Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Welcome to the Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk, where two generations of wrestling fans come together to share their love for the sport in a unique father-son dynamic. Join hosts Ben and Bash as they dive into the exhilarating world of professional wrestling, offering insightful commentary, engaging discussions, and entertaining banter that will keep you on the edge of your seat.
Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Title Battles and Texas Death: Breaking Down AEW's Biggest Card
We break down every match on AEW's massive All In card in Dallas, analyzing each championship bout and special stipulation across the 11-match lineup.
• FTR expected to defeat The Outrunners on the pre-show despite recent beatdowns
• Don Callis Family predicted to win eight-man tag to get back on track after recent slump
• Ricochet picked to win Men's Casino Gauntlet Match for a world title opportunity
• Split prediction on Okada vs Omega championship unification match
• Athena favored to win Women's Casino Gauntlet after being left off one-on-one matches
• Swerve and Ospreay expected to defeat Young Bucks in high-stakes EVP status match
• Kyle Fletcher predicted to dethrone Adam Cole for TNT Championship
• Mixed predictions for triple threat tag team championship match
• The Ops favored to retain trios titles against Death Riders
• Timeless Toni Storm expected to retain against Mercedes Moné despite her belt collection
• Hangman Page predicted to defeat Jon Moxley in brutal Texas Death main event
Welcome to the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2:I'm Ben.
Speaker 1:I'm Bash. I tell them to lift up your boots and hit them out with the Ben and Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2:All right, here we are for another one. This time we are going to be doing AW. All In, it is that card. Was it 11 matches on the card? Yeah, it was the pre-show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, two pre-show matches Was it.
Speaker 2:11 matches on the card yeah, if you have the pre-show. Yeah, two pre-show matches, nine main card matches, at least four hours. It's going to be a good weekend of wrestling right here. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1:The pre-show is FTR versus the Outrunners. For this one I'll probably say I don't know, honestly, but I would probably say I mean FDR has been beating down the Outrunners recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So they might, I don't know. I feel like the Outrunners need this because they've been getting beat down by FTR recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but FTR is FTR.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Still one of the best tag teams in the world.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to go with FTR.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to have to go FTR too on that one. I just don't see the Outrunners beating them. I mean they can, but I just don't see the FTR losing right now. I just don't see them losing right now. But I don't know why they got him on the pre-show. That's a stacked card for FTR to be on the pre-show, yeah, but yeah, FTR for the first one for the pre-show.
Speaker 1:In the second match on the pre-show, it's Big Boom AJ, the conglomeration uh versus the don callas family and eight man tag team match, and for this one it's probably gonna be a good match. Um, I mean, I don't really know that much about big boom aj. I mean I know he's on youtube and stuff, but I don't really know about his wrestling. So I mean, I know about about almost everybody else in this match, but I would probably have to say Big Boom AJ and the Clubglomeration no, honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know either.
Speaker 1:I would probably say Big Boom AJ's team.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's a hard one, because you said Big AJ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big Boom AJ, big Boom AJ. That's what I think his name is anyways.
Speaker 2:That's the wrestler and all them guys. Yeah, your favorite guy.
Speaker 1:What? I don't even know them like that, no brain ways.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so big boom, aj. Or or Don Callis, don't call us from these a win, really yeah, they've been a huge slump, except for Kyle Fletcher yeah yeah, he's the one had me on me on the slot. Really, yeah, I'm going to go with Don Cowell's family to win this one.
Speaker 1:I mean, they do need it.
Speaker 2:They need to win way more in order to get back on track with what they're doing. So, yeah, I'm going to go with Don Cowell's family. Because I feel like every week yeah so I'm going to go with Don Counts Family on that one.
Speaker 1:Alright, and I learned about this one a little bit more earlier. It's the Men's Casino Gauntlet Match for AEW World Championship match, and this one I mean. If you want to explain it, you can.
Speaker 2:It's just a gauntlet match where it doesn't matter. I think it's 21 people, I think 2021 people, something like that in there and basically the winner is whoever gets pinfall or submission first. So it can be the first two guys, it can be number 20, it can be who in the match. As soon as the matches ends, you know you might have 21 people scheduled to be in the match. The match can answer five people. Whoever gets the first pinfall match is over with. So it's you might have 21 people scheduled to be in the match. The match can end to five people. Whoever gets the first man fall match is over with.
