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Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Tag Team Talk Breaks Down Every Match at NXT Battleground
Ben and Bash break down the entire NXT Battleground card with match-by-match predictions, potential storyline developments, and analysis of every championship bout.
• Predicting a heel turn for Josh Briggs in his tag match against The Culling
• Stacks likely to defeat Tony D'Angelo to cement his recent villainous character shift
• Sol Ruca expected to retain against Kelani Jordan with Zaria storyline developing
• Historic TNA Championship match between Joe Hendry and Trick Williams could make wrestling history
• Stephanie Vaquer's technical skills should overcome Jordynne Grace's power in women's title clash
• Oba Femi seems positioned to continue his dominant NXT Championship reign against Myles Borne
• Potential post-match angles could set up feuds for WWE's upcoming World's Collide event
• Speculation about main roster call-ups affecting championship landscape
Remember to check out our next episode where we'll break down AEW Double or Nothing
Welcome to the Burnin' Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2:I'm Ben.
Speaker 1:I'm Bash. I'm gonna lace up your boots and hit the mat with the Burnin' Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2:Alright, here we are for another one. We are going to be doing what are we doing? Nxt Battleground. We got a lot of wrestling coming on this weekend. I forgot what we're doing today, yeah, Because we're also going to be doing AEW, WWE and nothing after this. So I kind of forgot what we're doing right now. But, yeah, we're going to be doing NXT Battleground. So, yeah, you know, as always, predictions, what we think is going to happen, what we think is going to happen afterwards, storylines, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So what things that happen afterwards, storylines, all that kind of stuff. Well, yeah, let's get to it. Okay, for the first match on the card, it's Hagen Tank and Josh Briggs versus the Culling. So for this one I'm not really sure, because I don't know, because I was trying to plan out all my stuff, because a lot of these I just don't expect who to win. So I was trying to plan this out, but then I thought about it for a second. I don't know, but I probably have the Cullen, because they've been on kind of a slump since Sean Spears lost to Ricky Saints.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see that. So who do you got winning the?
Speaker 1:Cullen, you got the. You got winning the.
Speaker 2:Coler, you got the Coler winning Yep Just straight up.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute actually, no, no, I'm picking Hank and Tink and Josh Briggs. I forgot they're the NXT champions.
Speaker 2:But the belts not on the line though, I know. So I mean the belts not on the line. So you don't have to. Actually, I mean they don't have to lose. They're not going to lose their belts if they lose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to just go with Hink and Tink and Josh Briggs.
Speaker 2:I got you, so here's my thing I'm going with the colon because Josh Briggs is going to turn heel.
Speaker 1:You think?
Speaker 2:so yes, absolutely, they've been hitting at it for a while. I'm not having. He's a better heel anyways. He hasn't been able to do heel much in NXT, but independent scene he's a way better heel. He's a good heel. He's one of the because he's a big guy. Usually guys like that are better heels anyways.
Speaker 1:Baron.
Speaker 2:Corbin, those kind of guys are better heels anyways, and they are faces. He's trying to be a face and you see, his friends are always leaving him, so that's a good way to turn him heel, not because he wants to turn heel, but because his friends all leave him. So why do I need friends now? I'm going to do everything myself, so I don't need any friends. You see what I'm saying. So I think he's gonna turn on hank and tank and it cost them the uh, it cost them the match and that way the colon wins. Like it's not gonna be fair, but that's what. That's what I'm going with. I'm going with the colon wins because, because Josh Briggs turns on him, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yep, mm-hmm, yeah, I could. You could tell over a couple of weeks that he might turn heel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. They're going to pull this on the battleground because it's a premium live event too. I mean, usually good things happen on NXT. Nxt usually have good premium live events anyways. So I'm expecting something to happen on either this match or one of the other matches. Something's going to happen, so I'm expecting at least this one's going to probably have a good turning point on this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but for the second match on the card and my personal favorite match that's going to happen tonight tomorrow, tony D'Angelo versus.
Speaker 2:Stacks.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, wait, you do NXT Battleground.
Speaker 2:No, no, sorry, yes, tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Tony D'Angelo versus Stacks For this one. Stacks just turned heel at the last favorite. What was the last favorite-per-view?
Speaker 2:That was the standard liver, wasn't it? No For NXT.
Speaker 1:No Wait, I like this. Oh yeah, it was.
