Southern Charm Finale & Reunion CAROLINA CREEPER

We cover the finale of Southern Charm!

Transcript

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Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of All Rilda Podcast. This is Chris.

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And this is Angela, and we are back.

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Yep.

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Um, you know, life is just lifing. I don't know.

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Life is lifing, yeah.

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So we're here to just wrap up Southern Charm.

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Yes.

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Um, overall thoughts.

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It was, it just got a little bit tiring it of uh of just the Craig and Austin of it all and sprinkling in Sally, you know.

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Yeah.

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It just I don't know. I just got sick and tired of it after so long. It's like it just to me, it reminded me a lot of like like uh watching like Mormon Wives, and it's just you know, Dakota versus um versus Taylor, you know what I mean? It's just like it's just over and over, that's all it is. So it's just yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't a bad season. It's just I I was exhausted of the same shit and Austin sucks.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yes, yes, yes. I I agree to an extent. I think it's not like Craig is some oh I agree.

SPEAKER_02 1:31

I agree. Um, but for the most part in this season, it's like it it from the beginning, it's like it's like dude, Craig's single. Like, shut the fuck up, leave him alone. You know what I mean? Let him let him live, you know, whatever. If he has a problem, let him, you know, deal with it, you know, whatever, and that's it, plain and simple.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Okay, so we start the episode, we are concluding the Mexico trip, and uh, so we're at that dinner, still at the sweat lodge place.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Oh, that just seems so uncomfortable.

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Everyone's kind of talking about how it was a positive experience for their moods and whatever, and you know, things are fine, and then of course Shep has to bring up Austin's birthday dinner.

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Of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

And idiot. They just talk about or Austin's saying Craig they grew apart during his relationship with Paige. And I don't know, Craig just he's like, he doesn't get it. He's like, I don't think anything's changed.

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As far as what again?

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They're really their friendship or the dyn the dynamics.

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Oh, it totally has. My goodness. It's just they're not even friends anymore. And I don't know if they just do this purposely just to be like this on camera, and then they're because they have a bar or a restaurant or whatever, like together. Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's like personally, if it was someone that I thought was a total asshole, you know, to me, I wouldn't want to start a business with him. So there has to be something.

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Craig said he had a blast the day before, which was weird because that was like the day where obviously he like said all the stuff to Sally and blah blah blah.

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Well, he's not wrong. Well, because it was it was a good day, it's just that obviously it ended horribly.

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Well, yeah. And Rodrigo's the one to, you know, say, so what happened last night to Craig? And he just says, you know, I'm triggered. Sally was all uh she's been in my business. He sees Sally as kind of a roadblock for him and Charlie, right?

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Absolutely. I really feel that if Sally wasn't such a fucking pick me, I think they would be together to this day.

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Yeah.

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Um, not Sally, but I'm talking about Charlie.

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I don't know. Um so anyway, uh Sally tells Craig that she was sad and that he should have apologized, and then um Craig he's he just you know, he does this thing like, Oh, I'm sorry, if I could take it back, I would.

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It's not he's not wrong, but of course, you know, now at this point, because you can't do anything about what you did. You know, all you gotta do is just like apologize at that point.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Right. But I mean that's pretty much it. Sally just kind of lets it go, and even Sally and Charlie even like rode back in the van with them, even though they were like she let it go so quick.

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Like it's like where you know, like it where was all this, you know, it just is crazy.

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So they're back in Charleston and Charlie talks to her mom on the phone. It was kind of weird. Like, I feel like the mom was really trying to like steer her towards Craig. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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She's probably a fan of the show and is like, go for Craig.

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Guaranteed. But then it's like, I'm sorry. The dynamic, the parental dynamic for you know, parents to uh their daughters is that you got to marry a rich man. That's what I'm getting off of watching this show for all this time.

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So I guess we find out Craig's invited her as his date to Patricia's Carolina Day party, and she declined, saying she was going with a different friend. So Craig brought Corey.

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God, I thought we were like over and done with this dude. Corey's so lame, he is super lame.

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Um so we go to the party. It's like the finale party, you know?

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Of course, yeah, gotta have one.

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And Charlie is really trying to dodge Craig, right?

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It's so funny. It's like you can't do that all night. You know, it's like just gotta face it head on.

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It's funny because but then it turns into that thing, like, well, he hasn't came up to me, and he's like, well, she hasn't came up. You know what I mean? And it just becomes like a thing.

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But which is so dumb because it's like, at what point can he do that if you're fucking running away from any room that he enters, you know, or whatever. It's just it was silly.

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So then Charlie and Craig, sorry, Sally and Craig talk, right?

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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And Craig kind of tells her how did he say it? I don't even know how he said it, but it's just he pretty much like told her, Well, we talked every night for hours and da-da-da. And Sally is like, What? That's news to me. Like, it's just so lame. I'm sorry.

