Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
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Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
The Ultimate AEW Dynasty Preview
Ben and Bash break down the entire AEW Dynasty match card, offering predictions for each bout while analyzing potential storyline developments and championship changes.
• Julia Hart vs Mercedes Moné in the Owen Hart Cup Tournament first round could see interference from Athena to help Julia secure a win
• Will Ospreay expected to defeat Kevin Knight in what should be a clean, competitive Owen Hart Cup Tournament match
• Chris Jericho defending ROH World Championship against Bandido in a high-stakes title vs mask match
• No time limit, no outside interference stipulation for TNT Championship match between Daniel Garcia and Adam Cole
• The Hurt Syndicate challenging The Learning Tree with potential MJF involvement affecting the outcome
• Triple threat International Championship match between Kenny Omega, Ricochet, and Mike Bailey could steal the show
• Death Riders defending trios titles against Rated FTR with possible betrayal storyline developing
• “Timeless” Toni Storm praised as wrestler of the year while defending against powerhouse Megan Bayne
• Jon Moxley vs Swerve Strickland main event likely to involve Death Riders interference
welcome to the Ben and Bash podcast tag team talk.
Speaker 2:I'm Ben.
Speaker 1:I'm Bash. It's time to lace up your boots and hit the mat with the Ben and Bash podcast tag team talk all right for another one.
Speaker 2:We are going to be doing our prediction for AEW dynasty. Uh, you know how we do it just run down a match card. So far, um, and uh, just give our prediction what we think gonna happen storyline progressions, uh, maybe future stuff, uh, so let's get to it uh, the first match in the card is julia hart versus mercedes monet in the first round Owen Hart Cup Tournament.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure about this one. I feel like I don't know. My gut instinct is to say Mercedes, but I don't know. I might probably have to say Mercedes, though, because originally Mercedes was my pick to win the whole Owen Hart Cup tournament, but I'm not sure. So I'm going to say Mercedes Monet beats Julia Hart. You know what you think, yeah.
Speaker 2:Nah, I think. I mean, if it was a regular match, yes, but if you watched AEW, was it last week, you know, athena came out. And her and Mercedes had some words and a little bit of action happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're going to sell that on Collision.
Speaker 2:A little squabble. There's no Collision this week because of the pay-per-view. Or is it Collision this week?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think there is.
Speaker 2:Okay, there might be Collision this week.
Speaker 1:I think it's on Saturday Because it's on.
Speaker 2:Sunday Okay, it's on Sunday, that's right. Okay, that's right, it's on Sunday, so it's on Sunday. It is Collision. So, yeah, collision Saturday. So, whatever happens on Collision, was it All In? Yeah, all In in Texas that's where I think it's from Mm-hmm. So they're going to wrestle, so I think it's going to come out in a fair match to get their feud built up some more. But, yeah, you know, I think it came out. They had a little squabble, you know, I think it came out on top for a minute. But yeah, I mean, mercedes doesn't need this win.
Speaker 1:She just needs it, mm-hmm. Okay, can we talk about something for a second? Okay, there's like Roman Reigns, two titles, but like she has four entire sets of belts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's a belt collector. What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1:She's like Thanos, trying to collect all the affinity stones, Exactly yeah. What's wrong with that? She shouldn't have every title in, like every single company ever exist?
Speaker 2:then beat her, then beat her. If they don't want her out of the belt, then beat her, simple as that. Then find somebody to beat her in other companies. I mean, if they don't want her to have it, then find somebody that can beat her. I mean simple as that. Yeah, you know. So I mean Julia Hartney. I mean she's just coming back from a injury. I can't remember what kind of injury it was, but she's coming back from an injury, maybe a knee injury or something like that. I can't remember, but she's just come back from an injury. So, yeah, she needs this more. You know, get some more momentum built up. I've taken a little hiatus last year. Mercedes, she doesn't need it. She's all these belts she has a few coming with her at all in. I mean, yeah, it'd be good to win the own Hart Cup because it's a great tournament for a great call. He's a great wrestler. But you know, julia Hart needs a little more than Mercedes does.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. You know, so you're picking Julia Hart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with some interference from Athena or Philly Starks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Winning them two.
Speaker 1:Okay For the second match on the card. It's Will Ospreay versus Kevin Knight, and Kevin Knight replaced Jade White and.
Speaker 2:This is also the first round.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait, it is. Yeah, it's also the first round of the.
Speaker 2:Heart Cup match.
Speaker 1:This is the only Owen Hart Cup thing besides the women's match. Right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:As far as I know anyways, unless they have some other ones. But yeah, as far as I know, it's the only other one on there.
Speaker 1:And it's Will Ospreay and Kevin Knight, and I got a glimpse of Kevin Knight just in the past AWs, just like in the past AWs. But I think Will Ospreay is gonna win the entire cup tournament, and in order to win the cup tournament, you have to win first round. So I'm predicting Will Ospreay beats Kevin Knight. I think it's gonna be a clean match too, cause I think they have respect for each other.
