
Trustworthy
Is God trustworthy? Join two friends in wholehearted conversation as they seek to answer this question. Share in the wit and wisdom that comes from being anchored in Christ and connected to one another.
Trustworthy
Trusting God With Our Work - Part 2
It’s Part 2 of our conversation on work: How God has fulfilled us in our work, how motherhood has shaped our view of work, and we come back at the end for some thoughts on work as a single woman as well.
New Morning Mercies by Paul David Tripp
A Psalm of Life by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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0.0 2.840000 Is God trustworthy?
2.840000 5.000000 Hi, I'm Sarah.
5.000000 7.000000 And I'm Mary Beth.
7.000000 12.000000 Join us as we seek to answer this question through whole-hearted conversation.
12.000000 18.000000 Discover the wit and wisdom that comes from being anchored in Christ and connected to one another.
18.000000 21.000000 This is Trustworthy.
21.000000 34.000000 [Music]
34.000000 43.000000 On today's episode of Trustworthy, I've seen God fulfill those desires in ways that I never could have imagined.
43.000000 53.000000 I got really wrapped up in other people's perception of me and letting that define whether God was doing what I wanted him to do or not.
53.000000 63.000000 [Music]
63.000000 69.000000 This week, we are going to be listening to the rest of our conversation about trusting God with our work.
69.000000 73.000000 Make sure you stick around at the end for over time.
73.000000 79.000000 Mary Beth has a pretty awesome story to share, and I've got a surprise too.
79.000000 86.000000 How has God fulfilled me in this area of work?
86.000000 92.000000 How has he restored those expectations or desires and so forth?
92.000000 107.000000 For me, I think the answer has several parts, but since I left my career, these are the different opportunities that I've been able to invest my time in energy in.
107.000000 115.000000 Renovating and reselling two homes, the third profit,
115.000000 130.000000 and working with folks on their personal financial budgets and goals, I've been able to consult with someone to keep their home from being foreclosed on.
130.000000 139.000000 I have been able to teach teenagers a couple of classes, been a teacher.
139.000000 150.000000 I have been able to lead teams of people to do various projects in ministry, but also events .
150.000000 154.000000 I can't even think of them all right now.
154.000000 168.000000 I have been able to host groups of people, kids, in my home, and just shower them with love and affection.
168.000000 183.000000 I can't even begin to tell you the ways that God has restored the desires that I've had and been able to use me to bless people in ways that I never would have imagined.
183.000000 186.000000 So yeah, I've been busy.
186.000000 199.000000 So in all of those things, obviously we see those as God's provision and his sovereignty over all that in your life.
199.000000 205.000000 But what has been your kind of mental emotional attitude about it all?
205.000000 210.000000 Like, is that been as fulfilling as your paid career was?
210.000000 213.000000 I'm just curious what your experiential level was.
213.000000 218.000000 Right. So let me just say all of those things are things that I'm passionate about.
218.000000 229.000000 And they're all all things that I have considered in the past or over the years as jobs, careers, ways to make money or whatever.
229.000000 233.000000 I actually did consider teaching at one point.
233.000000 237.000000 I did consider flipping houses.
237.000000 244.000000 I did consider financial coaching. I did consider event planning.
244.000000 248.000000 Actually, even we didn't interview with an event planning company once.
257.000000 266.000000 So it is literally as if every desire that I thought that I had given up in my life, I've seen, especially in this area of work,
266.000000 272.000000 I've seen God fulfill those desires in ways that I never could have imagined.
272.000000 282.000000 So it is further confirmation that Sarah going punch in a clock for a paycheck is not what God wants me to do right now.
282.000000 288.000000 And I believe that this podcast is the next thing that God wants me to do.
288.000000 307.000000 Because there are a lot of people that either are afraid to talk about what they feel are lacks in their life because it might come across as complaining.
307.000000 317.000000 I know for me, try not to complain, but it's okay to talk about those things, especially if we talk about them in the context of, okay, here's a thing.
317.000000 321.000000 This was my expectation. It's appropriate to grieve this.
321.000000 326.000000 But then I have to let that go. I have to nail that to the cross of Christ.
326.000000 331.000000 And I need to move on. And God will correct me in sending the direction He wants me to go.
331.000000 341.000000 And then it's the hindsight, right? It's looking back and saying, wow, God's provision has been greater than I ever imagined.
