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Chris Sinclair owns a bottle shop, a bar and has been a world famous Bartender. Drew Garrison is a liquor broker and is known internationally as one of the afore most knowledgable people in the world of Agave and Rum
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S.6 Ep.9 (Part 2) Kristie Tacey: Wine's Hidden Narratives and CBD Encounters
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Embark on a journey through the transformative world of Riesling with our charismatic guest, Kristie Tacey of Tessier Wines, as we shatter American misconceptions of this multifaceted varietal. From my own dining epiphanies to Kristie's plans for skin-contact white wines, we celebrate the release—and quick disappearance—of the Tessier 2022 Soul Love, leaving us yearning for just one more sip. Revel in the stories of Alsatian delights and get a peek behind the curtain of the natural wine movement, paired with a hearty dose of transparency talk and its impact on the wine industry.
Ever wondered how a graphic health warning might change your next bottle of wine? We take a deep look at government's hand in alcohol consumption awareness, comparing the potential effects on the industry to the seismic shifts caused by similar warnings in the tobacco world. Kristie helps us navigate the cultural ripples from Ireland to South America, and we ponder whether the pursuit of transparency will shake up our buying habits as profoundly as the latest scientific findings disrupt public perception.
And for those with a taste for the novel, we explore the tantalizing realm of CBD-infused wines, considering whether they're complicating or enhancing our imbibing experience. To top off the episode, I share the comedies and melodies currently fueling my life—think Lonely Island and Waxahatchee, with a dash of Chastity Belt for good measure. As we raise a glass to networking with just the right touch of CBD confidence, join us for laughs, insights, and the delightful complexities that come with the ever-evolving world of alcohol and pleasure.
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Alcohol Industry and Health Warnings
Speaker 1Welcome to the Good Bottle Podcast . Join Chris and Drew , two self-proclaimed booze pundits with a lifetime of industry experience , as they walk you through the alcohol business and how today's headlines affect the industry . Each week , the guys will be joined by a special guest that will help them break down these stories and offer their own expertise to the podcast . So pour yourself a glass of your favorite drink and sit back . This is the Good Bottle Podcast .
Speaker 2Welcome back to the Good Bottle Podcast . I am your host , chris Sinclair . I missed you so much . I hope you missed me too . I'm joined by my co-host , mr Drew Garrison . Hey , how are you ? I can't hear you , your sound's turned off . I can't hear you , your sound's turned off .
Speaker 3Isn't this lovely it's been so long since we've done this that you know I was switching things over on my screen and I'm like , oh yeah , you gotta unmute so the people can hear you you were at exactly the right volume for me , so I appreciate that .
Speaker 3Yeah , well good for you , good for you . Well , we are , we're okay . So we're back . It's part two , and , uh , we have . We have chrissy tacy with us , who is the owner , she is the producer , she is the dj over at tessier wines , and what we need to talk about is christy . What are you sipping on right now ? What are you enjoying at this moment ?
Speaker 4I'm drinking a riesling from alsace . A rifle , their grand crew zotzenberg . I visited them the last time I was in France and like I love Riesling .
Speaker 3So in part one you had , you know you had mentioned Rieslings and things like that and I know for myself I have become a total Riesling whore in the last couple of years .
Speaker 3Like it is it's so , it's so good and like I went out , I was out at dinner last night and I was like I was like , okay , tonight I'm doing cocktails , right , like , and I and I try to stay in in one lane when I'm drinking now , because if I invite too many people to the party it's just like I'm ruined for three days . And I had like my first cocktail and it was great and then , like the psalm walked by and very , it was very clear that they had a bottle of reason their hands like I might have to call an audible , because that just seems so wonderful right now . One of the things that you had mentioned in part one was just like the gross misunderstanding that most americans have of riesling and I mean , what do you think that stems from ? Like , why , why do ? Why do we just not get it ?
Speaker 4as American drinkers . They think it's going to be sweet and um . And then I'm always like , just try it . And then they're like , oh , it's so good . You know , they're just surprised . And it reasoning is so versatile . It goes with all different kinds of food . I mean from fried food to spicy food , to cheese plates . I mean it's like an easy go-to for me .
