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Open Marriage Podcast
Preparing for Our First Baby: Baby Shower & Registry Talk
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In this episode of the Open Marriage Podcast, Blair and Khalia settle into another candid Sunday conversation as they prepare for one of the biggest transitions of their lives...becoming parents.
With their first baby showers only days away, the couple reflects on the meaning of community, the emotional experience of having friends and family show up for their growing family, and the unexpected realities of building a baby registry. They also talk about the practical side of preparing for a child while still living in a one-bedroom apartment and their hopes of moving into a larger home before the baby arrives.
The conversation moves between humor and reflection as they discuss childhood books they hope to share with their child, the small rituals that shaped their own upbringing, and what it means to build a supportive “village” around a new family. Blair shares his evolving mindset about fatherhood, responsibility, and learning to trust that the instincts of parenting will come when the time arrives.
Later in the episode, the couple dives into pop culture and relationship dynamics, reacting to the latest Love Is Blind reunion and discussing what reality dating shows reveal, and often miss, about healthy relationships.
The discussion expands into a broader debate about age gaps in dating, maturity, and how people navigate compatibility and long-term partnership.
Blending humor, honesty, and real-life perspective, this episode explores what it looks like to prepare for parenthood while continuing to learn, grow, and challenge each other inside a marriage.
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SPEAKER_00Okay, my iPad so I can keep track of time.
SPEAKER_02All day I've been trying to play with you and you don't want to play back.
SPEAKER_00Stop touching me. No, it's good that we It's good that we have connection that you always touch me.
SPEAKER_02That sounds really inappropriate.
SPEAKER_00What do you mean? We're married.
SPEAKER_02So?
SPEAKER_00You can't touch me?
SPEAKER_02I don't know, can I? I need your consent.
SPEAKER_00Remember what you told me actually. Oh, awkward.
SPEAKER_02Say it with your chest. Say it with your chest.
SPEAKER_00No, just saying that. Um. Remember when you told me I don't really need consent with you because you're married to me?
SPEAKER_02Sure. When was this? I think after we first got married.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think it was like in the beginning stages.
SPEAKER_02Of our relationship or of our marriage?
SPEAKER_00In our marriage.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's um propaganda.
SPEAKER_00What's propaganda?
SPEAKER_02Me saying that.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, that is not true. I still need your consent. It doesn't matter if we're married.
SPEAKER_02Correct. What I was trying to get away. What I was trying to say is I've never experienced a moment where I didn't want to be touched by you. And if it was the case, I would just be like, hey, I'm feeling really hot or something right now, or really annoyed. And then you'll leave me alone.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02I've only said that like twice.
SPEAKER_00And tuck my tails in between my lips. You have multiple tails? Yes. Two of them. Okay, dude.
SPEAKER_02You little sicko.
SPEAKER_00And then run into the corner and I just whimper until you let me back out.
SPEAKER_02That's not how it works. But anyhow. I'm trying to be playful and you want no parts of it today. It's okay.
SPEAKER_00Why do you think that is? Because you hate me.
SPEAKER_02Why is that? You tell me.
SPEAKER_00I already told you how I like to be touched.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. On the arm on the leg.
SPEAKER_00Don't do nice like says it. Touch me like this.
SPEAKER_02Okay, but I got feedback that I did it too hard one time.
SPEAKER_00No, I've never told you that.
SPEAKER_02You don't recall?
SPEAKER_00I've never told you that.
SPEAKER_02You have?
SPEAKER_00When?
SPEAKER_02You said I gripsed too hard.
SPEAKER_00That's way different from how you just touch me naturally.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I'm supposed to be touching you like That's better.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's not hard, rough.
SPEAKER_00I'm a man.
SPEAKER_02No, it's supposed to be like nice. Like touches like this.
SPEAKER_00I am not a dog. Do not pet me.
SPEAKER_02No, I don't. I just go like this.
SPEAKER_00See? No. No, no, no, no. Get off.
SPEAKER_02It's because you don't like when I start doing like this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_02I get a kick out of it.
SPEAKER_00I know you do. I don't. I get a kick out of you getting a kick out of it. And you're like, you don't want me to touch you. I want you to. Just not like that.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Well, can you do that on your arm how you want me to touch you? Ew, bro. My arm almost went down to the ground. It was so heavy.
SPEAKER_00You're welcome.
SPEAKER_02Alright. We made it back. We haven't released any episodes, so I don't know if this will be one of those um episodes that the web never sees, but in case you all see it. Welcome back. You got it?
SPEAKER_00No, stop doing that. Follow through, baby. Follow through. You're so fantastic at this. Please introduce us to our friends.
SPEAKER_02Welcome back to another episode of the open marriage podcast. We're your hosts, Blair and Kalia, Edwards, and Baby Edwards in here.
SPEAKER_00Baby Edwards.
SPEAKER_02For the next few weeks, actually. Um, and we are not in open marriage, as you already know. Uh, but we do talk about all things marriage, relationships, and current events. So here we are. Happy Sunday.
SPEAKER_00Happy Sunday indeed. Um, baby, that was fantastic.
SPEAKER_02Thanks.
SPEAKER_00How did that feel?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it felt fine.
SPEAKER_00I didn't do the extras. You don't need to do the extras. Everything you do is just perfect. Thank you. Like Goldilocks. And and the middle porridge.
SPEAKER_02That's gotta be like some story that we cannot read our kid for some reason. I think it's probably cancelled.
SPEAKER_00Speaking of, this baby shower was coming up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, six days.
SPEAKER_00And you had a very great idea in terms of instead of these um, you know, the cards that people get, they write a little note. You said instead of cards, we would like you to bring your children's story in.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, actually, I didn't make it up. The person who's hosting our baby shower did. Oh, shout out. They offered it as an option, and I was like, honestly, that's a great idea.
