What's New in the Sunday Keys App in 2026 with Owner of Sunday Sounds

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We welcome back David Pfaltzgraff from Sunday Sounds for a conversation on the latest updates in worship music technology. David walks through the newest improvements in the Sunday Keys app, including enhanced piano sounds, better use of tonic pads, and the new Loop Connect feature. He also shares how these tools integrate with Prime, Worship Tools Charts, and Presenter apps to create smoother, more efficient, and volunteer-friendly worship setups, along with practical tips for worship key players.

David Pfaltzgraff

The Worship Keys Website

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Welcome to the Worship Keys YouTube channel. My name is Carson Bruce, so glad you're here. We talk all things music theory, gear, industry and ministry for your worship keys playing. If this episode is beneficial for you or you have any questions as you continue to watch, feel free to comment below and I'd love to hear any feedback that you have along the way. So let's get into today's episode. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Worship Keys podcast. Today I'm with the amazing David Pfaltzgraff with Sunday Sounds. He's the founder, CEO. You just operate with a wonderful team with, with you. David, how is life for you recently? Man, it's been good, dude. Thanks for having me back. It's hard to believe it's been a year. It's been a whole year since what a year for keyboards. Absolutely. In a general sense, I would just like to acknowledge the monumental changes. Yeah, for real. It's actually been a lot of change. I mean, you know, yeah, worship music is always evolving and it's sort of the sort of fun, like even a year later we can have a different conversation about what Keys parts are doing. So I dunno. I'm glad to be back, man. I mean, what are you finding over the last year, what have you noticed that Keys players are talking about now? Well, you know, we had some organ specific episodes and it was really, really awesome. That's awesome. Oh yeah. So cool. It's so cool. I mean, the Hammond B three is awesome and. Your buddy and I met him earlier here at the Worship Innovators Conference. Your buddy Doug? Yeah, he's Aham. B three artist legend, bro. Yep. He's incredible. But I mean, we're talking about organs, but a lot of pianists and keyboarders can't play the organ. Right. But some can. Right. But for keys, sound design is always at the forefront route. Right. Right. And y'all might know Sunday sounds many of you do, and you use Sunday sounds. But last time last year we talked about the Sunday Keys app. Mm-hmm. And bro, that app is amazing. And they say there's an app for everything and y'all have made it super simple. Church keyboardist needed an app, right? Yeah. Right. Sure. And it's super simple, super intuitive. And last year it was all the rage. The AI patch builder was all the rage. You guys can check out that episode from last year, the best app to be using as a worship keys player. You can check out that episode from a year, about a year ago. So, one year ago we released that feature, like it was right, right. As we were cutting our episodes. Yes. Since then, we have, we've built 140,000 patches for 140,000, bro. It. That was such a weird feature to build. Right? 'cause it's, it's AI based, so we didn't know if it would really work Yes. Or how well it would work until it was pretty much done. Wow. So we built all the infrastructure, we wrote all the code, and then we described a keyboard sound for the first time and hit build and then. It didn't work. And then a hundred, you know, a hundred more times we iterated and then it finally started giving us interesting things. So it's been pretty cool. That's like the biggest milestone, I guess, for me over the last year, is just we've been able to give people a lot of patches they wouldn't have come up with otherwise. That's crazy. Using that patch builder feature. So that's incredible. That's in the we'll link. The last video, we talk about it a bunch in that one. So if you wanna Sure. If that sounds interesting, you can go check that episode out. Absolutely. And you guys can check out Sunday sounds. Library of tutorials of how to use all the things in the app. But today we're gonna give you an update on what's going on with Sunday sounds. Mm-hmm. Uh, or the Sunday Keys app. We're gonna talk about the difference between upright grand pianos, the different, sound libraries that you guys have been able to update. Mm-hmm. So be stay tuned for that. Also, we're gonna be talking about ambiance, the ambiance. Ambient pads. Yes. How do you say that? I'm saying that I'm messing up ambiance, ambiance. Yeah. The, the Yes. Yeah. Taste. Taste of the glory. Taste of the glory Cloud. Come in. More haze, more praise. Oh boy. Anyway, but we're gonna be talking about some tonic pads, which are both over on Prime and Sunday Keys. Actually. Is it the same pads on either one or is it different? Yeah, no, in this last year, we updated the tonic pad player in Sunday Keys, and then we took the exact same pad player and put it inside of the Prime app, which is our multi-track app for running your tracks live. Okay. Which is, which is pretty cool. Absolutely. And then we're gonna be talking about Loop Connect, which some of you might be actually using. I bet most of you guys are not using this. And I'm, I'm gonna save that. I'm gonna save that to talk about this. But Loop Connect, for one, you can, or you're gonna be connecting your Prime Loop community app for tracks, Sunday Keys app. The charts app on the iPad that has charts on it, and it automates presenter, which presents the lyrics and the confidence monitor. Yeah, we'll get into it in a little bit. All right. Let's start with ambience. Do it, man. Okay. Set the stage for us. Well, all right, so, and by the way, you probably wanna watch on YouTube if you're listening in podcasts. Glad you're here too, by the way. Please leave a review and rating if you can do it, if you have the time. But anyway, David, sorry to cut you off, man. But you're gonna wanna see the, the iPad screen? Um, sure. The