NXT Stand And Deliver Predictions

We go match by match through NXT Stand And Deliver with predictions that focus on what each result does for the story and who gains real momentum. Along the way we debate which wrestlers feel ready for main roster call ups and which ones still need one more big NXT run.
• Legacy wrestler connections and how WWE uses lineage 
• Vanity Project vs Los Americanos and why the tag titles matter 
• Tatum Paxley vs Blake Monroe and how timing errors changed past outcomes 
• Johnny Gargano’s slump story and whether a title win resets him 
• Sol Ruca vs Zaria and why a stipulation could've fit 
• Women’s title triple threat and how interference could shape call ups 
• NXT title fatal four way and the case for Tony D’Angelo 

Transcript

Welcome And Show Setup

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Welcome to the Benebash Podcast Tag Team Talk.

SPEAKER_00 0:07

I'm Ben.

SPEAKER_02 0:08

I'm Bash. It's time to wait to be a boost and hit the mat with the Bender Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.

Pre Show Eight Person Tag Picks

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Alright, I know it's been a minute, but here we are for another one. This time we're gonna be doing um NXT Stand Deliver. So uh, you know, you know how I do break it down, match, match by match, who we think's gonna win, storyline progression. But uh yeah, this is NXT's version of uh WrestleMania. It used to be on WrestleMania weekend, but kind of you kind of got two guys in WrestleMania now. It's kind of a little bit hard to um to do that now. So they got their own uh standalone show now. Used to call Tank Over and then Stand Deliver. But uh yeah, let's get to it.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

All right, for the pre-show is Hank and Tank, uh Shiloy L and EK Prosper and Ren Sinclair versus Birthright. Uh it's a pre-show. Um so uh I think Hank and Tank is probably gonna win because if you notice the babyface team normally wins, like on the pre-show. So I think their team is gonna win. Because like the heels, I feel like the heels normally don't win, especially on the pre-show.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Yeah, I mean, it just depends on what you what you like. I mean I like the birthright, it gave all of them opportunity to um to do something, you know, because they were all kind of doing their own thing. Yeah. It kinda it kind of works, you know. They all all of them, with with the exception of um Stax, are all second or third generation wrestlers. You know, um obviously we know Lexus King, who his dad is.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Uh uh, who's the other one? Ariana Grace. Arianna Grace, her dad, Santino. Yeah, uh Brian Pillman is Lexus King's dad. Ariana Grace, Santino's daughter.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Um, what's the other guy's name? Uh yeah from Chase Hill. Uh Fit Finley's son. And then you got Charles.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

Or Charlie.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

He's uh William Rinkle's son. And then you got Stax, which is he's engaged to Ariana Grace.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

So that's kind of that's kind of how the Hart Foundation did with Anvil. The Anvil wasn't the Hart, but he married into the Hart family. You know, he married, he married the daughter of Stuhart, which is Natalia's mom and dad, obviously. You know. So that's what so they kinda doing a similar thing to what the Hart Foundation did back in the day, where they had uh, you know, even even uh British Bulldog the same way.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

You know, he married to the Hart family. So by, you know, they're a member of the Hart family too. So but um But yeah, so with that being said, I I mean I want to see Birthright Land. I mean, they doing all this, you know what I'm saying? Like the Hank and Tank and Shiloh and EK Prosper, I think it's Elay Knight, they changed his name.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Uh EK Knight. I think that's too close to Ellie Knight, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Not really.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

LA EK, it's I mean, it's similar.

SPEAKER_02 3:12

Okay, but that's not that big of a deal.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

I mean, it could be, so I guess they changed it. I'm not sure why they changed it, but Yeah. And then Rand Sinclair, I mean, obviously she needs to be on the card. I mean, she's a she's one of the better female wrestlers on the roster. And uh I think people have seen that recently now with her being the um speed champion.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:30

But um, yeah, I need to see Burf, I want to see Burfright win just because they need to win a loss, they're lost on NXT. Um for a faction like that, they need some momentum. Otherwise, what's the point?

