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RHOC PREMIERE S20 BOUNCE HOUSE OF PAIN
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We cover the premiere of The Real Housewives of Orange County!
Welcome, welcome, up to All Ralda. With Chris and Angela, covering all the affairs from Vanderpunk to the valley of love is fine and more.
SPEAKER_01We got you all the baby with Chris and Angela. Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of All Ralda Podcast. This is Chris.
SPEAKER_03And this is Angela. And look who's back. Back again. What were you gonna say?
SPEAKER_01All Ralda back.
SPEAKER_03Stupid. Um friend. Yeah, it it was kind of the snowball thing, not here to make excuses like some of our favorite housewives constantly, but you know, just life, life stuff. Um, I got sick.
SPEAKER_01I mean, come on, let's let's just be honest. Like, you know, a good chunk of that was she got sick, you know.
SPEAKER_03We uh snowballed into a couple other things, and then and then uh I'm better, and then we have this like Florida vacation, and it's just so much it is what it is.
SPEAKER_01Like I said, you know, we all get sick, it is what it is, you know, and we're back, you know, back again, you know, and that's it. Plain and simple. We're here to fuck shit up. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Real Housewives of Orange County, um premiere episode kind of on the it was.
SPEAKER_01Um, but here's the thing. It this is setting the tone, in my opinion, to the whole season. I don't have high hopes for this one. You know, um, it did its job, I guess, but it's just it was really lackluster, and it just really shows that the new, the new, the newer uh shows are kind of here to stay and they're here to really entertain. Because let's be honest, if we're talking about comparing uh Rhode Island to Orange County, holy shit, this is literally mid, not even like day and night. This is like like early ass morning where it's like fuck, I don't want to get up to like, you know, this is fucking midnight. That's where it's at.
SPEAKER_03And you know they just were like, well, we have to do this Orange County, it's legacy, it's the longest running housewives franchise.
SPEAKER_01Personally, if it wasn't the 20th season, I think they would be shit out of luck. Um, I don't think it would be on.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Personally, but they want it because it's kind of boring, and especially if Tamra's gonna be doing this, like, well, no, she's still stirring the pot and all that, but I really don't like the seasons where Tamra's like, I'm improving, or you know what I mean, whatever she's doing.
SPEAKER_01It here's the thing, here's the formula. It's always, you know, oh, this is a new Tamara. Oh my god. And it's like it it always starts like this. It's if I'm not mistaken, last season it was the same thing. I gotta look at like episode one.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, but I honestly don't care enough to look into it. Because I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but hey, it's been a while since we've done a premiere episode, so we're not.
SPEAKER_03As is tradition with premiere episodes.
SPEAKER_01Let's do it. If you don't know, here's some little This is me shaking up shaking the shit out of my can, but that's only because it's a Sun Cruiser with no bubbles, and you're supposed to do it.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Here we go. Oh, I just got it all over myself. I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so cheers to the 20th season, and I've been here since the beginning, believe it or not. I'm telling you, like Vicky's back, which you're like, whatever, but Vicki kind of started this off.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_03I got pretty invested in her family, and I remember back I used to live in the OC, and I went to this bar in Huntington Beach called Killarney's, and I remember seeing Brianna there, that's Vicky's daughter, with like a guy, and I was like taking pictures like secretly.
SPEAKER_01You were like whoever was like on vacation with Jax and his uh new girlfriend, like you know, taking pictures, sending it to Britney, sending it to Pride TMZ or something. Is that you back in the day, 20 years ago?
SPEAKER_03And this was like I was pro this was, I'm not joking, like I was 21 when I lived in Huntington Beach. So this was like 30, 39 years ago. Um 19 years. I can't do math. 19 years ago.
SPEAKER_00This is 20 years ago, because it's 19 years ago.
SPEAKER_03Point is Vicky's back. She is who she is, she hates new people, she's a hater, and it just I welcome it.
SPEAKER_01Uh well, you're obviously as this episode trickles down, um, you're gonna hear my my uh thoughts, so let's just continue.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, coming from you know, an amateur, sure.
SPEAKER_01No, it's just coming from a person that's completely not jaded by this woman's acting antics, so that's it. Well, let's go ahead and start. Let's get done.
SPEAKER_03So yesterday I went to the OC and I I had gone for a birthday party, and literally I was down. I was like, I'm gonna go with the quiet woman. I'm gonna go see who I see, maybe, perhaps. And then I looked it up, it closed on Mondays.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. Heartbreaking. I was like, You wouldn't catch anyone on a fucking Monday. Doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03I would have just gone to the quiet woman to be able to report to you guys that I went to the quiet woman.
SPEAKER_01So well, she was very quiet that night.
SPEAKER_03Let's get into this.
SPEAKER_01Let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so they start off the episode, right? They're trying to do this nostalgia thing, and they're trying to like show old scenes of similar situations compared to scenes of this season.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03And I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It was kind of like I was just kind of hoping for just all old shit. Like, I don't care about let's compare, you know, old to new and you know, whatever. It's like, come on.
SPEAKER_03Well, it was kind of that thing like this season on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03So it's just showing us what we they gotta like start it off with luring us in. I don't know if it did that.
SPEAKER_00No, it didn't. It really didn't.
SPEAKER_03Alright, we start the episode in Puerto Vallarta, right? This is where Vicky This is where Vicky lives. She has a condo, and Shannon's there to visit her.
SPEAKER_01Can we like at least start with a little shit talk? It's like she makes it seem like she had a fucking villa, some type of like crazy ass mansion mansion, you know, over there. I didn't know. And it's just like she has a fucking like skyloft.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Like until you have two of those, like I wouldn't sit here and be like, oh.
SPEAKER_01How many times have we seen international house hunters? And it's like, we're like, oh, really? They're getting like an apartment complex in you know, wherever. It's like, okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay, again, until you have one, I don't really think that you have any leg to stand on. So Vicky's trying to get Shannon to move there, and Shannon's like, can I bring my dogs? No. Um Shannon is saying Vicky seems lighter in Mexico. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01It's just she's peacocking, she's kind of like, you know, she's flexing. This is the reason why, at least at first, she's seeming this way. That's it.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um, and they fall.
