Anne Levine Show
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Anne Levine Show
Honestly, It's Mostly Adrian.
If you were an author, would you write a fictional character named after a notorious real-life geologist? We kick off with some humor about Anne's understandable mix-up with "The Brutalist" and its lead character, Laszlo Toth. We explore the curious decision to name the character after a historical Hungarian known for vandalizing Michelangelo's Pietà. As we dissect the film's success, the highlight is Adrian Brody's performance, which might just snag him another Oscar. And did you know he was the original protagonist in "The Thin Red Line" before being mostly cut? And he's still upset about it. It's a rollercoaster of curiosity and acclaim.
Halle Berry's recent appearance on Andy Cohen's show takes us on a trip down memory lane, revisiting the unforgettable Oscars moment from 2002 when Adrian Brody planted a surprise kiss on her. How would that fly today? (CLUE: It didn't fly well THEN either) We also talk about the Golden Globes' unusual category for highest box office gross and Michael tries Oreo cookies featuring a Coca-Cola twist so you don't have to. Say thank you.
A heartfelt thank you to Alison for recommending "The Scent of Green Papaya" leads us into deeper discussions. This Vietnamese film beautifully captures life's nuances against the tumultuous backdrop of the Vietnam War.
Also, there's more stuff about Adrian Brody.
The episode takes a somber turn as we reflect on Jimmy Carter's passing, celebrating his humanitarian legacy. Yet, even in sadness, there's humor in the closed caption descriptions at his state funeral. We wrap up with a celebration of gospel music's power and the joy of human connection, urging everyone to put a light on.
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Hey, smokey Robinson, take a good look at yourself. This is Ann Levine and this is the Ann Levine Show. It's mid-January 2025. Right smack in the middle, it's some kind of holiday, but I'm not sure if I dreamt that or if that's actual. A lot of my dreams have been, let's just say, my brain isn't working as well as it used to. I guess that's what it is. I am joined, of course, by Michael over there.
Speaker 3:Hello.
Speaker 2:And he is the star of this show. We are coming to you from WOMR 92.1 FM in Provincetown Massachusetts and WFMR 91.3 FM in Provincetown Massachusetts.
Speaker 3:And WFMR 91.3, fm Orleans.
Speaker 1:And around the world on.
Speaker 2:WOMRorg. Well, I should start by saying a huge apology to everyone, because I'm a human being and I make mistakes lots of them all the time. I think that's part of being a human being. But anyway, the mistake I made has to do with the film that won the Golden Globe for Best Picture, known as the Brutalist. I am one of many, many, many who made the mistake of Googling Laszlo Toth, who is a Hungarian artist and geologist who vandalized Michelangelo's Pietà statue in 1972.
Speaker 3:Brilliant.
Speaker 2:Now, because it said geologist art, I was able to, and because I didn't know very much about the Brutalist yet, I was able to synthesize some sort of something that made this the same. Laszlo Toth spelled the same, both Hungarian, etc. From, I said Hungary, from the movie the Brutalist, so the name of the protagonist that Adrian Brody plays. Well, that's not it.
Speaker 3:Not the same guy, same name.
Speaker 2:It's the same exact name.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 2:They're both Hungarian.
Speaker 3:This is probably a common name.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know how common it is. There's a soccer player also named Laszlo Toth, but if I was to sit down and write a work of fiction which is what the brutalist is unbeknownst to me I'm not sure that I would use a name that was famous for because of a living person or living persons.
Speaker 3:Okay, I mean there are a whole ton of Michael Jordans and Jordan-whatevers out there now all in their 30s. They all got named after one guy. You know Right, it happens, this is a work.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that that doesn't happen. I'm saying this is a work of fiction.
Speaker 3:Right, but fiction should have a great deal of reality in it in order for it to be believable.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right, well, anyway, I made the mistake, oh all right. Well, anyway, I made the mistake. In this case, I would say that naming the protagonist Laszlo Toth is, I think, a peculiar choice.
Speaker 3:See, I don't know if that's a common name or not, and if it is a common name, then it makes perfect sense. Okay, if the character is supposed to be a common man, you know what I mean. Well he's not a common man.
Speaker 2:He's an extraordinary architect and, shockingly, because he's Jewish, he gets tossed out of Hungary, hmm, and I know I never heard anything like that before. So he comes to the United States, he manages to get here and has a rather extraordinary life as an architect and an artist. It's a very long film. It won, as I say, golden Globe. It won the Palme d'Or, it won Golden, as I say, golden Globe. It won the Palme d'Or. It won Golden Globe Best Picture, best Director, best Actor.
