Trusting Jesus With Loved Ones with Amanda Hayhurst (Mark 7:24-29)

In this episode, author Amanda Hayhurst joins us to discuss our next miracle in Mark. Amanda gives great insight on this sometimes confusing miracle and helps us understand scripture better with her own personal experiences. She also shares about her journey with the Lord and her best selling book, Pray for Him. In this episode we learn:

• How understanding Jewish context helps us better understand the text
• Why the Syrian Phoenician woman's request is full of humble faith
• How trusting our loved ones to Jesus is better than trying to change them

I'm so excited to share this episode with you!

Links:

Find Amanda's  book on Amazon: Pray for Him

Amanda's Instagram: @amandahayhurstwrites

Amanda's website: www.amandahayhurstwrites.com

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Transcript

Whitney Akin (00:00.92)
Well, welcome back to Hanging on Every Word. And this week, I'm so excited to introduce you to Amanda Hayhurst. Welcome to the show, Amanda. I'm so happy to have you. Yeah. So Amanda is an author and she holds a master's in biblical and theological studies from Dallas Theological Seminary. Super impressive. She's been featured in Guideposts, Chicken Soup for the Soul, Focus on the Family, and recently released her first prayer devotional, Pray for Him, which has held the number one spot on Amazon.

Amanda Hayhurst (00:08.782)
I'm so excited to be here.

Whitney Akin (00:29.23)
for books and prayer and relationships. She has a passion for encouraging others and considers herself a hype woman for other women. She's been married to her husband, Marcus, for 15 years and gives God all the glory. They cherish every moment spent with their two young boys, an adult bonus daughter. And Amanda, you're also a local Georgia author, not too far from me. Yeah. And we had, so we met on Instagram originally, like we do these days. We had the opportunity to also meet in person

Amanda Hayhurst (00:47.896)
Yes. Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (00:54.238)
Right.

Whitney Akin (00:58.976)
Originally, we just talked about getting together and then we had this idea like, why don't we get other authors to come and get together? so sometime last summer, several authors from all around Atlanta gathered together to meet. And isn't it so cool when we get to meet like people in real life that we met? Yeah.

Amanda Hayhurst (01:15.968)
Yes, exactly. And the fact that we got to come from all over this. mean, some came, I think even from outside of Georgia, maybe a couple, don't know, but it was really cool. Yeah. We all got to come together. Everyone was so sweet and nice and I loved it the best time.

Whitney Akin (01:29.39)
Yeah, we got to do it again. got to get planning on something again. That was really cool. So we're going to hear more about Amanda and her story and her resources. But first, she's agreed to go through our 12th miracle with us in the Book of Mark. And this one is an interesting one. So Amanda, I'm looking forward to hearing your insights on this one. This miracle is found in Mark 7, verses 24 through 29. So like we do on the podcast, I'm going to read the passage to you.

Amanda Hayhurst (01:35.46)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (01:50.351)
Yes.

Whitney Akin (01:58.702)
Jesus left the place and went to the vicinity of Tire. He entered a house and did not want anyone to know it, yet he could not keep his presence a secret. In fact, as soon as he heard about him, as soon as she heard about him, a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an impure spirit came and fell at his feet. The woman was a Greek born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter. First, let the children eat all they want, he told her, for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs.

Lord, she replied, even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs. Then he told her for such a reply, you may go. The demon has left your daughter. Okay. So again, kind of a strange account. Um, and this woman initially is described by her ethnicity. And so we learned that she's born in Syrian Phoenicia, which is north of Israel. And it would be like modern day Lebanon area. So why does this woman's ethnicity matter so much in this?

Amanda Hayhurst (02:57.324)
Yeah, I think it's really important to remember that Jesus's mission when he came was to reach the lost house of the children of Israel. So he was going after God's people who he made a covenant with because God is a covenant-keeping God. And so the fact that she's a Gentile is very important. She was looked down upon. She's not part of this Jewish culture.

Yeah, she's, you know, not this, mean, eventually we know that, you know, God's plan for redemption is for everyone, but during this specific dispensation, she is, it's not time yet. Right. And so it's very important to remember that Jesus, his first mission was to reach, Israel.

