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Patti, Puddings, and the Parotid
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This week, we start with the legendary Patti LaBelle and discuss her being a flamboyant gay icon and hear about her recent pearls of wisdom she shared on Julia Louis-Dreyfus' podcast, "Wiser Than Me." Plus, Patti travels with her spice cabinet. Then we wonder what the Boyz in Perth thinks about the peculiar "Devil's Marbles" in Northern Australia. Also, Anne's face is a problem at the moment —who knew parotid glands could be so captivating?
As the episode rolls on, we embrace the lively worlds of entertainment and culinary arts. If you're feeling those post-holiday blues, we have just the remedy: sticky toffee pudding. Seriously, it's awesome.
We couldn't resist a humorous exploration of today's LGBTQ+ rights landscape, where comedians Anthony Jeselnik and Fortune Feimster give us much-needed laughs. There's a nod to nostalgia with Massachusetts' blue laws and a celebration of new retail arrivals on Cape Cod. But that's not all! Get the scoop on exciting entertainment news, from the much-anticipated A24 film "Queer" to intriguing portrayals in "A Complete Unknown" and "Maria." Whether it's the nuances of language or the joy of collecting quirky merchandise, we bring a playful yet thoughtful tapestry of topics that promise to entertain and enlighten. And by promise we mean, "perhaps might."
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Thank you. Used to be that I believed in love. It's been a long time since I've had that feeling. I could love someone, I could trust someone.
Speaker 2Hello, I said I'd never let nobody near my heart again. Welcome to the Ann Levine Show. This is Ann Levine and this show is Ann Levine, and this show is coming to you from WOMR 92.1 FM in Provincetown Massachusetts.
Speaker 3That's right on WFMR 91.3 FM Orleans and we're streaming worldwide at WOMRorg 24-7, 365.
Speaker 2And that's Michael over there.
Speaker 3Hello, and this is Patti LaBelle.
Speaker 2What's the name of this song?
Speaker 3If you Ask Me To, I Would Tell you it's called. If you Ask Me To.
Speaker 2Okay, but you said, if you ask me to, I would tell you. Yeah, and I'm sitting here thinking I think I just asked me to. Yeah, you too. And I'm rewinding in my mind yeah, anyway, yeah, don't bother. I'm notwinding in my mind. Yeah, anyway, yeah, don't bother, I'm not going to bother. Okay, there's a huge. You all right, I am all right. There's a huge baked potato sitting in a rock, on a rock somewhere near Melbourne, australia.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I just want to mention that now our friends, you mean the devil's marbles.
Speaker 3Yeah, the devil's nutsack in northern australia is that what it is?
Speaker 2yeah, well, okay that's what that photograph was, yeah I was gonna ask our friends in australia to to fill us in, but maybe they do have more to say about it.
Speaker 3It's quite possible About If they've been up there About the devil's testes.
Speaker 2Yeah, patti LaBelle. Why am I in mind of Patti LaBelle? If you ask me, mm-hmm, I could tell you. Is that what? If you ask me, I could tell you, is that what? If you ask me to, if you ask me to, I could tell you, yeah, I'm in mind of her because Julia Louis-Dreyfus, who does a podcast called Wiser Than Me, right, and I have talked about it on this show before.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, we've talked, about it.
Speaker 2There are some who unfortunately have not gotten on the bandwagon.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, you know, they'll come around eventually and they'll kick themselves for.
Speaker 2Well, only if I keep reminding them, don't you think?
Speaker 3Well, yeah, but that's what you're doing, you know, in case people don't know, that's what we do here. We remind you to do stuff. Right Like watch television programs and listen to music and watch films and stuff like that.
Speaker 1Podcasts.
Speaker 3Generally that Podcasts and what to avoid. Stream, I've got a few of those.
Speaker 2I have a major what to avoid today, but anyway, yeah, one of them is infection of the parotid salivary gland.
Speaker 3Yeah, avoid it at all costs. Do it. Yeah, okay, stay away from it.
Speaker 2But first, before I get into what to avoid, let me talk to you about Patti LaBelle, yeah, who was Julia Louis-Dreyfus' guest on Wiser Than Me, wiser Than Me, yeah, on Wiser Than Me, wiser.
Speaker 3Than Me, yeah.
Speaker 2And now there are a lot of things about Patti LaBelle that I'm sure sort of everyone knows.
Speaker 3The hair, the hair, right, yeah, that's one In addition to oh, in addition to.
Speaker 2In addition to the gay icon, over-the-top, marabou and sequins and hair and four-inch-long eyelashes.
