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Open Marriage Podcast
We're Going the Distance!
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In this episode we're closing the gap on our opinions of LDR (Long-distance relationships)
Do they work, or not? Listen in and give your opinion!
Start off, baby. Start it off, start it off, start it off, start it off.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's been about this is two weeks later. We didn't report last week. But we're back.
SPEAKER_04Like we never left.
SPEAKER_00How are you feeling?
SPEAKER_04Um all things considered. What's so funny?
SPEAKER_00What are the things to consider?
SPEAKER_04Um, I think it's waking up at seven o'clock in the morning, going to the gym, just being like, oh my god, what the fuck is happening? And then getting all of these set all of these things set up properly. Um, I'm like, yeah, it's a lot, but I feel good overall.
SPEAKER_00Are you ready for a nap?
SPEAKER_04I'm I'm ready to do a deep slumber. Oh. For sure.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's only what, like 11 30 in the morning?
SPEAKER_04Sleep is for all hours of the day. So the moment that we finish this, and then we're gonna go we're gonna get lunch later. But uh yeah, I feel good. How are you feeling, baby?
SPEAKER_00I feel great. I mean, I wake up early every single day. Um, I go from sunup to sundown with no breaks, no rests, no nap.
SPEAKER_04Um disgusting.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, I'm feeling good. I mean, I have a lot of things I need to accomplish today, but um nothing that won't get done. I took yesterday completely off, so I think that's part of it. I knew that by laying on the couch yesterday and like kind of having leisure time meant that it would be more jam-packed today, but I think it's fine.
SPEAKER_02Excellent. I'm so happy to hear that.
SPEAKER_00Thanks.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna do exactly what we did yesterday, and that's several naps during the day. You know what I mean? You gotta if you wanna operate on a full battery, you gotta recharge. You know what I mean? Just keep me plugged in by sleeping.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. Fair enough. Um, okay, well, welcome to episode number two. This time we have a full setup. So thank you. It looks great. We made some adjustments from last week. And when I say we, I definitely mean you. I did not do any of the work.
SPEAKER_04You gave me the direction, the insight. We recorded last week, and I was like, okay, everything was a muck. Everything was shutting down, but I'm like, okay, this time people don't just want to hear our voice, they want to see what we look like. They need to see that we easy on eyes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, if I do say so myself, I think I'm I hate when we do that.
SPEAKER_00No, I really don't. I'm sorry. It's fine. Keep going. Love.
SPEAKER_04Okay, but yeah, we we back. We're we're we're doing this. Everything is recording well. Uh all cameras are set up, and uh now we have the second episode to shoot. So what are we gonna be tackling today, gorgeous?
SPEAKER_00Uh okay. Well, last week, not actually two weeks ago, we talked about how we met. It's also coming up on a year.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Wednesday of this week. I mean, a year, three years. Why do I keep saying a year? It's been three years since I met you.
SPEAKER_04It's been a couple days.
SPEAKER_00I just met you yesterday. Um, so we figured that we would talk a little bit about like long distance relationships and uh just like some a few topics within that that larger category of long distance relationships since we were in a long distance relationship or LDR, if you want to give a short and condensed you don't like that?
SPEAKER_04You and your acronyms.
SPEAKER_00I grew up in Orange County, California. Everything is an acronym.
SPEAKER_04OMG. Okay, uh sure.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, uh, so I figured we could talk through long distance and kind of what our experience was, see if we can chat through some misconceptions um and like what worked well for us when we were long distance in terms of how much we communicated and and how often we saw each other.
SPEAKER_04Just for the record?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't think long distance is for everybody.
SPEAKER_00Hot take? Is that a hot take? I I mean in our relationship it is.
SPEAKER_04Why is that? What makes you say that?
SPEAKER_00I don't think that you thought that we could do long distance when we first met. Hell no!
SPEAKER_04Alright, sorry. So if that was very loud.
SPEAKER_00If someone's airpods are turned up, their their eardrum is now blasted. I'm so sorry. She's gonna be responsible for paying the bill.
SPEAKER_04Heck no. H-E double hockey sticks, no. Long distance, no, thank you. Keep it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I personally think that it can work. I always thought that it could work if the right circumstances and the right people were involved.
SPEAKER_04Well, you're always the right person for every situation.
SPEAKER_00That's not necessarily true.
SPEAKER_04No. Except when we work out together, I'm like, nah, I gotta leave you at home. I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_00That is so mean. I'm not going to the gym with you ever again. No, please, please. It's great. It's fine. I'll give my own gains on my own time by myself.
SPEAKER_04Come on, who are you gonna get gains if it ain't with me, baby?
SPEAKER_00Anyway, back on track.
SPEAKER_04Yes, long distance.
SPEAKER_00We can talk about the gym and like relationship um habits later on, because at first sounded like a good idea. I mean, I kind of asked if I could go with you, and now you're like, don't ever come back with me. Um, so we'll save that for us a later episode.
SPEAKER_04We're gonna work out together. But back on topic, long distance.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so here's a question to you. Um, why so you still think they don't work for everyone? They're not good for everyone.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00Okay, why?
SPEAKER_04Um, well, it goes into the common beliefs. I think people everyone has their thing that they need in order for them to feel confident and comfortable in a relationship, and I think proximity is one of them. I don't know if it's um if you want to tap into like the the aspect of love languages or anything like that, but I I in an ignorant opinion think that physical touch is very much needed for people.
SPEAKER_00Sure.
SPEAKER_04And if you're not around like at least every day.
SPEAKER_00Every day.
SPEAKER_04I think people would prefer to, if they're gonna be in a relationship, to be able to see their partner every single day.