SPEAKER_01Uh, before she says, Oh, look, there's all the poor people leaving. Uh, see a later losers. Uh, this is coming from the empath.
SPEAKER_03I literally told you. I'm like, she wasn't saying, buy broke bitches. No, she was saying, like, oh, poor people that have to leave vacation. Like, you took that.
SPEAKER_01She says buy poor people.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, poor people leaving vacation. Like, not being in you.
SPEAKER_01I'm telling you right now, it's it is awesome.
SPEAKER_03It is she's not saying those people are broke and they can't afford to be able to do it.
SPEAKER_01It is at face value, for sure. It is not so, but all of the things.
SPEAKER_03Like if I'm saying, oh, poor guy, I'm not saying, oh, he has no money.
SPEAKER_01But I mean, that's if you want to just find any little thing with Vicky, I'm just saying, like, this is just what a lot of people are gonna be thinking and are already thinking.
SPEAKER_03Well, the people that know her, I don't think she whatever. Okay, I know I know I I know it didn't have anything to do with her saying like these people have no money, but again, they fall. Did you think that was funny?
SPEAKER_01Of course it was.
SPEAKER_03Like you laughed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, of course. Okay.
SPEAKER_03But you don't because I've heard people say, like, oh, this is such a bit, like they try to act like the kooky old ladies. Do you think it's a bit?
SPEAKER_01Well, if I can be honest about it, I feel like a lot of Shannon's like uh how can I say it? Clumsiness or whatever, I think it is a bit.
SPEAKER_03I think it's natural.
SPEAKER_01But it could be as well, but it's still a bit.
SPEAKER_03Heather.
SPEAKER_01It's all kook kooky, uh kooky Shannon, you know.
SPEAKER_03Shannon. Heather uh sorry, we're in the OC, I guess, and they're at some kind of like scarf dying place. I guess Heather's big on TikTok, so she saw it. I actually thought it was kind of cool, I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_01I guess for me, I'm really I'm a real big hater on like this is a craft date, you know, or whatever. It's like, oh, this is so fun. No, it's not. Like, I don't know. That's just me. I I maybe I am gonna be a hater today. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It sounds like it. I don't know what's in your flavor of uh Sun Cruiser that looks cool, but uh hater aid.
SPEAKER_01It's like pink haterade. I don't know, something like that.
SPEAKER_03So Gina got engaged to Travis. I was like, okay. Heather's like, oh, your ring, it's beautiful. And then in a confession, of course, snobby ass Heather is like, oh, it look, there's lots of rainbows.
SPEAKER_01Of course. It's like I'm sorry, I would not want if if let's say, you know, I'm kind of pseudo-friends with Heather, you're damn right. I'm not gonna fucking show my ring to Heather. You know, absolutely not, because this is a true, true to life, like actual rich person. And and Gina is the this is like the polar opposite, and so we have super rich and like like semi-affluent, you know, that's the best way to put it, you know, and it's like I would feel embarrassed. It's like I wouldn't want to show her.
SPEAKER_03I love that she admits her ring is fake because Travis didn't know if she would like it.
SPEAKER_01Which that's fucking bullshit because any per any person that loves another person would love any ring they got from that person. Now, of course, that now that you're married, and let's say 15, 20 years later, let's say you are fishing for a new ring for an anniversary, a big anniversary. Now that makes sense. Now you have a say in it because now you you're already married, there's no surprise in it, you know. So that's where you know, but when you first get married, it's like take whatever you fucking get, you ingrate. Like, God, dude. That was just like, I don't know, that's just me.
SPEAKER_03Well, I think she did though. Well, I'm she wasn't complaining.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I I agree, but the thing is, apparently, according to this, it's like he had to get a prototype, you know, just in case or some type of rough draft, just in case she was like, fuck this shit, you know.
SPEAKER_03Tamara shows up, they dye their scarves, and then they sit down to a really lame veggie platter. First thing I noticed, radishes.
SPEAKER_01I really I know okay, I saw that obviously. The first thing I noticed was celery.
SPEAKER_03I hate celery, by the way. Only in soups.
SPEAKER_01Well, even for me, oh I get even for me, it's like I guess soups is like it's okay. But for me, it's like, you know, obviously, if I'm gonna have buffalo wings, and let's say it's both that and carrots, you're damn right I'm eating the carrots first, but then if I'm still hungry, I'm eating those celery.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um not I they want to clear the air with Tamara because she went on Jeff Lewis and I guess talk shit, saying like no one was there for me. And I'm about to blow shit up.
SPEAKER_01Did you notice that uh Heather kept on referring to that as that show?
SPEAKER_03She must not get along with Jeff.
SPEAKER_01Well, Jeff is kind of a fucking asshole. Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_03Have some respect. That's his brand, that's been his brand since 20 years ago as well.
SPEAKER_01I understand. I get that 18 years ago. I get that obviously early bravos. Obviously, listen to it every now and then, but still he's still fucking asshole. Yeah, but then our show is called All Riled Up, and all of a sudden, you know, when we are a certain way, uh our audience flips out too much Jeff's brand.
SPEAKER_03So just leave him be. Anyway, so Tamara says she felt left out at the reunion because we see that all the girls took a selfie and she wasn't part of it.
SPEAKER_01Crying my eyes out. Fuck off. Come on.
SPEAKER_03And she didn't get invited to dinner, but Gretchen did.
SPEAKER_01And ooh, I bet you they all regret that shit now at this point. Like going to dinner with her versus Gretchen? Yes. Oh. Obviously, it's not much of a prize to go to dinner with Tamra versus Gretchen, but still, you know, I bet you they regret that matter.
SPEAKER_03Gretchen, yeah, not a good look. I'm telling you, when I go on the internet, I don't like anything. Like, I don't understand. You probably I think you like a lot of things. You better be careful.
SPEAKER_01No, I I am very careful, you know, because even for me, it's like even where it's something where it's just like um, let's say it's like really like not risque, but it's like it's um questionable. Like, I'll just um you know, there's that little menu button on the corner.
SPEAKER_03What are you looking at that's risque?