Speaker 3Everything about her is fabulous yeah.
Speaker 2Her over-the-top fabulousness and then having her first major hit be Lady marmalade, oh my god yeah oh my god, I mean, if that's your only hit yes, but it wasn't no, so there were many other ones, including the one.
Speaker 3We just listened to you, if you, if you asked me to if you ask me to, I would tell you what they are.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I'm waiting.
Women in Entertainment & Cooking
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, um uh uh, anyway, it's such a good podcast hey, here's, uh, here's something also if you're in an, if you're in the neighborhood of Springfield, massachusetts, february 7th, patti LaBelle will be at Symphony Hall. Get out. No, get out of town.
Speaker 2Not even kidding.
Speaker 3That is right.
Speaker 2Well, is she going to be anywhere closer?
Speaker 3No, that's it. Then she goes further away, like to uh, arizona, st petersburg and maryland I bet she'll be at the van weasel in sarasota. But yeah, it's probably lined up there go see her.
Speaker 2For those of you who are local and um have better quote cell service than I have, you can go further away from home and still stay connected to Earth. Go Go see Patty on. February 7th, looking for something to get yourself out of what you know is coming. It's the after holidays complete letdown. Right, which is comprised of two things. Oh, all the excitement, the fabulosity, the parties, the presents, the decorations.
Speaker 3It's all over. There's the void after that. Yeah.
Speaker 2But then there's also the I'm so tired, maybe put on some weight I'm so tired.
Speaker 3Right, I'm overeating.
Speaker 2I can't get off the couch.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I gained 10 pounds eating puppy chow and rainbow reindeer food, oh yeah and you know sticky toffee pudding and yeah, and just general like you know who makes a killer sticky toffee pudding?
Speaker 3you do, yeah, yeah, you make the best sticky toffee pudding anyone has ever had it is good, huh, yes, and it's an oft requested. And all completely from scratch.
Speaker 2And if you're not careful?
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I might end up having to bring one here in a couple weeks to deal.
Speaker 2So you just think long and hard about advertising your skills.
Speaker 3Well, I mean, you know if it's going to be requested, it's already been requested by the same guy before.
Speaker 2So you know it's like I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 3I know I'm saying you either have to have your. Yes, I'd be happy to yeah.
Speaker 2Or your. Oh, I'm so sorry, but I sprained my toffee finger a row, or yeah, or you're oh, I'm so sorry, but I sprained my toffee finger right exactly which I mean.
Speaker 3That sounds awful and I'm sorry yeah my profound apologies.
Speaker 2So, like I was saying wiser than me, yeah is great and you get to hear from older women, and by older I mean over 70 and in this case and in the case of patty 80. Yeah, patty's 80. Wow, did you know that three of her sisters died when they were in their 40s?
Speaker 3no kidding.
Speaker 2No, I did not know that see, I didn't know that and that was talked about um on this podcast in a way that made it sound like, well, yeah, everybody knows that except you and lev.
Speaker 3Well, and me, so you know.
Speaker 2But Patty has had quite a life and it's still going on, going on. Also, she's really into cooking, which I kind of knew.
Speaker 3I mean, I feel like I've seen her maybe on like Drew Barrymore cooking something up Right Exactly, I've seen that too, or on Ellen On some kind of show.
Speaker 2Or on the View, or the Talk, or the Schmoo. And she has done four New York Times bestseller cookbooks.
Speaker 3Right on Now. I did not know that, see.
Speaker 2In addition, this woman is not fooling around. When she travels, she's got a whole situation she brings with her, including her spices. Ah, certain things.
Speaker 3I see.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is a woman who the Scoville.
Speaker 3She's going prepared.
Speaker 2Well, also the Scoville scale does not go high enough for her. Oh, I see so she brings ghost peppers with her.
Speaker 3All right, yeah, that'll keep a few people out of your stuff she puts them in everything.
Speaker 2People out of your stuff. She puts them in everything you know you have to like say dude, thank you for making me this delicious flan, but could you turn? The heat down to bearable, you know to. I can almost eat it.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I can just see that.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 3A blisteringly hot flan. Oh, how wonderful.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean everything she makes is loaded with these with crazy hot peppers, and she like Well, it sounds fabulous. Yeah, she eats jalapenos for breakfast seeds in. You know, like that raw that's her. Anyway, she brings her special garlic with her. She brings all of her like main cooking ingredients, plus a few pots and pans that she can't live without.
Speaker 3Right, it's stuff she may not be able to get wherever the heck she is.