341.000000 347.000000 Well, but what you're saying earlier about giving up some of our desires.
347.000000 359.000000 And there are, there's kind of multiple layers to that. So on the one hand, sometimes God gives us desires for things or a dream for things for a season.
359.000000 364.000000 Yes. And sometimes it's hard to let go of that season.
364.000000 372.000000 But then other times there are things that he has just made us as humans to desire because we were made for him.
372.000000 382.000000 And it's not that the desire itself is wrong. It's just that I am misplacing that desire or it had been fulfilled in this one way.
382.000000 387.000000 And now God's going to do it another way. And I have to be willing to jump into the change.
387.000000 391.000000 Does that make sense? I think I think it does. Yeah.
391.000000 407.000000 And that he, , that he is the one who is restoring it is is planning it. I mean, when we, when we moved here, it was a very lonely time for us as a family because we didn't know anybody here.
407.000000 422.000000 I knew nothing about this area of the world until the day I drove to our apartment that we were renting that my husband had signed the lease for. So I bring my baby into this place that I literally had no concept of.
422.000000 432.000000 And so I think that there was a lot of I have a desire for community. I have a desire for all these things that I had in my past season of life.
432.000000 440.000000 And so the desire was not wrong. It was that it might not look the way I wanted to look and might have a timeline. I wanted to happen.
440.000000 452.000000 I had a hard time with wanting people to know the old me because no one here knew that I was this career person in DC who like got to do cool things and had her act together.
452.000000 463.000000 They just knew me as, oh, that's that new lady with the baby and she's pregnant. Like this is like, and so this is a whole new realm of how do people know me? What are they?
463.000000 475.000000 Me and they were seeing you as a mom. Yeah, I got really wrapped up in other people's perception of me and letting that define whether God was doing what I wanted him to do or not.
475.000000 485.000000 And so I think how he has redeemed some of that over the past few years is slowing me down and saying, you are a mom.
485.000000 498.000000 Hello! It seems so obvious. But like, hello, open your eyes. This is this is what I have given you in this season of life. Why are you so quick to not run away from it, but to question.
498.000000 511.000000 Great. What I'm doing. I want to just go back for a second to something you just said, you said, I was very wrapped up in other people's perception of me and using that to figure out if God was.
511.000000 516.000000 Yeah, if God was doing what I thought he should be doing what I wanted him to be doing.
516.000000 534.000000 Well, isn't that interesting the other day I was reading the new morning, mercy's devotional from Paul David trip, which we, , love and he had a really interesting quote that I thought was pretty funny.
534.000000 549.000000 This is from the April 2nd day new morning, mercies in this way prayer often amounts to shopping at the Trinitarian department store for the things that you have told yourself you need with the hope that they will be free.
549.000000 558.000000 I just chuckled when I read that and we just said that like I was gauging, , how other people saw me as whether or not God was, , give me what I wanted.
558.000000 568.000000 I mean, my prayers at that time were you gave me this before, give it to me again. Like I had this great community, give me community here.
568.000000 580.000000 I had this reputation. Give me that reputation. Yeah, it was I know you can do it. So why are you doing it? It was that kind of attitude.
580.000000 589.000000 Yeah, when I moved to this area, I did not move as far and I was familiar with the area, but still it was a, , it was a new everything was new.
589.000000 602.000000 It was a new marriage was a new home. It was a new church. New everything. And yeah, I wasn't that far away from my my home that I couldn't visit people.
602.000000 619.000000 But the new set of friends, , and I remember crying like the first time I went to the Bible study at church because I was like, there's no way that I will ever find a group of women that loves me as well.
619.000000 632.000000 And then I love as well as the group that I just left like I just thought this is just no way. And since then, I found amazing community and I've made some best friends.
632.000000 641.000000 And I wouldn't have thought that. But you didn't look the way that I thought it should.
641.000000 653.000000 Well, and I think that is where this concept of can we trust God when it doesn't look the way we think it should. Yeah, is he still trustworthy if it's not as great as we thought it should be.
653.000000 655.000000 That's a great question.
655.000000 664.000000 This has definitely been an interesting conversation. Very bad. I've enjoyed this. So trusting God in our work.
664.000000 673.000000 And how do we define work? I think that trusting God for the definition of work in our own lives is sort of the key here.
