Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Welcome to the Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk, where two generations of wrestling fans come together to share their love for the sport in a unique father-son dynamic. Join hosts Ben and Bash as they dive into the exhilarating world of professional wrestling, offering insightful commentary, engaging discussions, and entertaining banter that will keep you on the edge of your seat.
Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Goldberg's Last Stand: Can The Icon Overcome Gunther?
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Ben and Bash break down the four matches announced for WWE's Saturday Night's Main Event, offering predictions and analysis for each bout on the card.
• LA Knight vs Seth Rollins: Bash predicts Rollins wins due to LA Knight's rib injury and lack of backup
• Randy Orton vs Drew McIntyre: Are split on this one, with Bash picking Drew and Ben choosing Randy, factoring in Jelly Roll's presence and potential Logan Paul involvement
• Solo Sikoa vs Jimmy Uso for the United States Championship: Both agree Solo retains with Bloodline assistance
• Goldberg vs Gunther for the World Heavyweight Championship: Unanimous prediction that Gunther defeats Goldberg in his retirement match
• Discussion about why Goldberg's retirement match didn't need a title on the line
• Brief comparison of the card to AEW All In happening the same day
Introduction to Benny Bash Podcast
Speaker 1Welcome to the Benny Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk. I'm Ben. I'm Bash. It's time to lace up your boots and hit them out with the Benny Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
LA Knight vs Seth Rollins
Speaker 2All right, here we are for another one. We are going to be doing Saturday night's main event. It's only four matches, I think. Yeah, unless they add a fifth one Just came from SmackDown, so they add a fifth one Just came from SmackDown, so they didn't add one in. So I don't know if they're going to add one tomorrow before the show or what, but let's get to it.
Speaker 1All right For the first match on the card. It's LA Knight versus Seth Rollins in a normal one-on-one match. So for this one, I mean like LA Knight has been getting the upper hand on Seth Rollins for like a couple weeks straight and Seth Rollins has backup too, though.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So I mean I feel like Seth Rollins has the advantage, but then that makes you want to go with LA Knights. So I'm going to say LA Knights going.
Speaker 2Yeah With LA Knight. So I'm going to say LA Knight's going yeah. I mean, after seeing what happened on SmackDown and them attacking LA Knight at the end, I don't see LA Knight beating Seth Rollins.
Speaker 1You don't.
Speaker 2No, I mean he's injured. I mean you don't see Braun Breaker speared him. Yeah, why do all? The people have to have rib injuries to lose. I mean because the tsunami does have to have rib injuries to lose. I mean because the tsunami, that's what tsunami does?
Speaker 1Yeah, but like everybody, always has a rib injury before they go into a match like this.
Speaker 2Yeah, but that's what tsunamis do. Tsunamis mess your ribs up. He's laying around your stomach.
Speaker 1Like the spear and tsunami combo is lethal.
Speaker 2Exactly so. Your ribs are going to be messed up when you have that combination right there back to back. And then, luckily, he only did one tsunami.
Speaker 1He didn't do more than one so you think Seth Rollins is going to win?
Speaker 2I think Seth Rollins is going to win, because who's going to help Elliot Knight out? I mean, you got Penta, and who's the other one that helped CM? Punk Sami Zayn, sami Zayn but Sami Zayn's hurt, because Karen Carl attacked him on Monday.
Speaker 1Uh, uh, so you got. Penta and CM Punk maybe not CM Punk, he's not gonna come not gonna help, he not gonna.
Speaker 2You don't think he's gonna help. La Knight beat Seth Rollins nope so, but yes, I mean he has no help. La Knight has no help right now, so it's a 3 on 1 or 3 on 2 if Penta comes out, but yeah, it's a three-on-one or a three-on-two if Penta comes out, but yeah. So that's why I got Seth Rollins winning that, because just the number advantage alone.
Speaker 1Oh, Jey Uso.
Speaker 2He could. He could come out and help, but he has no reason to come out and help.
Speaker 1He got beat up by Bronson Reed.
Speaker 2Yeah, I guess, I guess so.
Speaker 1And he isn't a few, as Seth Rollins would do.
Speaker 2Yeah, he could. I mean he could. It would give him a reason to be there, but who knows, he might not even be there, you know so.