Speaker 2:Kevin Knight he's been to be a clean match too, because I think they have respect for each other. Yeah, same Kevin Knight. He's been around for a while. I mean, he was in New Japan Pro Wrestling. He was in, I think, the Super Juniors this year. Yeah, Super Juniors. He was in TNA for a little while and he made his way over to AEW last month, I think it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it was last month I saw him for the first time at AEW. So I mean he's been around for a little while and you know he's finally getting his shine on in AEW. I mean this is going to be a good match. I mean, you know, and Will Ospreay always puts good matches on anyways. So but yeah, like I said, will Ospreay he's, unless the wild card is somebody. So what? There's a wild card in the men's. I can't remember if there's a wild card in the women's tournament or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think there is.
Speaker 2:There's a wild card in the men's match. Who that is, I'm not sure, but as far as it goes right now it looks like Will Ospreay is probably the frontrunner for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because he's will osprey. And you know, I mean depending on who the wild card if it's like this big name, but they're wrestling on adam page though hangman.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we'll see, we'll see, I don't know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like that's some tough competition yeah, oh, hard cup usually is tough competition wait um are will osprey and hangman page on different sides of the bracket.
Speaker 2:I'll have to look at it to see.
Speaker 1:Because, if they are, I feel like they're going to be in the finals, depending on who the wild card is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll have to look at it and see if they're on the same bracket or not. But yeah, I got Will Ospreay going for the win on that one as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and for the third match on the card is Chris Jericho versus Bandito in a title versus mask match, and the title on the line is the World's Honor. Wait, how do you say that I forgot Ring of Honor World Championship? See that I forgot ring of honor world championship. Um, and uh, for this one, I mean, chris jericho has been a dominant champion. Um, I mean, I don't know, I don't see bandito.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't really call him dominant, but he's been a champion. I'm don't want to call it dominant, though, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't see Bandito losing his mask. You know His brother did, yeah his brother did, but like I just don't see him losing his mask, but I don't see Chris Jericho losing the title either.
Speaker 2:And people didn't think Chris Jericho was going to lose his mask either. And he did, and he did, and he did too. So I mean it's happened before. I mean Santos lost his in AAA, I think it was yeah. So I mean people I can't remember if Andrade lost his or he just took his off when he came to the B, I can't remember, but I mean it's been.
Speaker 2:You know, luchador has lost their match before you know, but yeah, I don't know if Ben-Dude's actually going to lose his or not. I don't see him losing his either, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah go ahead.
Speaker 1:I don't know, though, because the Learning Tree has a match, so they're probably not going to get involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think they will, but it could, though it depends on where this matches on the card.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It could be here or it could be there on the card Learning Tree. Could be first, I don't know. However, you know the card is subject to change. It could be. Who knows how the card matches are going to be actually.
Speaker 1:I think Hold on. I need to think about this for a second. I think Bandito is going to win.
Speaker 2:You think Bandito is going to win?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the only logical way because, unless I mean he loses his mask I haven't seen Luchador lose his mask in a while. I mean, that's rare for Luchador to lose his mask Like legitimately, like without somebody taking it off. You know, like I said, with Gravity it happened what Chris Jericho did and then like what Chris Jericho did, and then what Xavier Woods did to Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Grande America. You can't forget about him.
Speaker 2:What they did, take the mask off, like that Stuff, like that happens. But to lose a title versus mask match and you just gotta take your mask off so that everybody can. You can't hide your face as part of the match. You gotta take your actual mask off so people can see your face. So I don't see, unless Bandito is, unless he's ready to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know like, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:And it would make sense for him to have the title too.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you know, I mean Chris Jericho's had to. He's had to build long enough already yeah so yeah, it would make sense for Bandito to win, you know. So yeah, I got Bandito. And you know, and yeah, chris Jericho could get to build somebody. I don't like Chris Jericho, that ring on her build anyways.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's rarely on Ring of Honor TV. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2:He wrestles all the time on Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that he had the world title. I thought he had the mid-card title for the longest.
Speaker 2:No, he has a ring on him too. He has a world championship. Yeah, like I said, ben Neal actually wrestles on Ring of Honor sometimes. I've not seen Chris Yurik on Ring of Honor. That I know of anyways.
Speaker 1:I think I've seen him on a couple pay-per-views, but that's it.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm saying the TV shows. I rarely see him on those. Yeah, he's never on. Yeah, but yeah for another match on the card it's Daniel Garcia versus.
Speaker 2:Adam Cole for the AWTNA Championship. Tnt, tnt, that's what I meant?
Speaker 1:Did I say TNA?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Thursday, so yeah.