Speaker 2So she's walking around with probably her matched Louis Vuitton, like everything from the change purse to the triple steamer trunk stand-up wardrobe.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2To the kitchen supply cabinet.
Speaker 3You know what she's probably? Got a trunk that you open and there's all the dishes and all the flatware and stuff like that, and then a shelf will come out and there'll be an induction burner. Yeah.
Speaker 2Her Louis Vuitton kitchen, exactly yeah. Hilarious. Anyway, it was a really interesting interview because here is part two. Did you know that Julia Louis-Dreyfus had a sister who died when she was 43 years? Old oh really, which I did not know.
Speaker 2I didn't know that either yeah or I may have heard it, but it's not something that stuck well it happened in, I think, 2011, so 14 years ago almost, and the reason no one knows about it is because she OD'd oh, which was kept a secret for a very long time no one knows about it is because she OD'd oh, which was kept a secret for a very long time.
Speaker 3Yeah, so anyway, there you go. That's. So sad.
Speaker 2But listen to Wiser Than Me. It's so good, it's so, so good. It's all these women that you didn't know for a fact you wanted to hear from and learn from. Yeah, and you do. They're hilarious, they're amazing. Okay, now, speaking of women you want to hear from.
Speaker 3Okay. Fortune Feimster oh yeah, fortune's got a new.
Speaker 2uh dropped a new special huh it's called crushing it and it is in always crushing it it's so good, it's so good and I actually learned, learned a lot, oh okay, which I can't say, for instance, about Anthony Jeselnik's new special or newest special.
Speaker 3Uh-huh.
Speaker 2I didn't learn.
Speaker 3You didn't learn a lot from that.
Speaker 2Nope.
Speaker 3Well, you learned who Anthony Jeselnik was.
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Speaker 2I certainly did, and I learned that much. To your surprise, I can watch him for an hour, yeah, and be thoroughly entertained. I was surprised and get a kick out of it, but did he say one thing I can repeat no, oh no. Did he say one thing? I would repeat no, oh no. Did he say one thing? I would repeat no, no.
Speaker 2And nor would any reasonable person, no, and if you or anyone ever came up to me and said you are an Anthony Jeselnik liker, I would say, and I will say that is a lie, that is not true. That's not. Not one word of that is true.
Speaker 3Right, but he does make you laugh, no Well, he does entertain you. There you go.
Speaker 2No, not that, but anyway crushing it. So, first of all, fortune Feimster has totally come into her own. She is a quote clean comic, in the way that Nate Bargatze is a clean comic.
Speaker 1Right, yeah.
Speaker 2And she's a major fan of Nate Bargatze.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2She loves him.
Speaker 3Nate's very funny.
Speaker 2Yeah, nate's hilariousate sells out coliseums and arenas um he does yeah and he's not that great on hosting saturday night live.
Speaker 3He's not a cue card guy, he's not.
Speaker 2He's not that guy but I mean, yeah, you can't really judge a comedian by how good they are at reading cue cards on sketch comedy no especially on no, but I can't judge him at that and he was not you are so, you're so right mich you can judge him at that.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 2Anyway, fortune Feimster wearing her new custom pink suit, man-tailored suit yeah, she looked good. I don't mean like pant suit, no, I mean suit, and oh my God she looks fantastic. No, I mean suit, and oh my God she looks fantastic.
Speaker 3Yeah, she looks great.
Speaker 2She looks fantastic, she's totally confident, she has a great. It's a great set, it's a lot of fun. And here's something I didn't learn it it, but I really thought about it. I thought about, let's say, you're a gay person on your way to the maldives for a vacation. Yeah, and you open a guidebook and you're on the plane. It's like a 50, and you're on the plane. It's like a 50-hour flight. You're on the plane and it's not 50. It's like you have to take two flights.
Speaker 2It's going to take you a long time it totals 24 hours to go from LA to the Maldives. It's a nightmare, but anyway. And so you're somewhere on that journey and you open a guidebook and read that homosexuality is illegal in the Maldives. Right and the penalties are by imprisonment, flogging I don't know, being hanged by your fingernails.
Speaker 3Hanged is one.
Speaker 2Hanged. Yeah, and it is, you know, and so fortune describes thinking well, this has got to be some old, outdated bull that's still on the books and it says no in the guidebook.
Speaker 3Yeah, this is now.
Speaker 2In action and it's being enforced now and she's on her way to her gay honeymoon.
Speaker 3Right to a place where this is completely illegal.