Speaker 2:For NXT it was standard liver.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they don't have as many as the main roster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think that Stax wins, because I think Stacks wins because he just turned heel. I don't think he should lose that quickly, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what he got, that's it.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't predict, like Luca Crucifino, to turn.
Speaker 2:We haven't seen him in a while. What happened to him in that desert?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, we saw what they implied, but that don't mean that actually happened, because it's been Stacks turned him. Yeah, could be torturing him right now, getting him to turn towards his side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I might say that I don't know. No, I don't know. I might say that I don't know?
Speaker 2:No, I don't think that's going to happen. So who are you going with Stacks? So you're going with Stacks, yep as much as.
Speaker 2:I hate to go with it. I'm going to have to go with Stacks as well, just because Stacks like I said before, stacks needs to win more because he just turned heel. You can't turn a guy heel like this, have a whole storyline built like this and have him lose his first match against Tony D'Angelo, because Tony D doesn't need this. I'm sure this is leading to Tony D'Angelo going to the main roster here soon. I'm sure this is what this is.
Speaker 1:Unless he wins the NXTxt title first no, I think he's gonna he. You don't think everybody needs to win the nxt title before he goes to the main roster yeah, everybody doesn't win it, but some of the people who went straight from the north american title, like dragon lee, like people like that, like maybe you should put like, like, or at least give them more time, you know, yeah, before they just push them up but sometimes they're that good though they're that good, they just don't.
Speaker 2:Sometimes the main roster just don't use them the way, the way they need to be used. You know, sometimes they don't have a. They don't have it's because you gotta think how many wrestlers on the main roster is so many and you only got between both shows. You only got two shows. Yes, they're for right now. Smackdown is three. Then they're going back to two hours sometime this year, not sure when.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm glad of that, because SmackDown is supposed to be like an eternity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's also going to take away an hour from the roster.
Speaker 2:So right now you got two shows and you got six hours. You know most of that's going to be storylines of the main wrestlers. Yeah, you know the Charlottes, tiffany's. When Cody comes back, when he comes back, seth Rollins, all those guys, that's going to be Becky Lynch, that's going to be the main talking people right there, and then you have a few other people who get sprinkled in, who might have a match here or there. So it's not much room for everybody. I mean so. So there's not much room for everybody. I mean so. Yeah, there's people on the main roster who should be wrestling, but where do you put them at? Yeah, y'all need a third show. I mean y'all need a third. I mean, you used to have Main Event. They don't have that. It don't come on anymore.
Speaker 1:I don't think Main Event doesn't come on anymore.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen it on. I haven't seen it. I haven't watched it in a while, but I haven't seen it. Have you seen it?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen it. I don't know if it comes on or not. I haven't looked for it, but I don't think it comes on anymore, not that I know of. Anyways, main event was for, like, the people who just don't get on the shows, for the NXT guys who now are on NXT yeah. So a lot of people are going to evolve who are on that show. So I get that. So WWE needs kind of another show kind of like that, where you can kind of have guys kind of like a main event.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know they used to have like a Sunday Night Heat which was like that it should have just kept me an event, in my opinion. Yeah, but like WWE had a show called Sunday Night Heat back in the day.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2:And that was kind of like a main event, but it came on regular TV. Yeah Well, not regular TV. It came on USA, but that was a show that came on and it had some wrestlers who wasn't known in the main, who wasn't known raw SmackDown. It won't even SmackDown really, yet SmackDown was just getting started. So but yeah, but yeah. So Tony D is probably going to go to the main roster eventually, so I'm going to have, I'm going to go with Stax on this one Winning this. Not sure how it's going to go. I mean, what kind of match it's going to be? I mean, I would.
Speaker 2:I would have thought it would be some kind of stipulation match yeah, it should but I haven't seen anything like this, like it's a regular match the way it seems. I mean, unless they change it, it looks like it's just a regular straight up match where they should have had some kind of stipulate crowbar match or you know something there's no stipulation on this match.
Speaker 1:There's, like's always, a ladder match.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. It should have been like a crowbar match or a trump match or something like that, where it should have been some kind of stipulation with this matchup because it's so much of a personal feud. So I guess you're going to get just a regular wrestling match and just see where it goes from there.