Speaker 1:And there's no time limit or um no outside interference which is big cause. Yeah, both guys have uh teams and groups that that can help them out yeah, you know, the time limit part is really big cause most cause most title matches like this, but they wrestled before to a time limit draw.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why they got no time limit because they both wrestled to a time limit draw before. So no time limit means there has to be, it has to be a winner. You can't, you can't say there's a 30 minute rule and then 30 minutes go up and the winner retains his belt, so there has to be a winner, unless there's disqualification which now I mean it's adam cole.
Speaker 1:But like I don't know because I don't know, because I just I don't know on this one it's gonna be.
Speaker 2:It's a hard one.
Speaker 1:There's two good wrestlers um, since it's so close to all land, unless they're pulling WWE um, I don't see Adam Cole winning the championship this close to all winning. So I'm going to just say Daniel Garcia, because he's been a dominant champion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm going to get Adam Cole to win because he's had a rough go around and broke his ankle. I mean he came back, got hurt again. I mean he can't catch a break right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he needs his more than Daniel Garcia does, for sure, oh yeah, definitely. I mean absolutely. So I think Adam Cole is going to pull this out. It's going to be a hard fought battle, for sure. Oh yeah, this could easily be one of the matches of the night, if not the match of the night right here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean you got two good wrestlers. I mean so yeah, this could easily be match of the night right here, for sure, definitely. But yeah, I got Adam Cole winning this one in a real close match, but adam cole's gonna pull it out, I think, uh, yeah, I think ab coles gonna pull this one out, just you know yeah, and for another match on the card, it's the hurt set sent signiquin.
Speaker 1:I can never pronounce that word syndicate, syndicate, uh, versus the Learning Tree which is Big Bill and Brian Keith for the AEW World Tag Team Championships, and for this one, for some reason, I didn't know who's going to win. But then a thought popped in my mind earlier.
Speaker 2:Don't know you better not say it.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I think that MJF is going to interfere in the match and give the Hurt Syndicate the win.
Speaker 2:Okay, I thought you were going to go somewhere else with that. Okay, okay, is it? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I mean Bobby Lashley, yeah.
Speaker 1:Sheldon Benjamin Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:MVP, mvp, I mean they have Big Bill though. I mean Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sheldon Benjamin, mm-hmm. Mvp. I mean, they have Big Bill though.
Speaker 2:They got Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, brian Keefe is a good wrestler too. He's one of the better wrestlers too, yeah, but Sheldon Benjamin is too, uh-huh. Bobby Lashley is too.
Speaker 1:MVP, not Slav. I think they have the better team.
Speaker 2:Exactly by far. Well, yeah definitely by far to her, seneca does. And then you got MVP, and then, like I said, who knows what MJF is going to be up to?
Speaker 1:Because he said prove himself.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:But then they're also trying to prove themselves, so it kind of evens out.
Speaker 2:But could MJF cost him by accident? Trying to prove himself. Yeah, I mean mean, I hope he doesn't. But what happens if he comes out there and try to prove himself and cost them the bill?
Speaker 1:okay and then that leads to something else yeah, you know like hope he doesn't, but like if he does come out like cost in the match I don't know why, but I kind of want the learning tree to win, but I don't think they're going to be unbearable? I don't think they're gonna win, but I feel like I I want them to win, but I don't think they're going. That'd be unbearable. I don't think they're going to win, but I feel like I want them to win.
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not. No, that's going to be unbearable. On Dynamite and Collision, they already talked too much, as is you imagine that with the tag team builds too.
Speaker 1:Come on.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. No, they already talked too much With Chris Jericho too. No, no, no, they already talked too much with Chris Jericho too. No, no, man. And they probably used the free word rule too yeah, where, chris. Jericho could be. He could be one of the champions too, like New Day did and like other uh trios, uh groups have done yeah so, yeah, hurston and Kidd, I think, is gonna win it.
Speaker 2:You know, I I really hope MJF doesn't cost him this match because I really don't want to see the hurt of their entry. So I'm going to go with the Hurston and Kidd just because of that.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, hurston and Kidd yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, for the next match on the card is Kenny Omega versus Ricochet versus Speedball Mike Bailey for the AEW International Championship. Now Ricochet and Mike Bailey both pinned the same person. I forgot his name. It was someone from the Don Callis family.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he used to be with Hal Fletcher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he still is. Yeah, he's with him now.
Speaker 2:I can't think of his name now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 2:Mark something, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But they both pin the same person and there's a triple threat match now, so anything can happen. But I mean, it's Kenny Omega, it's.
Speaker 2:Ricochet, man, ricochet. This is probably Ricochet's best run, but go ahead.
Speaker 1:But it's Kenny Omega, though I think Kenny Omega is better than Ricochet.
