Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk

Bash in Berlin: Predictions and Showdowns

Ben and Bash Episode 11

What if CM Punk's extensive experience in strap matches could set up a Hell in a Cell showdown at Bad Blood? This episode of Tag Team Talk promises to equip you with predictions for the highly anticipated Bash in Berlin event. We kick things off by dissecting the Drew McIntyre vs. CM Punk strap match, offering insights into how past experiences and unique match rules might influence the outcome. Our deep dive continues with a breakdown of the tag team clash between the Terror Twins and the New Judgment Day. Next, we shift gears to explore the complex landscape of international wrestling. From Randy Orton's revered global status to Gunther's overwhelming hometown advantage.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Ben and Bash podcast Tag Team Talk.

Speaker 2:

I'm Ben.

Speaker 1:

I'm Bash. It's time to lace up your boots and hit the mat with the Ben and Bash podcast Tag Team Talk.

Speaker 2:

All right, here you are for another one. We are going to do our predictions for Bash and Berlin today. Let's get to it in.

Speaker 1:

Berlin today. Let's get to it, For the first match on the card is Drew McIntyre versus CM Punk in a strap match. And the thing about strap matches that I don't like. I thought it was just this one, but apparently it's all the strap matches. You have to touch each corner of the ring. I don't like that.

Speaker 2:

That's the only rules in a strap match. There's no other rules.

Speaker 1:

I thought it was just one, two, three in a normal match. But he has a strap.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the only rules are you gotta touch all four corners of the ring, all of the ring posts at the same time, which means you have to go in order. So let's say, CM Punk touches one, two, three and Drew McIntyre stops him from touching the fourth, it starts over.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

And he has to go one, two, three, four again.

Speaker 1:

It's like a game show type of thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So if you go like one, two, three and before CM Punk touches the fourth, when Drew McIntyre pulls him, he has to start that one. Now he has to touch all four again. You got to touch all four of them in order, without any interruption. That's how you win. So the main premise, basically, is to beat your opponent down so bad where they can't stop you. All you got to do is just walk, just walk normally.

Speaker 1:

And what I think is going to happen for this match. Well, I think Sam Punk is going to win, first of all because if, unless they're going to do like a Saffron's Cody Rose, which I know they're not going to do CM Punk has to win this match in order to get that match at what's it called Bad Blood blood. So I think CM Punk's going to win. But I'm just not predicting that CM Punk's going to win. I'm predicting how he's going to win, Because I think he's going to pull the strap into a GTS and then touch off four corners. So it's very specific on how he's going to win.

Speaker 2:

So you got CM Punk winning yes.

Speaker 1:

In that specific way I think I'm going to. I deserve extra points if I get that right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm going. This is a hard one, Because I mean you got two good wrestlers. They both hate each other, seems like. I mean now I will say now, like Drew McIntyre said on the kickoff show yesterday, CM Punk has hit him, but he hasn't hit CM Punk yet with the strap. When he hits CM Punk with that strap, maybe a different ball game. Then, Like Drew McIntyre said, CM Punk's hit him and he's came back. You know so. And now it's not going to be any.

Speaker 2:

Every time CM Punk has attacked Drew McIntyre, it's been from behind. There's none of that in this match With the strap. He's been hitting him with the straps, or belts, from behind for the last few weeks. This match, right here, you're right in front of him. There's no attacking from behind. You got to go one-on-one with me now Mm-hmm. So I'm curious to see how that goes with the strap match, because Drew is a stronger opponent. I mean, he is stronger than CM Punk. There's nobody who's going to doubt that the thing CM Punk has over Drew is he's been in strap matches. I don't think he's lost a strap match before and Drew McIntyre has lost his own. He only wrestled one strap match before and he lost it.

Speaker 1:

Well, who's it against?

Speaker 2:

I can't remember who it was off the top of my head.

Speaker 1:

How many CM Punk wrestled in a strap match?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think like three or four. I want to say he wrestled in a dog car. That was a dog car match in AEW. He's wrestled in strap matches before or matches where he's been attached to another person. Is a dog, neck to neck yeah it's like a strap match, but only around your neck instead. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wouldn't that hurt. Yeah, that's the point. That's the point of it. But so, yeah, CM Punk has been in these kind of matches before and he's done pretty well in them, and Drew McIntyre has lost his only strap match he's been in. I should look into it to see what it was by camera right now. It's been a while ago. But just based off experience of the match, I'm going to pick CM Punk to win this match. I don't know what happens after this. I mean, well, it will be 1-1. Drew McIntyre won the first match.