Speaker 3And you had mentioned Alsace , which I think Alsatian wine is one of my absolute favorite things in the entire world , or it has become Outside of this one . Are there any other favorites that you have from that region ?
Speaker 4Yeah , I mean I have a bunch , um uh , brand wines . We visited them as well . Um , you've as Amber , they were fantastic . I mean we got to go out to their vineyard plot and they're all doing organic farming and natural winemaking . What else did we do ?
Speaker 4I mean there , there were so many , I was so impressed . Lots of cool skin contact white grapes that you know left on the skins for a long time . Like I'm so into skin contact white grapes , so I was . I'm going to do that this year too . I want to get some Gewurztraminer to mess with . I always mess with the skin contact on the riesling too .
Speaker 2um , you know all the flavors skins one of my favorite orange wines and , as I , it might be the first orange wine I had . I honestly I'm not exactly certain , but um union sakura makes makes makes or made 40 , 40 and 80 day skin contact diverts , which is it's a mind fuck of a wine , just incredible , I mean , it's simply delectable it is . You can pound the entire bottle and not have a problem , but also you can sit there and and , and . Every single sip is like an intellectual and imaginary experience .
Speaker 1It's just , it's wild yeah , I agree , I've always looked at .
Speaker 3I've always looked at orange wines as like the perfect transitional wine , so like , especially the time that we're right now , where it's like you know we're spring , summer's around the corner , but sometimes it still gets a little cold , where you're kind of like I want a wine with depth , but I also want it to be a little refreshing too . Yeah , and that's like like orange wine like really scratches that itch for me for sure , and I mean in most of the you know my experience outside of like I've had that sakura , which is really really well , well done too .
Speaker 3It's like all the georgian wine , you know , like a bunch of georgian wine has all skin contact has all the orange wine , has all the ambers , as they'll call it , which is really fun . Chris , I know that you were sipping on some wine as well .
Speaker 2Did you want to shamelessly plug it ? It lasted really well over the week , just kidding . Nice , the Tessier 2022 . 2022 , soul love . It is Riesling Martel Negrette and Merlot from the central coast made by our lovely friend here and it is a fucking banger you know that one's sold out now yeah , well , you have to come see me .
Speaker 1I have some for all you people , for all you people For all you people out there , and it was hot I mean I also might be squirreling some away for personal consumption as well .
Speaker 2Smart , Smart .
Speaker 3Well , chrissy , when you go to the shop this week , you'll have to sign some bottles and hide them in there so people can get the autographed edition . I feel like I've made multiple people do that every single day . If I'm ever in there with a producer , I'm like you should sign these bottles and hide them . I don't even know if Chris knows how many autographed bottles he has throughout that shop . Probably not . Yeah , all right .
Speaker 3Well , in part one we discussed Chrissy's amazing past and come up through through the industry and all the different things that she's into , which was really fun . Definitely check that out . Listen to the music quiz . You'd be amazed what this woman remembers about her pairings with music . It's like crazy .
Speaker 3So , but now I think it's time for our opinions on facts that we've heard from reputable sources . Okay , so the first story that we're going to cover is actually about warning labels that are coming into alcohol . So in 2026 , in the Republic of Ireland , they are going to start featuring bright red text on each one of their bottles that says there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal cancers . The article goes on to talk about how this is going to change the landscape and then even has some quotes from representative from Discus , which is the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States , and you know , kind of going back for , like , is this going to make a difference ? You know all these different , these links , that between alcohol and getting cancer . Different , these links , that between alcohol and getting cancer . We talked about the world world health organization this year and how they came out and said there's no safe level of alcohol consumption . Discus has , of course , come back and been like you know , there needs to be more clarity when it comes to this packaging and things like that . Uh , I know for myself , more transparency is better , is better . But I mean , we've seen it with cigarettes for years . Like it literally tells you it's going to give you cancer and people still do it .
Speaker 3So , chrissy , you do make a natural wine or a low intervention wine or you know again , it's . It's a little bit flexible there at times , but when you see a headline like that , you're just kind of like , what are we doing , guys ? It's alcohol , take it easy . But when you see a headline like that , you're just kind of like , what are we doing , guys ? It's alcohol , take it easy . Or do you think ? You know ? Like we did talk about packaging quite a bit in part
Impact of Labeling on Alcohol Industry
Speaker 3one . Do you think this is going to have an effect on the industry ?
