The Power of Prayer with Georgia Brown Williams

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Join Carson as he sits down with Georgia Brown Williams to discuss the transformative power of prayer. In this episode, Georgia shares her personal journey through college, the impact of her family, and the significance of maintaining a prayer life. Discover the importance of forgiveness, how to cultivate a prayer space, and the insights behind Georgia’s devotional 'Hi God, It's Me: 20 Days to a Stronger, More Powerful Prayer Life.' With engaging stories, practical advice, and heartfelt discussions, this episode is a valuable resource for anyone looking to deepen their relationship with God through prayer.

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Welcome to the Worship Keys YouTube channel. My name is Carson. Glad you're here. I want to thank Aerospace Audio for being a sponsor of this episode

today I'm with Georgia Brown Williams. Georgia, thank you for being here. How are you doing? Carson, thank you for having me. I'm great. I'm so excited about our conversation today. We're talking all about

prayer there's no better guest to have on the podcast than you, Georgia, to talk about prayer

so those of you who may not know Georgia Brown Williams, she just got married this past summer. Yes. And you are my DJ. I was in fact the DJ. So I do DJ weddings. But thank you for letting me DJ by the way. It wouldn't have been the same without you for real.

Thank you. My, now husband I can say, and I are just so grateful for who you are. And like truly, you mean a lot to us. Truly. And I'm just honored to be here because this podcast, The Worship Podcast, The key to worship is knowing who you worship and having that intimacy with him. You could have all the gear and know every inversion known to mankind, which is great.

But if you don't have the spirit, like it really is all in vain. And so I'm really glad that we're having this conversation today. I met Georgia back at MTSU in school. I was in grad school for audio production. You were in undergrad for songwriting.

 I do want to mention that Georgia has this devotional called Hi God, It's Me.

It's 20 Days to a Stronger, More Powerful Prayer Life. Georgia Brown. And we'll link we'll link this devotional here in the description, but this is really encouraging because it has personal stories of your life, which people can connect to. And of course the scripture, and it goes through the Lord's prayer and how we should pray.

 So Georgia Brown Williams now, of course, as of this past summer, but she's an author. She's also a podcaster. She has her own podcast faith and friends.

You need to check it out really cool has some great episodes with ryan as well. She's a worship leader at global Vision here in Nashville

and this song's been out for a few months now, but Miracles, Signs, and Wonders.

Yes. Tell us a little bit about that. Yes, absolutely. So our first single with Global Vision Music that has come out is called Miracle Signs and Wonders, and really it came out of just a prophetic moment during service one of our worship leaders, KD, just started repeating Miracle Signs and Wonders over and it just stuck.

And so we just took that and over the next couple of weeks, we'll just be in worship and we'll stick that in there somewhere and it just was flowing. And so one day we had a little songwriting session and it was Me and our pastor pastor's wife. She is a songwriter. Amen. All of us. If you just stay in the spirit, I truly believe anyone out of the overflow of their heart can write songs.

I truly do believe that because he says, sing to me a new song. And so really we all have it in us because whatever is the overflow of your heart, the mouth speaks really, everyone has the capability to make a joyful noise and to write songs out of your heart that no one else can sing. And so we just started just speaking life and we started the verses say, Hey, dry bones.

It's a time. It's time for me to prophesy life again. Hey death, it's time you lose your hold on me. And we started. Speaking out these things within that chorus like just repeating over and over you're the god of miracle signs and wonders And truly proclaiming it until you believe it because I think so often

even like the older generation like my parents Love them and my mom will definitely be watching. Hi mom mama brown, it's so incredible, but They don't like often when you repeat things. They're like, this is just getting so repetitive. Like i'm just done But here's the thing. I truly believe we need to repeat it until we believe it Or sing it from a different place sing it for that person that maybe doesn't know him or have experience And so I think it's incredible to repeat things until you believe them and you start prophesying life into these areas where there may be dry bones or there may be death when you think it's just dead, but it's actually buried and the Lord's bringing new life to it.

That's where the best songs I believe come from those spontaneous moments of staying in the spirit because so often we can Really overthink it absolutely overthink it and that was me for so many years I thought I couldn't songwrite anymore Like after school and I got a whole degree for songwriting and covid hit and all this stuff And then I just stopped songwriting I left school doing full time ministry, which from a public secular state university, that's pretty crazy.

I'm like, Lord, only you could do that. But he truly is the God of miracle signs and wonders. Literally, you have to go into the wilderness to see the miracle signs and wonders. And so many of us, we want to get out of our wilderness. But that is where we see water from a rock.

That's where we see the sea split as you go into that wilderness. It's just beautiful. And that's where you overcome the enemy just as Jesus did. And so it's beautiful. So this song, it's one of my favorite declarations. And I just pray it blesses people.

I'm telling you what the floodgates have just opened. I think once you give your yes to him and it comes from a pure place. He truly is just looking for someone he can trust. So it's just all about being trusted with his presence. And so I want to be trusted with more songs.

The songs from heaven. 

Very powerful. So really cool Definitely check out their music. Really cool that you and ryan are ryan's producing that yes, and You're writing and singing a lot of that, which is really cool, but I want to start off the whole subject of prayer, I'm really just going to go with your devotional here.

I love it. I was just reading through. It makes me so happy. And I'm like, okay, these stories are really golden. I love this on page 15, the, our father in heaven, the perfect dad I love this little this portion of your devotional where really more towards the beginning of it.

And it talks about your childhood talks about when you were five years old learning the piano. And a lot of my listeners will relate to being five years old, six, seven, and maybe, you Maybe you're listening and you, your family couldn't afford lessons at five, six, seven. I know I didn't have lessons till I was nine and I remember my grandparents helped sponsor the, paying for those lessons.

And like I was begging my parents for lessons and finally got my first lessons when I was nine. And you had your first lesson when you were five years old. 

So the story he's referring to is, In my childhood, the piano and my dad. So in the context of the devotional, we're talking about our father in heaven and how the Lord wants us to pray to him as father. He could have said so many different things, like great and majestic, mighty one, which is true creator of the universe.

It's true. Alpha omega beginning in true, but there's an intimacy that comes with the word father and it's often hard for a lot of people. They may have not had a relationship with their father. And really how we see God is how we see our earthly father. So if we only go to the, our earthly father with good things, we're only going to go to God with good things.

We're not going to go to the hard, whatever it may be. But. Yeah, I shared this story about learning piano And I started at five and it was basically because my mama dragged me there because she said please help me My daughter just needs to focus on something just give her something to do and this see At five years old.