Speaker 1:

Well, Drew McIntyre won the first match, right yeah, at SummerSlam yeah.

Speaker 2:

SummerSlam. Then CM Punk won the second match. I mean, technically, the only way left to go would be a Hell in a Cell match at Bad Blood. I mean, that's really the only way to finish this rivalry off.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going finish this rivalry off. So I'm gonna pick cm punk, just because I want to see a third match as a hell and sell at bad blood. That's, that's my prediction on that one. Okay, so for the next match, we have the terror twins, damian priest and rhea ripley versus versus dominic and live of the new judgment day. Now for this one, I was gonna say Damian Priest and Rhea Ripley, just to like build some momentum up. But I really don't know, for this one I'm probably gonna think Rhea Ripley and Damian Priest, since they both lost at SummerSlam to Gunther and Liv Morgan, to Gunther and Liv Morgan. So to build some momentum going into Bad Blood, I guess, since I think it's going to be Damian Priest and Finn Balor and Rhea Ripley versus Liv Morgan, but I'm not exactly sure that would make the most sense. So I think it's going to be the Terror Twins to build some momentum going into Bad Blood.

Speaker 2:

I think you're forgetting a huge, huge part of this match what the Judgment Day. I mean, you got Finn Balor, you got JD, you got Carlito. You think those guys are just going to let Dom and Liv have a one-on-one match.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

I mean a two-on-two match. Yep, no, they're not Sure yep, absolutely not.

Speaker 1:

Seal of approval. They've never done that Seal of approval.

Speaker 2:

They've interfered in every match, whether when they and Priest didn't want to interfere, they interfer, feared I mean. So they've always helped out their teammates and I don't see it changing today. But, like you said, as much as I think Judgment Day may win just because of that and they're not a new faction but they're a new faction with this lineup, with Liv Morgan and Finn Balor being the leaders and all that. But the Terror Twins are who they are. I mean, they were both world champions, not even two months ago. You know well Damian Priest was. We were trying to get her belt back from being injured by Liv Morgan.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I'm going to pick the Terror Twins and then, like you said, liv Morgan versus Rhea Ripley at Bad Blood. Damian Priest I guess he's Morgan versus Rhea Ripley at Bad Blood. Damian Priest I guess he's going to wrestle Finn Balor at Bad Blood, since Finn Balor was definitely the one who turned on and Damian Priest hasn't gotten over it yet. So yeah, I'm going with Terror Twins on this one as well, just for the simple fact that just two on two, dominic and Liv can't beat Damian and Rhea in the actual match, even with the Judgment Day interference, which is what I'm kind of worried about. But yeah, I'm going to still pick the Cherry 20 and Damian Priest and Rhea Ripley.

Speaker 1:

Okay, for the next match on the card, it's going to be the Unholy Union versus Bianca Belair and Jade Cargill, and for this one it's. For most people, it's easy to see that Bianca Belair and Jade Cargill are going to win, but I personally disagree, because I think that Jade Cargill is going to turn on Bianca at this pay-per-view. Um, but what I'm? I'm uh, what I'm thinking about, if she's gonna turn before they lose, or like she's gonna turn before they lose, like causing them to lose, or she's gonna turn after the match, when they already lost. I I'm not sure when it's gonna happen, but I think j's going to turn. So, either way before or after the match ends, I think the Unholy Union is going to take the W.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can't remember when they lost to Bells originally. Did one of them get pinned or was it somebody else?

Speaker 1:

No, it was Shayna Baszler and Zoe Stark.

Speaker 2:

So neither one of them took a pin yet in the match.

Speaker 1:

Against the whole Unholy Union. I guess, or they might have never taken a pin as a tag team.

Speaker 2:

Because Unholy Union won in Clash of the Castle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's right. And that was a triple threat tag team match right Against Zoe Stark and Shayna Baszler and they pinned them.

Speaker 2:

So Bianca and Jay neither one of them have taken a pin yet, since they've been tag team and they did all the work in that matchup.

Speaker 1:

The only way you can just push them out the way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just I don't see Bianca and Jay staying together for too long. I mean everybody wants to see them wrestle each other. I mean that's a money feud right there. I mean that right, there is money. You don't even got to do much with that match. You got two of the biggest, strongest, fastest, all the ESCs that Bianca has. Like I said before, jade has the same exact thing, if not stronger than Bianca. It just depends on how you want to look at it. Jade is the obvious choice to turn, but what if Bianca turns? I mean, she hasn't had a heel run yet, except for NXT.