Speaker 2:So it's one of the matches where you want to be one of the first ones in. It's not like a normal Battle Royal or Warrior Rumble in WWE-wise where you come in a little later and you got a better chance of winning because you're not in the match for a whole hour. But this one you kind of want to be one of the first guys to get opportunity to pin or submit somebody before everybody else comes in. And this one's kind of different too because they come in at interval times, so their different times are not always like a set period, like Royal Rumbles are, or other kind of battle royals like that, where they come in at a certain set time. This one's random, so it could be 30 seconds, could be 3 minutes, could be 5 minutes, whatever.
Speaker 1:But yeah, seconds could be three minutes, could be five minutes, whatever, but but yeah so, but yeah. So, as far as I know, mark briscoe and mjf are the first two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and someone else right, or I think they're the first two far so I know. I'm not sure if anybody else, I don't ever.
Speaker 1:I think they're the first two though so this one I was gonna say mjf because I don't really know who's going to be in there, but honestly, I'm going to go with Ricochet.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1:She said that I was thinking about Ricochet at first, but now she said it Because I was just processing this, because it was so unpredictable. I saw Dynamite this past week and I thought Ricochet was going to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ricochet does. I think Ricochet was going to win. Yeah, ricochet does. I think Ricochet wants a world title shot, which I like him to have one. He's been doing some great work in AEW AEW's letting him use his personality that WWE never let him do, so he's able to use his real personality. I think it's real personality. He's good at it. Some of it's part of his personality so he's able to it. So I'm assuming it's part of what, some of it's part of what he his personality, so he's able to do that. And you know Ricochet is a good one man, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:I mean, I just didn't know if anybody else except Mark Briscoe MJF.
Speaker 2:I mean it could be anybody, cause it's a battle royale 21 guys. So I could give it yeah, rico, 21 guys. Ricochet, I'm going to go with you on that one. I'm just going to say Ricochet on that one too, just to put it out there in the air and say Ricochet's going to win Casino Man's Battle Royal.
Speaker 1:And the next match.
Speaker 2:That's what you're going to say yeah, that's it on that one.
Speaker 1:And the next match on the card is Kajuk. I cannot pronounce his name.
Speaker 2:Okada.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okada. Versus Client Nanto champion pronounce his name Okada. Yeah, okada. Versus a continental champion, versus Kenny Omega, who's the international champion. Is it called the Unified Championship? That's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2:I mean that's what it is. I mean that's what we got to deal with. It's the AEW Unified Championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of a bland name.
Speaker 2:It's like their second world title pretty much.
Speaker 1:I mean like I know they can't do it, but Intercontinental is right there.
Speaker 2:No, because that International I know what you're saying but they, they want this to be more like the second world title it is.
Speaker 1:That's what they want it to be the unified champion.
Speaker 2:Aew unified champion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like mid-card for Ms Margaret mid-card like universal undisputed champion AEW.
Speaker 2:They want that to be Like the second, like you got the World.
Speaker 1:Champion.
Speaker 2:AEW World Champion, and now you also have the AEW Unified Champion, which sounds like A World Champion.
Speaker 1:The mid-card Plus the mid-card Does equal.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's what I'm saying. So they wanted to Make that into one Big belt, a bigger belt.
Speaker 1:The belt kind of Looks, weird, though it looks like Looks like an egg.
Speaker 2:Yeah, instead of having three what you call mid-card, international, continental, and then the TNT.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You just have one TNT champion and then boom, those are going to create one bigger championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes more sense anyways, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:And then Kenny Omega and Okada are two guys that could easily hold that belt and make it mean something to whoever wins that match.
Speaker 1:Okada. How long has he been Continental Champion?
Speaker 2:For a long time.
Speaker 1:And he's like, barely like a lot. Has he ever lost in Continental Classic?
Speaker 2:I don't think so. If he did, he would lose his belt.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think he ever did, unless he lost the first one he was, in which I can't remember if he did that or not. He might have won the first one.
Speaker 1:That's what I was thinking, but I can't remember. Well, the first one he was in at least that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:The first one he was in, but anyways.
Speaker 1:I mean, okada's just been on such a streak and Kenny Omega finally has backup. But like I don't know, I feel like Kenny Omega would win this match, but I mean it's Okada, so you'd never know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, it's Okada, so you'd never know which is a problem.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to go? No, I'm going to go Okada. No, I don't know. Honestly, I'm going to go Okada. You're going to go Okada?
