
The Joycast
The Joycast
Let’s Pray For A Mighty Outpouring of the Spirit | Shane Farmer
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What happens when the people who are called by God’s name come together, repent, and ask God to heal the land? What if our nation is primed for revival? How can we be part of it?
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spk_0: 0:00
I'm Margaret Feinberg, and this is the joy cast. Hi, friends. Welcome to another episode of the joy cast. The half, half happiest half hour of your weak As always, I'm your host, Margaret Fiber. And in celebration of the upcoming holiday season, we've just printed a small batch of our Advent devotional celebrate wonder. Enjoy 25 devotions for Advent and Christmas. You can read it on your own or with your family and kids, and they're even coloring pages as you read now. With each one you buy, you get a free pack of our Jesus is the best gift ever. Christmas cards. We've sold more than half of the printing just in the first week, So if you're looking for an advent devotional, you confined them for a very limited time. At Margaret Feinberg store dot com has I've shared over the last few episodes I have felt led to dive into the topic of the Holy Spirit this wall. To be honest, I didn't know what Guess we'd have our what topics we'd cover. And so I've just been praying and waiting and watching in awe as God has brought the right people at the right time for the right purposes. We started with Christine, aka lt's who lead worship for passion conferences and gatherings around the world. As she shared about the power of vulnerability and worship than Vivian Move, Bonnie challenged us with little known ways. Toe Let go and trust the Holy Spirit. Next, Craig Springer changed my life as he gave us practical strategies about sharing our faith and the role that the Holy Spirit it plays in that, as well as how to lean into the Holy Spirit more. And that episode I remember thinking time and time again. Why didn't somebody tell me these things sooner? Next, Ashrita to two equipped us to dive in a Scripture with her online presence and new book, The Bible and Breakfast, and she revealed the power of the Holy Spirit in Scripture. And last week, my sweet friend route, Chow Simmons of Grace Laced explored the God given call of creativity and what it looks like for you and I to lean into the Holy Spirit as we unleash the creative gifts that have been placed inside of each of us. Well, to be honest, there is one guest, but I have been waiting all season to get on the joy cast because of scheduling and technical issues. Well, I just got to talk to him this week, but I don't think God's timing could have been more perfect. You see, when Life and I lived in Denver, Colorado, when we were there for about eight years, we had the privilege of being part of Cherry Hills Community Church. And while we were there, the founding pastor handed the church to a gifted leader and communicator by the name of Shane Farmer. So we got to know Shane and his beautiful joy exploding wife Wendy. And they're amazing kids. And as many of you know, we left Denver about four years ago to come here to Utah to plant a campus just outside of Salt Lake City. Well, just this August, I went back to speak for the first time in goodness, almost four years or more at Cherry Hills, and all I can describe it is almost like this. It was a different feeling and sense of the spirit in the church. There was this radical shift that was just unmistakable. The intensity of worship, the crying out in prayer, the space that was made after the service is toe pray for those who were aching for healing. Well, I wasn't quite sure what was happening, but I remember that night Shane and Wendy and I. We went to a restaurant and gathered around the table, and he began sharing the story of how, a few years ago, he stumbled on a book on revival. Now this was something he had never studied or really been exposed to before, and it wrecked his world. And so now he and the church are joining tens of thousands around the world who are crying out to God for a mighty outpouring of God's spirit. I recognize that you may be one of those people who hears the word revival, and if you're honest, it sounds a little scary, A little sketchy, even. Or maybe wouldn't I say the word revival? You start to think of a big white tent and some preacher in some strange suit who's just yelling at you. But that is not what revival means. See, revival is the restoration of the church to a vibrant, passionate relationship with God. After a period of moral decline. Sound like something we might need right now. See the markers of revival include fervent prayer and worship, People coming to Know Christ in mass spiritual and physical healing, a deepening love of God's word as well as personal heart changes toward longing for holiness. You see, we see scripturally revivals to place during the history of the Israel lights. But there were these periods that we read about consistently. There were steep moral declined that were turned around by righteous kings who destroyed the pagan worship into an outpouring of God's presence and the spirit and a change toward moral incline and holiness. We see a mighty outpouring of the spirit in the Book of Acts. Now this is just isn't limited to what took place in Scripture. I mean, in our own nation, we experienced a first and a second and 1/3 great awakening in America morsel. Recently, there have been revivals that have taken place the Welsh Revival. We saw it again at the Azusa Street revival and so many more, and I believe that if you look around right now, you will see that we are primed for revival in our nation, the markers of moral decline. They are all around us. And more than ever, I believe we need a mighty outpouring off the Holy Spirit to renew and revive us that we would ache for those who don't know Jesus that we would be a people who are marked by prayer and worship and word that we would be a people who walk in the fullness of the power of the Holy Spirit each and every day. Now, normally, I would tell you to pull up a chair to this conversation. But I believe now you need to batten down the hatches. You need to strap on your helmet because it is time for us to seek God and the healing in our land. Shane Farmer, my dear friend, it iss such a delight toe, have you on the joy cast?