Speaker 2And now, having grown up Jewish certainly Jewishly identified is perhaps more accurate Levine, jewish end of story, even though there was not a lot of Jewosity in my life until I was in college. Anyway, I I've very many times been reminded of the fact that I, in a certain time and place, would have been totally illegal. And that my family in a certain time and place was illegal and that that was punishable by murder.
Speaker 3Yeah, which happened to a lot of your family yeah, by being shot, burned alive, gassed.
Speaker 2You know, choose, pick your literal poison. But I never thought about what it would be like to be sitting on some mode of conveyance, you know, on my way to somewhere, and opening a book and reading. Oh, by the way, being Jewish in Italy is illegal.
Speaker 3Right, yeah.
Speaker 2And punishable by yada, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker 3Right, yeah, and punishable by yada, yada, yada, yada, right, including death.
Speaker 2And this is not an outmoded, outdated, still on the books kind of situation.
Speaker 3Right, it's not a blue law or whatever. Right, like here you know, massachusetts has a lot of— you still can't buy booze on a Sunday. Right until after noon.
Speaker 2But if you think you know it was, do you know when my parents had their chain of stores on Cape Cod? They had stores in New York State, in Colorado and on Cape Cod.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2They weren't allowed to open on Sunday.
Speaker 3Isn't that something?
Speaker 2Yeah, if they did, they had to pay a huge fine, and so I mean, even the thought of that now is just like it just seems so weird, right yeah? But bank holidays couldn't be open. So you couldn't be open on thanksgiving. Okay, not necessarily a day you want to be open, but go tell walmart that right, yeah I mean go tell shake shack, go tell, go tell chick-fil-A.
Speaker 3No, you just mentioned Shake Shack I know, I just blew by something that's right. You just blew by it. We're getting a Shake Shack on Cape Cod. Yes, in Hyannis, In Hyannis.
Speaker 2In the Whole Foods Plaza.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 2And we're getting Nordstrom's Rack.
Speaker 3Yeah, and Warby Parker will also be there, so that'll be kind of cool.
Speaker 2Yeah, so you don't have to order your five pairs of glasses anymore. Yeah, you can just walk over and get them. Yeah, pretty cool yeah.
Speaker 3You can just narrow it down. I thought that was cool. I didn't see the Shake Shack sign when I first saw who was moving in.
Speaker 2So I'm like right on. You know, of all the things that tickled me the most on that list, which included Shake Shack, nordstrom's Rack Warby Parker, the thing that got me the most was Citibank. Or is it Citibank or is it Chase?
Speaker 3or is it Citibank, or is it Chase?
Speaker 2Oh, on the yeah. I'll have to take a look. That's on the sign. Is Citibank even a thing anymore?
Speaker 3Well, I mean they do credit cards. It's Chase, it's Chase, yeah.
Speaker 2It's Chase. So I was thinking, oh my God, a brick and mortar bank.
Speaker 3Yeah, how weird is that.
Speaker 2Right An actual bank with a teller, you know, a safe deposit box.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2A brick-and-mortar freaking bank. That got me excited.
Speaker 3Very weird.
Speaker 2So it'll probably be the first thing to get knocked down and robbed, but we'll see. Yeah, you never know. So crushing it really made me think about for the first time particularly given the crap that's going on in this country right now what it would be like right now to find out that it's illegal to be a Jew in Toronto.
Speaker 3Yeah, or to be, or Sydney, or you know, gay, or to be gay.
Speaker 2Or to be whatever. I think it's still illegal to be trans in some places in this country right, probably yeah.
Speaker 3Or maybe even gay.
Speaker 2I mean it was illegal to be. I mean there are still sodomy laws.
Speaker 3There sure are yeah.
Speaker 2Which isn't the same thing as being gay. No, but but come on Yep, Come on people, Anyhow crushing it is great.
Speaker 3So crushing it, that's a thing to watch.
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Speaker 2It'll make you happy. It is a very happy hour of comedy and, yes, hanukkah, harry, if you're listening, I want the sweatshirt, the pink crushing it sweatshirt. I have a problem that I've developed late in my life. To have developed this problem. I know why it happened and I don't know if we'll bother getting into that, but I want the t-shirts and the sweatshirts. I see, and I don't 100% know why, I want the crushing it hoodie, I want the handsome hoodie, I want the handsome mug.
Speaker 3I you just want to collect all the stuff.
Speaker 2I want the merch, but mainly. I want the T-shirts and the sweatshirts.
