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Ginger Says:
Spring has more or less arrived, bringing with it a sense of rebirth and vibrant energy! In this episode of The Anne Levine Show starring Michael Over There™, we celebrate the New England Daffodil Festival, a dazzling spectacle that showcases the beauty of spring blossoms, and invite you to imagine wandering through fields of radiant daffodils. This festive season breathes life back into nature, and we reflect on how it parallels the glitz of the Oscars—a night where creativity and opulence shine just as brightly.
We delve into the Fashions of Oscar night, recounting looks that stole the show and the conversations that stirred the audience's imagination with those bold fashion choices. From Emma Stone's unique style creating buzz and sparking debate to Halle Berry delivering timeless elegance, we take a deep dive into what these sartorial statements signify for the celebrities and their engagement with the public eye. Plus, Michael thought that Cynthia Erivo looked like The Bride of Dracula™. Our conversation gracefully shifts to explore the unfortunate news surrounding Gene Hackman and his enduring legacy as a film icon.
Additionally, we discuss current film releases, with recommendations that viewers may find engaging. We touch upon Bob Dylan's significant cultural impact, comparing him to today's celebrities and questioning the evolving nature of artistry and recognition in entertainment, and by that we mean the ridiculous amounts of money these people are paid.
There's more stuff like books, mothers, television, and gratuitous sex (to boost the ratings).
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Speaker 1:W-O-M-R 92.1 FM, provincetown. And that over there is Michael. She is always right, always right, hello, hello, welcome to the Ann Levine Show. It's Tuesday, march 4th 2025. And Michael has chosen Hot, hot, hot as our opener.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Any reason in particular.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Well, let me first introduce you. This is Michael over there. Star of the Anne Levine Show.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:So tell me about your choice.
Speaker 2:Well, I picked it because of the singer.
Speaker 1:Okay, and the singer is.
Speaker 2:Is Buster Poindexter.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, yeah, yeah so you know, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's topical.
Speaker 1:It is topical, yeah, and it's New York. You know I love it, david Joe Hanson.
Speaker 2:Topical. It is topical, yeah, and it's New York, you know.
Speaker 1:I love it. David Johansson, david.
Speaker 2:Johansson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, and it's a party song you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know he was the singer on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, happy March 5th, happy Daylight Savings is coming on.
Speaker 2:Sunday, sunday, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Yep, so we're slouching towards spring. Yeah, we're a couple weeks away.
Speaker 2:Well, I think the trees and birds have already decided.
Speaker 1:Well, that's how it goes Generally Nature Makes the choice.
Speaker 2:And it's pretty much Spring around here.
Speaker 1:It's getting to be there.
Speaker 2:We do have some little Snowdrops, the flowers.
Speaker 1:They're blooming Really yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow Over in the corner of the yard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and a lot of the springtime birds are back, you know yeah, someplace in Massachusetts I'm not sure where it is Does this big daffodil festival?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I saw something about that, I sent it to you probably.
Speaker 1:And I think it's in Springfield.
Speaker 2:I think it is, yeah, a lot going on in Springfield.
Speaker 1:And there's a big walk involved up a hill in getting to— it's like in the middle of a big park of some kind, right, but it's not up close. You have to take a long hike.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you got to do some walking yeah.
Speaker 1:And you have to go up a hill and then suddenly you're like in magic land.
Speaker 2:Right, you're in fairy land. Thousands and thousands of daffodils. Bursting out everywhere I mean it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1:It'll be April-ish no it'll be on the schedule, yeah, so those of you interested look it up, I'll look it up and we'll get you know.
Speaker 2:we'll figure it out. We'll figure it all out, that's right.
Speaker 1:Oscar night. It was on Sunday and Michael and I were there for the fashion which is why we're there.
Speaker 2:We were not there for the— I was digging the jewelry. Yes you— A lot of very cool jewelry.
Speaker 1:There was a lot yeah.
Speaker 2:And just you know, obviously insanely expensive jewelry, you know, but gorgeous, my goodness.
Speaker 1:One of the most interesting looks of the night, I thought was Emma Stone, who was who was first of all cut off all her hair so, and she had like a little bit of a finger wave going on.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:In the front. So there was a definite flapper. Look to it no jewelry, none Okay, and a nude color dress and a nude color dress, and so she kind of looked nude. I don't know how to explain it. It looked like she might get big kudoy for being terribly, terribly modern and chic.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure You're not excited about it, though, for being terribly, terribly modern and chic. Uh-huh, I'm not sure You're not excited about it, though.