Speaker 2:Adrian Brody is widely believed to be the guy who's going to win the Oscar and I'm going to put a pin in Oscar because I want to talk a little bit about the whole awards thing. But anyhow, what I've heard is that, in spite of the long running time and what a person reading the summary of the film might find to be dry, I've read a ton of reviews, and not, like you know, snooty reviews, sort of common man reviews that say, believe it or not, this is a really great movie and it flies by and it's definitely worth seeing. So I had already sort of thought I don't know if I want to see this. Now I do, having read these reviews. So my apologies to those of you who may or may not have paid attention to a word I said about this a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2:At any rate, the truth will out. Aj Brody is a really interesting guy and he had an interview with Mark Maron that was so revealing about both guys. And there are a few things about Adrian Brody that I did not know. One is that he was supposed to have been the protagonist of the film the Thin Red Line. If you've seen it, fantastic. If you haven't see it right away, it's extraordinary. It's about Guadalcanal.
Speaker 3:And he didn't get the part. For what reason he got the part?
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, All right. And he shot the whole film as the protagonist Right, and then the director decided no and cut him out of most of it and put in I don't know who it is offhand and I don't have it pulled up in front of me. Okay.
Speaker 1:The cast. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:But oh, Sean Penn, oh okay, who's the thin red line? Who's the other one?
Speaker 3:It is Sean Penn, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there's, I don't think it was the Sean Penn role.
Speaker 3:Jim Caviezel, john Cusack, george Clooney was in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it must have been Sean Penn, woody Harrelson. Yeah, I mean, must have been Sean Penn, woody Harrelson, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean incredible cast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quite a cast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, amazing, john Travolta was even in it yeah. John Travolta, nick Nolte.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it must have been Sean Penn, that the director, terrence Malick, of all people, based on a 1962 novel by James Jones, james Jones, so anyhow, adrian isn't over it yet. Now that's a 1998 film, yeah, being cast in a major, marquee motion picture, important motion picture, you know. It won every award With Terrence Malick at the helm. And then you get to the end and they say, nah, you know what?
Speaker 3:I want to do it the other way.
Speaker 2:Now that you've spent eight years working on this, yeah, and you know every ounce of everything you have we're going to, you know, plug in Sean Penn here and he ends up having like three lines and I'm not exaggerating, that's it in the whole film, and so it took him a long time to recover from that. He was, at that point, the youngest person ever to win a Best Actor Oscar, on a trajectory straight to the stars, whatever that means. He was having an incredible career.
Speaker 2:He still is. Yes, that is true. However, oh no, I've got this backwards. This was three or four years before the Pianist, so this was going to be his first big. I mean I could see where this could really be traumatizing. Can't you be traumatizing, can't you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially if you're not used to how Hollywood works, you know because they do stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Well, they don't usually have you film an entire film, a big budget blockbuster kind of film, big-budget blockbuster kind of film, and then suddenly say, nah, we're going to redo this with someone else. Yeah well. I mean, but they do.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I mean, this film is evidence of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know of other films like that, but I'm sure you do. I know of films where so-and-so gets some lines cut or they get cut. They have a small, although you know who got cut entirely from the film was Mickey Rourke. Oh, and he was not, you know, like number one through six on the call sheet, right right, but he was in it, he did the whole damn thing. So Terrence Malick's got to be a little I don't know what. So Mickey Rourke isn't even mentioned. He doesn't have a single line. You never see him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He is out of the film. So, anyway, hollywood, whatever. Hollywood is just so ridiculous. Um, it's gotten more ridiculous, I have to say. The Golden Globes were. I couldn't even watch the replays. Speaking of Adrian Brody, nikki Glaser, who hosted the Golden Globes, did one hilarious joke about Adrian Brody. Michael, would you like to tell it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, she called him a two time Holocaust survivor, adrian Brody which is pretty darn hilarious. It is pretty funny yeah but, that has been in a couple very big movies where that is exactly what he's done.
Speaker 2:So I wonder if she wrote that or uh, I don't know. Yeah, it's hard to tell but what a great joke that is. Yeah, yeah, uh. So I found the golden Globes intolerable. I watched—.
Speaker 3:I thought Nikki's opening monologue was pretty great.
