person, to stand up for you?

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Richie Greenberg: Because, Erica, he's not used to this. He is not used to being confronted by his policies, by his convictions, by his statements. He's not used to being confronted face-to-face. He loves being behind the keyboard.

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Richie Greenberg: And just going wild on…

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Richie Greenberg: on condemning people, and calling everybody left and right fascists, and the MAGA Republicans, and trashing everybody trashing Trump, trashing J.D. Vance, trashing Stephen Miller, like, that's the chief of policy.

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Richie Greenberg: Right? He's out there, big guy, he's like this, you know, big, big.

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Richie Greenberg: big, important me, you know, look at me, Scott Weiner, running for Congress. I can say any fucking thing I want about anyone, I can trash anybody that I want, and I'm doing it online, and no one's stopping me, and I'm having a great response to this, because the conservatives and even a lot of the moderate Democrats and the MAGA Republicans are all fascists and white supremacists.

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Richie Greenberg: Christian nationalists, and he has just been railing on everybody, right? And no one is pushing back.

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Richie Greenberg: Because it's behind the keyboard.

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Richie Greenberg: Right? Now.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: He's in person, in person, and he has this… now, I'm speculating this, of course. He has this air of extreme superiority that everyone universally loves him and his message and his persona.

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Richie Greenberg: And he walks around, and, you know, I put a little list up here. Why the fuck was he running, walking around alone?

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Richie Greenberg: What kind of moron does that?

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Richie Greenberg: A sitting California state senator.

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Richie Greenberg: A legislator, and now a candidate running for Congress. He is alone. He always goes around with no staff, with no entourage, no protection, no police, no nobody, no nothing.

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Richie Greenberg: And he thinks he could do that.

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Richie Greenberg: And it not… it's not be a problem. Why is he alone?

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Richie Greenberg: Alright, number one. Number two, Did he, or will he, soon, file a police report or an FBI report

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Richie Greenberg: detailing this.

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Richie Greenberg: And, also, he was recorded without permission. I know that's a little bit dubious there, but California has a two-party consent

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Richie Greenberg: state for recording, recording audio and visual. Some will say, well, you know, he was out in the public, yeah, but when you have people come over and they start talking, talking things to harass, and they stalked him, right, that potentially is an issue.

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Richie Greenberg: And then, Erica, there's a significant number of people out there

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Richie Greenberg: Who think that this whole thing was actually Staged. Have you heard that?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No, I haven't heard that. I have heard something…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: equally as ridiculous, that, that the people who were harassing him were doing so because he's a YIMBY.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's the reason!

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Richie Greenberg: No.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: A Yimby, yes, they might…

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Richie Greenberg: He's pro-housing, right?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So how did.

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Richie Greenberg: We're all really, really ramping up and firing on all cylinders. Let's really build housing. We need to build affordable housing in all parts of the city. That's him. And people don't like that?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So, no, let's shift this a little bit, Richie.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: We can talk about Senator Scott Weiner all day.

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Richie Greenberg: Yep.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: what we like, what we don't like, what we find completely perplexing and horrifying, whatever. But let's talk about the people, the attackers, because they are quite the bunch.

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Richie Greenberg: But they're known, they're known, right?

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Richie Greenberg: I don't want to interrupt much, but this… I believe this same group, or at least a couple of the front people.

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Richie Greenberg: That went after Wiener, also did the same a year ago, almost a year ago to the day

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Richie Greenberg: with Mayor Daniel Lurie in almost the same spot.

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Richie Greenberg: Right? He came out, Lurie was there, but he had a couple… a little bit of protection. He's the mayor, right? And he walks through this similar area, and people come over and start confronting Lurie.

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Richie Greenberg: They yell at him, tell him they don't want him there, he doesn't belong, and he also, like a little wimpy little putz, runs away as well. So, this is not the first time that these individuals have done that, and…

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Richie Greenberg: We see online, social media, on Twitter, X, they're… people are naming these individuals who are doing this, so these individuals are known.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: They are known. I have interacted with them. One of them, the main guy, is named Dimitri. What is his last name? .