SPEAKER_00But one would argue, and that that the one that's arguing is me, that being able to physically touch your partner doesn't necessarily allow you the same space to connect intellectually because you rely on the physical nature of your relationship to like drive you forward.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so that's a hot take that you think people prioritize the physical touch of uh the intellectual connection.
SPEAKER_00I don't think I don't know that I think this. I I think I have enough exper in my own experience with people that I know and things that I've observed, it that is what takes over.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Because people typically are having sex in the first few weeks of knowing each other, which means then that becomes like a like routine thing. So where time is spent being intimate sexually, it could have been spent being intimate intellectually.
SPEAKER_03Damn, girl, you're real good with your words. I like you. What so so you a therapist, huh? What book should you be reading?
SPEAKER_00I'm not a licensed therapist. Please do not tell people this.
SPEAKER_03Yet.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, correct. Um, okay, so that's your hot take. My hot take is I think if people spent more time spending if I I think if people spent more time talking to each other about the intricacies of relationships and what they want out of it and really connecting on like a personal level not necessarily in place of, but in addition to the physical touch, then it could be just as successful.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I don't think that's too wild of a hot take. I I think that can be applied. I think that's something that people might need to be aware of, for sure. I think that growing up I've always heard people say, or at least my perspective on long distance relationships is the aspect of like infidelity, you know what I mean? Because you can't keep your eye on your partner 24-7.
SPEAKER_00100%.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? If if you leave the room, I'm like, I need to look in there to see if she's still good. You know what I mean? I'm not saying just because I'm not around you, you're gonna cheat. But I think that when it comes to people having long distance relationships, it's typically like, oh, you don't know what they could be doing. You know what I mean? They could be playing in your face. I love that phrase, by the way. I I don't even I love that phrase. Yo, you you're playing in my face right now. I love that shit. But anyway, it's always something that I was aware of, and nobody nobody wants to be blindsided, have the ro rug pulled out underneath you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but also one could argue that that could happen whether or not you live in close proximity to somebody.
SPEAKER_04Sure. But why increase the probability with distance?
SPEAKER_00I it I don't think the two are causation, is not correlation in this situation. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Just because you live away from someone in a larger distance does not mean that they're more likely to partake in infidelity.
SPEAKER_03Sure. Sure.
SPEAKER_00It does mean that there's less opportunity for you to be maybe aware of it when it's happening because you're not close enough to see it going on, but let's be real. People are gonna be sneaky if they want to be sneaky and cheat if they want to cheat.
SPEAKER_04True, true, and I think, and that's interesting because you brought up earlier that tip people typically prioritize their physical connection, and they think that's the only thing that's really holding the relationship together. Not only thing, but I think that's the predominantly like biggest thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, I think that like when you're in a relationship, you tend to um rely on the physical aspect of the relationship after like the initial fire butterflies begin. It's just like human nature. A thing you life gets busy, you start doing stuff. So there's less there's like less time that you're actually taking to like connect. I also think that a lot of people don't necessarily believe that their partner, there's more things to learn about their partner over time, which is why I think that relationships end so frequently. People think that the person I met today is the same person I'm gonna know in a year or two years, five years from now. But it's not the case. I mean, hopefully it isn't, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_04That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm learning about you every single day, and I know you for what, three years?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
unknownGod damn.
SPEAKER_04I've known you way too long. I know everything about you. Don't be switching up now, talking about your favorite color, blue, when yesterday was green. Don't be trying to switch it up on me.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do everything that you do. I wanna be the exact same. No, I'm kidding. Um, okay, so we talked about a little bit of some of the common misbelief or common beliefs about long distance relationships. You shared some of them. What other besides like, you know, that it lends itself to maybe more opportunities to be out here in the streets. Um, what else are some of the beliefs around like long distance relationships?
SPEAKER_04I mean, what constitutes this long distance?
SPEAKER_00This is the reason why like we can never just ask a question because you will ask the secondary question to the question that was.
SPEAKER_04Well, no, I was just about to answer. Like, for example, um you and I.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I was living in Vegas and you were living in LA. LA.
SPEAKER_00You forgot where I live for?
SPEAKER_04Well, I was gonna say Orange County. I didn't live in Orange County. Okay. Well, you were living in LA. Some people would be like, that's not long distance.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, long distance is anything that's longer than a 30-minute drive, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so An hour.
SPEAKER_00Maybe, maybe like long distance can be constituted in this sense as like anything out of state. Okay. Or like if you're in the city of California, it would need to because California is so large that it doesn't really, you can't really just say like only out of state. Because someone could be living in California in SoCal and they could be living, someone else could be living in the Bay Area, and that's a 10-hour drive.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_00So I would say it's like anything over the distance in a car of like two hours.
SPEAKER_03Okay, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say I mean, you don't you think that my ex and I were long distance? We were we were that was like 75 miles in between us. I couldn't easily get there.
SPEAKER_04I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_00What?
SPEAKER_04Yes, you did. I'll be paying attention to nobody other than me. What are you talking about? It's only about me. Oh no, but that other man. No, but anyway, um, well, yeah, sure. I think there's a lot of people that would say, like, if I told them what when I used to tell them not, oh yeah, my my girls in um LA, they'll be like, oh, well, that's not really long distance because you know you can see them more frequently. I'm like, I guess.
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_00But the thing about it is like if you look at the map and calculate the number of miles, it is not a short distance. It's a long distance, it's hundreds of miles away. Sure, sure. So I'm just like anybody who's saying that, if they're talking about like, oh, I've been in a relationship that's like bicoastal, it's a whole different form of long distance relationships, or like somebody that's in one country versus another.