Speaker 1:Well, she truly looked nude. I can't explain it. She looked like naked Barbie. You know no genitals, right, yeah, there was just nothing, not the hair.
Speaker 2:The hair's gone, just a little off from her skin color.
Speaker 1:yeah, Barely Barely off from her skin color, the dress. Yeah, I'm actually looking at a photo and it had, I don't know, 28,000 crystals or something, yeah something, but they were tiny, I don't know. It was not an easy look for me yeah one of my favorites of the night was hallie berry in christian siriano. She looked amazing. I saw two color trends. I saw blush the color and silver.
Speaker 2:Silver was huge, metallic it was everywhere, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so Halle Berry was one of those who was in a mirrored bodice. Yeah, and Christian Siriano wow.
Speaker 2:Actually, it was the whole front of the dress that was mirrored. Yeah. And Christian Siriano wow, actually it was the whole front of the dress that was mirrored, yeah, and he is brilliant, not easy to pull off. No, the other woman and she's got. Her hair is kind of down and it's got a little tiny flip, flip. She looks great, she looks great.
Speaker 1:She looks stunning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's Halle Berry. It's hard for her not to look great, but she looks even better than normal.
Speaker 1:She looked like she should look.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she looked elegant, hollywood, you know, she looked perfect. Yep, she looked perfect.
Speaker 1:Yep, and the other woman that Christian dressed. I'm sure there are others, but that I know of was Whoopi Goldberg. Oh yeah, Whoopi, yeah, who was wearing a gown, which is not something that Whoopi does very often. Whoopi has won a tremendous, has lost a tremendous amount of weight yeah, tremendous, absolutely incredible. And she looks like she did when she first started doing one-woman shows. I agree 40 years ago, or whatever it was.
Speaker 2:She's back to her like yeah, young.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know like the way she was in her 20s. Yeah, she know like the way she was in her 20s, yeah.
Speaker 2:She looks fabulous.
Speaker 1:And she really did. She looked so young and the dress was so glam and such an incredible color, like a kind of a steel blue Kind of a mercury yeah, a mercurial sort of look to it too. Yeah, it was like slithery, not silver, but it had a metallic.
Speaker 2:Kind of like a gunmetal. Yeah, yeah, but it was a blue.
Speaker 1:It was cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it defies description, obviously yeah you have to see a picture to know what I mean. And, better yet, see some video, because when it moves, it's you know yeah. It's also very impressive.
Speaker 1:Cynthia Erivo gets my mic drop. Dress of the night.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Louis Vuitton couture dark, dark, dark green, velvet. It looked like it was black at first, but then, when you saw it, with some lights hitting it and close up, it was this wonderful dark green velvet forest green yeah. And the construction of the dress just extraordinary yeah it was pretty cool yeah. And she had this insane nail game going that Michael found finds very ugly.
Speaker 2:It finds very ugly. Yeah, I don't think the manufactured nail thing is attractive at all. You know they're four inches long. There are chains and crystals and zippers and a clock and all this other stuff attached to them.
Speaker 1:It was all stuff from Wicked. Yeah, it was all stuff from Wicked. Yeah, it was all imagery from Wicked. Now I found it, knowing that right, I found it very cool and fun. You know, she was having fun. She was wearing an incredibly serious dress.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Although it does look. I don't know. It's architectural, I mean there's Count Dracula's bride kind of look to it Okay, I've never seen Count Dracula's bride. She'd be wearing something like this. Nope.
Speaker 1:Nope, that's just wrong. Wrong, what you are saying. What you are saying is wrong. Well, you know I don't think so, I know you don't, yeah, but but it is wrong. I know you don't think so, but the fact is it was an incredible Louis Vuitton couture dress and it was a salute to Shut up. It was a salute to Hattie McDaniel, actually, and if Cynthia wins tonight, she would be the youngest EGOT, oh okay, and I think maybe the second African-American female EGOT, whoopi being the first.
Speaker 2:Whoopi's won.
