Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Welcome to the Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk, where two generations of wrestling fans come together to share their love for the sport in a unique father-son dynamic. Join hosts Ben and Bash as they dive into the exhilarating world of professional wrestling, offering insightful commentary, engaging discussions, and entertaining banter that will keep you on the edge of your seat.
Ben and Bash: Tag Team Talk
Who Will Rise? Women's Wrestling at WWE Evolution
We dive into our predictions for the upcoming WWE Evolution PLE and analyze what could be in store for this all-women's event returning after a seven-year hiatus.
• Championship matches including Jordynne Grace vs Jacy Jane for the NXT Women's Title with implications for a TNA crossover
• No Holds Barred match between Jade Cargill and Naomi with Bianca Belair as special guest referee
• Fatal Four-Way for the Women's Tag Team Championships featuring The Judgment Day, Charlotte/Alexa, Sol Ruca/Zaria, and The Kabuki Warriors
• Women's Battle Royal with potential surprise returns from legends like AJ Lee or Paige
• Trish Stratus challenging Tiffany Stratton for the SmackDown Women's Championship
• Women's Intercontinental Championship Triple Threat between Becky Lynch, Bayley, and Lyra Valkyria
• Main event: Io Sky defending the Women's World Championship against Rhea Ripley
WWE Evolution should become a yearly or bi-yearly event to properly showcase the incredible talent in women's wrestling rather than waiting another seven or eight years for the next one.
Welcome to the Bennett Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk. I'm Ben, I'm Bash. It's time to lace up your boots and hit them out with the Bennett Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.
Speaker 2:All right, here we are for another one. We are going to be doing a second evolution. Wwe Evolution has been what? Eight, seven, eight years since the last one.
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean all in-depth review of you. I mean you should have more by now. I should at least three or four by now. I would say every couple years I would say do one, don't do one every year, but I was at least every two years. You should, you should do one yeah I mean all the women you got nothing to be.
Speaker 2:Uh, retired wrestlers you know work with, working with tna, now working with triple. I mean you got a bunch of people you can bring up to do that every couple years to keep it fresh.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to become a yearly pay-per-view. Why don't you think it's going to be a yearly pay-per-view?
Speaker 2:Because there ain't been one yet, it's only the second one in eight years or seven years. So they haven't done it. Think every two years, be on the safe side.
Speaker 3:It shouldn't be another seven, eight years for the next one. Put it that way.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't be another seven, eight years for the next one. Yeah, but yeah, we're just going to you know, give our predictions on it, what we think is going to happen, storylines involved and that kind of stuff. So yeah, let's get to it.
Speaker 1:All Women's Championship and for this one I mean I would say JC Jane, but Masha Slamovich, I think at Slamiversary, has a title for title match.
Speaker 2:I guess whoever wins this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like I don't think they, are they going to unify the titles?
Speaker 2:No, it's just title for title, basically.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, it's like a double chain. I don't think that should happen.
Speaker 2:It's already booked. Marsha Samovich is fighting to win this next weekend, I think it is. So whoever wins this match is going to wrestle against Marsha Samovich.
Speaker 1:I don't see JC Jane wrestling Marsha Samovich and I don't see her winning either.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm going to say Tripp Williams got the TNA championship, so it would be unreasonable for a TNA wrestler to get a championship in NXT.
Speaker 1:I mean no, jordan Gracie signed to NXT. I know that I'm saying Marcia Samovich, oh, marcia Samovich, don't join Gracie's side of NXT.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about Marcia Samovich.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If Trick Williams won, why can't? A TNA wrestler win an NXT Championship I don't know it's not a one-way street. Supposedly it's supposed to be both sides.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, go ahead, Finish up what you were saying.
Speaker 1:But um, so I'm going to say Jordan Grace.
Speaker 2:Any reason why?
Speaker 1:No, I just think her versus Waxer Slamovich has more rivalry. I mean, they've already wrestled before.
Speaker 2:Exactly that's what I'm saying, not to say I want to see something new. But Jordan, yeah, I guess you can put Jordan Grace in there. But I mean, jc Jane wouldn't be a bad choice either. But yeah, I guess for some anniversary, yeah, jordan Grace versus. I guess that works better, but either one can win. You're going, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go ahead and go with JC Jane and win this.
Speaker 3:So just to I mean she only had time for that long he can't ever have time for it.
Speaker 2:How long has that worked? Two months a month. How?