I thought my piano teacher was old, but then when I got in high school, she was still old So she was just a legend in town of teaching piano. That's awesome. And she's let me just see Let me just see where she's at and i'll see if i'll take her because I don't usually start till six Because, developmentally, learning to read, all that stuff.

And so she, after a little, piddling around, she said, okay, I'll take her. And that began my journey. And my dad loves music. He was in a band in high school, all the things. Plays the guitar all the way around the house. Harmonica while he's driving down the road. Banjo when I was little.

And then my mom said, get rid of that. The kids are trying to study. My dad, I get my love for music from my dad, for sure. We had Beatles rock band growing up. Carson, it was just a great time. And y'all's first, y'all's dance at your wedding? I was not expecting that. I was expecting something.

Yeah. Because I knew I had the music beforehand. Huh. But the whole choreographed things that y'all had. So fun. That was awesome. So fun. I was hoping people would get it because we did like the traditional slow dance, right? And then he wanted to do sweet georgia brown from the harlem globe trotters Which I don't know if a lot of people know who the harlem globe trotters are these days But you know their theme song is sweet georgia brown.

Yes My name changed that day, but I will always be his sweet George Brown. He had a basketball. We were just we had a whole routine Yeah, I'm glad you caught that. That was so fun. That was cool. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna have to post that clip I'm gonna have to find that but Starting back at the basics of the love for music.

He really helped with that. He really instilled a love and a respect because there were many moments growing up. I didn't want to practice, but he made it fun and I never realized it. I always thought I got the leg up of the deal, but every morning he said, if you just play me one song, I will make your bed.

And I was like, Okay, and so I'd go in there and I'd play him a song and then it would end up being two or three, but literally that was probably one of my most cherished childhood memories. And now raising my own son of him making his bed every morning, knowing that I could flood our home every day.

Every day with music come on. And my dad would make my bed, tuck in the pillows, put all the stuffed animals up there. That is so sweet. And here's the thing, Carson, he did it all the way through high school. Wow. Which is so special. And so I'm so excited. I'm actually gonna cry. I'm gonna see them next week.

And to think about that, that you only get to do that. your childhood, your life, make these memories once. And so how is a way that you can cheer on your child, your student, your mentee in this area of the things that God has naturally given them, but they just need to be cultivated more. Like that is something as people that we should really press into.

How can we pour into them? And yes, that can look like praying for them, But it can look practical too and just walking alongside them. And so my dad traveled a lot and so he knew I will be there in the mornings. I might not be there at bedtime, but in the mornings I can be there for her. And that, that made all the world of difference for me.

And so I just love that story. Yeah, I did too. That was really cool. And what a great, story, just speaking of your dad. And what a great dad he was. So that is awesome. You spoke about this just a minute ago, how we view God.

Yeah. Dictates a lot of what happens and how we think he views us. Influences a lot of details in our lives. Can you speak on that whole perspective of how we view God and how he views us that will affect our prayer life?

Oh, goodness. That's everything. It's all about trust and intimacy in a friendship. If you don't trust your friend, you're not going to go to them with the hard yes. And out of anything, yes, he wants you to see him as he is. father, but he is also your friend. He is the good shepherd. He is the great I am.

He is the alpha omega beginning and end. He truly is your savior. And if you don't see him as those things, you're not going to revere him as those things. You're not going to respect him in those ways. And that's why it really comes down to you have to read the word. You have to know him like you can know of him right from your parents from maybe going to church on a Sunday morning or whatever, but it's all about a personal relationship and that's where your prayer life will change.

It won't just be this. Now I lay me down to sleep repetitive thing or even repeating the Lord's prayer. Our father who art in heaven, I started saying that in church from before I can really walk. I was hearing it. And just this repetition there's beauty in repetition as we know with practicing scales Everything you need that muscle memory, but when can we go from muscle memory and words on a page to just Prophetically flowing come on.

That's also our prayer life, too Because I was classically trained in piano. So when I would see I need to play this here I need to make sure this gets louder crescendo decrescendo all these things and I thought this is what music was like for real I just thought this was it. So then when I get to college and they're like just play I didn't know I could do that.

Yeah. Like for real. Yeah. I said, that's a thing. And so it took me having to unlearn some systems so I could press into the spirit of different things. I think the same thing goes for our prayer life. Someone will tell us this is how you do it. Just close your eyes, just fold your hands, get on the side of your bed.

Like we've seen on the front of little covers of books our whole life or whatever. But seriously, it is All about intimacy. Like you can be driving down the road and just be talking to him. Like you would your best friend. If they were sitting right next to you, you can go for a walk and just be at the top of your lungs.

If you need to, like he already knows. So why don't you tell him? And yes, it talks about that in the scripture where he already knows what you're going to say before you pray it. That still means you should pray it. If he didn't know that wouldn't be God. And man, it is all about friendship and intimacy.

And I think too, it comes down to you being honest with yourself of where you're at. And so it is all about honesty. And God can handle our honesty. Oh my gosh, He wants it. He wants the big and the small. Like He created you and only one. Yeah. And so that is on purpose. And so get to know the heart of the Father by getting to know Him in His word.

Because then all these questions you ask about yourself, who am I? What am I supposed to do? What's my career? What am I supposed to do with the things that you've given me? You'll find that out when you find out who's you are because you'll be confident. You'll be standing on your solid foundation to say, Oh, I can use this for the glory of God.

Come on. Oh, I can go mentor someone. Oh, I can walk alongside someone. I can serve my local church while still having my day job that I love or whatever it is because it is all worship. Not just the three and a half or. song that we do. Melody, really, your whole life is worship and that is a key to it, is let your whole life be prayer.

Come on. Truly, we prayed before we started let your conversations with God start when you wake up, the moment you wake up, and you pick up the phone, you say good morning, and until you go to bed that night and you say goodnight, that's when you hang up the phone. That's good. That's good. And he's still praying.

Covering you and praying for you seating next on the right hand side of the father Yeah, making intercession for the Saints even while you're sleeping Come on, so and in this devotional you talk about how you used to find yourself waking up scrolling used to find yourself Yeah distracted and I've been there.

We've all been there. Whoo Can you speak on that of the priority of prayer? I know you speak on that emotional. Can you speak on that right now? Yes, it is definitely a priority. We make time for what we believe is important. Yes, truly. We all have the same 24 hours in a day. There's 168 hours in a week and it's up to you.

If you're going to practice, it's up to you. If you're going to eat, exercise, go to church and pray. Absolutely. And truly you just need to make it a priority and integrate it into your life. Yes. Because it'll go to expose what is actually on the top shelf of your heart. That's good. Is it the Lord? Is the Lord on the throne of your heart?