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

You know, I mean, other teams got thrown together. So you mean tell me a team that got thrown together at the last minute can be the team who's been together for what's it, a month or two now?

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Look at Survivor Series every year.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

I know, but I'm just saying. But those teams are usually teams that got thrown together though.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Both teams are. But this team is like when it's the faction, it was just teams that got thrown together literally at the on the last show.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

So they're like you said, usually maybe faces will end, but I think the heels should win this one though. That's why I think, anyways, some more of a birthright for that one.

Tag Titles And Mask Rival Hints

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Yeah. Um, the first match of the normal card, it's Vanity Project versus Los Americanos for the NXT Tag Team Championship. Chip. Uh, but for this one, uh Vanity Project uh won it against Darkstate, right? Yep. Okay, um, and then Los Americanos.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Um They won it, they won a tag team tournament.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

Yeah, I don't I don't think they're gonna win. I mean, they could win, but I feel like someone on main roster isn't gonna be like down at NXT doing work. They could. I mean, it would work for them. But I I just don't think they will because they have like stuff on the main roster. Yeah, I wonder if um this is a setup for El Grande versus El Grande?

SPEAKER_00 5:03

The original El Grande versus El Grande.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Because we know El Grande is gonna be there. The El Grande is what Los Americanas is gonna be there in that corner. I wonder if the original El Grande is gonna it's gonna come out and interfere in a match and cost them to win. Yeah. That would get the few that I mean that that that should be on WrestleMania because of what the new El Grande has been doing.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I mean, I mean, he's took he's taken that character and and ran with it. So what he's been doing versus what the original did is I mean, both of them have been doing pretty good work. And it and this that's a WrestleMania where they match.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

You know, you know, will they have a mask versus mask? Kind of too late to really build that up and got too much for WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Well, this easily is just if the storyline is right there.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

That's what I'm saying, and but are they gonna do it? Or are they gonna wait till after WrestleMania and make it on backlash? You know what I mean? Like it could be on backlash because WrestleMania right now is stacked. And what you don't want to do is just throw a match on the card as a five-minute match.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Well, match versus math isn't gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

But it could, I'm just what I'm saying. You don't want you don't want to throw it on card and you end up being cut and then it'd be a five-minute match with this this match needing more breathing room.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Yeah. Like it needs more room to breathe. So a backlash match wouldn't be bad necessarily for that match. You know. Um but it should go to WrestleMania, but I just don't know if they have enough enough time because WrestleMania's already pretty stacked already when everybody has on WrestleMania for both nights.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

You know.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

But so yeah, I think Vanity Project's gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Yeah, same here. I think Vanity Project's gonna win as well. Uh good young tag team. Um it should be a good match with those Americanos. You know, both of those two guys are veteran wrestlers.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Uh should be a pretty good match, though. New guy versus the older Oheads. Should be a pretty good match. So I'm gonna go with Vanity Project as well.

Women’s North American Title And Botch Talk

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Yeah. And uh for the next match on the car is Tatum Pasley versus Black Monroe for the NXT Women's North American Championship.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Yep. If they let them two wrestle, this should be one of the better matches on the car, too.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

I mean it's a couple, it's a couple of good matches on this car as far as just if if if they're allowed to, like, you know, if they can actually get the time to let the match marinate a little bit, you know what I mean? So but yeah, go ahead though with that one.

SPEAKER_02 7:28

Um uh this m this feud has been really good.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

I think it's I think it's one of the best uh built matches for this card.

SPEAKER_00 7:40

Yeah, I think so too. Um as far as the build-up tool, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Yeah. So uh Blake Monroe, she already had it, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:51

No, Talen Practically. Oh, yeah, she had it before.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Yeah, she had it originally, and then she lost it to um Thea Hale in that in that um, I guess I'm gonna call it botch, but I feel like it was supposed to happen though. No, I don't think it's supposed to happen. I think I think what happened was um in that match with Thea Hale, I think Blake Monroe got the air not high.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

And she just wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Oh, like she literally didn't do like kick out?