SPEAKER_04So there's levels to it.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Okay, I think it helped that we were on the same time zone and a 45-minute flight away and a four-hour drive away or three and a half, whatever. Um, okay, back to some other like misconceptions or beliefs about long distance. What are some other beliefs about long distance relationships?
SPEAKER_04I mean, those are the only ones that come up in mind. It's like the infidelity or the um it's not sustainable. It just doesn't work ultimately.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I would agree. Uh I don't really listen to people's opinions, I'll be honest. Even though we're making a podcast or people are listening to our opinions. I I don't really consume media in that kind of way. Um but I if I had to think back to times I talked about long distance relationships, I would say that those are some of the few that always come up.
SPEAKER_04Well, I always have like my mindset is if you want the relationship to work, you'll make it work. You'll do whatever you have to in order to make it work.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so let's talk about the reason why you were apprehensive to get into a long distance relationship with me at the start.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, it it was it was um it wasn't just that it was long distance. Mind you, everything everything There are other problems. It wasn't problems, it was just things to take into the account. There are other red flags.
SPEAKER_03Things to take into account.
SPEAKER_04I was just weighing the options.
SPEAKER_00Like what? What were you taking into account?
SPEAKER_04Let's stick with the long distance, the LDR, okay? But um, yeah, everything I was saying, like I've never been in a long distance relationship before. So that was it's a brand new thing to me. And I'm like, if I'm gonna be in a relationship you with you, I want to maximize on everything. That means you gotta be at least in the same state, we gotta be around so on and so forth. Now, that doesn't mean I gotta keep my eye on you. That's not what I'm talking about. But I'm just saying I want to maximize on the things that would make the relationship work, and that's proximity.
SPEAKER_00So for you, proximity was the main contributor as to why you didn't think that you might be able to get into a successful long-distance relationship with me. Sure. Okay, I why was your lip quivering?
SPEAKER_04Because it's it's not that simple.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm just trying to bottom line it for the people, that's all.
SPEAKER_04It okay, in a pie chart, sure, it was a core of the quarter, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so what was the rest of the pie chart?
SPEAKER_04Okay, uh as we're gonna go there. I thought it was gonna be in the other aspects of uh the other podcast.
SPEAKER_00We have a whole hour, so let's get into it.
SPEAKER_04Alright, well, another thing is my own personal like mindset about relationships. I personally didn't think that I was ready for a relationship because shit, you know what I mean? Vegas, boy.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I think that after 10 years of being in Vegas, you had your fair share of play and fun.
SPEAKER_04Okay, wait, wait. Don't just say, okay, like let's keep it PG 13.
SPEAKER_00I did, I said play and fun.
SPEAKER_04Okay, alright. Well, what I'm saying is, um Living in Vegas is such a transient state, or it can be. When I first came here, um, you know what I mean? Young dog and handsome, let's call it what it is. But as far as like making a connection with somebody, you're not gonna find love in the club. I mean, you might.
unknownI don't know.
SPEAKER_00Usher did. He made love in the club.
SPEAKER_04He made love, but I don't think he found love.
SPEAKER_00But Brianna found love in Hopeless Place, and that could be what the club is. I'm really really ready to go with my um musical references.
SPEAKER_04I feel like we should just drop in different sound bites. I think so too. Or like we don't get copyright for the city.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're gonna get sued. I don't have money for that.
SPEAKER_04As far as my perception of relationships and living in Vegas for so long, I'm like, there's just no way that I can find a relationship.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so what part of the pie what percentage of the pie chart is that?
SPEAKER_04Another 25.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so we need we have 50% of it covered. What's the other half of it?
SPEAKER_04I I think upbringing, my my personal upbringing, and this is no like this has nothing to do with my parents like that. But I think that how do I s how do I say this? I feel like I'm in a therapy session. I should have written my feelings down on paper. Um I feel like I put too much I put too much on expectation. So for example, and this is me showing my ass. Okay, good morning. Alright. This is this is this is me being vulnerable, okay? But typically what would happen is if I meet someone new, I'd be like, first day I'll be like, yep, mother of my children, ready to get married, today it's done. But what happens is you put too much, you put too much pressure on the person that you're starting to date, and you start building up this idea of who this person is without actually seeing who they are. Yeah. And so I put way too much I growing up and dating, I realized I kept on falling into that same trap. And so when I came across you, I was like, Do you know what? I'm not gonna do that again. I don't even hey we're gonna keep it. Slow and steady wins the race. That's why I was Dane. Slow and steady wins the race.
SPEAKER_00So okay, so that was another 25%.
SPEAKER_04Uh, I would probably say that was like a decent. It's definitely closer to 50.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. So it was a big portion of the buy.
SPEAKER_04It was a big portion of the buy. Okay. But long distance was was a factor, but I think that was the main thing. I was just like, ah, I I know what I fall victim to, and I didn't want to do that to you, to us.
SPEAKER_00So sure. Okay, thanks for letting me put you in the hot seat.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, I'm like, yo, we have we have okay. Why you asked me for a breakdown of what we're gonna tackle, and then you're like, curveball, so why are you trash?
SPEAKER_00Like, god dang! No, you're not trash at all. That's not what I was saying.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely not. Oh man. Oh, keep it going, baby. We have we have some technical issues. Just making sure that's still recording.
SPEAKER_00Um, okay, so you didn't think it was going to work in the beginning. At what point did you believe there was possibility for us? Because, I mean, for the record, we met. When we met, I was just visiting Vegas, but I was living in LA, or just about to move to LA from Orange County, and then throughout the duration of our relationship, up until when I moved here a year ago, so for two years we were doing long distance, and I was living in in LA, you're living here in Vegas. So, like, at what point in the course of our relationship were you like, okay, I can make this work long distance?