SPEAKER_00That is a great idea. Yeah. Shout out, that's that's beautiful. Yeah. Um, speaking of, if you were to go to someone's baby shower, what book would you bring?
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I was just talking about this. It depends on whose baby shower we're attending, but uh I think you might actually know this story because when I was growing up, I we grew up in the suburbs, obviously, both of us just in opposite sides of the country. And when I would go to the pool, because I love to be in the water, my hair just wouldn't lay down because it was curly. So then I started hating my hair. I was like, oh, why is it like curly like this? Why is it not laying down? What is this? Why do you have to wear it like so many different I can't just wake up and go to school? So my mom bought me this book called Do you remember what it's called?
SPEAKER_00Don't touch my hair.
SPEAKER_02No, Happy Nappy Hair Book. And that became like my favorite. We read it basically every single night until I learned to love my hair, or at least like it.
SPEAKER_00That's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02So I think if it's a black kid, then I would get them that book. And uh the other book that I really love, I think I just showed it to you, is Prudence Takes a Potty. It's a potty training book.
SPEAKER_00I think you mentioned that, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's just like a really it's it's illustrated really well. It's simple, it's a red cover, and essentially it just talks about how prudence sits and sits and sits and sits and sits at like every page has like multiple sits on it until she actually can go poop and then there they show the toilet with like the poop inside. I don't know, kids like poop, you know, it's like cool to like get kids to use the restroom finally on their own. It's like a it's like a coming of age story, so I like it.
SPEAKER_00I love that. That's beautiful.
SPEAKER_02Thanks. What about you?
SPEAKER_00For some reason, as I think back to my childhood, I can't remember any children's book story except for one. And I don't even know if this is like an actual bedtime story, but I think I remember reading it in primary school. You ever seen this book? It's um a little bit longer, but it's a book about a caterpillar.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00That book. Whatever the name of that book is called, I want that book.
SPEAKER_02What is that book called?
SPEAKER_00I don't know, but I think it's it alludes to you know caterpillar eating things and then after a while it goes into a cocoon and then it transforms into butterfly. I'm like mind-blown. What is that?
SPEAKER_02And the illustrations are really good too. Also, have you ever heard Red Brother Wild things are?
SPEAKER_00I I'm seeing a fussy sasquatch looking thing with like two horns. Is that what it is? No, I've never read it.
SPEAKER_02It's gonna be so fun because there's so many books that you haven't read or don't think that uh you've read, and we'll read all of them together because they're so fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I that's why I'm really looking forward to this uh baby shower because everyone has a different book that they like. Um I I hope people aren't worried about duplicates, but the whole aspect of you know having a baby shower and having the people that are closest to you in your community to bring a book that they like is kind of like your community, like the village reading your children a bedtime story. So I I think that's really beautiful. I can't wait to see what people bring.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's gonna be really fun. We're excited. Also, just can we just get some cooler weather, please? Maybe like a little wind breeze. It's gonna be hot toasty.
SPEAKER_00Vegas. We turn it back up. You you never seem to disappoint.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. But we got this one and we got one more. The other one's about a month away.
SPEAKER_00Shout out. There's a lot of baby showers. I'm uh, what do you think is gonna be the difference, the biggest difference between the baby shower in California and the baby shower in Vegas?
SPEAKER_02The baby shower in California will be a lot of you meeting and greeting people. Because there's people that you probably have never met before that are gonna be there. Uh so yeah, it's gonna be a lot you're gonna be more of a center of attention, I think.
SPEAKER_00Me? Yeah. I don't think I'm gonna be the center of attention. You will that baby is. Well, the baby's not out.
SPEAKER_02Baby's not out yet, but uh typically at a baby shower, it's like women only. We're not doing that gender thing. I just think it's silly. Not doing like kids, no kids allowed. There's a kid in here. Uh, but I do think that the baby shower in California will be a lot will be a lot more like chatting, connecting, talking. Because everyone who's coming to our baby shower here is a lot of it's your friends.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like I would say out of the 45 people, 30 of them are your friends.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I think um, and this is something that I was alluding to earlier. I'm still trying to figure out my my uh value system and how I relate to people and community and all those kind of things. Because having the the concept of a baby shower for me is still kind of wild. I mean, like it makes sense, you know, to have community right now, but I I've all I've always kind of felt slightly isolated and different and othered. So to have people come around to that care about you and care about your family, um, I'm still kind of like this is different, but um, I'm excited for it. But I am excited for the one in California. Uh even though you think I don't really like to talk to people and I have black cat energy. I'm I'm ready to rally.
SPEAKER_02We do have black cat energy.
SPEAKER_00Yes. But these are our people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be great. And it's out in our favorite restaurants, and it kind of is like a um it's become like a really important family meeting place. We've had a lot of birthdays there. My going away party when I moved to Vegas was there, my dad's 50th was there, the baby shower's there. I've been going there since I was probably ten.
SPEAKER_00So it's it's within the family. Yeah. It's a f it's a family affair.
SPEAKER_02What is that song? I have no idea. I just went to the Okay. I was like, am I supposed to know this? Uh yeah, but I'm stoked for it. It'll be great.
SPEAKER_00It's interesting, like like I said, it's first time me being a parent. How about you?
SPEAKER_02Same.
SPEAKER_00Oh, excellent. Okay, cool. Um, but yeah, the aspect of having a baby registry and you put a bunch of things down there, and then you're seeing real time, you're like, oh, such and such bought this and such and such bought that. I'm like, damn, I was prepared to buy everything for my for our child.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and and truth be told, we could have done that. And I think it's also weird for me to do too, because we didn't have a wedding, we didn't like have a big wedding, so we didn't have a wedding registry. Typically, you have one for your wedding. Do you know that?