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Yeah, I think she was.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

But Thea Hale looked like she like was excited and like She was surprised.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

Uh if you listen to that match, Blake Monroe's music hit.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Before they turned it off and played Thea's music.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Yeah. So I Oh there to have music ready for the end of the match?

SPEAKER_00 8:32

That's what it seemed like. Uh yeah, yeah. But I think what happened was uh Black Monroe got the air night out of her a little bit on that um on that um the rope scent on she did. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

You jump on the middle or talk, whatever rope, she's metal rope or whatever it was, she jumped on her and then knock the air out of her.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

And when she went to Panter, she she didn't kick out. I don't know if she was supposed to reverse it and put her in the crucifix pan.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

Or what, but she didn't do it. And she didn't kick out or anything either. I think she was, like say, you get the air out there, you can't break for a second. Yeah. And so you're not aware of what's going on. It's just three seconds, you gotta be on the ground. So, and referee count it. I mean, referee count it. I mean, what else can you do?

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

You want them to stop the pen and you want them to stop at two? And Black on the road didn't kick out, then it's ref then, you know what I'm saying? Like then you see you see a lot of times where a person don't kick out in time and the referee has stopped counting.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Yeah, that looks doesn't just make makes it look weird.

SPEAKER_00 9:31

Exactly. So referee did his job. I mean, the person didn't kick out and he counted three. I mean, was he supposed to? Probably not, but that's what happens. But anyways, yeah. Yeah. And then we know what happened in um the hellos to Izzy Dane. Mm-hmm. And then Izzy Dane and Tatum had the feud, and Tatum beat Izzy.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

So I think Tatum might move up to the main roster. I think.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

I mean, both of them could, though. That's the problem. Both of these wrestlers could move to the main roster.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

I think Blake, I mean, she doesn't need it, but I think she's gonna go for the main title first and then.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

But you don't need that in the XT. No, absolutely she doesn't need it, but most women don't a lot of people wasn't the Women's Champion in XT. Yeah. Before he moved to the main roster. Baker Legends didn't win any titles in XT.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

And look what she's doing now.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

So, I mean, a lot of women didn't. A lot of women, not said a lot of women, a lot, most of the main roster women did win XT title at some point in time, but a lot of them didn't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

I mean, last Legend never won.

unknown 10:40

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

She won was a taxing of the tax thing? Or no?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, I think no, no, no, she never won it.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

They never won any belt, right? Yeah, XT, and then her kids were in the middle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

And now she won the title.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

That's what I'm saying. And then she's the one and then she's the title on the main roster. So it can happen where you don't, I mean, but at this point, Blake Monroe has already been NXT uh North American women's champion.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

So it's a little bit, you know what I'm saying? So like she's already won a belt. So for her, and then she she already knew how to wrestle. I think she had to learn how to do WWE style. As far as AW style, just the promos and you know what I'm saying? Like how to how to do everything before you go to the main roster. She's she's been already to wrestle while now she learned how to do the promos and all that kind of stuff now. You know. Which I think is why Jay, I think Jay should have been in NXT first for a little while instead of the main roster.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Yeah, like she was on NXT, but she didn't like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Yeah, like she she had help because Bianca and Naomi helped her out big time.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

You know, being in being with them kind of helped her out. But if you don't have help like that, it's kind of harder for you to go straight to the main roster if you come from an independent wrestling or unless you're like already like a big name. Even then it's different. The styles are different. The the the way you do stuff is different than AEW and other people.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

I mean, look at Jordan Grace. She went to XT first. Learned how to do stuff that main roster. You know, people like that. You know, it's it's rare, like AJ Styles, you know, straight to the main roster. Cool, you know. But but yeah. So who do you have uh in this match?

SPEAKER_02 12:24

Um I think Tane Impacts were gonna retain.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

Yeah. She lost the women's championship on her first match, her first defense. This is her first, this is her first defense for this belt, too, right?

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Uh should be Izzy. I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Yeah. So because she won the belt from Izzy, then Blinker Rowler attacked her, right? Yeah. Okay, from the other stage of the water.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Unless she just had like an open challenge, maybe at a well saying, so she attacked her in the on the ring on a ramp.