Speaker 1:Anyway, there were a lot of interesting stories like that about what, if, what could happen if so-and-so wins whatever. I personally found this to be an incredibly disappointing season for movies.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I saw the one. I saw two films that turned my crank. One was Conclave, Right and because it is topical.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, when you saw it, it wasn't even as topical as it is today.
Speaker 1:Oh, not at all. You know, not at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's now become like uh-oh, we're almost there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, depending on what happens to Pope Francis.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:There might be a conclave. Yeah, he's not doing well there might be a concluse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not doing well. So, although he was somewhat improved from, let's say, a week ago, last I heard, I don't know- A few days ago, I guess, he got up and walked around for a little bit with some help and everything. But, like the next day, his respiration, he was having problems breathing, oh really, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, he might have had his quote, quickening, quote, brightening on that day, and oftentimes someone who's dying suddenly has a kind of miracle day oh yeah where they really perk up and I know so many stories of this right and then that's kind of it yeah so I don't know, but there might be a conclave soon, and so the film conclave.
Speaker 1:I once again I'm going to recommend it, if for nothing else, if you don't know what a conclave is or how it works or what takes place there, check it out. It's very interesting. Also not for nothing. This film stars Rafe.
Speaker 2:Fiennes.
Speaker 1:John Lithgow, Stanley Tucci, Isabella Rossellini.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I know I'm— and everybody else, yeah, and all the other people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they all wear dresses, which is so fun, mm-hmm. And yeah, I had one on the other day, do you remember that? And they all wear dresses, which is so fun, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I had one on the other day. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I do remember it Even. I, even, I, even Michael, that's right has been known very occasionally to put on a dress. So what else? Conclave? Oh, I watched a complete unknown, oh, that's right. Yeah, I loved it and I need to preface, preface it by saying not a bob dylan fan, never was. Not a Bob Dylan fan, never was. And I have issues with the fact that they gave him a Nobel Prize in literature for his lyrics. Yeah, yeah, I still have problems with that. When it gets mentioned to me.
Speaker 2:He didn't accept it, though did he.
Speaker 1:He didn't refuse it, but he wouldn't go get it, so I don't know who he sent. Some gopher had to go to Stockholm to pick up his medal, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Bummer and his check.
Speaker 1:What kind of check do they get? There's a check, is there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know there was prize money.
Speaker 1:I thought it was just enough to be nominated, or just enough to be a winner, but whatever so, complete Unknown. I'm a fan. I saw amelia perez, I saw a nora. I'm not voting for either one of those to win anything. Um what else?
Speaker 2:yeah, they actually have a. It's not a huge amount of money they awarded. They have 11 million kroner that they are allowed to give out, and they can give it up to three different recipients. I don't know if Bob would have been one of them, so anyway, yeah, yeah, I would think that—and 11 million kroner is what. A little over a million dollars.
Speaker 1:Right, so no, you don't get a lot of money for a million dollars Right. So no you don't get a lot of money for a Nobel Prize, no, and I would imagine. But you might get a check.
Speaker 2:You never know. Three of you are going to get one, so that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:How many winners are there every year?
Speaker 2:A lot. It's kind of a crapshoot whether you're going to get a check.
Speaker 1:It's a crapshoot. Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, three out of I don't know, 100 or whatever. The odds aren't high.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's not exactly know swedish bingo, it's not like they're. They're not pulling, you know uh ping pong balls, uh out of the no and saying, oh you know, I wonder who gets a check I wonder how they choose the up to three people?
Speaker 2:You know they split it.
Speaker 1:I bet it's up to three yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shared among up to three people. That's how the war is. I don't know, maybe they all go out to dinner somewhere really expensive.
Speaker 1:That's how the word is. I don't know. Maybe they all go out to dinner somewhere really expensive. I mean a million dollars a hundred people.
Speaker 2:Right, I don't know. Take them all out to dinner and you might be done, yeah, yeah, depending on where, right I think that.
Speaker 1:I mean certainly if you go to Cream and Cone, right, yep, you're done A hundred of you.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, yeah, you're going to need another loan, you're going to need another loan. I mean, you got your $1,035,000, but you're going to need some money too.
