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Bikinis to Beekeeping
Remember when summer meant carelessly tossing aside clothes and jumping into any body of water without a second thought? Those days are long gone for many of us, as we shared stories of our dramatic transformation from "bikini queens" to looking like "beekeepers" with our rash guards, wide-brimmed hats, and mineral sunscreen sporting the highest SPF available. It's just one of those peculiar aging realities we never saw coming – wearing more clothing in summer than winter!
Spring's arrival brings not just warmer weather but resilient flowers pushing through against all odds. The humble daffodil emerges as our unexpected hero, indifferent to freezing temperatures and willing to force its way through snow, concrete, and even the ashes of burned homes. This natural determination feels like the perfect metaphor for human resilience during challenging times. Meanwhile, daylight saving time continues its divisive tradition, though most of us seem ready to abandon this outdated practice of temporal gymnastics.
Fashion takes center stage with predictions for this season's palette – seafoam green paired with navy and white accents, directly inspired by tennis stars at Indian Wells. We venture into media recommendations with the documentary "Will and Harper" on Netflix, a touching exploration of friendship and transgender transition featuring Will Ferrell and his longtime friend Harper Steele. For literary enthusiasts, "Isola" by Allegra Goodman offers historical fiction based on a rare 16th-century story about a French woman. We couldn't resist diving into the bizarre yet fascinating world of "Love Is Blind," where people get engaged without seeing each other first, and Hobbit-themed hotels catering to Lord of the Rings enthusiasts. The episode closes with a heartfelt tribute to Carl Dean, Dolly Parton's husband of over 60 years who recently passed away. Ready to embrace spring with us? Subscribe now for weekly conversations that wander through life's peculiarities with humor and heart.
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Speaker 1:And that over there is Michael. She is always right, always right. Hello, welcome to the Ann Levine Show. It's Tuesday, march 13th, something like that, something like that. We got some love hurts going here being spun by Michael over there.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello.
Speaker 1:You're listening to us on WOMR 92.1 FM in Provincetown.
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Speaker 1:ORG sorry.
Speaker 2:I just say ORG, because people know. They don't have to interpret what I'm saying. So why are we getting some love?
Speaker 1:hurts. Well, yeah, so people know they don't have to interpret what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So why are we getting some love hurts? Well, you've been watching a television show.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, I have, and.
Speaker 2:I thought this might go along with it a little bit.
Speaker 1:I don't know Well the TV show is very much on my list of things to get to?
Speaker 2:Oh, I figured, yes, yeah, looking for a topical sort of intro.
Speaker 1:I didn't know if you had any other reason. Okay, some love hurts, some love doesn't. I can't write a limerick, and that's why my name is Alfred P Ludden. Yeah, I don't know what I just said. Yeah me too.
Speaker 2:None of us do.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know I had a conversation today with a friend of mine, with, whom.
Speaker 1:I went to college and we were talking about like we didn't start out talking about this, but the feeling of aging, like since we were in college, when in the summer we would just throw our clothes off and jump into whatever body of water, naked or barely covered in some little scrap of something, and oh, no big worry about sunscreen or anything. And now we were laughing, comparing what we wear. I am always in a long-sleeve rash guard with a big hat, sunglasses with the big hat, sunglasses and mineral sunscreen, which gives me a cast of white.
Speaker 2:And it's at least 50 SPF, if not 100.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:And she said well, I can do you one better. I wear linen trousers, oh, and a big, really wide-brimmed hat with kind of a veil over it. She said I look like a beekeeper.
Speaker 2:I'm getting a Katharine Hepburn vibe off of that.
Speaker 1:Well, she sent me photographs and it's hilarious hilarious because she was the bikini queen Right. And now we're all. We wear more clothes in summer than we do in winter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which it's coming.
Speaker 2:It is coming.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, it is Daylight savings.
Speaker 2:We did the ridiculous time change the dumbest thing that time-traveling nonsense. Yeah, I hate it. It's awful. It just makes no sense anymore really to me.
Speaker 1:I find that it's less difficult in spring. Going forward is less difficult for me than going back.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I tend to go the other way. I don't like springing forward.
Speaker 1:I don't mind that. Going back is that it's like okay, it's getting darker every night. Whoa, let's make it darker even earlier.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, there is that.
Speaker 1:There's that which never starts to feel okay until around this time of the year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when they give us some sunlight back, when it's naturally the days are getting longer.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then vroom, let's put it into fifth gear. That's right. Well, anyway, like that, I hope you had a happy daylights.