iPad app, this is an app, the best app. I'm telling you, I'm not just saying this, we're not biased here On the worship keys, we talk about all kind of software and all kind of things, but this is the best standalone app. To run your worship key sounds. You're not boxed in. You talk about 140,000 different patches. That's incredible. And there's new patches every month that comes out with this app. It's not locked in. When you buy an actual hardware keyboard, which there are a lot of great keyboards out there, you're locked into those. Sometimes a few dozen, sometimes a few hundred, sometimes a few thousand sounds and variations. But with this app, it's, it's actually limitless. Um, and I don't mean to be sound like super, uh, keep going. You're doing a great job. Superfluous. I'll just sit back. I just sit back. But anyway, bro, take us the air man. Set the stage. Ambiance. Can I ask you a question? So yes. Like an ambience in in general ambiance. In general ambiance. I'm, when I, I think, think about that. We've got. Two approaches, right? You've got pads or ambient sounds that are tracking your keyboards. Right? Right. So like as you're playing with the piano or whatever, it's layered in and following along. Yes. And so that sort of stuff we have inside of the Sunday Keys Library and, and in your hardware or whatever software you're using of course I'm sure you have, if you're watching this podcast, you care enough to have figured out how to do that. But the other type of ambience is this sort of like droning pad. Thing. Yes. And so in Sunday Keys, we call that a tonic pad, just 'cause it's based around the tonic cord. There you go. Whatever key you're in. So come on. Music theory. Yeah. Just, that's all I know. But yeah, so I, I mean, I'm wondering if, if folks in your, in your audience are using that kind of approach to an ambient pad, is that something that you're seeing? Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Totally. So we just define it as anything that isn't responding to your playing but is in touch with or designed to fit underneath or alongside of whatever you might play. Yes. So the very first version of Sunday Keys, which was a main stage template back in 2017, that's when I used it, bro. Yeah. Okay. Undergrad of college, man. Yeah, thanks. An og. It had this thing called tonic and all it did was just play a one in a five with this like sort of. Ambient reverb, synth sound, and you would turn it on and it would just play one in five for hours. It brought the glory down, man. Well, back then that was all we could figure out how to get it to do, you know, it was very static and just a very basic layer. Mm-hmm. So then you could, you know, do stuff like just play, play piano on top, which is pretty dry. But if, if you don't want to, or maybe you have volunteers at your church and you're not comfortable with having pads that are actually playable, but you still need that extra bit of glue, then you can just turn on an ambient pad and fill that space in a nice sort of subtle way, and then that piano takes on. It just feels more supported. Absolutely. So the first version of tonic was just one in five, one synth sound. And then over time we figured out how to build in like some basic presets in main stage. Totally. When we released our standalone app, we had 12 different, uh, tonic pad sounds to choose from, and they were just like warm, bright, shimmery. Those sorts of things. 12 disciples of the Of the Sunday sounds. Yeah. We picked 12 for that exact reason. We had one named Judas. It was minor key. Oh no. Uh. So we had this sort of, you know, 12 different choices, 12 different sort of overall characters. And that was back when the app was first released, 21, 22. But we knew, we still felt that it was kinda limited, um, especially as you would go from like different keys, it would start to feel too high or too low. Mm. Just based on the, the context of where you're at and you were sort of locked into whatever those sort of 12 initial like samples were programmed to be. Absolutely. So we started building out this much more customizable tonic pad 2.0 experience in our app. So I'm gonna turn this pad back on. We'll go to the key of f. And I am gonna just select the preset by name here. And this is the screen for the new tonic pad player. Okay. And, uh, the way that this works now is instead of just one sound, uh, and then you can just pick between 12 different ones per moment of your service. Every preset in the 2.0 version of the tonic pad can have up to four different layers that you can mix together, so you can see 'em on screen here. This is just the first layer. Which is called Bell Pad, and it has this voice currently selected called melodic. Okay. So what that means is it's gonna play mostly kinda like right hand stuff with primarily still the one in the five. But the occasional two, the occasional three, like a passing four, it's more motion than just that one five, you know, diad thing. That could get a little droney, right? Pun intended. So we've got that first layer here, which is more melodic. The second layer is that sort of static one five. Thing. Mm-hmm. And I currently have the high voice selected, and that means it's a higher octave range. Absolutely. But I can tap on the voice option and choose different octaves. So here's mid, so I just drop same tone, but drop down an octave. Mm-hmm. And then drop down one more octave to the low. So just depending on the key you're in, where everything else is, is placed, you know, across the scale, across the various octaves in your band, you can make interesting choices or intentional choices about where is that drone pad need to sit? Does it need to be in the middle of the mix or does it need to be up top? Maybe sometimes, you know, if it's like a good Friday or serv service or something, or like the start of a, of a special song, you might want something that's kinda low. Yes. So I can layer these two things together, get that melodic bit. Up on top, adding some texture and then that low bit underneath. And then I've got these two more layers, another high layer. And then I've got this final low layer so I can mix. Very interesting