Why Personal Accountability Is Important with Adam Kremer

In episode 2 of Other People's Perspective, Freddy Cocek welcomes his first guest, Adam Kremer as they explore the crucial role of parenting and leadership in preparing young people for adulthood and the workforce. They emphasize the importance of being open to learning and experiencing new things outside of one's current industry or job role, as it can broaden one's perspective and create new opportunities.

Tune in to promote success and create a positive impact in your respective industries.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:07:36] Integrity and Accountability.

[00:12:35] Relationships in Business.

[00:17:06] Career and Parenting Balance.

[00:26:33] Reflection on the Past and the Evolution of Technology

[00:45:07] Role of Community in Guiding Young Individuals

[00:49:29] Desire and Drive for Success.

[00:52:09] Pushing Beyond Mediocrity.

[00:55:37] Prioritizing Impact Over Income

In this episode, Freddy Cocek and Adam Kremer discuss how integrity and accountability hold immense significance in the business world. They highlight that possessing integrity and accountability sets individuals apart in the business realm. They then emphasize that these qualities are not only lacking in business but also in other areas of society. Adam also implies that integrity is about one's actions behind closed doors, while accountability focuses on external consequences and taking responsibility for one's actions.

QUOTES

• “But a lot of people tend to sort of, you know, get entrenched where they're at. And if they're not making the conscious effort or they're not being prompted or pushed to experience other things, then you kind of just kind of get in your little road or you stay in your lane. And that's all you know, for the most part, until you are either forced into another lane or you make the conscious choice to change lanes.” - Freddy Cocek
• "The ones that doubted, hated, all that sort of stuff was a great place to start because it just was like, I'm gonna prove all these guys wrong." - Adam Kremer
• “The bigger aspect of all that that lends to your individual credibility is the fact that you have the personal initiative or you have it within you and you have put forth the personal initiative to pursue those things and educate yourself and utilize those tools and those resources to be able to do those things for yourself.” - Freddy Cocek
• "So if people are worried about being replaced, it's because they don't want to put in the work to develop the skills that it's going to take to not get replaced, which in all reality really isn't that difficult." - Adam Kremer
• "I think I could do that in silence, but being a little louder and be able to change other people's lives, it's a lot more fulfilling than just going out and making a **** ton of money." - Adam Kremer

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Transcript

Intro/Outro00:00:01 - 00:00:20

Welcome to Other People's Perspective, a place for you to listen, learn, laugh, and always feel better at the end of every episode, taking something bigger away from it for you and others. And now here's your host, Freddy Cocek.

Freddy Cocek00:20 - 00:42

Welcome to the show. We'll, uh, we'll run back through a little bit of, of, uh, some of the stuff that I should have been recording in the first few minutes, but, uh, um, My guest here today on this inaugural episode is Adam, is it Kremer? Kremer. Yeah. Kremer. Okay. I just want to make sure it wasn't Kramer. I want to get the pronunciation right.

Adam Kremer00:42 - 00:44

Yeah. It's spelled wrong. Don't worry. It's the most most butcher.

Freddy Cocek00:46 - 02:04

You see my last name, you think your last name gets butchered on the spelling and pronunciation? Yeah, you look at mine, you know, the spelling is one thing. Yeah, exactly. The spelling is one thing, but the pronunciations and stuff that I get from people sometimes. And then when I tell them how it's actually supposed to be pronounced correctly by the You know, by the nationality and by the history of it, I usually get that look like. What like, yeah, it's pronounced most people stop and when you say that over the phone, if there's no. You know, if it's a communication by phone. just verbally or audibly. And you're not seeing someone actually speak the name and say the word. I mean, it throws most people off. And even, you know, when I meet people face to face and say the name, they're like, well, I'm like, whatever, just just call it COSAC or COCAC or whatever. I mean, it's yeah, it's it's it's been it's been hacked and butchered a lot. I believe it. Yes, sir. So anyhow, okay, we'll run back through. Tell me again a little bit about your yourself and your quick background.

Adam Kremer02:04 - 02:27

Yeah, yeah, quick background started. I mean, starting at 18. That's really not that long ago, five years. So started out in the oil field, did electrical work out there and do construction on oil sites. Did you, you had to feel it down to Texas where it was the like the oil, it like tanks, they had Russia, Saudi Arabia issues. Oil prices were like negative 35.

Freddy Cocek02:27 - 03:13

Yes. I've been through the cycles and the downturns. Negative oil prices, that was back in 2020. I guess it was in 2020. Yeah, it was in 2020. Subsequently, once all the COVID stuff started, it it wrecked the oil market. And a few years before that, back in 2015, late 2014. And then going into 2015 and 2016, the the oil industry globally was, was it was it was kind of in a shambles. So yeah, we've been through those those cycles of that. It's Yeah, it's an interesting industry when that happens.

Adam Kremer03:14 - 03:54

That's when I was done with it. So at 2020 is when I lost, I lost my job out there. So that pushed me right into, um, still doing electrical, just build building on solar farms. Um, that didn't go my way, which transitioned me right into sales, selling the energy that the solar farms are producing. So since then it's been door to door helping teams or helping build teams for other companies, um, building out CRMs, that sort of stuff. And then. kind of took that and did my own thing with it. So has built, built an organization as of last year, February, um, started the company. So now we're about almost 15 strong out in the field. And then I think we have six overseas that are working as well.

Freddy Cocek03:54 - 05:29

Wow. That's great. Yeah, this just in the last little over a year since, you know, since I got involved with Apex and, you know, that setting and that group of people, it's been an interesting learning opportunity for me because, you know, I've been in the oil industry for, what, 23 years now, and a vast majority of my career and with my line of business, the utilization of what a lot of people use in these different industries and spaces that I've met in the last year or so. I'm not going to say it's nothing that's... It's not that it's not applicable in my industry, but for my particular business, it was nothing that we you know, nothing that we were utilizing and most other comparable businesses similar to mine, most people, they're not using, you know, CRM systems and stuff like that to manage aspects of their operations. So it's been an interesting learning opportunity for myself to, you know, experience that and see see people building these systems and designing this stuff and learning how it works and seeing the application of it. It really made me realize that there's a whole other world out there aside from what I've been doing. It's been cool. It's been a pretty interesting breath of fresh air.