Speaker 2:He is, but this is Ricochet's best work in a while, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's doing. People don't like Ricochet, but this is Ricochet man. He's doing his best work right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean he's embracing the crowd hating him and he's been executing it perfectly. He knows the crowd doesn't like him for whatever reason and he's been literally feeding off of it and doing it better. He's just been feeding off of it. Sometimes you need that change of scenery. Sometimes it's better to do that. He left WWE, came to AEW and he's doing better now. So some people thought when he left WWE he wasn't going to be doing this, and for a while he was like he was going to be in the same situation in AEW. But then fans started booing him and he used that as a way to get to where he's at now, and now he's in the Magic Kenny Omega and Mike Bailey.
Speaker 2:You're talking about Kenny Omega, one of the best wrestlers in the world, mike Bailey's pretty good himself, not going to slouch either. It's a triple threat match. I mean, this is another match that could be up there for match of the night as well, by far. I mean, who'd you pick to win this one?
Speaker 1:Oh, I haven't picked yet. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and finish yours up.
Speaker 1:Let's see. I just don't see Kenny Omega losing the championship. This, not this close to all-in, but this.
Speaker 2:This close to all-in.
Speaker 1:No, not this close to all-in, just like I don't see Kenny Omega having this short of a reign.
Speaker 2:But he don't have to lose that strip threat match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all those apply, but like.
Speaker 2:That's a problem too, though he don't have to lose it. He don't have to get pinned to lose his belt. That's the danger of a triple threat match. Like Mike Bailey can get pinned by Ricochet and Ricochet wins. Yeah, can get pinned by. Ricochet, ricochet wins, or vice versa Mike Bailey can pin Ricochet and Mike Bailey wins and Kenny Omega loses his belt.
Speaker 2:And didn't even win any decision, instead of a one-on-one where you've got to beat the champ, which is a little bit harder to beat Kenny Omega in a one-on-one match, you put another person in there, now Kenny Omega don't got to win or fatal four-way or elimination match, you know, or ladder matches or whatever that match kind of be. You know now you got a better chance of beating them because then you got more obstacles and more. You know, more things in the match that can affect the match. Instead of a regular one-on-one.
Speaker 1:I think Mike Bailey takes the pin right.
Speaker 2:He just came to AEW too. I don't know, that's the problem. Who takes the pin? Because Kenny Omega is up there. Ricochet is having a heck of a run.
Speaker 1:If Kenny Omega loses, I don't think he takes the pin.
Speaker 2:Or he could, and that could set the feud with whoever pins him for All In.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean whoever pins him. That could set the few between them one-on-one at all in.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like I want to see Ricochet and Kena Megas in a one-on-one match.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think most people want to see Ricochet and Will Ospreay, but that's not going to happen right now. They're saving that one. No, they've done that before. Yeah, but they're saving the match.
Speaker 1:Like the big match.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're saving that one for a while Because they're there. They're both in the same company, so they can hold that one for a minute and they don't have to put them together right now, when they were in different companies.
Speaker 1:It was just seen as another dream match.
Speaker 2:Exactly when they had wrestling show. They were younger.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And since they were both in different companies, they're not going to wrestle each other anymore because they're in two different companies. Now that they're in the same company, you know. But yeah, I'm going to pick, you say, kenny Omega.
Speaker 1:No, I still haven't picked.
Speaker 2:I just don't know. I think it's. This is a hard one, because who loses?
Speaker 1:Who takes the?
Speaker 2:pin? That's the real question who takes the pin in this match?
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I'm thinking about that, but I'm going to just say Kenny Omega wins, yeah, but I just don't know who takes the pin, because if I'm picking Kenny Omega, he doesn't take the pin.
Speaker 2:He pins somebody, so who's he pinning? Mike Bailey, I think Mike.
Speaker 1:Bailey takes the pin? Yeah, but who do you got winning? Have you picked yet?
Speaker 2:I know who I want to win. I hope he wins because his work so far has been good. He's embracing the crowd. He's actually doing good crowd work too, ricochet. I hope Ricochet wins. He's doing good crowd work too. Like, like I said, he's embracing the heel persona. You know just, he's doing everything the right way. I mean he's he's a, he's a heel, but he's doing everything the right way. You know the fans hating him. He's not trying to. He's not trying to get the fans to like him yeah you know the fans don't like him.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool. I don't like you either, but I'm still gonna go out here and wrestle better than anybody you like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the best tip at heel work. Not trying to make the crowd like you, but just understanding that the crowd doesn't like you Exactly.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go out here and wrestle and be the best wrestler in the match and you still not going to like me. Okay, cool, I'm better than your favorite wrestler. Now what you know now what.
Speaker 1:Unless your favorite wrestlers are like three people obviously yeah, I mean it's just yeah, this guy is better than him I'm just saying on average he's better than most people favorite right there's like three people in aw are better than in my opinion yeah, I mean it's a few, but yeah, at least three.
Speaker 2:But but yeah, I got ricochet winning that one, just because his heel work so far has been nice so I have Kenny Omega, you have Ricochet.