673.000000 681.000000 Yeah, we are all called to work. Right. All of us as humans. Yes. God put us here to work. We're is a good thing.
681.000000 688.000000 But what does that look like? Yeah. Well, I mean in the very beginning of time, , when he created the world.
688.000000 697.000000 And he created the garden and he put Adam and Eve and he just said, this is the work that you need to do. you need to steward that.
697.000000 703.000000 And by the way, we are still need to steward the world around us.
703.000000 715.000000 Whether that be the trees and the plants and the fauna outside or whether it be our family, our home, our finances, the state of our own heart.
715.000000 719.000000 Being a steward is what we're called to do.
719.000000 731.000000 And I think that when we can accept what God has for us to do, these good works, these prepared in advance.
731.000000 741.000000 And when we can find joy, it may not be exactly the way that we think it should be.
741.000000 745.000000 For me, like I kind of woke up one day and I'm like, wait a minute.
745.000000 755.000000 I am getting to talk to people about their finances and, maybe some difficult things and how those relate to each other.
755.000000 764.000000 I am getting to work with kids. I am getting to cook a gourmet meal. And these are all things I love. Oh my goodness.
764.000000 778.000000 I have a dream life. Like this is great. I'm here. I've arrived. And then the next day, I have a bad attitude about something because, very fickle, unfortunately.
778.000000 787.000000 Which is why I need a savior. But there's one verse that I have really, really taken solace in through these changes.
787.000000 801.000000 Through this search for for my work, what my calling is, it is Psalm 2713 is David writing, I remain confident of this.
801.000000 807.000000 I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
807.000000 819.000000 And the reason that resonates so well is that I know I have an eternal home in heaven. And I know that there will be no more sickness and there will be no more tears.
819.000000 827.000000 And I live my life based on that. And because it's an ant.
827.000000 837.000000 When I am anchored in Christ and connected to other people, I get to see the goodness of the Lord here now.
837.000000 846.000000 I get to see here across from my friend and talk about good things, weighty matters that should be talked about.
846.000000 852.000000 I get to enjoy a meal with my family. So there you have it.
852.000000 858.000000 I have one concluding thought.
858.000000 863.000000 My senior year of college, I took off a semester to work on a congressional campaign.
863.000000 871.000000 It was a re-election campaign and the candidate was, is a believer and we lost.
871.000000 881.000000 And the day after election day, he gathered staff and we're all talking and he said, I was talking to one of my sons last night.
881.000000 889.000000 And he said, how are you feeling, dad? And he said, I really felt that God was calling me to be a congressman.
889.000000 895.000000 And I don't understand why he would give me that calling and then not fulfill it.
895.000000 901.000000 And his son said to him, dad, he didn't call you to be a congressman. He called you to be obedient.
901.000000 903.000000 Wow. Yeah.
903.000000 915.000000 So for me to start out my career with that experience and knowledge and thought in the back of my head of God might be calling you to specific circumstances.
915.000000 924.000000 But really, he is calling you to be obedient no matter the outcome of those circumstances, especially as it relates to work and career and all those things.
924.000000 926.000000 It was very powerful.
926.000000 937.000000 Wow. My mind is sort of wrapping around that and I'm thinking about that in the context of, back to being a mom, which is like my first job.
937.000000 943.000000 There's days that I do not want to make another meal.
943.000000 952.000000 There are days when I don't want to do the laundry, I'm tired, whatever might be going on.
952.000000 957.000000 I don't know that I really want to engage.
957.000000 959.000000 I just want to shut my mind off.
959.000000 970.000000 whether that be scrolling on my phone or, watching television or reading a book or something, I just want to like be alone.
970.000000 974.000000 But that's not obedience.
974.000000 980.000000 Obedience is nailing my passions and desires to the cross at Christ.
980.000000 993.000000 Fixing dinner, listening.
993.000000 996.000000 I think, guess what?
996.000000 1000.000000 There's so much joy for me on the other side of that.
1000.000000 1010.000000 God rewards us, I believe.
1010.000000 1017.000000 And there's so much joy that come from fulfilling our calling and doing that work.
1017.000000 1019.000000 Making that dinner.
1019.000000 1030.000000 Actually, I feel like we could dedicate a whole podcast episode to preparing and serving meals and building community around the table.