SPEAKER_04I think within a month, and it's because you showed dedication and a willingness to make it work. Like, so for example, um, I mean, after the first time we met, um, I'm like, okay, so am I gonna see you next week? Am I gonna see you this month? Are you gonna come out here? I didn't know what was what. Yeah, but the fact that I think that you were like, hey, um, I'm gonna come out, I'm gonna book a flight. And I think you came up within the next two weeks. Yeah, it was two weeks. I wasn't expecting that. Just being like, hey, yo, I'm gonna come back out here. I'm like, okay, cool. That showed me that you were willing to actually put in the work. And I and I wasn't like, well, I'm not gonna do anything if you don't, you know what I mean? Sure. But once I saw that, I'm like, okay, cool. Well, I can do the same. And so when did I come out next?
SPEAKER_00Was it Mother's Day when I moved to LA officially?
SPEAKER_04So what was that like?
SPEAKER_00So like I met you in April, like early April. I came back to Vegas like the weekend I think of the 20th. And then you came out May. Mother's Day is always like the second Sunday of May. So like two weeks, it was like two weeks after I think I had visited you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so I think there was in terms of taking uh taking everything with a grain of salt, we were both putting in the relationship to try and make it work.
SPEAKER_00So that's why after a month you're like, okay, yeah, this can work.
SPEAKER_04For sure.
SPEAKER_00Did you have any reservations um about us being long? Distance and let still continuing to date each other after the month?
SPEAKER_04Uh yeah, I did. I mean, and that's because I'm like, what what are you trying to get at?
SPEAKER_00I just want to understand. I'm just asking because I think it's important knowing that your hot take is, or maybe it's not a hot take, but like maybe popular opinion is that long distance relationships typically don't work out or they won't work out. I think it's important for people to hear the way in which you arrived at, okay, maybe this one will actually work, or this time it could work with this person.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I mean, I I can't speak for everybody. I'm just I'm just me. No, I know, I know.
SPEAKER_00But I think it's important as an important perspective to hear because at least from my perspective, I typically don't hear people talking about, oh I used to think this, and then now after this situation, like I think that they it could work with the right kind of people.
SPEAKER_04Well, yeah, I I think the the biggest factor was showing that we could show it for one another and make the attempts to to um to visit, but I think even more so than that we talked every single day.
SPEAKER_00That's a great segue because we're about we're gonna talk about like cadence and like the modes that we communicated in. So tell the people and how we first started communicating.
SPEAKER_04No, I had to hit up with that. Hey, shadow was go with you. Not on a phone call.
SPEAKER_00Also, realize how he just went like this.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00What kind of phone is this?
SPEAKER_04The millennials do this. What is that?
SPEAKER_00What is no you're a millennial? What is that? You're a millennial.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, Zillennials do that.
SPEAKER_00No, it's Gen Z. Not everyone's a Zelennial. It's a very small population of us.
SPEAKER_04Okay. We do this. Gen Z. Y'all do that.
SPEAKER_00Gen Z. No one's doing what is this?
SPEAKER_04This is picking up the cell phone.
SPEAKER_00It's like this. Oh my god. This is a C in sign language. Okay. What is this? When did a phone look like this?
SPEAKER_04I thought you said you used to have a rotary phone when you were younger.
SPEAKER_00It was fake.
SPEAKER_04Okay, but what did the actual thing that you put up with? Well we can't make it like this.
SPEAKER_00It's like a circle with like a circle.
SPEAKER_04Okay. You do that with your hand. That's the exact same thing.
SPEAKER_00It's frightening that you're either way.
SPEAKER_04Had you hit how to hit you with that I shot it was good with you. You know what I mean? Talking to your phone calls. See, I'm old school, we don't really do that um texting, you know what I mean? But the the evolved version is voice memos.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so okay, we started talking via voice mmos literally two days after I got back from s meeting you in Vegas. And that's how that's kind of like maintained throughout the duration of a relationship. I mean, we send them less now because we live together. But even if I don't see you for like, let's say I wake you wake up and I'm not in the house, sometimes you might send me a voice MO.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you know, just to just keep it just keep it fresh, stay consistent.
SPEAKER_00Some nostalgia.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Something slight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay, so we started with that voice MO's. And what would like why did you want to communicate that way? Because I personally had never sent a voice MO before I met you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think um, shoot. If you okay, like I said, can't speak for everybody. But if you're talking to somebody, you're in the dating phase, nobody wants to double text. You know what I mean? Like you can't seem thirsty, you know what I mean? I'm not gonna do that. But you can get away with it sending a voicemail because it's that one line, you know what I mean? But I'm not talking about I'm gonna go on a whole dissertation, you know what I mean? But it was being intentional. Sometimes right reading something through text doesn't necessarily evoke any kind of emotion, you don't get your point across. But if I was to literally text you, hey, good morning, that could come off dry.
SPEAKER_00Hey, but if you say it like that.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, like, like I said, I know that she she likes the way the voice sounds, so I was like I'm slowly shriveling up. Hey, good morning. Um, hope your day is gonna go well. Just um tap in with me anytime.
SPEAKER_01We can talk later when we are sweating.
SPEAKER_00My eyes are watering and I'm feeling sweaty.
SPEAKER_03I'm so sorry. Okay.
SPEAKER_00No, yeah, I'm fine. Okay.
SPEAKER_03That is so funny.
SPEAKER_00Anyway, but you're right, it does evoke emotion. That's like not a I'm not acting either. That's like for real.
SPEAKER_04Eyes is a war, right? I know. I I wonder if it's picking up on that camera. Hopefully not. But yeah, it's using my strengths. And mind you, I I don't look at myself as okay, like, yeah, I'm British, I'm gonna get you with my accent. You know what I mean? It's not even that, but it it's it's the closest thing to being as close as possible.