SPEAKER_01No, see that's what I'm saying. Obviously, not the word risque, but like something where it's like, okay, risky, and it's like, you know, for it's like that's a no, you know, and I'll like you know, go to the corner and I'll exit or whatever. So that way it's like that gets off of my timeline. Yeah, fuck that. You know, because there's just so many things where it's like, you know, it's like it's what other people that maybe you know liked, and then it's like you don't even follow these people, you know, so it's like it's just kind of comes up, you know. But no, I've I feel like I'm very careful, but it's like, you know, if God forbid there was anything where it's like, you know, like, you know, oh, like anti-gay or you know, anti-you know whatever, it's like, no, fuck that. You know, it's like that's bullshit. And it's like X done, get out of my face, you know. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Personally, well. But it's just like just like Gretchen Joe Allen, not to jump franchises, but Joe Allen and Rula.
SPEAKER_01You know, to be honest with you, I gotta look that up, you know, because I I uh obviously just heard, you know, that she, you know, whatever she liked. I actually kind of want to see what she actually liked. Okay. But um but the thing is is that you know, honestly, you should uh I don't even care if you've been in the business like as a housewife for one season or for fucking 20 seasons. You at this point in our all of our lives, with how long Instagram has been in existence, you should know better. How many times have we seen fucking, you know, like whether it's like uh a Love Island person or a fucking um uh what's it called? A love is blind person like getting, you know, the fucking eck, the the can, you know, because they like some homophobic thing or something like that. It's like what what world are you in? Like what timeline are you in? You know, it's like come on now.
SPEAKER_03I mean, yeah, it's just the whole point is we were talking about them going to dinner with Gretchen.
SPEAKER_01I know, but I'm just saying, obviously, it's just like you brought uh um uh you know Joelan into the mix.
SPEAKER_03But I I feel anyway. Back to the back to the thing. I feel like Heather, I feel like honestly, Heather, it's so easy for her to be like, we invited you. Yeah. Of course. I don't think she did, if I'm being honest.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because everyone was it was anti uh rightfully so, because Tamara was being a fucking asshole. And do I believe that she that she uh involved, you know, like bloggers or whatever? You damn right.
SPEAKER_03I think so too.
SPEAKER_01You damn right, because honestly, I don't give a fuck what Tamra says. She definitely did that, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03So Tamara says that her and Heather's friendship have been has been rocky, and then I mean anyway, she's talking to Heather and Gina, whatever, and then they feel like they're like she's saying blanket statements, so or buck like all of them in one bucket, so she says she takes them out of the bucket or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Well, that was funny when Gina's like, I want to be out of the bucket.
SPEAKER_03They talk about this incident during filming for Ultimate Girls Trip at the Quiet Woman, where it was Tamara and Shannon, and then Tamara started to try to stir the pot, and Tamara ended up saying, like, you're a drunk without a boyfriend, and you don't own a home.
SPEAKER_01Who said that to who?
SPEAKER_03Tamara said that to Shannon.
SPEAKER_01Oh, like that's that's a tired fucking thing. You know what I mean? It's like, is she a 60-year-old woman that's you know trying to, you know, like have a forever partner? Absolutely. And she probably but the way she is, she probably will stay that way, to be honest with you. But it's like, okay, you know, come on, enough with the drunkness. You know, did she have that that issue, you know, that or whatever? Yeah, she paid the fucking price. But guess who looks more like a drunk asshole than the other? Is you Tamara.
SPEAKER_03That's what I'm saying, crossfaded, yeah. Like slurring Cameron I didn't see New Orleans, right? Shannon like that one time. Yeah, New Orleans was. Yes, granted, she got a DUI, she ran into people need to stop saying she ran into a house. She ran into a wall in front of the house.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Still dangerous, still whatever.
SPEAKER_01But can I confirm that you're talking about New Orleans, right? Yes. That's what I'm talking about. She was fucking crossfaded, and it's like, who looks like the drunk asshole? You do, Tamara. Sorry, you know, but you do.
SPEAKER_03So Heather and Gina are like, Tamara, this is a problem for everyone.
SPEAKER_01Um I don't know, but they seem to think Tamara's listening and receiving and which guaranteed this is uh she will be like this for I'll give you, I'll be very generous, and I'll say three episodes. She's gonna get pissed off. There's gonna be she's finally gonna meet up with everyone where we're gonna be in a round table or whatever, we're we're all gonna be facing each other somehow, some way. Shannon's gonna be there, it's gonna be that old, you know, thing, and they're just gonna hash it out, and it's just that's how it's gonna be. And she's gonna be an asshole. That it's just I don't believe it for one fucking second. But here's the thing if she stays like this throughout the whole season, I will eat every damn word that I'm saying, and I will admit that was wrong at the very end, which I know I'm not gonna be.
SPEAKER_03Vicky and Shanna go to Andole's. Vicky says she's kind of a big deal there.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god, it's so pathetic to like be like, oh, yeah, um, kind of a big deal, you know, at this place, you know.
SPEAKER_03You're gonna annoy me.
SPEAKER_01No one gives a fuck about her.
SPEAKER_03I would go to Ondalais to see if I could see Vicky.
SPEAKER_01Besides us, but the thing is is that Mexico is so far away. It's not like it's like in like Irvine or whatever. It's like, oh, like we'll take a special trip to Andalaise and Irvine. Okay, that makes sense. This is fucking Mexico, no one gives a shit about her out there.
SPEAKER_03People go to Puerto Vada, like I get that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will give you that, but no one gives a fucking fuck.
SPEAKER_03Publicists.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so with Britney's old, yeah.
SPEAKER_03She talks about her boyfriend, they've been together for a bit now, and Shannon says she needs to come back to the OC, and I don't know. She said I did she say she's gonna like Gina and Chen? Doesn't she know Gina and Jen already?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, agreed.
SPEAKER_03Whatever.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um I thought I thought I didn't think it was Gina. I thought it was Jen specifically. Oh, well, I I I'm sorry, that's what I'm saying. I thought it was just Jen specifically. But maybe you're not going to be.
SPEAKER_03Did you talk about Tamara? Who reached out to Vicky and was like, I miss you. Like just very strategic, right? But didn't anything to piss off Shannon.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. But didn't we like prior to like this being aired? Like, didn't wasn't it very apparent that uh sh they both were probably during filming. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Before before aired. You know, it wasn't it very apparent that's a very good thing. Oh no, no, agreed.