Speaker 2:

NXT. Exactly, I'm talking about the main roster.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

So she hadn't had a heel when she was on NXT she was a great heel. I mean she was doing basically the same thing she was doing now, just being more animated. It wasn't too much different than EST what she was doing basically the same thing she was doing now, just being more animated. It wasn't too much different than EST what she was doing right now. I mean I'm going to say Bianca's going to turn because I want to see the Street Profits turn too. I want to see all three of them get together. That's what I want to see. I want to see the Street Profits. The problem with that is you've got B want to see the Street Profits. I mean, the problem with that is you got B-Fab with the Street Profits right now. So I guess Bianca may not be with them, because then you'll have Well, you can have them as a tag team.

Speaker 2:

technically you can have Bianca kind of mentor her and get her where they can be, or technically no, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Well, I was was gonna say something, but we were in B5's whole career oh, bianca Tackler yeah, no if they do, she can join them.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's what I'd like to see. I'd like to see her and Montez actually work together in the ring. I mean, we know they're both, they're two of the two of the best athletes in WWE. So I would like, especially with them being married and all. So I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm probably going to be wrong about this, but this is my opinion. This is what I want to see. I want to see Bianca turn on Jade, you know, finally get that heel and that main roster heel run and that gives Jade the opportunity to be a face, baby face and kind of keep the crowd.

Speaker 1:

So you think the Unholy Heroes are going to win this match? Yes, okay.

Speaker 2:

Unholy Heroes are going to win this match. I think Bianca's going to get frustrated with Jade and she's going to attack Jade. It sets up a match, maybe at Bad Blood, maybe at Crown Jewel, maybe afterwards. I don't know how they're going to stretch it out, but I think it's about time to break up Jade and Bianca and get them ready, unless they want to wait until.

Speaker 1:

WrestleMania.

Speaker 2:

That's still another.

Speaker 1:

That's next year, that's next April.

Speaker 2:

So, unless they want to wait until WrestleMania next year and wait until the end of the year to break them up, if they don't turn today, they're not going to turn until before WrestleMania. If nobody turns until the other day, it's going to stretch out to WrestleMania, just the way it happens, and they're going to turn until before WrestleMania or around World War I. If nobody turns to each other today, it's going to stretch out to WrestleMania, just the way it happens, and they're going to win.

Speaker 2:

I think the whole union is going to win and they're going to turn on each other.

Speaker 1:

Yep. For the next match on the card we have Gunther versus Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Championship. Now, like I would really really want to say Randy Orton on here, but it's Gunther's home country, he's-.

Speaker 2:

Not really his home country, but it's where he spent a lot of his time wrestling. He's from Austria, really.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, he is.

Speaker 2:

He's from the same place as Arnold Schwarzenegger in Austria.

Speaker 1:

Wait, Arnold Schwarzenegger is from Austria.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not Australia, austria, yeah, austria.

Speaker 1:

Wait, aren't.

Speaker 2:

Swissians from Austria. Yeah, not Australia. Austria, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's the same place, Gunther's from you. Gotta tell that to R-Truth.

Speaker 2:

Austria and Austria, yeah, I know, yeah, r-truth, yeah, that's why I had to make sure you knew what I was talking about, so you didn't wrestling like that. So gunter went to germany and spent a lot of his time wrestling in germany that's why he calls it the second home, because, you know, and he and he played like a germ and he kind of like a german, a german wrestler type, in um over in england, over there in their, in their company. He kind of played a um, a german type wrestler.

Speaker 1:

But so I think Gunther's going to have like people. The commentary team is saying that Randy Orton is stepping into like hostile territory. Yeah, but I really disagree with that I mean it's Randy Orton. Overseas countries love like Randy Orton, cody Rose, but they also love their hometown person better. I mean, it's Randy Orton. Overseas countries love Randy Orton, cody Rhodes, but they also love their hometown person better.

Speaker 2:

I mean, look at last night, when Louis Kizer came out. When was the last time you saw him get cheered? When was the last time you saw Louis Kizer get cheered for anything?

Speaker 1:

I don't think he's actually ever been a babyface to get cheered.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. He's never been cheered, Not even in NXT. That's what I'm saying. Even in NXT, NXT UK, none of that. He's never got cheered. Once I can remember, and they cheered him when his music hit and he came out. They cheered him.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that Gunther's not going to get a huge pop. He is going to get a huge pop. I'm just saying Randy Orton, he's a veteran and they give that pop to those veterans like that.