spk_1: 7:23
Thank you so much, Margaret. It's great to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
spk_0: 7:27
My goodness, I have the joy of living in Denver and attending your church and, um, watching as you transitioned in and the church exploding and growth. And it has just been stunning at Cherry Hills in Denver. It's just it's an amazing church. And yet there has been something that God has been up to over the last few years, and it is so exciting. Um, when we were with you in August, I remember sitting down and we were having dinner together. And you shared just that. There was a book you stumbled upon that kind of changed change, the way that you thought about but working of the Holy Spirit and God, would you be willing to share that with our listeners?
spk_1: 8:09
Yes, absolutely. But first, let me say that we miss you and we miss your husband. You guys are awesome. And I love how much God's using you where you're at now. But, ah, we do miss you here in the greater Denver area and special materials community Church. But yes, So you saw basically leading through a normal kind of difficult senior leader transition. And that was six years ago now. And I replaced an incredible founding pastor of 30 plus years, and I mean, just the man basically walked on water in this community and s I was that guy, the guy coming in after the guy and, you know, everyone said not smart to do, and I said, I know, but God's calling me so if I'm supposed to be the sacrificial lamb or whatever, I'll do that. But thankfully, gotta has kept us here, and we have survived so far. Um, but the first several years of this transition were, yeah, they were, like, the normal stuff leadership and strategy. And, you know, we need, you know, to be younger with their music and all this kind of normal kinds of things that are actually extremely difficult toe lead through. But then, ah, basically what happened is there. There was a number of incidents that kind of led up to a quite a strategic turning point in my own life and soul, and one of which was this book. But I'd like to go back just one step because, ah, few months before that, I was at a staff meeting one day and I felt like I heard the Lord almost as clearly as ever. Just like, kind of resounding thought came into my mind that we had prepared the wine skin. Now seek me to fill it. And I was like, What? What do you mean? What is that man? Did I am I hearing from you? And I heard him say the same thing again. You've prepared the way and skin now seek me to fill it. Honestly, I was a little offended because I was like, I've been working really hard. This is just the wine skin. You know what you mean? But I knew somehow God was saying, Hey, there's more of my spirit. There's more of my power. Um, And you've been getting the right, you know, vision and strategy and culture and people on DSS systems and all this kind of stuff. But are you gonna seek me to not fill it? And so that kind of disrupted me. And then someone placed a book in my hand called Y Revival Terry's by Leonard Raven Hill and I was on a trip. I was traveling internationally, and so I actually had a lot of time to read. And one of the things that I read in this book is he said any pastor who doesn't pray three hours a day isn't worth the diamond, does it? And I was like, Wow, self righteous. You know, I was really quick to throw accusations at him because I was feeling really small by what I had read. But funny enough Of course, I was like, That's impossible. He obviously doesn't know my life and you know, all these kinds of things. And yet I'm on this trip of Mike. Well, actually do have a lot of downtime and was, like a two week trip. And so I was like, Well, I'll take up the challenge on this trip, And that was the beginning of a pretty wild ride for us.
spk_0: 11:16
And what did that ride look like? Where did it begin? So you started praying. He started increasing your prayer life. You said on the trip It was a down trips. You had more time. Suddenly you come back to church. There's all of the demands that are going on. What does? How does this start to unfold?