1030.000000 1036.000000 I thought you were just going to say like meal planning and I was like, count me out as the expert on that.
1036.000000 1037.000000 Oh, I'm not an expert.
1037.000000 1039.000000 I dislike meal planning.
1039.000000 1041.000000 There are people that do really good.
1041.000000 1042.000000 I am not.
1042.000000 1046.000000 I am the person that's like, let me buy everything I see in the grocery store with that I go pops, it's a little bit of a need.
1046.000000 1048.000000 And then figure it out and then figure it out.
1048.000000 1051.000000 And then half the stuff is bad by the time I use it.
1051.000000 1055.000000 Anyway, but maybe we'll see that in another episode.
1055.000000 1064.000000 But for now, I think that we can rest in this idea that our work is what God calls us to do.
1064.000000 1069.000000 Whether it be paid or unpaid in the worldly sense.
1069.000000 1074.000000 And he will give us the desires of our heart.
1074.000000 1077.000000 They may not look like what we think they should.
1077.000000 1083.000000 But letting go of that and holding on to his promises.
1083.000000 1087.000000 And that he has prepared good works and advance for us to do.
1087.000000 1091.000000 And that we will see the goodness of the Lord and the land of the living.
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1102.000000 1105.000000 Hey Mary Beth, there's something I've been thinking about.
1105.000000 1109.000000 We had a big conversation about work and being a mom and all that sort of stuff.
1109.000000 1113.000000 But for most of my working life, I was not a mom.
1113.000000 1116.000000 And I have a lot of girlfriends that are single.
1116.000000 1120.000000 And they have pretty high pressure jobs.
1120.000000 1123.000000 So I think that we could talk about that.
1123.000000 1125.000000 I like it.
1125.000000 1128.000000 I did not become a mom 'til I was 34.
1128.000000 1132.000000 So I worked for over a decade before that transition happened.
1132.000000 1137.000000 And I think that there is a lot that we can unpack about what,
1137.000000 1142.000000 can work look like, what should it look like when you're single woman?
1142.000000 1143.000000 Yeah.
1143.000000 1146.000000 I have worked with people that had families.
1146.000000 1149.000000 I mean, and there were some other young, single people.
1149.000000 1151.000000 But, there were a lot of people that had families.
1151.000000 1157.000000 And, they would have to go to baseball games or scout meetings.
1157.000000 1159.000000 Or, whatever.
1159.000000 1161.000000 And that was fine.
1161.000000 1163.000000 But guess who didn't?
1163.000000 1169.000000 And guess who was the one that was always there and available.
1169.000000 1170.000000 That's right.
1170.000000 1171.000000 Yeah.
1171.000000 1176.000000 Looking back on that and, seeing things from the perspective I have now.
1176.000000 1180.000000 I don't know if it's older or wiser.
1180.000000 1182.000000 I mean, does that have to be an or can it be an end?
1182.000000 1184.000000 Older and wiser.
1184.000000 1189.000000 I didn't want to say I was like, well, we are older, but not old.
1189.000000 1190.000000 Yeah.
1190.000000 1191.000000 Exactly.
1191.000000 1195.000000 But looking back on that, I think I would want to tell my 22 year old self
1195.000000 1199.000000 to maybe not work all those extra hours.
1199.000000 1204.000000 maybe not say yes every time somebody's like, oh, can you cover for me?
1204.000000 1207.000000 Well, that's such a tough spot.
1207.000000 1211.000000 in my professional experience, being committed to your job
1211.000000 1216.000000 and being able to work at any given hour of the day or night.
1216.000000 1221.000000 And I think that that is becoming more so the expectation in at least,
1221.000000 1226.000000 kind of the office setting is be available all the time.
1226.000000 1233.000000 And if you are single, have no quote unquote family responsibility.
1233.000000 1237.000000 That yeah, there's a tendency to have more work dumped on your plate.
1237.000000 1242.000000 It's a the hard position to be in to draw boundaries.
1242.000000 1247.000000 around your own life, if it doesn't look like the person in the office next to you
1247.000000 1250.000000 who has, two kids.
1250.000000 1258.000000 So as followers of Jesus, how do we walk through that being,
1258.000000 1263.000000 good stewards of our work being committed and faithful employees and doing our job well
1263.000000 1270.000000 and still drawing healthy boundaries and not getting swept into the workaholic lifestyle.