Speaker 2:

Of course he's respected. He's Randy Orton. He's had almost a 20-year career. He's tied for third all-time or second all-time. Second all-time because Rick and John Cena are tied Him and Triple H are tied right now, I think 14. So, yeah, he has 14 championships, 20 years of wrestling, almost 20 years of wrestling, over 20 years probably, yeah, I mean, youngest world champion in history. I mean, yeah, you can't deny what Randy Orton has done, but he is in the Günders, basically almost Günders hometown though, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

But he's in basically almost Gunter's hometown, though, and for this I think Randy Orton is going to win titles in a little bit, because I think it's going to be like John Cena and Randy Orton tied for first place of all titles.

Speaker 2:

We're forgetting about that too.

Speaker 1:

We're forgetting about.

Speaker 2:

John Cena.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean John Cena still has another year of wrestling left. He can easily feud with Randy Orton or Gunther or Cody or Kevin Owens or CM Punk or anybody. If he's serious about retiring, he has a whole year of fuse that he can get going with people from his past, new wrestlers, people that's not even in WWE right now. That we're not even thinking about people in NXT. Maybe John Cena could go to NXT and wrestle somebody on his last run. It's his last run. He's never been to NXT before Not wrestled.

Speaker 1:

He's been on NXT but never wrestled. Yeah, but he's never wrestled. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So if he is actually getting ready to hang him up and retire, he can pretty much go anywhere he wants to on his last run. So yeah, I would not doubt him and Randy Orton has a feud, but go ahead if you think you're saying.

Speaker 1:

But for this match it's Gunther's second home he's going to get a loud pop. He's a new champion, he's a great wrestler and I just don't see him dropping the title on his first defense against Randy Orton. No disrespect to Randy Orton, no disrespect to Randy Orton, but I just think Gunther needs to hold it and I think that Triple H just wouldn't drop the title off of Gunther like that, like one, two, three in his first defense. I don't think that's going to happen. So I'm going to say Gunther on this one.

Speaker 2:

I'm also going to go, gunther as well. I mean, you got to think about it. Every title Gunther has had in WWE, he's held it for a long time.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's not even close.

Speaker 2:

He's had them for well over a year. Every single title NXT UK, you know. Then he had the Intercontinental Championship for 666 days. Yes exactly, and I think he's going to hold. He may not hold this championship for 600 days, but he's going to at least hold it. So probably WrestleMania next year, depending on who he wrestles.

Speaker 1:

I think he's going to wrestle with John Cena at WrestleMania.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's going to be. I'm just saying he's going to hold it. I don't see anybody beating Gunther right now just because the way he's been wrestling over the past two years he's been, I mean he's been the Gunther everybody wanted when he first came to WWE. I mean he's lost a little weight, he's got himself in shape. His chops are still deadly. I mean there used to be a finishing move when he was wrestling in. But but yeah, I got Gunther winning that against Randy Orton in a good match. I think Randy Orton is going to give him everything he has, but at the end I think Gunther is going to find a way to pull it out, whether it's Lue or Kaiser helps him out or just Gunther beat some one-on-one. But yeah, but yeah, I got to go for winning that match.

Speaker 1:

I don't think this is going to be the one I want, but We'll see Cody Rose versus Kevin Owens in what I think is going to be the main event for the Undisputed WWE Championship. So really, on this one, it's really easy. Really, on this one, it's really easy. I would love to say Kevin Owens, because Friday Night Smackdown yesterday marked eight years since Kevin Owens has had a title. And look who he lost it to Goldberg.

Speaker 1:

I would love to say Kevin Owens on this one, but I don't. I don't see him. Um, I don't see him dethroning Cody, at least not anytime soon. So I'm gonna say Cody Rose on this one, but I do think Kevin Owens is gonna turn in this match, but he's, I think he's gonna turn after the match and yeah. So I just think Cody Rose is gonna win. But one the other thing I think Kevin think Cody Rose is going to win, but the other thing I think Kevin Owens is going to try to target that knee of Cody Rose, because he was saying that he always bends down on a knee in his entrance and he didn't.

Speaker 2:

He does, he always does that Wait how?

Speaker 1:

do you hurt your knee in a tour?

Speaker 2:

Well, he's in the match. He has matches.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he hurt his knee in a match. Evidently that's what it sounds like Kevin.

