If Brock Squashes Oba We Riot

We run through our WrestleMania Sunday predictions and debate about which wins actually help WWE build the future. We get stuck on one big question: do you use WrestleMania to protect legends or to crown the next names up.

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Rapid Intro And Oba Rally

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Oba to win for Oba. I need Oba to win for Kofi. I need to win for Big E. I need you to win for Bobby Lashley and The Rock.

SPEAKER_01 0:15

Welcome to the Benedict Podcast Tag Team Talk.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

I'm Ben.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

I'm Bash. It's trying to list up your boots and hit them out with the Bennett Bash Podcast Tag Team Talk.

Oba Femi Vs Brock Lesnar

SPEAKER_00 0:22

All right, here we are for another one. Y'all know why I'm here. So we're going to be doing night night two or as they call it wrestling yes Sunday. So as always, we're going to do predictions with things going to happen, possibly storyline progressions. Just like yesterday, I think for the first hour was on ESPN too. Tonight, the first hour is going to be on ESPN. So yeah, let's get to it.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

And I know I didn't, I didn't, I know I didn't do it last time, but this this time I'm going to go six for six.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

I'm certain. You thought. You said that yesterday, but you know, we'll see how it happens today.

SPEAKER_01 0:59

In the first match on the card, it's Oba Fammy versus Brock Lesnar. And in my opinion, this is my this is my um match I'm most excited for.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Y'all see what I got on. For people listening, Oba Fammy's trade on all the way. That's what I'm going for. But we're gonna get into it. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

I mean, I want Oba Family to win too, but that's just not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

We're not we we are not gonna have any Oba slander right now. No Oba slander.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

That's not how Obey Sandler.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

What we're not gonna be doing is putting that in the universe saying Oprah Family's gonna lose. Oba Family's winning. And I need you to say this. Oba Family's gonna win. Say it. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on. We're not gonna be we're not gonna be saying Over Family's losing. We're not gonna even put that out there. We're not gonna put it out there.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Brock Lesnar is gonna win this match.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Alright, man, go ahead. Who you who you going for?

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

Your brothers in the win.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Well, I'm not going for him, but that's just what you're saying. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

No, no. That's not, no, no. You don't no no no. You pick who you that company brothers and pick brothers for the win.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Yeah, I want Oba to win, but I know Brock's gonna win.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

So who's your prediction for the win?

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Brock Lesnar.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Okay, go ahead now. Go ahead and finish what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Because Oba's been too dominant. It's gotta stop eventually.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

That's fine. Because you're over won already. Oba is gonna win. I need Oba. I want you Oba to win for Oba. I need Oba to win for Kofi. I need him to win for Big E. I need him to win Bobby Lashley and The Rock. I need to do it for The Rock. You know what I mean? I need him to do it for those guys. Because Brock Leslie has beat down every single champ that they've had. Just saying. I need Oba to get that get back.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Get that revenge on them guys. You remember? Beat Kofi in four seconds.

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Then he beat Bobby Lashley. Big Big E. He beat The Rock back in the day years ago. I need Ober to get that get back, and he's gonna get that get back tonight. So I'm going for Oba to win. I don't think that this is not gonna be no five-star wrestling, but this is gonna be a fight. We already know how it's gonna be. We don't need Brock to win this more. Brock, we need to get another new up and coming big man. There's not many of them out there right now. Not legitimate big man. I mean you got Omas, you got Oba. Who else? Exactly. Not many. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Like, like established?

SPEAKER_00 3:19

That's young. I'm just saying that it's even up and coming. How many have up and coming? Tallatonga. Tala Tonga, okay. That's three.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Exactly. That's three. That's it. As far as big guys go, you know. Um, so yeah, Oba is get a W. If if it don't, um I'll probably start watching. If I want to watch your rush, we can't we're not finna have Brock go up there and and and dominate Oba. We're not finna have that. I'm not finna have that. So you said you said if Brock squashes Oba, if he I I don't know if I can watch the rest of he squashes over, man. I don't know if I can do it.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

It would ruin the show.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

I don't know if I can do it, man. Especially the opening match too. Nah, I don't know. We need not. We on that uh we on that Ober feminist tonight. That's what we're doing. We're going for over tonight. Guaranteed.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Um that's just not gonna happen, but I mean, I don't know. But yeah, that's what you're gonna say for that?

SPEAKER_00 4:13

That's it. Don't say nothing else. We we know it's gonna happen.

Six Man Ladder Match Picks

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Alright, for the second match on the ESPN, it's Penta versus Javon Evans versus Dragon Lee versus JD McDonough versus Roset versus Rey Mysterio. And uh this didn't didn't really have a build, it's just apparently these matches happened on Main, no, not main event.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Main event. Yeah, main event. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

And then Rey Mysterio got added because he's Rey Mysterio.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

And then um Penta won the Larry match. Plus Penta is a good Lyder match specialist.