Speaker 1:A $1,035,000?. Yeah, I would imagine and hope that it is based on need to some degree. Um, miss matvichuk, who took home the nobel prize to ukraine three years ago two years, uh, alexander matvichuk two two years ago, um and she, of course, is not a person of means uh, and was all about spreading the word about ukraine and raising money for ukraine. I don't know. I think there are plenty of people that are probably spearheading causes that are meaningful and where some money would mean something. Bob Dylan is not a cause.
Speaker 1:It's not meaningful, isn't doing anything. I don't know, he's just not.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine. He wrote some songs. Come on.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine how much money that guy has. So I hope that the Nobel Committee is factoring that into their decisions as well. If you're a multi, multi, multi, I can't imagine what Bob Dylan's net worth is. It's got to be through the roof. Hopefully he doesn't get a check. And whether he shows up for even if he skips the meal. No, he doesn't get a check. Anyway, I loved the meal. No, he doesn't get a check. Anyway, I loved the movie.
Speaker 2:And as my brother said about Timothy Shown, he's only worth about half a billion dollars. Yeah, so and just royalties from radio only give him about $15 million a year.
Speaker 1:They only give him about $15 million a year. Yeah, so I hope to God that Stockholm didn't give him any money. No, I don't imagine they did, but they could have.
Speaker 2:He could have been one of them, he could have been a winner.
Speaker 1:That's right. It's so nauseating that he's worth that. I sure hope he's—.
Speaker 2:Okay, now I agree with you. I totally agree with you on culture, over such a long period of time that some of that, I would say, is definitely earned Versus, as opposed to Ryan Seacrest, who's worth the same amount, whose big accomplishment is keeping up with the Kardashians, whose big accomplishment is keeping up with the Kardashians.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and who's earning? $28 million a year to do Wheel of Frickin' Fortune.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, Pat got 13, by the way.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Vanna gets three. Three, yeah, and I hate everyone.
Speaker 2:And Ryan Seacrest gets $28 million.
Speaker 1:Just for that gig.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and for those of you who don't know, keeping Up With the Kardashians exists because Ryan Seacrest produced the show. He decided it was a worthy endeavor, enough to fund it. And uh, boy he's. He's made his money. Yes, he has, but I don't, I wouldn't say he's earned it in the same way that bob dylan has. You know, you know what I mean yeah, I don't know yes, he's also changed the culture.
Speaker 1:Exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 2:Yes, he is also.
Speaker 1:He's had a profound effect.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, but I don't think in a positive way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. I think that in a toss-up between Bob Dylan and Ryan Seacrest there are so many aspects of that comparison.
Speaker 2:You know what it might be. Let's have a sing-off.
Speaker 1:Well, we don't know do we?
Speaker 2:I know Ryan could suck and still win, so you know.
Speaker 1:Well, like I was saying, I was talking to my brother who said he thought Timothy Chalamet, who was trying to sound like Bob Dylan, and was successful to a great degree.
Speaker 2:It was reminiscent of right, A lot of it.
Speaker 1:I would say more than reminiscent of Okay, he did a damn good.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, and what did your brother say?
Speaker 1:He said he's better than Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2:Ah, well, see, there you go.
Speaker 1:No, there you go, there you go. No, there you go. Anyhow, I really enjoyed that film. I thought edward norton was fantastic as pete seger. Uh, really fantastic.
Speaker 2:That guy is an amazing actor yeah, yeah, and so is Timothee Chalamet. Timothee Chalamet is too. I absolutely agree.
Speaker 1:So, and it was, there were a lot of things I didn't know. I didn't know that Bob Dylan first came to New York to go visit Woody Guthrie in the hospital. Right visit Woody Guthrie in the hospital. Right, I didn't know that Woody Guthrie was in the hospital dying a slow, horrendous, nightmarish death with Huntington's disease, which is ALS, essentially the nightmare disease of all nightmare diseases. So I didn't know that at all and it pretty much winds up at the Newport Folk Festival, made incredibly famous by the fact that Bob broke the hearts of the folkies of the world by playing an electric guitar.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which seems so hilarious now.
Speaker 2:It was such a scandal, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:Oh, and Pete Seeger running around trying to get them to cut the sound. And it was just, and of course, pete and bob who had been like best pals. Yeah, had a long feud um, after that, but when would he? Whatever?