Adam Kremer05:31 - 05:39

Yeah, when it's not the norm in your industry, but you're surrounded by a bunch of people that are using it, and then you realize you can take it and you can put it in yours. It's like, yes, yeah, I'm all about it.

Freddy Cocek05:39 - 07:00

That's, that's, there are, there are certain aspects of, you know, the oil and gas industry, you know, since I'm where I'm at is more on the kind of the, you know, the service end of things, not that it doesn't, you know, not that those systems and those processes don't apply in the, in the, you know, like a service based industry, like what we do, but, um, I know there's an application and a utilization of it in some places, but it's been interesting to see It's been it's been pretty awesome to finally, you know, get myself into a place and in a position to experience and learn stuff about other industries besides where I've been, because I've always known, I mean, everybody knows that there's, there's more out there in the world than just what you're doing at a given time. But a lot of people tend to sort of, you know, get get entrenched where they're at. And if they're not making the conscious effort or they're not being prompted or pushed to experience other things, then you kind of you just kind of get in your little in your little road or you stay in your lane. And that's all you know, for the most part, until you are either forced into another lane or you make the conscious choice to change lanes.

Adam Kremer07:00 - 07:03

Yeah. What got you here won't get you there. Breach.

Freddy Cocek07:06 - 07:48

Very much so, very much so. So the best way for me to get your perspective on certain things, I guess, is to hopefully ask the right questions. I'm sure that through the course of everything, I won't always ask all of the right questions, but I'll try to ask questions that are either fitting for yourself or a given guest or just hopefully whatever fits in the moment. Give me give me your perspective, your thoughts and your perspective on integrity and accountability and in the business world and business operations.

Adam Kremer07:48 - 07:50

Yeah, yeah. Integrity and accountability.

Freddy Cocek07:50 - 08:01

Yes. Yeah, I would say. Or how you think that that that one may lend to the other or, you know, one may, you know, feed into or from the other.

Adam Kremer08:01 - 08:23

Yeah, yeah. For I mean, business now, it seems like the only thing that really separates you in business right now is having integrity and accountability. I feel like that's something that lacks huge, not just in business, but all over the place. I don't think that accountability is really there, especially my generation, as I'm sure, I mean, you're raising one of me. So, you know, you're, you're, you're,

Freddy Cocek08:25 - 09:10

you are fortunately one of the exceptions to, I'm not going to say the rule, but kind of the norm or what some people perceive as the norm, because the younger generation now, there is a large perception that there's a lack of accountability. And I guess a lack of accountability in certain capacities lends to a lack or loss of integrity or no integrity at all. And unfortunately, in some cases, but yeah, you're, you're, you're a young gun, you're a young dude, but still you, like I say, you're, you're an exception to what's perceived as the norm. So you're, you're on the right track.

Adam Kremer09:10 - 10:07

Yeah, yeah, no, I appreciate it. I think, I think a big thing is, is that accountability, you have to look, you have to look in, in order to have that. And I think that most people, I should I think I could say most people, they tend to put it on to stuff that's completely outside of. Outside of their control, right? Like it's there. They're blaming on on traffic for being late rather than them leaving early. They're blaming all sorts of outside factors, because if you look in, you have to take a hit on the ego. Are you doing something wrong? So I think it's a lot easier for people just to kind of push that to the side. And I think that integrity, accountability really ties to the same thing. Accountability is. taking responsibility for it. Integrity is what's happening behind closed doors. So I would say that they go hand in hand together, but accountability is just you actually getting called on your shit and you having to take that responsibility for it versus integrity is just what's happening.

Freddy Cocek10:07 - 10:56

They say one of the definitions of integrity is doing the right thing even when nobody's looking. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people, and not just the quote unquote younger generation, there's a lot of people across the whole spectrum that they're not even concerned with doing the right thing when someone is looking, much less when nobody's around and when it doesn't earn them credits or get you likes or gain you followers or whatever that there's, you know, there's there's people that just they don't they don't give the first thought to to maintaining any level of integrity.

Adam Kremer10:56 - 11:06

So, yeah, exactly. They'll pick up a piece of garbage in the in the parking lot to impress the boss and throw it out the window as soon as they get down the road.

Freddy Cocek11:06 - 11:48

I'm sure that happens a lot more than we care to know, but you're absolutely right. Yeah. What's your take and what's your perspective on family and relationships in regards to business and how How do you, what's your perspective on the importance of family and relationships when it comes to work and business and, you know, conducting your daily ops or conducting your job, not just daily, but, you know, in general?

Adam Kremer11:48 - 13:35

Yeah, I would say, I would say just on the relationship side of it, I think it, I think relationships matter. I don't think family should be, should be like roped into that. I don't know if you've had a similar experience, but I mean, as I've grown personally and grown in like my personal life and business and all that sort of stuff, it really filters out those people that don't actually support, like they, they don't want the best version of you. They want the best version of you that serves them best. And I noticed that even with blood family where it's, I mean. I've even had phone calls where they call me and hope that I fail like full on, just terrible, terrible phone calls. I wish nobody ever has to deal with, but I don't, I don't rope family in with relationships. Um, and that, that playing a part, I think it's just relationships in general. Um, and how that plays a role. I would say it's. None of us are really doing the whole business, busting my ass 14 hours a day, working seven days a week for two years straight to have a bunch of money. Right. It's it's not really about the number for some people. It may be for me. It definitely isn't. I would say for majority isn't. It's the freedom to do those things you want with those people you have the relationships with and being able to at least serve them best. And if you don't. You don't have those relationships in your life. It's I personally, I would find it very difficult to have the motivation to keep going. Like if I didn't have like my mom's a great, great supporter of me, but then I also have the people in Apex that that I'm very close with. where they're in constantly in my corner, if I'm down, hyping me up, helping me out, going through problems with me, they're to vent there for advice. Like if you don't have that structure, it's, I mean, you're going to feel super alone very quick because it's never an easy road in business as I'm sure you know.