SPEAKER_00 13:00

So Yeah, I wouldn't see Tano Packsley win too. I told you before David Baxter is one of the better female wrestlers in Dunna B all all around. I mean, she's put the work in from where she started at to where she is now. She's put the work in. So it's not like Species out here, you know what I'm saying? Like just barely doing nothing. She's a she's a pretty good wrestler when they when she's allowed to, and she's gonna she can actually wrestle in the match. You know, got a good character going on, and she puts matches together good too. So it's like, you know?

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:33

But uh, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

Yeah, I think Taylor's gonna win. I think I think Blake is gonna go to the main roster, I think. Uh, yeah, I can see that, but I think I mean her or I mean her, I mean, it's a women a lot of them on this match, I think it's gonna go to the main roster after this for the call-ups. I think probably we'll get to it later, but I think at least three women are gonna be called up from this car to the main roster here next after WrestleMania. For sure. At least three.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Yeah, I I think I know you're about to name. At least three. I think I know you're about to mean.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

At least three.

Gargano’s Slump And Title Decision

SPEAKER_02 14:10

But yeah. Yeah. So, um but yeah, so uh uh yeah, I think Tatum Paxton's gonna win too. Yep. So um, yeah. For the next match on the card is Miles Born versus Johnny Gargano for the North American Championship, the Mass North American Championship. Um and this one, Johnny Gargano, he's been on his what what do you even call what he's been doing recently?

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Like slump.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Slump type of thing. The not itself. I mean, I mean his partner left. His partner, how long were him and Champ are partners? Years. I don't know. And then he left him.

SPEAKER_02 14:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

I mean, so I mean, the storyline works because he he lost his partner.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

You know, I mean and his partner's doing good things in AEW right now.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Yeah, and even and he Yeah, and even when he was about to like be himself again, he got knocked straight back down by Oba Femi.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Exactly. He came out there, he was good, and then boom, Oba Femi comes out and humbles him even more.

SPEAKER_02 15:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:18

Which I mean it works for both of them. It made O look strong and engaged Johnny Gargano more, you know, and knocked him back down again.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

But I I think they've been doing good things with this Johnny Gargano thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

I mean it's it's a different take on this character.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

I mean, so I don't do you think he needs to win? Because I don't think he needs it.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

The way the storyline is working, he needs to.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Yeah, but I don't think he will. I I don't I don't see.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

I mean, the way the storyline is working, he needs to win.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

But then he's but then he's gonna be on SmackDown probably the next week with the title, so Yeah. And you don't see that very much.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

I mean you you might, but yeah, but he'll I mean, yeah, you you can, but unless they just use the match itself to to awaken Johnny Johnny Wrestling up. Like just the match itself is gonna energize him. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

You know, so uh unless it's just the match itself. But I don't know if they're gonna how they're gonna do it. But I mean Miles Bourne is good, but he I think he needs to get a little bit more of a uh mean trick in him. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

I mean yeah, he's a babyface, cool, but that's that's how I mean, yeah I guess it works. Especially if you want to make him go to the main title after this. You could have him lose this and and push him to the main title.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

To the main event title.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

I mean, wasn't he already there?

SPEAKER_00 16:46

He was, then he went down and won this because Ethan Page helped him out.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Ethan Page told him how to win.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

You know? So but uh who do you got winning?

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Uh I have my I mean, I want Jordan Gargano to win, realistically, but uh we don't realistically I don't think he's gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Yeah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say Jordan Gargano's gonna win just because I think the belt helps him with his way with his storyline's working.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Yeah, I I think it does too.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

I just the belt helps him more, I think.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

So Yeah, I think you might be right. I want to change my answer, but I'm gonna stick with my answer.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Yeah, I think I think I'll be I'm thinking I'm gonna go with Johnny on that one. Johnny wrestling on that one.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

Yeah, yeah. I see where you're coming from.

unknown 17:33

Yeah.