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Richie Greenberg: I, I don't recall.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's all I haven't know here!

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Richie Greenberg: It's okay, our listeners.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Oh, yeah. Plenty of time.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Y-A-K-O-U-S-H-K-I-N Yakushik.

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Richie Greenberg: Kush needs something.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay, so this guy…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And it's really interesting, because just a few days before the incident with Scott Weiner, this guy came out, on Friday. It was on the Friday, this… the incident with Weiner was, I believe, on Saturday or Sunday, whatever.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: So… JJ Smith.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Who is a local, community of, say, activists. He's, he's very protective over the Tenderloin and, and the city of San Francisco.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, citizen journalist, he's out there with his cameras capturing all the drug addicts and drug dealers on a daily basis out on the streets in the morning, overnight, yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: Greco.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I definitely consider him a friend. He is a tough, tough character.

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Richie Greenberg: JJ is awesome, yep.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Heart of gold, he… but he speaks the truth, and he stands up. And so when he saw Dimitri on the street, who was trying to… trying to, instigate an issue on the street with SFPD, well, guess who stood up?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It was JJ, and he did not let Dimitri get

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: A sliver of daylight in between him and the truth. JJ went full force into the fray and said, I know you, I know what you do, you will not get away with this, come at me, because I'm coming at you.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's the way to do it. He was left, Dimitri was left.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: speechless. He couldn't have… there was no reaction he could have given. He knew he was in the wrong, and there's nothing, nothing that he could do with somebody who stands up, loud and proud, and says.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: What you're doing, you know, you need to stop.

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Richie Greenberg: Excuse me.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I know who you are, right?

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Richie Greenberg: That's right. I mean, and that's… you gotta put them in their place. You know, you have to give it back and say, you're not intimidating me.

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Richie Greenberg: Stop the harassment. I know you by name, I know you by face, we know who you are. Stop it.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Exactly. You stand up, you stand proud, you stand tall, and if you need to, you move forward.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, and, you know, Scott Weiner did none of those things.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Oh!

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Richie Greenberg: Didn't… didn't stand up, didn't…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: incredibly frustrating.

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Richie Greenberg: back, did nothing but sit and cower like a little, little, little pathetic puppy, you know?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I know.

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Richie Greenberg: saying that, but… but…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It just…

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Richie Greenberg: You know, and people that I know just saw the video within the last hour or so of you and I sitting down right now. Some people just talked to me, said, I just saw that video now that you're all talking about, that you were telling us about. I can't believe it, but this is another problem, Erica.

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Richie Greenberg: Is that…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Beautiful.

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Richie Greenberg: The problem is… Scott Weiner is now… spinning this.

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Richie Greenberg: To show how he was attacked.

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Richie Greenberg: Based on what he stands up for.

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Richie Greenberg: Rather than why he's so controversial.

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Richie Greenberg: And he's going to spin this, and he is, and the media, the media, through today.

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Richie Greenberg: Almost universally, except for a couple of outlets.

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Richie Greenberg: never explained how he is a controversial person going all the way back, you know, 10 years since in office. And this is an issue as well. So this incident most likely is going to help him at the polls.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I think so.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, and that's unfortunate, because I don't think he deserves this. I do not think, because of how controversial he is, and how detrimental he has been in dealing with the issues that are so important here in San Francisco and California.

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Richie Greenberg: that there are people up and down this state that are screaming to recall him, screaming to, to oppose him. Well, we can't recall him and oppose him. Only San Franciscans, San Francisco voters, get to vote to either

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Richie Greenberg: put him into Congress, or to, elect his opponent, Connie Chan.

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Richie Greenberg: And this is really, really problematic, because I don't think that he

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Richie Greenberg: deserves to be in Congress. I think he is… he's an absolute moron. I think his… his policies and his priorities are so, so far out of whack.