Whitney Akin (03:46.038)
Yeah, that's right. That's right. And the account says that her little daughter, and it says little daughter, is possessed by an unclean spirit. And there are some accounts in the scripture of children being possessed, but we don't see it a whole lot. And so, Amanda, we're both moms. And can you just help us think about what this woman might have been feeling? Just humanize her a little bit as she fell at Jesus's feet.

Amanda Hayhurst (04:00.356)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (04:09.06)
Yes. my gosh. Well, first of all, watching your child suffer is so hard. And a lot of the times we can bring comfort, you know, we can come alongside them and help them and, and meet their needs. But I mean, demon possession, like you're, you're talking about something that would feel like hopeless, like helpless. There's literally nothing that you can do. And, there's also a story of the little boy that was possessed in scripture.

And we know that from that account that the demon was trying to kill him, know, throw him into the fire, into the water. And so it's very likely that this little girl, you know, that her life was in jeopardy. and so this mother just feeling like, my gosh, my, my child's life is in jeopardy. I mean, think about that. Think about watching your child get to this point of death and, unfortunately, I know what that feels like with my child, Reese.

You know, he had leukemia and I watched him get to that point of, don't know if he's going to make it. And I know what it's like to get on your knees and to cry out to the Lord and for healing, because you know, he can do it. And so what, what faith this woman had to fall at the feet of Jesus and plead for a child's healing, because her, her baby's life, was literally life or death. And so she was desperate. Yeah.

Whitney Akin (05:31.842)
Yeah, beautiful. What better way to humanize her than to say, you know what she's feeling. That's beautiful. 

 So on first reading though, this woman falls at Jesus's feet in sorrow. His answer to her sounds pretty harsh. He says, it's not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs. And I think that that can be a really confusing line to people as they read that in scripture. So can you help us understand what this means in context of this verse?

Amanda Hayhurst (07:04.108)
Yes. So back in the day that Jesus was walking the earth, mean, Gentiles were like we mentioned before, they were looked down on and oftentimes they were called dogs. And so when you hear this, it's like, my gosh, Jesus is, is calling her a dog. How could he, how could he say that it's Jesus? but she obviously wasn't insulted by it. You know, her response did not show that she was, it was almost like, well, that is the reality. That's how we're viewed. and so.

It's the reason that it's this back and forth and he's provoking her in this way is because it was this rabbinic style of teaching of going back and forth in this wrestling. that's how, how honestly, when you think about it, how we learn best, right? Is asking questions and going back and forth. And, and that is how they learned. And it was to get her to this place where she would have this expression of faith that we see so often in scripture that the Lord is, wanting to provoke within us in this dialogue.

So I know it's hard because it's language we're not familiar with and it does feel very insulting, but remember that she wasn't insulted by that.

Whitney Akin (08:12.46)
Yeah, that's really interesting. And as I think back on other miracles that we've studied, we can kind of see that pattern at different times to that pattern of teaching. We see it when Jesus says, later on, we'll study this to a blind man. says, what do you want me to do for you? And it's this idea that he needs that expression of faith. Or he asked the father of the boy who has a demon later on in Mark, he says,

Amanda Hayhurst (08:22.704)
Yeah.

Whitney Akin (08:39.166)
if you believe, if I can do it. And he's trying to provoke him to this idea that he needs more faith and to believe that Jesus is able to. And so that's really helpful to understand what's going on here. And it is such a great point that she doesn't seem offended by it. She seems encouraged to explore more why she thinks she can come to Jesus and fall at his feet. And so that's beautiful. So my study Bible had this really interesting note

Amanda Hayhurst (08:52.292)
Yeah.

Amanda Hayhurst (09:05.104)
Hmm.

Whitney Akin (09:08.994)
that kind of stuck out to me and it said that the inclusion of the word first in the line that says, first let the children eat all they want, is actually a picture of holding out hope. That he has something coming for those who are after the first, or he wouldn't said first. So what does that little word, this possibility for hope, tell us about the character Jesus in this passage?