Speaker 4I mean , I think a balanced lifestyle is smart and you know , you do have to think about , like some sometimes I hear in the natural wine world , like it's natural wine , you won't get hung over , and that's a lie . I mean it's still alcohol . But natural wine is organic grapes and there can be so many ads to the wine . Like , if you buy a grocery store wine , chances are there's color added , there's like oak powders to you know , kind of Frankenstein , the flavor profile , natural wine . You're better off because it's organic grapes and less meddling around . But you know , I always , I always try to take days off of drinking and , um , try not to drink that many glasses of wine . I mean it's , it's a good thing to think about . I don't think the labeling will stop anybody . I , I feel like that's kind of intense , but I , I , yeah , yeah , I don't know .
Speaker 3Well , so again , this is this is only happening , uh , in Ireland , but of course , there are other countries that have done similar things . So there's a lot of countries throughout South America that have warnings like this on not just alcohol but food in general , and some of the officials from these countries you know our site is like well , some of the officials from these countries , you know our site is like well , you know , we've actually seen a downturn in like sugary treats and things like that , because we started to put all these different warnings on on this stuff . You know , transparency is king for me moving forward , and I think a lot more people are getting into that . So , Chris , from your perspective , when you see something like this , do you ? I mean , it's got to be a little bit concerning as a retailer , where you're kind of like , please don't put this , will kill you on all my bottles . But I mean , what are your impressions of this article and , potentially , where these trends are going ?
Speaker 2Oh , buddy , I got a lot . I think a great sort of analogy is I was sitting at this wine dinner no more than two nights ago and a gentleman stood up . It was a beautiful wine dinner in a wine cellar . All the lights were turned off , it was only candlelit . We were sitting amongst barrels , some of the most delicious food being served . It was fucking incredible .
Speaker 2And , uh , one of our uh table friends , uh someone I I just met , uh from la , who works in the wine industry down there , uh , stood up , went outside , had a cigarette , came back in , put his pack on the on the table and , um , the whole at least our side of the table took notice of it , because it was not like any pack of cigarettes we'd seen . It was from korea , so it was in another language and an entirely different brand , but it was . I mean , it was very big , with symbols saying like this will kill you all over it , to the point where , like , you could almost not see the branding and the labels were the branding and the general consensus of the entire table while we're sitting there drinking copious amounts of wine was well , that just kind of makes it more punk rock , doesn't it ? Like everybody , everybody's just more into it . You know , I , I was a hardcore smoker for many , many years . I don't smoke cigarettes anymore , I smoke cigars , and , and it's not , you know , I'm not smoking like two packs a day Like I used to , uh , which I best thing I ever did was quit , but I still know what it is , you know , and I don't know .
Speaker 2I don't think anybody is confused by it . I do think , though , that having those labels on things is not so bad of an idea . You know , I , I , I think there are some less intelligent people out there who need a gentle reminder that these things can be harmful , and reminding them of those sorts of things is OK , and if that reduces a little bit of the market share , then I think that's fine . I kind of fall into your transparency camp as well . That's my thoughts on that part uh , what about the government dictating ?
Speaker 3dictating it , because that's like one of the things that it would , you know , for the us to get on this level .
Speaker 3You know , of course , there's gonna be lots of legislation that has to go into that and you know , I mean , they're probably not going to get it done unless it somehow affects tiktok . But , with that being said , is , I mean , is that something that you would want , you know , your elected officials to be tackling , and kind of be like , hey , we're finding some links between this and cancer ? Can you please put this on on this packaging , christy , I'll throw this to you because you know we did talk about packaging with your wine earlier . I mean , you know , is that something that you really like ? You know , I don't , you don't want to see that on there , even though though there are some links or , you know , if it was , if it came down to it and you had to take which we all agree was like beautiful packaging , and then throw these warnings on it , I mean , what's that going to be like from from your perspective as a , as a creator and as someone who loves their labeling right now ?