Or is it everything else that you do? Come on. Or is it who's you are? So good. And man oh man, I started waking up in college at 633, because my favorite Bible verse is Matthew 633, which says, Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. Which was the scriptures before, which talked about why are you worried about clothing or what you're gonna wear?

Yet the birds they do not labor or spin, and yet your heavenly Father provides for them. Even Solomon and all of his splendor, clothed with the riches and glory, all of that. The Lord's gonna take care of all that. Yeah. But, Matthew 6, 33, but seek first, seek and you shall find, Matthew 7, 7 says. So if you seek, you are going to find.

So if you start praying, you're going to start understanding a little more. You're going to start lingering a little longer. And so that's what I've started to do first. And every day, really since then, when I made that conscious decision, it started small because my capacity was small, the same amount that will starve an elephant will stuff a mouse.

And so I was this little mouse starting my little prayer life. Didn't really understand, right? But I knew all the right things, went to church, all the things my whole life. But now it's up to me, right? Mom and dad are at home, I'm in college, I'm figuring this out. Trying to be a big girl. And I just had five minutes.

That was my capacity. You woke up at 6 33 as a college student. Yes. If you're a college student, you can wake up at 6 33. You can do this for my 8 am. I had to get up. I had to spend time because I knew that was a priority. My whole day would be whack without him because it would be nothing. It would be null and void because it wouldn't be on his foundation.

It would be on mine and pride comes before the fall and I would fall. If I didn't have him. And so I would open up my Bible app, find the verse of the day, figure out where that was, highlight it, sit on it, and just pray it out loud. And just ask the Lord to cover my day. But before you know it, your capacity gets bigger and larger.

And then you want to get up earlier because you're realizing 633 ain't enough time. And so then you get new seasons of your life. And you're trying to figure out how can I adjust this to now? Yeah. Yeah. Getting a child ready for kindergarten. I gotta get up, at five 30 to get him up at six 30.

So it's just the most beautiful journey and knowing that each season is gonna be different. But here's the thing, it's a building block onto the next . And so all the things that we've been given and cultivated and learned over the years, like that's not. For nothing. I pray that whatever your season is right now, your ceiling, I pray that it'll be next season's floor.

That it'll be your children's floor, your grandchildren's floor, that truly you just continue to be a roof ripper for your friends and truly be lowering people and yourself down to Jesus daily and allowing you to truly beat the crowds because you're going to him in intimacy and in confidence, beseeching the throne of God.

And so it don't despise small, humble beginnings. It's supposed to be that way. Everything a tree needs starts in a seed. That's right. Come on. You're preaching. Preaching. I know your story just cause I've been following you for some years now and many of your faith and friends know your story.

But many of. If maybe some people that are listening now don't know your story as well. So tell us about when God just totally transformed your life, took you to that new level in him, that new depth in him in your college years. Take us through that transition of like middle school, high school, college, and what really flipped the switch and the encounters you had.

I know this could literally be five episodes long, but goodness, tell us a little bit of your testimony and how you've made it a priority to. You started a prayer closet, right? Which I can relate to that. I had a prayer closet as well when I was younger. No way. Yes, I did. I did. And my first album was actually called Songs from the Prayer Closet at 10, 10 years of age.

And I've never shared this on the podcast yet, but since I'm also with another person who's had a prayer closet and has a prayer space, that's really the main point. Yes. Is to have a space, a dedicated space where you can pray, but anyway take it away. Tell us your whole story, the whole testimony of the prayer closet, where that started and even where that is right now, while you're married and with a kid, like how does that still look like?

It's so funny. I want to hear about how your prayer closet started at 10. That's crazy, but okay. I'll share first. Then you got to tell me because that is beautiful. Okay. So I grew up in the church with four generations of my whole family who had the kids, parents, grandparents, great grandparents. So we were all in.

And so we grew up Lutheran actually. And yeah, that was just life, you know My mom was very much involved with the youth and my dad was on the praise team And so that was just my normal and at nine years old carson I stopped going to sunday school and I started singing next to my grandpa.

Yeah on the stage just up there, just having a ball, not really understanding the mantle of what that meant.

I just knew that I loved to sing and my grandpa was up there and I wanted to be next to him. And so then, go through teen years and that's just hard. Being a girl is hard. You wouldn't know, but let me tell you what, let me tell you what, it's hard and trying to go through high school and try to navigate that while being in church, but trying to do it without Christ.

It just doesn't work out very well. And so I had one friend that truly made all the difference for me, and I met her on the school bus, and she started showing me what it looked like to live out my dreams. being a Christian. And I was just blown away that you could be that bold and upright at 15, 16 years old and just be steadfast.

And nope, this is what we're going to do. This is what I believe. We're not going to fall to the left or the right of what other people are doing. Not that I was like some heathen. I wasn't, I was like, I've always been just a little innocent me, but falling into the traps of comparison or wanting to look like them and buy the same clothes that they have or keep up with the trends.

And man, it just doesn't ever work out. And I think that's so important. still happens trapped for so many adults too. If they don't get a grip on who they are in those first formative years of your life, you're always going to be chasing, trying to keep up with the Joneses, but they're broke anyway.

So you just need to, you just need to let go. And so just be the you that God's called you to be. And so by seeing that lived out through a friend that knew who she was in Christ, I was starting to see, Hey, Who am I in Christ? Yeah, but it really wasn't until I made that shift to go to college to leave the home Yeah, that really reality will smack you in the face of like absolutely.

Okay. It's up to me now, right? If I do practice if I do go to church, I gotta find a church now I'm in a totally different state. I don't know anybody here, right? And so that's when your faith really Becomes walking and has feet and you started, you got to start walking this faith journey out.

I think it's beautiful because your parents are called to instill all those right seeds in you, train a child up in the way that they should go so that when they get older they will not depart from it. We have a lot of prodigals out there. It's beautiful. And the prodigals always come home as we see in the story of the prodigal son.

But truly when those seeds are planted and they get watered. Then you start to see the fruit and so I started seeing some good fruit in college when I started realizing I'm gonna do this myself. That's good And so I got plugged into the college ministry that we were both a part of And I realized for the first time in my life.

I need to get off the stage off the altar Because from when I was 12 to 18 We had left that Lutheran church and we left with half the congregation, the denomination at the time, Carson was going through a huge split with all this politics and stuff. I was 12. I didn't understand. All I knew is my mom said we're not going back to that church.