SPEAKER_00It's the closest thing to physical proximity, yeah. Which is what you value.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00See how I tie it all back. That's why I had to ask these questions so I can come back and just put a right nice little red bow on it.
SPEAKER_04You got me figured out, baby. Look, see, this is why we needed to do this podcast, because you be sounding good, be saying stuff, make me sound good.
SPEAKER_00You do that on your own.
SPEAKER_04Be talking good.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so we used to send voice MOS, which we both have admitted to having like redoing it multiple times for it to sound the best, and for like I've done them over and over again.
SPEAKER_04I it would be about 17 takes. I'd be like, hey, what's going on? Delete why am I sounding like that? Hello! Oh wait, no, messed up. And sometimes I would I would say something so perfectly, but I think like maybe 10 seconds in, I might stumble on my words. I'm like, I can't have a thinking I'm an imbecile. So I'm like, we gotta do this over again. And then obviously I'm like, yo, stop putting so much pressure on yourself, just make it quick.
SPEAKER_02Hey, hope you're doing well. Can't wait to talk to you later. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're great, they're so fun. Okay, so we I would say like that was the number one way that we communicated like throughout the day. And we didn't communicate like all day long either.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, not at all. It's and and I think that's uh that's another aspect of like not putting too much pressure on the relationship, on on the aspect. Like I send a quick voice to my mom, I hope you're doing well, but I'm living my life. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_00I used to wish that we talked more throughout the day.
SPEAKER_04You gotta leave them wanting more. I'm telling you, hey, I'm busy. I'm I'm about my bitness.
SPEAKER_00Well, then I realized that you were a night apple and that you probably were just like asleep if I didn't hear from you, so I was like, okay, well.
unknownOh yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, because you would stay up until like five, six o'clock in the morning, and I was in I was waking up at that time to go to work.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You weren't the only long distance relationship I was trying to uphold.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. Yeah, because your brothers.
SPEAKER_04I've got family in England, you know. I mean, time zones at least eight hours trying to make the best of both worlds.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, you were busy, booked.
SPEAKER_04Some had to some had to give. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Okay, so do we only send voice phones or do we do other things?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay, so I I love a good FaceTime, but at the same time, I don't know, people aren't really comfortable with that.
SPEAKER_00With FaceTime?
SPEAKER_04With yeah. So some people are like, yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is I think because I done mustered you up, you know what I mean, with all these voice memos. I was like, let's go to let's do the next step. Don't even do FaceTime, let's just talk on the phone, you know what I mean? I did those phone calls and you did TV phone calls for a while, yeah. And and you know it's you know what it's like when you just be on the phone all night, and that's something that I didn't realize when we would talk. When's the last time you stayed up all night talking on the phone? I'm so glad we don't have like it's not 200 uh like six where you have like a lamp line, you know what I mean? Because I used to be up all night on the phone talking to you. That was such such a beautiful time. It was like we were children again. Yeah, so fun. Had my feet up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I was swinging my legs like this.
SPEAKER_04Smiling up at the time.
SPEAKER_00Smiling in the bed. You're doing that?
SPEAKER_04I'll mess with that.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, I'm pretty sure you're calm, cool, and collected. You probably were smiling though with your dimples coming out.
SPEAKER_04I was like, hey.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Exactly. Um okay. We talked every day. On the phone, every day. Yeah. We talked on voice voice and mo every single day.
SPEAKER_04And mind you, it's not just like calling. We're not just calling just to be like, okay, we're on the phone, we're going through the motions. I'm literally like, who are you? We're so intentional with our time.
SPEAKER_00Well, and that's because you can't just sit on the phone. That's what I'm saying. It's like when you're in a I've been in relationships that have been close in proximity. And when you get on the phone, you just like are listening to each each other like breathe all the time, and you're like Yeah, because you're not really doing it, you're not talking about anything.
SPEAKER_04That's so sad.
SPEAKER_00But with you, there was never a dull moment, or there's never a time that we weren't talking about something in depth. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00I just have like I have notes in my journal about some conversations that we had in the past. Really? Like random conversations.
SPEAKER_04I would like to see these notes. You would. Yeah, sure. Because I don't remember nothing. I don't even remember yesterday like that.
SPEAKER_00Yes, you do.
SPEAKER_04You keep impeccable notes.
SPEAKER_00It was Easter.
SPEAKER_04Well, I okay. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Easter.
SPEAKER_00You got a basket.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but what I'm saying is as far as like our conversations, I don't I don't remember what we'd be talking about. I'd just be so in the present moment with you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And just chopping it up, you know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that makes sense. Um, okay, I feel good with that. With that's talking. I don't know why I'm supposed to be my arm is tired, okay? Okay. We're having me at the gym this morning at 6 30 a.m. doing all kinds of stuff, including front squats, which you know I don't like.
SPEAKER_04Gains. Hold on a second.
SPEAKER_00That happened. I love how it just stops recording in the middle of it. We can just cut that part out.
SPEAKER_04I mean, we can still make it work. Like when it when it cuts off there, we can just put two of like every now and again.
SPEAKER_00Uh okay, so I would say our long distance relationship was pretty successful. We didn't have any huge bumps in the road, I don't think.
SPEAKER_04Oh no, we had some bumps.
SPEAKER_00I well I said huge for a reason.
SPEAKER_04Oh yeah, sure. I mean, it wasn't even huge like that, but it was just it it was effective.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so do you think that those situations, which we can get into more detail about later, do you think that those situations were magnified because we were long distance?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was it was still playing on like the um it always comes back to what I need as an individual. So like I think as far as having long distance those situations that played up would have still been there.