Speaker 1:long has that been going on the main roster? Two months since money in the bank was money in the bank March April. May.
Speaker 2:May, so two months, about like a couple of days. Do you have the bill?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Come on now, at least give her a good reign. Come on now. She's been working here for years. Let her get a nice 100 plus day reign like everybody else does.
Speaker 1:Not 100 plus. That's WWE, not NXT Let her.
Speaker 2:Lose that T-Wave.
Speaker 3:I guess, Oscar had it for how long. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:Shayna Baszler had it for how long.
Speaker 1:Shayna Baszler in NXT.
Speaker 2:Exactly NXT.
Speaker 3:She had a whole group of girls around her. Yeah, they can help her keep it.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So she shouldn't really lose it.
Speaker 2:She has those two girls helping her the whole time, unless they break up.
Speaker 1:But yeah.
Speaker 2:I got JCJ winning it, keeping it the whole time unless they break up. But yeah, I got JCJ winning it, keeping it for a little bit longer, maybe losing it at Heat Wave or something like that. Yeah, but that's what I was Well never mind, because whoever wins this could lose to Masha Samovich.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so which is why I?
Speaker 2:don't think. Jordan Grace is going to win it, because Jordan Grace wins it then wins the TNA championship too. She just came to TNA.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It would have to be JC James. Jc James may lose to Marsha Stone.
Speaker 1:You don't think Jordan Grace is going to lose? Oh yeah, because then her title reign and then it would end.
Speaker 2:After a week. Exactly After a week, or how long? Yeah, about a week or so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a, I'm a, you're gonna stick with. Jordan Grace, though right, uh huh, stick with Jordan Grace. No, I don't think so. I don't know. You can stick with Jordan.
Speaker 2:Grace, she can beat Masha Stumper, because they may have both titles.
Speaker 1:I'll stick with Jordan Grace.
Speaker 2:She could win both titles, I mean she had to take these titles before before she came to WWE.
Speaker 1:I'll stick with Jordan Grace. Yeah, probably gonna lose, um, so, uh, that's what you gonna say for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got jaycee james for that one and uh. The second match on the card is jay cargill versus naomi, with bianca belair as the special guest referee, and it's a no bars match too which is what they needed, because it's been on sight with them since they figured out that Naomi was the one that pushed Jade onto that car. Every time somebody comes out, the other one comes out, so you have to have this kind of match, some kind of stipulations. Falls County, where no holds barred, last woman standing.
Speaker 3:Something like that.
Speaker 2:It's the only way you can end this feud, or at least this way anyways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I see Jade Kirkland winning and then Naomi's going to cash in on her To keep the rivalry. I see Jade Cargill winning and then Naomi's going to cash in on her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to keep the rivalry. Here's the other question, though Is Bianca going to have is she going to be what they call partial right down the middle, or is she going to be?
Speaker 1:She's going to be impartial. To Naomi Impartial, I was going to say she's going to be impartial right no To.
Speaker 2:Naomi. Impartial means she doesn't have anything. She's in the middle. Oh no, no, Partial, partial means she's going to be on either side.
Speaker 1:Oh, she's going to be on Jade Cargill's side. She's going to be partial.
Speaker 2:To Jade Cargill no.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She's going to be going against Naomi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you think yeah. Why? Because she attacked her best friend and Jade didn't even. It was deserved, kind of.
Speaker 2:But why wouldn't Bianca join forces with Naomi?
Speaker 1:Why would she do that after she took out their best friend, both of their best friends?
Speaker 2:Maybe she felt the same way. Maybe Naomi did it first before Bianca did it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so, just saying I mean everybody was talking about look at Jade.
Speaker 2:now Where's Jade at right now? She's in the title picture what match?
Speaker 1:summer slam which is the second biggest show and it's, and it's, the biggest one. That's the biggest one supposedly, of the summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah and jade's in that match, not bianca, not naomi. Yeah, I mean bianca was. Exactly. And what happened while she was hurt? Jade, yeah, forgot about her and went on her own. Mm-hmm Won Queen of the Ring, just going to challenge, I guess, eo, or whoever wins between EO and Rhea.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Jade's going to win.
Speaker 2:Or will it be the?
Speaker 1:winner of Tiffany and Trish Stratus so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So she already has a title shot already, just waiting to see who's going to get it. Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, go ahead. Who are you saying? You say you got who winning.