Speaker 1:So are we just saying Mike Bailey takes the pin?
Speaker 2:no, I'm gonna say Ricochet pins, kenny Omega, and it sets up all in. I'm gonna say Ricochet pins, kenny Omega, and it sets up them in a one on one for all in.
Speaker 1:I'm not seeing their.
Speaker 2:You ricochet pins in Omega and it sets up them in a one-on-one for all in.
Speaker 1:I'm not seeing their vision.
Speaker 2:See the vision man.
Speaker 1:See the vision, stick to it. See the vision. No, but for another match on the card, you were done right. Another match on the card is the Death Riders versus Rated FTR. For the Trios match, you were done right, yeah, another match on the card is the death riders versus rated, rated ftr. For the uh, it's a trios match. Um, for the aw world trios championships and the death riders have been on a hot streak winning lately and ftr seems a bit rated. Ftr seems a bit rocky so far a bit rated.
Speaker 2:Ftr seems a bit rocky so far. A bit A bit Rocky. Yeah, a little bit Shoot. They're on different sides. They're on different sides, seems like.
Speaker 1:And I just think that built up aggression from all three people really in the group. I just think it just spills out into this match and there's just complications and the Death Riders win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all that you got. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's my prediction.
Speaker 2:All right, stay with me now. Death Riders win.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:But only because FTR turns on Cope.
Speaker 1:I'm losing you right there. Yep, I'm losing you right there. Yep, I don't see that, because they're frustrated with Cope.
Speaker 2:They're frustrated with each other, but they can get over their issues and what I think is going to happen happen. They've both been going at each other. They've refused to shake each other's hand. They had the issues with the referee last week. I think so he paid them $500, whatever it was it was $10,000, paid them some money, apologized to them and all that. You know didn't shake his hand.
Speaker 1:But $10,000 for pushing someone. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:You know they're old school guys. Never put your hand on them for free at all. They're free. Never put your hand on them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like, like that's at least a thousand, not ten thousand though probably put an extra in there for them.
Speaker 2:Probably friends, probably friends for each other too, but uh, but no. So I'm gonna say that I mean FTR. They have been heels before mm-hmm, yeah, they have been heels before. So and and we all know Copa's history of people turning on- him. Oh yeah, a lot so it's inevitable that his that history of people turning on him. Oh yeah, A lot. So it's inevitable that people he's with turns on him. It just never fits.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's had a good relationship in a while.
Speaker 2:Exactly Nobody. No matter who he's with, no matter what group he's with, they always turn on him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, he started off a Christian Mm-hmm, and then so far, most recently it was the Judgment Day.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:MJF, no MJF.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it was somebody in AEW.
Speaker 2:Malachi.
Speaker 1:Malachi Was it.
Speaker 2:Malachi.
Speaker 1:Were they friends? I don't know if they were friends or not. I think their rivalry just started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, their rivalry started but yeah, it was a few people, but yeah then, yeah, the obvious Jonathan, day and Dominic and all that yeah but yeah, he's always had people turn on him left and right.
Speaker 2:but yeah, I think FTR is just gonna be frustrated Cope because they can't get on the right foot and Cope keeps bringing them into his fuse and they're getting beat down because of him. Why is FTR fighting in a trios match with the Death Riders? They're a tag team, not a trios team. Why are they not wrestlers to hurt Syndicate or the Learning Tree? Why are they in a match with the Death Riders and possibly finna get killed?
Speaker 1:That's what both of them were talking about. That's what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying Death Riders, try to kill people in matches.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like they put pass the bag on people's head.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like why am I gonna be in a match with them and why are you getting me in a match with these guys?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like what are we doing here? You put their differences aside and join back together. Turn heel on Cope during this match, or it might be after the match, who knows? They may lose and then turn on. Yeah, when they're trying to hug and all that, then boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I think it's going to be like they hug and then Cope tries to get in and then you know, Boom, beat him down.
Speaker 2:Yeah so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So death riders. Uh, you know, retain aw world trio championship yeah, how long have they had the trio?
Speaker 2:I don't know. They had it for a while.
Speaker 1:They haven't defended them though is it longer for john moxley?
Speaker 2:maybe close to the same, I think it's maybe a little bit longer, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's longer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they win it before then yeah, but um yeah, that's all you gonna say, right, yeah, that's it and for the next match on the card it's Timeless Tony Storm versus Megan Bain for the AEW Women's World Championship. And for this one, I mean you have to think about interferences first of all, and then I don't know, because like I don't know, I think, like my gut instinct says timeless tony storm, but like you have to think interferences and just shenanigans in general, yeah, um, but I must say I know I say this a lot, but I don't think this close to all in is going to someone's going to win the championship or like, yeah, win the championship.