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It is. It's like Sally, like, I'm sorry if every dude, like, is just you know, they just go go-goo-goggo over you, you know. Like, sorry that's the case. Sorry, he bruised your ego. Like, you know what I mean? Like, not every dude wants you. So sorry, you know what I mean, but that's the case, and quite honestly, like, this is the reason why she's being so extra, you know. A, she's already that type of person, but B, it's like on overdrive because of that.

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Is she trying to paint it like, well, Charlie should she didn't disclose that to me? Why would she want to? Like, you would have this reaction.

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Of course.

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And obviously, Craig is just, you know, he's being rejected, so he's willing to be like, We were supposed to go to France. We were supposed to, we would FaceTime all the time.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Oh, yeah, we had future plans. Yeah. Yeah.

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So finally, Craig and Charlie talk and she pretty much friend zones him. Like, she didn't like what she saw in Mexico, so I see us basically as friends now.

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What do you what are your thoughts on that?

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She she just got the ick. It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Do you think it's um it's fair to have the ick off of just one bad uh incident? I'm just I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

Yeah, but some people wouldn't want to be with a guy that gets that wasted and talks shit to women understood and cusses at them.

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Understood. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Every it's everyone, no, yeah, like so it's her prerogative, it's her choice, and that shouldn't be held against her.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Yeah.

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But um uh and then he says something to her that was kind of annoying. He's like, Well, I would have picked you over my ex. Like, why even say that? How stupid.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Um, I don't know. I just feel I felt that that said a lot, you know. I don't know if it was intentional.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

I don't even think that's real, and I that's not even an option. That's just something he's saying to her to like make her feel bad.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Well, yeah, if he if there was a choice, that's I don't know, maybe so.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

There's no way. Okay, so uh then Sally goes and runs to the group and tells them about how by the way, Leva, just get off the show.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

I agree, dude. Like, just stay on Southern Southern Hospitality, it'll be fine. You know, you being on there, you could be the the the Lisa Vanderpump of that show. That's fine. Just like stay I agree, stay there on that show. Because on what show? On hospitality? Yeah, we don't need her really there either. Well, she needs to be there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

We do not need to be there. We didn't need Lisa Vanderpump either, but after so long. Anyway, I'm there for the the drama between the people, not the ins and outs of the business Republic. I don't care. Okay, so she tells the group about how close Charlie and Craig actually were. And um yeah, Molly's even like it's just a blow to her ego, Sally's ego, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Oh yeah. When she said that, I was like, that's why I said what I said earlier, you know, because it's like, yeah, that's uh that was like ripped out right out of my brain, you know?

SPEAKER_00 10:36

Yeah.

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Just pick me up, pick me, pick me activities. My goodness.

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But it's like Charlie or sorry, Sally. Um it's just even if she's like, well, I had feelings for him, which she says, right? Yes. It's very confusing because you just lit up once Austin became single, right? Of course. You're pursuing that, and you said all along you were really going for Austin. Yep. So what are you doing right now? Why are you getting emotional?

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I know it's so crazy because it's like, and it's it's unfair because it's like, oh, well, because I'm closer to being the main, you know, the main character of this show, um, that I should have dibs on all the eligible bachelors. You know what I mean? Fuck off. Like it's just so it's so dumb.

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So then Austin and Craig talk, and hated this. Craig's telling him that he's like bummed about Charlie and um kind of just blaming Sally completely for it.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

I'm telling you right now, it's not a complete thing, but she holds like I'd say 80% fault of that thing because she was just so horrid uh that whole fucking season.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

I mean, Craig has to we know Craig can be mean. Of course. Um what was it, that reunion where someone asked, like, are you who's afraid of Craig? And like pretty much every single person that says something about a person.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Well, yeah, and I really feel like that season was not a good look for him.

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You know, but the thing shows how he is, so we're not gonna sit here and act like Craig is some victim or agreed. Hell no.

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Oh, definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Craig's an asshole, and he's uh like a liar, like he lies.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Understood. We've seen it for this. This season for the most part, obviously, with the exception of that meltdown in Mexico, you know, for the most part, like this was his season, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Understood, but I'm saying I don't critique people season by season. We've I've been watching this guy for however many seasons there are. He's he's a per he's who he is.

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So I have to Were you gonna call him a pervert?

SPEAKER_00 13:02

No. Oh, what were you gonna say?

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Oh, person. I was like, what?

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Jesus. Okay, so anyway, let's just move on. Uh yeah, Austin's saying you say mean and nasty things that you can't take back, and then Craig's like, Do I get angry? Yes, and I'm working on it, trying not to be so reactive, and then Austin just thinks Craig doesn't take accountability, and then it just but the thing is that he doesn't take not one ounce of uh accountability.