Speaker 1:Jay Cardew, Jay Cardew. I want Naomi to win. Though just for the record, I'm going to go with Naomi winning, because Jay doesn't need to Chet's house already.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, and then Bianca's to get the guest referee, so anything can happen in that match. Referees.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's WWE, so guest referees always get involved some kind of way.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So I think Bianca's going to get involved and help Naomi and that kind of starts a little mini-feud with. Or yeah, I I don't know, because then if you start a feud with Bianca, costing- Jade the match, then it's going to be Jade, but then nobody. Huh, I mean, you'd rather? See Naomi and Bianca feud with each other and give them something to do in the meantime but, I just don't see, I just don't see it how. I just don't see it.
Speaker 1:They got that whole Oscar winning performance on SmackDown. You don't think they're going to go to rivalry?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know but, I'm just saying this. Bianca was getting booed a lot of times. You don't think that's going to get to her. To make her sour, naomi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you got to think about it. I don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe not, but it could you never know. With this match, I'm gonna go with Naomi winning. I'm going Naomi winning.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's what you're gonna say.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it. I'm gonna win that one no holds barred match.
Speaker 1:And for the third match on the card, it's the Judgment Day versus Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss versus Soruka and Zaria versus the Kabuki Warriors for the WWE Women's Tag Team Championships. And the Judgment Day is Raquel and Roxanne instead of Raquel and Liv.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Live that with a shoulder injury yeah. Which is tough for Evolution too, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So for this one, I think, I mean I think Roxanne I mean, no, not Roxanne Charlotte and Alexa are gonna win, but I hope that the Judgment Day wins to keep the feud going? Actually, no, Because then they I don't know, I'm going to say Charlotte and Alexa maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean it would be like WWE to let Charlotte and Alexa For Charlotte and Alexa to win. It would be WWE eventually. Because I mean they always, Anytime you put people together like that. Cody Rhodesins and Jay would still win tag team finals.
Speaker 3:It just happens, For whatever reason you get two people who are?
Speaker 2:tag team who don't have any tag team experience technically, but they put them together and they all of a sudden win tag team gold. Naomi and Jay, Not Naomi Bianca and Jay Boom. Tag team champions.
Speaker 3:And then Naomi and Bianca.
Speaker 2:Exactly who do you got boom tag team champions, and then Naomi and Bianca. Exactly so who do y'all win at?
Speaker 1:Alexa and Charlotte it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not unreasonable for them to win, but and so, ruka and Zari, I don't see them winning yeah, I mean I don't see the Kabuki Wars winning, actually well, asuka coming back, they could easily win. I mean, and Kyrie, I don't see the Luki Wars winning. Actually, with Asuka coming back, they could easily win.
Speaker 1:I mean, and Kyrie, but I think Kyrie's saying you saw Vendetta. She had Not Vendetta, but like whatever it's called, video package. Video package, it was just like her pirate gimmick and you saw, like her goggle thing, it was looking at the Women's Championship. I think she's going to go after Iyo Sky Eventually.
Speaker 2:Or Asuka too. What's Asuka going to do?
Speaker 1:She's going to go after Iyo Sky too.
Speaker 2:But Hmm you know what? I'm going to keep the Judgment Day because Finn Balor is going to tag team championships. I'm going to keep that in the house. Let that be. Yeah, yeah, let them. What's up, what's up, what do you want that to be the cause? We see Dominic and Finn are having little issues right now. Are they going to break up?
Speaker 1:eventually, but not right now. That's what I'm saying. So.
Speaker 2:I think the women, raquel and Roxanne, are going to win again. Well, not again, but they're going to defend their championships.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it should be a good match, though. I mean, those are four good teams, a bunch of good wrestlers in that match there's not any bad wrestlers in that match.
Speaker 1:Really. I mean, Raquel may be the least experienced out of that, but Roxanne.
Speaker 2:Roxanne wrestled for a while. She's an ROH champion.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know that, so maybe Sol Ruka may be the least experienced. Yeah, probably Sol Ruka. Sol Ruka may be the least experienced.
Speaker 2:But every time she wrestles, what does she do? She puts do. She puts on a show mm-hmm there's actually wrestles yeah so you can't tell, and it's already been wrestling for a while in the pen.