Speaker 2:no, I don't know, honestly, I'm going to go Okada you can't get wrong with either one of these guys, man. These two guys are two of the best in the world, actually hold on, I'm going to do everything my choice, actually.
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to stick with Okada.
Speaker 2:Okada is a good one too. That is a good one too. That is a good one. I don't want to pick the same one you picked again, so I'm going to go with Kenny Omega.
Speaker 1:I mean either one of them. That's what I'm saying Either one is a great pick.
Speaker 2:You can't go wrong with either one. I mean, both of them are guaranteed to hold that belt to a higher prestige and make it feel like a world championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. Either one of those guys are great choices for it, but I'm going to go Kenny Omega just because she picked Okada. And for the women's, that's what you're going to say for that one yeah, I said it. On that, all right.
Speaker 2:And next on the card is that should be well. It should be one of the matches of the night.
Speaker 1:I think it will be.
Speaker 2:It's hard to say because there's 11 matches on here, but that could easily well be a match of the night. Oh yeah, those are two great performances, if not one of the matches of the year because them two guys get in.
Speaker 1:They always have one Like a wrestling period or just an AEW.
Speaker 2:A wrestling period. Yeah yeah, that's all. That's it, now, that's it.
Speaker 1:But the next on the card is the Women's Cas casino gauntlet match for AEW Women's World Championship match. And this one, I mean the men's casino gauntlet. I was not certain, but I thought it was going to be Ricochet. I mean, I think it's going to be Ricochet, but for this one I just really don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean like I'm going to tell you right now who's going to win it. Oh yeah, you said I've been saying it for how long, athena? How long have I been saying that?
Speaker 1:I might want to say Athena, just so like, because I just don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 2:I've been saying Athena since I realized she did what she was and getting a one-on-one match.
Speaker 1:If not Athena, I don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 2:Because I said, ever since I saw she wasn't getting a one-on-one match at All In. I mean she's a ring on a female women's world champion. Yeah, why is she not wrestling in a one-on-one match in her hometown? I mean, you got nine matches.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You could have made it 10 even, and then just put her in there.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're here to wrestle with, though.
Speaker 2:Even if it was a throwaway. You could put her in anybody. It could have been a throwaway match where she just goes in and beat them down and wins, or there and beat them down and win, or it could have been a drag out fight like the other women's match is going to be. I mean, wrestling is the only one women's match out here Besides the women's match. Oh yeah, you got 13 matches and only two women's matches.
Speaker 1:Dang, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Exactly so you could easily have Athena wrestle I guess anybody in AEW Ring of Honor independent wrestling. You had multiple options on that.
Speaker 1:But like.
Speaker 2:But with her being in the Battle Royal, I'm going to pick her for the Kusuma Battle Royal to win that and get a title shot.
Speaker 1:I might have to pick Athena. But I don't want to steal your pick, but I just don't know who's going to win.
Speaker 2:I mean you got Chris Statlander in there, you got Megan Bain, probably Todd, Conte and I mean you got Chris Statlander in there, you got Megan Bain, probably Todd. Conte and you know all of them, so it's going to be a lot of women in that match, Some from AEW.
Speaker 1:Is Willow Nightingale, you think.
Speaker 2:She'll probably be in there. Either that or she'll be in the have Something To Do With the Gentleman Oxy match.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she probably will, but you think she's going'll be in the House of Dutra-Germosy match. Yeah, she probably will. But you think she's going to be in this. She should, because if she does, I don't want to pick somebody who's just completely not going to be in the match.
Speaker 2:You don't know who's going to be in the match.
Speaker 1:It's a problem, because if I pick someone who's just not in the match, I have a 0% chance of winning you have 0% chance anyway, because she don't know who's going to be in the match.
Speaker 2:Anyways, it could be anybody.
Speaker 1:I mean right now, I mean I mean, I really don't want to steal your pick that's fine so.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know who else I stole yours for Ricochet, so it's fine yeah, I'm going to say Athena for that one too, because I just don't know.
Speaker 1:I think it's either Athena or Will and Nightingale, and I don't even know if Will and Nightingale is going to be in the match yeah, sometimes she won't be in that match.
Speaker 2:I'm sure she'll have something to do with the John Mossley match, but if she won't be in this match, I have no idea either and for the next match on the card.
Speaker 1:You remember that yeah, that's it. Next match on the card is swerve trickling and will osprey versus the young bucks. And if osprey and swerve lose, they can't challenge for um a world title, which I don't see happening.