Speaker 4Yeah , I mean we already have like the government warning on there . I mean we already have like the government warning on there . I mean we'll see what the regulations are and you have to get that past TTB . But we just put on ingredients on our newest labels and you know , I guess that's coming , or they're saying it's going to be coming for California wines , but we put sustainably farmed , you know , grenache grapes and then sulfur dioxide . So we're trying to be really transparent and be ahead of the game , cause I think you know , like I said , with the grocery store wines , it definitely helps us and helps people trying to make a decision like what kind of wine do I want to drink ?
Speaker 2are you concerned about putting so2 on your , on your labels ?
Speaker 4that no , we , I mean we , we talked about that , but I it's naturally occurring . I mean I feel like like I will talk with all the stores about it too . You know , like we're putting this on here and we do use SO2 . We use a low amount and on all of our text sheets we disclose like how much we use . And you can use up to 250 parts per million and we rule of thumb is like always under 50 , but most of our like whites and roses are like 25 parts per million , and then I just think it gets like overwhelming for people . But it's it's , it's making you know , it's being able to make natural wine . But kind of letting people know that we do use SO2 and I'm not against it and there's SO2 in so many things and , like I said , it's naturally occurring a little bit is good in my opinion .
Speaker 3And for our listeners . What is that doing to the wine ? Because I do think that there's like , when it comes to the packaging packaging , like sometimes what becomes scary is like big words and things that we don't hear all the time , or actually in more so with wine , it's one of the few things that people can actually pronounce when it comes to outside elements well , it's also the thing that people blame on saying like oh , sulfites , sulfites , those give me headaches .
Speaker 3Well , that's what I'm saying because they can actually pronounce it , because if you look at a lot of the other elements that are in there , kind of like well , I don't know what the fuck that says , but I can pretty much sound this one out . But so what do those sulfites do like in your winemaking process ?
Speaker 4Well , I mean , like I said , it is naturally occurring in the fermentation process , like converting sugar to alcohol , so there's always a little bit in there , and then I add a little bit to kind of knock back the , the bad microbiology , like the ones that taste gross like mouse and like a lot of the lactobacillus bacteria and yeast that that you know don't smell or taste good .
Speaker 3Boom , there you go . And she's a scientist . You guys , you have to do it . Now , you had mentioned that . You know you guys are getting ahead of the ahead of the game , and so there's there's transparency in wine labels coming to California , but there's also been like from from the TTB , efforts to put ingredients in on everything like . So , moving forward , every spirit will have to do it , which you know . There's a lot of tequila companies out there that are freaking out right now , but can I also mention how ironic that is there's a lot of additives , though , too , with tequilas right there is yeah .
Speaker 4And like , yeah , people want to drink .
Speaker 3But one of the things that you've brought up a couple times , christy , is grocery store wine , and I think we can all agree , like within this circle . It's just kind of like , yeah , you shouldn't be buying from grocery stores , like , go to bottle shops , do those things that have a little bit more of an intimate touch . But when you're mentioning those grocery stores and you're mentioning , like you know where , you think this is going to help you in that situation because you're going to have so many few , like you have very little things on there . But what are some of the additives that are going into these grocery store wines ? And I'm not saying call it any specific brand , but like what are some of these elements that people should be more concerned about , as opposed to the sulfites and things like that ?
Speaker 4Oh , let's like you know coloring and powders and you know like a chemistry experiment in there . Yeah , I think the list would be long . There are many things that you can add that you don't even have to disclose .
Speaker 3Well , I think the number is like 133 different types of additives can be added to your wine in California and still call it wine at that point .
Speaker 4I know it's crazy .
Speaker 3I mean , what even makes it wine ? Is this the fact that it comes in a wine bottle that you're just kind of like , yeah , there might have been a grape at grape at one point .
Speaker 1There's some grapes in there .
Speaker 3So so , Chris , for you , I mean , I think you've always kind of gravitated towards wines like that and things and transparency and and not a whole lot
Transparency and Impact of Alcohol Ingredients
Speaker 3of nonsense . But you know , with that level of transparency , do you think people you know as they're , as they're doing their weekly shopping and stuff like that will start to grab those bottles and see how many things on it , like you know what , I do need to go to a bottle shop or like what . Do you think the some of the effects of that could potentially be moving forward ?