Sol Ruka Vs Zarya Needs A Stip

SPEAKER_02 17:34

But yeah, um for the next match on the car is Soruka versus Zarya. Yeah, and this is the I think it's the only one on the actual card, not the pre-show, that doesn't have a championship on the line.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Or it should have been a stipulation on this match, though.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Yeah, it should like I feel like it's not gonna be boring because it's too great for that.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

It should have been like a street fight.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

I feel like it wants, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Yeah, it's like a street fight or a cage fight or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

It should have been like a stipulation on the match. Or lose release NXT or that would have been something like that where you know it would give because I think Solvers can go to the main roster after this match. I think she's going to the main roster after this match.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Yeah, I mean, Zarya could, but they need to.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

No, no, no. I think Solver.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

You don't think she can?

SPEAKER_00 18:17

No, she can, but they need her in the NXT for right now. You know, she should be on the main roster, yes, absolutely. But it works better with Sol Ruka going to the main roster. I feel like Zarya getting rid of her.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Like, I don't mean this with any disrespect, but I don't think they're gonna do stuff with Sol Ruka, right? But if Zarya goes to the main roster right now, I don't think they're gonna do something, but I don't think she's gonna like get you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Not right now.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

I think Soul works better right now. Yeah. And so if you if you make Zarya look like I mean Charlotte has this move, the female brought last night, destroying everybody.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Because her has an L5 mode, which has a pretty good too.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

So if you have her kind of do that a little bit, then it works better for her character. You know, no on eating friends, um, I'm um I just want to win. Period. And so with with Sol Ruka, you have her go to the main roster, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

And then that way, you know, you get rid of her. And that way Zarya can focus on because she she blames Soluca for her losing these belts.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

I mean, kinda.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

So if you get rid of her, yeah, there's no excuse now.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Mm-hmm. And she probably should win. I mean, she probably would win.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Exactly. There you go. That's how it works.

SPEAKER_02 19:33

Mm-hmm. But yeah, so I think Zarya's gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

If bec but because there's so here's the thing with that, like Zarya should win. She should win.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah, but they might what they might do is they might have soul win and still go to the main roster.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Yeah, but they hurt Zarya care.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

No, I knew it does, but that's something that they might.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

That's that's what that's what I'm thinking they're gonna do, but they shouldn't. Like, Zarya should not lose this match.

SPEAKER_02 20:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

And then they were booing soul the day, too. They were born or two. Yeah. I think that's why they didn't have them NXT last week. Or this past week, because last week she got booed.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Because the people wouldn't they didn't they didn't like what she was saying. She came across as a Hill character.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

So Ruka did. You know. And I think that's why they didn't have him on TV this week. They had a little backstage recorded video with both of them. Um so that being, like I said, I'm this is a tough stuff for me because I I like Seoul. Uh, but Zarya needs this win. She has to win this match.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

I just don't know if they're if if if that's gonna happen though. It should, but it should happen, but if she loses, then where'd she go after that? Like if Soul Ruka loses, cool, she goes to the main roster.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Yeah, that's yeah, it's not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

If she wins, cool, she goes to the main roster. But like if Zarya loses she can't be the she can't be the the powerhouse that she is in the room. Yeah, because then she's gonna look like we unless unless Soul cheese to win.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

But then they they have to follow up that storyline. They can't just they they can't just leave it high and dry like that.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Yeah, yeah. She she beats her, then she leaves, and then she leaves and goes to main roster because she's got she's done with her. And they they may Zarya mad go on like a on a on a hot streak.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

But wouldn't she want to go after Soul?

SPEAKER_00 21:37

But she could, she yeah, she would, but soul's not there anymore. And she has to focus on somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Okay, yeah, I see. But uh yeah, so yeah, so we're both picking Zarya or Zarya, yes, unless Soul Cheese. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Unless Soul Chase to win.