Speaker 2:But I'll get into that in a second well, osprey could easily challenge for a title, but he can't. For a whole year. It's a whole.
Speaker 1:It's a whole year and if the young bucks lose, they lose their um status as the evps which is a big deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean they have to be regular wrestlers.
Speaker 1:They won't have any any forward and say so already and that means that swerve and osprey right are the EVPs.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's just me. I don't know. That's what it sounded like at first, but then they haven't really talked about that much.
Speaker 1:They first said the EVPs will be Swerve and Ospreay, and then they haven't talked about that, since that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Then next thing you know, you have the Will, ospreay and Swerve not challenging for a title for a year. Swerve not challenging for a title for a year.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So maybe they changed that out. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I can't remember for sure, but like. So I really don't see Swerve and Ospreay not challenging for an entire year.
Speaker 2:They could, because I mean Cody. When Cody was in AEW, he did the same thing for the TNT championship or it was already the world championship. He lost and couldn't challenge him. That's why he went for a TNT championship. He couldn't hear, he lost the match.
Speaker 1:But I don't see Swerve or Ospreay goingprey, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It happened with Cody when Cody I think it was, it might have been MJF, I guess I can't remember exactly. It might have been MJF, that's how it sounds. Like he lost a match and couldn't challenge for that title as long as that person had the belt.
Speaker 1:MJF had the belt.
Speaker 2:I think I want to say MJF, it might have been. Somebody else had it, and so he went to the TNT championship instead. So what do you got?
Speaker 1:I have Swerve and Will Ospreay.
Speaker 2:That's a good one.
Speaker 1:Because I just don't see the Young Bucks winning.
Speaker 2:They can cheat though. Yeah, they can cheat and win, which is their loophole, though aw world championship. Isn't that about tnt, then about unified yeah? That's enough about tag team. You can go out to any other bill except for the world, the one moxie has I, I just don't see it all right, it's happened before and it went to other belts yeah but yeah, it's hard especially when it's two people and looks like I mean like there's mean guys in the company yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:It's hard to, it's hard to say. I see moxley and I'm obviously, uh, swerve and osprey losing to the young bucks. I'm, I don't want to agree with you on this one again, but yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go osprey and swerve to win this one too as well, just because I don't see them, like you said, not challenging for the belt for a year, but they can because there's other belts on the line and it's kind of. I think a lot of people are tired of the young boats.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not tired of wrestling, but tired of them being EVPs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like their characters get in a little too much.
Speaker 2:But not that part, but just them pushing their weight around.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like doing stuff they can because they're EVPs, like if they lose that title they have to be regular wrestlers. Now they don't have any pull anymore to do what they want to do.
Speaker 1:Like they can't just make a match in two seconds Exactly.
Speaker 2:They can't just make a match or add stipulations or not, you know.
Speaker 1:Or just insert themselves and attack them.
Speaker 2:They can't just do that.
Speaker 1:So if they lose that AVP right, it'll be back to being regular wrestlers, which will help out their character building even more so because they have the other thing not having control anymore and that's what you're going to say and the next you fixed Swerve and Ospreay and for the next match on the card it's Adam Cole versus Kyle Fletcher for the TNT Championship or AEW TNT Championship, and for this one I feel like it could go either way, but the Don Callis family, like you said earlier, needs a little bit of a push. So I'm saying Kyle Fletcher.
Speaker 2:Not to talk bad about Adam Cole, but I feel like he had the TNT Championship. Yeah, me too. I feel like he had it forNT Championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2:I forgot he had it for a minute until we were talking about getting ready to do this.
Speaker 1:I thought he lost to somebody.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I forgot he even had it, because I remember last show we were talking about I was talking about me I said Adam Cole, he's a winner. Because he hadn't won in a while, I didn't realize he had the title. I mean not saying that he doesn't deserve it because he's a great wrestler, but it doesn't say they've done much with him, like yeah, I haven't even seen the title in a long time.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Don't say they've been doing much with him, though, so for that case I think he'll do better chasing the title Mm-hmm, Kyle Fletcher win it and having Adam Cole chase after it would be a better option, I think, than him holding on to it right now.
Speaker 1:At least for right now.
Speaker 2:anyways, that would give Kyle's family a good bit of good momentum going forward for right now.