SPEAKER_03Okay, Shannon says, Do you trust that? And Vicky's just like, I don't want to fight with her anymore. And Vicky says Tamara and her have an agreement not to hurt each other. And because we saw that Tamara was talking shit, and they had to show the video of when Tamara got that like crazy chemical pill, and she looks like dude.
SPEAKER_01Like a fucking goblin. Yeah, like she looked like Swamping. Yeah. Yeah. That was pretty bad.
SPEAKER_03I I guess it's just me. I would definitely not be on the socials.
SPEAKER_01I know. It's like no one wants to see your fucking, like, you know, deformed face. Like, come on. Sorry. I know it's it's harsh, but you know, it's like, come on, like, just heal yourself. That's all good. You know, when the time comes, then talk shit. That's fine. We don't want to see that.
SPEAKER_03Emily and Jen meet for dinner. Emily's skinny now. She tries to order just a bowl of chicken.
SPEAKER_00Dude, she's crazy skinny.
SPEAKER_03Like well, she's now she's a gym addict. She always was. She's on. No, she wasn't. She's on, you know, Ozempic, working out seven days a week.
SPEAKER_01Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_03Probably only eating protein.
SPEAKER_01She's on like Ozempic and like WeGovy or something like that. Like combined.
SPEAKER_03I just don't know. I mean, she's healthy, I guess, but I don't know if it's like a to me, like, you go to the gym seven days a week, you're probably not eating much besides like you know what I mean? Egg whites. I just don't know if it's like a good example for your daughter. Like being like the most important thing. Like, you know what I mean? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Let's not forget, not only her daughter, but what about her son? Her son has a episode. The son that has an eating disorder. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yes. You know, when you want your son to have, you know, I forgot what you uh last season, what she was trying to give him, and she was all oh, like in and out, right? You know, or whatever. And it's just like, oh something like that. And it's just like, you know, you don't, you know, you're trying to get your son to or you know, eat junk food or anything he can fucking eat. And it's just like you're just gonna have like feathers and a cloud of dust. You know what I mean? It's like dirt and water, you know, that's it.
SPEAKER_03I know. Jen talks about her son who went a hundred who got pulled over going 105 miles per hour.
SPEAKER_01That's fucking crazy. And the fat the simple fact that when she was talking with him, he's like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Like Yeah, and it's like, oh, my in and out, it's gonna $700, it's gonna be well, that's later, but actually, to be honest with you, I'm surprised he didn't get fucking jail time. He should have.
SPEAKER_01Because the thing is is that after a certain like mile per hour, 35 miles per hour an hour over. It's I would imagine reckless driving. It's like crazy. Like that's crazy, but that's fucking rich.
SPEAKER_03You get you get a blowout tire, you're you're rolling.
SPEAKER_01It's fucking toast.
SPEAKER_03And you could kill someone else, you can kill like a family on their way to Disney. Like, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yep. Mm-hmm. Agreed.
SPEAKER_03I I'm pissed. Like, and I don't think Jenny.
SPEAKER_01This is rich privilege.
SPEAKER_03And Jen just posted that I don't know if it's the same son or some another, they have like so many kids.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That one of them set a fire.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that was isn't that the one in uh yeah, uh what's the name? That one that fainted.
SPEAKER_03Um he's in the military, it's not him.
SPEAKER_01But I thought it was before it was a minor.
SPEAKER_03Fuck. It was a minor kid.
SPEAKER_01I did hear about that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So to that, I say, Jen, what what are you and Ryan doing?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But come on, can we on can we honestly think uh or you know, can we truly believe that Ryan would be a legitimate either a father or be a stepfather? Come on.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. Who's to say? Emily says she hasn't talked to Tamara since Bravo Con, and even then it wasn't good. Do we see Tamara? No, huh?
SPEAKER_01Not even where Tamara and Emily were in the same panel that we saw for what uh Watch What Happens live in Vegas. We went to two of those shows and they were both on the same the same panel. Remember?
SPEAKER_02I remember Emily.
SPEAKER_01And they were they were sem they were semi-friendly too uh to each other. They were they actually fuck it, they were friendly to each other.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, so they were there just putting it on for the audience.
SPEAKER_01I guess so, but um, I guess now you know the funny thing is now her saying that and us physically being there and witnessing this, like I can see her kind of I guess in a way confusion because they actually were pretty good because obviously the audience when they did the you know, like those those kind of uh those questions that kind of you know kind of spice things up, you know, obviously everyone was talking shit about Tamara and Emily was nice about it, you know.
SPEAKER_03So they talk about Heather and her friendship with Tamara. They basically said that Heather was leading the charge against Tamara, and then she turns around and is checking on her, and so basically Jen is saying she's two-faced.
SPEAKER_01Do you believe that for one second that Heather started the charge? Well you thought so. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Heather's so fake. What are you talking about? Tamara was a nightmare last year last season, and I could see Heather being like, she's ridiculous. I could see Heather being a toothpace uh toothpaste.
SPEAKER_01Starting the charge or leading the charge.
SPEAKER_03Okay, that see, that's just semantics. Like, even if she was just part of it, that's what they're saying.
SPEAKER_01I just felt like she was a scapegoat.
SPEAKER_03I I don't think so because Heather didn't even deny it.
SPEAKER_01That's true. Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_03So Tamara uh and her daughter, the daughter's not going to music school because she didn't want to move. I think because she has a boyfriend, and I think that she just didn't want to leave like where the boyfriend lives.
SPEAKER_01That's a good theory because let's be honest with uh with uh all this. Even if she like the LA, a lot of people don't realize how close LA and OC are, you know, to be honest with you. Like it's actually pretty close by, you know, as far as the gap between Okay, you're talking we're talking traffic here though. 405 I'll give you that, yeah.
SPEAKER_03But I think I just think it just it annoyed me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like, come on. Anyway.
SPEAKER_01But then again, it's like, come on, it's like music school. Like, I know I hate it.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I liked her music when she was. I agree. She sounded sexual. I know she just wants to rest on her laurels, so whatever. Emily's daughter, Annabelle's a teenager. I didn't really that's all I put, and I really don't care. Jen's, I put Jen's million kids, that's all I put. I don't even know what that means.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Is that where they confront the kid the kid about how he owes $700?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's not enough uh in and out that you can, you know, that can pay that thing off, you know, as far as for working there. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03Shannon's back from Mexico, she FaceTimes um her daughter in Paris, and the daughter wants to live there.