spk_1: 11:32
Yeah, So in the midst of that trip, the first, like several days of praying this much Honestly, it just felt difficult. It just felt like a labor. But I just was like, Well, you know, I give this a try and you know, But I noticed after I don't remember exactly how long. Maybe third or fourth day I started just noticing attitude changes or mental changes. I started noticing internal things. And honestly, I noticed, like myself just being a little bit more holy for lack of a better terms. So I was like, Well, I don't know, You know, if my prayers are being answered externally yet, but I can tell you it's starting to do something to me. And so that kind of motivated me. And I just kept pressing in with, like, interceding several hours a day because, you know, I'm on a trip, but I got the time and all this and, um, a TTE the very end of that. I was actually traveling to speak to our denomination. Um, and the Lord put it on my heart, actually speak about the very subject I've just been reading about, which is revival. And you gotta know, like, I don't know anything about revival. I've just read a few books on this trip about revival. I had not been a revival history guy had never paid attention to it. Didn't know what it waas um, but in the process,
spk_0: 12:57
was that even mentioned in your training?
spk_1: 13:00
No, no, I just came and I said, Hey, we've heard of these awakenings in history and we need to see God for a great awakening. Today is essentially what I was saying. I wasn't differentiating between the words awakening in and revival. Um, but what happened leading up to it was something really startling is as I was praying all the sudden this overwhelming amount of emotion started coming over me for the lost and to the point, I was weeping and weeping so profoundly, um, that I had this one experience with Lord where is weeping for the lost praying for this next generation and literally a used up an entire box of Kleenex and this grief would come over me and like, waves. I describe it almost like contractions when it would hit would like her. But somehow I knew, like God was sharing his burdened heart for the lost with me cause I don't I love people that much. I wish I loved people that much. I want to love people that much. And I like to think, you know, um, that I do care about the loss. But I know I don't care enough to grieve like that. It was like God was sharing something with me. And so, in this prayer journey, there were these little encouragements or like I don't understand all of this. But God is doing something, and he's now wrecking my heart. Tohave, a move of God's spirit actually changes the eternity ease of this next generation in a way that's beyond my wildest dimension.
spk_0: 14:33
So what starts happening at the church? I mean, here you are. You're the pastor. You're you're the one who is leading, um, protecting a flock. And you're you're sensing this stirring in by the power of the Holy Spirit for the loss to reach people who have never known Jesus. What? How does this start to unfold in practical ways?
spk_1: 14:52
Well, you know, I like a lot of people when I feel like the Lord's really doing something. I get really excited about it. I'm kind of an evangelist for whatever I'm excited about. So now I'm excited about prayer, you know? So I'm coming back and I start, I'm gonna keep this, you know, prayer commitment now. And of course, that's kind of disruptive because, you know, I used to spend three hours a day on email, and now I'm trying to devote it to prayer, you know, like, where does this guy's priorities you know, and that I'm starting to encourage our executive team to join me for prayer. And, of course, they're like, Well, I've got a lot to do, too, And you know all these kinds of things. And I did 11 weeks Siris on intercessory prayer. So I'm really passionate now about intercessory prayer and trying to lead our church through it. And we actually did like a 40 day progressive, impartial, fast and leading up to this weekend we called Revival Weekend. And, um, so this was almost three years ago now. And so we turned every weekend service the Saturday night, the two Sunday mornings in the three Unique. It's kind like our winter camp for Dole's, but we prayed our way into it, and long story short, some really unexpected things happen because as we're praying for revival, you know we're praying for God to change the spiritual moral temperature of our area. We're praying for the lost to be saved, but I wasn't praying for some of the things that started to happen and some of things that started to happen, um, to a number of people and in some cases, myself ah, were things like visions, um, dreams spiritually encounters that we didn't know, um could happen. And, um, that started happening right around January 3 years ago. Um, and we didn't know what to do with it, right? I mean, well, I don't come. I come from a Southern Baptist background. Then I spent 10 years in kind of nondenominational megachurch world. And so here I am. I'm a Presbyterian church pastor now, and visions air happening and dreams are happening in these kind of spiritual encounters are happening that it just I hadn't really been around and so very exciting. Um, but as you can imagine, a little disruptive in our Presbyterian context.
spk_0: 17:14
Wow. And so as this is unfolding, you start kind of shifting things around at the church. Didn't you start adding a prayer meeting and adding some additional service is and is your kind of responding to the leading of the Holy Spirit?