Speaker 2:So you got Toni Storm.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, before I start this, toni Storm is the best wrestler this year by far yeah she's gonna win wrestler of the year again. If she doesn't, that's a robbery yeah, she won wrestler of the year last year. She better win again this year. There's no other female wrestler heck. There's no other man wrestler out there right now. I mean there's.
Speaker 1:Will Ospreay?
Speaker 2:no, no, but like the best character Just best wrestler, yeah, like her. Oh yeah, the best character obviously I mean but that's supposed to say that's all around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:PWI best wrestler period, that's everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, championship fuse everything and she's been the best.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she has some good fuse too.
Speaker 2:That Herb Mariah May. That's probably a feud of the year right there by far. If that's not a feud of the year, what is?
Speaker 1:I have no idea. Name me another. One Hasn't even compared, really.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I mean CM Punk and Drew McIntyre was close, but it wasn't like this. This was different.
Speaker 1:Even like yeah, you said WWE.
Speaker 2:I thought we were talking about AEW, say I'm talking about all of wrestling period. Yeah, like I. I was thinking about that for a second. I said pwi is all wrestlers. Yeah, so pwi, when they let, when it's holding you know, pwi, yeah, pro wrestling illustrated, they release, uh, like they do. I think it's top 500 wrestlers of the year.
Speaker 1:I think okay for this year. Um does last year stuff count too? It's in the, it's in the calendar year. Oh so when it releases sometime this year, um does last year's stuff count too?
Speaker 2:it's in the it's in the calendar year oh so when they release it sometime this year uh, usually like summertime, I think in the summer early fall oh cause, if they're doing that, does Roman Reigns and Cody Rose not count? For a few of the year yeah, yeah. Maybe I don't know. I'm not sure when it gets to Salt, if it does count.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I feel like that's going to get either that or Mamara Mayhem.
Speaker 2:No, Rahm and Tony Storm refute a year for sure. That's not even close.
Speaker 1:I think what makes the Cody Rose's Roman Reigns feel so good is the last match, the WrestleMania yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean that's probably like moment of the year.
Speaker 1:That could be moment of the year. It did rank there, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Moment of the year, yeah, because he had all the nostalgic people come back and all that. But not match of the year, no, no, no. But feud of the year, yeah, I mean match of the year, I don't know if we would put Tony Storm there for match of the year. No, I don't think.
Speaker 2:It was up there yeah because you got some other matches. You probably got some New Japan wrestling. I haven't been to New Japan this year too much, but New Japan has some pretty good matches as far as match of the year candidates.
Speaker 1:I mean just the indies in general probably have better matches than the top companies, I think.
Speaker 2:That's what I like about Pro Wrestling Illustrated PWI. They put a lot of indie wrestlers in there too.
Speaker 1:So they have like 500 wrestlers 500? Yeah, 1,000. Or 500? No, 500.
Speaker 2:Oh, and that's 500 wrestlers like all over, not just WB, aew, tna. Ring Honor it's like people who like wrestle in like Comeback Zone and you know this one and that one and you know Pro Guerrilla.
Speaker 1:And you that one. And yeah, you know pro gorilla.
Speaker 2:And then you know, I mean pro gorilla is probably probably like that, like mlw or something like that. They got ones like even smaller than those.
Speaker 1:You know, you know those are probably the biggest, like indie promotions it was c, c, czw or whatever it is. I think it's not pronounced, I think it's something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the, the hardcore one yeah yeah, like, but they have those guys in there, you know, guys you probably never heard of, and then guys you may see later on. You know you know up and comers, sometimes some guys you may see in there, oh okay, and then boom, you know so not to get off topic, but yeah, so, yeah, pro wrestling. Yeah, that's by far it's going to be, she's going to by far be women wrestler of the year easily again, there's not everybody's going for second place yeah, there's not.
Speaker 2:There should not be a doubt in anybody's mind especially at women's that's what I'm saying. Women's wrestling probably men's too, but I mean men's wrestler of the year it's going to give it to Cody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably they're going to give it to Cody. It should be Will Osborne, I think, yeah but they're going to give it to Cody.
Speaker 2:They're going to give it to Cody. They're going to give it to Cody, but anyways, off topic.
Speaker 1:I don't think Cody deserves a relief he's going to get it though, but anyways, you already get your go already. Not to get off topic again, but Mar me, mariah May might win Women of the Long. No, toni, storm, Mariah, she might be top 10, but no, Toni Storm Top 10?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, top 5.
Speaker 1:She has to be number 2.
Speaker 2:No she'd be top 10. No, these are the only people who'd be top 5 of 10. Because you got other wrestlers in there. How many do you still got Tippi Stratton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jordan Grace. Rhea ripley dang, I forgot, I forgetting.
Speaker 2:It's not just adw so I mean marcia stanovich yeah so I mean athena I mean she's been ringing on a champ for like two years. So dang, I didn't know the ring was that long yeah, she's been ringing on chat for a while. So you got I mean you got a bunch of women, that I mean you got people from independent res I can't think of names right now but you got a bunch of them that can easily be, you know yeah, it's like there's a bunch of them in there.