SPEAKER_00You do?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Shout out. So plates and kitchen aid mixer, things for your home is typically what's on your wedding registry, and we obviously didn't have one of those. So yeah, I it's it is a weird concept to put something that costs six hundred dollars on a registry or thousands of dollars for a stroller, but the beauty of that is that people can come together and pitch-in for a gift instead of us p buying one whole big thing, and whatever's left over, we'll just buy it. Yeah, but I I doubt with having two baby showers with this many attendees that we'll have much that we have to purchase. Uh, and every a couple things here and there. Obviously, I bought a couple things just that I liked and that I thought were cute.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I've I've been seeing you fill up that little basket in our wardrobe with different things for the baby. You have a lot of cute things in there. What was that? Um, what was that one thing that you you you just got like a uh 100% cotton uh onesie or something like that, like pajama. And remember when I held it up and I pretended to throw it up in the air. Yeah. Yeah, you do a good job.
SPEAKER_02You probably will. Yeah, I probably will. Yeah, exactly. Can't trust him. That'll be fine. That'd be great.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna be a beautiful time. I um I'm looking forward to it. I feel like we probably should have probably should have put it out there earlier. Let's start hitting up these brands. Any brands you want to send us some things? We we prefer organic things, 100% cotton. If it's on what what list? The EWG list or something like that. If it's on there, go ahead and go ahead and ship the ship it out to us. We will take it. You know what I mean? New parents, shout out, appreciate you.
SPEAKER_02You're funny, you're so funny. Uh okay, so what's up? What's new with you? I feel like we haven't chatted in a while.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know. We've just been ships, ship, uh, what is it called? Passing ships in the night.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I I'm I'm well, baby. I'm well. I I'm starting to read the the birth partner.
SPEAKER_02You are?
SPEAKER_00No, but I just wanted to say you get away with this if you haven't been seeing me. Uh but you know, I'm gonna start to read it. Um no, I've been well. I I think that I there's a lot of people around me that have been like, oh my god, when does she do? I'm like, end of nature. Oh my god, it's so soon.
SPEAKER_02I said, Relax, relax, relax.
SPEAKER_00Please. Um, but I I am as as my palms start to sweat, I'm not as scared. You know, I'm not as scared. I'm I just hone in and anchor in my appreciation for you and the acceptance that though it's gonna be a new experience for us. I I trust that something will click for me to be like, oh, this is what I need to do for my child, you know, this is what I need to do for you. So that's what I'm looking forward to. Um what's been you? Yeah, we we just sent up for this year, set up last year. We did taxes. Oh, that was such a good time. You met my tax guy?
SPEAKER_02No, I didn't meet him. We've I've been with TV in taxes.
SPEAKER_00Okay, what I meant to say is so I've been in Vegas for like 10 plus years, and I've been going to the same tax guy. He's seen me since I was like 21 years old, and now I'm 32. Wife on my arm, children in the summer. He's like, Yeah, yeah, that that's that's gonna be a nice little package because you know, incentives for a child. Uh of like this is so rarely meaningfully tax deductible deductible.
SPEAKER_02We're like, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's so great. And and we're gonna need you around for many more years, huh? Um, but it's it's uh it's great to experience all of that, you know. Um, what else has been happening?
SPEAKER_02We're really, really, really hoping and manifesting this house that we really want to get. And tomorrow's the day that we find out, hopefully.
SPEAKER_00These are my requirements for this house. Because right now we're in a one-bedroom apartment, very nice place, very, very bougie. Yes, it's very nice. I would I'll probably do like a 360 once we leave, you know what I mean. But we don't really want to want people to know where we'd be living like that. But anyway, it's a one-bedroom, it's very nice. Clear is the one that was like, we we need to be moving in here. We've had a great time been here for almost like three years, but this is what I need. Three bedroom bridge, three bedroom, at least two boss, two and a half if you're if you're feeling nasty. We need a two-car garage. We need what we need is space. That's what we need. Now don't get me wrong. That's what Blair wants. That's what I want. I need my own space. I I I love you. I wanna you know me, I want to be all up underneath you, baby.
SPEAKER_01Are you sure?
SPEAKER_0024 24 CM Even a leap years. What is it? 20 24-8? No, look, I don't know. Anyway, I I want to be around you 24-7, but if I can find time for a work area, for creative space, a space for the baby too, and you know, you know, mom and dad's gonna be around here. We we we don't need to be buying hotels or finding rental properties. We want them to stay up in the house, but we don't want them to be on no air mattress. Correct. They need their own bedroom, they deserve mom and dad. You deserve your own bedroom. But I need my own bedroom too.
SPEAKER_02So we're looking for Blair's gonna sleep separately from me and the baby.
SPEAKER_00What what is that called? It's um where divorce. No. No, no, no, no. Okay. It's it's where um is it it's not cohabitant, but it's like when parents sleep in like different rooms, but they're like still together. I know it's nothing like bad. Maybe you can answer in the comments.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if there's a word a clinical term for it. I think it means divorce. If you ever move to a different room and don't sleep with me, that's telling me that you want a divorce.
SPEAKER_00What if it's telling you that I just don't want to wake you? What? I'd be coming home late.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what you do. I'm asleep.