SPEAKER_01 4:40

Yeah. Yeah. I'm s I'm saying he's winning. I'm saying he's winning the ladder match.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I'm surprised they didn't add a uh triple A guy into this match, though.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Yeah, like Vikingo or something.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Or somebody died, yeah. I'm surprised they didn't just add another person in there. I mean, the more the merrier, really.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Yeah. But one of the El Grande's could've got in here.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

No, they're already feeding with each other. They wouldn't have interfered in the match.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Exactly. That's the whole point. To get them out the way.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah, but they wouldn't take a spot though. Somebody else could have had.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Nobody out of it. Nobody had it.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

That's what I'm saying. Nobody got it anyways.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

Alright, but yeah, I'm I'm saying Penta's winning. Because I don't the only people I see winning is Javon Evans and Penton. Realistically, I think.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

You got Penta retainer? Alright. Here's my here's my wild card in this one. Penta I like, yes. Is it too early for him to lose? Yes. But I it's it's hard for me to narrow it down. Um I'm gonna based on what I saw and what I've been saying. So Bulgarian Bruce's gonna win. Rusev's gonna win. He's gonna win.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

How's he gonna climb the ladder?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Hey.

unknown 5:57

Hey.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Big E climb the ladder. So Rusev climbed the ladder. Big E climbed it. So Rusev's gonna be gonna climb it.

SPEAKER_03 6:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

So yeah, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with the wild card and go to Rusev to win. Uh get his WrestleMania. I wanna I wanted Javon to win, but it might just be a little too early for him uh to win on main uh WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

I mean not too early, but not too early, but I mean I think I think Javon I think but I think Javon has the spot where they like tilt tilt over the ladder and goes through the table.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

Yeah, he's gonna do a crazy spot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

I think that's what happened.

SPEAKER_00 6:27

Him, Dragon Lee, and JD are gonna do a crazy spot. Uh that's gonna put them out the match.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Oh yeah, especially JD.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Yeah, and then Dragon Lee too.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

So but yeah, uh yeah, I got Rusev to wear in this one. Um this should be a good this this first hour should be a real good showcase for for non-wrestling fans to kind of see, you know, you got two big guys, is it gonna be just a a fight, and then you got hot flyers. Two complete opposite matches that should be pretty entertaining on both ends, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

But yeah, I'm saying Penta, you're saying Rusev?

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Well, um that's probably one for one. Probably one.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Two two and all. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

But for the third match on the card, it's uh the demon Finn Balor versus Dirty Dom. And I mean, they were already teasing at the demon, why announce it? Like, why put him on the box?

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Yeah, I I wish they hadn't announced that. I wish they had just teased. Like just teased, okay, uh, I'm bringing I'm bringing something else too. Is it is he bringing the demon out?

unknown 7:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

And then Dominic, like, what's he talking about? You know, he's you know, because he cause even finished said the demon was dead before. So if he had just like teased it and been like, you know, and then Dominic's like, he's not bringing him back because he said it was dead. He can't bring him back.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

And then he's like, Yeah, and like instead of saying like the demon, like just.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Just like still say Finn Balor. Yeah, and he's on the render, like Yeah, just say Finn Balor, and then boom, the demon music hit. Then that's when the crowd goes wild, Michael Cole, like, oh boy, Dominic, you in you in for it now. Yeah. You know, kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like, you could have still did the vignette tease like they did before, but not confirm that just like, oh, he might be bringing Demon back. We're not sure yet. You know.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

But uh I I feel like I want to see like new, uh like a new look for the demon, though, like slightly new look.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Yeah. I think it would be a slightly new look. I mean, it's gonna still probably be the same type of face paint. I don't know if it's gonna be the same outfit color and all that, maybe. We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

He might match WrestleMania with the black and white. He might do something like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Yeah, he could. Yeah. But I mean he didn't have a you didn't watch him on independent on the independent scene, but he did have a lot of various different face paints. He he he dressed, he uh did face paint in different characters sometimes, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

So but yeah. So I'm saying the demon to win because like if he loses to Dominic Mysterio, like that's just the the demon gave him.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

You don't you don't bring the demon out to lose like that to Dominic. I mean, I mean three years. That's what I'm saying. That's why he hadn't brought it back out. Yeah. I think he put it up because he didn't want the demon lore to lose like that. You know what I mean? You don't want to keep back the demon lose because after that's like it's kind of like Bray Wyatt. When he brought the fiend out, you knew what was gonna be going on.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Mm-hmm. You know? And then he got killed by Goldberg.