And that was my first experience with church hurt. And that was really hard for a little kid thinking, cause I sang at that church meeting and I wondered, did I not sing good enough? And so these questions start to come in your mind. And so when we started a church, they handed me a hymnal and they said you know how to play piano.

You're going to be our music leader. So I was the youth group and I was the music leader because it was just me and my brother and cousin and two other kids. And I led the congregation of about 50 people that were like three fourths on the way to heaven. You know what I'm saying? Like they were up there.

It's a good way to put it. Amen. They were a little older, but it was beautiful. But I had to step up not because I wanted to, but because I had to. And so I think too, We put people in leadership, maybe sometimes prematurely or without a spiritual foundation. So even when I was trying to find my feet or just learning how to crawl as a Christian, I was having to be at a place of leadership where they're saying, okay, go run a marathon.

Lead us and Paul says, follow me as I follow Christ Yeah But how can you follow me if I don't even know who I'm supposed to follow? Come on. And so I was doing all the right things from 12 to 18. I would show up to church I would I really was a pretty good girl, you know I'll get up there play my piano and sing and no one would know that I really truly didn't have a pure intimacy with The Lord of that John 15 of abiding in the vine.

Yes, come on. But I think too for so many of us, we need to realize when is it time for us to maybe take a season off.

off the stage behind the scenes to get poured into. So I held a door, I handed out a bulletin, I got plugged into a small group and after a year off I got plugged in at the point and at a new vision in Murfreesboro. And I started pouring my heart out. I was leading worship four days a week. And it was out of a place now out of the overflow.

I think so many people that are leading worship don't do it out of the overflow. And it is so easy. Evident to and it breaks my heart. I truly believe it breaks the heart of the father too, because that's not what he called you to. He never said, Oh, just go pour out. He said, no, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh.

It is not you. So I need you to live out of the overflow. So that's why now all these years later, never thought I'd be 25 and full time on staff at a church that truly changed my life. Met my husband there, be raising my son there, writing songs there. And truly just pouring into the local body it's out of the overflow.

It has to be, it has to be because when I'm up there on a Sunday morning, you're just getting my overflow. My life is, it's about that private time in that prayer closet that I started in college. So backtrack, the prayer closet It came from a hard moment, Carson. And I think that's where the best things do.

Because that's when the real happens. I lived in an apartment right off campus. I think it was called The Grove. Right off campus. And my roommate came up to me and we sat on the couch. And she's Georgia, I just gotta tell you. I went to a party and some things just went wrong. And I said no, and they kept going.

And it was for the first time in my life that I realized, wow. I can't do much about this situation. And I'm so heartbroken for this friend. I don't even know what to pray. And so my prayer in that moment looked like a hug. I wasn't even confident enough to pray out loud over her and have authority in prayer.

Yeah. And that's really sad as a Christian ones that she knew that she could come to me because she felt safe. She knew that I loved God and that I was in church, but my prayer Was not cultivated. It was really a weed grown garden instead of flower bearing. Yeah. And so after that, I remembered a movie.

It was tucked in my back pocket, War Room. Yeah. And I remember the sweet little old lady, Miss Claire, would pray in her prayer closet. And that apartment was the first walk in closet I've ever had in my life. In Arkansas, Carson, you just open up that door and just grab what you need and go.

 After that conversation on the couch, I went back to my door, my, my little room, and I closed the door, and I walked into that little closet that was definitely like shoe box size, and I closed the door, and I sat down, and I just prayed the most honest, simple, raw prayer that I'd ever prayed for that friend.

And every day since then, I've lifted up someone else in prayer, stuck it on the wall as a physical representation of, I have to leave this here. I have to physically lift this up to the father. It is not my cross to bear, but I know the one that already bore the cross that truly tore the veil from top to bottom.

It is finished. Like it is done. And so that changed my life. And then three moves later. And now a three bedroom apartment with my son's bedroom right next door. Now we have a prayer room. That's so cool. And it's so beautiful how when you can be entrusted with the little, the Lord has brought it from a closet now to a room that our son knows we don't wear shoes in the prayer room.

You can come in and you can pray and you can draw pictures to Jesus cause he's five, and so we're figuring out he knows, Miss Georgia, that's what he calls it. me. That's where Miss Georgia and daddy pray. And it's just super beautiful. And I want people to know too, it doesn't have to be a prayer closet.

It can be a chair in the corner of the room. It can be your bathroom mirror with prayers all over. It can be your car. It can be your garden, wherever you just truly get alone with the father and say, I'm going to consecrate this place unto the Lord. Come on. This is his. Yes. Because sometimes we say it's all His, but we don't actually give it to Him.

Like we say our heart is His, but we still have that one section to ourselves. That one, basement that we don't want to open or the attic that we don't want anyone to see or that junk drawer. Truly, what if you gave some space over to the Lord? Like you'd see a transformative just reality that you'd get to walk in and it doesn't have to be a dream or a fantasy.

It can be today. I love that. I love that. And I want you to share specifically, I remember I was over there at y'all's apartment tuning the piano. Yeah. And you were speaking about this prayer room, but. You were in a little bit of a battle between that room. Can you speak on that? Because here's the thing, the practicality of this. People that are in production, people that are in music you want to have your music space. You want to have your production space. You want to have your, if you're a writer, you want to have your writer space.

You want to have things that are, design for your work and what God has called you to do with excellence. And when you're in a three bedroom apartment and one's for your child, one's for your living space, the other one, is sometimes dedicated as an office space or a production space or a studio.

So speak on that. Why did you choose, and this is hard to do. Why did you say, I choose this to be a prayer room because These two individuals, Georgia and Ryan, are both very extremely talented in music and in production. Ryan produces. He needs a space to mix and to hear and do what he's doing.

But why did you guys prioritize prayer? In that space tell us that journey that struggle. Yeah, it was definitely a struggle because I thought oh, This is perfect. I had it all planned out. It's gonna be my podcast studio I had been dreaming of having that space. I already had the wallpaper picked out.

I asked the apartment complex Can I put some just removable wallpaper the sun comes in perfectly this way. It's gonna be great I'll have this set up because camera magic I can have my desk over there for writing. It'll be perfect Right And then the Lord wouldn't let me.

I wrestled. And you know that tug? And you're like, what? That gut instinct. He made your body to work the way it's supposed to. That gut instinct that said, you're not supposed to do this. And I was like, but why Lord? It does not make sense. And the Lord said, I want that room. That room is for you and me.

And it was one of the most hard decisions to come to the reality of. He wants all of me. He even wants this. How am I going to podcast? The questions start arising. How am I going to podcast? How am I going to write? Like, where am I going to even put this desk? If I give this room to you, can I have my desk in the corner?