Amanda Hayhurst (09:32.624)
It's, you know, God doesn't change and he loves to give us glimpses of hope. And we see that way back in Genesis in the beginning when Adam and Eve committed this terrible, terrible sin of disobedience. And yet the Lord makes sure to remind them of this prophetic promise that there's hope coming, there's redemption coming. The story isn't over yet. And so we see that here it's giving her hope that, you know, it may not be now, but eventually

Everyone is included in on this solution to this sin problem, know to our salvation And so I love that the Lord does that and I was just talking with a friend yesterday Sometimes it seems like God gives us this this vision of our lives For me, it was writing in four or five years. It's like I that's how long it took from the vision to when it came into fruition But I love how the Lord gives us these little glimpses

of hope that we can hold on to, know, it's keeping our eye on the prize. I love that he did that.

Whitney Akin (10:35.97)
Yeah, yeah, that's so good. Jesus tells her after she responds to him that because of her reply, she can go and her daughter is healed. So clearly what she says is speaking volumes to in this situation to Jesus. So can you put her response into your own words and kind of help us understand the faith behind the answer? I'll just remind listeners what she said. She said, Lord, even the dogs under the table eat the children's crumbs.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:05.023)
say Lord just the smallest amount of your blessing is enough to change everything. It doesn't take a lot and I love that she's like if I just had a little bit like that would be enough.

Whitney Akin (11:21.506)
Yeah, just a little bit of Jesus is better than nothing. Yeah. It's such a humble answer to come from this woman in this desperate situation. And we see Jesus does heal her daughter, even though he kind of challenged her in the beginning. what a, just like you said, what a place that Jesus kind of brought her to through that kind of challenging back and forth, this humble faith that she has, really beautiful. Yeah.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:23.34)
Yes, yes, yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:30.095)
Mm-hmm.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:37.861)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:47.446)
I agree. I love that story.

Whitney Akin (11:49.484)
Yeah, that's so good. And thank you for helping us with it, because I do think that's kind of a tough one for people as we read through scripture. Yeah.

Amanda Hayhurst (11:57.282)
Yes, yes. It takes so much of, and I'll talk about this a little later too, but so much effort on our part because we're so far removed from the culture of the time to really do the work and to figure out the cultural context and what was going on and what some of these Jewish idioms mean and why, you know, the term dog, like what does that mean? And why would, why would, why would Jesus call her that? And really digging into that.

My dog is barking, can you hear that? Okay, you're gonna be able to get that out. She's going crazy. Now he's weed eating by the front door. My goodness. Oh, the timing.

Whitney Akin (12:27.768)
here but that's okay let me think about what you just said yeah okay are we good are we good to go back into it

Amanda Hayhurst (12:50.944)
Yeah, think he's a what? You heard the bark though, right? Okay.

Whitney Akin (12:53.794)
heard the bark. There may be a little bit in your answer, but then I'll cut the rest off. So it's okay. It's I don't think that's a big deal. okay. I wanted to say something about what you said. I'm trying to think though. No, you're so good. No. yeah, we've talked on the podcast a lot about the importance of context. And so I'm trying to learn when we start, when we come to a book or coming to a whole set of

Amanda Hayhurst (12:57.25)
Okay, I thought so. I was trying to like rush it because I heard her start.

Amanda Hayhurst (13:06.798)
I'm sorry.

Amanda Hayhurst (13:14.98)
Yes.

Whitney Akin (13:21.326)
things we need to establish before we just kind of dive in and understand. So that's such a great reminder, that cultural context and all the things when we come to a book is so important.

Amanda Hayhurst (13:31.396)
Yes, yes, I agree.

Whitney Akin (13:33.614)
Okay, so I want to switch gears a little bit and ask you about your own journey to sort of knowing and loving God's Word. You have a master's in biblical and theological studies from Dallas Theological Seminary, which I have to admit is like a dream of mine. I hope one day I can also go to seminary. But what prompted you to seek that?

Amanda Hayhurst (13:46.288)
I love it.

Amanda Hayhurst (13:52.09)
Well, I knew that God was calling me to write and I loved writing. was one of the only things I was good at growing up and that was like affirmed to me from other people. I'm like, know eventually I want to write and I knew I wanted to share, you know, the truths in God's word with people. But I felt like the Lord was really convicting me. Like you need to make sure that you have sound biblical doctrine, especially now in a postmodern age, you need to make sure that you are speaking the truth.