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I'm sorry, but you know, in the his birthday dinner to tell your former best friend or current, I don't know, or whatever, that there's any ounce of hate, fuck you. Like you can go, you uh like I that to me, that was so triggering.

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I'm just trying to get you to see they're both that Austin sucks ass.

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Yeah, so does Craig, not as much as Austin, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

Well, even if it's not as much, we're not gonna be glorifying someone.

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I get it. And definitely silly, like definitely I'm not, but I'm just saying he does have a problem.

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He's like a I'm sorry, but he's that kind of guy.

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Understood. But then what is Austin? Let's be real.

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I'm saying he's no better, but I'm not gonna sit here and be like poor Craig, like hell no.

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Like Austin, I'm sorry, but Austin, it was just this all stemmed from jealousy, personally. It's the truth, you know. What Craig said about Austin, about him having FOMO, I don't give a fuck what is said in the reunion, you know, because obviously they touch on that, and it's like, oh, well, does everyone think anyone think that he has FOMO? No one raised their hand, but it's the truth. You know, you know damn well he wanted to be all up in you know in the mix and he wanted to do all the single stuff, but he couldn't because it was like a big thing.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Two things can be true, he could be jealous. Craig can lack taking accountability when he messes up. But even then, but no, when he messes up, no, he's more his his sentiment is more like we all have bad days. Like it's just he doesn't fully just take accountability. Do I think he's a narcissist?

SPEAKER_02 15:17

No, yeah, definitely not. There's a big difference between him and Jack.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Austin storms out, Sally follows him, just being thirsty, of course. And he's like going, they're going somewhere after, like, after party or something.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

I thought it was like a bar or something like that. Yeah.

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And uh he's like, I think you're wonderful, but I'm not in a headspace to do anything with anyone. And then she's just standing there, like, what did she say?

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She's like, if you were in that headspace, it's like, girl, what are you doing? It's like, remember, she was like, if you were in that headspace, like, would you pick me? You know, whatever.

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I was like, I just so bad.

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It was so I had so much secondhand embarrassment. It was it's like, girl, like what the hell happened to your self-esteem? What happened to it?

SPEAKER_00 16:18

Wait, hold on. Did I I totally missed Charlie being called out about the Sally stuff? With Leva and everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Uh-huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

That was that was stupid.

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That's it.

SPEAKER_00 16:34

That was stupid.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

It's like, thanks for bringing it, bringing it into the I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Like, I don't think Charlie is sneaky sneaky. I think she is just a single woman who could date whoever the hell she could date four dudes. She could date, she's not in a relationship with anyone.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

Um, she tried it with Craig, it just didn't work. He's maybe it's just, you know, it's just she doesn't have to like Craig. No, you're right. And I don't think you have to disclose every single phone call you make to your friend. That's weird.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

Yeah, and it's just like if if she didn't act like such a fool this whole season, guess what? Your best friend Charlie would have shared every fucking detail. Every detail. You know, oh my god, Craig's so cute. Oh my god, we kissed for the first time. Oh my god, like all these different things would have been shared by him.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Or Sally would have been jealous and probably passive aggressive about it.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

I'm just saying, I I would say if if the if it was the exact opposite where she had no interest in Craig, I would say, yeah, Charlie would have shared every detail of the whole relationship.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Maybe I d I don't, but I see I think Charlie is just sweet, she's kind of a people pleaser. She wears her emotions on her face. I'm the same way. Um like that would be me. If I was ever on a show, I would be getting like the meme or the you know what I mean? Yeah, where I'm making like weird faces. Um but I just especially Leva speaking of like shut up, and then um I love how she feels like like she can make she can put in her two cents. Also, Sally, shut up. Like you you got to be like told you so, right? Yep, she got to do that. So why are you like shut up? Like Charlie already said she's not interested in Craig anymore. So why even be like, how could you have not told me I had feelings? Like I texted you that. Like, what did she text? Like, oh, I I hate myself for having feelings for him, or she said something like that.

SPEAKER_02 18:51

Okay, it's just so dumb. It's like, um, but even the I told you so moment really isn't if anything, Vanita had a I told you so because you know, Craig was the one to be like, um, sorry, hate to break it to you, but you're just a friend. You know, I'm not interested to you, you know what I mean? That is I told you so. Um, this one, she left him, so she's the one that's true, that friend zoned him. You can't you can't say, told ya, you know, or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

Only maybe after the caught the van thing. She could have been like, I told you he's crazy or something, whatever. Do you want to touch a little bit on the reunion? Just the main parts.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Yeah, um, I'm just gonna put the main part out there, and that is Austin is awful.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

If you met him in public, would you be nice? Yeah, would you shake his hand?