No. Sell the desk. Actually no, better off, give it away. Give it to someone that you know needs it. Did you really? Did you really? You just gave it away? And I just had bought the desk, built it. It was this cute little golden white from Amazon. Loved it. And the Lord said, give it away. And I did, to a sweet girl that was just about to get married for her first house, an apartment with her man.

And what are you willing to give up for the Father? Yeah. Because it's been better than I could ever ask, dream, or imagine. Because guess what? Once He showed me that I am his, this space is his. That's when he can start adding to it because we consecrated this room to him. It has a TV in there that we pray, like play worship instrumentals.

We'll go in there in the morning time, even when Ryan can't sleep and he's restless, he'll be in there. And it's beautiful to see a grown man cultivate his prayer life and his intimacy with father. He knows he can produce at the kitchen table late at night when But he's wide awake and he's just in his own world with the Lord.

It's beautiful. Then the Lord can give back because then one day the Lord said, you can podcast in here. This is my room. My presence is here. You guys can talk about me in here. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, what? Like this? I thought this meant no. Not always is the Lord meaning no. It can be a not yet, but it takes that one step of obedience.

I think about Abraham and Isaac where he said, the son and I are going up to worship. The first mention principle in scripture, that's what something means, right? So the first time worship was mentioned is in a sacrifice. So our sacrifice and dedicating this room to the Lord. Yeah.

It was so beautiful because they went up to worship and Isaac didn't know he was about to be sacrificed by his own father The greatest gift that he had longed for years right decades, right? But then he so believed the lord so much that he would you know, raise him from the dead or whatever was going to happen Yet the lord Had a replacement, had a ram stuck in the bush.

And so for us, our sacrifice was a room for some people, it may be waking up 10 minutes earlier before work to spend time with him. Is it worth the sacrifice? Because it says, I think it's second Samuel 24, 24, check me. I will not give to the Lord, which costs me nothing. That's just gonna be my reality because if we truly believe this life we go glory to glory, if we truly say I'm a follower, I'm more than a follower, I'm a disciple maker, I'm a child, I'm seated in heavenly places with him.

You're worth whatever you ask me to give you. Yes. It's yes before I even know. Yes. Is that your heart posture? If he said, I need you to step away from this for a little bit, to spend time in my presence. Would you or if you're on the altar, the stage, the platform at church, and he's saying, Hey, there's some pride here.

There's some secret sin. They may not know about it. I know you and I do though. Because he's coming back for a spotless bride and that is a key to worship like knowing him crucified knowing who you are in him and staying pure that's what it's all about and prayer will keep you pure yes because it will expose everything that's so because he'll just start speaking like People are like, oh, God doesn't speak.

Yes he does. Yes. Yeah. He is the living God. Yes. So he's living, he's alive, but also his word is alive and active. Come on. So it's the only book that when you read it, he's gonna read you right back. So it's beautiful. That's great. It's a journey. And I'm just really glad that I said yes to him because that prayer room has blessed me so much, so amazing.

And so I'm circling back. At 10 years old, tell me how you, why, like, why did you start a prayer room? That was before the movie War Room. Like, how did you hear about a prayer room? So well, first of all, that's very encouraging what you shared. I want people to hear that and know that you guys collectively too, now as a married couple y'all decided this room is dedicated more to prayer than production.

Yes. More to prayer than practicing. More than writing more than producing all the P words, right? And here's the thing. All those other things will come from that. Yes. Like our best songs come from that prayer time for real. It's crazy. If we only would realize if we would just tap in a little deeper, it's all there.

Come on, like truly, like we think that we have to keep it compartmentalized or whatever. Yes. No. The secret, if you want it, the secret. It's being the secret place. Come on. Yes. Be in the presence. Cause that's when the prophetic will flow forth because that's what you want, right? You want to give this side of eternity something that they've never seen before.

And he wants to do that through you. But if you're not tapped in, you ain't going to know what that is. Yeah. 

 So when I was 10 years old I started a prayer closet and this is how it started. My parents were youth pastors for eight years and in the middle of that time I think they started pastoring when I was five or six years old.

So I went to a conference that they would, used to bring their youth group to called The Ramp in Hamilton, Alabama, which I know Ryan's been to, right? Have you ever been to The Ramp? I have not. But I know all about it.

Okay. Okay. Karen Wheaton Ministries. Love Miss Karen. But anyway, the ramp has been a very, was a very influential part of my life as a child. So that was a very key thing was I attended a lot of the ramp conferences and services starting at like age nine, 10, 11. So I wasn't quite, teenage years yet, but I would go with the youth group and other, just tag along.

And I loved it because if you know the ramp and places like the ramp, such as your church and other places that are very intense places to be in. It's the intensity of the presence of God in the room is what I mean, because sometimes you'll have just. almost nothing going on and people just crying out before the Lord, or the band's going crazy and we're all dancing.

These services could go two, three, four hours plus. And it could be it could be a service with two or three hours worth of music and worship, or it could be two or three hours worth of a lot of testimony and preaching. But so when I was 10, I remember I encountered God in a real way at the ramp.

And sometimes I shy away from saying these things because when you talk about charismatic things There you know people sometimes are shut down by charismatic anything but when I was 10 years old I encountered the lord in a real way in the room and I remember distinctly this one service.

It's a whole conference long But there's one service where I remember just the prince of god You Knock me out. Flat out. A lot of people have to, if you grew up in the church and you don't have this, you've never experienced this, you have this hardened heart towards it until maybe one day it happens to you.

And so I remember laying on the just on the floor in the presence of God not by my own desire to be on the floor, but because of guys, we'll make sure that's clear that it was not my intention, but I ended up on, on the ground and just like the Prince of God and feeling my stomach just like just overflowing and almost tight, almost sore in that service.

Feeling the love of God and just knowing. who I am because of this. And in that conference there were lots of testimonies that were shared. And in one of those testimonies someone shared about their prayer closet. And I was like, I want a prayer closet. Cause a lot of people will come to the ramp or other places like that and encounter God.

And they say, okay, now what do we do when we go back home? Cause otherwise it's just a camp high. It's just a service high, which we've been there. But how do you cultivate that seed that's been planted, right?

So they're like go home and start a prayer meeting. That's always been the heart of Miss Karen Wheaton and the ramp and other ministries is, Hey, how do I take this back to my home church? How do I take this back to my own personal life? Start praying. They're like, make a prayer closet. So I remember going home and I'm one of four. So we, I shared rooms until I was like 13 years old, but I created a prayer closet. And we had a tiny walk in closet. It was enough. You could go in as a square, but it was like, you could go in a little bit.