SPEAKER_00 9:23

Exactly. Then that should have been just a Bray Wyatt character itself. That should have been the the regular suit, you know, uh sweater vest, yeah. Bray Wyatt in that match. If you're gonna do it that way, that should have just been the the regular Bray Watt, and that way you can say, oh, okay, I get it. He didn't beat the fiend though. And that way he still get the fiend mystique and you know what I mean? So he started the fiend did to Seth Rollins. I mean, they stopped the match, which I'm just gonna.

SPEAKER_01 9:49

In a hell in a cell though.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

I mean Isn't that the whole point?

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Yeah. But when he can't continue, technically.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Just pin him.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

But if you get unconscious and get choked out as well. So it's also, I think what they stopped it for is because Seth Rollins wasn't conscious anymore. That's the same thing as is putting somebody to sleep. It's a knockout. They used to have it on WWD uh 2K, or was it 2K or might have been on 42K, but it's like smack the difference is wrong and stuff like that. They used to have a knockout feature. Well, it's like pin, submission, or the knockout.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

You you can do that in 2K. Like you can add that feature.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

That's what I'm saying. But they used to HB is just a feature automatically that you took it off.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

That if you can do be somebody down long enough and then you do like a certain move on, it can knock them out, and it might match is over too. You know. But but who do you got winning, Don?

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Uh the Demon.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

Oh, okay. Yeah, I got the Demon. I got Demon too. I just don't see I just don't see a demon fan battle who's in that WrestleMania for the first first time back in three years. Nah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not seeing it.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

Yeah, I'm not seeing that one. So it should be a good match, though. Uh you think any uh shenanigans have been this fight? Because we know JD's gonna be probably beat up from that letter match. Um I don't think Don't get any help. I mean, or you think something or you or or or do you or do or are we thinking uh anything with the with the women of Judgment Day?

SPEAKER_01 11:14

I mean, I was saying that Roxanne maybe could like if Liv's trying to come out, Rocksane could maybe either stop her or inadvertently stop her.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

You know? Like to start to start doing that angle.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Yeah, and yeah, not really show it, but like show it kind of thing. Like not her intentionally do it, but like subtly stop her from going out there.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

Yeah, like I I don't know how to do that, but like like you know where it's not it doesn't look like it's like on purpose.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's an accident.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

But yeah, so I'm I'm thinking that Demon's winning.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Yeah, that's why I got to win too.

Sami Zayn Vs Trick Williams Debate

SPEAKER_01 11:44

All right. And for the next match on the car, it's Sam Zayn versus Trick Williams.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

What oh, um, but yeah, we were talking about sorry, go back over to you. The Ober Brock. That's probably the best bill of WrestleMania weekend so far.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

As far as the build-up to the match, that's probably been the best bill. I was talking about yesterday with the with uh Stephanie and Liv and then um Jacob and Drew. Jacob and Drew being two and three. This is my number one for sure, of being the best bill, you know, in the last few weeks.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

You know, but anyway, so uh go ahead and get back to it.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yeah, Samoy's name versus Trick Williams with L Little Yachty A.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

The gingerbread man. Same thing. Versus Trick Will.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

You think Little Yachty comes out in that gingerbread man suit?

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Uh I think he and I I think he's there in some capacity. Um he said he had an entrance, so maybe he's maybe he's back for the entrance. Because you know, remember Trick Williams said he messed up my entrance. So maybe, maybe they still use Lily for that. Maybe. Maybe he comes out in neck brace or something like that, to kind of feed on the trying to sell the the Uva kick.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

No, no, that wasn't him.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

No, but he did get a little kick the week before, remember? Oh, yeah. That's why he was there last week.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

So it's like he would thought he was gonna be a gingerbread band, but he's selling the full UVA kick. You know, he's not a wrestler, so that re that move should take him out.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Like he's not a wrestler, so that move should take him out. He's not being there next week. Or if he had been on there, been there in a neck breaks or something.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Same as saying it's taking out anybody.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

Yeah. He's doing kind of what Cody's been doing.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Finally pulling the trigger when uh when it comes down to it instead of instead of taking a loss.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Well, Cody, well, like Cody, like, they did it, they did a double turn and then just turn Randy right back.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Yeah, it's like a double and then reverse back, like side go back.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Yeah, like like that's just then like he just low blowed him over.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

But we'll see how Cody, if Cody used a new, this is a new persona for him.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Yeah, I think he's just gonna be like, like, takes advantage of it.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

Like, yeah, we'll see if this right here, we'll see on again. He'll be there. I don't know if he'd be there on Monday.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

No, not on Monday. Probably.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