and still quite background supporting, uh, roll sort of tonic pad drones within this interface. So this is just working with one preset and we provide. Lots and lots of different presets. So if you don't want to do everything I just did, make all of those choices, you can just tap through presets, find something that's filling the right amount of space or the right kind of space across the keyboard, song to song, and then as you move through your keyboard patches, the tonic pad can automatically go to that next preset. That's awesome as you go. So this is sort of our like next level approach to, okay, if you need that ambient pad underneath, how can we make that feel like something that's more responsive Yes. To the set list that you're playing, the context of the specific moments you're trying to create. Yes. It's a very different and more, more, uh, articulate approach than just, here's the one five I'm gonna latch. And I'm gonna let it hang and maybe I'll make it louder or quieter. You can actually change the tone, the approach. That's awesome. The approach to it. So this is the biggest new feature we've added to Sunday Keys in terms of an entirely new feature set over the last year. Love it. We added one more thing. I'll, I'll show you, which. Um, you can actually save the tonic pads mix to a snapshot inside of Sunday Keys. You can store the mix of all of your sounds and effects, whether they're on or off, and all those things to a snapshot. So as you move through a song, your patch can, you know, bring up all these different levels so I could save a snapshot like this. And then as I play. My pad layers in the background can rise or fall smoothly over time with a time transition that's perfectly in sync with a metronome if you're playing along to a click where you could do it over just a period of seconds, you know, for super smooth transition. But I can long press on any snapshot and choose customize, and then turn this toggle on to snapshot, adjust tonic pad. So now I can go to this first snapshot and say, my pad starts off kind of down here. Then when I get to my second snapshot, I actually want the pad to, to rise and become more noticeable along with what I'm gonna be doing from the keyboard. Yeah. So I can actually grab an entirely different sound if I want, for the tonic pad and dynamically load that in. One of the things I love to do the most is I'll load this bright pad just to add that air on top of everything for like a big, a big bridge or something. So I've got that sound loaded in, and then I'm gonna save this snapshot, and then I'm gonna go here as well. And I'm gonna set my first snapshot to also store the tonic pad. So then I go here, I'm gonna bring the pad volume down. So that we start in this dark, sort of subtle, subtle space. Yes. So here I am an F and as we bring this second snapshot in. So because that's not playing the entire song, I can sort of get away with filling that bright space Absolutely. For a moment of a song. Right. And before this, the only way to have done that would've been to manually sort of devote that right hand to doing that or to have just been okay with the pad not really being useful the rest of the song and then brought it in, uh, brought the volume up for those moments. Absolutely. So it's a pretty incredible way to sort of treat. Ambient pads. These drone pads is like almost an instrument, right, where you can say, this is where I need it to go with me as I'm playing through this song on absolutely the keyboard, but still, then just be free to do whatever else you need to do with your left and right hands. I love that and I love that because if you do layer a pad or a string with your patch. Sometimes when you get really high up, we as Keyboardists know that sometimes it can be a very piercing pad or string sound that also comes out. But if you just wanna trickle a little bit on the actual piano patch itself mm-hmm. This is a great alternative, just a droning tonic Pad and I love the different variations. I was going through it recently here at Worship Innovators Conference mm-hmm. Where we're filming right now, and I'm like, man, this is you have so many different options and even if you wanted to have a resemblance of a guitarist who's swelling. Yeah. You have that in there too. Yeah, we do. We've got a guitar preset and then there's lots of unique individual guitar sounds so you can kind of dial in. Different bits of atmosphere. This is like a guitar tremolo, and then we also have some guitar harmonics. Crazy. So there, there's lots of control and, and again, if you're watching this account, you probably care about this kind of detail, right? And we're, we're of the same spirit. So I think, I think you're in the right spot. Absolutely. If you're watching on YouTube, by the way, if you are actively using Sunday Keys app. Or if you have used like Sunday sounds template on, on, able to remain stage in the past, let us know in the comments and uh, if you'd want to. Let us know what questions you have, we'll also answer that. Mm-hmm. Um, collectively, if we, if we can, uh, yeah, we can hop into the comments. Absolutely. So let us know what you're thinking and if you do, uh, use Sunday sounds and , if it's great for you, um, people, do you use this in tandem with. There are other keyboards. So you have your keyboard sound that you love. Yeah. Your favorite piano. They use this I here at the conference. Some people, some person was saying, yeah, I use whatever keyboard, and then I have this as an alternate out. Mm-hmm. To do ambient stuff or whatever and use the AI patch builder. Yeah, I know. I know. We always kind of joke about, you don't need the red keyboard, or it's kinda like software versus hardware. Right, right. But folks that love their approach to hardware, I think I see more and more hybrid rigs where Yes. They're maximizing the potential of their hardware because they love the piano sound or they're comfortable with the workflows, or they need that like sort of all reliable, steady thing on stage. Totally. And then they're using software of any kind just to supplement and enhance what that primary hardware is doing. I think it's, it's a becoming a really common approach, especially with like, it used to be people would hit like issues with channel counts. They'd be running, I can't send four, six lines. I need to figure out how to send stereo is even a luxury for some churches. Absolutely. But with the advent of, you know, digital mixtures are so prevalent now that people are facing those count limits a lot less often. And so you can get a little bit more creative with your approach. 