And I remember I had a prayer closet, I had a notebook and a Bible. And I would a lot of times pray and write songs. I had a CD player, tiny little CD player. And I would put in. Music from Rick Pino, Eddie James just like. Jason Upton, a lot of different artists, worship artists, and I would just pray in there.

Sometimes it would be 15 minutes. Sometimes it literally, Georgia, it literally would be two or three hours I would be in there. At 10 years old. At 10 years old. That is just so cool. It just, and I fell in love with the presence of God so much during that time. When I was 11, I started writing the first.

And and then I just started playing more and writing more from there. And the, my first album was songs from the pro closet and then, which none of them would have been radio hits. You know what I'm saying? And then I did a second album called on my face referring to the whole revelation of Laying flat before the Lord on your face, right?

There's so much of that. Yes laying prostrate Just laying just like on your face before the Lord was such a big revelation For me so yeah, the prayer closet was birthed in from that conference and moved into How was I supposed to cultivate that and i'm telling you like I had Even greater experiences that were even deeper and deeper in that prayer closet so far in my life, God has given me three open visions and two of those have been in my prayer closet and one was later on in college and open visions they are real.

I've experienced them. They weren't just, my, the figment of my imagination, but and what I had to say to that, by the way, if you ever get a dream or a vision or a word. Test it with the scripture doesn't match with the scripture because obviously There's bad Mexican food. You could eat the night before or it says that's right.

There's others like test. The spirit is exactly Many other that aren't the Holy Spirit absolutely that try to imitate or come in like mom I have to even do that with Ryder at 5 He's like I had a bad dream and because we pray every night like we pray that our dreams will be inspired by the Holy Spirit and so I'm having to teach him like okay that dream that wasn't from God so let's Let's heighten our discernment and to have that too.

And here's the thing, I have a question for you. Do you think you would have had all those experiences with the album of, songs from The Prayer Closet and all that, if you wouldn't have had The Prayer Closet? No, definitely not. You wouldn't have had those visions? Definitely not. That's crazy to think.

It really does start with the presence. Come on. Would you be here where you are today without that foundation at 10? That's crazy. I would not. That hunger. Stirring like that is just so beautiful Carson. That's crazy. Thank you. God is good. And that was so such a pivotal point in my life and we're I want to get back to you.

I don't want to keep just hogging. No, I love this. I love this

my parents were married 29 years and went through a divorce Senior year of high school my senior year of high school. That's hard and I remember I wrote a song called pray during that time and So I started talking to Holly's my wife and right during that time, and she asked, how can I pray for you?

And I thought through that a lot of times because a lot of people in that time were who were close with me and other people, Oh, I'm so sorry, all this is going on. Cause my parents were like, in a way, role models to some people and Christian figures to a lot of people.

So to see a marriage go down and, not solidify for longer than now, 29 years, a long time, but then, for it to just end in a divorce like that really hit me strong, really hit me hard. And that was the first real struggle in my life. When I was 17 years old and it was hard, it was really hard and many people can relate to being in a divorce.

Household and I, as Almost a full adult at that point still, just teenage years. I felt that you know in senior year and But I relied on the prayer closet. I relied on prayer. That's the point here and Holly asked me how can I pray for you? I wrote a song called pray and the chorus it was I went back.

I prayed in my prayer closet that day that night which by in high school I was working at chick fil a Love it as every good christian should That's where my brother met his wife. They both worked at Chick fil to Tanner. Yeah, shout out to Tanner. That's awesome. So fun. So you worked at Chick fil A? I did, yeah.

So I was in band too, so you know. My pleasure. I did a full days of school, then work. The Chick fil A shift from 5 And then I would do homework and prayer. And I wouldn't go to 1 or 2 a. m., but that's just, it's just life. So that night I went to my prayer closet.

And I was asking God I actually didn't have a lot of words to pray. And this was like seven years into having a prayer life. And some days there are still just, you don't have much for us to say. And I was broken during a lot of that time I didn't have a lot of words to say. And you have a section in your devotional time out like praying the Psalms.

That's a big thing. You just open up the book of Psalms, start praying and singing to that as step one, you could do that. Yeah. Today, if you have no words sometimes you are speechless and you're left with no words. And it's tears. It's tears. It was a lot of tears during that time. And I wrote this chorus just like God's speaking to me, don't pray, life gets better.

 Cause God has a plan. When the devil comes stronger than before, pray I'll have the strength to stand. Don't pray life gets easy. Don't pray for better days to come. Consider it pure joy, brothers and sisters, when you face trials of this world. And of course, it's illuminating the scriptures, right?

James. James. About considering it pure joy when you face trials of this world. And that was a big trial in my life. Huge. And we're tested through those times. Our faith is tested, trying times of college, and of course the next year going on to college, and I loved college undergrad was great, grad school was great, MTCU COVID hit, that kind of thing, but prayer, my, the prayer has been the pivotal point of the strength I've had in living people have been asking me, like, how did you get through this, how did you it's through prayer life.

And it's through worship. It's through music. So that's a small little part of my testimony But I totally relate by having a prayer closet. I did not I didn't post like the prayers on the wall or anything. I love that practice I've never tried that or done that. I've always had my notebook just right, but everyone has different forms different methods definitely Follow Georgia on Instagram and check out her page to see more insights and see some of those things within your prayer closet and what you do with your prayer room now and your podcasts, faith and friends.

But anyway, yeah, that's just a short little thing about my prayer life, but prayer is such, such an important part. Georgia, I want to keep going on with your devotional. Let's do it. A few more things here. So what do we do when we pray prayers that God does not seem to answer? So like in this page 35 you talked about in college you applied for this internship.

Yeah. And you didn't get it. No. One of your friends got it. Yeah. And you talked about, wow, that was a blessing because if I did get that internship, maybe this wouldn't have happened. So sometimes we pray and we hope that things happened and they don't. And I pray and I hope that my parents stayed married more than 29 years, but they didn't.

Yeah. And I pray for other things and it doesn't have. How do we reconcile that within our own mind and even our theology? What would you say to that, Georgia? Man, that was hard. When I didn't get that internship, I was crushed. 

Like it was the first year that Bethel was going to be here. So Bethel records was going to have an internship in Franklin. And I was so excited. I was like, this is it. Like all the other ones weren't Christian. Like I really wanted, I was the only one at that time in the songwriting department doing Christian music.