Speaker 1:So yeah, but for the next match on the card, it's Sawaruka versus Kehlani Jordan for the NXT North American Championship Women's. For this one I'm sure Sawaruka wins because she won the title pretty recently Not really recently, but pretty recently for pay-per-views the last pay-per-view. So I don't see someone just stripping the belt right off of her right after she won it at the last pay-per-view.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you're going for Sol Rooker.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, I'm going for Sol Rooker too. I mean, she's one of my favorites in NXT right now, anyways. I like Kalani Jordan too, but Sol Rooker's one of my favorites right now, anyways, but it looks like. Correct me if I'm wrong. If you think the same way.
Speaker 1:It looks like they're kind of setting up a few and Azaria Soruka.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I'm sure Azaria's not going to want to take the backseat to Soruka. For too long she's been trying. She's been blocking her from defending her belt. Looks like she's been fighting all the challengers, hoping that, okay, I'm beating all these people, I'm going to get me a title shot. Since I'm beating all the challengers, I'm going to ask for a title shot, since I'm beating all the challengers, so I'm going to ask for a title shot. But now Kalani Jordan beat her because Soruka got involved technically and that cost Zarya. So I wonder if Zarya is going to not interfere in the match but going to want to like after the match is over with. That was never intended to right.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:Oh, it wasn't no.
Speaker 2:Kalani it was. The simulation was, if Kalani won she would get to face.
Speaker 1:Soruka at a battleground.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if she lost she didn't, okay. So that was the stipulation. But what's do you know? The next NXT Prim Light event? Ooh no, I know World's Collider is another one, but that's not really NXT yeah, it's not really but after that is it the one around SummerSlam Heatwave maybe, I don't know they should do one around SummerSlam like Summer Bash or something that one paper is.
Speaker 1:Bash at the Beach yeah, bash at the Beach.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what they're going to do, but whatever the next premium Live event is for NXT Sol Ruka, I would think that Sol Ruka and Zarya would fight at that for the North American Championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because that's a good rivalry, that's kind of slow building.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, and they could probably put on a really good match too.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. I mean it would be. I mean, yeah, zara's a good. She's a good wrestler. I mean a lot of people don't know about her because she spent a lot of time in Australia before she came over to America. Yeah, so when she watched a lot of independent wrestling on like YouTube and stuff like that, you didn't really see much of her. Yeah, so a lot of people don't know much, like they did Julia and Stephanie and Jordan Grace they all came over together, but she was like the fourth one that people really didn't know much about unless you were really into the independent scene of wrestling. So, yeah, I got Sol Ruka winning against Klein Jordan. It should be a pretty good match. Both of them are pretty good wrestlers.
Speaker 2:You know Both of them got pretty good trainers helping them as far as that goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. Are you going to sleep with them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:Yep, you picked Saul Rooker right.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm Okay. You picked Saul Rooker too.
Speaker 1:Yep, okay. And for the next match on the card is Joe Hendry versus Tripp Williams for the TNA World Championship. And for this one, if you'd asked me a couple of days ago, I probably would have walked in Joe Hendry, no thought. But I honestly see Tripp Williams winning.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but the problem with that is. So here's my thing. I'm going to let you finish, though. Here's my thing with that. This is the first time ever that TNA championship, or men's championship, jordan Grayson did she defend her belt.
Speaker 1:She did against Roxanne? Wait, no, did Roxanne. Yeah, roxanne Perez defended her belt against Jordan Grayson.
Speaker 2:But Jordan Grayson defended her belt though.
Speaker 1:No, because Roxanne Perez won that match.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. So this is the first time a non-WWE belt that I can remember is being defended on NXT or WWE TV in general.
Speaker 1:Because they always defend NXT titles.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Trick Williams winning the TNA championship gives the TNA belt, which is still a separate company. Tna isn't part of WWE, they're still their own company.
Speaker 1:They just put rumors to WWE, yeah, but they haven't though what I'm saying is right now TNA is still a separate company.
Speaker 2:It's not like AAA or WWE bought AAA wrestling. They own AAA wrestling. Those wrestlers can come to WWE and vice versa. Were Triple A were going to be bought, triple A wrestling like they own Triple A wrestling, so those wrestlers can come to the WWE and vice versa. But here's the thing like, if Trick Williams was to win, would TNA like having a non-TNA wrestler as their world champion? I mean, it brings a lot of eyes and all that, but is that fair to a TNA men's locker room? See what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't know. Let me go ahead. I'm going to still think about that and let you finish your answer real quick.