Speaker 1:The scene and then we already know Kyrie and Oscar is that you know what Charlotte and Lesley's been doing on there to be for last almost decade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, that should be a good man like. There's not that to me it's not a week, nine weeklings on this match that somebody's like pulling somebody else up or something like that yeah, all. All of them can hold their own, which means it's got the potential to be a good tag team match.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:You know, but you said that Judgment did.
Speaker 2:I want Zarya and Solo to win, but I just don't see it.
Speaker 1:You do, yeah, I do. I want them to win. I don't think that will fit the storyline.
Speaker 2:But want them to win. But I don't think they're not going to win because I think Dari and Solo are going to feud at Heat Wave or something like that later on this year. So you can't have them be tag team champions and feud at the same time.
Speaker 1:I mean, who will want to win? Probably the Kabuki Warriors, but I don't think they're going to win. But uh, I said alexa and charlotte, and for the next match. That's what you can say, that's it all. Right, the next match, the fourth match on the card, it's the bat, it's the women's battle royal.
Speaker 2:Um is this a gimmick match on evolution no, it's just a. It's a match, like I told you before what was it?
Speaker 1:was it in the last evolution? I don't think so oh, I don't remember I thought it was maybe.
Speaker 2:I can't accept it. Usually I can't remember that far, so I don't remember. I thought it was. Maybe I can't, I can't remember, but I can't remember. But uh, yeah, I mean they need. I'll tell you that before you know. Whoever doesn't get one on one matches you just have like a battle royale or something. That way you can have all the women from the past, present, future oh yeah, also it's for clash.
Speaker 1:I don't match that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm saying like, battle Royale, though, is good because you can put people I thought they would have one at Worlds Collide with AAA wrestlers and WWE wrestlers, nxt wrestlers all in one place. But yeah, so Battle Royale is good too, because you can put women who don't have a singles match or a tag team match or whatever on this, and you can have them. You can bring older wrestlers out who may not be in a wrestle a full time, a full match, anymore, but still want to be there, like I'm hoping to see maybe Jazz or somebody show up. I mean, she's technically retired, but she can always come out and do a couple things in the ring and then get thrown out, you know, just to make the crowd pop a little bit, you know isn't that just a wasted spot?
Speaker 2:though no, why she's a legend. I'm not talking about Jacqueline or just like anybody like have we not seen wrestlers running in the ring get eliminated in one second?
Speaker 3:so that's a wasted spot. Technically it is. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying I'm not talking about that. I'm saying come in, do a couple moves on people and then get thrown out. That way you don't have to actually put a full wrestling match if you can't do one.
Speaker 1:So, like Booker T did a couple years ago Exactly he came out got popped.
Speaker 2:Came out, did a couple things, spinneroni boom thrown out.
Speaker 3:He was never going to win it.
Speaker 2:We knew that, but it's the pop, so maybe they do something like that with some of the older women wrestlers legends who didn't get a chance to get that much time on TV. Maybe like a Gail Kim or somebody, a lot of wrestlers from back in the Attitude Era or right after. They were only getting five-minute matches. Then they had gimmick matches. There was never an actual one-on-one.
Speaker 2:Lita and Trish Stratus kind of changed that around Trying on people like that. Before that that it was a bunch of gimmick matches like mud wrestling and stuff like that you know it was like. So the real women wrestlers the women who could actually wrestle, wouldn't get up to it and wrestle, so maybe the ones who didn't get up to it need that chance to get their POE, you know moment yeah, I think Evolution is a great, a great pay-per-view.
Speaker 1:get their POE, you know moment yeah. But yeah, I think Evolution's a great, a great pay-per-view.
Speaker 2:It is. It is Like I said. They should do one, if not every year, every two years or so.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know I think they should do one every year.
Speaker 2:They should do one every year, but you know they probably had spent seven years in the last one because they had plenty of time doing the last one.
Speaker 1:That was someone else's booking, to be fair.
Speaker 2:Still, you could have did it.
Speaker 3:Who do you got winning?
Speaker 2:that? Who do you?
Speaker 1:think it's like the casino gauntlet match. I mean, you don't know who's going to be in it.
Speaker 2:I know. We know a few people are going to be in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we know a title line at Clash that cancels all the lines, so we know more likely that one of the older ones aren't going to win it, probably not. Nxt is going to win it more likely Probably.
Speaker 3:So it has to be somebody on the main roster?
Speaker 1:probably, so it has to be somebody on the main roster. Do you want to do a thing where we get extra points if we predict like someone coming back?