Speaker 2:Saving time's day Saving time entry.
Speaker 1:I hope you had a soft landing.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And no problems. I hope you didn't miss anything, right.
Speaker 2:I hope you didn't miss an appointment, or right?
Speaker 1:I hope there was already people like oh no, I'm an hour early to work. Oh no, I'm an hour late to work whatever it was, yeah, I missed a class yeah, it used to be all the time yep yep and then they changed it. You you know it used to switch on sunday night, monday morning.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, well, yeah, of course it makes sense that they changed it then, because they're not losing people on Monday morning, at least as many, right, because of the time change.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so now it's Saturday night, Sunday morning, Right?
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I don't like the idea at all. I think the idea is dumb. Okay, well, I don't like the idea at all. I think the idea is dumb. I mean, for today it just doesn't work. It's, I don't know. We got electric lats.
Speaker 1:Now we do, but daylight savings is since electricity. Yeah, well, so that was never the issue.
Speaker 2:It's that old-fashioned to me. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm so sorry I've had this little cough going on. See, I can tell what time of the year it is. You can hear me starting to snuffle up here.
Speaker 2:Oh, because yeah. Seasonal allergies A few pollens maybe in the air out there. We do have like a little snow drop out in the yard that's blooming.
Speaker 1:And we have some daffodils that are starting to come up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the actual flowers are. You know the little they're getting ready to start. Yeah, pretty quick.
Speaker 1:Daffodils are very interesting flowers to me because they don't care that it's freezing temperatures, right. They don't care that we're having like wind storms, they do not care.
Speaker 2:No, they're just like it's time Okay let's go, let everybody up, yep.
Speaker 1:Here we go.
Speaker 2:They'll be poking up through the snow if they have to, that's correct?
Speaker 1:And another thing I have a cousin whose house in Pacific Palisades burned down whatever it was six weeks ago. That's awful. Well, yeah. And so I've been texting her. You know to check in periodically, yeah, her, you know to check in periodically, yeah. And the last time I did she said well, um, we went to the ruins today. Their entire home and property was a pile of ash.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she said we went to sort of dig through and see if there was anything. Um, sometimes people find a treasure or a memento or something. And she said and it was so weird, she said, coming up out of the concrete was this little daffodil oh, wow, wow. And she said it looked kind of droopy and she said it wasn't thriving, but there it was still forcing its way through the ash and whatever there was there.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's time.
Speaker 1:Through the concrete. It was time, so there.
Speaker 2:I like that. Take that.
Speaker 1:Take that as your lesson.
Speaker 2:I love daffodils too. They're gorgeous. Another one that pops up around here, and there's a lot of them. Out there now are the little tiny ones. Crocoi, yeah, crocuses, uh-huh, yeah. Out there now are the little tiny ones. Croci, yeah, crocuses, uh-huh yeah. Those are popping up all over the place too. If you look down the corner of Not Enough Acres Farms, right on the corner of the driveway there's like a little field of white and purple.
Speaker 1:A little patch of white and purple. It's beautiful. Yeah, Got to make sure to look at that tomorrow morning. I haven't looked at that so well lately has been, oh, just that kind of. I'm totally a horse in the stable Pounding my hooves and kicking to get out Because I am so ready for spring. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's time. It's time the daffodils know, it's time. It's time the daffodils know.
Speaker 1:It's beyond time.
Speaker 2:The grackles know, all of the birds are back. I haven't seen an osprey yet, but I'm expecting them pretty soon, if they're not here already. But I've seen everything else that starts to come through in the spring.
Speaker 1:So far, Well, it is time, and I'm already like, okay, and Michael can say this is true, because, look, if nothing else, I'm a shallow woman, but I've already picked out my summer colors. Yes, For clothing you have, and last summer and a lot of this fall, this past fall, if it wasn't white and or navy, I wasn't wearing it.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, white and navy. Yeah, white or navy. Wasn't wearing it. Right yeah, white and navy. Or yeah, white or navy, they were your thing.
Speaker 1:And I'm still mostly wearing white and navy because that's what I have. But now, for this year, I have such a feeling for sea foam. I don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm for sea foam.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 2:And I'm loving sea foam in Navy, oh yeah, okay, and a little white accent. It's great, possibly, and there is, and we are seeing some of that in the tennis world.
Speaker 1:That's right, we've been watching Indian Wells.