He might though. He might. But Friday for sure, he might be. I mean, he was there last Monday, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_01 13:46

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

So he might be there.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

No, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:49

And then Stephen Punk was on Friday. So he might be there.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

I mean, because there's WrestleMania after Monday. I mean, the the Monday after WrestleMania rather, and maybe some call-ups, maybe. Uh people talking about Joe Henry and Sol Ruka and um JC J I think is definitely getting called up for sure.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um Sol Ruka, I think he stays a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

Well, I think she has a few she has the la well, she has the last one to standing match with Zarya. They they got Laz Wonder Standing match on Wednesday. And that's gonna probably be take her out and have her go to the main roster. And then Joe Hendrick's gonna probably get taken out by Keanu that's gonna knock knock him off of NXT. See what I'm saying? So that's two people gone right there, and then the way the way um JC's been getting beat up and and then fouling and um what's the other one? Langney been been getting ran off and chased off.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

There you go. She's by herself now. So we'll see how that works. Maybe they turn on her. And they attack her and and that rock her off.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

But but anyways, yeah, yeah. Back to the uh gingerbread man. What's what's up with him?

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Um, well, he's gonna lose.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Obviously.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yeah. I mean, hopefully he loses.

SPEAKER_00 15:04

The whole fail I I get they're trying to put Sami Zayn on WrestleMania. They should just add them to the latter match.

SPEAKER_03 15:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

And that way you keep Carmelo and Trick. That's just that's similar to the Cody and Randy without the years. I mean, without the 20 years, it's like five years of them knowing each other. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I th and I think that I want to say he knew each other on independent scene too. I think Trick Williams wrestled for a couple years on independent wrestling, independent scene before. And I know Carmelo did for sure. And then I think Trick Williams did, that's what he said on the podcast I was telling the day. He was on the independent wrestling singing for a while before he got signed with WWE. But he didn't say how long, so I'm not sure how long he was on there before he got signed.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

But um, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

That that right there wrote itself. And now I'm hoping they save that for maybe backlash or something. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

Wishful thinking, probably backlash.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

But it would have been great to see both of them guys on WrestleMania because this match didn't need the um US title, really. No, but but what I'm saying is it did because Carmelo Hayes was the champion.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

Yeah, they could they could have made it like triple threat or something.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Or they could have did Trick Wheels versus Carmelo.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

They could have done that. I mean, Trick Wings already had a match against the champion, anyways. And that was gonna be Carmelo Hayes, but then 70 Zayn got a match. And then he ended up beating them. So that was supposed to be Trick Williams versus Carmelo. And the fans don't like that because of the way Carmelo and Dragonoff have held down the U.S. championship belt.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

And then Carmelo got another chance and still lost.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Exactly. But Trick Williams kind of, I mean nothing kind of interfered in that one. Uh, well, Sammy kind of, he not cheated, but he took advantage of Carmelo and he being messed up. But what I'm saying is people wanted to see Trick versus Carmelo at WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_03 16:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

I mean, that right there is a story line. That's that's a WrestleMania tight match right there. They were a tag team NXT, and they broke away because Carmelo attacked Trick, and then Trick becomes the hottest thing in wrestling, comes to the main roster, takes over, and then now Carmelo's jealous of him because Carmelo was the guy. And now he's not anymore called Trick's there. Yeah. It writes itself. Plus, it's personal. You didn't have to do too much.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

I mean, hopefully you hopefully they run this back with him and after Trick wins. Uh hopefully they run it back with him and Carmelo, and we can see them kind of interact with each other and get that rematch. Because Carmelo did say he he he got the winner. So we'll see how that goes. Then whatever is going on with Ilya, we'll see about that one. If he's going to the main main uh main event scene or or what. He should, I mean. He should. Elo should definitely be going to the main event. He should definitely be not gonna say challenging Roman, but he should be looking towards that. You know, or see on the other.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

I think he goes after the direction of Cody, probably. Because I think Roman's too, like, well we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Well, I don't know, we'll see how that goes. But um, yeah, Trick Williams. I'm curious to see if if Lou Yachty would be there um or not. But yeah, I got Trick Williams definitely winning the uh US championship against the gingerbread man.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

But yeah, um, yeah, I I have I've got trick winning too.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

All right. Oh, that's pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

I wanna I wonder if he's gonna use the the gingerbread man song that him and Yahty did.