Freddy Cocek13:35 - 18:48

It's, it is a, it is a long or it can be a long and treacherous one. And you're absolutely right. You know, having a support system, um, as you're As you're pursuing your, whether it's your dreams or goals or just your aspirations of what you want to do with yourself or for yourself, it's difficult to go it alone. Like you say, you can either burn out or get, you can lose interest and get frustrated and get balled up pretty quickly when you don't have, and not that everybody wants a cheerleader, you know, rah, rah, rah, you know, cheering you on and giving you all the feel good all the time, but just knowing that you have someone in your corner and I ask about family and relationships, and I understand there's a lot of dynamics sometimes with people in regards to family because some people are fortunate to have, whether it's their entire family or just certain individuals within their family that are supportive and there for you. Unfortunately, there's people out there that don't have that. And so that's, you know, that that makes it tough to not that it makes it impossible. But, you know, that the that's awesome. You said your said your mom is a is a big supporter, like she's she's she's on board with you. That's that's great. That's awesome. It's it goes a long way. It goes it goes a lot farther than some people realize. And there are people out there that that they Sometimes people will take that for granted. And I don't think everyone, I'm not trying to portray it negatively or look at it in a bad light, but having having people there, whether it's family or if and relationships are hard, like, you know, in your line of business, what you're doing, if you're traveling, you're running all over the country, you're running around doing, you're gone, like what, you know, the place that you call home, if you're if you're not spending much time there, then it's, it's hard. I've never, you know, In my career and my working career, and in all my years with my jobs, when I had employers and worked for people prior to owning my own business, course I had, you know, my, my, my oldest son, you know, he's 22. So I had my, you know, my first, my first kid, you know, was I had, I had a kid, you know, less than a year after I started working in the, in the oil and gas business, which, you know, working in the oil field was, that was my, that was my like initial career. I was, I was going to college at the time, went to school for a couple of years and, And, uh, ended up in the oil field because I really just wanted to work. I didn't want to go to college. I just, I had that taste for money and, uh, yeah. So, um, once, once I, once I had my son, you know, I was, I was a parent at an early age, so I kind of based my, based my, my, my work and my career. where I wasn't, I wasn't traveling and I wasn't going all over the place. I was, I was fortunate at the time to have something that, uh, you know, gave me a level of stability that I needed because of the fact that I, you know, cause I had a young child and I was trying to, you know, his mom and I, you know, things didn't work out initially. Um, but I was still, you know, trying to be an involved and active parent. And so I, uh, I didn't have the I wasn't in the position and didn't have the, the quote unquote, if you want to call it an opportunity to. you know, travel around to different places. Because I think, you know, had my life situation been different, I think it would have been interesting to utilize, you know, my working career to kind of do something along the lines of what you're doing. Use it to travel around and to have the opportunity to see other things and other places and meet people in different areas and do different things and not, I mean, I'm not, trust me, I'm not, I'm not disappointed that I, you know, stayed relatively local where, where I've been because my biggest obligation, you know, was, was taking care of my son and being there for my kids. But, um, the, uh, the, the, in a different life, it would have been an opportunity to, to utilize, to, you know, go, you know, travel around and that's, in a relationship sense, I would imagine that's, it's, uh, it would be difficult probably to, to maintain a relationship or have something in that, in that capacity while you're, while you're on the go all the time.

Adam Kremer18:48 - 19:50

Yeah, no, absolutely. Majority of it's all, all virtual at this point of just straight, just phone calls. That's about it. Nothing, nothing in person with the people I care about. But yeah, I think in both, in both capacities on the relationship side of it, both, have been a great fuel for me. The ones that doubted, hated, all that sort of stuff was a great place to start because it just was like, I'm gonna prove all these guys wrong. And then it got to the point where it's like, okay, well, I've done that. Now I need to like, I need to reassess on the reasons that I'm doing these things because proving them wrong stopped at about 200,000. So that's not gonna get me too far. So readjusting around those relationships, I'm like, okay, what's the actual why? Like for you, it didn't start through like, I'm gonna prove these fuckers wrong. It's more so I'm gonna set people up for a good life, AKA your kids. So yeah, I would say that the relationships tying into the why and the reason that you're out there doing the things is a game changer. Yes. You gotta get premium, boy.

Freddy Cocek19:51 - 21:03

Oh, I thought I had it. Do I get it to move? Oh, there it goes. I thought it. Anyways, I guess, yeah, I guess I'll be upgrading. I thought I was already upgraded. Apparently not. So how do I do this? Oh, wait, I clicked something. Did I lose you? No, you're good to go. I can still see you. Oh, OK. Well, I can't see you, but I guess it's just because it's prompting me to Give you a credit card? Yeah, let's see here. I thought I already had all this stuff done. I'm going to blame this on Sebastian. Well. How do I move this? Just bear with me here. Oh, it's asking for all my information age. That's kind of invasive to ask my age. What if I don't want to give you my age? Let's see here.

Adam Kremer21:03 - 21:11

I am with my employees to ask how old I am. I'm like, shit, you got to get hired before you learn how old I am. Yeah.

Freddy Cocek21:11 - 21:37

So it is inappropriate to ask a woman or me their age. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see here. Bear with me. I can't believe this is happening. It's like, it's like performance anxiety. All this happening right in the middle of all this.

Adam Kremer21:37 - 21:47

Performance anxiety. Yeah. Something like that. Something like that.