Speaker 1:Damn. What do I got to answer first?
Speaker 2:Because you already started.
Speaker 1:I always started.
Speaker 2:I was just piggybacking off what you said about Trick Williams.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, I really don't Because I would, because, like, because I want to try to win, but I also want to just throw out something that I might be right. So I'm going to say Trick Williams.
Speaker 2:You're going to say Trick Williams wins, yep. Yeah, I mean, as much as I want to see that, because that would change the industry Be the first time a nun. I mean I can't remember a time where somebody from a different company won a belt in another company and they wasn't part of that company.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean Because I know, like Stephanie Viqueur, she wrestled against Mercedes Monet Lost her belt, but it wasn't AEW belt, it was like a New Japan belt, I believe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait, stephanie Buckeye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she rescued before she came to WWE. Oh, because she lost the belt because she was coming to WWE so she had to lose all the belts. So she lost. She had a bunch of belts.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She had like four belts Three or four belts, yeah and she lost all of them, but anyway. So I can't remember a time like that happening. So this would be history as far as I can remember. I mean, I look up and see if it happened any in the past, but I can't remember a time where a nun a nun wrestler from another company won a belt in another company, like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like WCW. I can't remember somebody else outside WCW winning a WCW belt that wasn't in WCW. Bret Hart, he was in WCW. A WCW belt that wasn't in WCW.
Speaker 1:Bret Hart.
Speaker 2:He was in WCW.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was.
Speaker 2:He was signed to WCW. I'm saying somebody that signed to that company. I mean, David Arquette won, but he was signed to WCW.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I can't remember a time where, like, a non WCW wrestler won WCW title, or a non-WCW wrestler one WWE title, or TNA or NWA or AEW or any of those types I can't remember. Or New Japan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because.
Speaker 2:Or any other independent scene. I can't remember a time when any of that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought it happened, but then I thought about it when you just said it.
Speaker 2:Like it might have happened in independent wrestling. But independent wrestlers look different because a lot of those are not they're not contracted wrestlers a lot of times yeah, and some of them just work together a lot anyway exactly so. They're not really contracted wrestlers so you can't really say they work for that company. A lot of times they come in when they need them and you know but yeah, but uh, but yeah, so I'm not sure. So you got trick, you got trick Williams.
Speaker 1:You have Joe Hendricks.
Speaker 2:As much as I want to see trick Williams win, I just don't see I'll be. I will be pleasantly surprised if trick Williams wins, but just from history wise, I don't think the wrestling guys they say, well, let this happen, so I'm gonna go with Joe Hendry winning and retaining his belt.
Speaker 1:Can I just say one thing if Joe Hendry were to lose, I think this is the time yeah, but then where does Trick Williams go?
Speaker 2:He's going to be on TNA Wrestling more.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean he has been on TNA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but people talk about him going to the main roster.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So now he can't go to the main roster. Now if he's on TNA Wrestling, I mean he can, but that's a lot of back and forth. If you're going to the main roster, you're going to TNA, you're going to in it, that's a I mean he can do it, but that's a lot. So I mean, do I? I mean, do I want him to win it? Sure, be nice little surprise, nice little change of pace for everybody in wrestling. It'll let everybody know that anybody can win a belt.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter if you sign or not, but that'll hold Trick back from going to the main roster though as well. Yeah, he'll win a world championship, but main roster spot. I know people have been talking about him going to the main roster for months now, after he lost the NNT championship the first time, or last time, rather, he'd be able been talking about him going to the main roster for months now, after he lost the NNT Championship the first time, or last time, rather, he'd be able to talk about him going to the main roster, especially because he hadn't won it recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so but yeah, I'm going with Joe Hendry to retain his belt.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, but so that's what you're going to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and maybe, maybe, how about this? Maybe some tna wrestlers may come out to hit make sure trick williams don't win, because they understand that if trick williams wins, they mean, he may not be on tna wrestler. He don't have to be on tna wrestling unless he has to be. So maybe some tna wrestlers come out to save joe hendry, because they don't want him to lose. They may not like him, but they Hendry, because they don't want him to lose.