Speaker 2:Oh, so did I. But I mean, after that it was just— I found it painful, and the way they categorize this stuff is just insane yeah.
Speaker 3:A lot of it's like political, because someone says, well, but our show is awesome and it's not being considered because it's in a horror category or whatever. So they put it as black comedy and then they put it in a comedy category, so whatever. So they put it as black comedy and then they put it in a comedy category so it can get more acclaim, right, well, it's just. You know, they do a lot of that kind of thing when it doesn't really belong there. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, you saw. You did not see Anora, which was a very highly acclaimed film.
Speaker 3:I saw the beginning of it brutal, tragic.
Speaker 2:It was violent yeah it was a rough film um. It was in the comedy category right, that's the thing. Yeah, so you have people like comedy, musical or how any of those things compete, and then you have people who are comedians and who release these incredible Netflix specials.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they get— they never get nominated even no, because—.
Speaker 2:Or if they do, they certainly never win.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll tell you— Because some studios got to, you know, got to make some money.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you another film, that's—that was in the comedy category and this one you watched most of, I believe. A Real Pain. Oh yeah, jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Culkin Right Comedy.
Speaker 3:I heard you talk about that last week. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But that was in the comedy category no it was a drama.
Speaker 3:They said some funny things to each other, not a comedy.
Speaker 2:I know that's what I'm saying. The fact that it was in that category was a drama. They had some, they said some funny things to each other, not a comedy. I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:The fact that it was in that category yeah, they love to do that, though it's so, I don't know what the hollywood foreign press, whatever, yeah I have no those guys
Speaker 2:well, I don't even know who those guys are I have no respect for to see. That is really good that I can count on. I might look at best picture winners, yeah sure, and pick one out. So I use it a little bit as a litmus the things they do say and the absolute divide between you know we're right and they're wrong, that whole political. You know you can make fun of something when the quote bad team does it, but if your team does it can't make fun of it. Okay, that whole sort of double standard is just exhausting.
Speaker 2:Anyway, Adrian Brody is not only not over the thin red line, which you can tell by when he was questioned by Mark Maron in his interview, the way that he responded to the questions and the amount he had to say about it, and he'd sort of say, oh, that was so long ago and so much more has happened since then and yada, yada, yada. But then he'd going back to it a lot, to a point where it just really seemed like and I could of course be wrong, he's not over it or that it's very much on his mind, even though he won best actor at the age of 29 youngest ever for the pianist extraordinary film if you haven't see it, seen it. It's so good and adrian brody is so good and he is expected to win for this one, for the the Brutalist about Laszlo Toth not that one or that other one that kicks a ball around, right?
Speaker 2:No, not that one. So he's also really interesting about his Jewishness. Really interesting about his Jewishness and Mark was asking him some stuff about—he grew up in Queens. Adrian Brody did Okay, Adrian Brody did, and his dad was a survivor from Hungary or maybe he wasn't from Hungary In quotes, not Jewish but she survived and got across some border in the back of a corn truck or something, and so, anyway, I looked it up because I remember hearing that he's quote half Jewish, whatever that means, but his grandmother's Jewish, his mother's mother's, fully Jewish. So technically, adrian Brody, if he did his 23andMe would probably come up as—.
Speaker 3:Pretty Jewish.
Speaker 2:You know 99% Ashkenazi or something. Pretty Jewish. You know 99% Ashkenazi or something, you know. Maybe he's got a little Sephardic something in there, but anyway, I found that interesting too that he really backs away from that, which is fine, he's fine. But like another friend that I have who is 100 percent Jewish but fully denies it yeah, including to her own children, which has presented all sorts of craziness in this family's lives I've always said if you're Jewish and you don't want to be, you don't want to practice it, you don't really want to call yourself that, I don't care deny it yeah, in that way I find confusing, and you know, unless you are in nazi germany, right, fleeing for your life and saying no, I'm not jewish right, okay
Speaker 2:that makes sense. But if you grew up on central park south and your father was a Garmento, hello, hello. Yeah, you know what are we talking about here. So, anyway, so that's how I feel about Adrian Brody. So what are you turning away from? Yeah, no, really, and it doesn't make a difference. It just it feels weird. You know, if you are Jewish, hearing someone else who's Jewish, you know, denying it. Yeah. I get that, yeah, it doesn't feel too comfortable. So, anyway, adrian's got some work to do, or not?