Speaker 2:Yep, the tennis season has restarted. It's cranked up, oh totally.
Speaker 1:We've got. Miami is starting either this weekend. Arizona is starting this week. Yep, it's all ramping up. We're on a long street runway to Paris. Yeah, we're on the road.
Speaker 2:And I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1:But Coco Goff, who is my tennis fashion idol last year she was all about the white in the Navy Is my tennis fashion idol. Last year she was all about the white and the navy, with little hints of neon, like acid green Right, which is one of my favorite hint colors. For those of you who don't know, you know from hint colors. Anyway, this year flipped on the television. Yes, there she is at Indian Wells Seafoam and navy Seafoam, navy with some white accents.
Speaker 2:How about that?
Speaker 1:One little white accent yeah. And I was like, oh my God, I'm looking online for a seafoam hoodie, and of course I all I needed to do was shop in my closet for two seconds. I suddenly remembered I just got one that's right, I just got one a week ago.
Speaker 2:You just got an old one, a brand new old one.
Speaker 1:A vintage, a new, old stock? Polo Seafoam hoodie With white Spell out 1992. And it is soft as butter.
Speaker 2:And it's really nice looking and so there you go.
Speaker 1:I'm already on the road, yeah you got it.
Speaker 2:I'm on the road. You've got it nailed. I mean you knew it was coming, anyway.
Speaker 1:So Well, somewhere in the back of my head, I knew something, I was already attracted to it, but I hadn't committed fully.
Speaker 2:Now we have the seafoam that's happening in the tennis thing, and then we have Danielle Collins. Yes, her whole team is orange, which is my accent color. Very cool Yep, and goes great with seafoam.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Opposite colors, perfect. So, yeah, no, the orange scarf will be very much in evidence this year. My beekeeper's outfit will be the wide-brimmed hat and my veil will be the orange scarf. I see Okay yep, so that's my beekeeper's outfit for this summer.
Speaker 2:So I'm ready to go and let's see what else. Oh, the other thing I noticed there fashion-wise happening today is one of the guys wearing Psycho Bunny.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what's his name? I don't know. Oh, yeah Well, psycho Bunny was showing in the past couple of years a sportswear line, and I don't mean sportswear one word. I mean clothes to wear when you're playing sports, and they do menswear 90% of their stuff and perfect. They got a guy and they threw a magenta psycho bunny shirt on him, yeah, and he looked great. Not magenta fuchsia.
Speaker 2:Was that Popperin or the? Other one I think it was Whoever it was. Giron was the other one, but I think it was Popperin.
Speaker 1:And he's American.
Speaker 2:I think Giron is, popperin is Russian.
Speaker 1:Aussie, oh, aussie, right, okay, yeah Well, rise, rise up, blight, Right Anyway.
Speaker 2:I love the Psycho Bunny. You know that I have a bunch of it. I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 1:It's quite a line, quite a line, quite a logo.
Speaker 2:And I like this sportswear thing. It looks good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, They've got like the whole kind of wicking, you know all that stuff. So there's the. We get absolutely nothing from Psycho Bunny for telling you that.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, you know, I just get to wear it and look cool.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:There's that, yeah, yeah, baby.
Speaker 2:And when I wear it I look cool.
Speaker 1:You do. Yeah, I mentioned a buck tea last week and I'm going to mention it again called Isola by Allegra Goodman, and I'm not sure what I said, except maybe here's what I know so far. Well, I finished it and I've got to say that, on the whole, I highly recommend it. On the whole, Not everything about it is the perfect book, but— Go into it knowing which I didn't that this is historical fiction. This is based on an actual story. This is a thing that happened Right, and it's outrageous.
Speaker 2:In the 16th century.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah. So by all means, check out this book, because a story like this that is committed to paper elsewhere you know, that's in the historical record. Wow, that's in the historical record. Wow. This is like a very rare, a very rare story, particularly about a woman other than one of Henry VIII's wives or Queen Elizabeth. There's so much historical fiction from that time about men, about kings, about rulers, but this is about a French woman who was how do I put this? A relatively simple woman. She wasn't a ruler, she wasn't a queen, she wasn't a. She'd be considered upper middle class. It's really hard to compare then to now, but read the damn book Isola I-S-O-L-A, allegra Goodman, allegra Goodman, allegra Goodman.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now I have a second book to recommend to you and this recommendation comes from one of my best writer friends. She's a writer for the New York Times. She's a writer for the New York Times and it's called Paper of Wreckage, as in shipwreck, and it is nonfiction and it is about media and it's print media and what has happened to print media Also, what print media has done. It's sort of the good, the bad, the ugly, the disappearing. And it's Susan Malachy and I don't remember his first name, maybe it's well, I don't remember his first name, maybe it well, I don't know. It's Mr DiGiacomo. It's by those two writers and highly recommend, highly, highly. You know what, michael? What? It's someone's birthday, it is Uh-huh, whose?