Freddy Cocek21:47 - 22:14

Why is it doing? Okay. Yeah, I thought I had all this stuff situated the other day and I didn't know I was going to hit a somewhat, not necessarily a roadblock, but a little bump in the road here to get all this stuff. I don't know. We'll get all this edited out. If not, then we'll figure it out.

Adam Kremer22:15 - 22:18

Yeah, I never, never expect smooth sailing. First one's always pissing in the wind.

Freddy Cocek22:18 - 23:53

Yeah, exactly. Dude. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm stoked about doing this and I'm, I'm looking forward to, you know, where, where it takes me and, and where it, uh, you know, where it's going to take, you know, not only myself, but other people that I, you know, have the opportunity and the blessing to, to get involved and, um, But yeah, I'm not tech savvy. I'm like terrible when it comes to computers and all this. And I really just, uh, I need to, I've been trying to hire, I want to get a, uh, get myself like a dedicated assistant, uh, that can do all this stuff for me for the most part. But right now it's like, it's like starting a business. It's like, you got to wing it while you're, uh, while you're on the uptick. Let's see. So I'm trying to juggle things and handle certain aspects of responsibility that I don't, especially when it comes to computers and tech stuff. I'm not a tech guy. Put me behind a piece of equipment or machinery or something, yeah, I'm good all day long. When it comes to having to do all this, I'm a little different.

Adam Kremer23:53 - 23:57

Well, this is a one-time thing, as long as you got it on autopay.

Freddy Cocek23:57 - 24:11

Yeah, hopefully so. I thought I had this, thought I had that stuff set up last time we went through all this, but oh well. And it'll make for another good portion of the storyline.

Adam Kremer24:15 - 24:21

So where are you at? I'm in Minnesota right now. I'm in southern Minnesota. Yeah.

Freddy Cocek24:21 - 24:24

Okay. What's the weather like?

Adam Kremer24:24 - 24:35

We got hot. I mean, it's like 68, I think today, but we got highs 80 at the end of the week and be about 70s. I would say on average. Nice.

Freddy Cocek24:35 - 25:50

It's like, uh, well, it's finally, it's, I think the hardest part of the heat and the summer here has finally kind of broke. Um, It was, um, it was triple digit heat life. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Well over a month, I don't know how long I didn't count the days. There's quit counting. I was like, whatever. It's hot in south Texas, south Texas and Texas in general. It, uh, um, it was hot. And then finally we we've had some, but we've had a alleviation in the weather. So that's, that's, uh, I mean, like now, like it's still probably 95, 96, 97, something like that outside, but at least it's like, typically like, okay. So it was like three 30 in the afternoon here, central time. Uh, this is like, Rewind about three weeks ago. And like, this is like the hot, about the hottest part of the day. It's miserable. And it's, it was like 104, 105, 106. Some days it was hotter than that. So at least, uh, at least we're past that part of it.

Adam Kremer25:50 - 25:54

Yeah, that's gross. That's super gross. It's fricking sticky down there too.

Freddy Cocek25:54 - 26:16

I don't know where they get the humidity from, but it's sticky as hell. There you are. OK. All right. We're back. Yes, I can see you now. I guess you could see me the whole time, but I was looking at this. Zoom still, I think it was. I saw you going a little cross-eyed.

Adam Kremer26:16 - 26:18

OK.

Freddy Cocek26:18 - 26:54

That's just normal. That's not even the computer. That's just me. OK, let's. Give me your give me your perspective on. What do you think about the current status of our, I'm not gonna say our country, I'm just gonna say the current status of the world in general, the way that you see it, and where do you think and feel that our world will be or where things will stand, where we'll be at, say, three to five years from now?

Adam Kremer26:54 - 28:04

Yeah, I don't know, that's a really good question. I see, it makes me feel like My grandparents already, where they, I mean, what they grew up with compared to what it is now, they're like, there's so much different stuff. But even like 10 years ago, when I had my first phone and that things like sliding up, doing, doing the keyboard, like, I, I feel like that stuff is like way outdated at this point. And that's only 10 years with AI, new tech, as fast as everything's moving. I don't know if anybody can really call what it's going to be five years from now, What I do know is that a, I mean, I know you said you're not, not bringing it to the country, but I think that, um, a status of a country really is based on how the people within it get along. So it really depends on if we can come together as a collective in the U S here soon. Otherwise we may see something similar to, to Rome falling in the, in the next five, 10 years in the, in the U S. So I think between that and as fast as tech is moving, I think it's going to be. insane in the next five years on how fast we're getting stuff done.

Freddy Cocek28:04 - 30:58

Yeah, it's, it's, uh, and you know, like I was to kind of go back to what I was saying earlier, you know, that, um, since I got involved with apex, you know, I had kind of been in my, not in my own little bubble, but in my industry and in my capacity with my business, I was not exposed to near as much, uh, uh, utilization of, of tech, uh, as what I have been in the time that I've been involved with apex and, and been around people that like, that's, you know, where the, where their, their business is heavily technology based. Um, I just, uh, I've, I've learned a lot and, and, uh, just, just watching what other people are doing. And it's, it's fucking scary to me on some of it. I was just having, I was having a conversation with my son the other day with my younger one, my 14 year old. And, and, you know, he's, he's, he's smart. He's very intelligent. He's very, very out. And, uh, we were talking about some, you know, different aspects of technology and, and it's, just the stuff that we as civilians know about, it's scary if you think about the capabilities that some of that stuff has. And there's, I feel fairly certain there's probably, there's technologies out there that are way above and beyond anything that anyone as a general consumer or a civilian knows about that stuff is, It's wild and it's scary. And it's, it's almost some of that stuff to me, it's like, it's like opening Pandora's box, like messing with some of that stuff. It's like, I don't know. Maybe, maybe because I was raised, you know, my, my, my dad, my dad passed away many years ago. My dad was an older, an older parent and I was raised around a lot of older people. And so like my mentality and my thinking about a lot of things is kind of, you know, I guess kind of old school. Um, but yeah, some of that stuff, like it, it blows my mind and you know, some of it, you know, the, the utilization of some of that technology is great. It's, it's awesome and it's helpful, but I think it's a, you know, it's a, it's a two headed coin, you know, it's a double edged sword and, and where some of that stuff is going to put us or where it's going to take us. Um, like you said, things are like moving so fast. Sometimes it's, it's hard to, it's kind of hard to gauge or hard to say where, where you think that, that aspect of things might be. It's, um, And it's, and it's always moving and it's always changing and developing and growing. And I don't know, it's wild.