And I did have a lot to learn. And so I really went into it as just wanting to learn. And of course, seminary is expensive. So I'm like, well, Lord, if I'm going to go to seminary, and I also wanted the structure I wanted, I mean, it sounds crazy. I did want deadlines. I did want accountability. I wanted those things to hold me accountable. so I thought, my gosh, I'm obviously gonna need the money. And the Lord

provided with this part-time medical sales job that I had gotten that that's kind of my, my, past career, but I was in it it was, was, was just the Lord. was the easiest job and it did not require a lot of time and it met, it met our needs during, mean, and then if it's so funny, Whitney is that the Lord dried it up as soon as I got done. It was like, yes, I mean, just provided for what I needed for that season. but I loved every minute of it.

Whitney Akin (15:06.446)
That's me.

Amanda Hayhurst (15:15.383)
my gosh, you should totally, you should go. You would love it.

Whitney Akin (15:19.052)
I'm hoping one day that's in store. Yeah, I would love it. Absolutely.

Amanda Hayhurst (15:20.581)
Yes.

And they do have free classes online for any of your listeners, we want to check it out, they do offer some free classes to.

Whitney Akin (15:28.866)
Yeah, that's awesome. So I love to give, that's one way to answer this question I'm just going to ask you, but I love to give readers practical advice just as we try to grow in being consistent and confident Bible readers. And so if you could tell us one thing that has really helped you grow in Bible study and in spending time with Jesus, what would that be?

Amanda Hayhurst (15:34.722)
I'm kidding.

Amanda Hayhurst (15:49.774)
Yeah, I mentioned it before, but I love learning more about the Jewish world that this Bible was written in. And so I do as much as I can to study the context of scripture. And that's something that has helped to give me such a richer, deeper understanding of scripture. Going to Israel was incredible a couple of years ago and seeing everything that I saw and learning about the context of scripture as I was there.

was really neat. And also I, I meant, well, maybe it was before we started recording, but this resource has been incredible. It's the complete Jewish study Bible and it's its own translation. It's the CJ, the C J S I don't know, but if you go on CJB, if you go on your Bible app, you can actually just search that translation. And what's really cool is it replaces

common words with the Hebrew or the Greek word. And then there are tons of articles in it that give you a deeper, richer meaning of just the different stories that you read and giving you a greater idea of the context of the culture of the time. So it's, very enriching and I've, I've loved it. I've, I've loved it. So I've used this, there are different podcasts that I've listened to that have helped me get more of an understanding of the Jewish context. So it's really been context for me. And then.

And this is something that they did in the, in that they still do in Israel, but it's, it's like yeshiva, this concept of yeshiva. And it's, it's reading and studying the word together. And so my family and I have been reading the word, um, almost every night together. And we didn't do that before. We'd never liked it. The only devotionals or anything, but we've started reading the word together at night and it has been so incredible. The conversation, the wrestling that we were talking about going back and forth, you know, having.

this freedom as we're reading to stop, you know, do you have any questions? Like, what did that sound like? What was weird about that? You know, because we have kids, young kids and so, yeah, it's been really great. think just reading out loud, out loud has been different. It's weird when you read out loud and you hear yourself and some of the questions that come up that normally wouldn't when you're just reading in your head, I don't know what it is, but we've really enjoyed that too. And that's been helping me.

Whitney Akin (18:11.662)
That's so great. I have never heard of that version of the Bible. So that's really interesting and seems like a great kind of fresh perspective. You know, if you're for something to just bring some life into Bible study and that's different that I'm interested in. it's on the Bible app. You can look it up.

Amanda Hayhurst (18:20.643)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (18:30.018)
It is, it's on the Bible app. It's its own translation. But if you, if you want all of the articles, which I have found very helpful, you will need to purchase the actual Bible and I got it on Amazon. but yeah, it's been, it's been really, really, I'm like flipping through it now. It's, it's great. I think you guys will love it.

Whitney Akin (18:48.108)
Yeah, and I love that idea of reading with your family and reading out loud. It is different reading out loud. I've been reading through the Old Testament with my kids and it, you know, there's some stuff in the Old Testament. So it brings up some questions for kids and it's great to just talk through the honesty of the Bible and the humanity that they don't shy away from and what that teaches us about God. And so I love that.

Amanda Hayhurst (18:54.468)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (19:15.962)
Yes, yes.

Whitney Akin (19:17.742)
So let's talk about your book, Pray for Him. I just would love to hear more about why you were inspired to write on that topic.