Women’s Title Triple Threat And Call Ups

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Yeah. But uh for the next match on the card, it's JC Jane versus Kendall Gray versus Lola Vice for the uh NXT Women's Championship. Greatest one, uh, they had a match on NXT and like she tapped right be or right after the pen, right? Or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

It was supposed to be the same time, but unless she tapped right before the three count, technically. If you're gonna be petty, I mean, you know, precise about it or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:33

She she technically tapped right before the the arm came down for three. So she didn't tap, she should have not say she should have, but if she had tapped right when the arm came down for three.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

But you can it's kind of precise to like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

Exactly, that's the point. So she kind of started tapping right before the arm as the arm's coming down for three. She was already tapping in. But but yeah, so that's that's that's the point I'm saying. But yeah, I don't know. What do you think about this one?

SPEAKER_02 23:04

Uh who's gonna win?

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Yeah, what do you think about this one?

SPEAKER_02 23:08

I I I don't know. I think, I think, I think you would look, I don't know, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think you were gonna say JC Jane's gonna go to the main run street.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Absolutely. Yeah, so um And I don't know if she's gonna attack the other player though. No, I Well Fallon, Fallon could easily go to make a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Oh yeah, yeah, definitely different.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

But the other one's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yeah, Laney Reid, I don't think she's gonna go up yet.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

But but what but you could you could do that because it happened before. When with uh with Paige, when she brought Mandy and uh Sonya up. So I'm saying like both of them were were fairly newer wrestlers too.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

So it it could it can help Lady by helping her tag along with them too. I mean, she's a good wrestler, she just needs to live more in the ring experience.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

But she yeah, she can easily go to the main roster. I mean, will she be a main event character, I mean, main event person yet? Maybe not. But I mean Yeah. You know what I mean? Like just think about when when they brought Bake Lynch and Charlotte up. Out of those three, you wouldn't say Baked Lynch had been the the the better wrestler of the three at the time.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

You know what I mean? Just like when you brought Naomi, the Naomi and um the and Tamina brought Sasha Banks up.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

People wouldn't have said Naomi would have been the best wrestler out of L3.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

And she is one of the best wrestlers out of L three. I mean, granted, Mr. Mercedes now used to be Sasha Banks, it's a great wrestler too, but Naomi might be the better, one of the best people wrestlers in the world.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

You know, when she's able to do like when that character she had before she before she left out. Top tier. Character of the year. Her and Tony Storm. Two great two best characters in the international last year. Easily. You know. But but yeah, um, I think JC Jane's gonna go to the main roster after this. I mean, she should go to the main roster. She's been the rest of the long enough, man. I mean, she's put the work in, the time in. Absolutely deserved to go to the main roster. Now the question is, does she take the rest of the group with her? Or does she turn on them, or it turns on her? Now it could turn on her.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Yeah, yeah, and then that's the reason why she loses.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Exactly. Or after the match.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

You know, it would be it would be pretty interesting if Kendall Gray won, because straight from Evolve, straight to the main championship, that's that's a big leap.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

It is. But she's proved, but she could the workman.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

She's she's a good wrestler. I mean, she's a she's a pure wrestler anyway. She's like a current type anyways. Like she was a she was a college wrestler.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

Like I think she wrestled guys in high school. So like she knows how to wrestle. You know what I mean? So it's not that big of a transition for her, you know, as far as that goes. But it also could not saying Rand's gonna turn on her, but it could give R it could give Rand the opportunity to turn on her because Rand's been wrestling way longer than Kenobrey.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

Yeah, which she has.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Absolutely. She's been wrestling way longer than Ken Bray. She's in the AEW for a minute. She had a couple squash matches there. She was independent wrestling for a while. She's wrestling for a little while. Rand Sinclair has been.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

And for Ken McGregor to come in and boom, all of a sudden gets a title shot and then win title. Ryan Sinclair got one title match it.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

And then put in the work in. That would give her the opportunity to be like, I'm I'm jealous of her. Or whatever the case is. Lola Vice. Little Lice can win too. She still has to feud with uh, she can still do a feud with Kalani or Jada Parker or whoever else. You know, I mean. So I definitely think JC J should lose. But Lola probably deserves it more because her transition from MMA to W, you know. I think Lola deserves it more than Kendall right now. Kindle has plenty of time to win it. You know, Kendall, she's not going anywhere. She's gonna be a main event fixture for years to come on NFT or main roster. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so I think Lola's gonna win this one. And I think it's gonna be some interference from if if if they don't take those those two girls with fatal, fatal influence, I'm gonna say fatal attraction, fatal influence with her, if they don't, if we'll know what happens today, if if they turn on her, they're not going with her. If she loses and there's no interference, then they're all going together.