Adam Kremer30:58 - 32:16

I mean, there's, there's a lot of talk and I mean, there's like writer strikes going on. There's, um, Everybody that's worried about, oh, we're going to be replaced by, by all of these things. Um, but the, the crazy thing is, is that as technology moves, like, yeah, we are, we are having to do less like chat, UBT, like that, even that in and of itself. I mean, there's a ton of AI tools, but that gives you access to info like that, that you need. You're not having to search on Google and go on and find all this stuff. You have access to info like that. So just as fast as tech is moving. Also at the same speed as how much access to information we have. So there's a lot of people worried about them being replaced, but at the same end of it, you are now able to go out and learn how to literally, I mean, I've learned to build a business on YouTube. Like that's it. Like pretty much, I mean, I have Apex as well, but overall I would say 80% of my problems that I have, I don't even bring to Apex. I'm on the AIs. I'm on YouTube. I'm going through looking at forums. I'm looking through what other people have done. And even just listening to podcasts, like. you can get so much info without having to go to college or even cracking a book. So if people are worried about being replaced, it's because they don't want to put in the work to develop the skills that it's going to take to not get replaced, which in all reality really isn't that difficult.

Freddy Cocek32:16 - 36:08

Yeah, I have been. Kudos to you, I think that's remarkable and impressive. And in my opinion, for you personally to have figured out or not only figured out, part of it is understanding how to utilize those systems and processes and figuring out. But I think the bigger part, The bigger aspect of all that that lends to your individual credibility is the fact that you have the personal initiative or you have it within you and you have put forth the personal initiative to pursue those things and educate yourself and utilize those tools and those resources to be able to do those things for yourself. That's a huge learning lesson for Up and coming, you know, I still feel like a fucking dinosaur when I say all young kids like. But yes, for, for, you know, younger generations and younger kids that are up and coming, you know, whether they're, you know, teenagers progressing through high school or middle school, high school, coming up to where they're going to, they're going to graduate high school and, and either, you know, go on to, to college or at least be at the age where they're, you know, they're moving into, you know, the, the workforce and the work environment. Um, the fact that, all of that data and all those resources and such are out there. Essentially, at, you know, damn near at your fingertips. And yeah, I mean, it absolutely is. And the fact that that stuff is out there. That's awesome. I mean, it's, it almost it creates an almost endless uh string of of opportunity it just you know the opportunities are there it's just all about you know the individual uh either being prompted to pursue those opportunities or taking it upon themselves to uh you know figure out how to get to those opportunities and how to utilize that that knowledge and data to uh to benefit themselves i mean like you said i mean you you built a more or less built you a business off of YouTube by researching and using information that's easily accessible. It's fucking awesome. I remember when I was in elementary school, I remember going to the library and using a card catalog. I was talking about a card catalog with my son a while back and I didn't even know what I was talking about. I was like, never mind. I'm not even that old. I'm in my 40s. I'm not I'm not old, but I remember that stuff. I'm like, now, you just pick up the phone, you just punch a few things and an exponentially greater amount of information and data that's available with just minimal effort. And another, I guess, to add another point to that is, you, uh, you know, anyone yourself or anyone that, that, that goes that route, you have to be, uh, you have to be smart enough, wise enough or perceptive enough to know what is, you know, what's, what's good data, what's bad data and what's useful. And, and, you know, what's, what's detrimental. I'm sure there's a, there's a level of, you know, sifting through the bullshit on some of it to, uh, to figure out what, what works best or what's, what's legitimate or if something is not legitimate, then I mean, that's just that's just judgment calls you have to make. And those are some things you got to learn along the way.

Adam Kremer36:08 - 37:03

But yeah, yeah, it seems like everybody's everybody's a freaking guru. So you really got to really got to sift through that info. But I mean, even last week, it was where we're looking to, like, launch new recruiting campaigns. I mean, it's three hours of YouTube and forums and diving into a couple of things, and I tested out like six different tools. And within a day, we had Software is ready to go warming up on cold email campaigns. So how we're warming that up, how we're going to hit the inbox every single time, how we're scraping the data right from LinkedIn, how we're building that email list and the structure that we should have for the actual emails. And that's through like using chat GPT to build out those emails and make sure that they're compelling. So I mean, you could do an insane amount within 24 hours from zero knowledge on running cold email to Boom. Now we have a full campaign set up a full strategy. Two weeks from now, we're able to launch this and start sending out a hundred to 300 emails a day.

Freddy Cocek37:03 - 37:47

Wow. That's good stuff. And who knows, you know, who knows where it's going to be, you know, three to five years from now or 10 years. Exactly. Exactly. If you, if you re if you rewind and go back, you know, go back five years or 10 years, um, Do you think that that people's people's thought or, you know, some people's thought or perception at that time was, do you think that they would be that we would be where we are now in that, you know, 5 years or 10 years that they might have thought, hey, there's there's no way we'll be that advanced in 5 or 10 years. And it's just it. It's exponential, so much of it anyway.

Adam Kremer37:47 - 38:20

Yeah, I think it depends on the generation on what their perspective is on it. I think my generation understands that pretty much anything's possible at this point. I don't think that we have really any expectation or any doubt that the future is going to be absolutely insane. Just as much as we've seen in our timeline. In their 80s, I'm sure they saw moving a lot slower up until now. I don't know if they have the same belief that anything could happen, but Yeah, they should if they don't, because it's I think we've seen enough to realize that it's moving way faster than any of us can fathom.