Speaker 3:birthday, is it?
Speaker 1:Coming right up. Whose birthday is it coming up? Well, the name begins with an A.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's not Ann. No, is it Allison?
Speaker 1:No, oh, but I have to remember to speak to Allison. Okay, mention to Allison, something All right, but the birthday and the second name begins with a, b, a, b, yep.
Speaker 2:Yep Artemis Buffington. Oh my goodness, oh well, how could I have forgotten that?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, and I'm sure we'll be hearing from Artemis Buffington.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, Asking. I'll be called out on that one.
Speaker 1:Who the heck else do you know? That's right, okay, anyway, happy birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, happy birthday.
Speaker 1:I wanted to play a song with the name Artemis in it, if anyone knows that song.
Speaker 2:Not even the guy who does all the birthday names has a song no, artemis, no, no.
Speaker 1:So let me know. Let me know if you've got that song. Happy birthday, Artemis. We love you. We hope all is well with you and that you had a great time at the Shire. I'm actually dying to hear about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we'll— A very weird coincidence, because I saw a thing about a. I saw a thing about a, uh about a hotel, uh situation that is in Springfield, massachusetts, that is all set up like a, a Hobbit village, all the rooms are set up like that and everything, and I posted it on our, on our uh Facebook page. And then Artemis came back saying hey, I was at this place yesterday and it's what? Was it Ecuador or Costa Rica or something like?
Speaker 1:that the Shire.
Speaker 2:But she was in the same kind of place, thousands and thousands of miles away Just the day before the Shire Hotel.
Speaker 1:They're popping up everywhere now they're popping up everywhere now. They're popping up everywhere, and can you describe what they are?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, if you've seen the Lord of the Rings movies, they don't have square doors, for one thing. They're all big round doors. Everything's rounded and curved. There are no you know no sharp angles to anything, and they're usually and they're kind of dark and they're built into the side of a hill or something, quite often, At least in the movie.
Speaker 1:And the ceilings are kind of low.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, because they're short anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the rooms are round.
Speaker 2:Are the beds round? Most things are. Yeah, I don't think the beds would be—I don't think we saw much of a bed in the film, but I would assume they're not round. I would assume they're not rectangular these hotels and resorts.
Speaker 1:I don't know who started this, who thought of it, but they're geniuses, I mean. I don't know. This will make money for what? A couple years, a few years, at some point, this is not going to be anywhere that anyone wants to stay the place that was built for the creation of the film in New.
Speaker 2:Zealand still draws bazillions of visitors every year I get that, yeah, that's different. It's just part of it. Just part of it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Where the original film was made, I'd say that's a little more than part of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because when the original film was made, I'd say that's a little more than part of it, but they can't stay there. That's the thing. They can't stay overnight there. It's not a hotel or anything.
Speaker 1:Okay, I mean. So here's the thing I can imagine going to and I've gone to Versailles. I can imagine going to Buckingham Palace. I can imagine going to all sorts of extraordinary places on the planet that I've been lucky enough to visit Okay, the Uffizi Extraordinary places. I don't want to go to Vegas and stay at the Bellagio.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you understand what I'm saying. Sure, equate. I don't equate those two things like the original things that were built to shoot the movie with a hotel you know called the Shire, I don't know, I don't see where.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it is. It is the, the rabid nature of these fans who will go thousands and thousands of miles out of the way just to see a place you know, years and years after the movie's been long gone. I mean, it's been out of theaters for 20 years, almost no.
Speaker 2:I know, but these are the people that are going to the cons and the, and they're also the people that are going to these hotels in droves, right, and I'm just saying, and I'm saying it's been going on for this long, it's going to continue for a lot longer.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't feel it Like. First of all, I'd love to know what it costs to spend a night in the ring suite, or I don't know what's the in the Lord suite? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't understand the feasibility of the hotel, of it all. Now, I do think there should be a Hobbit theme park.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That would make more sense to me, where you could go for a day and pay your admission and, you know, be a hobbit for a day or a week with your children and be all hobbity.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But I don't see checking in for two nights, somehow. I don't know A destination hotel. I don't know what do I know Nothing, nothing. Don't know A destination hotel. I don't know what. Do I know Nothing, nothing about this topic.