Speaker 3:but I love him. He's doing okay.
Speaker 2:I love him to bits. He is just. Oh, you, you know. And speaking of adrian, I did watch hallie berry on andy cohen recently. She was on. Uh oh, what's the show? Is it live?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where he's just in his studio with two guests and some bartenders, and Halle Berry was one of his guests, I don't know who. The other one was famous adrian brody. Kiss when adrian accepted the best actor award. Oh yeah, right in 2002, and he ran up onto the stage, grabbed hallie who was holding the oscar or who, who had announced that he won, and bent her back and gave her a full on the mouth. Kiss, yeah. And so andy said what? How did that? How did that feel? And how? He said how it felt was what the F is happening here.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, Adrian Brody shut the front door. She went off, Mm-hmm, which I can understand. It's interesting, and I may be wrong about this. I certainly never heard of it that. Adrian was never me-too'd about that.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:That was quite. I don't know what that was. I don't know, I don't know how I feel about that. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3:How long ago was it?
Speaker 2:Well, it was in 2002.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a little before the Me Too.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know, but I mean, when it happened did you think it was offensive?
Speaker 3:I had no idea. I didn't know if they knew each other. So you know, I'm like, okay, the guy's a little carried away, that's all I thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same with me. He's just like insanely excited. Yeah, and I didn't think they knew each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I had no idea. I mean, I don't know who. You know who of these people worked together before, or whatever. You know, so who?
Speaker 2:are these people worked together before or whatever you know. So, yeah, my sense was they didn't know each other, but he just absolutely, you know, 29-year-old, youngest guy to ever win the biggest acting award in the world and he lost his mind. Yeah, I did not feel like it was at the time. Yeah, no, I didn't know. Anyway, interesting, because that certainly could not happen. Now We'll have to see who would be presenting. Who won Best Actress last year.
Speaker 3:I don't remember, I don't know I don't remember paying any attention to the Oscars last year.
Speaker 2:To tell the truth, yeah, well, we would have had to pay attention a little bit for the show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but mostly red carpet, so not so much the movies.
Speaker 2:Oh, Michelle.
Speaker 3:Yeoh, oh, for everything, everywhere, yeah right. So that would be quite something if Adrian Brody ran up and staked oh and went to kiss Michelle Yeoh, who could kick his butt.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm sure Halle Berry could have kicked his butt for that matter, but this was a deep open mouth kiss. This wasn't a.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw it.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying it just for the sake of those who may not have seen it. So anyway, there's your Adrian Brody for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that guy.
Speaker 2:And Well, I don't know. I hope he wins. I'm not sure who he's up against. They have this incredible category in the Golden Globes this year, which is highest box office gross.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh. That's what Wicked won, oh yeah and they had to do that because Wicked wasn't going to win any of the other ones.
Speaker 2:As well it shouldn't.
Speaker 3:I'm so sick of that, I know. I'm so absolutely sick of Wicked and everything about it. I am too Just the overload of the press of it and the push in every single place I look.
Speaker 2:Oh, and the commercial. I mean all the cross cross promotional stuff and the product placement and it's on tv, it's on radio, it's online, it is everywhere I think it's a cereal, I don't know it's all horrible. Yeah, anyway, I think it really a cereal.
Speaker 3:I believe so yeah.
Speaker 2:Pink and green.
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:Does it sing when you does? It? Well anyway.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to try it, although I have tried some other things, but I'm not going to try that.
Speaker 2:Does it float out of the box? Couldn't tell you. Well, I think we should get a box and test it. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you what I did get out and test for people you know, for the whole world, so they don't have to Uh, diet coke oreos oh yes, you certainly did.
Speaker 2:We've talked about it a few times you are mistaken.
Speaker 3:Oh, we have talked about oreo diet coke. Oh, this is the other way around. This is, I'm sorry another mistake explain please it's oreos, where half of it's got the brown chocolate side. The other half is red and it has coke imprinted on it and uh, and the filling in the middle, the cream in the middle, tastes, tastes like coca-cola, and so does the red cookie part and would you say that it's success?
Speaker 2:no, no, no no no, all right pass these by people let me ask you, in the way that you said oh, this diet coke tastes exactly like oreos, yeah, did you taste these oreos and say these Oreos taste exactly like Diet Coke? No, okay.
Speaker 3:Well, I did not. They're interesting, you know, because Diet Coke has, you know, soda, has bubbles in it, mm-hmm, they actually tried to recreate that, so like in the center in the cream part.