SPEAKER_00Right, but what I'm saying is take that situation, put it into a relationship where we live in the same state and we can go see each other all the time, and then compare it to when we were long distance and that situation same situation happening when we were long distance.
SPEAKER_04Are we talking about the same situation? Which one are we talking about?
SPEAKER_00Well, there's only really two that I think of. Is that correct? What you're thinking about?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, um we'll talk I'm thinking preliminary stages like the beginning.
SPEAKER_00The first one.
SPEAKER_04Sure.
SPEAKER_00So what I'm saying is, was it worse? That situation, was it worse because of your long distance, or would it have just been just as bad if we were close approximately?
SPEAKER_04It would have been just as bad.
SPEAKER_00Dear lord, for sure. What about situation number two?
SPEAKER_04That was because of long distance.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because we were even further distance away.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00And that's good to like know also is that we we were long distance for a while, one state away. And then you moved to Miami for a short period of time. Yeah. So we were even further distance away, because it would take a like five-hour flight to get there. And that created a whole other set of obstacles.
SPEAKER_04The boy was going through it. I mean, it wasn't just you and like being long distance and like having even further uh distance apart. It was it was everything. My whole reality changed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sure. But also it didn't help that we were that you were three hours ahead of me. Because then I had a like then it was like when I woke up in the morning at my normal time at 6 a.m. Like, you weren't up.
SPEAKER_04Sure. But I mean, I think if if we're doing long distance, I would prefer to be ahead of you in time.
SPEAKER_00Well, so that you're like on the same-ish schedule as me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Cause you'd be waking waking up hella early. Once I'm into Miami, I'm like, yo, I'm just waking up, you're just waking up. Three-hour distance is good. We're on the same timeline now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but it just felt like our days were so different because you were like in a whole like you're in a whole different segment of your day than I was. When it's breakfast for me, it's lunch for you.
SPEAKER_04When I wake up, life is just life. You know what I mean? It is what it is. It is what it is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, but also like a lot harder for me to get out there to see you. And Vice, you definitely couldn't come see me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't.
SPEAKER_00I mean Because there was not enough time. It was like, if by the time that you traveled to see me in V in California with the length of flight, you would have gotten there and had a date and had to go right back home.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but it all comes back to like being intentional and trying to make it work. I would try like I don't care if I got to spend 10 minutes with you. I will spend that money to let you know, like, hey, I'm trying to make this work and I'm making it work as much as I can. If we can't spend, if we can't spend physical time with each other, at least we're going to be talking and being intentional. Sure. You know what I mean? Like, I will try and show you in every way that I'm committed to you. So I'm like, it don't even matter. It ain't tricking if you got it.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_04Uh but yeah, going back to um being long distance, how often do you think we visited each other?
SPEAKER_00In a month? Or like over the course of time?
SPEAKER_04Sure, in a month.
SPEAKER_00Probably two to three.
SPEAKER_04Two to three times a month we'll see each other.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like bi-weekly. So, yeah, and that's probably because when I got the pay chat, I'm like, okay, I got money. Now I can travel to see you.
SPEAKER_00Well, I traveled way more to see you than you traveled to see.
SPEAKER_04Because you make more money. We are we are in a different class bracket, babe.
SPEAKER_00Uh no. When I lived in LA, I did not make more money than you. Maybe like with bonuses, but really no. I mean, my cost of living was absolutely out of control.
SPEAKER_04Sure.
SPEAKER_00Everything is higher in LA. That's what at the time gas was like six dollars a gallon.
SPEAKER_04But also, you have way more PTO than I did.
SPEAKER_00That's the difference.
SPEAKER_04You could take you could take off time.
SPEAKER_00And I could work from your house. Sure. Because I was given like one day of like just full admin. So that's why it worked out.
SPEAKER_04And I had that. I call it work from home from my job. That's very hard to do.
SPEAKER_00We all well, it's impossible. You can't. Um we also were like completely alone at your house versus at like my apartment. There was a dog and there was roommates, and it was like a lot going on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so it's just best. I'm like, come visit me.
SPEAKER_00Probably trying to like convince me to move here without me even knowing. That's when it all started. That's when the grooming began.
SPEAKER_04Don't don't use that word.
SPEAKER_00That's what it's called. It is called grooming.
SPEAKER_04Okay, it probably is. Can we not use that word? But it was good foreshadowing that you would be moving out here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry. One year later. You ain't got the beach snowballs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's so sad. But I will be but I will be going home quite a bit this summer so I can experience and enjoy the beach. It's like my favorite place to be.
SPEAKER_02Happy for you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. Anyway, okay, so Round Up. What's the last topic that we're talking about when it comes long distance?
SPEAKER_04How often do you physically spend time?
SPEAKER_00It's great. I was trying to segue it. Yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah. It's like a I mean, I think that like us spending physical time definitely was like the highlight of our relationship. It just makes things so much more fun. Like when I don't see you, and not saying that's how I feel now. Like I love waking up every single day next to you. It's very fun.
SPEAKER_04Oh, babe.
SPEAKER_00But when you don't see somebody for like a week to two weeks to three weeks, and then you're like, okay, I get to see that. It's like you're just constantly planning out the next time that you're gonna see them, and there's so much excitement built around you getting together with them again and creating memories.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And also, like, I mean, as Vegas, it can be very scary, but as far as things to do, because see the thing is, I'm like, if you're gonna come out and visit me, I'm gonna make it worth your while. You know what I mean? So I'm like, there's so much that we can get into. So um I'm like, yeah, we can show you this, I can show you that, I can show like we got shows, live entertainment. So every single time you'll come out, I'll I'm like, yo, I there's there's so much I can show you. Yeah, and I'm pretty tapped into the city, so I'm like, I I know a majority of the things that we can do here.