Speaker 2:Well see, your destinations are a bit more elevated.
Speaker 1:They are yeah.
Speaker 2:Like Versailles. I mean these places that you've been to. You know you're not going to a place because you're a fan of a movie that this place was in. That's just not what you do. You're going to a place because it's an awesome place all on its own. That's what I'm saying okay so so yeah, of course you're not going to want to go to this place. It's not your thing. Okay, but for a lot of other people. It is definitely their thing, All right.
Speaker 1:Well, I saw a film, I saw a documentary and I recommend this documentary. It's on Netflix and it's called Will and Harper and it is Will Ferrell and his friend Harper Steele. And Harper Steele transitioned from man to woman, starting seven years ago and Harper is now 61. So the entire story, her story and her journey, her journey Now. She was when she was in her male incarnation, in her male body. She was, he was. I never know how to do that. Anyway, harper, who was known as Andrew Steele, was a to Saturday Night Live and was the head writer there for a long time, which is where Will and he— that's right where he and Will Ferrell became close friends and remained close friends all these many years after SNL that was.
Speaker 1:You know, andrew Steele loved the grubby kind of down and dirty side of things, which I totally understand. I love a greasy spoon, love it. I love a diner, you know, by the side of the road, that kind of thing, and a dive bar, darts and pool and all that stuff. Now, as a woman and as a trans woman and as in her words, in Harper's words, someone who doesn't, a trans person, who doesn't quote pass because her voice is still the voice of a man. So people who meet Harper Steele pretty much immediately think they're speaking to a trans person or, in their minds, a crossdresser.
Speaker 1:Tough time and is terrified of going into the kinds of places that is andrew, he used to frequent all the time, his favorite places, right, right, um, and also sports, sports games. So anyhow will and Anyhow Will and Harper get in a car and drive across country and they go through and to a lot of places where— Harper does not feel comfortable going to any longer. So you know establishments, you know where you've got a bunch of tatted up guys in the back room playing darts and playing pool and drinking natty beer, right. So it's a really extraordinary film about I'm going to say, love. It really is about the relationship between Will and Harper, and what we see in particular is how loving Will Ferrell is Incredibly loving and tender and understanding and courageous in his own right. Yeah, I mean, harper's story is extraordinary and I can't imagine it.
Speaker 1:Will Ferrell is someone that we all know because television, because movies, because all that stuff An incredibly famous celebrity who we think kindly of. But to see him in these vulnerable situations and standing up for is curious about transgender people and think about what it would be like to wake up when you're 54 years old and say, all right, I'm coming out. Not only am I coming out, it has nothing to do with sexuality, it's not. Oh, I'm gay, I'm coming out. It's I'm trans and I'm coming out. I'm in the wrong body. Yeah, and, trust me, no one wants that. Nobody wants it. So it's definitely great for all of us to learn about, to learn more about Will and Harper on Netflix. Check it out, all right. Well, netflix brings me to something that I'm not sure how to describe yeah, we got to get there, don't we?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we should Oof. Two of my girlfriends have asked me this question and the question is do you watch Love is Blind? And my response to that is what's that? Yeah, what the hell is that? And they tell me. And I say hell to the no, never, ever, nor will I ever. It sounds so dumb and, for those of you who may not know, it's a show on Netflix and I don't know if they start out with 20 people maybe 10 women, 10 men. Everyone is straight, or at least has said they are straight to the producers.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And they go on dates. I don't know how to describe it. They're in these things they call pods. It's basically you have two long hallways and there are ten doors on each hallway that lead to a little room. It's got a couch and a chair and a coffee table yeah, like a shire, a room with a shire, and there's a wall between Then there's this wall and on the other side, so one side is the women and on the other side are the men, and these are two separate hallways that go off in different directions. And then you know, so you go in, you have dates with these different people and your dates are speaking to each other Through the wall, through this partition Right you never see one another.
Speaker 2:You cannot to each other. Through the wall, through this partition Right, you never see one another. You cannot see each other.