Amanda Hayhurst (19:28.156)
I, this came from, well, my marriage is a huge part of my testimony. So I basically wrote this devotional in my prayer closet. I mean, it's just a compilation of prayers that I've been praying over my own husband, but I was just gonna get it here because I wanted to show everyone. it's, it's a pray for him, but change crossed out. So yeah, change crossed out and then pray for him. So it's really, it was probably six years ago that I decided I'm gonna.

Whitney Akin (19:44.59)
So.

Amanda Hayhurst (19:55.69)
to stop changing my husband. It's not working. I'm exhausted. It's not my job anyway. And I felt just really, really tired. And I think a lot of people feel that way when you're desperate to see change in someone you love and something inside you believes you can make it happen on your own. And when you're carrying this weight that's not yours to carry, you will feel exhausted.

My emotions were becoming entangled with his, like when he had a bad day, I had a bad day. When he carried anxiety, I somehow took it on and I just really struggled to be okay when he wasn't okay. And I got to a point where I'm like, I just, I can't do it anymore. And I wasn't giving up on us. just, I'm like, I literally cannot carry this anymore. And so I got up early every morning at like 5 a.m. and I went to my prayer room and I prayed for my husband. And what I started to notice is this.

this weight that was literally lifted off of me. I was learning how to trust the Lord with this future is what it really came down to. I was learning to trust the Lord with this future. And every day, that's what prayer is. You're trusting the Lord with your future or the future of those you love, and you're trusting that God is gonna give them what's best for them right now. And it's not my timeline, it's God's. It's not your timeline, it's God's.

And so that it really was very organic. And I started just sharing, some of the different, prayers that I was praying for my husband and just this, this need to want to change him. And it really resonated well with women because I think a lot of us struggle in this area. know, a lot of us are like fix it girls. We want to fix everything and make everything better. And sometimes we don't, that's just not our job. It's really learning about what your job is and what your job is and what God's job is. So it came out of.

My own story, Really? Yeah, right. Exactly.

Whitney Akin (21:48.078)
Yeah, once heard a Bible teacher say, I had to get out of the Lord's way so he could, this is kind of rash, but he could punch my husband and I wouldn't get hit. Like he could get my husband's attention and I had to get out of the way. It was such a vivid like picture of this idea that we're always trying to be the ones to change them, but maybe God wants to get their attention his way. so.

Amanda Hayhurst (22:02.512)
Nyeh!

my goodness, that is amazing.

Amanda Hayhurst (22:16.656)
Oh, that's so true. Exactly. And don't we do that with our kids too? You know, God's like, get out of the way, stop saving them so I can move in and be God to them. Um, yeah, I think we'd do that with so many different relationships.

Whitney Akin (22:32.142)
Yeah, and it's hard to get out of the way, but it is that place of, well, I do actually trust you, Lord, because doing it ourselves is kind of a shows our lack of trust ultimately. Yeah. So do you have new projects that you're working on that you want to share with us?

Amanda Hayhurst (22:42.498)
It does. It absolutely does. Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (22:50.19)
Yeah, I'm actually, it's almost done. it's an editing right now, but pray for her is coming. So I had a lot of the fellas asking me if there was anything for them. So, that should be released in the next month, I would think. So yeah, that's exciting. So any ladies out there, if you want to, purchase something for your husband so that he can start covering you in prayer, or if you're a man listening, I, there's nothing better we can do for our spouse, honestly, than to pray for them.

Whitney Akin (23:19.0)
Yeah, that's awesome. I love hearing what a great resource to have for both of those things. So you say in your bio that you consider yourself a hype woman for women, which I love that. How do you encourage women in their journeys? And how do you think men and women listening can kind of also be hype people in other people's lives?

Amanda Hayhurst (23:24.718)
Yes!

Amanda Hayhurst (23:40.752)
Yes. So yes, my bio does say that. Yeah, I think I'm just a natural encourager. We all have our different gifts, you know, and for me, I love to encourage others, especially when it's something that I myself have struggled with. So something that I do that it's

Whitney Akin (23:44.523)
I'm

Amanda Hayhurst (24:01.62)
I don't suggest everyone do this, but I work with a ministry, I volunteer with a ministry and we go into strip clubs actually through the back. We have a relationship with the house mom and a lot of this women are covered in shame. A lot of them would never step into a church. And so we find those women and we build a relationship. Quite honestly, that's what it is. It's building a relationship, doing life with them.