Speaker 1:They definitely need it. So you say Kyle Fletcher. I think, Kyle Fletcher winning that. I'd said Kyle Fletcher. I think Kyle Fletcher won that. I said Kyle Fletcher too. And so the next match on the card it's a three-way tag team match for the AEW World Tag Team Championships, and it's the Hertz Syndicate versus Jet Speed, versus the Patriarchy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's Christian Cage and Nick Wayne.
Speaker 1:So for this one I really want to say the Hurst Syndicate, because I really like the Hurst Syndicate.
Speaker 2:It's a triple threat match though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't have to pin them to win. So Christian Cage can pin somebody from Jet Stream.
Speaker 1:Or was it Jet Speed, jet sorry, just be like, hold on, like I feel like there's always just like that thing. When, like the champions get like beat down before their title match, they always win yeah, exactly, but but I don't know if that's the case, because it's a big show.
Speaker 2:Anything can happen that's what I'm saying. And then, like I said, it's a big show, anything can happen. That's what I'm saying. And then, like I said, it's a triple threat match, so anybody can pin anybody. So Jetspeed can pin the Patriarchy and Hurston can lose, or vice versa Hurston can lose. Hurston does not have to be involved in the finale to lose their titles, yeah, which is why they could easily lose the match.
Speaker 1:So who do you got winning on this one? I want to say Hurston and Kidd, but I feel like Jetsby is going to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to go with the eyeball here, I'm going to go with the Patriarchy, because Christian Cage has been doing some. Like I said earlier, christian Cage and Nick Wayne and Mama Wayne, they've been doing some good heel work. You know, then, the whole thing between Nick Wayne and Christian Cage kind of going back and forth for a minute. Is he going to turn, is he not going to turn, type of thing too. So, yeah, I got the patriarchy winning this, probably Mama Wayne or somebody helping out.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go with the heart syndicate to retain.
Speaker 2:That's a good one too. I just don't think they're going to be involved in the win. I think the patriarchy is going to pin Chet's feet. I think you know.
Speaker 1:So, and that's what you're going to say- that's it for that. All right, and for the next match on the card, it's the Ops, which consists of Shobata, powerhouse Hobbs and Samoa Joe versus the Death Riders, which is Claudio Castanoli and Willa Uter and Gabe Kidd, which I'm not very familiar with. Gabe Kidd, he's a big time I've seen him before.
Speaker 2:He's a big time independent, or was independent. Right, he's an AW now, but he was a big time. He's like the hottest free agent, as they call it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But he was literally the hottest free agent in wrestling period and he went to AW, which I think that fits more of his style. Anyways, for right now, anyways, he could, he could, you know, change and work his way into it, kind of like, um, I was gonna say, uh, mirame, uh, what's her name?
Speaker 2:blake blake monroe, yeah, blake monroe I'll say mirame, like like she did. She came to aw. Aw was her before she. She got there, she grew there and now she, then she, now she's in WWE. I think Gabe Kidd can do something similar. He comes to AEW, learns to rope from veterans like Mox and Claudio and guys like that, and he can use that to use it to go to NXT, just like Blake Monroe did. She hit Thomas, toney, thunder, rosa, all the veterans that she was feuding with, you know, mina, jura, cara, all the people like that and then she used that to get herself better at it and eventually went to NXT. And I think KK can do the same thing. He's actually a pretty good wrestler. I mean, he's actually a pretty good wrestler. I think people he I mean he's a, he's a sometimes people don't like him, but kept nice wrestling skills yeah you know he's like the aw version of logan paul.
Speaker 2:You know I mean people just don't like them it's that bad not as bad cause. Logan paul had a reputation before yeah wrestling, but people didn't like them before they got kids. It's just you know.
Speaker 1:It's just a wrestling character.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:People just really hate Logan Ball People really hate him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but um, I don't, I don't, I don't want to see the deaf writers hold any titles for a time.
Speaker 2:Nah, I don't either.
Speaker 1:Like, like, I think, I think the run is just over. I think it's just done. Yeah, and the opposite of the champions, right? Yeah, I think it's. I don't want to see a difference.
Speaker 2:Unless unless Pat comes back. You know he's been out he's, I mean like all this stuff could happen, but I just me personally I don't want to see the Deathriders hold a championship and then if nobody interferes with Maureen Shafir, then Jeffries is going to win, unless Willow comes out or somebody else comes out and helps the Ops out.
Speaker 1:The Ops are in trouble but like think about this team though like Samoa Joe and Powerhouse Hobbs alone, and then you add Shibata right there but then Deathrise are a world old machine though, so you add them together, you know yeah, but I'm going to say the Ops 2 routine yeah, I don't want to see Deathrise have another title, especially with Jon Moxley having the world title right now.