Speaker 2:Anyway, so odd, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I know I recommend that film. I recommend Conclave.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I have not seen the Brutalist and kind of doubt that I will, unless I hear otherwise so far.
Speaker 2:I've heard you saw, anora. Oh I did see, anora yeah.
Speaker 1:And I couldn't deal with that film at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It looked like it was shot on an iPhone, which it may have been, I don't know. Which it may have been, I don't know. The story was as predictable as they get.
Speaker 2:You've seen most of the movie. You saw Emilia Perez.
Speaker 1:I did you did too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's going to win something, something, right? I don't know things. Uh, at any rate, yeah, what do I know? We didn't watch that part. We just were there for the fashion exactly, okay.
Speaker 1:Uh, the fashion. Speaking of the fashion, I read a book that came to me from the weirdest person that I've ever taken a book recommendation from. Okay, and that is Ginger Feimster, fortune Feimster's mother.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Who on Fortune Feimster's old podcast Podcast is like. The most recent episode was two years ago, I think is when she stopped doing it. But she was on as a guest on fortune show one day and doing book recommendations okay and several of the books she recommended were things that I have read and enjoyed, so I thought, well, all right, ginger, I will read the gown by Jennifer Robeson.
Speaker 2:Now having been convinced by ginger it wasn't so much she didn't.
Speaker 1:She picked out of a list of she's a voracious reader okay, and she picked 10, that she narrowed it down to 10 that she was recommending. So she read this list and I. Several of them are things I had read and enjoyed so I thought all right, I'll give this one a go. Do this one yeah, I get it, and it is about the making of queen elizabeth's wedding dress. That's the overall story, okay, and it gets into two stories in particular of two of the women who are in charge of the embroidery.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And it—.
Speaker 2:So no singing mice or birds or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Believe it or not. Putting this dress together no.
Speaker 2:Not even for a princess that's weird. Or a queen? Was she a queen at the time? Or was she still a princess?
Speaker 1:No, she was a princess. Her dad was still alive.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:At any rate it was her wedding dress and if you're interested in fashion, if you're interested in how dresses get made, this is an incredible look into what's involved in particular in a wedding dress and it having to do with the fabric, and how hard it is to work with the color. You know you go wash your hands like every 10 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:All sorts of stuff, stuff.
Speaker 1:And, as I say, this was about two of the embroiderers who were incredible story about embroiderers and of course it went into all these personal stories um which I don't know that I recommend it for those parts of it. A lot of it was incredibly predictable. However, I thoroughly enjoyed most of this book. So if you're interested in sewing, if you're interested in embroidery, needlework, fashion, in embroidery, needlework fashion and in particular, you know this is late 40s, going on into early 50s, and then embroidery as an art, this is a very interesting book and I have to say thank you, ginger Feimimster, because I never would have known that this book existed, let alone read it okay, I see, and now you're telling everybody else so yeah there you go there's another book that I'm just starting at I'm like only about three chapters in, and it's called Isola.
Speaker 1:It's the story of a woman, but it starts out when she's a girl. This takes place in the 16th century. It's pretty fascinating so far because in part of when it takes place and how things were done at that time not that all of this is is gone from the face of the earth you marrying off a girl at 14 years old is not unheard of.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:However.
Speaker 2:It certainly, I mean, may not be as common in the Western world, but you know, globally it happens quite a bit.
Speaker 1:And in parts of this country too. So, anyway, she doesn't actually get married in this case, but that's part of the beginning of this, this and this. This life, uh, of a young girl, a little girl, and then, as she gets older, is where we're heading, and I find it fascinating to read about this time in history because it's really so recent. It seems like ancient, you know whatever, but it's just medieval times.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, it's just Ren Faire or whatever.
Speaker 2:It's 500 years ago, which you know, in.
Speaker 1:It's nothing.
Speaker 2:In history is a little blip.
Speaker 1:And what's most fascinating to me is how little some things have changed, and it's also a great look into the future in that way. I don't assume that 500 years from now, if there still is this planet, um, oh, the planet will be here.
Speaker 2:We might not be, but yeah, who? You and I? No humans, you know we might. We might blow ourselves up or whatever. Whatever we end up doing in 500 years, but uh, planet will be fine yes, but the future of men?
Speaker 1:yeah. Well, if, if we're still around, if human beings are still around in the year 2525. God, that's now. How scary is that? No, that's 500 years from now, oh, 2525.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was thinking 2025.