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Richie Greenberg: You just come up with…

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Richie Greenberg: legislation that has wound up passing because he has all of his comrades in the legislature in Sacramento to pass things that are so narrowly specific on LGBT issues, when you have

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Richie Greenberg: people dying on the streets here in the city on a daily basis, right? You've got crime.

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Richie Greenberg: You have drug addiction, you have drug dealers, and he has all but either ignored that, or he has opposed it.

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Richie Greenberg: Meaning, opposed legislation to help with dealing with that.

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Richie Greenberg: And… So because of that, he is an extremely ineffective legislator.

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Richie Greenberg: And he's a lightning rod, and he's this foul-mouthed little ass that just keeps slamming our effective…

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Richie Greenberg: All four points with his voters.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay, would you want to hear my opinion on him?

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Richie Greenberg: Go for it.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Get ready, because it's, it's really strong.

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Richie Greenberg: Please.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: He's not… he's not to my taste.

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Richie Greenberg: Go, go.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: As my grandmother would say, he's not to my taste.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And I will leave… to me, it's like, he's… his platform.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: is… I don't agree with anything. I really don't. I don't think he's…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: a kind person. I don't… I have a lot of problems with him as a person, as a politician, where his focus has been. I don't think he is in any way genuine. I… I…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Don't know what drives him. Is it power?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Maybe, I mean, I think that's probably the… what typically does drive a person to become a politician and to ascend.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But that's such a weak thing to me. You know, it's like, do you want to help your community? Do you want to make good for the city and represent San Francisco in the best way possible? I don't see it.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I know people, I love… in fact, there are people who I love who support him.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: what can I do? What can you do? You just kind of throw your hands up and say that, well, I…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It's not to my taste, it's to your taste, what do you do with that? Connie Chan, the challenger, to me, no better.

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Richie Greenberg: Different, you know.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: And she's getting, a lot of heat also.

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Richie Greenberg: from, the Wiener-aligned people saying that Connie Chan is not…

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Richie Greenberg: working enough, not focused enough, in local city politics as a sitting member of our city council, the Board of Supervisors.

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Richie Greenberg: She's not doing enough for housing, right? Right. That seems to be the main thing. But, you know, Connie Chan has the endorsement of Nancy Pelosi, and Scott Weiner doesn't.

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Richie Greenberg: And this weekend, which was, you know, June is closing out tomorrow, right? And June, as a lot of people know, is, Pride Month. Gay Pride Month, San Francisco Gay Pride Weekend, with all of the festivities and the,

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Richie Greenberg: And the, the big parade was, yesterday, was it? And so, Connie and Nancy Pelosi campaigning together on, cable car, and going around the city, and waving their, their, their rainbow flags, and, and, so…

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Richie Greenberg: Connie has a very different trajectory, a very different momentum, different supporters.

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Richie Greenberg: And, I don't know what's gonna happen now, in November when we get to.

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Richie Greenberg: election day to see who's going to win, but I think there's going to be more… I predict there's going to be more kinds of incidents like this, with attacks on Scott Weiner, between now and November. What do you think?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I think so, and I do think that if I were his advisor, which would be a very funny role for me to be…

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Richie Greenberg: I'd advise them to drop out.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay.

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Richie Greenberg: I would tell him, you're, you're toxic. You're, you're a toxic wiener, Scott.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Okay, well, I would, I would…

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Richie Greenberg: is toxic.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I would… I would tell him to… he's, what is he, 6'5", something like this?

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Richie Greenberg: No, taller, he's 6'7" They call him the giraffe.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yes.

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Richie Greenberg: Use 6.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: neighborhood.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, yeah. And he actually has that, when he campaigns, it's a giraffe.

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Richie Greenberg: It morphs into him, to a giraffe, back to him.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I know, I've seen it. I guess I would say… If you're gonna… if…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: you want to ingratiate yourself to the public, the voting public, San Francisco voters, right? You're… I think, the better…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: The better approach would be to stop with a hang dog look, to stop looking like a victim.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: You did not deserve… I don't believe for a second, not one tiny fraction of a second, that he deserved that, because I don't believe anybody deserves that. I think you and I may differ on that, but I don't believe it. I think it was disgusting, appalling, repulsive behavior. You're gonna be followed by some Cretans who are screaming the worst

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Possible things to you, about you.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No, never, ever, ever. Okay, I think that those people should be charged with a hate crime, with a crime, just… ugh, disgusting people.