Speaker 2I think you're going to have a little bit of both , both sides of the same coin you're gonna have people who say you know , well , everything gives you cancer , so fuck it , right , and they'll just grab everything , just like they do anything else from the grocery store , right , and they they just get bogged down by the list of ingredients . And then you'll have the people on the other side of the same coin which are like okay , I'm reading this and I don't know what this is , and so maybe I can find somebody who actually knows , you know , and I , I think I think you'll have a fair amount of both and and I . I'd like to be clear that I don't think there's anything wrong with consuming wines with shit in it , that that you can't pronounce like enjoy it . You know , if that's , if that's your thing . Like everybody needs their pop music , right . Like everybody needs , you know , their shitty action movie , right . Like everybody needs to like turn off at some point in time , and I won't , I won't take that from anybody , but knowing what that is like .
Speaker 2We all know pop music is formulaic and that's you know , it doesn't take away from pop music , knowing that it's formulaic and that you can like create it on a computer today . You know , make a big hit , uh . Or you know a big action movie , like everybody gets it , like the plot holes are fine . You know , you have to alleviate some sort of uh , intellectual reality that like keeps you grounded and you're just . You just have to give into the storyline and that's fine . And wine can be that way , beer can that be that way , tequila can be that way , and that's fucking fine , right . But if you give a shit , once you know it's kind of hard to unknow . And once you know , then then it just drives you down this rabbit hole and you , you might go begrudgingly , but you're going down anyway I just think , though .
Speaker 3I mean I I get what you're saying and I do want to like for people who do go down that rabbit hole . I think what you end up finding out is that quality stuff is not unapproachable price point wise , and you just feel so much better after the fact .
Speaker 3You know , and it's like emotionally even sometimes physically yeah , sometimes usually like I just you know , I I very vividly remember having an experience over like a three-day weekend where it was like one night we only fucked with natural wines and like well-made stuff and it wasn't and it all would have not fallen underneath like the natural wine category , but it was like you know stuff that we knew that old world methods and things like that and then had like nothing but a bunch of you know doctored up california wines and that hangover from that cal , that California doctored wines night was , I mean , still lives rent free in my head is like one of the worst ones .
Speaker 2Your dentist hates super purple .
Speaker 3Oh yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , oh my gosh .
Speaker 2Well , I like to point also point out , like a little bit of hypocrisy here , from the TTB and from from now now , enforcing ingredients , like I know so many brands that got into so much trouble and had to spend so much money to change their labels to remove ingredients over the last like 15 years .
Speaker 2It's just outrageous , right . So like them going like , hey , we're going to list all the things that are in here so it could be transparent . The TTB turning around and saying no , no , no , that that will only encourage people to make their own fill in the blank , whatever yeah .
Speaker 2As if you fucking could Right Like , because also that's illegal to do at home , but that's neither here nor there . To now they're turning around and going no , you have to put everything on there . I feel a little whiplash on this one and it seems a little ridiculous , but it's the fucking TTB . So what are you going to do ?
Speaker 4Yeah , I mean , I don't know if it'll go through , but we just wanted to do that because that's our whole thing is transparency and minimal intervention . And you know we a minimal intervention and you know we usually sell to curated shops , that you know you're selecting these brands , that you know the story is behind and you know that that's kind of our scene .
Speaker 3Well , it's gonna be a clientele that cares right , like you're . You know , unfortunately , a lot of grocery store wines . I would say they're playing towards the middle and even less than the middle of it's kind of like oh , yeah , we're , we're headed to a friend's house and we got to grab a bottle of wine , like we don't want to do . I don't get a ten dollar thing , but maybe 15 is the play right . So , uh , all right , chris , what's your final thought ?
Speaker 2all right . So this is all coming coming on the heels of the story that we we sort of talked about two weeks ago , which is the , the world health organization , with their , with their doctrine of no safe amount of alcohol word , the , the trickle-down effect of bad science , sort of percolating through to everyday , everyday life , right and and and the lack of questions that are put onto that , even though everybody knows that the , the original science , was bad , it's fraudulent , it does not stand up to peer review and it's it brings into this , into my mind , this concept in the legal world . It's a legal doctrine of the fruit of the poison tree , which is all the evidence that have been derived from an illegal search are thereby deemed ineligible for court and to be heard because everything else was achieved illegitimately . Creating , creating health doctrine based on fraudulent doctrine . Indeed , was their intent from the get-go with publishing this information . But you can see now how this is going to start to affect everyday lives and it's not just okay .