Speaker 3Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2And I know what one of the reasons is. I won't get into it. It's a little depressing, but let's just say I want them. So to all of you out there thinking what the hell am I getting for Anne? Levine this year. That's right, you got it.
Speaker 3You got it. You got it Right on.
Speaker 2I want Fortune Feimster stuff. I want Handsome Pod stuff. I even want they've even got one sticker set that I want, speaking of which I have two stickers Okay.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Large stickers, you know, like three by three, not little.
Speaker 3Inches.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, three feet by three feet, no, three inches by three inches. Not little like postage stamp size ones that you could easily lose.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 2That I got specifically for two different specific cards that I'm sending.
Speaker 3Right yeah.
Speaker 2They have been in this one place, in this drawer, for over two months, and they are now Just waiting.
Speaker 3Gone, that's right. And now you can't find them. They, they are now Just waiting.
Speaker 2Gone.
Speaker 3That's right, and now you can't find them.
Speaker 2They are gone because it's time and I open the drawer to grab one of them and affix it to the thing I'm affixing it to the card.
Speaker 3it meant to go to Yep, not there they're both freaking gone.
Speaker 2I have pulled apart my desk twice.
Speaker 3Yeah, I watched you do it yeah.
Speaker 2I did it again today while you weren't here.
Speaker 3Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, it's just you can't find him.
Speaker 2Can't find him All right, so speaking about being illegal.
Speaker 3Uh-huh.
Speaker 2I don't know how to explain it, how that actually got to me in a way where I guess hearing my whole life that X, y and Z has always happened to Jews and in my own family, and not that long ago 75 years ago but long enough ago that I was never told. I mean, I had to go to Germany on business. I wasn't told oh, you can't come here, you're illegal. You used to be illegal here, or any country that I've been to. I've never been told warning, don't go there.
Speaker 2I mean, are we talking about, you know, iran? Yeah, warning, but warning to anybody. Iran, yeah, warning, but warning to anybody, right? Anyhow, it just occurred to me what it would be like right now to open our guidebook, to look a place up online and see that you specifically, whatever your deal is, are illegal, and how terrifying, absolutely terrifying, that has to be. Speaking of that, there is a movie coming out that I cannot wait to see and it's called Queer and it stars Daniel Craig and it's an A24 movie. They do some of your best films done by A24. Did?
Speaker 3you know that.
Speaker 2Michael.
Speaker 3I've seen a few.
Speaker 2Anything in particular.
Speaker 3Yeah, most of them start with A24.
Speaker 2Like at the beginning, oh Glad you found a way to identify them. Mm-hmm Was your latest recommendation.
Speaker 3Vengeance vengeance, an a24 film I don't believe so, you don't, I don't. No, I don't think it was anyway, tell us about vengeance well, okay, if you if you haven't seen this, we're talking about things to watch and things not to watch, and this is something you should watch. It's a couple years old. It was made in 2022. It stars BJ Novak and Ashton Kutcher. Issa Rae, john Mayer is in the beginning and he's one of my very favorite parts of the movie is the beginning.
Speaker 2With Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 3No with John Mayer and BJ. Oh, that's right, BJ, they're at a party talking about stuff and it's hilarious. Their conversation is absolutely hilarious and there's a lot of comedy in the film. But it's not a comedy, it is a mystery, it's a thriller.
Speaker 2It's a I guess you could call it a dark comedy, I suppose.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, some of it's absolutely hilarious beyond belief about a guy who hooks up with a girl in new york who ends up, uh, you know, going back home to texas and, uh, and getting murdered. And they call him and they say, hey, I don't know how to tell you, but you know, abby was killed and he's scrambling to try to figure out who this is, and she had told her entire family that this whole story about he and she, that was not real and about how they'd been together.
Speaker 2For well, that's what I was gonna say when he first hears about it yeah, he has no idea, he's not that flipped out no, no, no, but he is.
Speaker 3Well, he's a little flipped out about why, the fact, why they're even calling him.
Speaker 2Exactly.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 3Exactly but he ends up going down to Texas and dealing with her family and then eventually, you know the idea is to he's doing a podcast, so he's, you know, documenting all of this stuff and we find out all kinds of stuff. Anyway, it's very funny, funny. It's a great movie. It's got a uh uh. There's a lot that I did not expect in this movie, which, uh, which I love in a film because I can usually. I can usually tell what's going to happen quite often, and when they get me, I love it. And this one really got me. I didn't know what was going to happen from one moment to the next. It was pretty great.
Speaker 2Well, I'm going to tell you about a film that I would say is the opposite of Vengeance.