100%. I love that man. Um, lemme clear my throat. Yeah, of course. It's been a lot of talking, I'm sure man. A lot of teaching, a lot of stuff, a lot of signing autographs. I have signed one autograph Okay. In my Sunday. Sounds career and it felt very weird. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. Let's, you're back on track. Do you wanna go to pianos? Yeah, let's go to pianos, man. Okay. Alright. So the other big thing that we've been working on with Sunday Keys is, uh. We've always put new sounds in the library every month, so everybody with a Sunday Keys license, we put new, you know, pads, synth sounds, new tonic pad presets. But over this last year, we really put a dedicated and intentional effort and invested a lot of time and money in bringing new and improved piano sounds to Sunday keys. Yeah, because we, we know that. Almost a a a lot of the time churches are leading with those, those sort of core vital instruments. Pianos are sitting at the front of their mix from the keys position. Yeah. And we wanted to give people just something that's at a level of expressiveness and detail that we've never been able to deliver before. So this is awesome. Let me just create a pi a patch here and I'll just name it pianos. 'cause I, I can just gonna. Poke through and kind of show you. And I thought, what, what we could do that might be interesting. 'cause I don't want this to just be applicable to somebody who's interested in or is using Sunday Keys. As we talk about these different piano types, we can just, um, acknowledge that, you know, in worship music more now than ever before. It's been, become, become very, lemme take that again. Yeah. Uh, as I go through this, this list of these different kinds of pianos, I think the takeaway, regardless of whether you're using software or hardware or whatever else, is that. So much of modern worship music is now stepping into different kinds of piano sounds. Whereas, you know, 10 or 15 years ago, it might have just been the piano sound that was prevalent across like hardware, keyboards. It sounded like a grand piano most of the time. Um, but, but people, you know, on Nords or in software or Roland whatever, they're, they're exploring different kinds of options, keys, scape, pushing everybody forward and like, what if piano sounded. This incredibly lush, expansive, absolutely. You know, sound. And so let's just go through this list a little bit and we can talk about kind of the different defining characteristics. One of the things I think holds a lot of keyboard, keyboard players back, especially like volunteers in a church context, is they can hear that something is different, but they don't know what to call it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So learning the name of these, the names of these things, the terminology that you can use. Or if you're like a, maybe in a leadership position at your church or, or you're the dedicated keys player who's really investing, but the other volunteers maybe aren't as bought in as you. Right. Um, you can help them by just. Helping them learn this, the teaching them this terminology. Sure. Kinda giving them that context. So percent, we've added, gosh, five new pianos this year. Two, two new grands. So a Steinway model D and this giant German grand piano. A new upright piano. We did a, an un corda felt piano. Okay. Okay. So single strings across all 88 and then felted. So it's got that soft, delicate thing. Yes. And then we also got our hands on this very obscure British upright mini piano called Eve Staff Eve. Staff Eve staff felt piano. Anyways, we are, we're doing all sorts of nerdy stuff. I love it. I love it. I love it. Let me just, lemme just show you, I'll give you the picture. And by the way, these are sample, so people actually sample real pianos and then they load 'em up here, uh, to use. On the Sunday Keys app. That's right. I mean one note at a time. These pianos all feature eight different velocity levels across the entire keyboard. Resonance samples, uh, release triggers. There's like a lot of authenticity. Even pedal up, pedal down samples. So you hear that little bit of thump and and creek. So this is the church grand. This is one of our old pianos and I'm playing this one 'cause I just want you to hear this is kinda the level of detail we've been able to provide up until this last year, which is cool. But it's not super dynamic. It kind of does a, a distinct character. We've had a lot of character pianos and we wanted to give people pianos that could follow wherever they needed to go. Absolutely. In a more dynamic way. So this is our new concert. Grand. This is a Steinway model D. So this is a very warm piano. Yes. Like Steinways are nice and warm. Very standard. Full, full bodied. And this is something that's that just meat and potatoes. If I need a grand piano, absolutely this can get me in that space. We have a couple different voicings. We're like processing it more. So this is the anthem. Ooh, I bet that cuts through. Brighter cut. Yeah. Pretty, pretty compressed, you know? Yeah. A lot of sustain. So that's our first new grand. This is a Steinway model DI love it. I love it. Then we have this, this more rare German grand that we put in and, and we call that the stage grand. Okay. Because it's a lot brighter, um, and fills a lot of space. Lemme get up to it here. So this is the stage grand piano. It's another, I think it was a nine foot grand, very big. So as a default, it's punchier. It can warm up a little bit as you. Lay off on the keys. But it's more poppy. Yes. Yeah. And it does. It's very fast, you know? Absolutely does staccato or comping stuff quite well. So people are using this a lot for servant openers. They're using it for those