Speaker 2:we could, but what do you want to do I? Mean I already, I already think there's a lot of people out there Gil Kim and Jazz yeah you know, I would say AJ, lee and maybe Paige, I don't know Paige is a free agent. She did a podcast with.
Speaker 1:CBC right yeah.
Speaker 3:Chris Van Vliet.
Speaker 2:Chris Van Vliet.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She did a podcast with him, so she's freaking right now. She said she can pop up anytime she wants to.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She's cleared to wrestle, so she could easily pop up. She was at the last one, but she didn't wrestle.
Speaker 1:So you want to count extra points or not?
Speaker 2:We can just predict it and see what happens.
Speaker 1:I I'm saying AJ, lee and Paige are coming back.
Speaker 2:AJ Lee's a good one. I mean, if AJ Lee comes? I've been saying that for years.
Speaker 1:I mean, but like she said on her I forgot what it was, but it was like she like said like hello darkness, my old friend and she had like her old boots on or something.
Speaker 2:That was a little while ago, though, wasn't it? No, that was like pretty recent.
Speaker 1:I thought that was a while ago. No Like how long did you talk to her, but maybe she was. I know she was doing it.
Speaker 2:She did a TV show where she was like on a TV show, like a wrestling TV show.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She did that where she was wrestling on that, so I thought it might have been around that time when she did that, when she posted it.
Speaker 1:No, but it was like she had like her old boots on and stuff.
Speaker 2:Paige, aj, that's two good ones. Two good ones, I mean. If Paige comes back, she's going to actually be wrestling. Aj comes back, she may not be there full time, unless she wants to be, you know.
Speaker 2:This would be a perfect time for her to come back, though, in the Battle Royal. Yeah, it'd really be better for her to come back in the Royal Rumble, because you get the actual full introduction. You know when you're coming out Battle Royals, everybody already in the ring. There's just a few of them at the end. A lot of them. They should do all of them.
Speaker 1:They should take time to do every single person going to be in the Battle Royals One by one.
Speaker 2:Bring everybody out Normally when they do Battle Royals. I saw a few of the Andre the Giant Battle Royals. You saw it, you were that one of them, where they have a bunch of them come out at one time.
Speaker 1:And then they have, like the big guy.
Speaker 2:And then they have a few guys come out individually yeah or the guy who's just going to win. Yeah, exactly, so that's what they usually do. A lot of times they're going to do that again today for the the AJ Lee, or it would be the AJ Lee or Paige.
Speaker 1:If it was a surprise, it would be the last one to be the surprise one, yeah, just to get a pop, because if they're already in the ring, that's going to be boring.
Speaker 2:Exactly so, yeah, but who do you got winning? You think Because they got to get a title shot at Clash of the Castles.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:I don't know of whoever on their brand, because if SmackDown wins, it'd be against Tiffany or Trish.
Speaker 1:I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2:I think they just said a WWE Women's Champion, yeah, but I'm guessing, though if you're on that, whatever brand you're on, that's how it match. If you're on NXT, do you get to go NXT Women's Champion or do you get WWE Women's?
Speaker 1:No, I think it's WWE winners. Wwe okay, so that's what I'm saying, Because Kalani and Jordan, I think was cutting a promo on Tiffany and them, I think I don't know, so yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So whoever wins that will get a title match against one of the women on WWE.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure, anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2:Who do you think is going to win anything? It's hard to predict that because you got at least 20 women.
Speaker 1:I think it's going to be either Stephanie Viqueur or somebody else.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's Stephanie myself. I don't think it's Stephanie already myself.
Speaker 1:I kind of want to say AJ Lee, but I don't see a return happening. I don't see a return she does come back, I don't see a return winning.
Speaker 2:It'd be because it'd be one of the heels to throw her out to get some good heat on them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I would say Stephanie Rukia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like agreeing with you a lot, because I don't like things like that, because it'd make it funner, but for more fun, but uh, I mean there's no, there's literally nobody else that's gonna win. I'm just talking about who's gonna win yeah, but I mean, you don't know who's gonna be in it who.
Speaker 1:But who would win if they were in it? I would say Bianca Baller, but she's not in it yeah, if you don't.
Speaker 2:Jay's not in it, naomi's not in it, sean's's in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's it, that's really it, oh.
Speaker 2:NXT women Last Legend's in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't see them winning.