SPEAKER_00You do be nine. Like, for example, yesterday I came home. Did you know what it's like coming home to this beautiful woman every night? It's so sweet. I because you know the boy works in the street late night. I come home, you got the TV on, probably night agent on or something like that. But then when I look parent to the dark apartment, and I can just see the silhouette of somebody on the couch, then as I walk a little closer, I realize it's my wife. And she's like this, just sleeping so peacefully, and I feel so bad because she's just trying to wear up for me, not to see me at the night, and it's always the same time because you understand the sound, the click of the TV when I go click, she goes like this.
SPEAKER_02I hate when you do those eyes, dude. Hi. Why are you doing that?
SPEAKER_00That's what you do.
SPEAKER_02Let me rake.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she be scratching the skin. You gotta be careful with that, baby.
SPEAKER_02Why? I didn't bust any like blood out.
SPEAKER_00Not yet. Anywho, um, but yeah, so all in all, I just want to come home. If you're if you're asleep, I don't want to disturb you. Maybe I can go to my little man cave, maybe work on some things, work on the podcast.
SPEAKER_02It just make it just means that you have more opportunity to not go to sleep.
SPEAKER_00Night owls unite! I want to play my arc raiders 24-7.
SPEAKER_02With a baby on your chest.
SPEAKER_00Yes. But let me show you how we do.
SPEAKER_02And then you're shaking the baby because when I was lying on you the other night and you're playing your game, you're I was being shaken. Shaken baby syndrome.
SPEAKER_00At least I'm not one of those kinds of players that when something bad happens, they like throw the controllers.
SPEAKER_02We wouldn't be married.
SPEAKER_00Huh?
SPEAKER_02Huh?
SPEAKER_00I thought you accept me. I do. For sick or for worse, rich or poor. Broken controllers or not.
SPEAKER_02No, for who you are right now. Yes.
SPEAKER_00So if I changed.
SPEAKER_02If you try throwing controllers at the wall, then you get to see a therapist. That's anger management. That needs to happen.
SPEAKER_00I think that's kind of healthy. I'm using an outlet that doesn't hurt other people or myself. It just hurts my controllers.
SPEAKER_02It's gonna hurt the structure.
SPEAKER_00The structure of what?
SPEAKER_02Wherever you're heading.
SPEAKER_00Hurt the structure. It's true, I ain't got no feelings. Alright, anyway. Um, but yeah, so we're looking for a new place. Should be coming up relatively soon. Hey, springtime. It's a time for change, starting new things. Uh it's gonna be a beautiful time. And um, yeah, that's me. What else? What else you got going on over there?
SPEAKER_02I it's just uh time to get things organized and set up. I got a couple things on my to-do list, but really it's just been checking off boxes of stuff to do. Eating uh as much as I can and with as much caloric intentionality that I can.
SPEAKER_00Eating for two.
SPEAKER_02Not eating for two, but just being more cognizant of what I'm eating and the vitamins and things that come in the foods that I'm having. And yeah, I there's just a lot of things that I need to do. I gotta get some clothes donated today. Um Yeah, just a bunch of to do items. But some things have been knocked off the list and other things will be done this week and then we'll be ready to go.
SPEAKER_00Anything you can add to the honey do list?
SPEAKER_02Honey do list. Hmm.
SPEAKER_00That I can do for you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, your honey do list will be to take care of your clothes. I'm gonna go through them today. Organize them, take mine to goodwill because I don't need to pay get paid for them. And then you can bring yours to Buffalo Exchange.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Sounds good.
SPEAKER_02But other than that, no? Just time to like purge. Get rid of the old socks and the real old underwear, get new ones. We got new pajama sets coming in. It's time to start gathering items for the hospital bag that we can have for ourselves.
SPEAKER_00Would this be considered preliminary urges for nesting?
SPEAKER_02Probably, yeah. But I also can't really nest because we don't have the space for me to nest right now. So the nesting will probably start after the baby shower and once we move.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm assuming. Once we get into the new house, I think I'll start nesting.
SPEAKER_00Yes. We can both be nest and hit the ground runner with it.
SPEAKER_02But the one the two things I'm not doing is I'm not moving stuff anywhere. Someone will do that for us, and I'm not cleaning.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So this is why I wanted to ask about, and this might be a slight segue. Um, when it comes to us moving, are there people that professionally pack for us also? Would you prefer that? Or do you want us to take care of that stuff?
SPEAKER_02So there's garment boxes where they can basically take your hangers and they have like a rod into the box. Remember how mine keeps it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So they will do your clothes for you. Everything in our baskets we'll take, so like undergarments, things like that. We can pack that ourselves. And then they will do all the furniture. So everything else is like our responsibility, everything in the cabinets. So basically, what I'll do is start getting boxes from work, start putting things in boxes, start labeling it, and then they will, once they wrap everything, they'll then move boxes. So when they get here, everything just needs to be packed up and ready outside of the furniture. And then they'll wrap everything else and bring it.
SPEAKER_00Perfect. I like that.
SPEAKER_02And unload it and put it in whatever room you want.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm not doing that.
SPEAKER_00Well, we only have a one bedroom, so I there isn't a lot of things to take care of, but it should be relatively seamless. I was just thinking when it comes to these TVs and a couch and a table, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they'll take care of it. The TV, I I didn't have a TV that I brought with me, so I don't know how that works, but I would assume that they would they would unmount it and take it off the wall.
SPEAKER_00What about like the holes and everything like that? Will they spackle?
SPEAKER_02We have to do that. Takes five seconds. They might if I asked them, if I paid them to.
SPEAKER_00Should be done.
SPEAKER_02Also, that's the only those are the only big holes that we have in the house. It's just the TVs. Yeah. Because these holes are tiny.
SPEAKER_00Okay. But yeah, so um a couple things to do. You let me know what I can do, help, help with you, because it's hourless together.