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Richie Greenberg: But he's not going to do that, that's the problem.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: He won't!

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Richie Greenberg: interrupt. He won't. Why? Because politically, it would look really bad that he's going after, you know, prosecution of the people that he's trying to champion. That's the problem.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Boom. Exactly.

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Richie Greenberg: There you go.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Exactly.

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Richie Greenberg: So, so, again, not that it was a stunt, but, you know, there are people out there that think that this was maybe even, not only staged, but, you know, that whole controversy now that it's come out with the, the Southern Poverty Law Center, are you familiar with that? That's where…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Word.

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Richie Greenberg: You know, of course, so they actually were… that center was actually arranging and paying for, their hated people to now

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Richie Greenberg: you know, come up with incidents and events to now combat. So, I could see, potentially, that's what happened here, that there was a tip-off, a payoff, a… an arranging to come out and harass

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Richie Greenberg: Scott Weiner.

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Richie Greenberg: and say, here he's going to be. He knew he was going to be there, they arranged it. There was the attack for…

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Richie Greenberg: for the views, for the media, to try and make him look like the victim.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: It's possible.

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Richie Greenberg: This is what some people out there are saying, and they're sending me this information, you know, I think it was a setup. It was staged, so…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Chrome.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I think… I think the delightful thing about life is that you can… you can…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: speculate all you want, you know, this is what you can do. You can take it in all sorts of crazy directions, and it certainly may… there may be an element of truth to that, we don't know. I don't know.

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Richie Greenberg: And I hope not. I really hope not, because then it would show that Scott Weiner is really into exploiting any situation he can for a vote.

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Richie Greenberg: He exploited, you know, the LGBT community, he exploited the Jewish community, now he's trying to exploit the trans community and the media in order to gain…

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Richie Greenberg: compassion for him, so that way, yeah, let's vote him in, because he deserves it. No, that's not… that's really a terrible thing.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Absolutely, but what is also interesting, and I think this is a great segue, and we can at least touch on it now, and then maybe we can explore this in greater depth later, but San Francisco

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: does not have as strong of a relationship with the DSA as other cities. Now, some of those people who are involved in… in that attack, and around, and their circle, their circle of friends, who I do happen to know, you happen to know, these are… these are just…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Very fringe. Very fringe people. But they chitter-chatter a lot online. They're… they're on X, they're on Blue Sky, they're… they're… I don't see them in person, because I'm not sure they ever leave their mom's basement, but they're…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But these are the people who,

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: are really involved in deep socialism and communism, and, you know, some of them do go to the rallies and to the protests and that type of thing, but

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: compared to other cities, San Francisco has been largely immune from that. It's not Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, New York.

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Richie Greenberg: Berkeley-ish, but it's not nearly to that volume, to that size.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: L.A.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And I think this is such an interesting topic, because they're actually just recently, and I've been bombarding my husband with this very topic for at least several years, like, what's going on? Why are we… we have our own version, but it's not that. What's going on?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But just lately, the topic has come up in the media. The Standard had somebody write something about it, but why is San Francisco? Why do we not have a strong DSA?

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Richie Greenberg: Well, we don't want it, of course.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: No, not a…

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Richie Greenberg: it, and because we've seen Already, the results of having a socialist

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Richie Greenberg: Extremist in, in office.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Oh, and for listeners out there who don't know what the DSA is, the Democratic Socialist.

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Richie Greenberg: list of Americans.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: America, and then the San Francisco branch is the SFGSA, not DSA SF. So, yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, whichever.