Speaker 2:Oh, speaking of Last Legend, I'm thinking, you know what. I'm going to go back to my prediction on Naomi real quick. I just thought about this. I was thinking about this the other day, it just popped in my mind again.
Speaker 1:It's about the NXT thing. Oh, that's not happening.
Speaker 2:It is no, it's not Perfect place to do it Ladd Legend, hometown, mm-hmm. Perfect place. Because she just lost for a no More Contenders match on NXT. Yeah, she can move up to the main roster. That'd be a good way to get her with a veteran, like they did Omos and AJ Styles, mm-hmm. Put them with somebody who knows what they're doing, like Naomi. You can also have her be the muscle for Naomi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it doesn't get beat down by Jade every week, but I don't see that happening Okay.
Speaker 3:When it happens.
Speaker 2:You know what it is.
Speaker 1:That's not going to happen, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Last Legend coming up.
Speaker 1:She's going to be at Babyface because people like Last.
Speaker 2:But she's not at Babyface, her character's not at Babyface. Yeah, but like that's what I'm saying. They're gonna cheer and then they're gonna boo her because she's winning, because she helped Naomi beat Jade. That's not gonna happen it is gonna happen.
Speaker 1:That's what I think is gonna happen.
Speaker 2:You think Bianca's just like blind or something you ever heard about a referee getting knocked out?
Speaker 1:yeah, but Bianca Valeri's not just like any. Any referee I punch would just knock her out.
Speaker 2:No but still, it can happen though, but anyways that's why I got Last Legend coming up debuting on the main roster and helping out Naomi become her muscle. She don't have a group anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but who wins the Battle Royale?
Speaker 2:I was thinking about that. Stephanie Julia's in it. She is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's in it I thought champions weren't's in it.
Speaker 2:She is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's in it. Oh, I thought champions weren't allowed in it.
Speaker 2:No, julia's in it, chelsea Green's in it.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I'm sure Nia Jax may show up, I would think. Anyways, yeah, yeah, watch.
Speaker 1:Nia Jax.
Speaker 2:Be like the big, like the big person you know, like the big, like like the big person you know, like the make the major person yeah, but yeah, I think stephanie's gonna win it just because she has those women I'm going for right now outside of, like julia and all them, all the other girls.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so you think stephanie's gonna win it?
Speaker 2:yeah if anybody else, I'm sure I'm missing somebody that's off the top of my head. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna remember after we get done with this, but right right now I know I think Stephanie's going to win it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I think that, oh yeah, but I think Stephanie Viqueira's going to win. But for the next match on the card is Trish Stratus versus Stephanie Stratton for the WWE Women's Championship, for the WWE Women's Championship, and for this one, I feel like Tiffany just retains, because I feel like this is just a one-off thing for Trish Stratus, like she does on the show.
Speaker 2:Trish Stratus wrestled Lex Luthor last time on Evolution. Oh, she did I think it was Lex Luthor. Oh yeah, I think it was Lex Luthor last time, mm-hmm, I don't know if I can remember, so like a super modern person versus like a yeah, older person.
Speaker 1:Pretty much, yeah. That's what. That's what it is. That's what this is.
Speaker 2:This match is basically mhm so who do you got winning at Tiffany?
Speaker 1:yep, I don't see Trish Stratus winning, because I think that's just a one off appearance wait.
Speaker 2:she's been on TV a lot, though Shane said she retired.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she's not retiring. I'm just saying it's a one-off appearance, I think yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe she may get some help from some of her older females. I don't see that I know I'm just throwing stuff out there to make it interesting. Yeah, but yeah, I think Tiffany's going to retain as well, don, maybe SummerSlam against Jade, or maybe Hotel WrestleMania next year and lose it to somebody. I don't know. But yeah, I don't see Tiffany losing to Trish Stratus Not right now it's been 20 years ago, but a different story probably, but right now.
Speaker 1:I think Tiffany's the one that's. You know right now. She got it right now, mm-hmm. Oh yeah, so you're going to sit for that. Yeah, I'll sit for that, I and should be a good match, though, yeah definitely, and for the next match on the card is Becky Lynch versus Bayley versus Lila Vakaria for the WWE Women's Intercontinental Championship this match should have made it nah. I mean it still has a chance. I don't think, io Sky, they already said. I think they said yesterday.
Speaker 2:The main event that's the main event is el versus coming. We show el sky of the day instead of main event of evolution oh yeah, that makes sense, they showed her and they showed uh ria yeah yeah, he said the main event of evolution I mean personally.