Speaker 1:Right, so you can speak and listen, and it's completely nuts. Now I started watching, I finally said this, my friend Sean, finally, she was like, no, you have to, you have to, you have to, alright. I said alright, alright, alright, cause we have a lot of the same guilty pleasures in other areas. Yeah, and I said, all right, maybe she's on to something here. And I watched season one, episode one. I think I got maybe 15 minutes in and I shut off the television. I heard you hollering at it from another room Like what the hell is this? And I wrote to her and I texted her and I said, sean, this is.
Speaker 1:I hate every single person on this show. I want nothing to do with this show. This is just the worst pile of poop I have ever experienced. And she said, no, no, ann, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me. Season three, just watch season three. There's someone on it you're going to really like because she's Israeli. So that will interest you, if nothing else. Yeah, all right. So I went to season three and I lived through the first few episodes because I'm waiting for the situation with this Israeli woman and, of course, after three episodes, I start to become you know I start to like learn about these other people and then see what's happening.
Speaker 2:It is so cuckoo bananas, I don't even so okay, so let's so they go through these dates Right when they can't see each other, correct, but there comes a point to where they actually do get to see each other no, okay.
Speaker 1:There comes a point when, if they have fallen in love, which is the goal- Right. You know by speaking.
Speaker 2:You know, by speaking Right.
Speaker 1:Without seeing the other person, just from listening to their stories and speaking to them. Now, let me just tell you there's no gender fluidity here. This is a cisgender affirming binary. Everything as you can get, um, so what? What can happen is the man can literally get down on one knee in front of the partition, the wall and say you know, anne Hall, will you marry me? Mm-hmm, and she either says yes or no. Now, if it's yes, they are engaged.
Speaker 2:They're engaged and they haven't seen each other yet.
Speaker 1:They've never seen each other, so they run back to their little sections the boys' section or the girls' section and Twitter and tweeter.
Speaker 2:And talk or chat all about it.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're engaged, we're engaged.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Anne and Michael are engaged, and then Michael is given an engagement ring. He's had an opportunity to pick out from a variety of styles I see yes, and then the two get all dressed up and stand in front of these partitions and then they open.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And there they are, in front of each other, engaged, seeing each other for the first time. And the man puts the engagement ring on the woman's finger Right and they celebrate, they do the happy dance. Right, and they celebrate, they do the happy dance. Okay, then they go on. I'm telling you everything, people, if you don't want this disgusting garbage spoiled, this isn't the time. Skip season three.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's like eight seasons or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're all the same. It's just plug in different people Anyhow. So then they're engaged, they're all happy. Then they go on vacation for a week. They take everyone to a resort, I don't know, somewhere in California, all of the people who have said yes to each other.
Speaker 2:Yes, all right.
Speaker 1:And some really interesting stuff happens on this particular thing, where you know there's a lot of drinking involved, there are some loose lips and there's a couple of these like hey, babe, you know you are actually my number one pick, not Ann, right? Yeah, so drama, drama, drama, but ultimately you end up with weddings.
Speaker 2:Right, and this was part of what I saw, yeah, so there were—. These are lovely affairs.
Speaker 1:And you got the whole deal these weddings?
Speaker 2:yeah, you got the families meeting each other.
Speaker 1:Right, you've got the fiancés introducing their partners to their family, all that. Asking all the questions and then you've got planning the wedding. So the women all go to this bridal. I don't know some bridal shop Boot camp Yep. And they get fitted for their dresses and their veils, and it's the whole freaking deal, right? Yeah, it's the whole freaking deal, right, yeah. And then they are taken to a wedding palace that looks like a plantation, quite frankly.
Speaker 2:But anyway, I'm sure it's Chanel Plantation.
Speaker 1:Well, it's in California. Oh okay, all right, hard to say, but regardless. And so here's what happens they have all their families and friends. You've got the bride side, you've got the groom side, the officiant, the whatever. The whole thing is all set up. The groom comes down, the aisle stands and you've got the procession of whatever it is Right Bridesmaids. And then here comes the bride and they get to the altar, they say their vows, All of this is all sounding pretty typical, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until this part, until this part. Oh yeah, yeah, until this part, until this part, until they get to the altar, they say their vows and then the officiant says do you, michael, take Anne to be your wedded wife, right, your wedded wife Right? And at that time the groom says I do or I do not, and the same thing.
Speaker 2:Then they go back and ask the woman Right, Because the groom may say yes, I do. Right Then they ask the bride and she may say I do not yeah well in this poop show.