Speaker 2:That's so cool.
Speaker 1:In the year 2525. Yep, yep. That just reminded me of the most hilarious thing I saw on instagram okay which was this guy saying in all seriousness to to a couple of people I don't know if it was his friends or family. Someone was taking a video of him.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Saying I can't believe it. I can't believe it. This year Christmas is going to be on 25, 25, 25.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Yep and oh boy, Someone got him.
Speaker 1:Exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a thing. There are memes going around. Oh really oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Saying that yes, 25, 25, 25?, yep.
Speaker 2:And some people apparently just glance at it and like, oh my god, that's right because, yeah, it will be december 25th 2025.
Speaker 1:But well, yeah, it'll be 12, 25, 25 anyhow. Yeah, um Instagram, my new world. So Isola is by Allegra Goodman, is the book I was just talking about, and the Gown by Jennifer Robeson. I don't know if either book will interest any of my usual.
Speaker 2:Oh, the folks you're usually giving a book, that usually take my recommendations.
Speaker 1:I'm not pushing hard on either one of these. Okay, I've made it kind of clear.
Speaker 2:Obviously the fashion thing that's in your blood, so you know that's going to be very interesting to you.
Speaker 1:Well, exactly, yeah, and I can just picture the whole damn thing. So, yes, if any of that's in your blood or if any of that interests you, or if you're interested in, you know, the crown, if you're a fan of the crown, right, yeah, this is. I recommend this for those people as well, those people, yeah, those people.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the weirdest thing happened last week, and I don't believe there's been any more news released about it any more news released about it, but gene hackman, age 96, his wife, who was in her late 60s, yeah, and their dog, mid-60s, and their dog, one of their three dogs, um, all found dead after a welfare check was done.
Speaker 2:Someone had not been able to contact gene or his wife yeah, one of the one of the uh, like the workers that are around the house, yeah.
Speaker 1:For quite some time, and so the police were called to do a welfare check. And in two separate breaths, gene was in one bedroom, his wife was in another, the dog was in a cage in a closet. All dead, yep, those three souls. I consider a dog a closet. All dead, yep, those three souls. I consider a dog a soul. And there were some, certainly some weird.
Speaker 2:Well, no doors locked. One door left open which allowed the other two dogs to go in and out. Yeah, prescription locked. One door left open which allowed the other two dogs to go in and out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. Prescription pills were found scattered around.
Speaker 2:It's like she fell on the floor. It suddenly fell is what they're you know. They say it looks like yeah.
Speaker 1:What that happened to his wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they were found with her in the bathroom.
Speaker 1:The pills were, I didn't know. I thought she was in bed.
Speaker 2:No, she wasn't in bed, so she was in a separate bedroom. Somewhere standing and she fell and the pills fell and so did a little space heater that was on a shelf.
Speaker 1:Well, it sounds like at first glance, which probably means well, I don't know what it means. It sounds like perhaps he passed away and she took her own life, or maybe she took his life and she took her own life, or maybe she took his life, then she took her own life.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The whole thing with the dog being found in a cage in the closet dead is just so weird. I don't know, I don't know who knows, but what an absolutely bizarro story, yeah yeah. It does not seem real or possible. What do you think?
Speaker 2:I don't know what's going on. I've read, you know, most of what's been written about it and a lot of updates and there's a lot of background, but I still don't know what's going on. And toxicology and all that other stuff no one's going to know any of that for a while what are the updates? Well, there's, you know more background like um about what betsy did and and their life together and how they met and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:How long were they married, do you?
Speaker 2:know, 30 years. Hmm, okay, something like that, yeah.
Speaker 1:And do we know any? What did she do for a living?
Speaker 2:Well, she co-founded a home decor place called Pandora's in Santa Fe.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, they lived in New Mexico, yeah.
Speaker 2:She did a whole bunch of stuff. She was involved in different businesses and, of course, gene Gene, I think quit acting in 2009, 2004, 2009,. One of those two after he did what's the?
Speaker 1:what's the?