Speaker 3Yeah, the don't watch movie.
Speaker 2Starting with well, it's called Juror no 2. Yeah, and that's your first clue.
Speaker 3Uh-huh, yeah, it's criminal.
Speaker 2So it's well, yeah, but it starts out with a murder. Oh yeah, but it starts out with a murder. Oh yeah, guess who did it.
Speaker 3The butler.
Speaker 2Seriously.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Guess who did it.
Speaker 3The wife.
Speaker 2Juror number two. Juror number two did it, my God. Oh, michael's funning on me, but I'm not the one that needs to be. It stars.
Speaker 3Nicholas Holt and Zoe Deutsch. Toni Collette who is awesome. Kiefer Sutherland's in it. Jk Simmons JK Simmons is in it. He's on the jury.
Speaker 2Now, all in all, based on the cast'm thinking yeah, okay right, christmasina, I like him, he's good, yeah, yeah there are some outstanding actors, yeah, in this film and it is the worst. And spoiler alert, I mean I already told you what you will figure out in the first 10 minutes.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2This is a film with no red herrings, and I'm not kidding. There is not a single red herring in this murder quote mystery. The mystery is revealed, I think, within the first 10 minutes of this two-hour film.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2So you know exactly whodunit, you know how, you know why, you know why. You know all of it Long before the middle, long before the halfway mark.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2But you're still watching this courtroom drama, still watching this courtroom drama and the jury deliberations, right, yeah, and of course, juror number two is the actual murderer. He's in there in the room. Everyone's getting more and more suspicious, and even the prosecution figures it out Not those guys. The prosecution figures it out, but too late Too late. Too late, it's completely bonkers, yeah. And so if you like a movie that is bonkers, I enjoy watching. Toni Collette, I enjoy watching.
Speaker 3JK Simmons.
Speaker 2I enjoy Kiefer Sutherland. Um, how anyone got any of them to do this. Their budget must have been over the moon.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I can't imagine reading this script and thinking, oh yeah, oh yeah, this is a make or break man, they're never gonna forget this movie.
Speaker 3There's Oscar buzz now let me, there's no buzz do you know who made this movie? No, the guy who talks to chairs, clint Eastwood that's right.
Speaker 2yeah, oh, that's right. Yeah, oh, that's right. I read that somewhere.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm. I only watched the very beginning because I thought it was so poorly done. I was watching it and I'm saying to you none of this looks believable at all to me how these people are acting.
Speaker 2I want to describe to the people what happened after I turned on this film. You and I were both sitting here and we were both watching it. And we get 10 minutes in and there's this one scene and I say, wow, she's a really good actress. And Michael said, or, she's a really bad actress, Right, and that's true, depending on what she was trying to convey.
Speaker 3Right, because we couldn't really figure it out Well about another five minutes went by and Michael said these words.
Speaker 2I don't like this.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2And I said, okay, well, put something on that you like. And he said, I don't care, I don't care, I'll just. I said no, I don't want to sit here with something on that you don't like. So what did we end up watching?
Speaker 3The SEC championship game.
Speaker 2That's right. Florida versus Texas.
Speaker 1That's right. Florida versus Texas.
Speaker 3Yeah, yep, I know it was so weird, but I will tell you it was Georgia. By the way, it was actually a nail-biter. Georgia won.
Speaker 2It was a nail-biter. It was a nail-biter.
Speaker 3It was. I got so many holiday cards written. Yeah, you did.
Speaker 2Plus some New York Times puzzles, yeah, in the back catalog. So, anyhow, juror number two don't? Yeah, college football was preferable. Yeah, I mean Even for Ann, my friend now that, whom you've heard many a thing, is currently recommending Modern Family, if you've never watched it.
Speaker 2I have never watched it. I watched one episode one time. I was I'm not going to say where I was, but I was with a group of people who thought it was hilarious, this particular episode or this particular show. They love this show and I found it to be and this could just be the episode I watched a little homophobic, and this could just be the episode I watched a little homophobic. I found it to be a little too gaggy about gay men and someone would say, oh, I don't know, you know it's something like would you like a pina colada? Oh, I love a fruit drink, winky winky at the camera.
Speaker 2You know what I mean Like stupid BS like that. Yeah, in this episode that I watched and this group was roaring with laughter, so I was incensed and not amused, and right up until now, I've refused to be amused by it. Um, I do not want the t-shirt, thank you.
Speaker 3However, I might give it a watch okay just based on we'll, we'll have to, we'll have to look and see what you think of the modern family yep yeah yep, well, what someone else thinks, I'm gonna need maybe more than one reference.