big, like. Those right hand. Yes. You know, rifts where you really need it to pop. If you're using a lot of pads and like ambient layers, sometimes it can be helpful to have a little bit of a stronger contrast. That concert grand's really warm. Yeah. And it has a lot of like swirly character to it, almost like a pad as it decays. Totally. The stage grand is a little bit more pure, a little bit more focused. Absolutely. But both eight velocity levels, a lot of dynamic range, so we're really proud of how those turned out. And then we put out. We put out a sister instrument to the stage grand, which we call the stage upright. I really like that, but I'm a big fan of uprights. I am a sucker. Yeah. For uprights, man. I've been using this one at my church nonstop. Brings me back to my living, my childhood living room, you know? Yeah. Uh, my mom taught me piano lessons on a on a half upright. Love it. And I have such a soft spot for him. Jazz. Jazz, he's a jazz fan. Oh man. Don't say that. Edit that out. Or don't. We're all human, baby. We're all human, man. Um, but yeah, this, this still has eight velocity levels, but just the character, the body of the piano itself is tighter, closer, more woody because it's resonating right there. You know, near the hammers for sure. So this is a distinction. You know, if you have a hardware keyboard or if you're using a plugin like scape or whatever, there's a huge difference between a grand and an upright piano just at face value. And then there's so much nuance across different kinds of uprights, different brands, different models, and those sorts of things. If you're just using a grand piano for your worship, now, even just trying. An upright piano on whatever solution you currently have for your piano sounds can get you in a different space. So that sort of ballady space, you know, Maverick City stuff like intimate elevation stuff. Some of the be like these, these sounds you're, you're hearing these pianos on popular worship songs. Totally. So even just that word upright versus just thinking I need a piano Right. Can be a difference maker for folks. Let me show you one more. This is, I wanna show you that un corda that I told you about. Yeah, man. So, UN Corda has one string for all 88 instead of tripling or doubling across the keyboard for certain notes. Mm-hmm. And then we felted the piano. So we put a layer of felt across all the strings so when the hammer strikes the string, it's a little bit more muted. It's delicate, has sort of a wispy, airy quality. And this is, this is probably the piano that I'm most proud of. We put out this last year. Can you hear that pedal? Yes. This to me is like I, in front of the thing, I'm in front of the real thing. This is so good. Whisper, quiet, but like articulate. So what I've been doing a lot of Carson. Dude, that's beautiful. I'm, I'm really proud of it. I hope y'all are listening with headphones right now. That would, the detail of that is incredible. So what I've been, what I've been doing a good bit at my church is mixing that together. With that upright that I just played for you, because then you get the wispy start and then some, some of that woody body of the upright and that together, they sort of phase off of each other. It's a little bit more of an abstract thing. It's like the feeling if you need a bit more so you can still dig in again. And then I'll just bring that tonic pad back in. And F, if you've got volunteers who aren't ready for much classically trained piano players or whatever, and their timing's good, they can follow instruction, but they're like scared of all the stuff. Even if you just give them name. God is with us. So even someone who's just really nervous to push into something new, can be given a platform, a simple way to just fill space, establish an atmosphere. And then just use that natural timing. Like classically trained folks are the beautiful, are the best piano players, right? Yes. Like jazz folks, classical folks. You guys are so talented. Absolutely. And then in worship, sometimes we come, we're like, ah, don't do any of that. Don't disarm, don't, don't use the talent stuff, you know, but we can give them the opportunity to still bring those skills to the table and then just let the sounds like. Support and enhance that natural piano playing ability. and I think that's, that's a good way to go rather than saying, okay, here's five more sounds that make you play the piano very differently. You can't play it like you're comfortable. Right. You can do something like a, just a slightly different piano tone with an ambient pad that won't fight what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. And then they feel like they have a little bit more of a platform that acknowledges I'm good at. Arpeggios, yes. In the right hand. I can play rhythmic chord stuff all day long because I, I, I play jazz music. That's my training. I'm good at that. Right. And they can do it. And then the technology, the software or whatever, just kind of supports instead of forces them into a different direction where absolutely, you might, you might end up getting them towards that over time, but this can be sort of an entry that's a little bit softer and smoother into that kind of approach, that sort of role. Dude, that is beautiful. That last patch was so good with the pad. , I love the new samples. I love the new uprights. I love the grands. And I will say, 'cause I haven't really gone through. Those recently or anything? Mm-hmm. They are tremendously better than they were in 20 17, 18 19. Thanks man. Yeah, good. Incredible man. Yeah, we, we knew it was an area where we could improve, so we just drew a line in the sand and said, you know what? We're gonna figure out a way to bring something. Of better quality to the library so that people that do want to just go all in and just use Sunday Keys, don't feel like it's the pianos that are holding them back from it. So I'm glad. I love that. Thanks for saying that, man. That's cool. That is awesome. I love that you recognize that too over the years and. Constantly working to adapt and bring quality work to the actual pianos. 