Speaker 1But yeah, that's why I got Seth Rollins winning that one yeah. I have LA Nate.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And for the next match on the card is Randy Orton versus Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2And for this one I really don't know Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1You think Drew McIntyre? I was going to say Drew McIntyre. Yeah, I think Drew.
Speaker 2McIntyre is going to win this one. I mean just based on what we saw on SmackDown. I mean, I don't know, though I feel like they're going to win. I don't know, because then you got Jelly Roll and it's going to be in Randy Orton's corner, and I'm assuming that Logan Paul's going to be in Drew's corner.
Speaker 1No, he's going to come out, but he's not going to be in his corner. He's not going to be in his corner. He's going to come out, though. Okay, so that's what I think.
Speaker 2So Jelly for Smaker in that match though.
Speaker 1I mean they're going to book him like he is.
Speaker 2That's the problem. Randy could win that match, but Drew needs it.
Speaker 1Because I feel like they're telling that story, that Randy Orton is going to hesitate, but I feel like he's not going to hesitate with Drew McIntyre.
Speaker 2Yeah, not to say that's not what Drew did to him on SmackDown. Yeah, you know stuck up behind him and claymore'd him. You know what? I don't want to pick Randy Orton but the but you have Jelly Roll there yeah unless Logan Paul's a big enough influence in that match, I don't see. Who do you get? Yeah, drew McIntyre.
Speaker 1I kind of want to switch my answer, though. I'm going to go ahead. You can switch yours, I'm going to stick with.
Speaker 2I kind of want to switch my answer, though. Go ahead, you can switch yours. I'm going to stick with Drew. If you want to switch yours with Randy, no, no no, no no, you going to stick with Drew Yep.
Speaker 1I'll go with Randy then, just for You're going to land.
Speaker 2Yeah, we're going to. You can change, randy, then.
Speaker 1I don't want to.
Speaker 2So yeah, I'm going to go with Randy on that one, just because of the way he looked like on SmackDown or Jey Roll and all that. Unless Logan gets involved in the match, I'm going with Randy Orton on that one. You know Drew needs to win more.
Jimmy Uso vs Solo Sikoa
Speaker 1And for the second match on the card. Third match a solo Sakuya versus Jimmy Uso for the WWE United States Championship.
Speaker 2So is Jacob suspended or is he hurt?
Speaker 1I mean, why did?
Speaker 2Jimmy get a title shot.
Speaker 1Because he's been helping out Jacob, and he should get his title shot too.
Speaker 2That makes sense. That makes sense. I was just trying to figure out why he got a title shot, no storyline or anything.
Speaker 1I mean because he was helping out Jacob. Yeah, he was helping.
Speaker 2But then all of a sudden, I thought it would be a tag team match before a 96 championship match. I thought it would be Jacob and Jimmy versus Solo and whoever else. That's what it sounded like?
Speaker 1And why is Solo wrestling if he has people they can wrestle for?
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying. I thought it would be Jacob and Jimmy versus oh, but they did it last week, didn't they?
Speaker 1Yeah, tag team match, yeah it was Solo and JC, jc, yeah.
Speaker 2So I guess they don't need to do it again. Back-to-back Makes sense, though, so it makes sense. And then Jimmy Pant Solo last time too, right.
Speaker 1And also with JC.
Speaker 2So Jimmy Pant Solo in that match, didn't he no? Or does Solo win it?
Speaker 1They didn't win.
Speaker 2What happened? I can't remember what happened last week.
Speaker 1I know they got beat up, but I don't remember, I can't remember what happened.
Speaker 2Anyways, so Jimmy got a title match.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Who you got in that.
Speaker 1I have Solo as a goalie.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to go Solo as well. I don't see Jimmy beating him. It should be a good match Older brother versus younger brother but Solo got too much firepower around him to lose that match.
Speaker 1I mean and he just won the title too All the Tongans plus JC.
Speaker 2I mean, well, except for Tomatongo, we don't know about him. He's not. He went on. They got new shirts, they debuted down tonight and they didn't. They didn't have tomatongo on there and jacob posted something with tomatongo yeah, on, uh, ig, did you see that? No, yeah, it was jacob and it was jacob in the ring and then it was tomatongo in the ring with him. So I guess just jacob's maybe hitting that thomas with him.