Speaker 1:They may not like him, but they don't want Trick Williams to have it either, and also I'm saying it's not really like a prediction, but I think Trick Williams is going to go into a more heel-less side in this match. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, considering he kind of is the heel in this view. Yep, but yeah, that's what you're going to say. Yeah, that's it All right, for the next match on the card is Stephanie Valcaire versus Jordan Grace for the NXT Women's Championship. So using the same logic Wait, never mind, jordan Grace is NXT.
Speaker 2:She's NXT now four times. She's not in 10A anymore.
Speaker 1:Shoot. I can't use that logic anymore. So I might actually say Dre and Grace, but just to have a better chance at being right, I'm going to say Stephanie Valcarra-Taylor.
Speaker 2:You're going going. Stephanie, Yep man, this is a tough one because I like both of them. I mean Stephanie's probably my favorite too, Uh-huh. I mean she's probably my favorite NXT right now, and then probably Stephanie, then Soul Ruka, then Jada Parker is probably my top three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Jada Parker is probably my favorite person from NXT.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like she's came a long way since she first started. But Stephanie Vicaria, I watched her. I watched a few AAA, AAA wrestling events when she was in and I've been liking her since then. And then she came to AEW and then she was there for a little while, and then she was there for a little while and now she's in NXT right now. Yeah, so I'm a fan. I've been a fan for a while. But this is a tough match because it's Jordan Grace the Juggernaut. She is not a slouch one bit.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:So the problem is can Stephanie stop Jordan Grace from doing her moves on her? Because if she can't, she can't beat Jordan Grace.
Speaker 1:You don't think so.
Speaker 2:No, she can't stop her from doing her moves. If Jordan Grace gets her moves in, it's a wrap. There's not many women in wrestling period who can beat Jordan Grace if she gets all her moves in. You see what I'm saying? So you have to stop her from getting all her moves in. So Steph is going to slow her down, Kind of like you would a bigger. Kind of like you would. Kind of like you would if you were a fake. Oh, excuse me. Kind of how you would if you're a fake. Oh, excuse me. Kind of kind of how you would if you're facing a bigger wrestler and um in wwe. You know you don't want them to get their hands on you. You want to slow them down. You know you slow their momentum down and then you make it beat them yeah you know, kind of like a raven zero beat the big show.
Speaker 2:you know, like when you fight brock lesnar, when you fight different big guys, you know you don't, you don't want them to grab you, you want to kind of stay away from them yeah. You know you don't want them to get all their moves in. If they get all their moves in, you're done. You're going to lose.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like when Brock Lesnar's wrestling, or you know, big E or Mark Henry Big Show Paul White, whatever you want to call him. You know Biggie, or Mark Henry Big Show Paul White, whatever you want to call them. Jordan Grace, she's not a big wrestler, but she's a strong wrestler and she falls in that kind of category. She's probably one of the strongest women. I mean, she power lives, she did bodybuilding, so that's why she's called a juggernaut for a reason. I mean she can get that nickname for no reason, you know. I mean she's not that, she didn't get the nickname for no reason, you know. Mm-hmm, I mean. So If Stephanie can keep her from getting her moves in, she's going to win. So, and Stephanie being a veteran too, I think here's the thing this is a tough one, because Jordan Grace could easily win this match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:But she's already lost. Who do you go? With Stephanie see, that's the problem. I don't want to. I don't want to pick against Stephanie because she's my favorite wrestler, right now.
Speaker 2:I don't want to pick against her, but I just I just got a feeling Jordan Grace may win this. Now you know I'm going to stick with my wrestler. I'm going to go with Stephanie, for care, because she's a veteran. She's going to pull some moves out. She's a luchadora, she's a high flyer. Usually high flyers can do good against bigger wrestlers. Keep them off their feet, yep, you know, keep them grounded.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to go with Stephanie Fiqueira for the win, to retain her belt. That's what you're going to say for that yeah.
Speaker 2:But, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder. Here's the thing, though real quick off topic, not off topic, but Worlds Collide is next month, right?
Speaker 1:It's two weeks. Two weeks from now, right, it's when Money in the Bank is right. Yeah, it's June 7th, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2:June 7th, that's two weeks from now. Mm-hmm Jones said that's two weeks from now. I wonder if they're going to start incorporating AAA wrestlers, because this would be the perfect event to do it in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait this one, or Worlds Collide this one.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I'm saying this would be the perfect time to start the feud, for Worlds Collide.
Speaker 1:So you think someone comes out?