'cause that's what it's about, right? Yeah. At the base of it, it still is about the piano sound has to be, yeah. Yeah, that's right. But the technology and the integrations and the automations is very cool. Yeah. The snapshots and everything that you can do, but at the heart of it, it is about that piano sound, so, mm-hmm. Great job to that David. Thanks man. Thank you David. David Graph with Sunday Sounds y'all. Okay, I hope y'all are enjoying the episode so far. Just a few more things to cover. Mm-hmm., let's talk about one big thing. There might be a few more little things, but let's talk about Loop Connect. Yeah. What is Loop Connect? I'm so excited about this. I love this. I love this feature. Tell us about this man. Yeah, so Loop Connect is our partnership with. The Prime app from our partner brand Loop community. So Prime is an awesome way to run all of your backing tracks, your clicks and your queues live in an app that runs on iPad, Mac, and iPhone. We love the app, it's awesome, and we wanted to provide it. It's been able to send MIDI queues out to other right softwares for a long time. Yes. And you know, if you're using Ableton Live or whatever you're familiar with, it's like I'm drawing in the automation. So at this moment in the timeline. My other software, my lighting software, my presentation software, or my keyboard synthesizer, or my hardware, piano gets some context and it does something. It changes patches or whatever. It's doable. It's been doable for a long time, but it just stinks to manually draw automation for a set list, four or five songs long every single weekend. Right. You know, touring bands do that, but they're playing the same songs every night for the most part. Absolutely. Worship teams, we got. Sunday comes every Sunday and it's four songs in a different order. True. Maybe some that we've never done before and we never get to Encore. So yeah. No Encore. Maybe the altar call and the alt call, you know, depends on the church. Yeah. I'm, there's actually a pat, there's a pat on there called to altar call. Isn't there? There is, yeah. It's like whenever you use it, does it bring more people to the altar? Whenever you start to use that, pat? I, I don't know if it's correlation or causation, but it feels good in the room. Okay. Keep going man. Don't, don't mind me. No, that's, that was good. Loop Connect was our desire to just remove the need to rely on MIDI Automation and instead allow just like first party integration between the apps so that they're directly able to communicate with each other. Mm. So for Sunday Keys and the Prime App, what that means is you can just open a set list in Prime with, here are my tracks. Open a set list in Sunday. Keys. Here are my patches. You connect them together. There's a little prime, logo up here that just opens up. Loop Connect. You enter in the set list ID from Prime, and then on one side of the screen you see all of the tracks from Prime, including all of the markers. Mm-hmm. So intro verse two. Bridge outro. On the other side of the screen, you see all of your Sunday keys, patches, and all of the snapshots. Mm. So you just select when this song starts in prime. I want this to happen in Sunday Keys. So you could say one-to-one song to patch. And then you could say, you know, bridge to my bridge snapshot. Yeah. And then as the tracks play back in Prime Sunday, keys receives messages automatically in advance of when you need that queue to happen, so that it's ready right on time as you get up into those sections. That's great. So no more drawing midi. No more hoping that that works over your network. This works over any wifi network, even terrible ones, because all of this is like queued up a little bit in advance, right? Yeah. So if a snapshot transition takes one bar, which is a pretty common transition time in Sunday Keys, you can choose how long those transitions are, but we'll just use one bar. Of time for this example, we'll send that message a bar in advance to Sunday Keys so that transition's ready to go right when you hit that point. That's good. But before we do that, we measure how long it took for the message to get from Prime to Sunday Keys. Let's say that it took, you know, 200 milliseconds 'cause there's terrible wifi, a lot of latency. So we cancel out that latency and trigger the snapshot so that it actually still hits at that. Perfect downbeat based on when, when you want it in prime. So there's latency correction built into the connection even over the worst of, of wifi networks. So unless the, the latency is more than a bar long figure, you're wild, then, then we're gonna be able to cancel that latency out for you, which is. It's super important. I mean, it sounds, sounds nerdy, but it's super important that you can count on this kind of automation working really well and we wanted to be able to do it wirelessly but do it perfectly and have that yes, that be seamless. So incredible. That's the Loop Connect integration to Sunday Keys. And then we also have Prime able to, uh, connect to the Worship Tools charts app, so that Prime can not just tell you which songs you're doing, but it will show the chart in the right key or in the number system if you'd like. Mm-hmm. Then it'll highlight the sections as you go. It will automatically turn your pages for you. You can leave annotations in the charts app and then have those automatically pulled up. Amazing. Um, and then most recently we have Loop Connect to the worship tools presenter app. Okay. So that will not just trigger your slides for you automatically in the same way as I just described, with built-in latency cancellation. But it will actually generate the slides for you, you don't even need to. That's huge. Create your slides. That's huge. You just build your set list in Prime. We automatically pull the lyrics and the chords in the key from Prime and then send them to presenter. We build the slides based on you tell us, do you want one line per slide? Two lines up to four lines. And then you tell us how far in advance you want each slide to be shown. 