Speaker 2:Do they have pop rocks in them.
Speaker 3:It's not really pop rocks, but it's like little tiny bits of sugar, hard sugar, so that it gives you a little pop. Yeah, there's a little pop, a little sort of fizz to it, that you know. Anyway, I thought that was interesting. That's the only interesting part of it, I thought. And they get pretty close with the flavors, which is not that hard. It's citrus and cola. I mean, it's not that? People have been doing it for years now, but no, pass them by. Well, that sounds flat Not worth it.
Speaker 2:Flat disgusting.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't do it. Uh, it reminds me of I told you earlier about this reddit story. I heard about a guy who was trying to be extremely penurious and went to the dollar store one day and knew Rachel Ray from her cooking show on television Right yeah, and saw these cans of Rachel Ray meals. So it would be chicken and rice or it would be whatever it would be yeah yeah, beef and cheese Right.
Speaker 3:And he said rachel ray, turkey with gravy, yeah stuff like that yeah, let me grab a few, they're on sale, yeah, 30 cents a can.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I'm gonna be eating lunch for 30 cents yeah well cut to the next day. He's sitting in the lunchroom at work, pops open his can of chicken and rice, sticks in the spoon, starts eating it. And someone walks in and said oh my God, what are you doing? And he said check it out. Lunch for 30 cents from the chef par excellence right rachel ray and she 30 minute meals.
Speaker 3:Dude that dog food nutrition is a dog food line yeah and uh dog food line yeah and uh, he, he is never going to live that down.
Speaker 2:He's going to be the dog food guy in that office forever. Well, yes, and he told this story on himself on reddit, so he certainly has. I mean, he certainly got to the point where he saw the humor in it. Yeah, saw how funny it was, um, and it didn't traumatize him in the way I feel like I might have been traumatized.
Speaker 3:Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Although these days, when we see first of all what we feed our dog, which is what you cook them twice a day, yeah. And what led us to you cooking the dog meals, which is, you know, we used a couple of different of these fresh food services and realized that you know what's in it. Well, it's food grade, which I find is such a funny categorization that means humans can eat it which makes me wonder what non-food grade is.
Speaker 2:I don't even want to know mostly sawdust but um so, given that those are the kinds of things that are really popular and available, I'm less squeamish about you know, possibly accidentally eating a little bit of that stuff part of this uh reddit story, which was from someone else, but I don't know if it was rachel ray or some other company that made dog cookies and they look like oreos oh okay.
Speaker 3:Do they taste like Coke Zero?
Speaker 2:Well, this guy went through two boxes of them.
Speaker 3:Oh goodness.
Speaker 2:Saying well, these are low-rent Oreos, but you know, they're good enough, right, I could sit here and mindlessly snack on them. So there you go, people. If you care, yeah, if you care, yeah, if you care, watch out. I have many, many films to mention.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:But before I delve into that, Before I delve into that, I do want to say merci bien Alison, for L'Odure de Papaya Verte, which is an incredible film. It's called the Scent of Green Papaya in English.
Speaker 3:You've been on a Vietnam kick, reading books and watching movies and stuff and learning a lot about it. So Allison, after last week's show, sent me a note saying, hey, you ought to check out this. So that's cool.
Speaker 2:I'm still glad I did because it is such a beautiful film and the Vietnam War part of it is so subtle and so in the background, and the only place this is in a fairly well-to-do family's home in Saigon, and how you know that we were in Vietnam starting in 1955.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And we got out in— 74. 74. So a really, really long time. It was possibly our longest war. No, we've eclipsed it with Afghanistan at this point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everybody has, that's their longest, war.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Afghanistan.
Speaker 2:But Vietnam, holy smokes. So this is a beautiful film. It's beautiful visually, the audio is incredible. How about?
Speaker 1:piano.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a lot of music. Most of it's original. Well, there's a lot of music, most of it's original but there are a couple of Chopin piano pieces and a couple of Debussy piano pieces At the end that one of the characters is playing. He's a piano player, well, he's a musician. But it's a fairly well-to-do family and the only thing that clues you in to what's happening is there's a curfew every night, so I can't remember if it's nine or 10 o'clock. So you hear the curfew, sirens go off, and then you run around and turn off the lights and go to bed Okay.