Speaker 2:But, like I said, unless Willow or somebody interferes in that match, the ops have nobody to really stop her yeah you know, I can't remember if a trio match is disqualification or not, though I can't remember it is, I can't remember if a trio match is disqualification or not, though I can't remember it is. I can't remember if it's no qualification or not. I can't remember.
Speaker 1:I think it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't remember, though, how the AEW rules are, but I like Powerhouse House. He's one of my favorites in wrestling period Same. So I don't want to see him lose. Yeah, I'm going to go with Powerhouse Oz. I want to see him get another, win, another title and get a title and, you know, hold on to it and actually be able to defend it, and all that.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, because when was the last time he had a title?
Speaker 2:Did he ever have a title in the AEW?
Speaker 1:He had the world title once, didn't he like?
Speaker 2:He had a world title Was that?
Speaker 1:him or Warlord that had that thing.
Speaker 2:Neither one of them won a world or didn't win a world title.
Speaker 1:Oh, but I remember I think it was either Powerhouse Hobbs or Warlord that had the little golden thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like one of the big briefcase.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the golden ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the golden ring or the brass ring, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the brass ring. You should tell wrestlers reach for the brass ring. Yeah, it's the brass ring. You should tell wrestlers reach for the brass ring. So AEW took that and kind of made it Not a joke, but they made a match out of it.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, it's a letter match too right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, reaching for the brass ring.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's what I'm going to say, yeah yeah, me too.
Speaker 2:I think that's. It's hard for me to go against Powerhouse Hobbs because he's one of my favorites, but yeah, I'm going to go with Powerhouse Hobbs and the Hobbs to win against Claudio and Death Riders alright, and for the co-main event, it's Timeless Tony Stone versus Mercedes Monet for the AEW Women's World Championship, which is another match that could easily be match of the night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, easily.
Speaker 2:But these two veterans, I mean two of the best women in wrestling period, whether it's AEW, wwe, ring of Honor, whatever name you want to call, you can't put really a top five. I'd say top ten is the absolute worst. You can't put top ten wrestlers, or I'll say, top ten at the absolute worst. You can't put a top ten of wrestlers right now without these two in there. I mean Mercedes has all the belts. Thomas Toney's doing her best work. She's probably the best female, if not the best character period in wrestling going right now I completely forgot something you just brought back to me.
Speaker 1:I mean, like Mercedes, I love Mercedes, but seven belts though.
Speaker 2:She's the belt collector, Like Tony Storm said, if you watch the Dynamite she said you deserve all the belts, but you're not getting this one. Basically, yeah. You're not going to win this one from me, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say I don't see Timeless Tony Storm retaining. Uh, I don't see timeless 20 storm retaining, but I don't see Mercedes winning gotta pick one though my back is against the wall here. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say timeless, no, no, mercedes, mercedes.
Speaker 2:I was gonna pick Thomas.
Speaker 1:Anyways, a lot unless you picked her like.
Speaker 2:No, no, mercedes, Mercedes. You're going Mercedes with me? Yeah, mercedes, but you're going to say I was going to pick Thomas anyways a lot. Unless you picked her quick, thomas Toney, I think, is going to win, or that's who I think is going to win anyways. Like I said, she's been doing her best work recently with the whole Thomas character. I mean she's been doing her best work. Then she's the whole fake thing with Mariah May, where she acts like she's back to the old Toni Storm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she wasn't.
Speaker 2:And then she's back to timeless, and that's how I said it. That timeless character is probably one of the best characters going by far in pro wrestling. I mean Blake Monroe's character even came but she hadn't even started yet, she hadn't matched yet, but she hasn't had a match yet. Her first match was Jordan Grace oh Tag team match. But yeah, I mean, so you can't even. There's nobody. I can't even think about anybody who has a better character than Thomas Tony right now in any professional wrestling really.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't watch all of them, obviously, but the ones I have watched. I don't see anybody else even coming close to what she's been doing these last couple years with that Thomas character. So I'm going to go with Thomas Tony to retain and keep the belt moving, because Mercedes is a team. She's a TBS champion already.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she is.
Speaker 2:So she's already the women's TBS champion in awc, the world championships.