SPEAKER_01 28:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

But if they turn on her, because they because it's been there on the it's been right right along for a while there now, but them turn on her the way she's been talking to them.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Yeah, like that she doesn't need them.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Exactly, stuff like that. So that could easily be the reason why she they turn on her.

SPEAKER_02 28:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

You know? But yeah, I think the old voice is gonna is gonna win this one.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Mm-hmm. Um I'm gonna say Ken O'Grimm. I I I just wanna like, you know, like say something different, throw something out there, you know.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Yeah, I understand.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

But uh yeah, so and I think she could win. I think he gives a very good, strong chance uh to win.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

She could. I mean, it's it's an opportunity.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Yeah. But um, that's where you're gonna save her that?

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yeah, I guess I got a little little vice winning now. I mean, Kevin Bright could win too, but I think Lil Vice deserves it more for me. I don't I don't think Jason Jane's gonna win. I think she's gonna go to the main role.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

No, yeah, I don't think she'll win.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

At least she's gonna lose it, and depending on how she loses it, it's gonna dictate if she takes the other members of Fanal Influence. That will work better for 'em. All three of them go up there together and become a group called nice.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

Is there? There's none. Because normally the women's judgment day.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

She got judgment day. She got Liv and Raquel and Roxanne.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

Yeah, but what I was gonna say, normally there's not like only like one of the only ones we've seen in a while is damage control. Cause like, think about it, think about it. Like, women's factions, they're normally not like a faction of their self, they're normally like a part of a men's faction.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Like Judgment Day. Like there there is three women in the world.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Kabuki Wars. When you had damage control, yeah, damage control with EO.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Damage control.

SPEAKER_00 29:45

When they broke away and had Kabuki Wars, there's just two of them, but it's still a group. I mean, still two of them, tag tech.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

It's more like a tag team then.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

I mean, still them too, but also uh Jade, Bianca, and Naomi, that might count.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Yep. And then you got Jade, Meechin, and uh.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

So you have some out there, but this would go good with them because it'll help it'll help them. If they feel with, you know, it would help JC go to the main roster because she'll feel with say it's like it's just like Jade, and then you got Meechin and Fallon, and he got the two new ones, not B Fab, not new, but she's still working in B Fab versus Laney.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

That's perfect right there.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

You know, so it's just depending on how they want to do it on that part of it. But I definitely think she's gonna lose. How she loses is gonna be the question. So, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Uh, but yeah, so um for the main event, it's uh Joe Hendry versus Ricky Saints versus Ethan Page versus Tony D'Angelo for the NXT Championship. And for this one, um I honestly I don't see Ethan Page or Ricky Saints winning this. Because I think they're gonna, you know, like break up. Not break up, but I think they're gonna have like conflicting, you know, conflicting in the match. Uh Tony D'Angelo, I I think he needs it the most, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Yeah, it works better with him having it, yep.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

But Joe Hendry, I mean, he didn't just win it, but it's it's kind of new. It's it's kind of new.

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Because I think he's the pace go to Maywasher too, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

You think so?

SPEAKER_00 31:25

I think he could.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Yeah, he already won. I mean, he doesn't have he doesn't have much to do.

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Exactly. He's done everything in the MCT. He's already proved he can talk. He's a good heel, he can win matches, he can wrestle. It's not much of a mission. Or Ricky Saints, really. I think Saints could too.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

You know, how how I think, I'm thinking whoever loses this, I think all of them could at a mini roster, including Tony D'Angelo, because he's been in for like so long.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

He's been there longer, I think. Yeah. He's been in NXT the longest. Because I think I'm this might be But he has a new character now, though. I think they I think they I think I think the new character has to brave a little bit more first to see if he gets over with the crowd. We know the old, the dud NXT works, but I don't know that works on the main roster. Because they've already had those characters before on the main roster. Like the Italian mobster guys. You know.