Speaker 2:This is where I think somebody might come out, and maybe not interfering in the match, but the post-match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there has been a lot of post-match.
Speaker 2:Because you got to think too. Stephen McHarris used to wrestle in AAA.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So she has a lot of enemies in AAA wrestling and she used to wrestle and she beat For belts, so I, so I'm sure they want their get back on her, and now she's a world champion or NXT champion. What better thing to do now than to beat her and wrestle her for a bill? And Stephanie Kerr she's going to be part of Wars Collide. I mean, everybody that was behind Triple H is going to be part of Wars Collide, outside of, maybe, rey Mysterio, because he's hurt, yeah, which sucks, because he's probably the most famous luchador in the entire world in history, probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he probably would have gone for like a big title, like that.
Speaker 2:Nah, he would have just been like one of the main events.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I mean, I mean, ray Mysterio is probably the most famous, most well-known wrestler luchador in history. Even if you don't know wrestling, you know the name Ray Mysterio. That's just one of those names that people just know. You know, like the Rock Stone Cold. You don't even got to be a wrestling fan to know those names.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of my friends that don't even watch wrestling can just name Ray Mysterio Exactly.
Speaker 2:So hopefully he's back by then, but the way that injury looked it doesn't look good that he's going back.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that was good. He may not even be back this year.
Speaker 2:The way it looks, Maybe he may come out and show up and make an appearance. It sucks that he's not going to be there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the injury looked gnarly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially when he was on the ground for the whole entire match. Didn't even try to get up. When they don't get up, that's how you know it's bad. When they don't even get up off the ground, don't even try to walk back to the back or anything. Yeah, but anyways. So yeah, stephanie Viqueira, I think she's going to retain Somebody's going to come match attacker and it's gonna start a few for world's collide, because they gotta start that up, because why not?
Speaker 2:yeah and then main rosters got called santos and all them. They just, they just announced they're arresting somebody I'll be surprised if somebody came on next smackdown and did that because I mean pagano we're getting off topic a little bit, but pagano, he's like the, the king of hardcore in uh mexico yeah then psycho clown, he's a good wrestler, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then uh, dr wagner him and him and uh santos already has a feud already spanning back years, so that should be good. They should already be good right there, just their history alone, yeah. But anyways, I digress, oh yeah go ahead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what you're going to say for that.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's it.
Speaker 1:All right, and for the main event, it's Oba Femi versus Miles Bourne for the NXT Championship.
Speaker 2:Little Randy Orton.
Speaker 1:Yep, but so like I mean, I don't mean to doubt Miles Bourne, but like it's Oba Femme, so like wait, is Oba Femme already beat the longest NXT ring?
Speaker 2:I don't know who had it.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It feels like it would be like Adam Cole or Finn Balor. It's Finn Balor. Right, was it Finn?
Speaker 2:Balor, it's Finn Balor right.
Speaker 1:Was it.
Speaker 2:Finn Balor yeah Cadeo.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Cadeo maybe Finn Balor maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't remember. Either way, I think Oba Femi's pretty close, so I think he's going to go for that. So I don't see him losing to Miles Bourne, especially Miles Bourne.
Speaker 2:Plus, you gotta remember what happened on NXT, when I can't think of the guy's name, the one who just won LFW.
Speaker 1:LFW.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that guy. I've seen him before, but I forgot his name I can't think of his name right now.
Speaker 2:I was looking at the highlight of it too, yeah he's probably going to wrestle Obaafemi. Yeah, or he's gonna come out and do something else in the match.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:So wait, wait.
Speaker 1:I think he comes out post-match though.
Speaker 2:Maybe post-match.
Speaker 1:Cause he has to wrestle Obafemi. He's about the size of Obafemi, anyways.
Speaker 2:Yup and Obafemi not gonna let that slot. If you attacked him and him laying on the ground like that, he was just flat. Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1:And especially because he was really good on LFG. If you watch LFG Exactly.
Speaker 2:He was really good, exactly, but yeah, so who you got for the win?
Speaker 1:Oh, I have Obafemi, obafemi Hands down, yeah. No comments toward Miles Bourne or anything well, yeah, he's been getting a lot better, but, um, it's not going to be a squash match. He's going to get a bunch of offense in.
Speaker 2:It's not going to be a squash match at all.