Freddy Cocek38:20 - 38:31

Yeah. Good stuff, man. I'm I'm I'm cautiously optimistic to see see what happens with things and see how it all goes.

Adam Kremer38:31 - 39:00

Yeah, no, absolutely. I think it's going to it's going to start with entertainment. I mean, it seems like that's been the trend is whatever can get people's attention is what the tech always starts with before it transitions over. that's why you see like the writer strikes first is because Hollywood is entertainment. That's where they're going to start with it. And then eventually that'll roll into being actually useful for, for getting things done besides being distracted. But same thing with phones. I mean, phones, it was all just, how can we make it more entertaining? And then we figured out how we can use them more as a tool.

Freddy Cocek39:00 - 40:30

Yeah, it's definitely a very powerful tool. That was, that was part of the conversation I was having with my son. We were talking about, um, I think he was looking up the searching for something on like Facebook marketplace. And I remember him telling me that he's a dad, I didn't even, I didn't even say it out loud. He said, I was just I was thinking about, I don't remember what it was, some something, something in particular, he said, I didn't even talk about it. I didn't fucking say it. And he said, like, when he went to the marketplace or wherever, wherever he was looking, like the first thing that came up was the deal that he'd been thinking about. And I was like, you know, he said, he said, that's weird. And I said, you know, that, that is it coincidental or is it not? Yeah. I told him, I said, you know, there, I think I wouldn't, I wouldn't, uh, I wouldn't rule out that there's there, there's technologies out there that, that, uh, have the capacity or the capability. I'm not going to say it's going to, it has the, the, the, uh, ability to read your thoughts. But I don't know, I've had similar situations, you know, happened to me before where you're you're thinking about something. And then like the next day, it's like, there it is right there in front of you on whether it's, you know, something you're looking at on social media or something you pull up and it's right there. And is it coincidence? Or is there more to it? Who knows?

Adam Kremer40:31 - 41:23

I don't know if, um, I don't know if you saw, I found it super interesting. It's, it's kind of similar to that, but not quite. Cause it's, it's a little more in depth, but they took and they strapped, like, you know, where you could put the, like the buttons all over your head and you can read your brain. You can see like where it's firing, get like the heat maps on it. They did that with AI and they put pictures in front of people. And the AI would take the intake from their eyes would fire off in the brain. And the AI was able to paint that same picture, almost exactly what they were seeing. up on a screen. So they are actually able to read your mind. It just has to be plugged into it currently. I mean, maybe they have other technologies for it, but yeah, as soon as I saw that, like you, like a human lie, like the lie detector test is going to be insane here in the next, in the next year, even, I mean, they're going to be able to understand if you're lying like that, you just hooked up to one machine and you're done. I don't like that. No, it's crazy.

Freddy Cocek41:26 - 43:07

That's why, you know, I don't, I don't mean to sound like a, like an old person, but like, I feel like that's at some, like, where's the breaking point? Like, or is there a breaking point between, you know, what's what, what's allowable for humanity? Or are you, are you, are you crossing a threshold or are you getting off into something else at some point by, having, uh, technology and, and mechanisms and capability to, to, you know, read people's thoughts, like, like your, your, you know, your free, you know, your, your, your mind and your freedom of thought and free will. That's like, in my opinion, that's like the last, it's like the last vestige of freedom that people have, because No one can, you know, if, if someone can't read your mind, they can't hear, you know, what you're thinking, they can't see what you're thinking. But if a technology has been developed or is being developed, or if it exists that can do that, then, you know, like what's left after that? I don't know. It's like, that's, uh, that's wild to me, but, um, Like you say, I mean, obviously, some level of technology and capability exists to transform, you know, however, the mind or the brain, whatever the, if it's electrical impulses that create the, you know, the pattern or the heat maps. And I don't know, man, like that blows my mind. I'm not that smart. I'm really not.

Adam Kremer43:08 - 43:41

I don't know if any of it is good or bad. I think it's tough to say it, like to slap a label on it as this is good, this is bad, like just putting a binary thing on it. I think it's definitely on how it's going to be used because I can see it going wildly good on like, OK, we're interrogating terrorists and we're trying to figure out what the right answers are versus something that's like the complete opposite where terrorists are now using it on our people to figure out where we're at. So, yeah, I think it all depends on the use case, which either way, I think If the technology is out there, everybody's going to have it. So I think we're going to see a mix of both.

Freddy Cocek43:41 - 44:36

Yeah. Yeah, it it can definitely go both both ways. And it all depends on on, you know, the hands that it's in or, you know, who who has access to it and you know, what what what's it going to be used for? It can be used for, you know, beneficial purposes or it could be used for something, you know. Not so beneficial, but yeah. Guess we'll just see how all that goes. All right, last question. I want to see if I can get your perspective on what do you think about the significance of parenting and leadership for young people, which is as we've talked about this a little bit, I guess, but the significance of parenting and leadership for young people and upcoming generations to help them prepare for their transition into adulthood and into the workforce.

Adam Kremer44:38 - 46:12

Yeah, I think that one, that was tough. I mean, I, I'm not a parent currently, so that one's a little, a little different for me. I would say my experience with it is like the, the only reason that I got to the point I am at personally, I believe at least is the adversity that came with the, almost the lack of parenting. Um, it wasn't through like, okay, the parents are like, yeah, entrepreneurship is the best. That's the way that you should go. Like anything like that. It was more so forced to independence early. I'm out there working. If I want anything in life, I'm going to have to go out there and work in order to get it. So, which not that it's a bad way to do it. I think it was a great, I'm blessed to have that upbringing rather than just being fed anything that I want and just have a, have a daddy's credit card. Um, so I think giving that little bit of adversity or giving that independence early to kids is super important. Um, but once they have like that, that free will and those habits that are built up, It's almost the community that they need to get engulfed in. Um, much like apex did, it was a huge, huge help for me where I had that community go into that's able to give me those resources. Um, my parents didn't come from businesses. They didn't come from entrepreneurship. It was, they were, I think the first ones to go to college in their family. And that's just kind of the route that they took and they didn't push it on me cause they didn't really give a shit. So it was more, Yeah, go out, do what you want, and then having that community to actually lead and give you those resources that you need, I think is the most crucial part.