Speaker 1:Uh, I gotta say that the I do nots and I didn't know that was coming. I thought, oh, so they're going to get married.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did too. She didn't really let on.
Speaker 1:Then in five weeks we'll hear about their divorce.
Speaker 2:But no, her do not was excoriating.
Speaker 1:Oh well, that one do not.
Speaker 2:And he deserved it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there was this guy who was like. You know, I really wanted someone that looks like you talking to someone else's fiance, right, but you know she was my oh please, just disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a pig.
Speaker 1:Well, he got, as Michael said, excoriated at the altar in a beautifully— beautifully conveyed, extemporaneous speech.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she really. I mean, she knew you could tell she wasn't like trying to do something. She memorized it was just coming out of her, but it was very to the point and she had points Uh-huh Like this point, this point, this point, this point, this point and that point, and that's why, and if you think I would ever marry someone as horrible anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:And oh, he deserved it oh he deserved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was really something.
Speaker 1:Long story, short, longer actually. Long story, short, longer actually. The Israeli woman ended up engaged to. I call him the cowboy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cowboy.
Speaker 1:He was wearing a cowboy hat. He's from? Where is he from?
Speaker 2:Iowa, iowa yeah.
Speaker 1:Where's he from? Iowa, yeah, and he's got a little bit of a twang, but just like the sweetest most. I don't know how to explain it, just he seemed like one of the kindest, most gentle men and he had one of the bumpier meet the parents moments of the whole bunch.
Speaker 1:Let me just tell you something. Men and women out there and I've been there you do not want to be that fiance or I should say, because it wouldn't happen that it was fiancé you don't want to be that potential fiancé Walking into a room full of Israelis that you've never met. Yeah, the brothers, sisters, parents, whatever.
Speaker 2:All the men standing there, any aunt, aunt, any uncle, with their arms crossed just sitting there like, yeah right, let's see how you're gonna screw this up loser. It was not easy for this guy oh my god, but he did it really well he was so just, honest and plain with them.
Speaker 1:You know he didn't try to be anything. He wasn't. He didn't try to say things to please them. Right, no, he was honest, and he was himself you know. And he said you know, look, I'm not going to say I know damn things, no, I didn't say that. But I'm not going to say I know anything about you know Israelis or Jewish people or any of this. Yeah, I am madly in love with your daughter.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm going to tell you, and madly in love with your daughter.
Speaker 1:that's what I'm gonna tell you exactly in love with me and I am committed to her. 100 for every day. Of the rest, in my opinion, and way out, he ran circles about every other man on the show. Yeah, and.
Speaker 2:Well, and they both ended up saying yes, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:And PS. I found out yesterday that they already had their first baby.
Speaker 2:Oh, they did.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, how sweet so that, so far anyway turning out real good. Uh, well, you see, that's good, and I mean, you don't expect any of this stuff to turn out, you know to turn into anything that's gonna last at all well, like I was saying, I was expecting, and in three weeks, right, we're not gonna show you this, but yeah, you know, when the reunion shows up, they're all they're not gonna be sitting next to each other. They'll be sitting next to people you've never seen before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they will have made their swaps right exactly so.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's. You know the whole deal, and if you choose to watch it, you have my blessings, my congratulations, my condolences. I absolutely will never watch another episode again.
Speaker 1:I watched 90% of season three yeah uh, because there was a point at which my friend sean said didn't you see what happened? Didn't you see what happened? I was like, no, I'm watching as fast as I can. I mean, what are you, are you? She's like you're watching all of it. Why don't you fast forward? Oh my gosh. Well, there we go. This song is Holocene by Bon Iver, and it's a beautiful song this week. I'd like everyone to please light a candle. Put on a light for Carl Dean. Carl Dean passed away this week and he was Dolly Parton's husband for more than 60 years. They had an extraordinary relationship, an extraordinary life together, and it was always, and still is, the subject of a lot of questioning and debate, because he refused to ever be in public, so we never saw him, but he was the partner and the rock for one of the greatest women in this country's culture. And so I say for Carl Dean, please put a light on.
Speaker 3:I can see Third Lake. It burns away the whole way. It's where we had To celebrate ¶, ¶, ¶ ¶, and I'll let you be here forever. Nothing, even on the bed. I lost the clue. So you're nothing and it's enough for me. And I want to say it's enough for me. And once I knew I was not magnificent, home, far from the highway, shake your fake and stick with the bad, stick with the band, and I can see the love, love, love.