Speaker 2:Then you got normal. You know baileys and charlottes and biancas and jays and yeah, oh, maybe bianca might win women's of the Year. No, she's not going to win it. I'm just saying you got the ones like that and then you know.
Speaker 1:No, oh, I know what.
Speaker 2:And then, you got Mercedes, who's been collecting belts all year, you know.
Speaker 1:I know who's the top contender for second. What's that, io Sky?
Speaker 2:Yeah, io Sky, yeah, you got them.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's what you're going to say for that match.
Speaker 2:No, I appreciate who's going to win.
Speaker 1:Who are you?
Speaker 2:saying is going to win.
Speaker 1:Oh, toni Storm, Toni Storm.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I got Toni Storm winning too. Megan Baines is good. I think she's still a little young Not young, but a little. This is going to be a good match.
Speaker 1:Like too early in the history, she's a powerhouse, though she's definitely a powerhouse by far.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm ready. You know who I want to see her wrestle against when she comes back from injury? Who Camille?
Speaker 1:Her and Camille in the match. Make it when they get back.
Speaker 2:You know she's already wrestled Chris Statlander already she wrestled her like on Dynamite, was it yeah? So when. Camille comes back from. I think a is gonna win this easily, and but I want to see who they're gonna feud her with for going into all in, because I mean I don't know, I don't know if rob may is gonna get that again or they're gonna have it somebody else, I think thunder rosa, maybe, yeah, maybe because they're in texas thunder rose from mexico, so I don't know if it's gonna be yeah, who would it be?
Speaker 2:actually, I don't know, I'm saying I have'm saying I have no idea, but anyways, Tony Thomas, Tony Storm's going to win it's. I think it's going to be another good match. I mean, she doesn't really have bad matches. Oh yeah, not really I mean you know, I mean you know we got to talk about, you know, nxt time NXT. That'd be fun with Toni Storm by far. They ain't know what to do with her. Yeah, I mean, they fumbled her big time.
Speaker 2:I mean you don't get rid of somebody like her, but I'm glad they did, because now she's able to show what she can do as far as a character aspect and a wrestling aspect.
Speaker 1:So but yeah, is that her real name.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:No, because what? How could she keep it?
Speaker 2:What's her wrestling? She already had a name for her WWE.
Speaker 1:Oh, what's her name for WWE? I forgot about that. Yeah, name for WWE. You can keep it. Or it's a real name, or a real name. How are they going to take a real name from?
Speaker 2:you Real name or name for WWE, then you're good.
Speaker 1:But yeah, for the last match on the card is Jon Moxley versus Swerve Strickland, with Prince Nana in his corner, for the AEW World Championship. And the first thing with any of the Death Rider matches you have to think of the interferences that could possibly happen. But the Death Riders do have a match. But Marina Shafir is still available. She doesn't have a match. But marina shafir is still available. She doesn't have a match. Yeah, um, and depending on how serious uh willow's um neck injury is, you know, um, she could. She could be out of action for maybe a month or two or she could show up, who knows?
Speaker 1:She might show up with a neck brace, which I think is going to happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean who knows, but you know what I'm saying. Who knows how bad it might be when it gets?
Speaker 1:down to the really one-on-one. I think I'm saying this too much, but I just don't see Jon Moxley losing the title this close to Lynn.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that just me thinking that no.
Speaker 2:It's close to all in. Yeah, Is that just me like thinking that? No, that's fair, that's a fair assumption. I mean, I think it's a fair assumption anyways.
Speaker 1:Wait, when is all in again?
Speaker 2:Not sure, Next month maybe.
Speaker 1:I think it's June.
Speaker 2:Is it June, sometime in summer?
Speaker 1:No, july, it's like July the 11th.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because that's this month, that's Sunday, so two months from now. Usually it's two months in between pay-per-views, so this is April May. Yeah, it's probably June, july-ish, so we're on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think Jon Moxley is going to win.
Speaker 2:I really don't want Jon Moxley to retain the belt.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:He's had it too long. It's inevitable at this point. He's not thanos man come on he's he's basically thanos here's what I want to happen. I know it won't happen, but do you see the, the teaser between him and hanging man? Yeah that almost like they're, it's something they're gonna team up almost because, I mean, swerve admitted that he was in the wrong doing that feud yeah remember when the hangman said I burned your house down? He said, yeah, I deserved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then the hangman said what did you say? And then he walked off like he was good, like he's okay good, we good.
Speaker 1:Like he didn't say that, but the way he walked off.
Speaker 2:he didn't keep arguing, but then Swer, you got thrown the glass and all that, but he got back up.
Speaker 1:How did security leave, but right before, and just never came back?