Speaker 2:Welcome to Mooseport.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he retired after that. So he's just been kind of hanging out in New Mexico since. Hmm.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Mooseport.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what was that? I can get you more on it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I just I've never heard of it and I don't remember it. Gene Hackman was such an amazing actor.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But, as has been happening, that generation those of whom are still around are dropping like flies. He was 96 years old and had an extraordinary life, so I'm certainly I can't say I'm in deep mourning about his passing, but I loved him.
Speaker 2:I think he wrote books he had had a couple books he painted, yeah, and he did all kinds of stuff and welcome to moose port. Let's see, that was, uh, that was 2004, and it was he was like playing uh an ex-president who retired back to his hometown of Mooseport, wherever the heck that is. And then Ray Romano enters the picture and hilarity ensues. Oh a comedy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what about the Untouchables? Didn't he win the Oscar for that?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Best supporting actor. He should have. He played that. Wait, was that Hackman?
Speaker 2:Or am I getting confused, oh?
Speaker 1:no, I'm thinking of Sean Connery. Yeah, okay, never mind. Did he win for French Connection. Good question Did he win an Oscar for that one?
Speaker 2:Well, I know the movie won. Some didn't it?
Speaker 1:I don't know, that was so long ago, yeah. But I have just established my deep knowledge of Gene Hackman's oeuvre yeah, which is. I don't know a damn thing except that, yeah, hackman's oeuvre, yeah, which is. I don't know a damn thing Except that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hackman won Best Actor and the film won Best Director, best Film Editing, best Adapted Screenplay. Oh no, those are nominations. Okay, and won five. Okay, it won Best Picture, best Actor, best Director, best Editing and Best Adapted Screenplay.
Speaker 1:Wow, but it was nominated for eight. So it swept.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it is a nail-biter. I love that movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's fantastic. It's such a great movie.
Speaker 2:yeah Did watch that film if you've never seen it.
Speaker 1:The chase scenes in it are just oh they're like some of the best cinema and I can ever put on that part of the road there under the l, which does not exist anymore. But uh, yeah, if you're, if you're an old New Yorker like myself, you may recognize some of these places. Anyway, fantastic film, french Connection, gene Hackman, I would say, do a little, watch it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you want to see another amazing film with Gene Hackman in it Mississippi Burning.
Speaker 1:Oh, one of my favorite films of all time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, and he is, he is amazing in it. He's not likable, but he is amazing. He is amazing and so many of actually so many of the characters that he played were very unlikable people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well.
Speaker 2:Most of them were not likable, but for some reason I never. I don't have anything negative attached to my feelings about Gene Hackman. He played awful people, but I'm like ah, what a great actor. Quite often, if you're always playing bad guys or horrible people, I end up feeling like they're a horrible person. I never got that off of Gene yeah, of Gene yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I wish I had his filmography in front of me, but I don't, man, I know there are tons of films that I'm forgetting.
Speaker 2:Well, there's Poseidon Adventure. That was a huge one. Oh my gosh Right.
Speaker 1:Bonnie and Clyde. Okay, see that's the thing. Um, of course, I've seen unforgiven. Oh, that was also not a very nice guy in that one. No, but what an amazing film, yeah, and it's no wonder that so many directors and filmmakers desperately tried to get him to make more movies After his comedic turn in Welcome to.
Speaker 2:Mooseport yeah, he did, I guess he, you know he did some narration for TV documentaries and stuff like that, but by 2017, he wasn't doing any more work with Hollywood at all.
Speaker 1:Well, that makes sense. Eight years ago he was what? 88 years old, what 88 years old? So anyway, uh, very sad to hear about this whole story, yeah, and I cannot cannot imagine what happened in that house, but it will probably come to light. He's got kids, right. I don't know when you get to be 96, the idea of being pre-deceased by one of your kids is not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's a little more like the odds are a little higher, yeah, or a little more in your favor if you're getting that age.
Speaker 1:I had a cousin for lack of a better term term um, she passed away at the age of 105, I think she was, and she was pre-deceased by two of her kids, yeah, who were in their 70s when they died. I know, isn't that something. And this is a woman who ran away from Russia to avoid getting killed. Yep husband moved to Israel pre-mandate planting eucalyptus, all that stuff. True pioneers, but living that long can be a blessing and not so much of a blessing, depending on the circumstances.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Living.
Speaker 2:I've been to an 11th birthday party Tell us about that At a nursing home, this Norwegian woman she was 113, and they had a party for her and I was there.