Speaker 1:I'm on top of that um and well, my prediction a couple months ago. I'm completely wrong. Actually, I think I'm more wrong than right, like I'm way more wrong and wrong than right. I I said that mercedes was gonna lose all her belts and then and then lose in this match she had lost no belts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got a couple belts. I think, she's won one or two belts since she said that.
Speaker 1:I thought the route was going to be she was going to lose all her belts and then win this, so she could just have one big belt instead of seven little small belts Not like saying small belts yeah, smaller organizations, smaller companies. Yeah, but that's all you're going to say for that one. Yeah, tell me about Tony. Yeah, I said, I said there's not much I can say about Tony Storm I mean really.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, you watch her work, you know what she does. I mean, she's one of the best characters, the best you know. Like her perfect in AEW. Yeah, because they were able to do let their personality go.
Speaker 1:And both of those people had like, like, probably like the worst characters in WWE. Ricochet didn't even have a character, he was just the guy who could do flips.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Now he has a personality and they go along with it now. Yeah so yeah, Um yeah.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's what you're going to say that's it and for the main event is John Moxie versus Hangman on a Page in a Texas death match for the AW Man's World Championship and this one.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever seen a Texas death match. Right, you've seen it before.
Speaker 1:I have, yeah, texas Deathmatch right, I have, wasn't it Hangman, and John Moxley too?
Speaker 2:Or Swerve. It might have been Moxley and Hangman.
Speaker 1:I feel like those are like the. It was either them or it was Swerve and Hangman Page. I feel like those are the best two people, because Moxley's extreme and it's gonna be a lot of goriness in it. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:If you don't—if you got a weak stomach don't even watch it, because it's going to be a lot of stuff going on in this match. I mean, it's probably going to be thumbtacks, probably be some skewers.
Speaker 1:What is that?
Speaker 2:The stuff you put the vegetables, the stuff you put on the grill. Yeah, what is that? The stuff you put the vegetables, the stuff you put on the grill no they put them out of the ashtray at all, then they did. John Monsi got his head speared. Had a whole head full of them sitting on top of his head stuck in his head.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure I want to watch this wait a minute wasn't that Penta that that did that I?
Speaker 2:think it was yeah, because the little sticks thing. It is, yeah. So like it was like in his head too. That's what I'm saying. It's going to be like that again, probably it's going to be like that again, and he was bald, so like it's it's.
Speaker 1:But like these are the best two people to do a Texas Deathmatch how?
Speaker 2:far.
Speaker 1:John, not John Cena. John Moxley is like an extreme guy and Hangman and the PH is a cowboy character.
Speaker 2:And he wants the title. By any means. Yeah, hangman, does he can't? He wants that title. I mean, look what he did to Swerve Mm-hmm. And that wasn't even for the title.
Speaker 1:That was.
Speaker 2:So imagine what he can do. Imagine what he wants to do to Jon Moxley for the title. Yeah, who do you got winning that?
Speaker 1:I got Ian Rand.
Speaker 2:I don't want to see Jon Moxley's ring going I know I mean Jon Moxley needs to lose because he needs to find something else. He needs to find something, a reason to keep doing what he's doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So I don't want to agree with you again. But yeah, I got Adam Page as well to give Mox a reset on what he's doing so that we can get refocused on everything, Just like the Death Riders would be refocused on everything Go back to the drawing board and try to figure out what to do next. So I got them winning on this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised I got Heyman winning. I'm surprised Marina Shafir doesn't have a match right here.
Speaker 2:She might be in the Battle Royal Casino. Battle Royal.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, right the.
Speaker 2:Gauntlet, rather Mm-hmm, the Casino Gauntlet Battle Royal. She might be in that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, mm-hmm, I feel like, hey man, the page has this.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure, I think so, anyways, but Anything else you want to add To this card. It's a pretty stacked card. It's 13 matches, 11 or 13, 11 matches, 11 matches. Yeah, 9 on the main card, at least 2 on the pre-show, and I mean AEW's been putting on Some good matches too, and these are, like I said, you got at least two candidates for match of the year.
Speaker 1:You think it's going to go for four hours.
Speaker 2:At least four hours.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to go for five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least four hours. So it starts at 3, 3 Eastern or further, which is what 1 o'clock in Texas.
Speaker 1:It is. It's going to be like two or three hours behind. It's pretty early.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's either 12 or 1 there, because they're either two or three hours behind the camera off the top of their head, but they're two or three hours behind.