Freddy Cocek46:12 - 49:17

Yeah, absolutely. I think I'm going to constantly, a lot of times, I'm going to like revert back to my thoughts and feelings about your character individually. Because I, like I said earlier, I see for where you're at at your age, where you're at in life, and your knowledge and your understanding of things and your capability, I see some good shit like coming for you in the future. I think you're in the right spot, man. And for you to have, you said you didn't have You know, you didn't have family and people, you know, prompting you, you know, you didn't have you, you weren't spoon fed, but you didn't have people, you know, prompting you and pushing you in a, in a particular direction. But it's, in my opinion, on some level, it's a, it's, it's kind of a character thing that you, you made the conscious decisions and choices to. direct yourself in the direction that you went or that you have gone, you know, with, with yourself personally and, you know, in a, in a work and career sense. Um, and I think that's, that's huge because unfortunately for, for some, not, not everyone, not everybody's got it. You know what I mean? That's, that's just, that's, that's just like a, that's just a hard truth, I think. Um, you know, the, the, uh, the, the willingness and the want to aspire to greater and to do, you know, do bigger and greater things, you know, for oneself on a, on a career level and, and certain people, once they, once they get to a certain point or position in their, in their career, in their life, it goes from, you know, yeah, I want to, you know, I want to hustle and grind. I'm going to, you know, bust my ass and work hard. And, and, you know, I want to, I want to make a lot of money and dah, dah, dah, dah. But you know, like, like I've heard, I've heard Ryan say, I've heard a lot of people, you know, say it, you know, it's, it's not about the money. And at some point it, it, it, it becomes where it's not about the money. It's the, the, the freedom of opportunities that, that, uh, that, that, that comes with that, or that you can, can create for yourself by, you know, following that path or choosing that path. And the, uh, the, the fact that you, uh, you're, you've chosen that for yourself and you are where you are now. I think that's, I think that's awesome. So, but if you didn't, even though you, you know, you say you didn't have someone directing you that way, or you weren't guided down that path, you still chose that path. So that's, that's, uh, That's, that's awesome. That's, that's good. That's, uh, I'm stoked, man. You're, you're my kid's age. Literally like my kid's 22. You say you're 23. I'm like, that's good. That's, uh, um, that's awesome.

Adam Kremer49:17 - 50:26

Yeah. I know you, you say that not everybody's got it. I think everybody does have it. It's they don't want it. I would say that they don't, they don't have that desire enough to go get it. Cause there's, I mean, even just like in door knocking, we hire, tons of people that come in and it's like, dude, you are gifted. Like you can talk to people, you have the charisma, you can close, like you got everything that you need to take this and start making five to 10,000 a week. But they don't care to go out like they're, they have a comfort of knowing that they're going to be all right, no matter what, they don't have to go out and hustle. They don't have to work more than four hours a week, they're fine with taking home 2,500 a week, because that's enough for them to survive. They don't have to go out and really do above and beyond that. So yeah, I would say it's more of a desire thing that I think we can all do it. I mean, there's a lot of times that I look at people in Apex, it's like, well, he's doing eight figures and beyond. If he can do it, I can do it. Versus a lot of people will look at it as he's doing eight figures and beyond, well, he must be lucky. Like there's, there's no way I'd ever be able to do that. So I think it just boils down to the desire for people to do it rather than actually having it, having it in them.

Freddy Cocek50:26 - 51:27

Yeah. No, you're, I can get on board with that. The, the, having the desire and the drive, it's, that's not, not everybody's got that part of it, I guess. Yeah, exactly. You know, most, most people have the, the, uh, have it within them, you know, to, to, um, I guess have the opportunity or be able to pursue opportunities, but. having the drive and desire to really want to make it happen. And, you know, by pretty much any means necessary, you know, yeah, no, not that most people don't have that. But that's, that's why there's a, that's why the margin of people that, that, that do that is very narrow. And the remainder of society that you know, might have some of the characteristics or traits, but not all of it. That's, that's what makes up, you know, the, the bigger portion of the, the, this much instead of the, and this much. Yeah. So congratulations for being in that little narrow margin.

Adam Kremer51:27 - 51:27

Yeah.

Freddy Cocek51:27 - 55:18

It's, it's, uh, it's been a, uh, I'm not gonna say it's been a hard road. It's been a, uh, uh, It's been a good, a good, uh, a good learning and living lesson over the, over the years and, uh, still learning every day though. So it's, uh, it's good. I think everybody should, should, and not everybody will, but I, I would like to see everybody, you know, want, want the same things, maybe not, not, not want the same things that, that I do or that you do, but to want to, earn those things for themselves and be willing to push the envelope and go by pretty much any means necessary and then not gravitate to neutral or follow the path of least resistance. mediocrity you know the following the path of least resistance that's going to lead you to uh you know mediocrity or or you know put you in a place of complacency and complacency lends to you know mediocrity and and that's not uh that's not where it's not where I'm looking to be and that's not where I've wanted to be. And not just in a, in a, a material sense. I've really, uh, over the last several, well, more than the last, more than the last few months, it's been over the last couple, three years or whatever. I've kind of me personally, I feel like I've developed a, a better, uh, or maybe a bigger sense of, wanting to do something that's, that's bigger than, you know, the hustle and making money. I mean, yeah, that's cool. I mean, yeah, that, you know, having cool stuff and, and all that shit is great, but, um, get to a point where you realize that your, your, your, your talents and your abilities and your, your willingness to utilize that stuff, uh, you know, utilize those characteristics and those gifts to, to, uh, to help other people. Um, in different manners and different capacities, that's, that's, uh, that's a different level of shit. It's a good level of shit. I like it. I'm digging it. So impacts versus income. Yeah. No, like this, the, you know, the, the, the whole, uh, the, the big one, one of my big driving forces behind wanting to, to, uh, to start doing the podcast, it's, you know, Yeah, over time, I will, you know, share my stories and my information and, but the bigger, to me, the bigger premise of it is to give other people, you know, opportunities to share their information and in hopes that that will, the exchange will help them and also help me, but then the more people that take interest in it and, and, you know, can take something positive away from whether it's something you have to share or the next guest or the next guest, um, you know, exchanging information or, or, you know, giving out free information and free data, you know, that, that, it's helpful to people. But if you sit on that or if you sit on your skills and talents and don't share that with other people, then I guess maybe you're not wrong for it. But on some level, I think there's a greater purpose for everybody to share what they can to kind of help other people out.