SPEAKER_02Hours. Yeah, nice. Hours and hours. Yeah. So it'll be a great time.
SPEAKER_00Shout out, shout out, shout out. Okay, so um, what time is it? We've been talking for about twenty twenty four-fo minutes. Um what else do you want to? Is there anything else you would like to address before we get into some uh you know, I love talking about TV shows and media and all that good stuff.
SPEAKER_02You were saying something before we hopped in the podcast, and you're like, I'm gonna say it for the podcast, but I don't know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00If it comes to mind, just go ahead and chime in.
SPEAKER_02No, it was you that said it now.
SPEAKER_00I don't remember if if it comes up though. Who knows? Okay, um, let's let's get into some of these uh TV shows.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00There's a couple things on Netflix that I've been seeing, but I'm like, look, this kind of deals with you know um with marriage and relationships and whatnot, but I don't even know if you're even interested in possibly watching this stuff. Like, for example, um, so we finished Love is Blind. Actually, maybe you can speak a little bit about Love is Blind. How'd you think we saw the reunion? Thumbs up, thumbs down.
SPEAKER_02The reunion actually wasn't bad, even though the season sucked. Again, I there's no way this show does not get cancelled. And also, why do they have one in every single country now? Have you been seeing that?
SPEAKER_00I have, yeah. I think I've seen Love is Blind Habibi. Yes, yeah. Masha La.
SPEAKER_02I did see Habibi. I was screaming. Uh yeah, so Better Reunion than the actual season. However, just mental unwellness across the board. Yeah. And I I have no words for the casts that have been chosen the last few times. They need to fire everybody that is in charge of the show at Netflix and rehire people if they want it to survive. It just isn't good. And the people are there's one couple that ends up being married. It just is trash, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I'm happy for Jess though. She found her doctor, even though his eyes were straight out.
SPEAKER_00Bless you.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. His eyes were. I love you, Jess. Do it. No, it's yeah, it was so big and so scary.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I think when we were watching Love is Blind, we were hoping that the answer the question can be answered that love is blind, but um love is not enough to have people in commitments, opposedly, supposedly, which is kind of sad to think. And I think you're right, you hit the nail on the head when it comes to um some of these uh emotionally unstable people. I think that we need more shows that are kind of geared towards therapy, um relationship building, those kind of things. That's why there's another show that just came out on Netflix, it's called Blue Therapy. Um, it's I haven't watched it, but it's kind of reminiscent, at least ignorantly, because I haven't watched it. It's kind of like couples therapy, where it like takes a bunch of different couples. Yeah, but as far as like how people navigate, I I think we we need to have viewership of information that helps towards building healthy relationships. For example, our favorite show, shrinking, thank thank God for shrinking, because that is a therapy session in each episode, and not heavy, you need therapy and humor, but they like they drop like real poignant like mindsets and universal wisdom that can help towards certain dynamics and relationships. I'm like, this is great, we need that on Netflix. Shout out Apple TV. Um, but I I think we need more of that, and not just relationship uh TV shows about toxic ones, you know. I mean, it's I'm not there for the drama, you know. I mean, I'm there for breakthroughs, I'm there that I can walk away with something and be like, oh, I've actually learned, oh, maybe I'm going through something like this, maybe I can implement those tools for my relationship and whatnot. Sure. But when it comes to love is blind, which is bad. I'm just looking at these people, I'm like, can you not see these very unhealthy habits? Like, for example, D.Va. So I'm a gun.
SPEAKER_02Why do they start calling him that?
SPEAKER_00Apparently, that's his nickname. Uh I saw something online where someone said that's his like nickname for his like different version of himself or some some shit like that.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I'll show it to you later. Uh or I might put it up here. Um, but the aspect of I I think in the reunion his behavior was addressed in the reunion, which I'm like, okay, fine, a little too late for this, but it's the aspect of gaslighting, and I'm going to put my hands up and say, you know what? I have been guilty of doing this too. Really? In my previous aspects.
SPEAKER_02Not with me.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, no. We were straight up with you. But it's this aspect of like, if you know something isn't going right, instead of saying, Oh yeah, you know, I want it to work out, oh, I see the potential of it working out, but you but you don't feel that way genuinely fully, and then you don't take action to work towards that. Effectively, you're gaslighting, you're trying to make someone believe in a narrative. You're like, oh no, but I believe it too. But you're not doing, but you're not putting in the action to work towards that, you're gaslighting people. And fellas, ladies, let's not lead people straight, let's not lead them on. If you're not feeling something, just cut it off. Just do that instead of trying to not like let the person down easy. Like, I I can understand like ignorantly, that's a good thing to do, to care about somebody's feelings, but not for the sake of letting them believe in some lies that you're trying to spin. Just call it what it is. You're not interested, you don't want to keep the thing going. Kite off, be done with it. Let that person move on. And she's not the only and he's not the only person that was going through some things. I'm like, damn, if some person was going through some things.
SPEAKER_02What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00Like your home girl, what's her name? Amber?
SPEAKER_02That's not my girl.
SPEAKER_00I mean, she's your girl. You're her girl. She was all about the ladies, sticking up for the ladies and whatnot.
SPEAKER_02And okay, this could be a controversial opinion, but any girl that's so for the girls that they completely ignore or take any responsibility for their actions is not for the girls.
SPEAKER_00I I I'm picking up what you're putting down. I can understand what you're saying.
SPEAKER_02Because you can't just go so far one direction and be like, I'm just girls no matter what. It's kind of like when you're little and you're and everyone says boy power or girl power, and no matter what, you're like, boys are stupid, they stink. You just like make up all these things, but they you don't ever self-reflect about the ways in which you have deficiencies. That's okay when you're small, it's not okay when you're old.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_02Because you'll end up single. Yeah, I mean they called her a man hater. That's not something to be proud of.