Speaker 2Um, I'll tell you something it was a very popular show, oh yeah. I know, I mean, all of those people are zillionaires. It's in syndication forever. Yeah, yeah, no, and it's one of those all-time favorite sitcoms. Yeah, for some people, yeah it is yeah, so maybe that'll be a thing. You know, like I had never seen a single episode of Grey's Anatomy and then I spent two months watching 19 seasons of it.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, it could end up like that.
Speaker 2It could end up like that and it could end up like that. One thing that I saw that really reminded me because I kind of forget Abbott Elementary oh, 100%, 100%. They did their holiday episode and, oh my God, it was hilarious.
Speaker 3Yes, it was. It was crazy, wasn't it?
Speaker 2And it was a special. It's like an hour and a half.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2It's a two-part thing, but you can watch it. It's all out. Watch it all at once. It is so funny. Yeah, it was hilarious.
Speaker 3That is a great show. I love that show. It is so funny. Yeah, it was hilarious. That is a great show. I love that show.
Italian Pronunciations, Movie Reviews, Book Recommendations
Speaker 2It is so clever, it is so good, clean, fun, and it's just clever. And this one had a classic. And when I say classic I don't mean classy, I mean classic like Philly, italian right, like Bay Ridge, you know, like from the places that speak Italian. Like this, you cut off the last vowel, right. So mozzarella last vowel Right so mozzarella is mozzarella.
Speaker 3Right, and you've got to use your hands. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Or capicola is gabagoo. Yeah, and rigotte is ricotta, okay. Okay, if you're familiar with those pronunciations of Italian, this is the episode that you will recognize. This it is so damn funny.
Speaker 3Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2And it takes place at Melissa's house for Christmas dinner. A lot of it.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2And everyone that you want to be with is there, so, anyway, watch it. It's hysterical. The other thing that I'm really shocked by is A Complete Unknown. Okay, yeah, which, it's a new biopic, and you've probably heard about it, as I had a ways back. It's Timothee Chalamet as Bob Dylan.
Speaker 3Bob, yeah, he's got the hair for it.
Speaker 2Well, he's a skinny little Jew, that's what he has. So, yeah, he's got, you know, his curly Jew hair. Um, but other than that, and some blue eyes, these are not two people that are not similar.
Speaker 3No, I would never think they're related in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2Yeah, and when I first heard that Timotei was going to be playing Bob, I thought that is not, that's the wrong choice, that's screwed up. And then I watched a bunch of clips from it and Timothy Timothee, depending on how you want to pronounce it is a genius. Now I don't know if the film is, I don't know how the writing is, I don't know how the rest of it is, but I have seen Timothy sing, speak and act in several segments of this movie and he's amazing.
Speaker 3He is.
Speaker 2I mean, he's a good actor, he really is, he is, I mean, he's a good actor, he really is, he is, I mean. And so if I had to at this moment say, will it be the Oscar goes to Nicholas Holt for juror number two, or Timothy Chalamet, for a complete unknown? I'm going with Timothy, I know it's early.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, thank you. Oh, there are a bunch of other movies. All the movies are coming out now. Um maria is out oh, that's right, angelina jolie, that's playing at the cape theater right now I don't know anything about it, except that she is in it and it has been. We talked about this. It has been a long, long, long time since I saw her in a drama.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Well, really, since I saw her in anything, quote, good end, quote, end, quote, and so I know she's been in like marvel things, she's been, the laura cross, she's been I don't know. Then then, mr and mrs smith, so it's about maria callas?
Speaker 3oh my god, kidding, no, and that's who she's starring as yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, well, my mind is open to change and this will be the second serious drama starring Angelina Jolie of which I am aware, and I want to see it desperately. I hope she's good.
Speaker 1Maria.
Speaker 2Callas is, wow, interesting choice. One thing I'll tell you about Maria Callas that doesn't quite fit this the way Timotei fits Bob Dylan.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Body type. Maria Callas was not a skinny woman, uh-huh, skinny woman. She wasn't overweight, but she was a robust. She was an opera singer. Yeah right, you've got to have. You have to have meat on your bones, but you've got to have a seriously. You've got to have muscle in order to sing opera.
Speaker 3Uh-huh yeah.
Speaker 2A lot of people don't realize. They think that, like female opera singers are just big. For some reason they think they're fat. They're not all fat, but they are all muscular, as are male opera singers. Anyway, maria, I can't wait. I got to see it.