Speaker 1:No chances of a squash match yeah, they wouldn't do Miles Bourne like that but Miles Bourne, a great technical wrestler, I mean technically Miles Bourne could win this.
Speaker 2:No, but Miles Bourne, a great technical wrestler, I mean technically Miles Bourne could win this match. Hmm, I mean, we've seen crazier things happen, especially in NXT.
Speaker 1:Name something.
Speaker 2:Kevin Owens beating Sami Zayn in his first match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fair. I didn't know you were going to that day.
Speaker 2:Finn Balor debuting. You were doing Black and White. You ask me? I'm just saying Tommaso Ciampa attacking Johnny Gargano after the credits roll. I mean, we've seen, don't forget, you got Dark State. They're going to be there. Are they with somebody else or are they with theirself? I mean, we've seen crazier things happen in NXT before. We got TNA wrestlers in NXT wrestling. It wouldn't be a surprise. It wouldn't be a surprise. I wouldn't be surprised if Miles Bourne beat Ova Femi, especially the way they've been hyping him up.
Speaker 2:You know and it looks like he's gonna go on a solo run for a minute yeah, I mean especially with, uh, charlie dempsey, kind of being jealous of him wanting his role and all that yeah but, like I said, uh, I don't see him winning, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did win.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go over Femi. I like over Femi. Yeah, he's one of my favorites. He's one of my favorite guys Wrestles at NXT as well. So, yeah, I'm going to go over Femi winning. Retaining I just can't see Miles Bourne right now beating over Femi. He may be a future world champion, but not a champion right now beating over him.
Speaker 1:He may be a future world champion, but not a champion right now.
Speaker 2:Not right now Because he wrestles so much like Randy Orton. I mean he does almost everything similar to Randy Orton outside of the RKO. I mean he does a lot of moves, the way he walks, the way his wrestling style.
Speaker 1:I mean drop kicks. He does drop kicks, just like that.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying it looks so similar to Randy Orton, I wonder if he's doing it on purpose or it's just the way, just naturally how he is, you know. So I just wonder if it's just naturally how he is or if he actually watched Randy Orton to become more like Randy Orton, kind of like Kobe did with Jordan.
Speaker 1:If it's naturally. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Kobe watched so much Jordan film that he actually started playing like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I wonder if it's kind of like that where Miles Bourne watched so much Randy Orton that he just started wrestling like Randy Orton, or was it just naturally? That's just how he just naturally wrestles, I wonder you know. But however it is, he wrestles similar to Randy Orton.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, same walk, same demeanor. You know, I want to see them interact with each other at least once.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, on the main roster, or if Randy Orton comes back down to NXT like he did when he wrestled.
Speaker 1:Javon.
Speaker 2:Evans. But, like I said, he will be a future world champion, just not a champion right now. Just don't see it so but yeah, he's gonna be a world champion eventually, but just not right now. So I'm gonna go with Obafemi to retain. Maybe something happens post-match. I'm going to expect something to happen post-match. If nothing does happen, I'll be kind of disappointed and it's the main event, well, probably the main event. No, it will be the main event. When's it going to be the main event?
Speaker 1:Trick versus Joe.
Speaker 2:No On the NFC show.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Unless the NF NXT championship wasn't defended. That's no way that's going to headline over an NXT championship match. I guess, no way, near no way, but yeah. So I got Oprah Femme winning that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Anything else you got for her.
Speaker 1:Nope, that's it. Uh, yep.
Speaker 2:Alright, alright.
Speaker 1:Anything you want to Uh.
Speaker 2:yep, All right.
Speaker 1:All right, anyone else? Uh, hold on, hold on. Let me thoroughize this match real quick. You think Charlie Dempsey or any of them get involved?
Speaker 2:They may. Um, I think, okay, here's the thing. I think what's going to happen with that is. This is my thing. I think they're going to try to come out with him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, he's going to send him back, he's going to tell him to go back to the back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because he wants to do it on his own, mm-hmm, which is what the whole no quarter catch crew is for. Anyways, it's supposed to be like that. I think Charlie Dempsey's kind of got to take that disrespect like he don't want me out there, he's too good for me, which may end up breaking them up or get or, like you said before, getting miles born on a solar run get him to the group.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But don't know how that's going to work, but yeah that's it. Yeah, anything else Nope. All right. So, that being said, I'm Ben.
Speaker 1:I'm Beth.
Speaker 2:And the episode of Tag.