SPEAKER_01Dude, that's crazy. Like it's like for me, it's like, you know, that's cool and all, you know, but who the fuck is paying for your shit? Mom is paying for your shit.
SPEAKER_02Of course.
SPEAKER_01You know, and it's just like, I don't know. For me, it's like, would I love like would I love to have maybe like a like let's say I had a shit ton of money and I, you know, I was able to, like you're saying, like earlier, afford like a sweet spot, like you know, for vacation at you know, our favorite spot, whether it's in, you know, Mexico or you know, wherever the fuck, you know, or whatever. It's like I'm good to be there for vacation, not to freaking live there. It's like, I'm sorry, but you know, you really really truly see, like, as far as how um you know how uh the difference between living in another country and living in the United States, you know what I mean? That's just my opinion.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I'm I'm going crazy. I can hear like the most intense cricket I've ever heard in my life. What is that?
SPEAKER_01It's a cricket, a normal cricket.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. It's like going double time. Like the the It's a it's a normal cricket. No, that's insane. I I can't even I can't do this. I just closed the window, you guys. I'm sorry. I get overstimulated. I couldn't, I didn't what did you just say right now? Please don't repeat it, but I'm sure you made your point. Okay, let's move forward. Shannon's walking her dogs. She has like this new dog, and his name is Troy, and he's like really rambunctious. Rambunctious. Rambunctious.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, you were defending Danny. Comfortable. Wait, come uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01No, just I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_03Comfortable.
SPEAKER_01Comfortable. Because that's how you're supposed to say you're not supposed to say uncomfortable. Uh, how do people?
SPEAKER_03No, we just say I'm uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01Uncomfortable. It's not comfort, like it's comfortable.
SPEAKER_03It's like, no, it's no, I'm uncomfortable. Just get get real. Like, seriously, you're I just I can't stand you right now. Oh she's walking her dogs. Okay, so she by the way, R R A P Archie.
SPEAKER_01I know it's I you know, uh, for me, I can only imagine what because you know, they all for the most part need to watch back and you know, so that way they're ready for you know the reunion. It's gotta gonna, it's gonna be heart-wrenching to watch that again. Come on, let's be honest about it. You know, you figure to to see the you know, whether it's the kooky times or the good times, or fuck even the bad times, just to see the the your dog again alive, you know, it's like that has to be heart-wrenching.
SPEAKER_03Do Troy just seems like a little nightmare. I'm sure once it's just showing up her passport. Do you have to pay for like to replace it like a whole other by the way? You need to get your passport. Yeah, of course. Um she's wondering if Troy more so annoys Archie. Probably so.
SPEAKER_01Personally, I just feel like once um, you know, now that it's just gonna be them two, they're gonna get to know each other a whole lot better, and I bet you they're gonna get along better as well.
SPEAKER_03Right. Personally, Vicky is stuck in Mexico until she gets her permanent resident card, she's hanging with her brother Billy. You know what's funny? I was like, oh, technically I have a brother Billy too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_03Um, but Billy's getting some suspect late night massages.
SPEAKER_01Uh, yeah, he's a fucking pervert. Mexico. Like, let's be honest. Like getting fucking jerked off, you know, by uh by the massage. Like it's like, yeah, that's pervert actions, you know, but whatever. But um, let's be honest, it's so weird. It's so weird because it's like I maybe I'm not the expert on citizenship or residency or anything like that, but you're a fucking US citizen, you were born in the United States. Why can't you leave Mexico? I just don't get it.
SPEAKER_03Like, um, well, it's I wouldn't argue things. We don't really don't know.
SPEAKER_01They're not just I just like to me, it's like you're you're a United States citizen.
SPEAKER_03No, I understood, but maybe if like maybe I don't know what the whole resident card thing because she's trying to have dual citizenship. Obviously, there has to be something to it.
SPEAKER_02I mean, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Gina's house, her mom and her are talking about how Travis wants her to change her name because he thinks it's weird that she has her like ex's last name when they just got married. What are your thoughts on this?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, fuck that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, see, and then the mom's even like it's that's like old school, but she didn't she doesn't think it has to be old school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But for you, I changed my last name, which is still remains to be a pain in the ass at the moment.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, because you don't change shit, you know, as far as pretty.
SPEAKER_03What are you talking about? Social security, I already did that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but then you your bank account is still your maiden name. So let's be honest. Whatever. But no, I but it's not an ex question to answer your question. Yeah, fuck that. If it was your ex's last name, you damn right. You it's like you're changing that shit. Fuck that. Fuck that loser.
SPEAKER_03Chill.
SPEAKER_01He's a loser. Come on.
SPEAKER_03He's a loser. Oh, this is a little bit more.
SPEAKER_01He's a loser, yes.
SPEAKER_03No, Travis is. Make up your mind.
SPEAKER_01No, Travis is a loser because he should have left, you know, a long time ago, you know, when he was living in the middle of the world.
SPEAKER_03Heather and her mom. Can I just say 84 looks great? That's what money can buy you. Heather's mom is first off, I'm entertained by her. I mean, let's compare like Ariba.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Um, who else has a who how who Aeba and uh what's her name? Fuck. Okay, I'm gonna whose mom. It's uh what's her name?
SPEAKER_03Um oh from what franchise?
SPEAKER_01It from Salt Lake City.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Muffy? Muffy!
SPEAKER_01Uh no, no, Muzzy. Muzzy, muzzy. That's it right there. Good job.
SPEAKER_03Okay, thank you. Um Muzzy.
SPEAKER_01She's a different thing.
SPEAKER_03I love a difficult mom.
SPEAKER_01No, but no, Muzzle's.
SPEAKER_03Joe Allen's mom, I'm not gonna lie. She isn't. I think Joe Allen is becoming like another ultimate victim where she really painted it like this came out of nowhere, the mom thing. Yeah, and then as time went on, it's like, oh, so you were like running the shower, sneaking out the window to go be with your boyfriend.