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Yeah. I would. You know, but I would shake, I would I would take a picture with uh with Tamara if I met her.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Yeah, and you know, by the way, we have lots of pictures with Jax.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Yeah, you know, Jack, well, no, Jax can fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Like I would No, I'm saying we already we knew he was a a dick and we still took pictures with him, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Oh no, no, yeah, that but that we had no clue what was going on at that point. Because remember, once we found once we found out about that, that was it. Yeah, uh, but anyways, um, but yeah, no, no, no. He no, him, he would be like, no, you can fuck off. Like, fuck off, Jax. Um, well, punk ass bitch. No, um uh let's see, who else? Like, I I would be like if I saw Tamara, I would, you know, I would shake her hand and I would I would want to take a picture with her. Austin, I would like to take a picture with you.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

It was just a quick passing question. Aiden anyway, what about that? Would you yeah, I would say hi to anyone, probably. See, there you go. Okay, so I want to touch on this. It really annoys me because I really do not care for Sally, if I'm being honest. Yes. But man oh man, oh yeah, this was messed up. Like Austin literally calling her a bar rat, a high body count, or whatever. Um, basically saying like she's been with Paul, Dick, and Harry, and you know what I mean? Like Shep twice, as we learn and watch what crap watch what happens type taping that we went to at BravoCon. Um he's basically saying, like, you're not the kind of girl to take home to mom and dad.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

I I thought that was so humiliating, in my opinion, and the simple fact that he didn't want to admit that they slept together or whatever, because it's like we're not dumb, we're not stupid. Okay, so stop insulting our intelligence. So whatever, that is what it is, and then to go off and then do that to her, that's not cool. It's like fuck off, bro.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Like, you know, she posted something, it was funny. Did you see it?

SPEAKER_02 21:50

Oh, yes, I did see that.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Actually, I like that she can um use what all the crap like she makes fun of herself or. What people call her.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

It was kind of gross though, if you think about it.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

She was she washed her hands. I know, right? She probably just sat at the bar like a bar rat.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Hot dog, please.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Or can I get some peanuts?

SPEAKER_02 22:14

I used to be a bar rat. I did see that. Uh how do you feel? Used to be.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

I'm not a bar rat.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Jeez. I'm just kidding. Um, but you know what I mean? It's just like I I just felt like it was just so humiliating. It was like, it's like, oh, so you're apparently above her, Austin. That's what you're trying to say. That, you know, yeah, we can do it in secret, but I'm not gonna admit it. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

That's messed up. And if she's still like, have some self-respect, Sally. After that, yes. Maybe I can start fresh next season with you. I'm willing to try, but right this season, you were an extreme pick me.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Oh, yeah. Um, and but I do gotta admit her stock went up a little bit when I saw that that post. I was like, okay, I'm down for that. And then plus, you know, like I did they it did garner some sympathy with me about uh uh with her by just the simple fact that Austin is a fucking asshole.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

And also, Sally, like my god, you have an amazing job. Yes, you're beautiful, like go find a freaking normal dude with a good job or something. Yeah, it's not it shouldn't be that hard for Sally. This speaks on how Sally is and her picker is definitely bad.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Yeah, yeah, no, agreed. And it's just like, but that's that's the problem, is that because you know, this normal dude that she could potentially find is not on camera, that's why it's just not a big deal for her. That's why she is so single because she wants it to be someone that's like a Craig or like an Austin, you know, where they have good money and they're famous. And I mean, they're like decent looking, you know what I mean? Like they're not horrid, you know, they're not ugly. Um, you know, it's but that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Sorry, I'm thinking about the like, oh, I want Austin's body but or face or whatever to look like Austin but have or sorry, Craig, but have Austin's personality. Yeah. And they're like, we're both offended.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Ouch.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Ooh, yeah. But uh But that was pretty much it.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Was there anything else from the re part one of the reunion?

SPEAKER_02 24:31

That was the main thing because that that it just triggered the fuck out of me, just watching all that go down between you know what he did to Sally, and then you know, the simple fact of calling a friend in any shred saying I hate you in any way. Yeah, sometimes I hate you. Like, what the fuck? This is not a like some easy fleeting comment. You know what I mean? That holds weight. Like, fuck off, man. That's not cool.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

All right, well, that is it. We just wanted to close out Southern Charm. That's it. We we don't cover reunions really unless they're really good. So that's it. You won't be hearing from us until the next season.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, so I agree. So that is it, Rylers. And yes, I did call you Rylers. Um, anyone that listens.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Stop trying to make fetch happen. Just kidding. We'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

Yeah, hey, so, anyways, they are you guys, you are my Rylers, because we get all riled up, all of us, anyways. Well, we thank you, love you, and Southern Charm. See you later. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Thank you.