SPEAKER_02 32:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

So this new character yes has gotten rid of that character, and this is a new character. If this one right here works, yes, he'd be on, he'll be on the main roster too. But he wanted to see how this character hair works first.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

I I think I got it. I think I got it. So I'm thinking Tony D'Angelo wins this match, right? And all three of the other guys go to the main roster.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Well, Joe Henry, maybe not.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

No, he's good, no, he's definitely like That's a lot of yes, but think about it. He's he was at WrestleMania, Royal Rumble.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

True.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

Uh they they don't just do nothing with somebody who's been in both of their main shows.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

True.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

So I think he's going straight to the main roster.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Yeah. Well he just got signed, but yeah, I mean, it could.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

I mean, and he's like good with the crowd, good with the main roster crowd.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

And I guess you're right. Because then also you might want to move before before the crowd turns on him. Yeah. Since they're still cheering for him still.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Because eventually, like, I don't know why, but the main roster, they just seem to turn on people like that.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

Because they because you have you have to keep them. The thing about the main roster is there's so much talent.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

If you don't keep them invested, they don't while why are you here for? What what are you doing? Family cheer.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

You know, if you're not if you don't keep them invested, like look at the look at the Randy Orton. I know that was the wrong term, but Randy Orton is still getting cheered right now.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Dang down Cody's getting booed, like he did last year.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Cody's getting getting booed for a couple of years.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

I know, but I'm just saying that because that's that happens.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

You know, I mean, same thing happened to Roman. Roman got booed a bunch. And then he finally turned, heel, and now what they're doing, they're back cheering to them. They're back cheering for them. That's how the crowds are. So a lot of people like, it should turn them heel, turn them heel. Yeah, but then as soon as you turn heel, and then you then you then you cheer for them.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Again, I don't mean a sidetrack, but they I think that's what they need to do with Cody.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

They need to turn up Cody heel. They absolutely do.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

He needs to stop wearing them suits, like, like Stephanie told him, stop wearing them suits and and and get down to, I mean, you only got two weeks left for wrestling. You got two weeks left for WrestleMania rather. And and and he just now started getting attitude about himself. Yeah. I mean, but we'll talk about that when we get to the WrestleMania card later. But but yeah, uh, yeah, I think Tony Ganslow's gonna win too at this one. I mean, he just came back, like you said, new character, new attitude. If it works better for him to win, like I said, Ethan Page, Ricky Saints, don't need NFT anymore. Technically, not like you said before, none of them really, none of them do, none of the four do. But Tony Dis has a new character he's trying to get over first. See if it works. Joe Hendry, we know what he's about. Uh Ethan Page, same thing, and Ricky Saints, same thing.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

You know. Um, they all all four to remain ringing roster, but you can't bring all four to the main roster.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Yeah, one of them has to win.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

Yeah, somebody has to win. So, yeah, I think Ricky, uh not Ricky, uh Tony Gaslow is gonna be the one that that wins this.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Yeah.

Final Card Thoughts And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_02 35:20

But um, yes, if the car you want to say anything else, well, it should be pretty, it's a pretty sad cars. Yeah, seven seven total matches.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

If we count the pre-show match from just a regular show with six matches. Um but yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing uh what's going on. You know, how is it how they're gonna do the storylines moving forward? Um, you know, even after this, they got time before the Monday after WrestleMania when a lot of NFT guys get called up. So we'll see what happens after that. Um But yeah, looking forward to see you staying delivered this time around, see how it looks.

SPEAKER_02 35:57

But um, yeah. Same. I think it's looking like a pretty good card.

SPEAKER_00 36:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Every match seems like it's gonna go pretty good. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

All right, that's been said I've been the episode of Play Team Talk.