SPEAKER_01Like, yeah, but here's the thing Muzzy was a complete asshole. She um eventually came around. So did Reba. No, Reba came around after like two episodes. You know, it was quick, you know, but Reba is like a delight. Reba now is how um is how this mom is, and that's it, that's like their daughter's kryptonite. Personally, I think the mom is Heather's kryptonite. I love her to death. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Um, here's the thing. Heather's basically saying, like, you weren't around for my kids growing up. It would have been and you should be on Heather's side because you are very much like like family needs to be close together. You got really mad when your brother moved to a different state. I'm like, he's starting his own family, like let him do what he wants to do. It's that's his family now, like whatever. And the mom's kind of the same way, like, oh well, I saw you. I flew out for your things. I I saw you, you know, yearly, whatever. To that, I'm like, yeah, see, I'm the same way. I'm like, I don't know. Maybe because I I don't have like a super tight-knit inner immediate family.
SPEAKER_01Let's be honest. Like, as far as for you, you know, you have a lot of family in, you know, Oklahoma, and it's just like, even for me, it's like, you know, obviously, I absolutely love your family in Oklahoma. To like I would die for them, you know, as far as how much I love them. But the thing is, is that in retrospect, obviously, if you look back at it, it's just like why if your daughter's here? Like, I couldn't imagine moving to another state, especially a state that's not so close, and not being able to see my daughter kind of whenever I wanted to.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but that's not and who's not to say when she grows up, she doesn't go move to another state. You can't sit here and be like, you can't move. Like, then you just plan. See, to me, it's like you should want your kids to grow, to go get like, don't let tether them down because you're like, but you're leaving me. Like, you should want your kids to go and explore.
SPEAKER_01I want you to feel like shit because you're leaving your dad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you see, that's that's not how you should be. So to that point, I think Heather's mom is just a delight. You were fine. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I did her, I did like her blasé attitude about she's like, where's the other part of dad's ashes? And she's like, Oh, I don't know. I'll I'll I think I'll find it.
SPEAKER_01She said it's here somewhere.
SPEAKER_03It's here somewhere, and then she's like, Okay, and she's like, I don't remember what she said, and then she's just like very blasé, like, maybe, maybe we'll find it, maybe not. I thought it was so funny.
SPEAKER_01It was. I'm telling you, she was a fucking delight.
SPEAKER_03I hope that's great.
SPEAKER_01I hope that she's gonna be part of this the this whole squad.
SPEAKER_03I think it's not just a one-off, I think it'll be about as much as we see Reba.
SPEAKER_01And but here's the thing. Where has she been? Yeah, where has she been?
SPEAKER_03New York.
SPEAKER_01Mike, no, no, no, but I'm saying on the fucking show, it's like she should have been or Amsterdam?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I don't know, but you know, whatever. It's like, dude, we needed her.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Big time. Why is she the best the best person on the cast, you know, up to this point?
SPEAKER_03Correct. Anyway, people are getting ready for Heather's party. So she's having this party, it's like a Valentine's themed. $75,000.
SPEAKER_01To be honest, like for Heather, is it just me, or did that just seem like cheap? Was that didn't that did that not?
SPEAKER_03Summertime ants drive me insane.
SPEAKER_01Didn't that didn't that seem like an like a steal for an Heather?
SPEAKER_03No, because this party looked pretty cheesy.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_03I didn't like it. It was ugly, it didn't make for like aesthetically pleasing.
SPEAKER_01And how about this? So obviously the party didn't seem like a big like space per se. Maybe, not like last year, you know, where it was like massive. But the thing is, is that can you imagine if there was a perfume bar and you know, it's like how bad would that have smelled? Because you know damn well people mixing different, you know, fragrances or whatever would not smell good.
SPEAKER_03Fishing for diamonds, tattoos, downtowns, like it was all dumb as hell. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, agreed.
SPEAKER_03Uh, we meet Carmella. This is Jen's friend, real estate agent, Cleveland, ex-playmate. First impressions. Well, hold on. We'll we'll get to it.
SPEAKER_01Um, real quick, um, as far as for her, did she not seem uh she in my opinion, she looked like what's her name from uh from New Jersey. Who the one with the the husband Fuda?
SPEAKER_03Fuda footage.
SPEAKER_01No, no, close, you're close. Shit.
SPEAKER_03Foota? Why am I trying to oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01Okay, hold on.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh hold please.
SPEAKER_03No, just Rachel Foota. Foota.
SPEAKER_01Ah, that's right.
SPEAKER_03I told you. But does she have faith?
SPEAKER_01Is it just me or does she look very close to her?
SPEAKER_03Uh it's just you. Okay, let's move on. I guess it's a little bit more. Um, Tamara sees Emily and she's like, oh my god, you're so skinny. And then Emily. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. It's okay, summertime. We have this little ant situation, right? They're just out looking for food. Anyway, okay, so uh let's see. Emily wants Tamar to take accountability, not not in this lifetime. They shade Jen for not st for still not being married to Ryan, and they think that Gina will get married before Jen and Ryan do.
SPEAKER_01I actually believe that.
SPEAKER_03Probably.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But then I think at this point it's gonna be a competition.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Shannon arrives, she has to put on her dress outside. This Shannon always does his shit because if she puts it in, remember she'll always put the seat all the way back and like lay there like she doesn't want to wrinkle.
SPEAKER_00But that's fucking weird, dude. Like, you know.
SPEAKER_03Shannon wants nothing to do with camera, so they kind of you know, keep their distance.
SPEAKER_01Fair, like, it's like who the fuck even wants to be a part of her life? You know, it's like I would have I would have been the same way. It's like I'm just I'm better off. That's just my opinion. That's the right move, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_03Heather's son, it was kind of weird. He comes out and he's like, I don't even I don't remember what he said, but he's like the Proclaim master of ceremonies, and he's like, I'm Heather's handsome son.
SPEAKER_01But what was so like like saying you're handsome is why the fuck I would say it. It's like, get a load of me, old ladies. Yeah, yeah. Soak it in.
SPEAKER_03It's kind of weird. Like Heather's like I think ultimately scalate my old friends. Like it's weird.