Speaker 1I guess I'm assuming because that's what I had thought. Remember when I told you I thought thomas was gonna split up or he's still hurt right now.
Goldberg vs Gunther Retirement Match
Speaker 2So he can't come back right now anyway. So they have to move on without him for right now, but it could make him mad or whatever when he does come back. But for right now, yeah, I got Solo winning that match pretty easy Not easy, but with the help of everybody else around him. But for the main event Saturday Night Main Event the main event, the reason, pretty much the reason why they're in Atlanta yeah, it's Goldberg versus Gunther for the World Heavyweight Championship, and this is supposed to be Goldberg's retirement match we talked about this earlier on a video.
Speaker 2We did, but I mean, you didn't need the world title online for this match. You could have had a one-on-one match, goldberg retiring match and he could have won the match.
Speaker 1I feel like, hold on. I feel like, like hasn't all of his matches recently been his?
Speaker 2retirement match Not officially. This is officially his retirement match.
Speaker 1He has been for a title all recently. He hasn't just had normal matches.
Speaker 2That's what I'm saying so you could have had Goldberg versus Gunther because the storyline was already there from last year at Bad Butt when he was talking about his son and Goldberg being a bad wrestler and all that kind of stuff. So he could have easily had that be the storyline with no title involved and had and people and think that gobert got a chance.
Speaker 2but with a title online there's no way gobert beats going through yeah he's not retired with the bill, unless he's not retired unless he changed, unless he wins the bill and changes his mind and have one or two months up into summer slam, because summer slam is next month. Yeah, so he could do a. He could beat Gunther, win the belt.
Speaker 1And then, like, my thing is like if he loses to Gunther, he's just going to wrestle him again.
Speaker 2No, this is it. If he loses, he's done.
Speaker 1Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2If he wins, of course if he wins, he's going to retire. He's going to have a championship run.
Speaker 1Of course, if he wins he's not retiring, he's going to have a championship win.
Speaker 2I'm saying if he wins he's just going to face Gunther again and lose At SummerSlam More likely. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, because right now we know that Cody's wrestling John Cena because he won the King of the Ring, but nobody's wrestling Gunther or whoever wins between him and Goldberg right now.
Speaker 1Yeah, but who do you got winning that?
Speaker 2match I have not there. Me too, I like, I like Goldberg. I mean I saw him when he first started in WCW. So I've been, I was a Goldberg fan, I'm still a Goldberg fan, but at a certain time, you know, you just got to wrap it up and hopefully this is this is his last match. I mean you don't want to see, as you looked up, to lose a step. You want them to leave when they still have a little bit left in the tank. You don't want them to leave when the tank's been empty.
Speaker 1Is it empty now?
Speaker 2It's close. The Undertaker match basically showed that it was pretty much empty.
Speaker 1He dropped Undertaker on his neck.
Speaker 2Yeah, almost messed him up big time and so, yeah, and then he had to break wide and all those matches.
Speaker 1He won a lot more matches than he should have.
Speaker 2Yeah, but not to talk bad about him. He is a legend, hall of Famer, and all that.
Speaker 1Wait, he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh yeah. He's a Hall of Famer. He should be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1I didn't know that.
Speaker 2Yeah, if he's not a Hall of Famer, I'm pretty sure he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1Oh, I don't remember that.
Speaker 2But anyway, I got going through winning that. I just don't see Goldberg beating him. If he does beat him, he's not retiring, he's going to have a title run.
Speaker 1I don't see him not retiring. I think he's actually serious about that, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2So I got going through winning that against Goldberg.
Speaker 1Mm.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I mean, I guess there's not a fifth match to the card.
Speaker 2No, unless they change something up before the show comes on.
Speaker 1It's a very short pay-per-view.
Speaker 2Yeah, pretty simple, straight to it. I mean they are competing against AEW, so we're going to do that next. They are competing against AEW all-in. So I mean you really can't do too much because that's not really a competition, because AEW all-in is stacked from top to bottom with matches.
Speaker 1It's going to end way too early to compete with All In. Anyways, their main event is going to be like two hours after this ends.
Speaker 2Yeah, but yeah. So anyway, you got anything else with this one.
Speaker 1Nope, that's it.
Speaker 2Alright, so I'm Ben, I'm.
Speaker 1Bash.
Speaker 2And this.