SPEAKER_00If I could play devil's advocate, I don't want to advocate for the devil or anything. We don't advocate for devils around him, but if we want to say like the biggest scope of things, one could argue And it's the system of patriarchy, you know, and it's it's a top, it's trick, what is it called? Trickle-down economics where something happens at the top and it affects everybody else. So it's like, yeah, from the things that she's experienced, not all men are responsible for her trauma and her hate. However, there are some things inherently embedded in our society that could lead someone to have a natural reaction to how things go in. For example, um, leading someone to be like, I hate man, you know what I mean? Sure. Um, but what I'm saying though is like, yes, you can be aware of how you feel, but then also take into account like your behavior and taking accountability from how you react to certain things, thusly, Amber, girl, I understand. You, you know, you gotta work on your your shit, you gotta work on your stuff, I get it. But I myself have been in a toxic relationship also, and I've had someone say, like, they they just needed someone to be there for them, you know, uh understood, help them understand that they are loved, they're appreciated, but they also have things to work on. Sometimes you can't be that person to be with them while they work on those things. Sometimes they need to do that shit alone, you know. So when she's like, you didn't give me time, he's like, Yeah, we've been together two, four months. What are you talking about? How much time am I supposed to give you? And then can like continue to be disrespected, felt ostracized, all that kind of stuff. Like, how am I supposed to be her? Like, how am I supposed to help you? Everyone in the audience was like, he's not wrong. But you can't outwardly be like, bitch, get your shit together.
SPEAKER_02Also, don't come on the show after a year of us seeing you on camera looking like a a dead Elsa. That's what I don't understand.
SPEAKER_00A dead Elsa is actually kind of crazy. I I will say though, um, she she did receive a lot of like flack for her appearance, so I'm not gonna like feed into that narrative.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it everyone was just perplexed of what happened.
SPEAKER_00I you know, you know what my theory is. I mean, that's what happens when you have you have uh mental obstacles that you're not you know, like if you're constantly thinking bad things is gonna like affect you physically.
SPEAKER_02Or if you're you're under if your inside's ugly, outside's ugly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's like it's like um you know that um that experiment where you take two plants and you say nothing but good things to one plant, you say nothing but bad things to another plant, and you can see one plant actually decaying more than the other.
SPEAKER_02Shaking up plants, yeah. You haven't been saying good things to your plant.
SPEAKER_00I haven't been saying good things lately, but I I do have good energy.
SPEAKER_02What?
SPEAKER_00You're good, you're beautiful, you're good, love. But what I'm saying is for her, I I feel like she was affected by the things that she's you know experienced and hasn't been able to work through that, and that's why she looks the way that she looks. Maybe sure bro science, mansplaining. Don't take my word for it. I think every single one of you are beautiful, but maybe you should do some internal work, and then it might reflect out outwardly also. That was my way of cleaning up, just in case I came across as a misogynist or some shit.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I said worse things than you did, so but yeah, but you're a lady, so yeah. Well, it is what it is. Alright, so that was love is blind.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, what else? What else?
SPEAKER_02Age of attraction.
SPEAKER_00Age of attraction.
SPEAKER_02Do we have time to watch one today or no? Yeah, of course. Okay, what time are you going to work?
SPEAKER_00Later. Don't even worry about that. Because I fell asleep.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I fell asleep, but it's so cringe, it's so entertaining though, and I'm really invested.
SPEAKER_00So they're like, okay, forget about whether love is blind. Is age just a number? Uh thoughts? What the what for the question? How do you feel? Do you feel like age is just a number?
SPEAKER_02In some cases, yes, but I think it just it's just a it just depends on a lot of different variables. For example, let me ask you this question. How old, how much older than you currently would you go, would you date, and how much younger would you date?
SPEAKER_00At this age, right now, at 32?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00For my partner? Because I I have to have respect for a woman's biological clock. It would depend on if she's trying to have kids.
SPEAKER_02Let's say like the person doesn't care one way or another. They if they're older, they don't care if they have kids or they don't have kids. If they're younger, they're just they don't care either way.
SPEAKER_00If it's you, I'll date you until you're 90 years old.
SPEAKER_02It's not me. You're not married to me. Everyone else. Like, what's the oldest and what's the youngest?
SPEAKER_00I think the oldest I would go for me as a 32-year-old man, 34, 35, if she's fantastic, spectacular. Mind you, that's the oldest you'd go? If it's you, I if you were like, if I came across you when you was like 60 or 70 years old, I'd be like, I'm bagging that. Like, that's me right there. Yeah. I'm saying, but if it's not you, I just can't imagine any woman that's quite like you. But I would allow 34 to 35 years old. Youngest.
SPEAKER_02It's not really that old.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02I feel like you liked older women before you dated me.
SPEAKER_00But that's because when I was like 19, 20, I was dating women that were like 26, 27.
SPEAKER_02Right. So by that logic, you should be dating if you if right now you're 32, then you should want to date like a 40-year-old.
SPEAKER_00I think it's okay. First of all, context. They were in their 20s, and I was a young man.
SPEAKER_02They were in their late 20s, and you were had even you're in your teenage. You're in your teenage years.
SPEAKER_00I think if I okay, first of all, not teenage. 19, 19 age. Look, those ladies I dated that were in their like late-ish. Those ladies. Very nice ladies, cool. But I now knowing what I know now about myself, I don't want to say anything misogynistic, but I just can't imagine dating a woman like in their 40s.
SPEAKER_02Really? Why not? You're very mature.
SPEAKER_00I I I I know that, but I'm thinking bigger picture. I'm thinking family. I'm thinking how we relate.