SPEAKER_00We had a great time. We did, we still do, even though I don't really go outside like that.
SPEAKER_04What do you think is like in terms of me introducing or um experiencing Vegas? What do you think is the the best I don't want to say topic genre activity maybe? What was the best thing that you got to experience whilst visiting her visiting her?
SPEAKER_00I mean that's a very hard question to answer. We did so many fun things. I I really I mean the first thing that comes to mind is my birthday. Not this past year, but the year prior, because I was obviously ill this year. Um, but it was before I moved here, I was visiting you here, and it was your like premiere night in a new show as like the main person and doing the stratosphere, even though that's like a very scary place to be, like the being in the restaurant was just like so fun. Did we do something else during that trip? I feel like we did something else. I don't know. I just every birthday that I've had with you and in Vegas has been so fun, and we haven't gone to the club one time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, wow. Wow. We actually we've actually never been to a club together. That is crazy.
SPEAKER_00Is it that is am I the only person that you've ever dated that you haven't gone to the club with before?
SPEAKER_04Technically, yes.
SPEAKER_00Love that, and that's how you married me, because you don't find love in the club.
SPEAKER_04And I also wasn't really dating people like that while I was out here.
SPEAKER_00You okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, that's not necessarily true, but like that, meaning I wasn't like a serial dater. I mean being in relationships. Sorry, what did you mean? Am I the only say that sentence again. Am I the only person who you didn't really go to the club with being in a relationship? Is that what you said? Was I not listening? You gotta play this back.
SPEAKER_00Am I the per am I the only person that you've dated that you haven't been to the club with before?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. I mean, other than my ex, but that's because she wasn't like technically old enough.
SPEAKER_00You guys never went to the club together?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_00Wow.
SPEAKER_04I mean, I think we I don't want to talk about her too much, but I mean, yeah, she was she wasn't exactly of age at the time. Being older than 21, this sounds really bad.
SPEAKER_00She was over the she was over the age of 18, but she was not 21. Right. Okay, that's that's so that you yeah, you don't want to get caught up in a lawsuit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm like that don't sound good at all. We're gonna take this out. No. But yeah, um, yeah, coming to Vegas, you know, you have you have cuisine, you've got gambling, you've got um shows. There's there's a lot of those things. I'm like, yeah, but we've never really been clubbing, and that's because I spent so much years being in a club and I've learned that there's much more out there.
SPEAKER_00I mean, uh that's good for me because I have no intentions. I think I've been to maybe three clubs in my life.
SPEAKER_04Maybe we should go to the club.
SPEAKER_00The only way that I go to the club is if I have a table or someone has a table that I know. Because I'm not waiting in line.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I've never done that. I mean, it ain't about what you know is who you know, maybe and you know me.
SPEAKER_00And I don't really like I don't need to be, I mean to be away from people because then they're like touching, then they're like stepping on your toe, spilling drinks on you. Like, it just is not a good environment.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, good times, good times. Yeah, uh yeah, we could probably make that happen.
SPEAKER_00We might go to the club. After all this, we decide we're gonna go to the club. Okay, so. Is it like t how much time have we been talking?
SPEAKER_04Um It's been 47 minutes.
SPEAKER_00Perfect. Okay, so if we're gonna round this out and someone's considering starting a long distance relationship and you had to give them one piece of advice, what would it be?
SPEAKER_04Don't do it. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_00Don't tell me how you really feel because now we're married from it. So I think it actually worked out to your benefit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. I okay, I would say be intentional. Understand what you're getting in a relationship for, understand who you are, what you need, communicate that with your partner and see how you both can find the middle ground on what you need in order to make your relationship successful. It's just that simple. At least I think it is.
SPEAKER_00So communication is key.
SPEAKER_04Communication. But other than just talking about it, be about it. You know what I mean? If you're like, hey, look, this is what you've told me, but protected time, quality time. I'm like, okay, what the hell that means? I like I'd be on the phone with you, that's it. But I didn't realize that how I could show up for you is just giving you that protected time and being intentional with it. You know what I mean? So it's like you gotta put the action into it, but you have to state what you need.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Communicate, ask questions, and then be okay with expressing what you need. Don't just let it be all on that person's account of the things that they need. Take yourself into consideration also. That's what I would say.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Reciprocity.
SPEAKER_04Reciprocity. I couldn't say that word for the longest. I could not say that word for the longest. You told me that word.
SPEAKER_00It's a great word.
SPEAKER_04Reciprocity is the key for a successful relationship. I am O. In my opinion. Yeah, yeah. Great job. Hey, we go back to those acronyms.
SPEAKER_03I'm learning from you back. I mean you. I'm O. Well, what do you say?
SPEAKER_00That's a great. I I mean, you know, I love reciprocity. It's my favorite thing to say. It's my favorite thing to do. Um, but I think just like being if you're someone who wants it to work or you are like unsure, I think it's important to name that in the very beginning of the relationship. It's something that I wish that we would have talked more about when we first started dating because it was kind of like we just started doing the thing. We didn't really talk about like what we were doing. So it's like, okay, we're gonna visit each other now. And it's like we just happened to fall into like a cadence, which worked for us. But I think the reason it worked is because we were communicating about everything else. So it just we could assume that it worked out for us. Where if maybe communication doesn't come naturally to somebody, I would say talk first about like what your intentions are, and if you think it could work before you invest all the time.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Yeah, because you invested the time, but I also think we both knew deep down that we were each other's persons, so it it worked out for us.