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Richie Greenberg: But yeah, we've already seen, like, from Chessa Bodine, having a non-prosecution prosecutor, we've seen Dean Preston. We've seen, Hillary Ronan. I mean, they're kind of like light versions, sort of, but… And then Jackie Fielder of late, who I don't… has she returned to.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: She did, yeah.

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Richie Greenberg: She did, okay, because she was running out of time. She went on a couple of months hiatus because she had some

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Richie Greenberg: some psychological issues and stresses, and she had to take a leave of absence, so now she's back. But, so those individuals, we've seen what hardcore socialist, dogma.

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Richie Greenberg: Kind of a policy.

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Richie Greenberg: And proposals can do. We've lived it, and we've rejected it, and we've thrown them out.

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Richie Greenberg: So we are actually ahead of the curve. We are ahead of…

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Richie Greenberg: the, the socialist influence is in different cities. So we've lived it, and now we're sitting back watching other cities trying to now go through their cycle of

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Richie Greenberg: enamored by this, and then realizing, wow, how detrimental it is, and then throwing them out. That's… that's my…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I…

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Richie Greenberg: my view.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I think you're right. I think it is not as sexy to us, because…

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Richie Greenberg: Yeah, it's gross.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Well, it's a granola.

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Richie Greenberg: I need to take a shower after this.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Is this just me?

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Richie Greenberg: It's like giving me little cooties this.

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Richie Greenberg: Alright, on that note, Eric, I think we should wrap things up, and

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Richie Greenberg: I hope, and I'm saying this, Erica and I, I hope that we haven't…

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Richie Greenberg: overly offended any listeners in today's podcast, because we really hit hard on everything. But, you know, I don't want to say I don't care, that's not really it, but, you know, this is the reality of what we're living here in San Francisco, with the politics, and the exploitation, and the gross

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Richie Greenberg: Ugh. What do you think, Erica?

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I totally agree, and I think… you know, the intention of this podcast is not, obviously, to offend. Hopefully, it's to

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Have some entertainment.

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Richie Greenberg: Educate, educate.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Entertainment. As we talk about the things that are really going on in our city, that are important.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But… Ultimately, ultimately, I guess my message is know who you are.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Really analyze the facts, understand what's going on, and then

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: have courage. Have courage to stand up and say, look, this is what I believe. This is what you do. You do this all the time, Richie, right? You stand up for what you believe in.

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Richie Greenberg: Of course.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I do my best to do the same.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Try not to be scared. There's nothing to be frightened of when you are holding yourself strong and saying, well, this is who I am and what I believe. And if you want to attack me for it, that's on you.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Right? Me? I'm just, you know…

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Richie Greenberg: And one, like, if you're gonna attack me.

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Richie Greenberg: For something that I believe, expect retaliation.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Yeah, that's unbel.

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Richie Greenberg: I'm gonna come right back at you, and I'm gonna hit you, you know, verbally, or whatever, with an equal or more powerful set of words back at you.

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Richie Greenberg: Just because we have the First Amendment that gives you, someone, the right to say something against me, even if it's offensive, does not mean that you're not going to hear immediately right back and have me strike right back at you.

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Richie Greenberg: You know, and that's…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: I, I, I agree. I mean…

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: How about this, and we can end? Yeah. And at the same time.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: That's right. Keep yourself safe in terms of, like, enjoy, have fun, don't put yourself in situations that are kind of a guarantee you're going to be in a

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: problematic.

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Richie Greenberg: That's right.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: But, you know, take control of your life and of your city, because this is what we do. So, Richie, I'm so glad that you're back. Let's get this going a little bit.

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Richie Greenberg: I am too. I'm loving the, you know, 58 degrees at night and 65 during the day. I'm actually wearing a sweatshirt. It's great to be back. Great to be back in the city by the bay. Great to be back with you, Erica. And, I missed you, I missed everybody, and I'm happy that we're…

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Richie Greenberg: Recording again, and we'll be, back, on the air more regularly, coming up very soon.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: And thank you to all the listeners. This is really San Francisco signing off for today.

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Erica Jennifer Sandberg: Jesus?

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Richie Greenberg: Soon. Take care.