Speaker 2:

Well, he's in the match, he has matches. Oh, he hurt his knee in a match. Evidently that's what it sounds like Kevin Owens was talking about. You know those, those non-televised matches, but I'm thinking like Cody Rhodes did.

Speaker 1:

That was that his knee that was hurting.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I'm just saying the way Kevin Owens sounded on Smackdown was that Cody Rhodes hurt his knee in a match non-televised match during the tour of Germany and all the European countries they were in over the past week. Evidently he hurt his knee some kind of way in the match.

Speaker 1:

That's a lot of flying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's how wrestlers wrestle. There's no downtime, they have no off-season.

Speaker 1:

The only thing good about that is you get free tickets to planes. Yeah, pretty much. And if you're the champ, if you're the world champ, they give you front row seats.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, and if there's no, you might get your own private jet if you're a champion. Oh yeah, WWE do have their own plane, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And if there's not front row, they just give you a section to yourself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I mean most of the time. Wwe do have their own, they do fly their own planes. Yeah, so a lot of times those wrestlers just fly on WWE jets anyways.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but alright, sidetracking.

Speaker 2:

But were you done with Cody Rhodes and Kevin Owens?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was just talking about Cody's bum knee, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like I said, I like Kevin Owens. I've been liking him since he was Kevin Steen when Ring of Honor and all that. But I just don't see Cody Rose losing right now. I mean, he beat Roman Reigns after Roman Reigns had to build. For how long did Roman Reigns have to build Over a?

Speaker 1:

thousand days, a thousand and like thirty or like seventy something around he was top five all time.

Speaker 2:

I mean, there was only a whole family above him Bruno Hulk Hogan, Bob Backlund.

Speaker 1:

Wait, no, he beat Hulk Hogan. He beat Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2:

Hulk had another reign that was a little bit longer than that. It was another Hulk reign. I think he beat Hulk Hogan's reign at like WrestleMania yeah but he would have to wrestle until September of this year, like this September coming up to beat Hulk Hogan's other reign. Yeah, hulk Hogan had another long reign that he had, and then Bruno had two reigns, including the longest ever in history, it was like seven years.

Speaker 1:

The Golden Era had a long championship rant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they didn't wrestle as much as they do now. Yeah, they didn't wrestle as much as they do. They didn't wrestle every week like we see on TV.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know they might wrestle. The champion might wrestle once a month. Maybe you know.

Speaker 1:

But all right.

Speaker 2:

It's good for the belt, but yeah, I got Cody winning. I just don't see Cody losing right now. I mean, he beat Roman Reigns. You can't beat Roman Reigns and then lose the belt within a year. I mean, you just can't lose it within a year. You have to keep the belt for at least a solid year.

Speaker 1:

Actually in like four months right, or like five months, that's what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying you can't lose the belt, the belt. I don't think he's going to lose until WrestleMania next year. If he loses at WrestleMania next year, I mean but yeah, I got Cody winning. I mean, kevin Owens, being the veteran he is, he's going to attack the knee Kevin Owens. That's why he was trying to tell Cody Rhodes he didn't want to wrestle him, because Kevin Owens knows what he's going to do in a title match he's going to try to win, no matter what.

Speaker 1:

Even if it's his friend. Exactly, there are friends, but at the end of the day.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Owens didn't want that match. He didn't think he earned the title match. He didn't want it at first. They gave it to him Cool. Now Kevin Owens knows Cody Rose is hurt. Now Kevin Owens is going to turn into Kevin Owens. And he's going to attack the knee in that match.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And in that match he's going to attack the knee. Is Cody Rhodes going to be able to not get hurt and keep his belt? That's what I want to see. That's what I'm ready to see. I mean, I got Cody Rhodes winning, but it's not going to be easy because Kevin Owens is going to attack that knee. I mean, that's just how Kevin Owens is, plus, it's been eight years since he had the title.

Speaker 1:

I mean he wants that title back, especially losing to someone like Goldberg.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and the way he lost, to him too. It wasn't even a good match.

Speaker 1:

Goldberg matches are never good matches. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But a guy like Kevin Owens losing the way he did. He ain't never losing the way he did. He never got a rematch that I know of for that belt Did he get a rematch?

Speaker 1:

Plenty Roman Reigns.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying for that particular match that he lost against Goldberg. I don't remember him getting a rematch for that belt.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

He got a match later on, but he never got an official rematch against Goldberg. But anyways, I got Cody Rhodes winning in a hard-fought battle, as usual, just like any Kevin Owens matches. But yeah, that's who I got winning it's Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 1:

Well, alright.