spk_1: 17:30
Yeah, overtime. It's over a three year journey. We continue to just press in with prayer and calling people too increased prayer. And we would kind of do it in seasons. And, you know, we did 24 7 prayer sometimes, and we would do like 40 days together sometimes. And, um, we continued to kind of lead up to revival weekend and whatnot. But over time, that has continued to grow. And in fact, now we have. I think we're in our seventh week of 24 7 Prayer, and we've kicked it off without an in date, which we've never done before. And, uh, so it's been several years if anyone out there is ever let it a territory ministry before, you know, like trying to, like, really get people passionate and excited about prayers is a pretty difficult task of, but God's been doing it. And so we, in addition, Thio having prayer going 24 7 Now we've also felt like the Lord added a lead us to add what we call revival Night. So on Wednesday nights, we have Wednesday night service is, but there's a second half that turns into an intercessory time and, ah, screw people. They break the midnight barrier. Everyone's denies interceding for a great move of God and our in our land.
spk_0: 18:45
Wow! Wow, it's incredible. I mean, this is Ah, I know it's over a six year slash three year period, and yet there's this rapid transformation and what you're describing. It sounds like tilling the spiritual soil in so many ways. I mean, just, you know, the tears of the saints pouring out, crying for the loss, crying for that move of God, what are some of the fruits that that you have seen? I know. When I was there in August, I heard that incredible story of Ah, young boy, I think seven or nine years old and he was 90% blind in one eye, and suddenly, after being prayed for at a service, now could see clearly. What are some of the fruit of the prayer that you're already seen?
spk_1: 19:27
Yeah. You know, I would say, um um, after that, after the first revival night, I really felt like the Lord started to reveal that he wanted to do healing. And I was really, like, kind of caught off guard, like, What do you mean healing? You know, you have to understand for some people, when they say the words revival, they think of these kinds of charismatic things. We didn't really think of these kinds of charismatic things. Um, and so there was this season of me wrestling with, like I feel like God is telling me he's about to start doing this thing of healing. And and there was a little bit of context for it because over a course of a couple of years leading up to this, whereas we hadn't been moving in an intercessory prayer, a lot God had been like just I could hardly preach a sermon that wasn't somehow coming back to the subject of worship, worship, worship, worship, worship and particularly in our corporate times of worshippers were singing to the Lord. There were a handful of times where people came up saying that while they were worshipping, God healed them physically. And the first time this guy came up, well, that's kind of cool. Your hand was hell, the user, Yeah, he tells me about it. And these stories. At first it was like there was one, and six months later another one would happen and and towards the end, it was like, Man, it was like every month someone was coming up like a my back got hot as I was worshipping in my back's been in so much pain and I got my pain away and so we were kind of getting like. I don't know what God's doing, but he's doing this unusual thing with healing people while they're worshipping. And my wife ended up being one of them, which, of course, will make a believer, you know, um, but now he's saying he wants to do healing. And And I'm wrestling with this because I'm like, Okay, I'm not dumb. Like if God really started to heal people at a high level of frequency because, you know, a miracle every once in a while is cool. I understand that, but miracles consistently and frequently that could have really disrupt this congregation, and it could disrupt this place. But at the same time, I could tell God's initiating this. And so I'm like, All right, if you want, I'm gonna pray for it. And so literally we prayed one week in that next weekend, we had six people who came down front and asked for prayer. And, you know, people always come and pray a ham sik, would you pray for me? That's normal in church ministry. But in my experience, it wasn't normal for something to actually happen. First thing to actually get healed, and I got the watch firsthand. God take these people. Ah, number of them had Palin was at seven or eight and above go all the way down to nothing. And most of them were spines. Interestingly enough is like a lot of back injuries but really profound ones and ones that help, like, you know, they sustained. And that started us on a journey of God giving a anointing for healing. And it hasn't stopped. And we had to really wrestle with, like, Are we gonna tell the testimonies and really keep seeking after what the Lord's doing, where we're going to kind of try to keep it under the radar? We chose to say, If God's doing it, we're going to celebrate it. We're gonna testify, and you know that that that's been very challenging for our church. Um, but nevertheless, he has continued to do that throughout this course of time, which has been a really awesome thing. And the other area of really special breakthrough has been in salvation. Sze um you know, I stood here for years and asked, people, Do you want to receive Jesus? Present the gospel, you know, encourage people to raise their hands. Both heads bowed nice clothes. No one's looking around and all that kind of thing and was just so used to like, please let one raise their hands. So I won't be lying if I say I see your hand. You know, um, but suddenly this year, starting in March, I presented the gospel and, um, long story short over 100 hands went up to receive Christ that weekend and just put that in perspective. It was more than had received Christ at all. Nine of our Christmas outreach service is which are, like, tailor made for evangelism just a couple of months before. And so I was like, That's whoa, that's never happened in just a normal weekend. So the next weekend, we like, I think we should present the gospel again this weekend. We shouldn't wait, you know? And so we did, and over 100 hands raise their hand again. And long story short, we just haven't stopped visiting the gospel because we're just riding this wave of salvation. Tze and, um hey just keeps bringing people in, been saving them and so we're really excited about that.