SPEAKER_01 18:22

Yeah, he could.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

He could, uh a snippet of it. That's the whole thing. Because you gotta do the whoop that trick. Yeah. I wonder if it's gonna be like the beginning of it, like the gingerbread man song. Yeah. And then you you stop it, then you start with the trick Williams thing. But it's gonna be a lot. He's gonna probably he might get between him and CM Punk, it's gonna be close on who gets the biggest invasion.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

No, no, no, no. I think you're picking the wrong person. I think Obaba Femi gets the loudest.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

Oh, you're right. I think y'all about Oba. It's right. And it's gonna be early too, so hopefully everybody's in the arena when Oba and Brock wrestle.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Yeah, I I think I think he gets the loudest pop by far.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah. Oba should get well, Oba, Trick, Rhea, CM Punk. That's gonna be a top four the whole weekend, I think.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Um, so we'll see you. I like I say, yeah, I forgot about Oba, but you're right, Oba does get the biggest ovation. But Trick's been getting loud too, and we know Rhea does it, and then CM Punk because the music and all that.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

So we'll see. But um, but yeah, Trick Wiggins. I thought yeah, Trick Wiggins beating Jinger Batman on that one.

Jade Vs Rhea And Division Problems

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Yep, same.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

But all right, for the next match on the card, it's Jade versus Riyadh Ripley for the WWE Women's Championship.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Yep. Deal could have been better on this one, kind of like. Yeah, a lot better. Kind of like the Cody and Randy. It could have he had a lot more to work with. I mean, they were feuding offline on X at one point in time.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Yeah, and they didn't get into that really.

SPEAKER_00 19:41

They didn't even bring it up. I would I will at least brought it up.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

Well, they said Rhea says social media, but that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

They should have brought it up a little bit because they were talking about they kind of brought it up a little bit at first with uh Jay saying she's stronger and bigger and faster and all. But then it's like you could have did more with that, you know. But maybe maybe they didn't want to get into like bodies and stuff. Yeah, you know, because they gets kind of a slippery slope sometimes. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

But um so I think I would have said Jade to win so she could go into a matchup with Bianca. But if you watch uh Saturday, uh she's pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Bianca's out for about at minimum, at minimum a year.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

Probably it's closer or two. It all just depends on how their body recovers. You know, um I think her finger's good now though. Yeah, her finger's probably good now.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Um it was it was wrapped up, but not like seriously wrapped up.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Yeah, um, I mean, the thing, like, you know, when when whenever nine months minimum to have the baby, and then you got six plus months to recover, you know, get your get back right, get back in the gym, get back in shape, and all that kind of stuff. So that's why some of them might take a little bit longer than that, year and a half, two years. Like Alex, Alexa took, I think, two years off. I think Becky took what a year and a half off, I think. Um so yeah, we'll see how um how Naomi comes back. If Naomi comes back this year or not.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

I I I'm thinking if she doesn't come back this year, she'll come back at Rory Rumble next year.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

So do you know where Rumble is next year yet? They announced that yet.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Oh no, I I don't know where it is actually. I don't know where I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

I don't know if they announced that yet.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

No, I don't depend on it.

SPEAKER_00 21:20

I know they announced WrestleMania. Well, you know it's gonna be in Saudi on if you knew that, all right?

SPEAKER_03 21:24

No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 21:25

But uh But yeah, I don't know if they they had announced uh Rory Rumble, I don't think yet. So but I I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna guess the Elmy comes back at Roy Rumble. That's what I'm guessing. But um, but yeah. Uh who you got winning this one?

SPEAKER_01 21:38

Uh Oh yeah. It's coming back to me. I I know I was talking about this earlier. Um I think Eo Scott is gonna attack Ray Ripley and Cosford in the match.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Oh, you think so?

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Uh and Jay Crystal.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

But then but then that makes but then that makes it the the the EO versus uh Oscar match.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

Plus they're gonna wrestle and just the way they've been building it up. Oscar and E are gonna wrestle probably at Backlash, probably.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

No, no, I don't think backlash. I don't think they get on a PLE.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

They have to. Yes, absolutely. I mean backlash is like backlash is only like a few months, like a few weeks. Yeah. It's like three weeks after after this weekend. So it's only like two, two or two or three, two or three rolls, and or two or three smackdowns rather, and you're and you're at backlash. You know? So that's what I think, anyways.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

But yeah, either way, I think Jade's retaining.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

You think Jade's gonna retain?

SPEAKER_01 22:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Why do you think that?