 I got to the final round. I met like the vp, you know on zoom and it was during that whole zoom era And then I got an email like four days later that I didn't get it and one of my friends got it And I didn't even know she applied for it.

Yeah, and I was like, I was so happy for her, but I was so confused why lord like this seems like my best? Yes. Yeah, like obviously, you know something I don't Yeah. And you'll wrestle with that. And I think that's where pride comes in the way of you think this is what I want. This is what I think is best.

What I, when the Lord's my ways are not your ways, it says in Isaiah, my thoughts are not your thoughts. If we could understand it with our brain, we wouldn't have to have faith. Faith about works is dead. We cannot please God. It says in Hebrews 11 without faith. So we have to have faith that through the things that we don't understand.

Like the divorce, or why the child's not here yet, or why they left, or why you didn't get that job, or promotion, or accepted into that college, whatever it is, I know it's big to you, and yes, it's big to the heart of God, and it breaks His heart too. But, it's for your good, and for His glory, for those who are called, and that love Him.

Yes. It says in Romans 8, 28, and truly like God. I wouldn't have not gotten through that if it weren't for faith. But what's so crazy too is I don't think I would be here. I think every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Amen. And that truly there's consequences and there's actions and there's steps of faith and there's all sorts of things that there's going to be doors open and doors shut.

Are you going to still praise him in the hallway? And right after that was when I got to go into writing this devotional, actually. Really? Would have never thought that would even, I never thought I'd write a book, first of all. That's cool. Never thought I'd want to write another, and another, and, just all these things.

Never thought I'd be on staff at a church. I don't think I, if I, in my pea sized brain, had my life planned out, it was going to be go to college, Get a songwriting deal, go work out a label, pitch some songs. Maybe if they like it good enough, then I'll get to do my own songs, do my own thing. But the Lord had better plans.

And that friend now works for them. Wow. And she loves it. That's amazing. And that's what the Lord had called her to. That's amazing. But the Lord called me a different direction. Yeah. And here's the thing. Are you willing to actually be the clay? Come on. Are you gonna allow him to be the potter and to let him do what he wants to do in and through your life?

Come on. Because you can beat down doors. You can't right people do it often, you know They'll buy the house prematurely when the lord said I didn't open that door and then the brook dries up And you're wondering why you're without He's not gonna let you starve. Amen But the lord's no, this is not where I have you i'm closing doors.

I'm trying to show you i'm actually over here But that's why in that prayer life You'll be able to hear that, you'll be able to see, because in Ephesians 6 with the armor of God, which is so important to put on every day, we end with the sword of the spirit, yeah. Amazing. Then it says, pray in the spirit, which is so important, everyone needs to.

Yes. But it says watch. Watch. Why? Because as you can see the enemy coming your way, you're not going to be caught off guard when it's right here. So if you're alert and awake in this hour, you'll be watchful and prayerful. And in your prayer life, you'll be able to discern and have higher wisdom and all these things.

And so that hurt in the moment, it felt really big. But looking back, I'm so thankful for the I'm so thankful that he knows better than I do. And he's my father and I'm his child and I'm to follow my father Even when I don't understand you don't have to understand to obey. Come on. So that's where I'm at with that So good georgia so good and I do want people to hear that because they might you might see this the worship keys.

You might see Georgia George's page or on YouTube or Instagram and you might think, Oh wow, like there's been, like a lot of great things happening. But the thing is, there are a lot of no's that lead to your journey, your ultimate journey to where God's called you 

 And so on page 50, when you talk about it's in the Lord's prayer, forgive us as we forgive those who sin against us. Can you speak about forgiveness in your life and your life and how.

Grudges can Sometimes keep us and hold us in our prayer life. Can you speak on that? Forgiveness is the gift you give yourself It truly is something could have happened 20 years ago, and they're not thinking of it, but you are yeah Truly forgiveness is the key to freedom Yeah, it really is and it talks about this in the lord's prayer and it talks about this in matthew 18 So in the lord's prayer As we see in matthew 6 forgive us as we forgive those who sin against us The lord is saying I will forgive you in the measure that you forgive We have been forgiven from everything.

Sin, death, hell, and the grave, he took the keys. Yeah. There's your worship key right there, amen. I will worship you because you took the keys, amen. Yes, that's good. And so many of us are holding on to things that are so small, which create bitterness. Yes. Which create bitterness in the bones.

Absolutely. And anger and resentment and all these things. And in Matthew 18, it talks about if you do not forgive. What the curse is that you will be given over to the torturers. Jesus and his kindness gives a parable and a story that we can understand of a master that forgives someone of a small, of a very large debt.

And then that person didn't forgive someone else of a very small debt. And he said, you wicked servant, like you didn't forgive. And I just forgave you of In today's dollars billion dollars and this person owed you twenty thousand and you didn't forgive them you about choked him out for real That's what it says in the scripture And it says you will be given over to the torturers and that may look different for a lot of people It may look like bitterness.

It may look like anger or resentment or not talking to your parents for 20 years Or whatever the case may be but it truly is the gift that you give yourself So you can lift your hands in worship because you can't do that when you're in chains And so man like you need to forgive it is a requirement.

It is a requirement, and it's beautiful. And love keeps no records of wrongs. So you need to keep short accounts. Short accounts with the Lord. If he's forgiven you think about how much of the measure you should forgive. And, they ask, how many times should we forgive? 70 times 7. 7 times, and Jesus is no, 70 times 7. They're like, oh, let's do the math real quick. No. Unmeasurable. That's the amount that you need to forgive. Not keeping a record of how many times because his mercies are new every morning. So should your level for forgiveness. That doesn't mean to forget and go back to, abusive ways or behavior or, circumstances in places that are not healthy.

Obviously, please have some wisdom and your head on your shoulders, but to let go of the torment. Yeah, and to get out of that imprisonment and walk into freedom. It's it comes down to forgiveness. So good. So good Thank you for sharing that What would you say? is the best advice for someone who's wanting to start a prayer space.

How can they take those small steps? You've shared that naturally as we're talking through your story, but what's some practical advice? I know you write down a lot of your prayers and you put a lot on the wall. Can you just speak into that? What are some practical things that people can do for their prayer life?

I'll share what I do and then y'all can just take it. And if you like it, it's yours, but if You don't have to. I have a prayer journal for myself. That's where I talk to the Lord in there. I just, it's just flows like a conversation. Sometimes I feel like Doug the dog from Up and I get like Squirrel.

So I like write it down. So I know, you know what I'm doing even between sips of coffee in the morning and just Oh, that's what I was saying. Let's pray. And then it's beautiful because you have a tangible place where you can go back to months, years later of oh my gosh, this is what the Lord did then in this season of my life.