Speaker 3Yeah, and Angelina Jolie's performance is really getting pretty good reviews.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3From the festivals that it's been to and stuff, so yeah.
Speaker 2I'm ready. Yeah, I've always thought there should be an anna magnani type.
Speaker 3If you don't know who anna magnani is and I'm guessing you don't just google anna magnani and watch one of her films- and uh, Angelina isn't singing all of this, but at the end of the movie it's mostly her singing Really In the film's final act.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wonder which aria that could possibly be. Or maybe she's singing Jingle Bells.
Speaker 3I don't know, but she spent seven months training to do just the singing part uh, yeah, seven, oh my god.
Speaker 2Um, I'm guessing that timothy chalamet spent at least seven months getting his bob Dylan down, which is not what's the word I'm trying to say. It's not a put down of Angelina. I'm just saying that to do anything so iconic as sing like a very famous singer.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2You got to put in some very serious time, unless, of course, you're.
Speaker 3Timothee, and you're trying to do Bob Dylan. I mean, that's not all that hard.
Speaker 2You know, after I just said that, you had to say that.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's why you and I get along so well in our personal lives. That's right. We never argue, no, we agree on everything. All right, a book that I highly recommend.
Speaker 3I've heard of them.
Speaker 2You know what I bet you're going to say oh yeah, I heard of that, I heard about this.
Speaker 3I might have. I don't know. You tell me.
Speaker 2You know how. You've heard about it. From you, you've heard me mention it to other people. Quite possible, yeah, not to you. Ah yes, there's a reason to you. Ah, yes, there's a reason. But maybe after this you'll say hey, no, wait, I'd really like to hear about that, I'd really like to read it. It's called the Way of Integrity.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2And it's by Martha Beck.
Speaker 3Good old Martha.
Speaker 2This is a book to read. It is nonfiction that may be obvious to some people, but not necessarily Nonfiction Non-fiction and it's about some ways to live your life and to reframe some things so that you it'll give you a lift, it will give you a lift, it will give you a lift. This is a book, that is. It's not how to fix your life, but it is some tips for having better, more joyful experiences in general, some adjustments you can make, and I have found it to be tremendously helpful. With little things, little things, you know those little stupid lies you tell. With little things, little things, you know those little stupid lies you tell.
Speaker 3Like oh sorry I was late, but yeah okay, yeah, no, no, no or sorry.
Speaker 2I have to cancel, but and you come up with something, yeah Right.
Speaker 3Something happened yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, or I have a conflict, I don't know. You say something that's not necessarily true, and the truth might be. I really don't feel like it. Yeah, right, exactly don't feel like it. Yeah, right, exactly. And so recently I had to cancel something super minor, um, and I was thinking now super minor, with a close friend not a super close friend, not a super close friend, but a friend and this sounds like that song that I hate, but I know it's not that song that.
Speaker 3I don't hate.
Speaker 2This is called Judges. Right the Judges.
Speaker 3The Judge.
Speaker 2The Judge In honor of fingers crossed possible Oscar winner, oscar buzz. Juror number two oh Lord.
Speaker 3Oh my yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, oh my yeah.
Speaker 3Well, that's why I'm stunned that it is a Clint Eastwood directed film. I really am. I'm absolutely stunned at that. Are you yeah. I've seen movies he's made before and I like them. This one was not a well-done film.
Speaker 2Oh well, that's.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's to me, it wasn't.
Speaker 2I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3So have a good week everybody.
Confusion Over Language and Communication
Speaker 2Have a great week everybody. Yeah, have a great week everybody. And for the Americans who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, who have given their lives fighting alongside the IDF, please put a light on Set me free, do the judge.
Speaker 4Oh, no, set me free, I know my soul's freezing. Hell's hot for good reason. So please, I don't know if this song is a surrender or a rebel. I don't know if this one is about me or the devil. I don't know if this song is a surrender or a rebel. I don't know if this one is about me or the devil. You're the judge. Oh no, set me free, oh no. You're the judge, oh no, set me free, oh no.
Speaker 1I know my soul's freezing Hell's hot for good reason, so please We'll be right back. I'm going to go to bed.
Speaker 2My safe word will be whiskey. Sorry, rod, what was that? Whiskey? Does that mean whiskey?
Speaker 3What You're saying it weird Saying what weird All of it, where do you get off? I just don't get why you're saying it that way, why I'm saying what? What weird All of it, where do you get off? I just don't get why you're saying it that way.
Speaker 1Why I'm saying what, what way, forget it, I will, I will forget it, you.