SPEAKER_01 22:39

Cuz I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

I mean, yeah, I mean, I would have I would have definitely said Jade had Bianca. Because remember, we were talking about that when Bianca came out, I was like, why is he coming out now? And not at the Jaden um Rhea match. And then coming out should be pregnant. Congrats to her and Taz, by the way. But um, but yeah, I thought when I saw her coming out, I was like, that's weird. Why is she coming out this early? When she could she should be coming out after the winner of the Jaden Rhea match.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

But then I thought she was announcing she was like held or clean.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

That's what I thought she was doing at first, you know. Um so and then, you know, she announced she's pregnant, and so now we know she's not gonna be there tomorrow, or she could be there tomorrow, but she we know she's not gonna be wrestling anytime. So then the J versus Both gonna have to wait a little bit longer to have that match. Um so, but but the thing is, where does any of them go after this? There's there's not many, there's not much women on SmackDown like that. You gotta build some women up. I mean, you got Jordan Grace, you got Julia, but they haven't been building her up right.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

You know, uh Chelsea Green should Chelsea Green is one of the most underrated wrestlers in this period. Not even men or women. She's one of the most underrated by far. She should definitely be in that title picture. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yeah, but she's she's not anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

She does everything they ask her to do and does a great job at everything.

SPEAKER_03 23:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

You know what I mean? Like people like that should be rewarded for for being that good. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what, you know she can hold a belt and you know the fans enjoy her. Give her the belt while she's still while the fans still enjoyed.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

She's like, Yeah, if you wait too much, she's gonna start getting booed like Cody. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 24:15

If you wait too long, it's gonna be too late. You gotta get that window. So if I'm I'm I'm letting Chelsea go at SummerSlam. Well, we know it's gonna be the SummerSlam, man. We Yeah We We know where SummerSlam is at, right? We know who's from who's from there.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

We know who's gonna get the women's title match, probably more likely. Tiffany Stratton.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

She might be the champion walking into it.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

No, she'll probably win it there because she's in her hometown. She's from there.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, but she doesn't need it though.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

But she's in her hometown, and it may, or she's gonna be at least being a match, probably. For either the U.S. belt or you know, or the uh women's belt.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:56

But um, but yeah, this is a horror one because I just don't know where we go after this. Because where do we go with Rhea? Because who's there to challenge Rhea outside of Jade again? I mean, you you can put Meechin. Meachin should be up there too. She's another good wrestler who doesn't get the respect she deserves. Um Jordan Grace is up there. Julia's has definitely not been used right at all.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Um you got the women in you got the women in the division, but they haven't been pushing them to make them to make them feel like they can win. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Because like if they go after Jade, it feels like they're just gonna lose.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Get squashed, yeah. That's what it feels like. Because they're building Jade up too strong. And and maybe, maybe they were waiting on Bianca to come back.

SPEAKER_03 25:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

And now, because they've they're they put all their all their chips in one bag with Bianca, now she can't wrestle. Now where do you go? There's nowhere free to go now. You've been building Jade up, and there's only one woman who can beat Jade, and then now that person's out for the next year or two. You know, so um, but yeah, with Rhea, where does Rhea go after this? When she wins, where does she go?

SPEAKER_01 26:01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

Well, she probably if the if the uh women's tag team division like kind of separates a little bit, we might get something there, but so you think Rhea's gonna win or that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Uh if you had to ask me yesterday, I would have told you Jade. Because Bianca would Bianca was gonna be back.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

And it's gonna challenge Jade. Now that Bianca's is is out. I don't know now. That's that's the hard part now. Um maybe Rhea. I don't know if I want to see.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

That's your official pick or that's the thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

I don't know if I want to see Rhea win again.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

I don't, I don't.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

That's the thing. Like, I mean, I'm not gonna say she no, she's a draw, don't get me wrong. But she doesn't need the belt right now.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

You know what I mean? She can like like Roman. Roman went along when he came back, he didn't get he didn't go straight for the belt. He had uh fuse first.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

You know, so he didn't need the belt, you know. I mean he's in the he's in WrestleMania now, but this is his first title match since he's been back.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

So with Rhea, she's had the belt already. She lost it. Now, okay, let's let Jay run with it, see what she can do with it. Uh maybe have her lose that SummerSlam or something like that, or whatever the case is. See what she does with it, but they need to get other women that's bona fide threats that we can legit think they got a chance to beat them. Because right now there's there's not many right now at all, if any on on the SmackDown roster.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

There's more on the main roster, there's more on the raw roster. Like said, you got Charlotte, you got Alexa, you got Lash and I now because they lost. I mean, Bailey and Lyra. That's yeah, that's a bunch of women right there.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah, but then the tag division is just over.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

It was already over. It's like the before. They added them together to make it like that, to get them a match on WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

You see what I'm saying? But you have, you can, you can bring up tag teams. You can make a tag team strong.

SPEAKER_03 28:00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 28:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

Like you can get a tag team, you know? Yeah. I mean, but it's just about getting the right ones, you know? And man, this is a tough one. You know what forget it. I'm going with J. I'm going with J.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Alright. So that's that's what you have for that.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Alright, so for the main event, it's CM Punk versus Roman Reigns for the World Heavyweight Championship. And this one, um, it's been it's been alright. You know, it's been, I think, I think it's yeah, it's definitely been better built than Cody and Randy.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

I'll say that.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

And they're go and they're and they're kind of going into the history, but not as much as I would like to.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

I mean, yeah, they should, they should have done more SHIEL stuff, um, more about CM Punk leaving and then coming back. You know, he left high and dry.