Speaker 2:And that's simply part of everyday life and no big deal is made of that, occasionally, if someone's going out remember curfew. But I don't know how to explain how easily. You could watch this whole film and not realize what you're watching, which is some of the brilliance of it. And then it's kind of two parts. I mean, most of it takes place during two years and then it jumps ahead 10 years and the only thing that other than the fact that the economy goes into this horrible slump, but you never directly know why.
Speaker 2:So if you don't know the history of Vietnam at all, you wouldn't know that it had a lot to do with the war and occasionally you hear jets flying over Occasionally and this is one of the few films there are so many beautiful animal noises. And you hear there's a grandmother who prays every day and one of the things she does is she hits a wood block with a stick in a particular rhythm and you hear that. You hear musicians locally playing Vietnamese instruments and the amount of dialogue would be minimal in this particular milieu, in this particular type of home, in this country, in that time, in that time. So it's very much an audio visual experience and it's beautiful and thank you, alison.
Speaker 3:The scent of green papaya.
Speaker 2:Excellent, okay, excellent and just beautiful and oh, wow, so many things about it. It really gave me chills. This week was some sad business. Jimmy carter passed away, yeah, at the age of 100, and so there was a state funeral at the National Cathedral, as per his wishes. He did not lie in state, nor was he buried at Arlington, he was buried in Plains. His funeral service itself, I mean, it was at the National Cathedral, which is an Episcopal institution. Jimmy Carter was James, earl Carter was Baptist, but that's where all of the state funerals are held, regardless of the particular denomination. There haven't been any Buddhist or Jewish presidents that I'm aware of, but the various Christian denominations all have their funerals there. I should not have been surprised that right after the funeral, the body in the motorcade went to Andrews Air Force Base and everyone flew to Plains for the internment. Yeah, and Jimmy Carter was an absolutely extraordinary person.
Speaker 3:Agreed Human being. I don't know. He has to be one of our former presidents, of which I am most proud.
Speaker 2:He walked the walk.
Speaker 3:He really did. He was out there banging nails for habitat for humanity for decades. Well, right up until he could no longer right yeah, see, basically exactly, and we actually talked about that on the show and and it was this past year, the year before, when he had to quit because he couldn't do it anymore, but yeah, he was still out there.
Speaker 2:And he also was Jimmy's. I hate calling him Jimmy, but everyone does. President Carter's cancer was melanoma and he was diagnosed in 2015, 10 years ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At the age of 90. Okay, now, that's usually information. That means you don't have 10 years.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You've got little time At yeah, oh yeah, you've got little time At that age anyway, yeah. But he has been on this new biologic tailored I don't know what you call it treatment, treatment yeah.
Speaker 3:And we know that works, and we know that works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that works. Yeah, um, certainly for a lot of people. Yep, and it kept him alive for a long time and he must have gone on hospice.
Speaker 3:What a year ago uh, yeah, and everyone sort of thought oh, any day now yeah and he kept on keeping on for a year yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I have to say that there were some things about the funeral that I found humorous.
Speaker 3:Oh, one thing I also was going to say, so would you call it a comedy.
Speaker 2:The funeral, yeah, I mean. And if it was winning?
Speaker 3:a Golden Globe Award. Right, if it was up for a Golden.
Speaker 2:Globe. Would it be a comedy Most def.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Right up there with Enora and A Real Pain.
Speaker 3:Right and the piano yeah.
Speaker 2:The piano. Yeah, what's the piano?
Speaker 3:It's a movie. Don't you remember that movie? You talked about it earlier. Oh, the Pianist. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, the Pianist. Well, that was never in the comedy category.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Although these days who knows? Yeah, at any rate. No, that was one of the holocausts, one of the two holocausts.
Speaker 3:Right, he survived.
Speaker 2:Yes that Adrian Brody survived, anyway. Okay. So Jimmy Carter's funeral? I don't think he would. I'm going to give you a for instance. He didn't want to be buried in Arlington, he wanted to be buried in pointe. He didn't believe in the trappings of um, of elevation, he didn't believe in the pomp and circumstance, right um. That's why he famously walked down Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House after the inauguration, which was considered so terribly gauche.
Speaker 3:I don't have a better word right now. You can't do that, it's just not done.
Speaker 2:Well, it's also just so tacky. He didn't want Hale to the chief plate. Well, it's also just it's so tacky, he didn't want Hail to the Chief played. He did not want flourishes. What do you call them? Some things in flourishes Fanfares. Fanfares and flourishes. Yeah, convinced that he really shouldn't. He really should reinstate that practice, because people really want to hear that yeah and I have to say I agree um yeah, it's part of the deal.