Beautiful. Love that. Then, now that I'm married, well before then, I started a prayer journal for my future husband. Yeah. Loved that. If you don't know what to pray for your future husband, or you're out there even now, married and you're like, how do I even pray for this human being that I'm in close quarters with?

I started just praying head, shoulders, knees, and toes prayers of covering his mind. And I would just literally go body part from body part of eye gates, ear gates his lips, that his words would be kind, that his heart would be healthy, that his knees would always hit the floor and truly be uplifting.

at the altar and just everything. Like I would just, cause I didn't know his name, but I knew him by, I said this in my vows. I said, I knew you by my prayers. Because you were the fruit of that and it was beautiful I still see the fruit of it today of things that I prayed years ago in him and the things that I'm still praying for Him as a man of God and so I now have a journal for him of all his prayers But now that I have his Our son, I got my bonus baby.

I have a prayer journal for him as well of his journey. And if there's things I'm struggling with and stepping into parenthood I'm going to pray about it of this behavior. We've been correcting it. Now I'm going to pray about it. Now I'm really going to dive in. Oh, you had some bad dreams last night.

I'm going to pray about that. Oh, this, I'm going to cover you because I'm your covering. And I have power and authority over you in this season of your life. I'm going to take that to the Lord. So I have three separate prayer journals. Actually no four. So for I have one for our child that is not yet here Someday i'm praying over that of our future family together and that generation being birthed.

I'm just why not? Like truly like we need to be stepping in faith into all these areas that you're believing for just Pray and water that garden already. And so the prayer wall I still have praying for other people which I love ryder was so He came in there and he said, how many are on the wall?

Five loves to count. He counted. He went over everyone and they're all in different colors. So it made it easy for him. That man counted 101 prayers on the wall. I didn't even realize it was that many. Wow. Cause I, started it when I had moved in and we got married in June. So now it's, the fall.

It's just beautiful to see what small steps in the same direction will take you. It'll take you to beautiful destinations. And man, that's what I do. I write things down. I have my journals and all that. But maybe for you it's out loud. Maybe it's voice memos of prayers or whatever. But yeah, I just pray that you guys, have your own walk with the Lord.

That's all that matters to me at the end of the day. And that's really why I wrote this book was because I just want people to begin to cultivate their own space with the father because it changed my life and I know what he does for one man he does for another and I wanted to change their life too.

So good. And God just, once you get into his presence and you prioritize prayer, he will really amplify the calling that he has in your life to the fullest potential. Like you think, Oh, I'm going to turn this room into full production or full whatever. But if you just prioritize that space and that time for him, he's going to actually elevate that, amplify that 10 times more.

For real, like more than we could ask, think, or imagine. It's beautiful and I know you've seen the fruit of that too. Oh, absolutely. Thank you for sharing that and there is a book I do want to recommend but I mean your devotional is awesome Y'all definitely check that out But there's also a book that I recently came across.

That is when I saw it I actually thought of you and I was like, this is like a georgia brown type thing so even just the cover love it. It's called eliza and the dandelion song. That is so sweet Like You could have written this song, Frolicking With No Care in the World, in a Field of Flowers. Yes.

So it was written by Kyla Duckworth. So it's based on this 10-year-old girl, and it's based on the author's true story.

But basically her dad had a garden and florist or was a florist, had a floral company, and she was always confused why like the dandelions always got like, they had a field of dandelions, but it got cut down all the time because it was with the weeds. So basically it has a great really great story to it

 So at the end of the book, Eliza's talking with her dad. She's gone back and forth talking with her dad from the beginning of the book.

But at the end she had this competition, singing competition. She didn't win the competition. And so her dad was like you're still great. I still enjoyed hearing you sing. You did great. And then she's are you sure I did? I didn't even win. Like I'm not as good as the others. And then he's no I really enjoyed it and you don't have to.

And he would call her my little wildflower and say that my little wildflower, of course, I'm proud of you. I love hearing you sing and watching you grow, but I'm proud of you even when you're just lying out in the field doing nothing. And so it was God. I thought that was great. So good. And, especially for, and people listening as well, I know I'm very performance minded, Oh, I did this now, I just got to keep doing and God is still proud of us even when we're just lying there doing nothing.

Yeah. And even in prayer, when we feel like it's not producing anything, that's what I want to drive home. Home with this point and this book does a great job at especially for children, you know Because I don't think I knew that really that big revelation when I was 10 11 12 13, right? You want to make your parents proud

I wanted to do that and so And we do that too with making other people even in adulthood We're trying to please people and trying to do all these things But really even when we're just sitting in this presence singing miracle signs and wonders over and over again Like even when we're doing nothing like God is still he's doing everything.

Yes, he's proud. Yes. He's so proud of us So that's a great book. I love that. Isn't that awesome? Yeah, that's powerful. It's a great story It's a great story pretty short read but cool illustrations done by abby smith But georgia brown williams on the podcast. Thank you for sharing your heart your testimony Advice on prayer and so thankful that you came on the podcast.

Thank you so much. Oh my gosh. Thank you This is incredible I appreciate it guys. And I hope y'all have a great Thanksgiving. This is releasing here on Thanksgiving week. Carson, I'm thankful for you, friend. Me too. This is awesome.

It's crazy. And of course, when you're listening, it might not be Thanksgiving week when you're listening to this. Who knows? And then tune in to Tuesday Talk. Yes. With Georgia. Yes. Instagram. Yeah. Over at IamGeorgiaBrown. That's where I hang out. IamGeorgiaBrown. That's where she is. Follow her. I think you'll, if you've enjoyed this conversation, you'll enjoy more conversations with Georgia at her podcast, Faith and Friends is there anything that you're working on that you would like to share with us? A lot of new music. Okay. A lot. A lot. When I tell you. Ryan is working around the clock. We're hopefully going to have an album soon. Oh wow. With GV Music. And then personally I've been doing some writing.

 Hopefully we'll have another book to pick up here real soon. Wow. Can you share any more about that? Is it okay? Is it a devotional book? No, it's a chapter book. It's a chapter book. Yes, and that's all i'm gonna say It's a chapter book. So this is an even More in depth.

Yes, georgia brown. Yes, very personal. It might have to do a lot with relationships Oh, wow, i'm excited for this. Is it coming out 2025? Probably or maybe even farther than that. We'll see. We'll see. Stay tuned. Y'all gotta go. Yeah, stay tuned Awesome guys. Thank you, and we'll see you guys next week