SPEAKER_03 28:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

They had to build up Roman and Seth and Dean or John Moxley now. You had to build these guys now. While CM Punk was at the top, he decided to leave just like that.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:08

And left a championship high. And, you know, you said John Cena though, but John Cena was kind of doing more Hollywood stuff. You know, Randy was injured and stuff like that. Cody was Stardust, so he wasn't in the picture yet. You know, he didn't have a lot of main event guys. Well, you did, but some of them just didn't. They were trying to put certain guys and they just didn't. You know what I mean? Yeah. So by him leaving, you you had an opening and see him, and and uh Roman Reigns took that and ran with it. He became the new draw.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

He became the new rock, Stone Cold, Triple H.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Undertaker.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Yeah, but they started they started hating him too.

SPEAKER_00 29:42

They started because he got because because they waited to him put the belt on him. When I remember when he lost the Royal Rumble, uh, maybe in Del Rio, maybe. Alberto won it, I think, that year. I think it was that year Alberto won. It was him and Roman Reigns in the last in the end. And people were cheering for Roman Reigns and he lost it.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:02

The next year, people hated Roman Reigns.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Because nobody wanted to see him no more.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:06

And then he won and they got booed.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Because it was one year too late.

SPEAKER_03 30:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

And so had they put on the belt the year before that, maybe he wasn't ready for it. But the fans wanted it. You know. I think Alberto ended up winning that year and when I think he won WrestleMania that year too, I believe. So, I mean, we get it. But but what I'm saying is, this yeah, this feud has been pretty good. Um, it's not the best feud on the car, but probably three, maybe, two?

SPEAKER_01 30:41

On the on this night?

SPEAKER_00 30:42

On this night, yeah, because Demon and Demon and the Demon and Dominus a good build-up. Because we know what they're doing. Sammy and Trick has been good, it's been funny, but it's been good.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Because nobody likes Sammy. People are hating Sammy right now because of what he did to Carmelo.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Okay, so my problem with uh back to Sammy's in there a little bit, but like his promos have been one dimension, like, like, what did I do? Like, he hasn't been any, like, except what did I do?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Yeah. I mean, and he didn't do anything technically.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

So that's the problem. If you think about it, he didn't do anything really. He he he got he opened, he got an open challenge and he won.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

That's that's the problem with open challenges. That's why you don't do them. That's why the best wrestlers don't do them.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

Because you have a open challenge every week means you eventually gonna lose.

SPEAKER_03 31:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

You're eventually gonna lose that match.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

You see what I'm saying? And that's what happened. Carmelo betted one time too many and he missed.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

And he lost.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Okay. He shouldn't have had the open challenge. He should have not, he should have closed it down and got ready for WrestleMania. But being the fighting champ that he is, he decided to do open challenge. Sammy came out. Sammy won. Not gonna say Ferris Recall, Trek didn't interfere in the match. But Sammy won. Carmelo got his rematch and lost. So Sammy technically didn't do anything wrong, but nobody wanted Sammy to be the champion. They wanted Carmelo Hayes to be the in Trick Williams to wrestle. See, had it, I think had it not been Trick Williams and meant somebody else, it might not have been a big of an issue. But people want to see Trick versus Carmelo. Because the match they had NXT.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

You take NXT and put it on the main roster. I mean, hey, look at this, look at this card. You got one, two, three, four, was it one, two, three, four, five, six, seven people in this car that was in access at some point in time. And that and who was Roman. So he got Oba Dragon League, JD, Drake Williams, Rhea, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Don was in there too, remember?

SPEAKER_00 33:11

Yeah, but he didn't start there. He started in Roman. Um Trink Williams, Rhea, and Roman. It was all the niggas teams at some point in time.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

You see what I'm saying? And so just that right there alone, half half of this card is NXT guys.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:32

And and people watch XT. Not everybody, but the good the rest of the real wrestling fans watch XT. You know what I mean? And so people want to see that Trick Williams versus Carmelo Hayes on the main on the main roster.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

At WrestleMania Vall Nights. I mean, yeah, it's going to still be a good match if they put it on Backlash or Money in the Bank or SummerSlam or wherever they put it.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

But then Carmilla doesn't get his WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

Exactly. And he's been there putting working in.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

He deserves it, but he deserves it.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