SPEAKER_04You're getting emotional. Um, yeah, it it's just um I I I it doesn't work for everybody. You know what I mean? Well, doesn't just relationships in general. You can't just be like, yeah, copy and paste is gonna work.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Like, I I wanna say this is the first time everything that we've experienced, I haven't experienced before. It's a first for me. And it's because you kind of let that charge. You were you be reading books, listening to podcasts, trying to be better for yourself, which makes you better for the relationship, you know what I mean? And I just took those cues. But you taught me a lot how to show up in a relationship, but I didn't. So I not everyone's gonna have a you in a relationship, but you could be a you, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you could be the you. I mean that's a call to action. But be the you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like be your best version of yourself and don't just think that don't ego trip and think that you got everything covered and figured out. Sometimes you don't know what you don't know, but you have to be open and willing to find out what it is that you could apply to your life to be better for yourself and subsequently better for your partner.
SPEAKER_00Well, and I think that goes back to being open for to the fact that people can change. We're not like sedentary creatures, so it's like who somebody like who you were three years ago is not who you are today.
SPEAKER_01Facts.
SPEAKER_00But if I held you to the same standards of who you were, I could potentially like put parameters on you that wouldn't allow you to grow or like would have not supported us in our relationship moving forward. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04Sure.
SPEAKER_00It's like not having like growth, a growth mindset.
SPEAKER_04Was there any point in us being long distance that you were like, I'm you know, he's not really showing up in the best way for this relationship.
SPEAKER_00No, you always showed up 100% of the time. Never had any questions. You like that? Positive reinforcement.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I I was hoping that you would have something. You know what I mean? It's a show that I wasn't as great as I could be. No, I think I learned at a character development.
SPEAKER_00The thing about you that is your superpower known to me and unbeknownst to others if they don't know you well, is if you get feedback, you can apply it immediately. So it was one of those things where I was like, okay, if I notice something that I don't necessarily like, it's not supporting me or the relationship from my vantage point, I can express that with you and then tell you what I would like instead or what we could try instead, and then you'll immediately try it on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's because I just want to maximize on the best way for you to love me. You know what I mean? Don't let me mess up and then take your love from me.
SPEAKER_00Now we're talking about conditional, conditional love on the next episode of synced out. No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_04Uh it's what we're doing. That's the that's the next relationship, next episode.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Uh heading into this week, what's something that you're looking forward to?
SPEAKER_04Knocking off my goals one by one. Oh my god, we we've got things to do. I've been I've been planning. I have been planning. I'm I'm so excited to accomplish my goals.
SPEAKER_00I'm so excited for this.
SPEAKER_04I'm knocking them all off.
SPEAKER_00Blair's not a planner, so this is actually news to me.
SPEAKER_04You know those planners that they used to give you in like you never touched it. What we used to do was we used to fold the papers. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03We used to fold them joints. That hurts me.
SPEAKER_04Turn them into frisbees, throw that in the bin. Rubbish.
SPEAKER_00The stickler in me is feeling a little bit overwhelmed. But you know, whatever works best for you in the way that you learn, do that.
SPEAKER_02Now, what about you? What are you looking forward to this week?
SPEAKER_00Hmm. Just getting some really clear calendaring out happening. I I think there's a lot of things that are happening right now in my life, and so for like at a work level, um, and so I think for me to be able to calendar things out, so I put a stop on the time for me to accomplish things will be really important so that I don't let things bleed over and not things get accomplished. So, like making sure I have enough time for you and like putting it in my calendar. I know that sounds very scary for you, but I like have to block it out, otherwise it just won't get done.
SPEAKER_04Pencil me into your schedule, damn it.
SPEAKER_00Every day. It's non-negotiable. I love you.
SPEAKER_04I love you, Ma.
SPEAKER_00I'm excited for this week. And I'm excited for episode number two. Look at us.
SPEAKER_04I think we were I think it went well. I haven't checked so too. I haven't checked the footage, we haven't checked the the uh sounds, but I think we did it better this time.
SPEAKER_00We did agree.
SPEAKER_04We're gonna actually have something to show people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They're gonna be like, what is he wearing? Vintage, baby.
SPEAKER_00Come on now. Uh the fact that we haven't even showered from the gym is like what's most egregious.
SPEAKER_04We gotta tell them that.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm telling them because I haven't.
SPEAKER_04We were strapped for time. We I'm like, we we need to get this going.
SPEAKER_00We're busy. Uh and we're busy the rest of the day. But I love you. I hope you have a great week.
SPEAKER_04Likewise, my love.
SPEAKER_00And same time next week?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, sure. Why not?
SPEAKER_03Pencil me into your schedule.
SPEAKER_00You're already there.
SPEAKER_03All right. Bye. Is that how we sign off? Bye.
SPEAKER_00Um, well, last time we said what our Insta and TikTok themes were.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yes. Ladies first.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, I only have an Instagram, so you can follow me at Kalea Michaela. That is K-H-A-L-I-A-M-A-K-A-E-L A.
SPEAKER_04That's a whole lot of A's.
SPEAKER_00Well, I wanted to be Khalia Edwards, but first of all, it's like taken, so I can't be that.
SPEAKER_04Who the I ain't related to nobody like that. No, I'm messing around. Um, my Instagram, Mr. Blair Edwards. Uh, find me on TikTok. Black British Guy. I'm being very intentional. Okay. I'm I'm coming for that zillennial growth. All right. You're gonna be seeing a lot of clips. We're coming for it.
SPEAKER_00Let's just hope that TikTok doesn't get taken away um based on the legislation.
SPEAKER_04I ain't got no dug in that fight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, me either. Above my pay grade, but let's just hope. Fingers crossed.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_00I love you.
SPEAKER_04Love you more, baby. Wow.
SPEAKER_00Bye.