Speaker 1:And you call it an 11-3rd birthday party?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because it's, you know, 1-1-3. 11-3. See what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So she was 113 years old, and she slept through most of the party, which I didn't blame her, because it wasn't all that exciting anyway.
Speaker 1:Well, but you did.
Speaker 2:But she looked adorable.
Speaker 1:Did you have cake? Of course you did. There was cake.
Speaker 2:There was other yeah, there was other kind of stuff around there. That was pretty good.
Speaker 1:How was the cake? It was good, yeah, I'm thrilled. Kieran Culkin, I heard of him. Well, he won an Academy Award for A Real Pain, which is the other film.
Speaker 2:Oh, right, right, right, we've talked about that before the jesse eisenberg. Yes, that was. That was a a really nice film. Yeah, see, it seems like maybe you've not only you've only missed like one of the movies. What the brutalist, or yeah. And then, uh, what's is the one? Wicked, I'm wicked. Yeah, there you go the substance, yeah okay, so you've missed list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then Wicked.
Speaker 2:I'm.
Speaker 1:Wicked, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:The Substance. Okay, so you missed three. That's it. I've seen all the rest.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. I don't know. Aren't there like ten films on?
Speaker 2:that list. Next year there's going to be like thirty To keep adding.
Speaker 1:Can you read me the list? And next year there's going to be like 30. Oh, to keep adding, can you read me?
Speaker 2:the list of best films, or do you not have access to that? I don't have any of that up over here at the moment. All right, I got other stuff I'm doing. I'm pushing the buttons. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's for sure. Very successfully Very successfully Best film nominees Amelia.
Speaker 2:Perez yeah, see, see, you saw that one.
Speaker 1:A Complete Unknown, saw that one Conclave Nickel Boys.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, you didn't see that one. But you didn't see that one because you also read that book, right, did you say yeah, I've read, you know this story.
Speaker 1:The Ta-Nehisi Coates books and it's too upsetting, yeah, and it was almost too difficult to read and I definitely didn't want to see it. Yeah, I'm Still here, didn't see? I don't know what that is. Yeah, me too. The Substance Did not see Dune. The Substance did not see Dune Part 2, did not see Wicked, did not see the Brutalist, did not see Wow. So I actually did not see most of them.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well then, the ones you saw should have been getting the award. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah. Yeah, that was beautifully put, by the way. No, really, yeah, thank you, thank you. So Michael and I have been how do I put this? We have been desperately trying to take off our winter 10. That's what I'm calling mine. I gained 10 pounds this winter, oh yeah. Pounds this winter, oh yeah. And I don't know how many pounds michael gained, but we are both desperately trying to take off the weight we gained over the winter yeah, and it's not going very well we are trying so hard.
Speaker 1:I mean, I mean wow, yeah, sorry, we have come to this point.
Speaker 2:No time to even talk about how hard we've been trying.
Speaker 1:Okay, but we are trying. We are. It's not working. No, so I just want to say that my diet mainly consists of celery salad and chicken.
Speaker 2:Which is good, very, very good.
Speaker 1:And it's delicious celery salad, but it's celery and cucumbers mainly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, oh, you got some chickpeas in there for protein.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah. So that's pretty much been it Tonight. We did have a special onion we had carb-free onion rings.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, I'll save that news for next week. For this week, I'd like to say a sad farewell to David Johansson, aka Buster Poindexter, someone that I used to see quite often in New York when I was a teen the New York when I was a teen, the New York Dolls and I'm very sad that he passed away. So for David, please put a light on I said take this child Lord from Tucson Arizona.
Speaker 3:Give her the wings to fly through harmony, and she won't bother you no more. This is the story of how we begin to remember. This is the powerful pulsing of love in the vein After the dream of falling and calling your name out. These are the roots of rhythm, and the roots of rhythm remain Da-doom-ba-doom-ba-doom-ba-oh, da-doom-ba-doom-ba-doom-ba-boom-ba-boom-ba-oh, da-boom-ba-boom-ba-boom-ba-oh, da-boom-ba-boom-ba-boom-ba-oh. Joseph's face was as black as the night and the pale yellow moon shone in his eyes. His path was marked by the stars in the southern hemisphere and he walked the length of his days under African skies.