SPEAKER_02Because you want kids.
SPEAKER_00Um, I I want the opportunity for them. I'm not saying a woman needs to carry my kids, but I just I'm I just don't think that a 40-year-old woman that is single and that I'm now starting to date is gonna be like, yes, I want to have kids now. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02I just don't know if that's but if they did, you'd be able to.
SPEAKER_00If they did, well, if it's you, yes.
SPEAKER_02Like I'm not me, dog. Not me.
SPEAKER_00If it ain't you, what we talking about.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so what's the youngest you go?
SPEAKER_00Youngest.
SPEAKER_02See the 35 is the oldest.
SPEAKER_00For me, uh, I would say arrest like look at your hands. 28 25, maybe 20. Oh, that's really young. To date. Now, date is like being invested in that person, like we're working towards more.
SPEAKER_02They just graduated college two years ago.
SPEAKER_00Like, if I if there's one thing that I've learned is age does not dictate maturity.
SPEAKER_02In always, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Not always. That being said, it would have to be of a particular kind of 25 or 24 year old. It's not just 24. Now, if I'm just if I'm just boinking, you can be as young as 21, go all the way up until 50. If you got it going on, shout out to the MILFs out there. Shout out to the gifts.
SPEAKER_02The term boinking, what is that?
SPEAKER_00Ew. Anywho, I I can make it work with just about anybody, but nobody's you. So, you know.
SPEAKER_02But if we're thinking dating, you have to think 24 to 35 is your range.
SPEAKER_0024 to 25, as low as possible.
SPEAKER_02It's about a 10-year, a 10-year plus or minus swing on either side.
SPEAKER_00Because I unfortunately, under the system of patriarchy, you know, me being a man and my my biological clock, I can have kids with whoever at any age. Um, but I just know that that's might not be the same thing. That's why I just want to reiterate, also at the same time, what we're talking about. Not just using them for their body and a good time. You know? So I would hope that someone 24, 25, would kind of have some sense of self.
SPEAKER_02Probably 25.
SPEAKER_0025 then. Sense of self, understanding where they're going in the future. You don't have to have all the answers, but you need to have something to build with instead of being a knucklehead. Remember, age doesn't dictate maturity, but that's what I'm saying. And I think like 35 is like that's like, yeah, you know, but it had to depend on who they are. What about you, sweetheart? Because apparently, I'm the oldest guy that you've dated. Correct. Which is wow. I'm only like two, three years older than you.
SPEAKER_02I know.
SPEAKER_00So you'd be robbing a cradle before me?
SPEAKER_02My age or younger, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's why you say you need to get with a real one. Stop playing, stop playing with their little boys or whatever.
SPEAKER_02You even know this information when I first met you.
SPEAKER_00I think you might have mentioned it because I think you said the way I reacted when you complimented me, you knew that I was older. I said, huh? How do younger men how do younger men respond to that? And I would have responded the same way even if I was like 18.
SPEAKER_02Because you're polite and sweet. That's why. Uh okay, oldest 38.
SPEAKER_0038?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Who do let me not do that?
SPEAKER_02I don't know anybody who's 38, but what I'm saying is the contingency has always been they have they have to be closer to my age than my parents' age. Because I have young parents. So 38 puts them closer to my age than my parents' age, current state.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02And because men can have kids till they're 89 or 100, it's not really gonna matter. Like where you're coming from is if they want to have kids, 40 might not be able to. A guy who's 38, they can have kids. Youngest. Scary because I have employees that are young, so I have to be careful. Probably like 28, 27. 27, maybe.
SPEAKER_00You have employees, not kids yourself that are that young.
SPEAKER_02I know, but just like thinking about my employees and then thinking about maybe dating somebody around the same age, I'm like, uh-uh. 27 feels appropriate.
SPEAKER_0027 is a good age.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_0027 is good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, 27 to 38.
SPEAKER_00If you met me, even though like technically I'm older than you, if you met me now and I was 27 years old and I was like, I'll try and get you a kid, like, would you If you talk like that, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let you. So if I said, would you like children in your next future?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00The accident wins again.
SPEAKER_02It always has. That's why I'm still here. No, I'm kidding. Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00Watching that television show, there's there's a couple people that are like, oh my god, like someone is 66 in the show, and I want to figure out who it is. I know who it is. It's Claire's Day. It's Clear's Day.
SPEAKER_02But it's just, yeah, people are so bizarre in how they interact.
SPEAKER_00Some of these people have to be paid actors or paid models because one of them literally is like, this is what they said, and I quote, if you're if you're my mom's age and you're not as hot, they they say that if you're not hot and you're my mom's age, like I'm not gonna marry you. Correct. That is absolutely wild.
SPEAKER_02Why? That makes okay.
SPEAKER_00It's wild because I can't conceptualize that personally.
SPEAKER_02You don't think about your mom as being hot?
SPEAKER_00No. Now mind you, your mom is beautiful. My mom is beautiful, shall you, mom? Both our mothers are beautiful.
SPEAKER_02Very, very beautiful.
SPEAKER_00But I can't like the benchmark, like what? That don't make no sense to me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing is just kind of odd, but that's when you start talking about age of dating and people, how they grew up and their preferences, it just gets a little sticky. The other problem I have with the show is that everyone has so much plastic surgery that we actually don't know how old they are because they have so much either filler, Botox, or some sort of surgery that has altered how they look. So I'm like, you could be 35 or you could be 65. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00You're frozen. It's funny that you pick out that number, because in my opinion, and I'm just gonna say right now, I'm sorry for this trigger warning, and I'm gonna say this, and I say this with the absolute amount of love and respect. But once you have work done, you look perpetually 35 to me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I would agree.