Speaker 1:We're going to have to watch it super early, we're going to have to wake up early and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, just watch it early. Yeah, pretty much, because it'll come on pretty much. You got you have NXT come on at noon. It's Eastern time, so NXT comes on at noon, it's Eastern Time, so, and it's, he comes on a no easier time. So NXT's gonna know and if he comes on a, no, she's only like two, two and a half hours, no more than three yeah so how was NXT can be longer than a. Wwe, because this is the main, isn't? It's a? It's regular TV.
Speaker 1:I like Saturday's main event, but I hate the concert because I saw a regular TV. It's not. Yeah, it's regular TV. I like Saturday Night's Main Event, but I hate the concert it's on regular TV so it's advertisement during a PLE, is it? Even a PLE at this point it is, it's still a premium. It's like a glorified house show, because nothing relevant happens except for Kevin Owens, except for Kevin Owens yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean RT that Because, like the most I mean yeah, rt Shoof came back at the last one and attacked John Cena.
Speaker 1:That was money in the bank. That was money in the bank. He just had a match with John Cena.
Speaker 2:He had a match with John Cena Right.
Speaker 1:The most relevant thing that's happened is Bronson Reed returning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or like joining joining St. Ron's, it's a pretty big deal though. Yeah, it really is. Nxt comes on at 12 Eastern time. That goes on two to three hours. Maybe they say it takes three hours tops.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So 12, that goes on at four. Aew comes on at three. I think the pre-show comes on at 12, same time NXT does so by the time the main show comes on at 3, you'll miss an hour of AEW. Watch AEW. If it comes on at 3, it's 4 or 5 hours, which means it goes off at 7, 6 or 7 at night, then boom, main event comes on at 8 o'clock.
Speaker 1:That actually works kind of perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the only thing you're missing is probably an hour of AEW, so whatever opening match is for AEW, you're gonna probably miss that. I'll probably watch AEW, that's gonna be over, the main event for a bash which is probably gonna be over, and I can't think of the Japanese guy from NOAH, professor NOAH yeah, damn, I knew his name.
Speaker 1:He's with Briggsiggs.
Speaker 2:He's with Briggs, but anyway, yeah, that's going to probably be the main event or the contract signing between Trick Williams.
Speaker 1:And Mike Santana.
Speaker 2:Mike Santana and Joe Hendry.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a triple threat, it's a triple threat.
Speaker 2:It's a slumberversary for TNA. It's a slumberversary. It's their biggest event event. It is well, summerversary and bound for glory are their two biggest events yeah I can't remember which one is the biggest, but bound for glory and summerversary are their two biggest events because like slimmerversary I thought it was like.
Speaker 1:I thought it was like summer slim, but like bigger it's their anniversary date, it's like.
Speaker 2:It's like what do you mean?
Speaker 1:it's like. It's like their first broadcast First broadcast episode.
Speaker 2:It was like that first review.
Speaker 1:I think so it's like the anniversary basically. So like All In, but it's not like All In wasn't on the same date. No, it's like Double or Nothing yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like Double or Nothing.
Speaker 1:Oh All.
Speaker 2:In is the big one. Double or Nothing is like the other one.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought All In was their first show.
Speaker 2:I think it.
Speaker 1:Because I remember seeing like house show looking footage of Ricky Saints and well, ricky Starks at the time versus Cody Rose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a good match yeah, yeah. But yeah, so it should be a good weekend. Then Sunday you turn around and you got Evolution. So, yeah, this is a good weekend for any fans of pro wrestling. Yeah, like I said, you got four events you can watch this weekend, so you, you definitely not gonna get tired of wrestling this weekend.
Speaker 2:I mean you gotta have more than what you need to get your fix in and enjoy yourself and, you know, spend time with people who like wrestling with you. Plus, then you got uh, my TKO. You got a UFC event going on Saturday night as well. If you want to watch that while main event is on.
Speaker 1:TKO has a lot to do, or by the time main event goes off.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what time the UFC event comes on, but they're throwing two back-to-back ones which boom. Now you got UFC mixed in with it too.
Speaker 1:So it's two entire shows or just two matches.
Speaker 2:UFC.
Speaker 1:It's an entire pay-per-view.
Speaker 2:It's not a better view, it's a. It's a fight night which is to be on ESPN. So you got ESPN, t-hail got ESPN and you got NBC. They got two channels booked up. So but yeah anything else you want to add to it before we sign off nope alright, so I'm Ben. I'm Bash another episode of.