Absolutely deserves it. But sometimes you gotta sometimes it's just not your turn yet. I hate to say like this sometimes, sometimes it's just dying the cards for you.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

But hopefully Carmelo gets his turn to be at WrestleMania to put on for WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Him, him and Solo need to get WrestleMania.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

Solo hadn't had a WrestleMania. He hadn't had a WrestleMania match yet.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Yeah. Has Carmelo? I don't think Carmelo has either.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

It's the first WrestleMania, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 34:20

It is? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Or did he debute last WrestleMania? Was it last WrestleMania or after WrestleMania when he debuted? I don't know if he did it.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

It was at the draft. I don't know what time the draft is.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Yeah, Cameron Breather. It was either right before WrestleMania or after WrestleMania. But so even if it was right before he didn't have no time to build up yet. So he wasn't supposed to be there yet.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

So but yeah, um this this yeah, back to the Roman and CM Punk. This, I mean, we know what they do. CM Punk, one of the best talkers ever. They're a microphone in wrestling. Roman Reigns, one of the biggest stars ever in the history of wrestling. Um, I mean, it's a reason why he's on talk shows and doing all that kind of stuff, you know? I mean, he's the guy for right now. And he's gonna do it as long as he wants to. Um, I wish they would let Roman talk like he does on the on the vlogs in the ring.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Because that Roman Reigns is that Roman Reigns is entertaining.

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

You know what I'm saying? When he just talking normal, that Roman Reigns makes it entertaining.

SPEAKER_03 35:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

You know what I'm saying? But yeah, so I don't know, man. Uh, who do you got?

SPEAKER_01 35:27

Um I I got Roman Reigns to win.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

Roman Reigns to win. Yeah, um, I wonder if if CM Punk's gonna take some time off too, because I know um AJ Lee said she's taking some time off. She didn't say how long, but it sounded like she's gonna take some time off, and I wonder if CM Punk's gonna go along with her and take time off too, and they just and they just relax and recover. Because both of them are older.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

You know, CM Punk's what 47, I think. AJ Lee's 30, 35-ish, 36 around there. So, I mean, they kind of recover, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, and they can. They got they got they got opportunity to do that. Most people can't recover like that. Most people gotta go back to Raw and wrestle uh tomorrow Monday. You know, but it is what it is. Uh I mean, I'm a CM Punk fan, obviously, but Roman is it if you had asked me last year, I would have said no.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Were that Roman's gonna win?

SPEAKER_00 36:38

No, that Roman shouldn't have the belt. But the fact that Roman came back and his first match wasn't for the belt, okay.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Now it's time to give him the belt. Because he didn't have it for the longest. He came back and his first match wasn't for the belt. Hey, at WrestleMania last year, that wasn't for the belt, was it?

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Yeah, no, no, it wasn't. It was just on the last match.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

So even at WrestleMania last year, it wasn't for the belt. I think that would have been the first match at WrestleMania wasn't for a belt. Besides the SHIELD, besides him with the Shield. I think this might have been his first WrestleMania singles match that wasn't a bill on the line, whether it'd be in the United States or um World Championship. And so last WrestleMania, no belt. This WrestleMania, and he lost that match too. Several said no winning that. Because that's when he became joined with Carl Heyman.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Um this WrestleMania, okay. I can say first, I can say now, okay, give it to Roman Reigns. Let him let him see what he can do with it now, with the fans on his side right now. Like I said, do it now while the fans still like Roman Reigns. While you're still cheering for him, do it right now. Because this new tribal chief thing is working. So the one the OTC that's working right now. So while he's doing that, give him the belt right now and let's see what the fans do. You can always have him lose at SummerSlam.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

So whoever you want to. You know what I mean? So yeah, we'll see. Uh we'll see how it goes. But yeah, I got room rights to win.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Yeah, same.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

So um once again, 6 o'clock, uh Eastern, uh, I think it's three Pacific time. Uh first hour, ESPN. So should be good. First hour. Yeah, I mean, y'all know who I'm rolling with on first hour. Like I said, if Oba lose, I might not watch the rest of it. I don't know how I feel about that. And he better not get squashed. If Oba loses, I'll take him losing. You know what? I'm not gonna say that. Oba's winning. I'm not gonna say if he loses nothing. Ain't no if nothing about it. Oba's gonna win. That's all I'm gonna say about that. All right. Oba's gonna be Brock, because we don't need Brock to win no more. We we we're good. We're good on Brock. Brock is still a draw. He don't need to win, he's still a Brock Lester. All right, cool. Boom. Anything else?

SPEAKER_03 38:54

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

Alright, that being said, Oba Femi's gonna win again. Alright, I'm Ben.

SPEAKER_03 38:59

I'm back.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Alright, no episode of Tax.