'cause you want like a little, A little pickup. Yeah, yeah. You know, and then all that timing plays out perfectly. So for your primary display, presenter's gonna show the lyrics with locked in timing to Prime. If you loop a section in Prime, you don't have to tell anybody. Presenter automatically knows. It will show that. Section again, as many times as you want. Incredible. And then if you use the stage display output for the confidence monitor, we'll show the current slide. You can have it show the next slide, and you can also show the chords or numbers. All with perfect timing, in sync with Prime Running your tracks. Charts app from Worship Tools, the presenter app from Worship Tools and Sunday Keys. So if you happen to use those tools or are looking for a, an integrated solution that can connect everything that your band needs, we're really trying to provide that through Sunday Sounds through Loop community and through worship tools. So that's called Loop Connect. You can, we'll put a link in the description if people wanna kind of read up on that a little bit more. Absolutely. So a few things about this. This is really cool. Yeah. Um. For one. For one thing. I can already, I can already see the comments below about this. Like, oh, I don't want to eliminate another volunteer who's been working slides forever. Mm-hmm. They can still work the slides and actually you could go out of it and Yeah. Do manual stuff or you can edit it or whatever you wanna do at any point. Right. And if something goes wrong, you still have buttons that you can. Deviate and get outta that right PE people can take over in presenter at any time just momentarily or permanently. And the same's true of Sunday keys. Also, if you need to pull a fader or change patches, you can take over and then you still need somebody to run your presentation software for the offering, the announcements, the sermon, let's say that you end up doing a song that you didn't plan for. Somebody has to pull that in. Mm-hmm. Now, if you load it into Prime, we can detect it and generate the slides for you in real time. That's cool. But let's say that you're not gonna run tracks for a song and you're just gonna. You know, reprise a hymn or something. You still need that person there Absolutely. To be responsive and important member of the team. But the timing of that's super important. I, I harken it too, like once in a while you don't use a click or a metronome, but you don't want somebody with a cowbell providing your metron. It's super important when the worship's going Yes. That that's actually click metronome locked in. Absolutely. I think it's worth doing that automation for slides. Absolutely. Then there's those moments where you're not gonna be locked in. For sure. Then you need the cowbell guy. Absolutely 100%. So with Loop Connect mm-hmm. You can connect all those features, which is amazing. And I saw you using it here at the Worship Innovators Conference where Yeah, when it goes, it highlights that actual section. Correct. When you're reading the chart. So you don't have to, when you're reading a two column chart, sometimes it's hard to know where you are and if you haven't practiced a song a lot, but if you're, you know, immediately going on, this is your first time doing it, you can read it on the charts app. Really, really cool. So many iPads. Also, I love David that since it is on the confidence monitors. Yeah. So many worship leaders have been like, I wanted to get rid of stands and just less clunky on stage and I want them to not look down at their instrument and their stands the whole time. I want them to look up. Right. This is a great way to do it. 'cause so many people, yeah, put it up on the back wall or TV back there or whatever. And you know, you're looking out over the congregation, but you'll also be able to jog that memory. Absolutely. That those charts in your mind. Dude, it has been a game changer. So clutched during this conference, we're here at Worship Innovators. Yes. We did a worship night last night, 10 songs. We had some sound check issues, so we rehearsed about 2.5 of them. Yeah. Yeah. Before we actually like. Started the worship night, so all of us, we, we'd learn the songs in advance, but it was really helpful. We had the MD in our ears, but we also had the visual to say, all right, this, if I need this, it's here. Right? It's a big confidence booster for the band with the charts app, and then the front frontline, the singers, the worship leaders, had those confidence monitors to just make sure everybody could see the game plan and not just have to. Recall, it's a huge deal. I love that. And for people that can't quite transpose on the, on the fly or whatever, doesn't read, they don't read the national number system. Mm-hmm. The charts are in that actual key, the actual letter name if you need them to be. Yeah. And you don't have to go reprint, you know, uh, right. Charts for your, your pianist versus the guitarists and mm-hmm. And people that are capo or whatever. Um, obviously. Different people are reading different things. If you're Cap O and, and that might be problematic. What do you think? It's, it's not actually, each member of the band can still use Loop Connect and then they can designate, I'm playing to a Cap O or I'm not, or I want the number system, or I, or I want letter keys. So David, come on now, bro. Person. And then the annotations are are per person too. So like for me, from the keyboard, there were a couple things where I knew I had a keys riff. Yeah. And I'm like, gosh, I'm so tired from this full day of the conference, I really wanna make sure I remember I am starting the song. Yes. I need to be in that head space. So I would just write. Start. Big red letters at the top of my chart and only I see that, bro. So that chart pulls up. It's in the key. I'm looking at numbers 'cause that's what I prefer. Yeah. And then I see start and that's just so, I mean, even those little things can just make such a huge difference to like help you lead with confidence, get you out of your head and like into the spirit a little bit like. Focusing on what you're doing from an artistry standpoint instead of like, I love that. Oh shoot. I hope I don't mess up. Right. Right. It's not the energy you want to have when you're trying to lead folks in worship. No, I love that. And you know, a lot