Speaker 1:I yes, I think it does warrant the main event. But I don't think, even if it, even if it, uh, even if el or uh trish stratus match, I don't think. I don't think either, even if those were not announced to be the main event.
Speaker 2:I don't think those, I don't think Bayley's, because the problem is you got to go after who that match may start it off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you don't want to have that match be co-main event. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, if they, because you know, bayley, they're great wrestlers pretty much and they're going to put on a show.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you don't want to go after them if you don't know the main event, because now you got to live with that, what they just did.
Speaker 1:Kind of like that when they had Montez.
Speaker 2:Ford and them when they had that tag team match with all the tag teams, Uh-huh. And it was should have been a WrestleMania, but it wasn't, and then the War Raiders knew they looked bad. But then that other tag team actually got a resume.
Speaker 1:That was a match of the year contender it was.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, this right here is not a bad match either, so this match may start it off to get the crowd going, and all that, yeah, because this right here, this one and Naomi, are the two ones that have the biggest.
Speaker 1:Oh no, A title match is never going to make it.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm saying those two are the two biggest build-ups.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like what's going on with both the wrestlers. Naomi and Bayley, then Naomi and Jay, and then Bayley and Becky and Lyra. You know, I mean that's you going back, becky and Bayley going back to NXT. Yeah, and you put Lyra in there, who started wrestling because of Becky, trained in the same place as Becky.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean Lyra and Becky goes back to NXT too, exactly.
Speaker 2:She beat her Uh-huh, and then you got Bayley in there, which Becky attacked Bayley at Wrestlemania caused her not to be at the. Wrestlemania then, you know, took her spot, won tag team championships, Boom. Now she's in the Women's Intercontinental Championship. Yeah, so, but yeah, I mean that's the biggest, that's the biggest buildup, I think, in the whole card, besides Naomi and Jade, as far as title online.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But uh, but yeah, that's my opinion. They should have made it, but who do you got winning that though?
Speaker 1:Uh, Becky's gonna retain you think Becky's gonna retain. Uh Becky.
Speaker 2:Mmm. No, I think Baby's gonna win it.
Speaker 1:Where'd you get that logic from?
Speaker 3:Because where'd you get that logic from? Because it's just, it's a triple threat match.
Speaker 2:Anything can happen, yeah, and and, like I said, nobody likes each other Lara been fighting with Bayley, bayley been fighting with Lara. Lara been fighting with Becky, becky been fighting with with Bayley for a while. So it's nobody's gonna really team up. I think too much it's gonna be a little bit here and there, but it's not going to be much team up at all because all three are going to lock each other up.
Speaker 1:I think Bayley and Lyra are going to team up at the beginning, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe, or they may start fighting at the beginning, who knows, play both one of the same thing, mm-hmm, yeah, I'm going to go ahead, I mean you got to get her. I mean, she missed WrestleMania. Come on girl.
Speaker 1:I think if it would happen, it would happen at SummerSlam.
Speaker 2:Well, she would wrestle at SummerSlam against somebody else, I think.
Speaker 1:No, because I mean Becky and Bayley haven't had their one-on-one match.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can have it at SummerSlam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:You can have it at SummerSlam. I'm saying, if Bayley wins, if she pins Lyra, then Becky can be like you never pinned me. And then boom, there we go. Yeah, or or Becky wins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it, I think it, I think that happens.
Speaker 2:But the other way around. She pins Lyra, then Becky wants to rematch, but and then, and then there it works better for Becky lose, the country gets a rematch. So if Bayley was to pin Lara, Bayley would get a rematch and it would be more likely to be a SummerSlam. That's a SummerSlam match right there. It's a big time match.
Speaker 1:But I see that going the other way it could go either way.
Speaker 2:So neither one of us got Lara winning. No, lara doesn't win at all.
Speaker 1:I mean according to us, yeah, so. So I mean according to us, yeah so, but yeah, so that's what you're going to say for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got Bayley winning that one.
Speaker 1:All right, in the main event of WWE Evolution, it's Io Sky versus Rhea Ripley for the Women's World Championship. Yep, and this one, I mean I really want Io to win and this one, I mean I really want Io to win and I just I don't know. I just feel like Rhea Ripley shouldn't have the title for like at least like a couple of months. So I mean I'm going to say Io to retain, because I think she's going to retain. I mean I don't think so, but I want it's a hard one, because we know what Rhea does in championship matches.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She usually wins.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:On average, not all the time. She lost the rest of the main against Io, yeah, but it's the one-on-one.