Speaker 3:It's. It's part of the, and it may not have been part of the deal for him, but for other people it's part of the deal.
Speaker 2:And that's what they were saying that it was such a huge sign of respect and that makes people kind of stand at attention. Take notice, you know. Get that like feeling. Notice, you know, get that like feeling. I know that when they played the Hail to the Chief and the Flourishes after the funeral, when they were putting the casket into the hearse, whoever was commentating mentioned that he had at one point, you know, said no, we're not doing that, but was finally convinced that, yes, they were doing that and I was glad they did. You know he deserved whatever kind of respect could be brought to the surface or to the interior of any man, woman, child watching. So I appreciated that. But there was some crazy stuff, of course. How could there not be? First of all, I had closed captioning on oh my.
Speaker 3:God.
Speaker 2:I have forgotten this. Oh no, oh wow. My vision has, very unfortunately and discouragingly gotten poor and I'm having surgery. It'll get better. But I put closed captioning on sometimes in order to keep from blowing myself and others out of the room with volume and also because, in the case of this, which was a soprano with a beautiful voice singing Amazing Grace With a beautiful voice oh yeah, Singing Amazing Grace. Now, I knew we were in for something when she started out like this Amazing Grace, All right. When I heard that shrilled R, I thought, oh no.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, we're going to have a thing which we did.
Speaker 2:Wrong. This is not an opera, this isn't an aria. Well, anyhow.
Speaker 3:It was then.
Speaker 2:She started coming up on closed captioning because she was singing and enunciating in a particular way, right.
Speaker 3:Not in a vocal way, but in a singing way. Yes, a singing way, yes, so um, these are some of the things that went across.
Speaker 2:Some of the lines from amazing grace that came across, that's correct. Yeah, um, through many Grady, that's right. Fields and Diddy.
Speaker 3:That's through many Grady Fields and Diddy my shine.
Speaker 2:Did Diddy D Okay I am not kidding you.
Speaker 3:I know, I saw it. You paused it, you made me come into the room.
Speaker 2:I know I said you've got to see this yeah then there was the ditties. Yeah, there's a lot and the grady who's grady?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't remember. He was on sanford and son yes I didn't know.
Speaker 2:He was mentioned in amazing. Well, he was old. Then there was one, two, three, four, two.
Speaker 3:Diddy oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yep, they loved Diddy's One, two, three four, two Diddy, yeah, Now I don't remember that. Count up, count down.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't. I mean in the song, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I mean I have sung that song many a time in my life and I'm not.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's like the third verse, or something most people don't sing, you know so maybe it's a verse we haven't heard I was gobsmacked for a couple of reasons. I love all the ditties. That's pretty great.
Speaker 2:The ditties the one, two, three, four, two ditty, ditty, grady, yeah, fitty, oh yeah, it was just extraordinary and I feel bad for those who because, frankly, I don't care how loud I would have had it or how well I know the lyrics to that gospel song, it was not comprehensible the way that she was singing it, enunciating it, singing it, yeah, enunciating it, um, and, like I say, the minute I heard that grace, I knew, oh boy, yeah, we're in for something.
Speaker 2:We're in for it now. Yeah, um, yeah, I was just thinking I to find that and what? Well, yeah, holy smokes yep, it's the end of the Halloween show for this week, folks well thanks for tuning in for, for better or for worse, a lot got left on the cutting room floor which I may just pick up and dust off next week. And I will simply say for Aubrey Plaza and her late husband, david Baina, please put a light on about things on our minds.
Speaker 1:And now this man, he is a friend of mine. Reach out in the darkness, reach out in the darkness. Reach out in the darkness and you may find A friend. I think it's so groovy now that people are fine again together. I think it's wonderful, and how that people are fine again together. I think it's so groovy now that people are fine again together. I think it's wonderful, and how that people are fine again together. Don't be afraid of love, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid, don't be afraid to love. Listen to me. Everybody needs a little love. Everybody needs somebody that they can be thinking of Now. Reach out, reach out in the darkness, reach out in the darkness. Reach out in the darkness. Reach out in the darkness and you may find a friend. I think it's so groovy now that people are finally getting together. I think it's wonderful now that people are finally getting together. I think it's wonderful.