Adam Kremer55:18 - 55:37

Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm in the same boat. I think I would say it's definitely compelled to do a lot bigger things than just make myself money. I think I could do that in silence, but being a little louder and be able to change other people's lives, it's a lot more fulfilling than just going out and making a shit ton of money.

Freddy Cocek55:37 - 56:50

Yeah. What'd you say? Impact over income? Impact, not income? Yeah. That's a good perspective. That's a good way to look at things. Hell yeah. money and material wealth and all that stuff, that's out there. You've got an eye for opportunity. You can see that it's everywhere in all different capacities. So the opportunity to be able to make money, to pay bills or to exist and have cool shit and accumulate wealth or what have you, that's, that's always going to be there, you know, where pretty much anybody can do that, but not everybody can make the conscious choice to want to do something out of their, you know, out of their, their own, out of their own heart or their own soul, that's going to be beneficial to others. So that's, uh, that's huge. Yeah. A thousand percent kudos. So anything else? Good.

Adam Kremer56:51 - 56:56

I got, uh, I mean, unless you got more questions, I don't have anything, anything specific.

Freddy Cocek56:56 - 57:07

That's, that's the, that's the bulk of it. That's, uh, I think we'll, uh, we're, we'll, if we, if we, if we in there, I think we're ending on a good, in a good spot and on a good note.

Adam Kremer57:07 - 57:09

Yeah. Hell yeah.

Freddy Cocek57:09 - 57:35

I appreciate your time. I've enjoyed it. And, uh, I, uh, Congratulations on being the first guest. Like I said, hopefully we can look back at this months or maybe even years from now and and laugh about it and go, damn, that was that was kind of awkward. Started out to cut the first episode and man, Freddy didn't have his shit together.

Adam Kremer57:35 - 57:46

Yeah, maybe we maybe episode 100. We redo it. Yeah, there you go. And go through. I think there'll be a lot that that changed me. It would be at that. A couple of year mark where AI is taking over.

Freddy Cocek57:46 - 58:06

I can't do it, man. I can't do it. I'm scared. It's Pandora's box. I'm telling you. No, man, I appreciate your time. I enjoyed it. And we'll catch up with you again soon. Hopefully, I don't know if I'll see you next month, October.

Adam Kremer58:06 - 58:11

Yeah, yeah, that'll be in shit. That's almost like two weeks from now. I don't have. Wow.

Freddy Cocek58:11 - 58:12

Yeah, it is.

Adam Kremer58:13 - 58:24

I got a place to stay, I've not figured out travel yet, because it's up in the air whether I'm going to be flying or driving, but yeah, I'll definitely be down there. Once I get down there, we should go shoot some shit.

Freddy Cocek58:24 - 59:00

Yeah, I'm actually... I'm going to be carrying, well, I'm probably going to drive up because whenever things finish up, wrap up on Friday, uh, when I leave Dallas, uh, I've got a, uh, hunt lease down in like Fredericksburg area, which is probably probably about four or five hour drive from Dallas. So when I leave, I'll probably come to Dallas with a truck full of guns and shit, and then leave there and drive down to, uh, drive down to Fredericksburg for the weekend and, and, uh, go to the hunt lease and, and make a weekend out of it, so.

Adam Kremer59:00 - 59:03

Yeah, is that that little property you had the stand and the feeders and stuff at?

Freddy Cocek59:03 - 59:40

No, this is actually a different place. I've got I've got a piece of property that I bought that I've been working on, but then this the place in Fredericksburg area, it's just it's leased. It's it's actually a working ranch in the hill country, and I've got some friends that are they've been on there the last few years. They just they lease. They lease from the landowners like during the hunting season. So we'll go down there and make a weekend out of it and have fun. Oh, yeah. It's that time of year in Texas for hunting season.

Adam Kremer59:40 - 59:57

Yeah, I mean, we were just slaughtering. I mean, I was going to schedule this for Saturday, but we were out slaughtering ducks all day. So yeah, we got, I literally positioned the Airbnb on a lake next to public hunting where there's a slew out on that too. So we got, we're taking sales reps out for their first time ever shooting shotguns and shooting ducks.

Freddy Cocek59:57 - 01:00:02

And when you come to, when you come to Dallas, you're talking about, this has been, this is last Saturday.

Adam Kremer01:00:02 - 01:00:12

And then this weekend we're doing the same thing. We just got our sales team out shooting ARs, nine mils in the backyard and introduce them to that hillbilly shit. Fuck yeah.

Freddy Cocek01:00:15 - 01:00:25

Good deal. I'll let you get back to your stuff, man. I appreciate your time, Bob. We'll, uh, we'll catch up soon. If I don't, uh, I don't talk to you before Dallas, then I'll see you there. Yeah.

Adam Kremer01:00:25 - 01:00:28

Hell yeah. I look forward to it. I appreciate having me on. Okay. Absolutely.

Freddy Cocek01:00:28 - 01:00:34

Have a good one. You too. We'll see you.

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