Speaker 2:

Anything else you want to talk about before we close?

Speaker 1:

this out. Nah, I just. Oh, one more thing. The Basham Berlin card is like so small, like there's one, two, three, five, five matches on the card that means each match is probably going to be good or just super long super long or there may be some surprises in there now I think about it LA Knights Open Challenge should have been on Bachelor of Berlin and Nia Jax versus Mi-Chen should have been on Bachelor of Berlin. That's what happened yesterday, though.

Speaker 2:

They had it yesterday, though in Berlin. So they still had a match in Berlin, yes, you know. And then Braun Breaker's not wrestling.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 2:

That's surprising, but you know they got the tournament championship going on right now. Starting Monday. There's three title matches now and there's a match in Berlin. They're probably going to wait until Bad Blood to have those title matches on the Premier Live events. It's going to be some good matches, good long matches, or there's going to be maybe some surprises. Maybe somebody comes out, I don't know. Some good matches, good long matches, or there's going to be some maybe some surprises, maybe somebody comes out, I don't know. I'm just kind of curious to see what happens. We have only five matches on the card. This is a short, premium live event. I don't think this is going to happen.

Speaker 1:

It could just be short.

Speaker 2:

It could just be a short premium live event.

Speaker 1:

But I think Gunther and Ray, dior and Cody and Kevin are going to be the ones, or Drew and Bum could go for a long line, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just want to know who's going to open the show up.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think that's going to be. It would be so funny if it's Cody Rose versus Kevin Owens. They did that for ages. That was in Cody Rose.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, you want to open a show with a good match.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I know what they're going to open a show with.

Speaker 2:

What's that?

Speaker 1:

Terror Twins vs Judgment Day.

Speaker 2:

They could.

Speaker 1:

That's what I think they're going to do.

Speaker 2:

Some people don't like the opening card. Put one of the best matches on the opening card. That way you start the pre-live event off hot. The fans are into it. Fans are hyped. They get to see a good match. They don't gotta wait all night to see that match.

Speaker 1:

You start off good that's why Clash of the Castles was so good. They started off with an I Quit match exactly.

Speaker 2:

So you start off good and that way. Then you can kind of mellow it down a little bit with a good match like an Unholy Union match pretty good match there and then I mean card is going to be a good match, just based on the people in the matches. I mean there's no, there's no bad match on here. I mean unholy union, albafire and aladon. A lot of people think that's going to be, that's, that's. They shouldn't be champions.

Speaker 2:

But if you've seen any wrestling outside wwe, you know that albafire and aladon are great wrestlers in their own right. I mean, are they as good as Bianca and Jade? Don't know, they've been wrestling longer, but I mean they've known each other for years, longer than Jade and Bianca have. So they actually know each other's moveset and all that. They've wrestled each other plenty of times. So I mean you don't have any like what do you call them Squashes? Look like it's going to happen. I mean they're all going to be good matches. I mean, yeah, we know Bianca and Jade are strong, but Alba, fire and Aladon, they are the champions for a reason.

Speaker 1:

You could be terrible, I mean even.

Speaker 2:

Dominic and Liv are good wrestlers in their own right. I mean yeah. I mean, yeah, Rhea Ripley is probably a better wrestler than Liv Morgan. Yeah, but is Damian Priest a better wrestler than Dominic overall?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

You think so Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, man, you got to watch that documentary to know. I mean.

Speaker 2:

I know he's been wrestling for a long time, but Dominic has been traveling all around the world learning how to wrestle.

Speaker 1:

And Damien Priest hasn't.

Speaker 2:

No, I didn't say he hasn't, but, like Dominic, a lot of times Dominic gets booed. I mean he gets booed fairly, I mean because of what he did to Rey Mysterio and all that and just because he's his character. Yeah, exactly. But if you look at his wrestling ability he's good he can do. He can wrestle almost any type of wrestling match.

Speaker 2:

You know, so I'm kind of curious to see what he's going to do with this new Judgment Day, if they're going to let him actually wrestle, you know. I mean, yeah, he's going to have the heel stuff, he's going to do it live and all that, but just him, one-on-one matching and just a match. I'm kind of curious to let them see what they're going to do with that. But yeah, but yeah. So that's that's it with that one. Anything else you want to talk about before we close this out? No, alright, that's been another episode. I'm Ben.

Speaker 2:

I'm back this has been.

Speaker 1:

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