Speaker 2Well , the World Health Organization says , like there's no safe amount , so whatever , okay , fine , fuck it . Everything gives you cancer . We're just going to drink anything anyway . But it just chips away at people's appreciation of legitimate science and it's really unfortunate , and you know , legitimate like health concerns , legitimate science and it's really unfortunate , and you know , legitimate like health concerns . We should have a good , clear transparency and understanding of our actual health effects , you know . So that way we're not just shooting blind and , you know , screaming hail mary as we consume a bottle of wine . Right , we should at least be able to , like , take an understanding of , of an appropriate amount of risk that we're consuming . When we consume tequila or wine or anything , shit like this just kind of like it kind of gets my blood going because it's not , it's not based in fact . And now all of a sudden , you're , you're creating legalities for everybody in the U S who consumes booze and produces booze .
Speaker 3Yeah , all right , let's move on to the next story .
CBD Infused Wine Trends
Speaker 3So , speaking of putting additives into all these different wines and stuff like that , cbd the next big thing for white , the next big thing for wine , the next big thing for wine . So across the world , not just the nation more and more legislation is going through where CBD is being legalized in places that it wasn't before , and with that comes infused products . I know that we've talked about them on the show before , everything from you know growing up with pot brownies to now having legalized little gummies that you can get in every freaking flavor imaginable to . You know , again , you go to any pot shop in california and you can get all these different sacks and stuff like that . But cbd wine , christy , when you hear this and you do happen to run your own winery , are you super excited about infusing cannabis into your wine products ? Are you just kind of like ew ?
Speaker 4not interested . Um , I don't think cb , cbd does that much , only in the presence of THC In my usage at least .
Speaker 3Yeah , throughout this article they basically talk about like it's definitely more of like the hemp-based CBD and it's just gaining more popularity and so much of it which I thought was hilarious . Hilarious was based off the fact that you can get this stuff from the comfort of your own home and it's driving a lot of the business . It's because people just don't want to go out and be like , oh , cbd wine , that sounds great and I can order it on my you know , instacart dope , like that's . That's just kind of it . But yeah , I mean , I've I've had some infused things in the past .
Speaker 4It's kind of it's kind of silly is it like de-elking the wine and then putting cbd or ?
Speaker 3well , it doesn't get into that in this , in in terms of the process . It just talks about different countries , kind of get into it and . And then it's like and , of course , the global CBD wine sector was valued at 11.1 million in 2021 . And it's projected to reach 112 billion by 2031 . So , you know , maybe you need to put some CBD in your wine .
Speaker 1I don't know Like it seems like there's , there's some potential here .
Speaker 3She's just , she doesn't . She doesn't look amused . You guys , this is , you know . This is the part where the visuals you know , I wish they were more prominent on our podcast . I mean do you ? I mean I guess I don't . I I mean do you ? I mean I guess I don't , I guess I don't know what , what you really kind of do with this ?
Speaker 2I mean , like Chris , do you think that there's a place in your shop for a wine like this ? I mean , just like Christy said , my initial thought is is is this de-alked right Like ? Is it alcohol removed wines ? If it is , I think that there's a , I think there's a place for it . Wines if it is , I think there's a , I think there's a place for it .
Speaker 2I find that there's this really interesting growing subset of people that are at least coming into my shop that are I'm becoming more aware of and I don't know if the the the group was there um prior to to good bottle and me carrying certain products .
Speaker 2I like I don't know what the marketplace looked like , but there is a group of people who don't want booze , but they want to drink their consumables in a way , and they're not looking for THC , they're just looking for adaptogens and what have you , and I do have a , a handful of products that uh achieve that and that's have a handful of products that achieve that and that's great . I think it's cool and I think that there's that subsection of non-alcoholic but with additives is going to be a growing trend market in the next few years . I have no idea if it's going to bottom out . I have no idea if it's going to skyrocket like no clue , but I I find it fascinating , and I don't think that the story is over by any means . Throwing additives into wine , though , in just to do a thing , seems odd to me . But what do I know ?