1270.000000 1278.000000 I think that this whole idea of loyalty at any cost,
1278.000000 1283.000000 as far as like showing up on weekends, I think about now the Zoom culture
1283.000000 1288.000000 and even though people are working from home, like there's no sacred space.
1288.000000 1293.000000 Like, well, I can just zoom you or I can text you or I can this and that
1293.000000 1295.000000 and why aren't you responding.
1295.000000 1299.000000 I think some companies are really crossing a line and shame on us,
1299.000000 1302.000000 for the working people, the working class, shame on us for letting it happen.
1302.000000 1306.000000 But I think it was gradual, especially during COVID, I think things.
1306.000000 1307.000000 The good things, right.
1307.000000 1308.000000 That's forwarded a lot of that.
1308.000000 1313.000000 And I have a lot to say about working in person versus working remotely.
1313.000000 1316.000000 a lot of good things happen when people are in the same space together.
1316.000000 1318.000000 It's just more efficient.
1318.000000 1323.000000 But that's a whole other conversation.
1323.000000 1332.000000 Yeah, I think that something I tried to stay committed to when I was,
1332.000000 1339.000000 not married, not a mother working was making sure that I was still giving time to community
1339.000000 1347.000000 and to serving in some kind of capacity because you can fill your time.
1347.000000 1353.000000 I mean, you have so much more control over your time when you are, single.
1353.000000 1354.000000 Yes.
1354.000000 1356.000000 And so it's how am I filling those hours?
1356.000000 1362.000000 And like, you should be doing things that are fun and things that, you enjoy and all those things.
1362.000000 1367.000000 But also, kind of giving yourself those boundaries in that check of,
1367.000000 1372.000000 maybe you're in a job that is not actually utilizing all of your interest or skills.
1372.000000 1375.000000 Look for other ways to do that.
1375.000000 1393.000000 My sister is a great, example of this of, she's kind of changed jobs and navigated different things, seeking how to still use the things that really drive her, even if it's at a volunteer capacity, even if it's, it doesn't have to be paid as long as, you still feel like you're using.
1393.000000 1397.000000 Being who you are and using your gifts in that way.
1397.000000 1403.000000 So I would just say that is an encouragement to those who are single, you may be in a job you love, you may be in a job you hate.
1403.000000 1408.000000 Don't let that be the end all of, defining your work either.
1408.000000 1419.000000 Because just as we were talking in our, previous conversation about, who we are changed when we became moms, but like there's all these multiple kind of layers to each of us.
1419.000000 1430.000000 Just because you are, I'm just going to throw out a random example just because you are a single school teacher does not mean that that's all you are, you might also have like multiple other interests.
1430.000000 1441.000000 So don't limit yourself or feel like you're limited because you're single, but also don't let there be this pressure of well, you're single so you could take on everything.
1441.000000 1451.000000 you're still a human being right exactly. It's a state of your life, not your identity. It's not who you are.
1451.000000 1456.000000 Yeah, I have a funny story to share from when I was single and working way too many hours.
1456.000000 1463.000000 This was in the pre Uber days where you had to actually tell your taxi driver, okay, I need to go to this address.
1463.000000 1475.000000 So I was working in Washington DC at the time. So I was leaving a meeting, got in a cab was going back to the office and this was a week where my boss is out of town.
1475.000000 1482.000000 So I was taking on extra responsibilities, just working a time, like going home at eight o'clock, getting back to the office at eight o'clock kind of thing.
1482.000000 1494.000000 And I get in the cabin to tell the driver the address and he's like, oh, just stay out late partying last night. you're looking a little tired, which thanks driver.
1494.000000 1501.000000 And I said, no, I just have been working a lot. So I guess I'm just not getting a lot of sleep.
1501.000000 1509.000000 And then he goes to a boyfriend has just like no, and I look back down at my phone. He goes, why? And I said, I don't know. Maybe I work too much.
1509.000000 1514.000000 And he goes, no, it's because you're mean.
1514.000000 1527.000000 And it was one of those out of body experiences. So I was like, do I just roll out of the car right now? Do I punch him? Like what is the right response here? Like, yeah, you want to see mean? I will show you mean.