When we go in, we're like, we know we're just here to give to you. Everyone takes from you. want to give something to you. So we take them a gift. We offer to pray for them if there's anything going on in their lives. so I love incarnate ministry, doing life with people. I've been battling breast cancer lately. And so I said lately, that's not a weird, I've been battling breast cancer. And so since October,

I had been tired and I've been inviting more women into my home. And so a lot of these women that I've been meeting will just sit on my kitchen table and I'll just listen to their story. It's very organic. You know, what's going on? How can I pray for you? Like, where do you need advice? Let's see what the, what the Lord has to say about this. And we read scripture together. There's one girl we read scripture together every Wednesday afternoon and she comes over or we meet for coffee. And, and a lot of it, I'm just listening to what's going on in her life and pouring into her and.

I think it's really important for everyone listening. If you can go somewhere quiet, maybe today or tomorrow and pray and ask the Lord, God, where have you healed me the most? Where have you freed me the most? And then where can I find people that were just like me? And where are they? Where are they in my community? Where are they in my church? Where are they? And start trying to build relationships with them.

And sharing all that the Lord has done in your life. You know, we are called to comfort others in the same way that he comforted us. And, I, part of my story is I was covered in a lot of shame and there were a lot of things that I did in my past that just felt like who I was. And so I have a very soft spot for women that are walking in shame. and that's a future that's actually something else I'm working on as an, as a book proposal.

Amanda Hayhurst (26:18.488)
to help women overcome the shame from the things they've done so they can become confident in who God called them to be. But, you know, I just think it's important those places where you've gotten the most freedom to go back and help others find that same freedom.

Whitney Akin (26:31.864)
think that's such a helpful way to just say that, you know, because sometimes we think, well, how can God use me? But just thinking through that and praying through what you just said, what has God freed me from and healed me from is super helpful for just thinking about where we can love and minister to people. And it makes me kind of go back to the miracles through the Book of Mark, because we see Jesus doing that incarnate ministry that you're talking about, this that very relational hands-on

one-on-one ministry for people in need. And so we're called to reflect that in our own lives.

Amanda Hayhurst (27:09.22)
Yeah, yeah, because it doesn't have to be, sometimes these callings feel, it has to be this big calling, especially with social media. You know, it has to be this, have to make this big splash for the kingdom. If all of us, if the entire body of Christ found one person and did life with that person, important to that person, I mean, think about the impact we could have. Just one person.

Whitney Akin (27:31.444)
Absolutely. This one person and Jesus shows that balance of he's got the crowds too, right? But he makes so much intentional time for the one. We have a lot to learn from that in our day and age when we have social media and we have an opportunity to have a following, you know, but that can be really important and valuable, but also the one is too. So, yeah.

Amanda Hayhurst (27:38.143)
he definitely did have the crowds.

Amanda Hayhurst (27:51.215)
Yes.

Amanda Hayhurst (27:57.08)
Yes.

Whitney Akin (27:59.244)
So I know people are going to want to find you and your resources and connect with you. So can you tell us how to do that, how to find you and to find your resources?

Amanda Hayhurst (28:09.06)
Yes. so I would say I hang out most on Instagram. it's Amanda Hayhurst writes and my website is Amanda Hayhurst writes.com. so yeah. And I love, I love to, respond to DMS and emails and I, I love to build relationships. So please reach out to me if you want to chat about anything, but yeah, those, those two places are where I'm at the most.

Whitney Akin (28:32.11)
Thank you. Well, thank you for being on the show today, Amanda. I've really loved our conversation. It's been really good. Yeah. And friends, absolutely. And friends, hope you'll go and check out Amanda. Check out her social media. She's really great at social media. has some really great content out there and also her resources. I think they're going to be a blessing to many of you, especially the married couples out there listening.

Amanda Hayhurst (28:37.36)
Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me, girl.

Amanda Hayhurst (28:56.752)
Yes.

Whitney Akin (28:57.614)
And I know you're gonna be blessed. So that wraps up our show for today and friends. can't wait to study with you again