Speaker 3I'm in my 40s and I'm out of touch and I don't know how to use a computer anymore drew silent everybody so what it sounds like to me is that you guys are like , hey , there is a place for this if it is a non-alcohol wine that has to be infused with cbd . So maybe there's like know those health benefits that people always talk about ? With CBD Plus , it's a way to somewhat alter your state without actually drinking alcohol . So it's a way to kind of blend in , which is what a lot of these non-alcoholic spirits and wines and beers are trying to do .
Speaker 2My understanding is that CBD is just an anti-inflammatory right Like that's . I mean , that's essentially what it is Maybe you feel less bloated in the morning if you add CBD to your wine . I'm like fuck , I don't know yeah .
Speaker 3Maybe that is it so , but you guys see more of a lane for it that way , as opposed to just kind of being like weed wines or anything like that . I mean like if there was more of a THC element , do you think there's a market for that with the alcohol or do you think it would still have to be , you know this , like grape , like wine , like spirit or drink , but not actually have alcohol but does have cbd and thc which can alter you a little bit more we'll just then have a glass of wine and smoke a joint it was added .
Speaker 3It was like you guys are just adding steps and making it .
Speaker 1Maybe people like , I want it all together but then you can , Mike , moderate .
Speaker 2you know your consumption of like alcohol and a THC , I mean look , green dragons a thing right , which is which is , you know , weed-infused booze , Right , and that's a thing . I mean , it's been a thing for a long time . Entirely illegal and it gives you a crossfade that I think no one should fuck with . That is . I've lost days to that experiment and I don't suggest it to anybody .
Speaker 3Moderation is key . Okay . Well , it sounds like where we're at with this is we can do the CBD thing , just don't put any alcohol in it . Cater to a different crowd . Well , I think you're going to have trouble serving it .
Speaker 2I mean at least in California , and I I can't think of another single state , maybe Nevada in in the U S that that you'd actually be able to pour this at any at any like you know consumer friendly space . Like you're not going to be able to do it at a bar , you're not going to be able to do at a restaurant , like maybe a private event . You'd be able to serve something along those lines . One of one of our buddies here in town got in trouble a few years ago for putting cbd into some cocktails and and abc like stormed in and like threw out a bunch of stuff and like created a big hoo-ha about it and it's just cbd and some shit and he was like whatever , I was just being funny and the science kind of honestly just backs him up .
Speaker 2I mean , crossfading is is a little weird and from a like a service standpoint , I don't really like enjoy the idea of giving people more x factors being a bartender and like already having to judge people's intoxication level and monitor their good time exactly yeah , and so that just multiplies things . But cbd is fucking cbd . Man , like I don't . What are people gonna do ?
Speaker 3just get sleepy like all right , you're tired , go home a bunch of nerds , right , all right , so so , so those are our thoughts . We're gonna see how this unfolds . There's still a lot more that needs to be uncovered when it comes to this category and you know , it's it's early in the game , but now I think it's time for my favorite segment .
Speaker 1You know who's dope them over there .
Speaker 3That's right . It is our dope follow segment . This is who we are going to tell you who you should be checking out . This could be a movie , this could be a new TV show , books , instagram accounts , spotify playlists Like you might've heard of in part one Anything that we think is dope . We want to share it with you . So , chris , why don't you kick us off this week on who is your dope follow ?
Speaker 2yeah , I've got a , a website and a um and a instagram account of the same origin , same people , uh , on instagram it is wine news noir , all one word .
Speaker 2Uh , it is an online wine magazine that focuses in on the african-american wine wine culture . It's kind of rad . They've got some pretty , pretty fantastic articles and are concentrating on a part of , like , wine culture that um honestly see or hear a lot about . I mean , you know , drew , you and I talk to nadia pretty often on and offline and she seems to be our , our , uh , gateway into that world . Um , and I think there's there's a lot more going on that deserves some attention . And we got we got mj too . Mj's kind of rad .
Speaker 3We like no mj's way rad . It's not even kind of rad , uh . And so it's both the website and the instagram account . That's right . Same wine news noir . Okay , all right , christy , what do you ? Who is your dope follow ?
