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E020 - The Courage Code with Leisse Wilcox

September 29, 2025 • Sabrina Greer • Season 2 • Episode 20

✨ Episode Summary

In this episode of The Rough Draft Podcast, Sabrina welcomes bestselling author, keynote speaker, and leadership coach Leisse Wilcox as she launches her third book, The Courage Code. Known as “the secret weapon of the C-Suite,” Leisse shares what it truly means to lead with courage—not as a badge of honor but as a choice we all have, especially in times of adversity.

Together, they explore how courage and emotional intelligence shape the future of leadership, parenting, and human connection in a rapidly changing, AI-driven world. Leisse’s story-driven, neuroscience-backed insights offer practical tools to communicate, connect, and lead—at work and at home.

🔑 What You’ll Learn

Why courage often comes from adversity—and how to access it on purpose
The five core components of emotional intelligence that future-proof leaders and parents
How COVID, tech, and AI have reshaped our relationships—and how to reclaim real human connection
Why family dinners might just be the secret to raising confident, communicative kids
Practical, actionable strategies from The Courage Code to transform the way we work, live, and lead

📚 About the Guest

Leisse Wilcox doesn’t just coach leaders—she is one.

As Chief People Officer of a leading infrastructure business with over 20 years of experience speaking and coaching executives around the world, Leisse transforms leadership by helping you become the leader everyone wants to work with.

Known as “the Secret Weapon of the C-Suite” and “the Marie Kondo of Your Unconscious,” she helps ambitious leaders cut through the mental clutter, lead with courage, and create workplaces people are excited to be part of.

An expert in behavioral change, resilience, and high-performance leadership and certified Leadership, Executive, and Organizational Development Coach, Leisse is an award-winning speaker, twice bestselling author, and Forbes contributor trusted by brands like TD, AGF, and Aviva, championing confident communication, resilience, and human-centered leadership that drives results and culture at the same time.

When she’s not building the future of work or coaching leaders to own the room, she’s road-tripping for tacos, listening to Taylor Swift with her three daughters, or binge-watching HBO with her dog.