spk_0: 24:14
And so there's this incredible food. I mean, it starts with prayer and then it, you know, the theme to you bought out is it leads to this awareness, and that's calling tau worship. It leads to this concern. For those who don't know Jesus, it leads to people coming and encountering the power in the person of Jesus Christ and given their heart to him. It leads to the healing. It leads everything that is talked about in the Gospels and the New Testament in such richness and a live nous. And I think I have some listeners out there who are in places where it spiritually dry, where they feel like they're been beating their head against a wall where God feels so far away. What kind of encouragement would you say to them who say, Wait, there's there's a thing called Revival and that perhaps God may want to do it Now What encouragement would you have?
spk_1: 25:04
Yeah, I would say, Um, there's more. There's more. And, you know, God says, if my people or called my name will humble themselves and will pray, I will seek my face and repent and turn from their wicked ways, and I will hear from heaven. I will forgive their sins and I will heal their land. And I'm just one person giving testimony that God is still responding. As people get hungry and they get low and they seek him and they turn towards him. And, um, I feel like we're just scratching the surface of a God who is infinite. And for me personally, it's just awakened such a childlike faith inside of me, and it's put so much energy and fuel to just keep seeking him and keep praying for more breakthroughs and pursuing him. And I want to encourage you. If you're out there and you've been feeling discouraged, you've been feeling deflated. You've been feeling defeated to begin seeking the Lord and ask an ascot as you seek him like What do you want me to seek you for? Like, what's the breakthrough? Because I have learned that there's, Ah, there's a thing that God's doing and he knows what's best. And, um, you know, I started off praying for a lot of things, but ultimately the prayers that have been very powerful is seeking him and then hearing from him, like what? What do you want to do next? Like what? What's in your heart? and to seek him for that. And, um, I know that he is still responding as his sons and daughters lay down their lives and pursue his. And so I hope that is encouraging too many out there.
spk_0: 26:48
Absolutely. You know, I've talked a lot about prayer in various books and studies that I have done in that idea that, you know, prayers. One top one part, you know, talking. But it is another part listening and is 1/3 part waiting. And I think we get the talking really well. But those second and third parts we stumble over in one of my favorite questions, you know, after in the process of praying is just asking Jesus Lord, what is on your heart today and sitting in the silence and waiting for that thought that pops in tow to my mind. And sometimes it may be a particular person. It could be a particular nation. It maybe ah, particular people group. And sometimes I asked him what was on your heart today, and he simply says you so. And there's that sweet communion that comes with Christ through the spirit that is, is liberating. It's freeing. It is empowering and I believe it fills us with a spirit in that space to do what he has called us to Dio. But it is grounded in that intimacy and that knowledge and that connection in that depth of of moving not just to the talking and prayer, but into the listening and the waiting. Any other books that you would recommend besides Leonard Raven Hills? Why revival Terry's? For those who are saying Wait a second, my church is dry. My spiritual life. Mister, I I I want this. This is maybe some of our listeners, much like you grew up in a background where revivals never talked about. It wasn't studied, it wasn't really looked at. What other titles would you suggest?
spk_1: 28:23
Yeah, I definitely would recommend, uh, you know, reading as many books on revivals as you can get your hands on it. You know, I started off with, like, Revival Fire, which I think came out in the nineties. Remember? Right, And, uh, he gives an account of like, a ton of revivals but are very brief one, it says a great introduction to revival history, and then the ability to go and read books on some of the specific ones more into individually revival in the head. Birdies, Um, I found to be just really kind of catalytic. Um, toe seek the more of God, Um, yes, some of the other titles Air eluding me. I'm not great at remembering the titles and the authors, but I will say those air couple of great places to start and just to dig in I mean, obviously, I've I've really enjoyed reading about the first grade awakening with the Marais Vian revival that preceded it. And they're really and, you know, in my view, kind of one connected event. Obviously the second great awakening. Um, the revival on Louis Island, the Welsh revival in the early 19 hundreds. I'll have been some that I've spent a little bit of additional time reading about. It would encourage others to do the same.