Speaker 1:And then they keep saying that Rhea's never beat her, so when they do that, that means they always Exactly.
Speaker 2:They always have a storyline behind time. She doesn't, but Rhea has no help. Io, she doesn't, but she does, but she doesn't, they don't come out. They don't come out interfering with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She's still with damage control technically.
Speaker 1:She kind of left.
Speaker 2:Did she leave? They never feud with each other when she won the world title.
Speaker 1:she just left Well left.
Speaker 2:Well, she didn't leave him because Oscar went back here when she won the world title.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, but like the rest of the damage control in Dakota wasn't even there.
Speaker 2:Exactly. All you had was Kari Sane.
Speaker 3:Kari Sane, that's all you had.
Speaker 2:So you really couldn't leave anybody who was not there. Yeah, so they're back outside of Dakota, so, but, but, yeah, but.
Speaker 3:I got I'm'm gonna go with yo as well to win this.
Speaker 2:Uh, I mean, I really think ria probably will win it, but I really want yo to win every time yeah, definitely but you know what I'm gonna go. You say you pick the yo right? Yeah, all right, I'm just gonna go, I'm gonna go ahead, but you can't go wrong either one. I'm just going to pick ahead, but you can't go wrong with either one. I'm just going to pick Rhea. I'm going to go ahead and get Rhea.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go ahead and pick Rhea to win.
Speaker 2:You're going to lose, that's fine, I think so anyways. I'm going to go ahead and pick Rhea to win become the new Women's World Champion. You know she can feud with whoever Io versus Oscar or Kairi for the title, but I think, for some reason, I just think Rhea's going to win the title. Yeah, but yeah, All right. Oh, one thing, though, about this that I didn't really, not because I didn't like, but all women's PLE. You should have had all the belts. Now, what belts not being defended.
Speaker 1:The women's North American championship. I mean, that was defended yesterday, yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 3:but that was not being defended either.
Speaker 2:You mentioned it earlier. Oh, the United States, I mean, they don't you would think you would give her a one-on-one match at Evolution. I mean, she's a big time it could be anybody. Well, like who, though it could be anybody.
Speaker 2:It could be anybody Like I'm talking about with Athena the other day at AEW you could have put her in the ring as anybody in a one-on-one match for the AEW, for the ROH, but against anybody. It's not about who's in it, it's just about giving that spotlight. You know so, like Julia, she's a big time name and you got her in a battle royal.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying anything bad about battle royal but you could have a one-on-one match with her and whoever you could have gave you know anybody a shot for that, I mean anybody could get a you know, and it would have been a big time match, you have all the women, all the women's championships defended, except for the North American one yeah and even NXT women's has been defended on this.
Speaker 2:Nxt women's both WWE women's tag teams Intercontinental you could have probably squeezed the United States in there too yeah, but people don't like the US title. But with Julia Havis you could have probably squeezed the United States in there too. Yeah, but people don't like the US title. But with Julia Havis that's why you put it on a PLA like this. Yeah, to make more people aware of it. And it's Julia that has it too.
Speaker 1:She's a popular wrestler, Mm-hmm. You know, so, but again, who would? She doesn't have any storylines, except Zelina Vega. She could rematch, no I don't see Zelina Vega getting rematched.
Speaker 2:She couldn't rematch.
Speaker 3:She couldn't rematch.
Speaker 2:And that would have been in a feud right there Couldn't rematch. If Julia wins the feud's over with Do you think Zelina's going to turn heel ever? I don't know, but I'm just saying you can have her and Julia wrestle in the rematch. Have now that. Now, if julia wins now, selena is over, she can't, so she has no reason to ask for another title shot. And now you can have julie going. Somebody else now for getting ready for summer slam yeah, you know now you still got selena.
Speaker 2:Whoever else wants to get involved in that match, you know well. Anything else, you want to talk about this before y'all um nope, all right, so hopefully we don't have to wait another seven eight years to do another talk about this before y'all. Nope, alright. So hopefully we don't have to wait another 70 years to do another evolution thing. Hopefully it's another year or two years, but anyways I'm.
Speaker 1:Ben, I'm.
Speaker 2:Bash Tag.
Speaker 1:Team.
Speaker 2:Talk.