SPEAKER_01So, but my whole thing, it's it just it's just a way to show how much you know this this like show has come along. It's like you remember him as being, you know, the 20-year-old boy to now being a 40-year-old man, you know. Let's be honest.
SPEAKER_03Gross. Okay. Heather has okay, I already said that. Emily wants to do an ice lose shot. Carmella. Have you done one of those? I have. At a frat party at Cal State Long Beach.
SPEAKER_01Oh, God. Boom.
SPEAKER_03No, it's and after that, the quick side story. So they had an ice lose, right? Everyone was doing it. Everyone was just putting their mouth on the same piece of ice. So what Emily was like, this seems unsanitary. Yeah, bitch, it's an ice lose. Anyway, and so we were doing that, and then the party ended, and I was like, I'm craving a sourdough bread bowl. And literally, we drove from Long Beach that night to San Francisco for a bread bowl.
SPEAKER_01You know, the funny thing is that now there's a place called like San Francisco Sourdough Company or something like that. And there's one in like from here from where we live, probably 20 minutes away. There's even one closer. There's one that like 10 to 15 away. There's Ontario and there's one in Chino.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01And there you go.
SPEAKER_03Well, point is Carmella calls the ice luge a a a lube.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03And then she's like, oh, well, this is giving off Playboy Mansion vibes. Maybe that's all my brain or something.
SPEAKER_01Like the jury's still out for me on her. You know, it I I will do my very best to like not like reserve judgment. Now it's different on like um, for example, like Rhode Island. They're all new, so you gotta make a judgment snap right away. You know, but for her, you know, obviously being in the mix with, you know, a bunch of people that have been there for at least 10 years or more. Yeah, you know, it's like I'm reserving the right, you know, to judge because I let's just see where this goes.
SPEAKER_03We'll see. Um Vicky shows up with her boyfriend's daughter, and she's I guess she just got a cyst removed under her armpit, so she was like putting a pad on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_03That was weird. Uh Tamra gets a tattoo on her wrist. I don't remember what it was.
SPEAKER_01And then why, and then of course, it's so funny, Heather's tattoo, which was that one that's like on the the like the side of your middle finger. Like it's just like, oh god.
SPEAKER_03Carmella meets Vicky and they're like, You gotta kiss the ring, and she's like, No, so that's why I think you'll like Carmella.
SPEAKER_01Possibly, but again, I'm just I'm reserving judgment. Plain and simple.
SPEAKER_03Shannon bonds with Carmella over that they both live in Corona Del Mar, and she's like, I'm the Duchess, ha ha ha ha. And like she's kidding, and I don't know, it's just we'll have to see. Carmela seems a little bit too dry. She's too like I like when Lacey is dead pan, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01But it's just to me, it's like it's we need an older friend of. It's just new people, it's just like this. Let's be honest uh with all of us, you know. I really feel that they're gonna put this show on hiatus for a couple years, and then somehow, some way they're gonna kind of do in a way, like a uh a revamp, like New York, but then obviously it's gonna be Gina, Emily, you know, stuff like that. They're just gonna eventually just kind of revamp the whole thing, and I just think that's how it's gonna be. Right now, you cannot have a new new person.
SPEAKER_03Heather does a speech saying, like, oh, we have new friends here, old friends, and then Tamara throws out the passive aggressive historical friends, you mean, or whatever. Heather says, Life is short, let's do jello shots, which was my mentality on 4th of July. Yes. Just didn't understand it.
SPEAKER_01I guess so. But can I can I tell you real quick, uh, like when they were talking about like the you know, when new or whatever, I just felt like the office when it was casino night, and these all old friends, new lovers.
SPEAKER_03Anyways, Jen tells Gina that Shannon thinks Heather will not be honest about how she really feels about Tamara.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. She would not say that straight to her face.
SPEAKER_03The women all feel frustrated about how Heather's show buddy buddy with Tamara, but they know how much she talks shit behind her back. Heather gets her stupid finger tattoo. Tamra goes up to Vicky and is like, I love you so much. And it's funny because Shannon like awkwardly walks by.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Gina tells Heather that Shannon feels Heather isn't honest about okay. I'm basically saying the whole thing. Oh, she says this to Heather, right? Story in the pot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We only get mad sometimes when that happens.
SPEAKER_01No. Just keep going. I just want to hear what you had to say.
SPEAKER_03Tamra is telling Vicky. Um I don't I don't even know what these my notes mean. It says Tamra telling Vicki Gina and Heather were giving her shit for being friends with Vicky. Oh, okay, so Tamra's like playing the victim, right? Telling them, like, oh, well, they were giving me shit for being friends with you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then Heather says she expressed how she felt to Tamara, but she has been friends with Tamara for a long time. She's not gonna turn her back on her. She just pretty much like puts her in a box, which you know they bring up later to her.
SPEAKER_01Of course. Yeah, which is gonna be damning information.
SPEAKER_03Tamara's like, I don't want them to come between us. This is her telling Vicky, and then Vicky calls Heather over, and she's like, Why are you being mean about me? And then Heather's like, You're the one saying I inherited all my money. Which, but then we heard the thing, and she didn't say, Oh, she inherited all her money. She just said like three different aspects of getting money.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03So I'm like, Okay, Heather, I mean, she didn't just say the only reason Heather is rich is because she inherited it.
SPEAKER_01But even if that's the case, even if that's the case.
SPEAKER_03No, but I get it, they built from the ground up, whatever, but I'm saying Vicky didn't say that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but even if that's the case, let's say I had a rich, rich uncle, you know, or something like that, and let's say I just, you know, dumb luck fell into some massive money because of you know, inheritance. I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna flaunt it, I'm gonna flex it, I'm going to let you know that I'm rich. And I don't care how I got it.
SPEAKER_03I know Heather just she has to stick up her ass again.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agreed.
SPEAKER_03And then, but then Vicky kind of shades of like, oh, your brother or Terry's brother, which was like someone on Thin Lizzie or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yeah. Maybe I didn't miss that. I missed that part.
SPEAKER_03Come on, I've actually bring the noise, right? Isn't that though?
SPEAKER_01No, that's Quiet Riot, baby.
SPEAKER_03Oh, quite right.
SPEAKER_01That's oh, Quiet Riot.
SPEAKER_03Quite right.