of churches have a connection center out in the lobby. Mm-hmm. Like, come connect with us or, you know, connection table or booth or whatever like that. My question is with Luke Connect, can you like. Start the coffee brewing as well. It's like a certain songs that, like home Home automation is coming next year. You can adjust your thermostat, you know, dim, dim the light. No. Yeah, the haze starts at a certain point and you just, everything to the T. Yeah. There's a but button. You press and it ask this, the pastor to wrap it up. Those sort of things. Okay. I love it, man. That's cool. Those features are super, super cool. If you're trying that out, if you've already tried that out, let us know in the comments how it's going for you. Well, thank you for sharing. What's new with Sunday Sounds, the ambient pads. Seriously, guys, y'all need to check this out. It's more than just a few, like there's a ton over 140,000 different patches from the AI patch builder alone. Yep. The world of sound design is at your fingertips. So if you guys are not using this, you need to also, a few more things with, loop Connect and everything. If you're multi-site campus, there's this little code like on Prime, you go and press Loop Connect and you get a little six digit code and then you put it into your Sunday sounds set list and you can bring it up. It's great across multi-campus. And then if you have a set list between one Sunday, Sunday keys set list, you can bring it to the other. Mm-hmm. Great For youth groups. So many youth pastors and friends will reach out. Throughout the year and be like, Hey, what do you suggest for like beginners worship stuff in my youth room or just on stage? You could be at the regular service too, but mm-hmm. A lot of times it's like youth group thing, like, oh, we're more on a budget than the actual main service, right? You should use this for all services, but even if not youth group, this is amazing too. Mid controller, get the iPad and it's very teachable for very beginner. People, especially youth from ages 12 to 18, they know how to run this thing better than we do right here. I mean, your 14-year-old with this iPad, with Sunday Keys is gonna absolutely kill it. Yeah. You just teach 'em how to do it six, seven times. On the scv and it'll be ready to go on the ski by the time this video comes out. That won't even be cool anymore. Yeah, we're gonna be so old. It's me six, seven, that what's already not cool. It's gonna kind of look vintage like your shirt, because your shirt reminds me of the old windows thing where it's like, uh, where you're, you're looking and you're into this universe and it changes all those pattern. You know what I'm talking? Yeah. Like the fractals. Sort of The fractals. Yeah. Dude, I get you. Yeah, dude. I like the shirt though. I window screen saver. I'll tell you the window Screen saver. Although we're all Apple here with the Yeah, that's true. I should have worn something different. Something different. Yeah. Steve Jobs would've just plain black, plain black turtleneck. But that's too predictable. Yeah, that's true. I got a little bit more hair than he had, but not much. There you go. There you go. Well, guess if we miss anything or, or actually. From five years from now, this video is gonna seem so outdated that we even have these features now, five, 10 years, 15 years from now, there's gonna be something else out there, but we're already in, you're already integrating ai, you're already integrating real piano sounds. I mean, I don't know what more, more you can do besides just build a whole rocket ship out of this thing. But any la Any last words for Sunday sound? Sunday keys? Yeah. This, when we talk next year, we're gonna be talking about improvements to the audio engine in general. Okay. Brand new audio effects. Audio effects that help you shape the sounds we're giving you into new and interesting things that are still super volunteer friendly. Incredible. So think about how important, you know, key, uh, guitarists and keyboards discovering like reverbs delays, shimmer, how important those things were. We're looking to level up the options and expand horizons inside of Sunday Keys when it comes to how you process the sounds that you play. So love that. It'll be fun. I look forward to catching you up in a year. I can't wait, man. Well, David gra with Sunday sounds, thank you so much for taking the time. Yeah, man. I know you're a busy man. I mean, he's been leading, leading breakout sessions and main sessions and signing autographs and kissing babies. Or maybe not the last two, but, um, auto autographing babies. Autographing babies without, without permission from, no, I'm just kidding. No, you did not do that. Uh, if we did, we, I I hope it was on camera and we have proof of this. Yeah. It didn't happen. No. But thank you to, um, Luke, community Worship Tools. Thank you to this church for letting us have this whole corner. Um, for sure. Uh, this beautiful tree. We, we got the church plant. The church plant. The church plant in the background. Thank you guys for being a part of the Worship Keys community. Just, we're here to feature other, keys players, also just legends like David Foss Craft. So many people look up to you and we thank you. Just so appreciative of you and the worship keys community for actually helping us design sound. So many people that are listening or been past guests, they've made their own patches and done things, but they don't have ways for people to actually helped them in a practical sense. So yours is, it's fast, it's simple, it's practical, and thank you for that, man. Thanks man. Like I thank God for you kind. Thank you. And your team. I love your team. Me too. Shout out to all them. You've seen them. If you've followed Sunday sounds, you've seen Joy and Julia and who, yeah. You know, all these other people doing the tutorials, there's. So many great tutorials that they do. But thank you for being on the podcast, for having me. I can, I wish we could do this more often, David. I know. You know, maybe we can figure it out. Okay. We'll get together. Okay. Can't wait man. Thanks for having me, bro. Absolutely. See you guys next week.