SPEAKER_00You can be 18, 19 years old, but the moment that you do lip filler, Botox, and I'm not saying these are bad things.
SPEAKER_02I like how you did this.
SPEAKER_00I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_02No, it's perfect. It's perfect because you're you're correct.
SPEAKER_00Once you start playing around with you, you don't look like a bad 35.
SPEAKER_02You just look frozen at 35.
SPEAKER_00And I think that's what they're looking for.
SPEAKER_02I don't know, is it?
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I'm not sure, but uh, I don't I I'm not in that realm. And I have friends who get Botox and they don't look that way. So that that's a lot of freezing and a lot of injectables and a lot, a lot, a lot of miniature procedures.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's not it's like you don't look old, but you don't look young. And I think being like in a cr in a cryostasis is like what some people are looking for. Cryostasis.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, the show is gonna be very interesting. I'm excited to watch it. We always need something to watch on TV. At one point, we recently had like 10,000 things to watch, so I'm glad that we've kind of narrowed it down. Uh, but this is gonna be a good one for us to to engage with.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Looking forward to that one. Yeah, and there's there's um there's other shows out there, like like I said, I mentioned the Blue Therapy one. That sounds like it would be a good one. Um, I've been seeing clips online about this TV show called Married at First Sight. I think it's a UK show. Um it just seems like things within a uh confines of relationships, dynamics, and whatnot. What I would be interested in is doing live reactions to television shows. So for example, like we do talk a lot during television shows.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00We like yeah, we might as well just record ourselves dinner because if I could if I do say so myself, our commentary is top tier. We be cackling, it's it's funny, it's a little bit inappropriate, but live reactions, and I think that's under fair use. So if you're open to that, if you'd like to see us do some live reactions to show, drop down some shows that you would like us to comment on, or if you'd like to see that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we could just clip this thing on our shirt.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, perfect. I love that.
SPEAKER_00And just literally watch the TV show and be like, now why the fuck would she go and do that?
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh.
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_00I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, good TV. I'm ready. It's hot outside, it's like summer. We gotta go to the beach, we gotta just get some ri mangoes. I don't know why I'm thinking about these things right now, but you deserve all of that. Fruits, baby. Fruits.
SPEAKER_00Last thing, sorry, and I just wanted to point out just a small little asterisk. Did you see that they're doing Beyond the Villa?
SPEAKER_02For what?
SPEAKER_00For um Love Island, the same season that everybody watched, where everyone kind of comes back again.
SPEAKER_02No. Actually, Breeman sent it to me. When does it come out?
SPEAKER_00I have no idea, but it's coming soon. But I guess she's not on it.
SPEAKER_02As she shouldn't be, she's cancelled.
SPEAKER_00Is she cancelled?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I cancelled her.
SPEAKER_00Dang.
SPEAKER_02And she got dropped by a ton of different people that did partnerships with her. They're like, yes, yeah. Is she still with what's his face?
SPEAKER_00Louis. I don't know. Sha man like Louis, man. He's cool people.
SPEAKER_02Is he? You don't know him.
SPEAKER_00I don't know him, but he's good television.
SPEAKER_02I can't believe that England is so dreary, but people that are like that come from there.
SPEAKER_00What that they're so colourful in nature. Yeah. I mean environment.
SPEAKER_02Maybe maybe we have to go back in the summer for me to experience like what it's actually like.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You know. It'll be a good time. Um sweetheart. I think that's coming up to our time. Yeah. Um, is there anything that you're looking forward to next week?
SPEAKER_02Our baby shower.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02My parents will be in town, my best friend from New York's coming in town, my best friend from California's coming in town. And it'll be a great time. It'll be really fun. And I have a short work week.
SPEAKER_00Congratulations. You deserve less work, baby. Less work.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. Yeah. Back-to-back short work weeks. What about you?
SPEAKER_00I'm looking forward to spending more protective time with you. Yes, the baby shower. Well, I'm am I gonna have to do a speech at the baby shower in some kind of way, shape, or form?
SPEAKER_02Probably.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Just a little thank you.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna write something down, get my words together. But yeah, I'm looking forward to this baby shower. I'm looking forward to spending more time with you. I'm looking forward to getting this house. Let's make it happen. Looking for more money coming in, more television shows, more life, more everything. Free smoke, free smoke.
SPEAKER_02Free smoke, baby. Square up.
SPEAKER_00What like this? Alright, baby. I love you. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate you. Love you, love. Yes, this episode will come out this time. I'm not gonna use Da Vinci. I'm just gonna sit down and edit this episode.
SPEAKER_02Let me use Da Vinci.
SPEAKER_00Nah.
SPEAKER_02Let me do this.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no. We gotta go.
SPEAKER_02Let me press some buttons.
SPEAKER_00Let me press it. What does button do?
SPEAKER_02Oh, delete it. Oopsie! Reverse.
SPEAKER_00Crazy. Alright, let's have an amazing day.
SPEAKER_02Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00Thank you once again for tuning in. Tune in next week. We're gonna be here. We're being consistent this year. Next week 2026. It's the year of consistency. More life, more everything. Happy spring equinox. Get outside drink your ball or make sure you click that bell notification.
SPEAKER_02Next week we're not recording a podcast.
SPEAKER_00The hell we are. We gotta get back into this. Alright. Love you, sweetheart.
SPEAKER_02Love you.
SPEAKER_00Give me a kiss. Give me a kiss.
SPEAKER_02You need the pregnant lady move? What is this? What is this? You like me?
SPEAKER_00I love you.
SPEAKER_02Finally. Took you a while. Why is this off?