Speaker 2:I mean, I really want Swerve to win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know there's going to be some time for glory going on down there, man. That's the number one thing for Death Rider matches, Unless Swerve has a plan, Because if you're smart which Swerve normally is you expect this to happen.
Speaker 1:He has a plan on all Dynamites when they show up.
Speaker 2:You expect it to happen. You expect them to be there. So if I'm Swerve, I'm having a having a backup plan too.
Speaker 1:I'm going to hire some people. I'm having a backup plan for my backup plan exactly.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go get some guys to help me out too, so that way, if they do show up, boom. Hey, y'all come on, help me, let's go, they show up. Y'all got my back right. All right, let's go, there we go. If they don't show up, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2:And if willow's good, it's probably willow and then, like you said, maybe hangman page or somebody, somebody need to help me because, okay, no, here's the thing, here's the thing. Everybody in aw, don't nobody want to get to help john moxley okay, yeah, here's like same thought as you.
Speaker 1:Here's what I'm thinking like extreme rules match, like we had against Cope. Why doesn't everybody in the locker room join together and jump him in the ring?
Speaker 2:Don't nobody want him to lose the bill.
Speaker 1:How are the Death Riders going to go? 5 against 40?
Speaker 2:Nobody wants to help.
Speaker 1:Nobody helps ever.
Speaker 2:Death Riders is going around beating everybody up backstage and none of them want to help out and get their payback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they attacked the whole roster and somehow won.
Speaker 2:So nobody in the locker room want to squabble up. Yeah so none of them want to squabble. That's what it is. So none of them want to squabble. They want to get beat up and don't want to get their look back. Yeah, because thatley is going to keep on winning. Keep on talking to people with that bulldog choke that he keep on doing and keep retaining the belt and walking out with that white t-shirt on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even the heels and the baby faces they could join together, because it's all for one cow.
Speaker 2:It's just to get John Moxley out the championship picture and give it to somebody else and then get the reference word.
Speaker 1:I think it's a little bit selfish, though, because I think it's like because, like they won't help, they won't want to help someone else because they don't want them to win the championship.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:I think that's what's happening across the locker room, yep.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so yeah, I mean, I think Jon's going to win, but I want Swerve to win, though. Man, I really want Swerve to win, like I'm saying it's inevitable.
Speaker 1:He might as well beat Thanos at this point. They're both bald.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say Swerve.
Speaker 1:Swerve.
Speaker 2:Nah, I know what's going to happen, but because I want to put it into the universe out there, I'm going to say swerve.
Speaker 1:You're just going to lose at this point.
Speaker 2:I know, but I want to put it out there. If I don't put it out there, it won't happen. So if I put it out there, maybe it'll happen. If I don't put it out there, it definitely won't happen.
Speaker 1:That's going to be one person thinking that so.
Speaker 2:I'm going to put it out there I'll be that one person, then It'll be two or three, we'll be the only three people going for it.
Speaker 1:There might be a couple more people you know.
Speaker 2:A few more, but we'll be the main three going for it.
Speaker 1:So but yeah, that's all you were going to say. That's it man All right.
Speaker 2:Anything else on this AEW Dynasty? Nope, all right. So nothing else to be said, I just want to say one thing like two words.
Speaker 1:This looks like a really good pay-per-view about to come up it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, aw always stacks their pay-per-views up it's going to be a long one, though it's going to be long.
Speaker 1:It's going to be about four hours wait is all in two nights, or one, just one dang, that's going to be like nine hours. I hope it should one Dang that's going to be like nine hours probably.
Speaker 2:I hope it. It should be two nights, but it's going to be one though, because I don't think they want to copy WWE and make it into two nights.
Speaker 1:that's just more convenient, though.
Speaker 2:If they put two nights, people are you know, what the IWC is going to be saying, but that's just the I, the actual like the, we know the people who pay for the, the green shirt guys. They won't care we know, but a lot of fans who do care gonna be like oh, they're copying the new music. They're copying, they're doing two nights, okay, so what? They're trying to split up to make more time, to give you more wrestling cause?
Speaker 1:why would? Why would? Why would you have it on one night when more people are just going to tune in for two nights?
Speaker 2:Because WrestleMania going on two nights one of the best things to ever happen.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I went to WrestleMania when it was one night so long it was something like four hours. Yeah, four and a half hours. I mean good, but you only got four and a half hours.
Speaker 1:Now you got like three, you got six hours now, yeah, and I went 7, like 8, I think 22, so 3 years ago and I could barely sleep through one night of Wrestlemania, with the Friday Night Smackdown and the Hall of Fame, but like, yeah, it's just more convenient that's what I'm saying, so so anything else we can talk about?
Speaker 2:nope, I think that's it alright, this has been another one. I'm Ben, I'm Bash. Another episode of.
Speaker 1:Tag Team.
Speaker 2:Talk.