spk_0: 29:42
Absolutely, that it's so good and, you know, it's interesting. We were talking. I was thinking about It was also probably in March of this year, where it was the same thing. You know, I'd invite people, Do you Do you want to know Jesus and maybe a hand would go up or two or none, and All of a sudden I started asking and it was dozens and dozens and dozens of hands everywhere. And I just have this sense that the Holy Spirit is deeply on the move in your church, in your community and in so many churches and communities and in so many hearts, and that this is coming. I mean, I believe it with every fiber of my being that if for those were discouraged in the darkness and the tension in the polarization of this age that the spirit of God is on the move and he is going to pour out in our country and in our world in ways that I don't believe we've ever seen before.
spk_1: 30:35
Yes, I'm with you there. I don't believe it. It's coming soon
spk_0: 30:39
and we pray for it and we ask for it. And we ache for it that we would be people of worship and evangelism and prayer that we would be people who are seeing the loss, save their seeing people, healed that air, seeing the manifest presence of God, intangible, measurable, documentable ways. And now one of the questions that we love to ask him a joy cast because we believe that part of revival is not individual, but it is community, and it is people gathering around and it is communal. But we love to ask our guests for a recipe that they could share with our listeners. What would you like to share? Innovation.
spk_1: 31:15
Yeah, well, I'll try to draw a picture verbally. Obviously can't draw one visually for you, so one should imagine is the horizontal line. On the left of the horizontal line is the word word. And on the right side of the horizontal line is the word spirit. So this line is word and spirit and then put a vertical line in the middle of it. So you're getting across at the top of the vertical line, worship the bottom of the vertical line for you. So this intersection of God's house being a house of both worship and prayer of word and spirit, If I was to say anything about what gods let us into, it's this pursuit holistically of worship and prayer. Word in sphere. Often these things were pitted against each other and kind of subtle ways, right? The spirit people, you know, kind of, you know, having this sort of view of the word that's not always that high. Then the word people kind of being, you know, looking at the spirit people like there, you know, so class or whatever. And sometimes you get houses of prayer as soon as you get houses of worship and you know, places of worship there celebrating what already God has already done in their places of joy and enthusiasm, excitement and houses a prayer like they tend to allow their hearts to get broken. They sink into what's not right, what's breaking God's heart. And sometimes you find like there's people. They move towards prayer but not worship the worship prince, prayer or spirit, but not worried. We're not spirit. And if I was to say, a formula for the way God has led us is to be word and spirit worship in prayer and what I often find is that if you get kind of you know, word at each of these intersections, you'll find places that kind of emphasize that intersection, but kind of cut off the rest right, and I won't go through it all. But you could kind of imagine like, you know, if you get a place It's like worship at the intersection of worship and word, that kind of top and left side. What you end up with is like a lot of burn out, because there's a lot of pouring out and there's a lot of devotion. But there's not a lot of replenishing its like the lamp burning of the lamp, and it's important. But there's not enough oil in the lamp to keep it going, because prayers, how you access the spirit you need to spirit, right? And so, um, and you can kind of you, you know, move your way around the circle. And there there are issues when you don't have a holistic word spear and worship and prayer. And, um, I just believe that there's so much, um, so much Maur And there's such a strength. I kind of like picture like putting a line, and that it's like a really strong shield Thio. And so my encouragement for people would be evaluate where you're at on the word we're spirit spectrum, and if you're not coming for the fullness of both, like, you know, increase it and be balanced in at the same time the same way with worship and prayer. Um, which way are you leaning? And is there more? Seek the more, but also seek them in balance. And when those four things come together, great things happen.
spk_0: 34:19
Well, thank you, Shane. I am so grateful for you. Your friendship, your incredible wife. Wendy. You're durable kids who I love following on insta and Facebook and just who you are and the work God is doing. And you Thank you so much today for being on the joy cast.
spk_1: 34:35
Margaret, you're too kind. Thank you so much. And thanks to everybody for listening, we hope this was helpful.
spk_0: 34:44
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