1527.000000 1543.000000 But I just think about all of those types of interactions that single working females have to have that it's like, like what? Like what in the world? Well, I have a question that I'm sure is like pressing for everybody that's listening right now. Did you tip the guy?
1543.000000 1544.000000 Absolutely not.
1544.000000 1545.000000 Excellent.
1545.000000 1560.000000 By the time I got to my office, he had me like apologizing for having to get out of his car. It was the most mind warping experience. And my roommate at the time, I immediately like texted her. I was like, you're not going to believe what just happened to me in the cab.
1560.000000 1569.000000 And she's like, your life is a sitcom. And this like, you need to write the story down so that when you like you have a TV show that you create about your life is going to be in it.
1569.000000 1589.000000 So I don't have a TV show, but I have a podcast. So here we go. So that's the story. Oh, that is so funny. I don't know if it's funny. It's a probably pretty tra
1.0 gic. But one of the things that I dealt with everybody that I had a potential to date by and large did not make as much money as I did.
1589.000000 1597.000000 As a single girl in her 20s, I was making more than enough to support a family of four or five. I was doing very well.
1597.000000 1599.000000 Was it like an intimidation thing?
1599.000000 1600.000000 I think so.
1600.000000 1607.000000 I think so. But I think it was also to like, well, if I can do this, like, what are you doing?
1607.000000 1611.000000 Do you have what it takes to like, to chop up to the line with me?
1611.000000 1627.000000 Well, and also to I am very strong personality. You did somebody that can handle it. Absolutely. So that's that's a, that's a story for another episode that will never be recorded.
1627.000000 1640.000000 Well, all that to say single ladies, we were you were not forgetting about you. And well, I hope that our whole conversation in this episode has been useful for you as well.
1640.000000 1650.000000 I think my final thoughts for the working women of the world who are believers is like God has given you your work to do.
1650.000000 1651.000000 Keep at it.
1651.000000 1657.000000 Absolutely. Get after it.
1657.000000 1663.000000 Or be up and doing. There we go. I love that poem.
1663.000000 1669.000000 So I don't know that one. Oh, yeah. It is a song of life by Henry Watts, Ruth Longfellow.
1669.000000 1677.000000 In the last stanza, I can reach back into the cobwebs here.
1677.000000 1689.000000 Let us then be up and doing with a heart for any fate, still achieving, still pursuing, learn to labor and to wait.
1689.000000 1704.000000 Psalm 27, 13 and 14.
1704.000000 1718.000000 I remain confident of this. I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord. Be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord.
1718.000000 1732.000000 Thank you for listening to this episode of Trustworthy. Come back next week for another conversation with Mary Beth and I about trusting God.
1732.000000 1736.000000 This is Trustworthy.
1736.000000 1756.000000
1771.000000 1776.000000 A psalm of life by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
1776.000000 1788.000000 Tell me not in mournful numbers, life is but an empty dream, for the soul is dead, the slumbers, and things are not what they seem.
1788.000000 1794.000000 Life is real, life is earnest, and the grave is not its goal.
1794.000000 1814.000000 Dust thou art to dust returnest was not spoken of the soul. Not enjoyment and not sorrow is our destined and our way, but to act that each tomorrow find us farther than today.
1814.000000 1828.000000 Heart is long and time is fleeting and our hearts, though stout and brave, still like muffled drums are beating funeral marches to the grave.
1828.000000 1840.000000 In the world's broad field of battle, in the bivouac of life, be not like dumb driven cattle, be a hero in the strife.
1840.000000 1854.000000 No future, how air pleasant, let the dead past bury its dead, act, act in the living present, heart within and God or head.
1854.000000 1868.000000 Lives of great men all remind us we can make our lives sublime, and departing leave behind us footprints on the sands of time.
1868.000000 1881.000000 Footprints that perhaps another sailing or life's solemn main, a four-learn and shipwrecked brother seeing shall take heart again.
1881.000000 1896.000000 Let us then be up in doing with a heart for any fate, still achieving, still pursuing, learn to labor and to wait.
Hey, y'all, Mary Beth here. Sarah and I are so glad that you chose to listen to our podcast.
1756.000000 1771.000000 And while we think that we're awesome friends to have, we just wanted to clarify that we are not mental health professionals and want you to know that this podcast should not take the place of any paid professional advice.
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