Music and Comedy Podcast Recommendations
Speaker 4I've got a couple things that I would like to talk about . Chastity Belt I just saw them last week in San Francisco . They have a new album out . Check it , Really good . And then Waxahachie is another band . She just came out with a new album and I've been listening to it nonstop . Super good .
Speaker 3You're going to have to spell that one . That's yeah .
Speaker 4W-A-X-A-H-A-T-C-H-E-E . Waxahachie and she's coming to the . Fox theater in Oakland in May I can't remember I'm working the show Like I usher the shows at the Fox Theater and it's May 18th at the Fox Theater , and then check out Supper Sessions , too , on Instagram . So at Supper Sessions , that's the team that I'm with that that does the radio show . So it's Sundays five to seven . One of us is always doing it and I do it once a month . That's what I got .
Speaker 3I love them . All right , and then I'm going to wrap it up . So I spent a lot of time on the road last week to the point where , like , I had like burned all my podcast and I was about to start a new book but hadn't just yet , and I just kept scrolling on my podcast home screen and came across the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast . So if you were watching SNL during like Andy Samberg's time when they were doing the digital shorts , it's it's the Lonely Island guys talking about their their time at SNL with with Seth Meyers , and it is so fucking funny and just all the different things and it's like them reflecting on things that happened 15 , 20 years ago and then and how they feel about them now and then even learning things about each other .
Speaker 3It's like I had no idea that you were so pissed about that back then . It's just like it's really good . So like if you remember like obviously the one that really kicked it off was like Lazy Sunday and how they shot that and how they and just how that came about If you're a fan of SNL and you were a fan of those digital shorts back then , it's a really , really fantastic and candid conversation and those guys comedy , just it just really resonates with me . So again , the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast . Not that they need any additional promotion , but it's so funny and if you do love those skits it's a good one to check out and I can't wait to as they continue to go through it . But overall , you guys pretty , pretty , pretty dope follows .
Speaker 2The music for the Good Bottle Podcast is orchestrated by Leon and Chase Moore and produced , awkwardly , by us two guys . If you've enjoyed this episode , can you please subscribe and give ?
Speaker 1us a five-star review .
Speaker 2Thank you . Thank you , ainsley , and yeah , you guys should do that . Simple things like that make a big difference for a podcast like ours .
Speaker 3You can also follow us on Instagram or on Facebook at the good bottle podcast or in our personal accounts . Mine is D Garrison six . Chris is Chris Sinflair . Chris , where can they find you on the interwebs ?
Speaker 4Tessie a winery , oh , and why no seven ? W I N E A-X underscore seven .
Speaker 3That's my personal one . I love it . I love it . What's the ? How do they find you on Spotify ? Is it just the easiest to go through your guys' website or like ?
Speaker 4what's the- ? Yeah , we do have like a music page on the website , but yeah , for Spotify it's Christy Tessier , like all one .
Speaker 3No , no spaces no time for spaces , just gotta get to the good .
Speaker 2The good sweet jams yes as always , we would like to thank you for tuning in to listen to our buffoonery .
Liquid Courage and CBD
Speaker 2If anyone that you can think of that there exists for us , I fucked up that part . If there's anyone you think that we should talk to , please reach out and we'll make sure Drew gets his liquid courage up to ask .
Speaker 3I'm going to get my CBD . Courage up , that's what I'm going to do . Get real chills .
Speaker 4Get your inflammation under control .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm going to be like I don't have any pain right now . I'm inviting everybody to be on the pod and I'm going to be like I don't have any pain right now . I'm inviting everybody to be on the pod , and I'm going to do it because I care .
Speaker 2Cheers guys . Christy , I got a question to ask Are you actually DJ Christy Bubbles ?
Speaker 4No , I'm not DJ Christy Bubbles .
Speaker 2I just had to ask . I just had to ask .
Speaker 4It's E-R-I-S-T-Y . I'm DJ Tessian .
Speaker 3Oh , so close . It was a Miley Cyrus Hannah Montana situation . You know what ?
Speaker 4I mean Alter ego .
Speaker 1Yeah .