SPEAKER_01Not Thin Lizzie.
SPEAKER_03Not Thin Lizzie.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay, okay. I was like right. Then yes, you're right.
SPEAKER_03Okay, sorry.
SPEAKER_01Um I always think of the monkey like the like when it was like a commercial and it was like a monkey or whatever. You don't remember that? Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03Uh, she's like, my husband worked at KFC. Like, okay, Heather.
SPEAKER_00Vicky Like when he was like 16?
SPEAKER_03Vicki throws shade, like, I don't know doctors with $40 million houses. I'm sorry, but he's a plastic surgeon. They sure as hell do. We see with uh what's his name? Lisa Hochstein Hoxtein.
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03What's his name? Lenny.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Lenny. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03Lenny's the same thing. Plastic surgeon has a big heat.
SPEAKER_01And then isn't and then the practice being where he's at, of course he's gonna make some fucking bank. But not just that.
SPEAKER_03He does like five boob jobs a day. Like, that pays a lot. They're paying a lot of money for that.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. But but uh where isn't his practice in Beverly Hills?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So it's like, come on, of course. Like, dude, let's be real. But not just that, he also has a TV show, not or not Orange County, but he has his own.
SPEAKER_03I know he's invested in a lot of shit. So I don't know why Vicky thinks that's not plausible, because it certainly is, but and they like flip houses and stuff, like they renovate and then sell whatever.
SPEAKER_01Okay and we're talking about big ass fucking houses, not like you know, some $400,000, you know, house in the suburbs. Of course, dude, honestly, like the she is like up going up a hill on skates on ice, like it ain't happening.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, right, but then also Heather's still a snob and it's annoying.
SPEAKER_01I agree.
SPEAKER_03Jen talks to Tamara and she says she's tired of the fakeness. She says Heather said she put her in a box and can compartmentalize her friendship with Tamara. This hurts her feeling. Tamara leaves.
SPEAKER_01Can I be honest? Like, that that honestly isn't that bad of a thing. I don't even think it's either because Tamra is a fucking asshole.
SPEAKER_03So Tamara, like she is a fucking monster. What's up with Heather? Like, does she not know she's like attaching her trailer to the wrong Yeah, for real. I don't even know though.
SPEAKER_01Hitch.
SPEAKER_03Hitch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Jen then tells Heather after Tamara's gone about what she told Tamara, and then Heather's disappointed saying, you know, I felt like we were going forward, and now everything just went backwards again. But she can't really say that much because she did say what Jen told her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03And I mean that's pretty much where it ended. Oh, I forgot to mention, I thought it was kind of funny when they showed Shannon jumping in the bounce house.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and she was on the on the freaking ground.
SPEAKER_03I thought it was kind of funny.
SPEAKER_01They didn't give a fuck. She's like, let me get up. And they're like, no, fuck you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That was great.
SPEAKER_03Any other thoughts on this episode?
SPEAKER_01No, I'm just ready to fucking do Hero and Zero!
SPEAKER_04Hero and Zero!
SPEAKER_01Okay. Oh my god, it's been so long.
SPEAKER_03So long.
SPEAKER_01Who'd you pick?
SPEAKER_03My hero is Heather's mom. Oh, I feel like we are so disrespectful because I don't even know her name.
SPEAKER_00Shit. You're right. I hate to say that.
SPEAKER_03So Heather's mom, I will find out your name, and I just thought you were an absolute delight. Zero. I'm going to say. I don't know why, but I'm going to pick Jen.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god. I was thinking in my brain, I was like, I bet you're going to say Jen, okay? Here's why.
SPEAKER_03Here's why.
SPEAKER_01I know why, but yeah, let's do it.
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm going to say why.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, do it.
SPEAKER_03Your kid started a fire. Your other kid is putting everyone's life at risk on the 405. Um. Or the five. And I just think you are really trying to ruffle Tamara's feathers, but make Heather the fall guy, right? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like instead of just being like, I still can't stand you for the FBI stuff and whatever. Jen, she's pissing me off.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03What about you?
SPEAKER_01I will go same Z on the hero. Uh, Heather's mom was a fucking delight.
SPEAKER_03Because there's no one else to root for.
SPEAKER_01Like personally, I just any time where if like all she had to do, all any of those moms that we talked about, Muzzy, Reba, all they had to do from the beginning was not be a fucking asshole. They failed that. But of course, somehow, some way they made their way back, and we all some I don't I still don't give a shit about Muzzy. Reba, I fucking love Reba. You know, whatever. But she, we will get your name right next time, I promise. Uh, but she uh was a fucking delight from the beginning. I love that she was immediately Heather's kryptonite. Loved it, you know. Great, great, great job, great debut. Love it. Anyways, Carol. Carol.
SPEAKER_03Carol, you're our hero.
SPEAKER_01We fucking love you. Anyways, um, so yeah, so definitely Carol Hero for sure. Zero is gonna be Vicky because honestly, fuck you, Vicky. Honestly, I'm gonna tell you right now. Like, uh, I don't I know that you've been with her from the beginning. I get it, but how dare you call yourself an empath? And I'm gonna tell you right now, like honestly, like you're going very deep into what she's saying, you're reading between the lines and all that stuff. I'm taking it at face value. She just called those people poor and losers. Oh my god You know, I'm sorry. I just felt that it was just really, really it was shitty to say it on camera. And then not just that, to be honest with you, I just feel like she's just she's just not with it, you know, in my opinion. You know, she's gonna be the way that she is. You know, it is what it is, you know, whatever. I get that. I like that. But the thing is, honestly, I just feel like she's not gonna mesh well, and I guarantee you, she's gonna be one of Tamara's pets, and then I guarantee that's gonna make her Vicky, because that's why, in my opinion, that's why they're so buddy buddy immediately in Mexico. But I guarantee you it's gonna be Vicky versus Shannon versus uh obviously versus Tamara in the end. She's they're gonna end badly, and that's just the truth. That's just my opinion, you know. But that but whatever, it is what it is. But like I said, I really fucking hope this is gonna be a better season because season uh episode one, dud, complete dud. What do you think? Same, same Z. All right. Well, that's it. But let's see what's up. So we thank you, love you. My goodness, it was so so long. I miss you guys so much.
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